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I am a big fan of the "Nexus" brand myself, it feels like Google's version of the iPhone, in that there is no carrier bloatware, or brand name UI's, just the "pure" Android OS.
I have owned the Nexus-One, and now the Nexus-S, and liked both these phones a lot. Before that I had an iPhone3G, it was cool when it first came out, but now I just feel the iOS is dated, and not up to date with Android or WinMo7.
Just curious as to what the next "nexus" phone will be, and when it's due out ? I heard rumors it will be an HTC made phone, called the Nexus-Two, running the next generation Snapdragon processor, that is dual core 1.2ghz. Not sure if it will be a 2.4 Honeycomb phone, or the 3.0 Ice cream ?
It will probably be a tablet with honeycomb on it.
we just got the second incarnation can we not talk about this now
All i know is that people are going to ***** cuz it doesnt have NFC *rolls eyes*
That brings up another question too, what are approx release dates for Honeycomb and Ice cream ?
I think Honeycomb is the 2.4 # ? And is that the one where the developers have been bragging will bring the MAJOR revisions to the UI, and really be a big leap for Android, not just the little changes from like 2.2 Froyo to 2.3 Gingerbread, but a huge leap forward ? Plus be the first release that is made for dual core ?
Then not sure what Ice Cream 3.0 is, if Honeycomb brings the major UI changes.
My assumption is that HTC will regain access to AMOLED and Google will return to them. And the Tegra platform is looking to be the most mainstream next year, they even announced Tegra 3
Nexus 2, Nexus 3, Nexus X, Nexus G, whatever
Zorachus said:
That brings up another question too, what are approx release dates for Honeycomb and Ice cream ?
I think Honeycomb is the 2.4 # ? And is that the one where the developers have been bragging will bring the MAJOR revisions to the UI, and really be a big leap for Android, not just the little changes from like 2.2 Froyo to 2.3 Gingerbread, but a huge leap forward ? Plus be the first release that is made for dual core ?
Then not sure what Ice Cream 3.0 is, if Honeycomb brings the major UI changes.
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It's most likely that Honeycomb is 3.0 as it will be a massive jump for tablets and phones. the 2.4 rumor was just a random tipster from androidandme.com which has no credibility at all.
But we don't know until Google officially announces it.
Thanks for the info Yeah I heard "Honeycomb" comes out on the next gen tablets due out in Feb, and then will be brought to the phones in like May or so, to be released before iPhone 5.
The spy shots of that 10" Motorola tablet looks pretty sweet.
Motorola Nexus Tab Will be out early 2011 with Honeycomb.
As far as a phone goes? No one knows. And won't know til late 2011.
I think I read something recently where Google said the Nexus brand phones will not just be the annual Christmas release only. But that there will be a "nexus" device launched with every major OS update. And that the next Nexus device will be a Honeycomb tablet. And the next Nexus phone will be running Android 3.0 "ice cream"
Guess time will tell...for now I am very happy with my Nexus-S
Well it usually takes a year for them to release such a large incremental update.
slateac said:
My assumption is that HTC will regain access to AMOLED and Google will return to them. And the Tegra platform is looking to be the most mainstream next year, they even announced Tegra 3
Nexus 2, Nexus 3, Nexus X, Nexus G, whatever
It's most likely that Honeycomb is 3.0 as it will be a massive jump for tablets and phones. the 2.4 rumor was just a random tipster from androidandme.com which has no credibility at all.
But we don't know until Google officially announces it.
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Gingerbread - 2.3
Honeycomb - 3.0 (for tablets and phones soon)
Ice Cream -3.5
The more important question is, how many desert names can they come up with to apply for the rest of the alphabet? And what happens after Z?
Z = Zingers an American Snack cake... as for after that, it is anyone's guess. Maybe fruit?
Nexus M and Motorola makes it. Just a guess.
I can't wait for cookie dough.
Nexus is chosen from whomever sells the most Android phones. Nothing more.
The next Nexus will be, compared to the specifications, very fast.
It will also lack something people are going to start a couple of thousand threads about.
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The next Nexus will be, compared to the specifications, very fast.
It will also lack something people are going to start a couple of thousand threads about.
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Folks might complain about not having something to complain about, too.
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Nexus M and Motorola makes it. Just a guess.
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That's my guess as well. I see Google giving everyone a shot at the Nexus brand, in the spirit of openness. Not sure how the names will go, but it won't be held to Samsung/HTC, it'll go to whoever has the best to offer and can provide the best bang-for-buck.
Yeah I'm guessing Moto. Something doesn't feel right about them going back to HTC-- I doubt Google will want any speculation that there is a favored hardware developer. Google is juggling a ton of Android handset makers and will likely do everything to make sure they don't shift to WP7.
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Folks might complain about not having something to complain about, too.
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Seriously, I saw a couple of reviews of the Nexus S which had actually 'NFC isn't very useful yet' as a con! That's just stupid.
On topic: I really hope Sony Ericsson. I would never buy a 'normal' Android phone from SE, because of the drastically changed interface and the Xperia X10 with 2.1 not getting updates anymore, ever. But their phones are soooo sexy. Look at the upcoming Arc! Wow! If they co-operate with Google, the only thing SE will be the master of is the outside of the phone. Google determines the interface, the updates, if dual-core is needed, etc. etc.
I always thought that the "nexus" brand phones, were designed to be the first Android phones to receive the big updates from Google ? But that doesn't seem to be true.
I am not too confident that the Nexus-S will be first in line to get the next big OS update. I see them coming out with a Nexus-3.0 being the first phone running "ice Cream" then later on down the road the Nexus-S will get that update, and then possibly the Nexus-One.
I thought Google was going to do it differently ? If there is a "nexus" brand phone, it should get the newest OS right away, that was the whole point of the phone. But the Nexus-S came out with 2.3, and all the Nexus-One owners just kept waiting and waiting, for a few months. That was not cool. I don't remember, but was the Nexus-One the first phone to get 2.2 Froyo before any other phone ?
The Nexus One didn't get the update until some of the major bugs we're ironed out. The Nexus One got Froyo first. The Nexus phones will always get the first updates but they may not get them at the same time. We don't know anything about the next Nexus but the other Nexus' will get whatever OS it comes with. Don't be so paranoid.
Yes, the nexus s and nexus one are the only phones that have 2.3 currently
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Darrien13 said:
Yes, the nexus s and nexus one are the only phones that have 2.3 currently
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I know thanks. But my point is on how long it took for Nexus-One to get 2.3, I was under the impression the "nexus" brand phones are the first to get the newest releases, sure it was the "first" technically besides the Nexus-S, but it took a long time, well over 2 months. I would have expected Google to test 2.3 on both Nexus devices and release at the same time, or at least fairly close, like a week or so.
So is this the pattern ? When there is a major new Android OS release, a new "nexus" phone will come out first with it, then the old Nexus phones get it trickled down to it at some later date, and all other phones months after that ? So for example, if the next major release is "Ice cream" do NOT expect the Nexus-S to get it right away, I would expect it first on a brand new Nexus-3.0 phone ? Then a month or two later the older Nexus phones will finally get it ?
We have no idea what will happen with the new Nexus phone. We don't know what version of Android it will run. We don't know when it will be released. We don't know when the other Nexus phones will get its version of Android. Extrapolating a pattern from a single point of reference is impossible (There are two Nexus phone, but only one release of an OS while there was a previous Nexus).
From what I have read on Android sites, there will be a Nexus-3.0 built by HTC or possibly Motorola for once, and released second half of 2011, most likely end of the year, and it is supposed to ship with "ice cream", the first ever Android phone with that OS.
But there is a rumor, strongly typed word "RUMOR", that the new HTC-Pyramid coming to T-Mobile this Spring, could be the next Google phone by HTC, and might be the Nexus-2.4 release.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-pyramid-shows-online-some-early-renders
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From what I have read on Android sites, there will be a Nexus-3.0 built by HTC or possibly Motorola for once, and released second half of 2011, most likely end of the year, and it is supposed to ship with "ice cream", the first ever Android phone with that OS.
But there is a rumor, strongly typed word "RUMOR", that the new HTC-Pyramid coming to T-Mobile this Spring, could be the next Google phone by HTC, and might be the Nexus-2.4 release.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-pyramid-shows-online-some-early-renders
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I've read all of those articles about the Pyramid and I don't believe them. 2.4 is still Gingerbread and will come to the Nexus S first. 3.0 is already out. Its called Honeycomb. We don't know anything about the Android iteration following it. It would make sense for the next Nexus phone to come out around the end of 2011, beginning of 2012 but that's all we can say for sure.
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I know thanks. But my point is on how long it took for Nexus-One to get 2.3, I was under the impression the "nexus" brand phones are the first to get the newest releases, sure it was the "first" technically besides the Nexus-S, but it took a long time, well over 2 months. I would have expected Google to test 2.3 on both Nexus devices and release at the same time, or at least fairly close, like a week or so.
So is this the pattern ? When there is a major new Android OS release, a new "nexus" phone will come out first with it, then the old Nexus phones get it trickled down to it at some later date, and all other phones months after that ? So for example, if the next major release is "Ice cream" do NOT expect the Nexus-S to get it right away, I would expect it first on a brand new Nexus-3.0 phone ? Then a month or two later the older Nexus phones will finally get it ?
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Does it matter how long it takes? It got the 2.3 update and is one of the first devices with it. That's what should matter. People that are on the fritz about this is worrying too much.
Also, why are people asking "will this be the pattern for future Nexus devices?" The answer is obvious. No one knows until more Nexus devices are out.
the nexus one took a while, which sucked, but they had some delays with bugs and testing. the bottom line is, you will br worse off with any other android phone. so really you have no choice but to go with the nexus phones if you want the first updates. no manufacturer will ever be faster than google to update their device.
sometimes crap happens and they hit delays. software is a hard thing to get perfect. and hell 2.3 STILL has issues.
Thank God for the nexus is perfect for my inpatient self... cant wait for the next update already
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Hi all,
After ICS OTA upgrade, will I have to reconfigure and reinstall all the apps?? Also, what about the media data?
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It dosen't matter. Just backup with Titanium Backup and restore when it comes.
ElMango said:
Hi all,
After ICS OTA upgrade, will I have to reconfigure and reinstall all the apps?? Also, what about the media data?
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You'll want to wait for a rooted version of the OTA anyway. It'll be out hours after the source is released. Then you can just use your favorite backup app to get your stuff back.
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Do we know approximately when the ICS is set to come. Since I got the 3D I haven't really kept up with Nexus news but I'm looking to come back to the flagship.
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Samfirmware stated on twitter two days ago that it was close.
Twitter.com/samfirmware
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Don't see why it would take Google sooooo long to release the OTA ? I mean, The community has had it built for Weeks. I guess I'm just a bit too impatient and don't really feel like rooting my phone.
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I'm the same. I've rooted by all the ICS ROM's still have bugs. I'd already have a Galaxy Nexus if they did not delay and delay then have volume bugs! If they released all the drivers from day one, we'd have a million decent custom ROM's...
the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark. say what you will about apple but when an update comes out all compatible devices receive the update that day. obviously im not saying every android should get this update in a timely manner, but a phone by google made for this situation certainly should
I have a question when they said that nexus s should receive ice cream sandwich within " weeks" after galaxy nexus release. Do you guys think the clock has started or are did they mean release in the united states?
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fightingroost12 said:
the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark.
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Yeah, you may want to recall how us Nexus One users were treated with Gingerbread when the NS came out. ICS was probably developed primarily on the GN, so NS development slips on the totem pole. At least you are getting official ICS...
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Yeah, you may want to recall how us Nexus One users were treated with Gingerbread when the NS came out. ICS was probably developed primarily on the GN, so NS development slips on the totem pole. At least you are getting official ICS...
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yea your right, im very happy just to be on gingerbread (anyone with an x10 or intercept will agree with me) and i wouldnt even mind waiting for the update, its mostly the lack of any information from google thats killing me
hamiltus said:
Don't see why it would take Google sooooo long to release the OTA ? I mean, The community has had it built for Weeks. I guess I'm just a bit too impatient and don't really feel like rooting my phone.
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Because unlike the Community, Google has certain standards it must meet before releasing an OTA. I mean no respect towards the community but no company could ever release partially working builds.
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the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark. say what you will about apple but when an update comes out all compatible devices receive the update that day. obviously im not saying every android should get this update in a timely manner, but a phone by google made for this situation certainly should
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The Nexus S will get a ICS update LOOONNNGGGG before any other phone will and ICS was built for the Galaxy Nexus so THAT was the first and easiest to develop for. The Nexus S is next.
I don't really care the Nexus S gets the update before other phones, I just want it asap.
I'd gladly have every compatible phone receive ICS tomorrow as long as I got it on my NS.
And, much as I don't like it; the Apple comparisons are true. Apple do release new OS available for everyone to download on the same day their new device featuring that OS is launched.
People say that it would be ridiculous to expect updates until the GN has been out a while, but why? Google should have made the next update available on the day they announced ICS.
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I don't really care the Nexus S gets the update before other phones, I just want it asap.
I'd gladly have every compatible phone receive ICS tomorrow as long as I got it on my NS.
And, much as I don't like it; the Apple comparisons are true. Apple do release new OS available for everyone to download on the same day their new device featuring that OS is launched.
People say that it would be ridiculous to expect updates until the GN has been out a while, but why? Google should have made the next update available on the day they announced ICS.
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Apple also restricts new features to older phones to encourage people to upgrade. Just look at Siri as a fine example, it's *only* available on the 4s even though it's been proven that it will run fine on the 4. Similar constraints can be found with each model upgrade.
When ICS comes out for the nexus S, it will be fully functional with no neutering of any feature. so how does one "encourage" people to upgrade? you delay the update to crank in some early sales.
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Apple also restricts new features to older phones to encourage people to upgrade. Just look at Siri as a fine example, it's *only* available on the 4s even though it's been proven that it will run fine on the 4. Similar constraints can be found with each model upgrade.
When ICS comes out for the nexus S, it will be fully functional with no neutering of any feature. so how does one "encourage" people to upgrade? you delay the update to crank in some early sales.
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all because thats true it doesnt make the other point invalid. When a new iphone comes out, all iphones (and ipod touches mind you) get the update that day.
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all because thats true it doesnt make the other point invalid. When a new iphone comes out, all iphones (and ipod touches mind you) get the update that day.
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Does the iPod second generation have IOS 5? What about the original iPhone?
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Does the iPod second generation have IOS 5? What about the original iPhone?
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is the nexus one getting ICS? how about the G1?
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is the nexus one getting ICS? how about the G1?
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Point, but this is due to hardware limitations. Siri for example will run fine on older devices. also if I know the Xda, there will be a ROM available
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Point, but this is due to hardware limitations. Siri for example will run fine on older devices. also if I know the Xda, there will be a ROM available
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of course there will be, there already are roms available now for the g1. the original iphone obviously has the same problem the g1 has, hardware limitations. When 4.0 came out the iphone 3gs was laggy and almost unusable until apple released a second update to fix the mess. But were losing sight of the point, when an OS is released by apple all phones (fine all compatible phones) get it that day. Sure it doesnt have all the features as the newest iphones, and by not all the features i mean ONE feature as in siri, but they get the update at least. What have we received since the galaxy nexus was released? And i honestly dont even care enough to keep talking about it, but when ever people hear about apple they always have to but in with "YEA BUT APPLE SUCKS CAUSE ____" which isnt the point, i was making a comparison.
like i said before all because one statement is true, it doesnt make the other statement false.
Why it's taking so long? Does anybody has an official information about the new update and when it's supoesd to get on Nexus S???
i read it would be released on the 16th
lets cross our fingers
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Why it's taking so long? Does anybody has an official information about the new update and when it's supoesd to get on Nexus S???
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So long? You realize the flagship device that ICS is releasing in the US on has yet to be even launched by a carrier, right?
Why on earth would Google release ICS on the Nexus S before the Galaxy Nexus? It makes no business sense. I'm guessing it'll be at least another 2 weeks or more before we see the OTA update. I just cant see Google releasing the update for the Nexus S right at the launch of the phone that's supposed to promote the new system.
Which sucks big time, i do loathe the Evil Empire, but i also remember having the GM and stock update to iOS4.0 on 3GS a week before iPhone 4 came out. It's not like GN only has ICS going for it, but that's the message Google is sending our way. And i obviously will no way in bloody hell be upgrading to GN after this **** up.
Bloody Huawei the first phone with ICS, not Nexus S?!
And another thing, i don't always mind waiting. But i do like to know how long and what the duck for. Another thing Evil Empire does right, tells the date and sticks to it.
I understand a phone can't be cutting edge for years, hell, not even months, but on the other hand i see people walking around with new iPhone 3GS updated to the latest OS as soon as the latest toy is updated. And i can't buy a single bloody app although i'm from a supposedly supported country. Developers say it's Google, Google says it's developers.
I am so switching if i don't get ICS by Christmas :/ and if bloody Email app still drains battery in flight mode on ICS. Like children running a big business :/
"Bloody Huawei the first phone with ICS, not Nexus S?!"
Be interesting to see how well it runs though??
Myself, really happy at the moment with CM7 and hope they include some of the nice, minor, but useful features of that in the CM9 build. So far there have just been enough niggles with the ICS ROM's ive tried so that i'll stick on CM7 for a while.
If I recall correctly, I thought Huawei only released a demo? Also, the Nexus One didn't officially get Gingerbread until 2.3.3 which came out around January/February.
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I NOT WAIT FOR 4G ON ICS.
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Bought this phone on the promise of an ICS upgrade which was posted right on Telus' product page to be January 2012.
This is my third Android and I know from experience if the manufacturer doesn't announce the update is in progress, at least a month prior to its due date, it's likely delayed at least a month.
Anyone else feel the same way?
Frankly, the update process is super rediculous. Three different manufacturers, all terrible at communicating!
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it's the same every year (it happened with eclair 2.1, froyo 2.2, it happened with gingerbread 2.3)
the flagship device will launch with the latest OS
then a few new devices of the same year launches with the latest OS
then 3 month later most last years phone get the new OS
your fault for buying something based on a promised update
a little research would have told you that it is not wise to do that... buy a phone based on what that phone is like today... not based on what the phone is promised to become at a later date.
Boo freakin' hoo, would you rather have a full functioning ROM or an ICS ROM pushed prematurely and have endless problems?
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Tipical from samsung... Maybe a Rom developer will make a port of ICS for this model...
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Boo freakin' hoo, would you rather have a full functioning ROM or an ICS ROM pushed prematurely and have endless problems?
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Word. I don't see why everyone is so bent out of shape about ics.
Gingerbread functions well and ALL the apps I want to use work on it. Is this the case with ics?
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There is a brand called huawei. It announced ICS demo for x6 and uploaded the "enchanced" 2.3 rom for x5. do you know what? both of them is buggy as hell. x6 is the flagship, The first ICS update announced uploaded phone in world (at least they say) they uploaded 2.3.5 for x5 and they fcked with screen. now I can operate screen without touching.
Some devs are preparing ICS based roms for x5 but believe me none of them could finish them before feb. So I'm a x5 owner and I lost my hopes from updates. When after they introduced x6, whole x5 development stopped. That happes everytime. Nokia 5800, happened samething when c6 announced. N70, same thing happened after a year. Every f.ing time same thing happen, every f.ing time...
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Word. I don't see why everyone is so bent out of shape about ics.
Gingerbread functions well and ALL the apps I want to use work on it. Is this the case with ics?
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Honestly ICS is great, but some applications really don't play nicely with it. But unfortunately most users are constantly under the impression that new is always better, reality proves this isn't true.
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Good point! Newer isn't always better, but around here (XDA) it's the only thing people care about (myself included haha).
How about you root your phone and put an ICS ROM on yourself? The thing is, what are you expecting with ICS? You realize that your UI is going to look exactly the same right? Touchwiz is going to be touchwiz...so unless you have a nexus, or an AOSP based ROM you arent going to see much of a difference except in your app drawer and menus.