Anyone think heartbleed is the reason for 4.4.3 delay? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This update is becoming like the Sasquatch. Plenty of rumors, but nothing for months. Just around the time the update was first rumored, heartbleed was found, and this update has gone past all rumored dates which is rare. What do you think?
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nikeman513 said:
This update is becoming like the Sasquatch. Plenty of rumors, but nothing for months. Just around the time the update was first rumored, heartbleed was found, and this update has gone past all rumored dates which is rare. What do you think?
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Nope. It's easy enough for them to fix.

4.4.2 was not affected by heartbleed. And Sprint announced the release date of 4.4.3 after heartbleed was announced publicly. So, no, I don't think it has anything to do with it. For all we know, 4.4.3 is right on schedule.

nikeman513 said:
This update is becoming like the Sasquatch. Plenty of rumors, but nothing for months.. ..and this update has gone past all rumored dates which is rare.
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just like every other update. and it going past all rumored dates.. again, just like every other update. rumors are rumors, nothing else. they arent based on anything factual, just what people THINK will happen. only google knows when the update will come, no one else.

Should Be FedEx to XDA soon...

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Should Be FedEx to XDA soon...
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I prefer amazon drone.
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google updated openssl on the 9th -
http://http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/04/google-services-updated-to-address.html
yet again, -
"Android
All versions of Android are immune to CVE-2014-0160 (with the limited exception of Android 4.1.1; patching information for Android 4.1.1 is being distributed to Android partners)."
android is, linux at it's *heart* afterall, lol

I dont think we will see 4.4.3 soon...i think they release it close to their I/O and then wait for 4.5/5.0 version!!!

lol.. that's my prediction also..
way too much time has passed for a measly 4.4.3 bump, to think or expect that this far in the timeline, is sleeping on google's development team;
i think their working in over drive, to bring a 4.5 to fruition for the nexus 5, not to supersede a 5.0 i/o, & nexus 6,
THEN bring the 5.0 update to the nexus 5 afterwards..

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When will Android 3.0 get released?

When will it get released? I have read everywhere that Google is focusing the most on the UI and im eager as hell to see it.
im also waiting to see the next android version
it might be 2.3 tho
3.0 might be released next year id say
Froyo didn't come out long ago. So i don't tnink they will bring another one out this early
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As far as I know Google will release the new version of Android OS some time in the mid this month.
retskrad said:
When will it get released? I have read everywhere that Google is focusing the most on the UI and im eager as hell to see it.
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Welcome to XDA! Nothing official on a date but maybe by the end of Oct.
What device are you using and planning to upgrade?
i personally wont expect it for months yet. even more so to be ported to existing devices.
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i personally wont expect it for months yet. even more so to be ported to existing devices.
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Froyo was running / ported on the motorola droid within a week of the Google I/O announcement. The nexus one had it officially released 24 hours or so after the announcement.
Any build of 3.0 will get ported to most major phones (well the phones that aren't locked down, thanks so much moto droid 2 / X and the new HTC g2) in less then a week from any build released.
I thought the rumoured date was Nov. 11th or something like that
No source because i forget where i got that one from
This might shed some light
http://www.miui.com/thread-857-1-1.html
Translate it, enjoy.

New device for each android version?

Seems like this article is saying there will be a new google device with each android release. Honestly this frustrates me.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...h-new-Ice-Cream-Android-operating-system.html
Edit: I could have sworn I posted this in the general section. Please move if needed.
lovely... Nexus 3 here we go...
NicholasQ said:
Seems like this article is saying there will be a new google device with each android release. Honestly this frustrates me.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...h-new-Ice-Cream-Android-operating-system.html
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Actually this makes sense. I read another article recently that made it a good case for Honeycomb coming to phones. When the N1 launched, it launched with 2.1 then was the first to get 2.2. We launched with 2.3 and will most likely be the first to get 2.4 so when the updates after that come around it will be about a year from the launch of our phone so it'll be about time for a new Nexus.
kenvan19 said:
Actually this makes sense. I read another article recently that made it a good case for Honeycomb coming to phones. When the N1 launched, it launched with 2.1 then was the first to get 2.2. We launched with 2.3 and will most likely be the first to get 2.4 so when the updates after that come around it will be about a year from the launch of our phone so it'll be about time for a new Nexus.
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You think it will be a year? I'm not so sure though. What exactly is 2.4? Ice cream? Because this article says there will be a new device with ice cream. I also read somewhere that ice cream is projected for this summer. So that would mean a new "nexus" this summer.....?
They haven't even ironed out the bugs with gingerbread and they are planning to release something new with 2.4? I love this phone but its pretty galling that here its 2 months after release and we still don't have browser or reboot prob fixed.
On a side note, I'm thinking that it might be an LG phone if Google is really doing the round robin thing with nexus manufacturers. I doubt nexus will be a Motorola phone until they ditch that locked bootloader.
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Are the "Nexus" brand phones always to be first with new updates ?

I always thought that the "nexus" brand phones, were designed to be the first Android phones to receive the big updates from Google ? But that doesn't seem to be true.
I am not too confident that the Nexus-S will be first in line to get the next big OS update. I see them coming out with a Nexus-3.0 being the first phone running "ice Cream" then later on down the road the Nexus-S will get that update, and then possibly the Nexus-One.
I thought Google was going to do it differently ? If there is a "nexus" brand phone, it should get the newest OS right away, that was the whole point of the phone. But the Nexus-S came out with 2.3, and all the Nexus-One owners just kept waiting and waiting, for a few months. That was not cool. I don't remember, but was the Nexus-One the first phone to get 2.2 Froyo before any other phone ?
The Nexus One didn't get the update until some of the major bugs we're ironed out. The Nexus One got Froyo first. The Nexus phones will always get the first updates but they may not get them at the same time. We don't know anything about the next Nexus but the other Nexus' will get whatever OS it comes with. Don't be so paranoid.
Yes, the nexus s and nexus one are the only phones that have 2.3 currently
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Darrien13 said:
Yes, the nexus s and nexus one are the only phones that have 2.3 currently
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I know thanks. But my point is on how long it took for Nexus-One to get 2.3, I was under the impression the "nexus" brand phones are the first to get the newest releases, sure it was the "first" technically besides the Nexus-S, but it took a long time, well over 2 months. I would have expected Google to test 2.3 on both Nexus devices and release at the same time, or at least fairly close, like a week or so.
So is this the pattern ? When there is a major new Android OS release, a new "nexus" phone will come out first with it, then the old Nexus phones get it trickled down to it at some later date, and all other phones months after that ? So for example, if the next major release is "Ice cream" do NOT expect the Nexus-S to get it right away, I would expect it first on a brand new Nexus-3.0 phone ? Then a month or two later the older Nexus phones will finally get it ?
We have no idea what will happen with the new Nexus phone. We don't know what version of Android it will run. We don't know when it will be released. We don't know when the other Nexus phones will get its version of Android. Extrapolating a pattern from a single point of reference is impossible (There are two Nexus phone, but only one release of an OS while there was a previous Nexus).
From what I have read on Android sites, there will be a Nexus-3.0 built by HTC or possibly Motorola for once, and released second half of 2011, most likely end of the year, and it is supposed to ship with "ice cream", the first ever Android phone with that OS.
But there is a rumor, strongly typed word "RUMOR", that the new HTC-Pyramid coming to T-Mobile this Spring, could be the next Google phone by HTC, and might be the Nexus-2.4 release.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-pyramid-shows-online-some-early-renders
Zorachus said:
From what I have read on Android sites, there will be a Nexus-3.0 built by HTC or possibly Motorola for once, and released second half of 2011, most likely end of the year, and it is supposed to ship with "ice cream", the first ever Android phone with that OS.
But there is a rumor, strongly typed word "RUMOR", that the new HTC-Pyramid coming to T-Mobile this Spring, could be the next Google phone by HTC, and might be the Nexus-2.4 release.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-pyramid-shows-online-some-early-renders
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I've read all of those articles about the Pyramid and I don't believe them. 2.4 is still Gingerbread and will come to the Nexus S first. 3.0 is already out. Its called Honeycomb. We don't know anything about the Android iteration following it. It would make sense for the next Nexus phone to come out around the end of 2011, beginning of 2012 but that's all we can say for sure.
Zorachus said:
I know thanks. But my point is on how long it took for Nexus-One to get 2.3, I was under the impression the "nexus" brand phones are the first to get the newest releases, sure it was the "first" technically besides the Nexus-S, but it took a long time, well over 2 months. I would have expected Google to test 2.3 on both Nexus devices and release at the same time, or at least fairly close, like a week or so.
So is this the pattern ? When there is a major new Android OS release, a new "nexus" phone will come out first with it, then the old Nexus phones get it trickled down to it at some later date, and all other phones months after that ? So for example, if the next major release is "Ice cream" do NOT expect the Nexus-S to get it right away, I would expect it first on a brand new Nexus-3.0 phone ? Then a month or two later the older Nexus phones will finally get it ?
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Does it matter how long it takes? It got the 2.3 update and is one of the first devices with it. That's what should matter. People that are on the fritz about this is worrying too much.
Also, why are people asking "will this be the pattern for future Nexus devices?" The answer is obvious. No one knows until more Nexus devices are out.
the nexus one took a while, which sucked, but they had some delays with bugs and testing. the bottom line is, you will br worse off with any other android phone. so really you have no choice but to go with the nexus phones if you want the first updates. no manufacturer will ever be faster than google to update their device.
sometimes crap happens and they hit delays. software is a hard thing to get perfect. and hell 2.3 STILL has issues.
Thank God for the nexus is perfect for my inpatient self... cant wait for the next update already
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Ice Cream Sandwich launching Oct 12th

http://9to5google.com/2011/10/06/confirmed-ice-cream-sandwich-launching-october-12th/
So says 9to5Google via a Youtube leak.
I wonder if this means it'll start pushing out to NS owners during that date...
i hope :crossesfingers:
onthecouchagain said:
http://9to5google.com/2011/10/06/confirmed-ice-cream-sandwich-launching-october-12th/
So says 9to5Google via a Youtube leak.
I wonder if this means it'll start pushing out to NS owners during that date...
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Highly unlikely.
There isn't a lot of history here, but for what it's worth: The Nexus S was announced on Dec 6th running Gingerbread. The SDK was available on Dec 6th. The Nexus S became available in the US on Dec 16th. Gingerbread started being pushed into AOSP on Dec 17th. The Nexus One didn't get the OTA to Gingerbread until Feb. Apparently the OTA was rather buggy from the few threads I read (I had sold my N1 in Dec). Maybe this was the cause of the delay.
Froyo was announced May 20th, the SDK was available on May 20th. Froyo OTA'd to the Nexus One on June 23rd (that felt like a LOOONG wait) and subsequently pushed into AOSP.
We'll see what the timetables are this time around, but I wouldn't expect it for several weeks at the earliest. After the "official" unveiling of ICS if it's anything like past announcements you'll see the SDK/NDK first, followed by the push into AOSP in a few weeks, then some time after that you'll start to see OTA's to older.
Google may change it up this time and OTA to the Nexus S sooner, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
we wont get icecream till after prime release
My guess would be a month or two after
I hope Google surprises us all with OTAs to many devices concurrently. But that is even more unlikely than us getting in a few weeks.
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im pretty sure google wants the prime owners to enjoy ics first. its a selling point right now.
on a side note, (i don't remember the history) were there any custom roms running froyo or gb before the official OTA was sent out?
If only they'd release ICS for Nexus S just to sorta promote it lol
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krohnjw said:
Highly unlikely.
There isn't a lot of history here, but for what it's worth: The Nexus S was announced on Dec 6th running Gingerbread. The SDK was available on Dec 6th. The Nexus S became available in the US on Dec 16th. Gingerbread started being pushed into AOSP on Dec 17th. The Nexus One didn't get the OTA to Gingerbread until Feb. Apparently the OTA was rather buggy from the few threads I read (I had sold my N1 in Dec). Maybe this was the cause of the delay.
Froyo was announced May 20th, the SDK was available on May 20th. Froyo OTA'd to the Nexus One on June 23rd (that felt like a LOOONG wait) and subsequently pushed into AOSP.
We'll see what the timetables are this time around, but I wouldn't expect it for several weeks at the earliest. After the "official" unveiling of ICS if it's anything like past announcements you'll see the SDK/NDK first, followed by the push into AOSP in a few weeks, then some time after that you'll start to see OTA's to older.
Google may change it up this time and OTA to the Nexus S sooner, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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THIS!
SDK *might* come out on the 12th, but not ICS itself.
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falconrulz said:
If only they'd release ICS for Nexus S just to sorta promote it lol
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Why would they give it to another device when the Prime is supposed to be the flagship ICS device?
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p00kienrayray said:
im pretty sure google wants the prime owners to enjoy ics first. its a selling point right now.
on a side note, (i don't remember the history) were there any custom roms running froyo or gb before the official OTA was sent out?
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definitely not GB. not sure about froyo since I had a G1 still before getting my Nexus S
Well the Nexus Prime just got postponed along with ICS
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...y-nexus/&category=classic&icid=eng_latest_art
Here is a direct walk through link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvsXyeY0HVE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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charlieb620 said:
Well the Nexus Prime just got postponed along with ICS
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...y-nexus/&category=classic&icid=eng_latest_art
Here is a direct walk through link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvsXyeY0HVE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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You understand they postponed the product announcement. I doubt they are delaying the launch of things (especially on the hardware side).
"Samsung and Google decide to postpone the new product announcement at CTIA Fall. We agree that it is just not the right time to announce a new product. New date and venue will be shortly announced."
The delay sucks.
Here are leaked photos and videos of the Prime running ICS: http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/samsung-galaxy-nexus-spotted-in-the-wild-video/
Why the heck was this thread moved?
Ice Cream Sandwich relates to Nexus S, even if there is conversation about Nexus Prime thrown in.
The heck?
Yeah, they aren't delaying any launch. In fact, they will probably just move the announcement to later in the week. It will not affect any dates other than maybe they move the SDK release back two or three days.
Woohoo!
Bring it on!
I hear it's in 29th October
I wish ICS on my Captivate
Gah, first no SGSII on Verizon, now a delay in the announcement for ICS and the Prime? God, why are you punishing me!?
Does this mean that 3.0 + is going to be available for mobiles also ?
Time to wait and see.
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Time to wait and see.
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Let's hope it will be worth waiting ...

[Q] With ICS OTA will we loose everything?

Hi all,
After ICS OTA upgrade, will I have to reconfigure and reinstall all the apps?? Also, what about the media data?
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It dosen't matter. Just backup with Titanium Backup and restore when it comes.
ElMango said:
Hi all,
After ICS OTA upgrade, will I have to reconfigure and reinstall all the apps?? Also, what about the media data?
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You'll want to wait for a rooted version of the OTA anyway. It'll be out hours after the source is released. Then you can just use your favorite backup app to get your stuff back.
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Do we know approximately when the ICS is set to come. Since I got the 3D I haven't really kept up with Nexus news but I'm looking to come back to the flagship.
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Samfirmware stated on twitter two days ago that it was close.
Twitter.com/samfirmware
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Don't see why it would take Google sooooo long to release the OTA ? I mean, The community has had it built for Weeks. I guess I'm just a bit too impatient and don't really feel like rooting my phone.
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I'm the same. I've rooted by all the ICS ROM's still have bugs. I'd already have a Galaxy Nexus if they did not delay and delay then have volume bugs! If they released all the drivers from day one, we'd have a million decent custom ROM's...
the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark. say what you will about apple but when an update comes out all compatible devices receive the update that day. obviously im not saying every android should get this update in a timely manner, but a phone by google made for this situation certainly should
I have a question when they said that nexus s should receive ice cream sandwich within " weeks" after galaxy nexus release. Do you guys think the clock has started or are did they mean release in the united states?
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fightingroost12 said:
the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark.
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Yeah, you may want to recall how us Nexus One users were treated with Gingerbread when the NS came out. ICS was probably developed primarily on the GN, so NS development slips on the totem pole. At least you are getting official ICS...
Rod3 said:
Yeah, you may want to recall how us Nexus One users were treated with Gingerbread when the NS came out. ICS was probably developed primarily on the GN, so NS development slips on the totem pole. At least you are getting official ICS...
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yea your right, im very happy just to be on gingerbread (anyone with an x10 or intercept will agree with me) and i wouldnt even mind waiting for the update, its mostly the lack of any information from google thats killing me
hamiltus said:
Don't see why it would take Google sooooo long to release the OTA ? I mean, The community has had it built for Weeks. I guess I'm just a bit too impatient and don't really feel like rooting my phone.
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Because unlike the Community, Google has certain standards it must meet before releasing an OTA. I mean no respect towards the community but no company could ever release partially working builds.
fightingroost12 said:
the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark. say what you will about apple but when an update comes out all compatible devices receive the update that day. obviously im not saying every android should get this update in a timely manner, but a phone by google made for this situation certainly should
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The Nexus S will get a ICS update LOOONNNGGGG before any other phone will and ICS was built for the Galaxy Nexus so THAT was the first and easiest to develop for. The Nexus S is next.
I don't really care the Nexus S gets the update before other phones, I just want it asap.
I'd gladly have every compatible phone receive ICS tomorrow as long as I got it on my NS.
And, much as I don't like it; the Apple comparisons are true. Apple do release new OS available for everyone to download on the same day their new device featuring that OS is launched.
People say that it would be ridiculous to expect updates until the GN has been out a while, but why? Google should have made the next update available on the day they announced ICS.
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I don't really care the Nexus S gets the update before other phones, I just want it asap.
I'd gladly have every compatible phone receive ICS tomorrow as long as I got it on my NS.
And, much as I don't like it; the Apple comparisons are true. Apple do release new OS available for everyone to download on the same day their new device featuring that OS is launched.
People say that it would be ridiculous to expect updates until the GN has been out a while, but why? Google should have made the next update available on the day they announced ICS.
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Apple also restricts new features to older phones to encourage people to upgrade. Just look at Siri as a fine example, it's *only* available on the 4s even though it's been proven that it will run fine on the 4. Similar constraints can be found with each model upgrade.
When ICS comes out for the nexus S, it will be fully functional with no neutering of any feature. so how does one "encourage" people to upgrade? you delay the update to crank in some early sales.
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Apple also restricts new features to older phones to encourage people to upgrade. Just look at Siri as a fine example, it's *only* available on the 4s even though it's been proven that it will run fine on the 4. Similar constraints can be found with each model upgrade.
When ICS comes out for the nexus S, it will be fully functional with no neutering of any feature. so how does one "encourage" people to upgrade? you delay the update to crank in some early sales.
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all because thats true it doesnt make the other point invalid. When a new iphone comes out, all iphones (and ipod touches mind you) get the update that day.
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all because thats true it doesnt make the other point invalid. When a new iphone comes out, all iphones (and ipod touches mind you) get the update that day.
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Does the iPod second generation have IOS 5? What about the original iPhone?
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Matridom said:
Does the iPod second generation have IOS 5? What about the original iPhone?
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is the nexus one getting ICS? how about the G1?
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is the nexus one getting ICS? how about the G1?
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Point, but this is due to hardware limitations. Siri for example will run fine on older devices. also if I know the Xda, there will be a ROM available
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Point, but this is due to hardware limitations. Siri for example will run fine on older devices. also if I know the Xda, there will be a ROM available
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of course there will be, there already are roms available now for the g1. the original iphone obviously has the same problem the g1 has, hardware limitations. When 4.0 came out the iphone 3gs was laggy and almost unusable until apple released a second update to fix the mess. But were losing sight of the point, when an OS is released by apple all phones (fine all compatible phones) get it that day. Sure it doesnt have all the features as the newest iphones, and by not all the features i mean ONE feature as in siri, but they get the update at least. What have we received since the galaxy nexus was released? And i honestly dont even care enough to keep talking about it, but when ever people hear about apple they always have to but in with "YEA BUT APPLE SUCKS CAUSE ____" which isnt the point, i was making a comparison.
like i said before all because one statement is true, it doesnt make the other statement false.

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