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After a lot of testing I have to the conclusion that the ROMs and images from the S4 cpu versions of One S is NOT compatible with the ones with the S3 cpu variants!
This includes ROM and CWM. This means also for now there is way to root the S3 one s variants. If you try flash the cwm anyway...you will screw your recovery and you can no longer hard reset the phone.
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To All Developers!!! For now, please add a prefix [S3] or [S4] to your thread title and mentioned it in OP
i just ordered another One S from Tmobile, do u know if they send out S3s now instead of S4s?
adulel08 said:
i just ordered another One S from Tmobile, do u know if they send out S3s now instead of S4s?
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All T-Mobile ones will have the S4. The S3 models are only for certain Asian and European markets.
Still though that may be true I haven't checked I still think the forum should be divided by version bases EU, UK, US etc.
Even if it had to be done by sub forum for VB it's really easy to do and would clear up a lot of issues people are having over here.
Duh? Isn't this an obvious warning? Does it really need a thread? Who the hell would flash a kernel made for another soc to their phone?
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Serious_Beans said:
Duh? Isn't this an obvious warning? Does it really need a thread? Who the hell would flash a kernel made for another soc to their phone?
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Because you have not used a one S that's why you don't know. There is no way to tell physically whether the One S has an S3 or an S4 processor. No markings, no physical differences, no model name differences on the box, nothing at all. This means to most people, a one s is a one s, most people do not know there is even two versions until they flash it and its too late.
Serious_Beans said:
Duh? Isn't this an obvious warning? Does it really need a thread? Who the hell would flash a kernel made for another soc to their phone?
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Additionally...because literally everyone assumes there is only one version of the one s, nobody states that whether their rom or cwm is for the s3 or S4 version...making it a real bummer... but as of now, unless someone specifically mentions its for the s3, DO NOT try to root or flash an image for you one s, because literally none of them out there are for one s for now
Are there any RUU's for the S3 version ?
I think the only conflicting issue would be the boot.img, so if you just flash that along with a S4 ROM you should be fine.
as for CWM, I assume there will be a line of code which specifies which device it is for, Edit it to the S3 version (VilleC?) and all should be fine.
As for the root package, That should require a simple updater-script edit and it will work !
As I told on another thread.
If partitions are the same (we need someone to check if true) the S4 roms should work with the S3 variant except for the Kernel and the boot.img . I guess a new cwm would be needed too
onlinechi said:
Because you have not used a one S that's why you don't know. There is no way to tell physically whether the One S has an S3 or an S4 processor. No markings, no physical differences, no model name differences on the box, nothing at all. This means to most people, a one s is a one s, most people do not know there is even two versions until they flash it and its too late.
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This is XDA we are a huge community, don't tell me we can't and nobody ever thought about asking around people's serials, part number, FCC ID and look for differences. They CAN'T be no differences. Anyway, the S3 models are 1.7GHz and the GHz is writen on the back of the box.
Yes, It will state on the box which version it is. And also in HBOOT it will say VILLEC So users will know before flashing which model they have.
If it becomes too big of a problem, Im sure we can get the mods to add a sub section. But they wont open one until we have some development and tutorials for it, Other wise it will be empty
I have requested that we get a S3 Development forum for this phone. We had a previous war about splitting the forums, but in this case, I think it's warranted. There's a decent difference here, so this distinction needs to be made and understood.
nickmv said:
I have requested that we get a S3 Development forum for this phone. We had a previous war about splitting the forums, but in this case, I think it's warranted. There's a decent difference here, so this distinction needs to be made and understood.
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Yeah, I agree with that, The previous split between US and EU was a bit un needed, However i think this S3 - S4 split is important
nickmv said:
I have requested that we get a S3 Development forum for this phone. We had a previous war about splitting the forums, but in this case, I think it's warranted. There's a decent difference here, so this distinction needs to be made and understood.
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Definitely, I don't want to get crippled/bricked/whatever because a dev forget to write S3 or to state clearly S3. If the Tegra and S4 One X forums are TOTALLY separate, we should at least get a sub forum for each S3 and S4!
azzledazzle said:
Yeah, I agree with that, The previous split between US and EU was a bit un needed, However i think this S3 - S4 split is important
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Canada isn't in EU -_-
NienorGT said:
Definitely, I don't want to get crippled/bricked/whatever because a dev forget to write S3 or to state clearly S3. If the Tegra and S4 One X forums are TOTALLY separate, we should at least get a sub forum for each S3 and S4!
Canada isn't in EU -_-
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We haven't forgotten about your square wheels.....
All jokes aside, yeah yeah yeah.....
Canada ?? Whats that
I meant the Tmobile & International split that we had.
onlinechi said:
Because you have not used a one S that's why you don't know. There is no way to tell physically whether the One S has an S3 or an S4 processor. No markings, no physical differences, no model name differences on the box, nothing at all. This means to most people, a one s is a one s, most people do not know there is even two versions until they flash it and its too late.
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Users should be aware of what they are doing... XDA and/ or the Dev aren't responsible for what you do with your phone!
onlinechi said:
Additionally...because literally everyone assumes there is only one version of the one s, nobody states that whether their rom or cwm is for the s3 or S4 version...making it a real bummer... but as of now, unless someone specifically mentions its for the s3, DO NOT try to root or flash an image for you one s, because literally none of them out there are for one s for now
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You can always ask politely on the specific thread... when it's clear, dev should mention it in OP title!
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If it becomes too big of a problem, Im sure we can get the mods to add a sub section. But they wont open one until we have some development and tutorials for it, Other wise it will be empty
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Agreed... so for now, be aware... i will take this to my other forum moderators to discuss and close this thread, keeping it sticky for others to be warned and to prevent an other war....
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All these provider-based development threads for the same phone . . . feels like fragmentation.
- ooofest
LTE =/= CDMA
different phones need different sub forums
aj8600 said:
LTE =/= CDMA
different phones need different sub forums
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+1
I support this subforum.
aj8600 said:
LTE =/= CDMA
different phones need different sub forums
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Sure, I understand, thanks. Was making a funny - hence my smiley - related to complaints on Android OS fragmentation, since the number of subforums looks (on the surface) like so many variations, now.
- ooofest
release
I notice hhgregg says launch date is the 12th and they are most likely correct but is it common for seperate retailers to have phone on the exact day the Verizon store has it? if I am correct don't target Walmart for example get the phones after the actual Verizon stores have it? Just a question
where's jt1134?
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thabless3d1 said:
I notice hhgregg says launch date is the 12th and they are most likely correct but is it common for seperate retailers to have phone on the exact day the Verizon store has it? if I am correct don't target Walmart for example get the phones after the actual Verizon stores have it? Just a question
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this is the development forums, release discussion belongs in the General section over HERE
aj8600 said:
LTE =/= CDMA
different phones need different sub forums
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whats this "=/="
its not in here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mathematical_symbols
you cant make up symbols
pitnefor said:
whats this "=/="
its not in here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_mathematical_symbols
you cant make up symbols
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=/= is ≠ is != ... but you already knew that.
Fragmentation is relative. Also a dumb term for dumb pple that have lost the arguement. A windows notepad doc has zero "fragmentation" what does that prove. And what a term to coin by steve jobs. Since its "fragmented" u say stevie, can i use a defragmenter. No wonder pple call rooting jail breaking on apple. First because theres no legitimate intelligent third party development and second because its a virtual prison cell. The apple wardens hate to see cracks in the concrete and bars. Apple will never match 4.0 however long they try. Cant compare a prison cell to a full stadium.
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I hope verizon users get some support to when my pre order arrives so far looks dead in this area.
bigwalt12 said:
I hope verizon users get some support to when my pre order arrives so far looks dead in this area.
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On or by July 9th/10th/11th, depending how soon your ordered.
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Here's hoping one of you talented developers can make a one-click root tool for the Verizon SGSIII. I have kind of fallen in love with the WugFresh toolkit for the GNex.
Just pre-ordered it tonight in time to keep my unlimited data, can't wait to get it in my hands and get a real taste of CM9 :thumbup: Gotta get TouchWiz off of there pronto...
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The root methods out there for the SG3 should work on the VZW variant right?
760hacker said:
The root methods out there for the SG3 should work on the VZW variant right?
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In general, yes. Since all US variants are using the same SOC, just different modems, there should be no issues with cross-pollenating root methods.
In practice, we won't know until things start getting into peoples' hands.
Personally, I'm finding it difficult to sit and wait until week-after-next (my estimated ship date is 7/11) to get mine.
AlexDeGruven said:
In general, yes. Since all US variants are using the same SOC, just different modems, there should be no issues with cross-pollenating root methods.
In practice, we won't know until things start getting into peoples' hands.
Personally, I'm finding it difficult to sit and wait until week-after-next (my estimated ship date is 7/11) to get mine.
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I can't wait to get mine.
Problem is, I'm spoiled. I have a Galaxy Nexus that I opened another line for, so I used the upgrade on my line that I got now in order to ensure I keep my unlimited data for another two years. My mom will be getting my Nexus.
Now here's the part where I'm spoiled- the SGSIII is a superior phone, that much most people can agree on. However, the SGSIII is running Touchwiz over ICS (4.0.4?). My Nexus is running stock 4.1. It's gonna take some getting used to going back to ICS, even if Jelly Bean has only been public for a day or so.
I believe the International S3's are able to get the 4.1 update now.
I don't see us being to far behind once we actually get our devices from big red.
Hello,
I'm thinking of getting the OnePlus One from this website. They're selling the OnePlus One Chinese model which doesn't have the Cyanogen logo and comes with ColorOS. It is possible to reflash to Cyanogenmod 11S. However my question is does all OnePlus One models allow us to unlock the "bootloader" (if there's any)? Also, what is the difference between the Chinese and the International version? Will I face any difference if I want to flash Roms, kernels and other Android goods? For example, the Xperia Z1 has different models like C6903 and C6906. Some people with the C6906 are unable to flash the C6903 due to difference of hardware. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Nevermind don't bother answering. Not much activity for the OPO so i'm not buying it.
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Pretty sure they'll be more activities once more devs gets their hands on it. Not enough people have it now due to the invite system.
does all OnePlus One models allow us to unlock the "bootloader" (if there's any)?
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Yes. It's factory-locked but can be unlocked with the "fastboot oem unlock" command. Note that this command will factory-reset your phone for safety reasons.
lso, what is the difference between the Chinese and the International version?
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Different HSPA and LTE bands tailored to the chinese market. It will work in some countries, but LTE will not work in many - most notably the US.
Will I face any difference if I want to flash Roms, kernels and other Android goods?
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No other hardware differences are known so they are 1:1 compatible in regards to software.
Not much activity for the OPO so i'm not buying it.
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While questions about the chinese model is not very appreciated on the OP forums, they do have tons about activity. See https://forums.oneplus.net
LeParkour012 said:
Nevermind don't bother answering. Not much activity for the OPO so i'm not buying it.
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Lol. The phone has barely even been released. This thing is gonna be one of the most active forums you can find in a couple of months.
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Hi guys,
I'm pretty new to all of this stuff, and when I had a motorola phone, I had seen threads about people switching the phone from an xt1092 to an xt1095. Is there anyway that something like that can be done with the S6? I'm getting the 920F tomorrow, and I know it works with t-mobile, from what I've managed to read about the bands available. Please let me know. Thanks!
Both phones are different. You won't be able to convert it. However, the 920F is the international version, the one with the most support. I would stick with it
virulentt said:
Both phones are different. You won't be able to convert it. However, the 920F is the international version, the one with the most support. I would stick with it
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That's awesome. I wasn't aware of that at all. Thanks for the quick response!
Also I messed up. I saw the sticky after I posted this. I'm really sorry.
I'm in Hong Kong right now and would like to be able to use VOLTE. Both models are on sd835, but the g9550 has 2 extra gigabyte of ram and dual SIM, also the modem might be different too. So I'm not too sure if this is possible.
seems no one has answered you as of yet. I am currently investigating to see if some parameters of devices rom could be edited. Not sure as of yet, but, will have an answer for you soon enough. will keep in touch.
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seems no one has answered you as of yet. I am currently investigating to see if some parameters of devices rom could be edited. Not sure as of yet, but, will have an answer for you soon enough. will keep in touch.
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Definitely not possible, completely different partition tables and the Chinese variant has some extra CDMA and LTE band support to be used in China only.
murtaza02 said:
Definitely not possible, completely different partition tables and the Chinese variant has some extra CDMA and LTE band support to be used in China only.
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Actually, China used the GL CP for an earlier firmware it has. Ive been seeing a lot of "cant do's," on this forum and am amazed at how people has set everything to be IMPOSSIBLE. I and another person thats part of these forums have been secretly investigating and am coming up with ideas on how to do things. you are correct as China uses only 2g and 3g on their basebands but are incorrect as to it not being able to work. Research and dig and dig and dig and you will then find the answer. And although my posts and thanks are low does not mean i am a noob. Name change to create a better name for myself with more logic and optimism to contribute what others may feel wont happen. Thank you and have a good evening and its not an attack but a formal gesture to do a bit more research before claiming not possible= impossible.
pocho_dobo said:
Actually, China used the GL CP for an earlier firmware it has. Ive been seeing a lot of "cant do's," on this forum and am amazed at how people has set everything to be IMPOSSIBLE. I and another person thats part of these forums have been secretly investigating and am coming up with ideas on how to do things. you are correct as China uses only 2g and 3g on their basebands but are incorrect as to it not being able to work. Research and dig and dig and dig and you will then find the answer. And although my posts and thanks are low does not mean i am a noob. Name change to create a better name for myself with more logic and optimism to contribute what others may feel wont happen. Thank you and have a good evening and its not an attack but a formal gesture to do a bit more research before claiming not possible= impossible.
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Didn't take it as an attack.
Would love to see it happen.
Keep updating this thread if you have any updates.
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murtaza02 said:
Didn't take it as an attack.
Would love to see it happen.
Keep updating this thread if you have any updates.
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pm'ing you with some info if you dont mind bro
pocho_dobo said:
pm'ing you with some info if you dont mind bro
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Not at all.
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To answer this question, "YES." Yes it is possible to flash the US version AP, CP( it works but has its issues and wouldn't recommend it) CSC should be able to install. !!NOTE!! Please do not attempt to flash BL as it has different settings scripted into it such as ram, storage,etc. G9550/128gb6gb ram G955U/64gb/4gb ram.
Also Note that if G9550 with G955U firmware boots properly, it has been said to be a bit choppier than normal. What is recommended is using the G955U1 firmware. Also, same as above is ONLY able to be flashed and updates with either version have to be done manually, I, have not tried this myself as i am in the process of this attempt. It has been discussed in foreign forums and has been done.
Please do not attempt if you are unable to come out of a brick or soft brick. I am in no way responsible if you mess up your phone. Good luck
tried flashing through normal odin and a no go. trying the modified Odin,but, before i do further readings say the AP and others have to be slightly modded. will look into this more once i finish up here.
Volte probably won't work if the carrier only supports g9550 though, yeah? Would probably give it a go on the weekend. Cheers.