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Who cares about 2.2 what about 2.3?

Am I the only one that worries more about 2.3 than 2.2? Samsung is literally the last top of the line phone to get 2.2....ridiculous....Will we see 2.3/3.0? I mean this phone should have came with 2.2 or at latest sept. I really expect samsung to support these phones through July 2011. Does anyone else? What's your expectations?

i don't think there will be official 2.3 android...

Samsung is notorious for not supporting updates. They'd rather sell new hardware than update what's out already for free. You're lucky you're getting a 2.2 update even if it is taking forever to release, 2.3 is going to be a stretch though.

Who cares for official release , no one here is running stock anyhow.
Word on the street is Nexus S is Galaxy S variant and is running Gingerbread, and since Nexus line is googles developer phone , means source of gingerbread will be available .
I expect easy and smooth port to Captivate by local XDA devs.

ghost77 said:
Who cares for official release , no one here is running stock anyhow.
Word on the street is Nexus S is Galaxy S variant and is running Gingerbread, and since Nexus line is googles developer phone , means source of gingerbread will be available .
I expect easy and smooth port to Captivate by local XDA devs.
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Woot, never thought of that, since it will be a Galaxy S variant. That just made me happy to think about

ghost77 said:
Who cares for official release , no one here is running stock anyhow.
Word on the street is Nexus S is Galaxy S variant and is running Gingerbread, and since Nexus line is googles developer phone , means source of gingerbread will be available .
I expect easy and smooth port to Captivate by local XDA devs.
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We already know the camera is different... I don't think it will be as easy as i9000 to i897.. but yes there is some hope here . Google to the rescue!!!
Actually OP this is why we are all so excited about Cyanogen - BC it has NO Samsung components you can just upgrade to 2.3 once its released.... once cyanogen is final nobody here will be talking about Samsung anymore
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ghost77 said:
Who cares for official release , no one here is running stock anyhow.
Word on the street is Nexus S is Galaxy S variant and is running Gingerbread, and since Nexus line is googles developer phone , means source of gingerbread will be available .
I expect easy and smooth port to Captivate by local XDA devs.
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It's gonna be quite different. The camera and the soc will be dual core. Could have other hardware different as well.
I wonder how motorola and htc can afford to keep their top phones upgraded and samsung... Doesn't. I mean look at the droid from nov 2009....
I hate to go back to an iPhone next year, but this sucks. Thank god for xda! The devs here should have their own national holiday.

We don't really know anything about its spec just many rumors/fantasy's.
The only thing we do know its a bit curved , possibly a concave display , seen in one of the interview videos.

Corriewf said:
Am I the only one that worries more about 2.3 than 2.2? Samsung is literally the last top of the line phone to get 2.2....ridiculous....Will we see 2.3/3.0? I mean this phone should have came with 2.2 or at latest sept. I really expect samsung to support these phones through July 2011. Does anyone else? What's your expectations?
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Just a correction, x10 is still on 1.6 so wer not that far behind
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mac208x said:
Just a correction, x10 is still on 1.6 so wer not that far behind
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X10 is not a top of the line device. It was supposed to be out last feb...by the time it came out, middle of the pack at best.
I would not base any standards on a SE device.

we still have a lot of things to play with...I played with Samsung focus and the position of camera&usb&mic I can say it's definitely the same with captivate...

Very true i hate how SAMSUNG doesn't update their devices. I might just get a nexus one now haha
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The sad part the Captivate its the only good android phone on at&t. I guess we're stuck with the captivate forever thanks att.
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Dxtra said:
The sad part the Captivate its the only good android phone on at&t. I guess we're stuck with the captivate forever thanks att.
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Motorola is supposed to be bringing a dual core phone to AT&T in feb. That's if you like blur. I'm also not sold on dual core either... I mean hello battery drain and for what positives? The soc in our captivate has yet to be pushed by anything android market can throw at it.
The resale value on this phone is gonna be horrible. I sold my 3GS last month for 300. Think in oct 2011 I can sell this phone for 200? Sucks. If the software support was there, they would wipe the floor with apple.

Corriewf said:
Motorola is supposed to be bringing a dual core phone to AT&T in feb. That's if you like blur. I'm also not sold on dual core either... I mean hello battery drain and for what positives? The soc in our captivate has yet to be pushed by anything android market can throw at it.
The resale value on this phone is gonna be horrible. I sold my 3GS last month for 300. Think in oct 2011 I can sell this phone for 200? Sucks. If the software support was there, they would wipe the floor with apple.
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No way. The only reason people are on this forum / using this phone is because this is the only competitive att android. I love android os, but Samsung is so terrible at public relations that nobody will want a phone that never updates and has a broken GPS. You would be lucky to get 200 in 6 months...
Seriously I hope for my sake att doesn't get another good android phone for a while... all the developers will leave this behind
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The new dual-core suppose to use less power then current single-core , if its true i wouldn't worrie about power.

you samsung guys are soooo pessmist ,
I come form a motorola phone with a locked bootloader , 2.2 was announce for the end of Q4
just to show there is worst then samsung ...
on a side note this devce can run custom kernel , so as long as source is release for gingerbread who cares even if its only out for htc it will eventually be ported to SGS , as long as there is a need for it it will happen ...as simple as that ...

fatttire said:
No way. The only reason people are on this forum / using this phone is because this is the only competitive att android. I love android os, but Samsung is so terrible at public relations that nobody will want a phone that never updates and has a broken GPS. You would be lucky to get 200 in 6 months...
Seriously I hope for my sake att doesn't get another good android phone for a while... all the developers will leave this behind
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See that is exactly how Apple keeps winning the war. Software support. It's an easy Eco system to buy into because the hardware is almost always supported for years. Yes closed systems. But the resale value for notebooks, computers, and iPhones is awesome. My wife will easily be able to pay for her next iPhone by selling the iPhone 4, hell we made 100 profit on both our 3GS. I have bought 2 3GS, an iPad, and a MacBook air.
I really love android and I love the hardware samsung puts out. I just wish they could grasp the concept of full customer support. They just come across as shady salesmen that can't wait to push the next big thing.
If I can't sell my captivate for much $$, I certainly won't be buying the next samsung whatever.

DAGr8 said:
you samsung guys are soooo pessmist ,
I come form a motorola phone with a locked bootloader , 2.2 was announce for the end of Q4
just to show there is worst then samsung ...
on a side note this devce can run custom kernel , so as long as source is release for gingerbread who cares even if its only out for htc it will eventually be ported to SGS , as long as there is a need for it it will happen ...as simple as that ...
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Sorry...I came from a cdma HTC Sprint hero...and people have a right to be pessimistic about all of this. I've been down this road with them where 2.2 was promised..but never delivered..Yes..we could root and flash to other roms including Cyanogen's 2.2 CM6....but..the whole point is getting what was promised to begin with..
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Mac11700 said:
Sorry...I came from a cdma HTC Sprint hero...and people have a right to be pessimistic about all of this. I've been down this road with them where 2.2 was promised..but never delivered..Yes..we could root and flash to other roms including Cyanogen's 2.2 CM6....but..the whole point is getting what was promised to begin with..
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The way I see it these companies should make one of the following choices:
1. Sell cellphones with untouched Android. Leave it like wp7 and ios and let google handle software upgrades etc.
2. Have your custom software but support upgrades until hardware is no longer up to par. Maybe make their software downloadable through the market so we just update as needed but can run stock android while waiting.
3. Get out of the cellphone business and just become a hardware manufacture for real cellphone companies that can provide support.
I personally think option 1 is the best.... And most profitable. I mean samsung is stretched pretty thin. They make tvs and washing machines while trying to make cell phones, manufacture chips, and be a software company. Do what you do best and stick with it.

New device for each android version?

Seems like this article is saying there will be a new google device with each android release. Honestly this frustrates me.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...h-new-Ice-Cream-Android-operating-system.html
Edit: I could have sworn I posted this in the general section. Please move if needed.

lovely... Nexus 3 here we go...

NicholasQ said:
Seems like this article is saying there will be a new google device with each android release. Honestly this frustrates me.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...h-new-Ice-Cream-Android-operating-system.html
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Actually this makes sense. I read another article recently that made it a good case for Honeycomb coming to phones. When the N1 launched, it launched with 2.1 then was the first to get 2.2. We launched with 2.3 and will most likely be the first to get 2.4 so when the updates after that come around it will be about a year from the launch of our phone so it'll be about time for a new Nexus.

kenvan19 said:
Actually this makes sense. I read another article recently that made it a good case for Honeycomb coming to phones. When the N1 launched, it launched with 2.1 then was the first to get 2.2. We launched with 2.3 and will most likely be the first to get 2.4 so when the updates after that come around it will be about a year from the launch of our phone so it'll be about time for a new Nexus.
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You think it will be a year? I'm not so sure though. What exactly is 2.4? Ice cream? Because this article says there will be a new device with ice cream. I also read somewhere that ice cream is projected for this summer. So that would mean a new "nexus" this summer.....?

They haven't even ironed out the bugs with gingerbread and they are planning to release something new with 2.4? I love this phone but its pretty galling that here its 2 months after release and we still don't have browser or reboot prob fixed.
On a side note, I'm thinking that it might be an LG phone if Google is really doing the round robin thing with nexus manufacturers. I doubt nexus will be a Motorola phone until they ditch that locked bootloader.
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[Q] Any official information for the 4.0 update?

Why it's taking so long? Does anybody has an official information about the new update and when it's supoesd to get on Nexus S???

i read it would be released on the 16th
lets cross our fingers

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Why it's taking so long? Does anybody has an official information about the new update and when it's supoesd to get on Nexus S???
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So long? You realize the flagship device that ICS is releasing in the US on has yet to be even launched by a carrier, right?
Why on earth would Google release ICS on the Nexus S before the Galaxy Nexus? It makes no business sense. I'm guessing it'll be at least another 2 weeks or more before we see the OTA update. I just cant see Google releasing the update for the Nexus S right at the launch of the phone that's supposed to promote the new system.

Which sucks big time, i do loathe the Evil Empire, but i also remember having the GM and stock update to iOS4.0 on 3GS a week before iPhone 4 came out. It's not like GN only has ICS going for it, but that's the message Google is sending our way. And i obviously will no way in bloody hell be upgrading to GN after this **** up.
Bloody Huawei the first phone with ICS, not Nexus S?!
And another thing, i don't always mind waiting. But i do like to know how long and what the duck for. Another thing Evil Empire does right, tells the date and sticks to it.
I understand a phone can't be cutting edge for years, hell, not even months, but on the other hand i see people walking around with new iPhone 3GS updated to the latest OS as soon as the latest toy is updated. And i can't buy a single bloody app although i'm from a supposedly supported country. Developers say it's Google, Google says it's developers.
I am so switching if i don't get ICS by Christmas :/ and if bloody Email app still drains battery in flight mode on ICS. Like children running a big business :/

"Bloody Huawei the first phone with ICS, not Nexus S?!"
Be interesting to see how well it runs though??
Myself, really happy at the moment with CM7 and hope they include some of the nice, minor, but useful features of that in the CM9 build. So far there have just been enough niggles with the ICS ROM's ive tried so that i'll stick on CM7 for a while.

If I recall correctly, I thought Huawei only released a demo? Also, the Nexus One didn't officially get Gingerbread until 2.3.3 which came out around January/February.
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I NOT WAIT FOR 4G ON ICS.
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Don't buy samsung

Samsung is a manufacturer which is having the most market shares currently.But, their customer aftermarket support is the worst.
As all of us know, the Galaxy line of devices are so successful today for having a sales of up to millions.The reason for this is from the start of the Galaxy S.It is their flagship phone in 2010, with a sales of about 20 million globally. Now, Samsung have made a decision not to upgrade the Galaxy S to the newset Android 4.0. Source: http://www.samsungtomorrow.com/2043
Translated English page by Sammobile : http://www.sammobile.com/2011/12/22/official-no-android-4-0-for-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab/
Is it a hardware issue?No, it is because they just don't want to upgrade it and wants people to buy their new phones so they can make more money.And even Sony Ericsson done soooo much better than them. They decided to upgrade their whole 2011 Xperia line of devices, even including the 150$ Xperia Mini.
Yes i know that the Galaxy S is an old device, which already exceeded the 18 months of software update. But well, what happens to its other brother? The Galaxy S Super Clear LCD i9003 which launched about the same time as the Galaxy S2, and the Galaxy S Plus which have not even exceeded 6 months,and the recently Galaxy W,what would happen to them?And also, the Galaxy S have so much similarities to the Nexus S, which had its Ice Cream Sandwich update about 1 week ago.
It is a BIG SHAME that Samsung would make this decision, as these devices are still in the 18 months software update timeline. Is the Google's Android Update Alliance dead? Most of us would probably say yes. If Samsung are not gonna rethink this and release the new update for the Galaxy S phones, I would be sure that this is my first and last Samsung phone ever.Samsung is just caring its sales of new devices and its money.My next phone would be only from Google, the Nexus line.

I'm guessing u have a galaxy s? All companies are like that all they care about is money. Why give it to the old phone when they can Just make a new one and give it to that one and make double or triple the money. Just because their greedy didn't mean its a bad phone. Just saying. Funny thing is I have an HTC
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These companies are venomous, I'm going to get an n9 even if its a dying breed
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The best part about this post is the last sentence. The Nexus is made by Samsung buddy...

LMAO he doesn't know that Google phones are still made by Samsung (cue the Galaxy Nexus)
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boss man Kole said:
I'm guessing u have a galaxy s? All companies are like that all they care about is money. Why give it to the old phone when they can Just make a new one and give it to that one and make double or triple the money. Just because their greedy didn't mean its a bad phone. Just saying. Funny thing is I have an HTC
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The market is just a joke now - the devices are all junk really. Everybody can get one now because they're free on contract, and that has totally killed the value of a "smartphone", even if we can get them cheaper now. For this reason, there's no need to cry over spilled milk. I had an HTC Diamond from 2009 up until this year, when it wasn't worth it to repair because the market screwed itself so badly. I (sadly) carry around a Samsung Epic (the superior of all the Galaxy S series), but it'll never be able to replace the magic of Windows Mobile that our quickly moving market/retarded Microsoft has frowned upon.
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Motorola is the worse when it comes to upgrade
and with their locked bootloader you can't even load custom ROMs
HTC is heading the same way as Moto

If you want updates then next time just get a nexus device next time your available for an upgrade or get a crapple iPhone!! ;p
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If you are whining about updates why don't you flash a custom rom? Or get a nexus? Oh wait....
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people who care about receiving the latest update would be on forums like this - by extension you will have dabbled with custom roms.
samsung gave their reason why they couldn't put ICS on the older devices - it involves touchwiz, which is their core skin - samsung aren't going to ditch it for their non nexus devices anytime soon (otherwise every android handset would really be "the same as the next").
load a custom rom with no skins onto your phone and stop complaining, or buy a new device. nobody guaranteed you any updates to the latest firmware - and hell, i wouldn't be surprised if the galaxy s 2 won't receive an update to android letter "J" because the screen resolution is too small or something.

Stop whining and get a new device. I was once a Galaxy S user, and have been through the Eclair, Froyo and Gingerbread era. I am more than satisfied to have this phone supported until Gingerbread. Besides, I can flash the ported ICS rom if I want to.

Wiggy Fuzz said:
people who care about receiving the latest update would be on forums like this - by extension you will have dabbled with custom roms.
samsung gave their reason why they couldn't put ICS on the older devices - it involves touchwiz, which is their core skin - samsung aren't going to ditch it for their non nexus devices anytime soon (otherwise every android handset would really be "the same as the next").
load a custom rom with no skins onto your phone and stop complaining, or buy a new device. nobody guaranteed you any updates to the latest firmware - and hell, i wouldn't be surprised if the galaxy s 2 won't receive an update to android letter "J" because the screen resolution is too small or something.
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Spot on! Most of the average consumer don't give a damn about what android version they are using, the manufacturer skin and other stuff about that. As long as the phone is works just nice, then they don't care about the versions they are using. I even saw phones (Xperia X8) still stuck at 2.1 and yet the phone works just fine. Did the phone render unusable for not having 4.0? No right? If those guys (especially techies) still whine about manufacturers not giving updates or some sort why don't they flash a custom rom? Problem Solved.

Bro!
This is ****ing XD-****ing-A!
root your phone and flash the ****!
You're pissed off at a company for not putting out OTAs of upgrades?
We're talking about Android here, the OS that I love, that i die for. What are we talking about, Android? We're talking about Android! What are we talking about, Android?
This is XDA homez!
root your phone and flash ICS!
How in the name of Zeus did you go 4 days with a stock ROM on ANY Samsung device? How the **** did you not void your warranty the second you unboxed your phone??
In ALL of the time you spent putting together this very eloquent and moving post, you could have rooted your phone and flashed a custom ROM.
Just wait for CM8 on EVERY device, don't worry about it, you're getting bent out of shape.

Can old S even handle 4.0 hardware wise? How much ram does 4.0 need to run comfortably?
Also, OP, you've clearly NEVER really been a phone enthusiast, have you? Go look up OMNIA HD, for example. People still used and more or less loved it despite how little support it got even from the community.

Skv012a said:
Can old S even handle 4.0 hardware wise? How much ram does 4.0 need to run comfortably?
Also, OP, you've clearly NEVER really been a phone enthusiast, have you? Go look up OMNIA HD, for example. People still used and more or less loved it despite how little support it got even from the community.
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yeah dude, ICS uses like so much less resources then even Sense 1.0, you could probably flash it on a motorola startac

orangekid said:
Bro!
This is ****ing XD-****ing-A!
root your phone and flash the ****!
You're pissed off at a company for not putting out OTAs of upgrades?
We're talking about Android here, the OS that I love, that i die for. What are we talking about, Android? We're talking about Android! What are we talking about, Android?
This is XDA homez!
root your phone and flash ICS!
How in the name of Zeus did you go 4 days with a stock ROM on ANY Samsung device? How the **** did you not void your warranty the second you unboxed your phone??
In ALL of the time you spent putting together this very eloquent and moving post, you could have rooted your phone and flashed a custom ROM.
Just wait for CM9 on EVERY device, don't worry about it, you're getting bent out of shape.
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Fixed. XD
It is just amusing to see that non-android techies just whine about (Insert phone manufacturer here) not giving updates to (Insert phone of the manufacturer). And OP even rant in a forum called XDA.... Head-------->Wall
What? Did the phone rendered unusable for not having 4.0? Well, you can get a freaking Nexus... and Problem Solved.
BTW Sammy is one of the most dev-friendly manufacturers out there. They tried to make everything open source, having an open bootloader and even gave SGS2s to CM7 developers. They hired Steve Kondik (The guy who worked on the popular CyanogenMod Rom) too. Unlike HTC which locks down bootloaders on their devices and lied about it about the bootloader unlock thingy.
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yeah dude, ICS uses like so much less resources then even Sense 1.0, you could probably flash it on a motorola startac
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I lol'd at this.

rocker529 said:
My next phone would be only from Google, the Nexus line.
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You do realize that last two Nexus phones were made by Samsung, right?

AnyMal said:
You do realize that last two Nexus phones were made by Samsung, right?
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Unless OP wants to get a Nexus One which won't be updated to ICS officially....

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Fixed. XD
It is just amusing to see that non-android techies just whine about (Insert phone manufacturer here) not giving updates to (Insert phone of the manufacturer). And OP even rant in a forum called XDA.... Head-------->Wall
What? Did the phone rendered unusable for not having 4.0? Well, you can get a freaking Nexus... and Problem Solved.
BTW Sammy is one of the most dev-friendly manufacturers out there. They tried to make everything open source, having an open bootloader and even gave SGS2s to CM7 developers. They hired Steve Kondik (The guy who worked on the popular CyanogenMod Rom) too. Unlike HTC which locks down bootloaders on their devices and lied about it about the bootloader unlock thingy.
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I lol'd at this.
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lol thx for the fix, was laughing my ass off at Jim Rome and slipped the 8 instead of 9

Just get nexus end of story.

Frustrated with ICS updates!

Bought this phone on the promise of an ICS upgrade which was posted right on Telus' product page to be January 2012.
This is my third Android and I know from experience if the manufacturer doesn't announce the update is in progress, at least a month prior to its due date, it's likely delayed at least a month.
Anyone else feel the same way?
Frankly, the update process is super rediculous. Three different manufacturers, all terrible at communicating!
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it's the same every year (it happened with eclair 2.1, froyo 2.2, it happened with gingerbread 2.3)
the flagship device will launch with the latest OS
then a few new devices of the same year launches with the latest OS
then 3 month later most last years phone get the new OS

your fault for buying something based on a promised update
a little research would have told you that it is not wise to do that... buy a phone based on what that phone is like today... not based on what the phone is promised to become at a later date.

Boo freakin' hoo, would you rather have a full functioning ROM or an ICS ROM pushed prematurely and have endless problems?
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Tipical from samsung... Maybe a Rom developer will make a port of ICS for this model...

zeekiz said:
Boo freakin' hoo, would you rather have a full functioning ROM or an ICS ROM pushed prematurely and have endless problems?
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Word. I don't see why everyone is so bent out of shape about ics.
Gingerbread functions well and ALL the apps I want to use work on it. Is this the case with ics?
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There is a brand called huawei. It announced ICS demo for x6 and uploaded the "enchanced" 2.3 rom for x5. do you know what? both of them is buggy as hell. x6 is the flagship, The first ICS update announced uploaded phone in world (at least they say) they uploaded 2.3.5 for x5 and they fcked with screen. now I can operate screen without touching.
Some devs are preparing ICS based roms for x5 but believe me none of them could finish them before feb. So I'm a x5 owner and I lost my hopes from updates. When after they introduced x6, whole x5 development stopped. That happes everytime. Nokia 5800, happened samething when c6 announced. N70, same thing happened after a year. Every f.ing time same thing happen, every f.ing time...

jordanishere said:
Word. I don't see why everyone is so bent out of shape about ics.
Gingerbread functions well and ALL the apps I want to use work on it. Is this the case with ics?
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Honestly ICS is great, but some applications really don't play nicely with it. But unfortunately most users are constantly under the impression that new is always better, reality proves this isn't true.
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Good point! Newer isn't always better, but around here (XDA) it's the only thing people care about (myself included haha).

How about you root your phone and put an ICS ROM on yourself? The thing is, what are you expecting with ICS? You realize that your UI is going to look exactly the same right? Touchwiz is going to be touchwiz...so unless you have a nexus, or an AOSP based ROM you arent going to see much of a difference except in your app drawer and menus.