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All these provider-based development threads for the same phone . . . feels like fragmentation.
- ooofest
LTE =/= CDMA
different phones need different sub forums
aj8600 said:
LTE =/= CDMA
different phones need different sub forums
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I support this subforum.
aj8600 said:
LTE =/= CDMA
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Sure, I understand, thanks. Was making a funny - hence my smiley - related to complaints on Android OS fragmentation, since the number of subforums looks (on the surface) like so many variations, now.
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I notice hhgregg says launch date is the 12th and they are most likely correct but is it common for seperate retailers to have phone on the exact day the Verizon store has it? if I am correct don't target Walmart for example get the phones after the actual Verizon stores have it? Just a question
where's jt1134?
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thabless3d1 said:
I notice hhgregg says launch date is the 12th and they are most likely correct but is it common for seperate retailers to have phone on the exact day the Verizon store has it? if I am correct don't target Walmart for example get the phones after the actual Verizon stores have it? Just a question
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this is the development forums, release discussion belongs in the General section over HERE
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whats this "=/="
its not in here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mathematical_symbols
you cant make up symbols
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whats this "=/="
its not in here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_mathematical_symbols
you cant make up symbols
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=/= is ≠ is != ... but you already knew that.
Fragmentation is relative. Also a dumb term for dumb pple that have lost the arguement. A windows notepad doc has zero "fragmentation" what does that prove. And what a term to coin by steve jobs. Since its "fragmented" u say stevie, can i use a defragmenter. No wonder pple call rooting jail breaking on apple. First because theres no legitimate intelligent third party development and second because its a virtual prison cell. The apple wardens hate to see cracks in the concrete and bars. Apple will never match 4.0 however long they try. Cant compare a prison cell to a full stadium.
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I hope verizon users get some support to when my pre order arrives so far looks dead in this area.
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I hope verizon users get some support to when my pre order arrives so far looks dead in this area.
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On or by July 9th/10th/11th, depending how soon your ordered.
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Here's hoping one of you talented developers can make a one-click root tool for the Verizon SGSIII. I have kind of fallen in love with the WugFresh toolkit for the GNex.
Just pre-ordered it tonight in time to keep my unlimited data, can't wait to get it in my hands and get a real taste of CM9 :thumbup: Gotta get TouchWiz off of there pronto...
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The root methods out there for the SG3 should work on the VZW variant right?
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The root methods out there for the SG3 should work on the VZW variant right?
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In general, yes. Since all US variants are using the same SOC, just different modems, there should be no issues with cross-pollenating root methods.
In practice, we won't know until things start getting into peoples' hands.
Personally, I'm finding it difficult to sit and wait until week-after-next (my estimated ship date is 7/11) to get mine.
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In general, yes. Since all US variants are using the same SOC, just different modems, there should be no issues with cross-pollenating root methods.
In practice, we won't know until things start getting into peoples' hands.
Personally, I'm finding it difficult to sit and wait until week-after-next (my estimated ship date is 7/11) to get mine.
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I can't wait to get mine.
Problem is, I'm spoiled. I have a Galaxy Nexus that I opened another line for, so I used the upgrade on my line that I got now in order to ensure I keep my unlimited data for another two years. My mom will be getting my Nexus.
Now here's the part where I'm spoiled- the SGSIII is a superior phone, that much most people can agree on. However, the SGSIII is running Touchwiz over ICS (4.0.4?). My Nexus is running stock 4.1. It's gonna take some getting used to going back to ICS, even if Jelly Bean has only been public for a day or so.
I believe the International S3's are able to get the 4.1 update now.
I don't see us being to far behind once we actually get our devices from big red.
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http://www.phonedog.com/2012/07/10/...-feature-unlockable-bootloader-599-price-tag/
Also spotted at Supercurio's twitter. https://twitter.com/supercurio
Now to decide if it is worth returning this one and just paying full price for an unlocked one.
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http://www.phonedog.com/2012/07/10/...-feature-unlockable-bootloader-599-price-tag/
Also spotted at Supercurio's twitter. https://twitter.com/supercurio
Now to decide if it is worth returning this one and just paying full price for an unlocked one.
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I'll be putting mine up on ebay, getting the unlocked one.
Was just about to post this. Wonder if this will aid in the bootloader issue as it atands. I don't have to he money for a 600 dollar phone haha.
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wow... this better not fly. how does their original statement about keeping their network secure apply to the rest of us then?
I'm sorry but this is utter garbage. If any of us had known this was the way things were going to play out we would have held out for this one in the first place. This is really just unbelievable. First we are led to believe our SG3 is going to be the same as the rest, only to find out we have a locked boot loader, now they dangle a $600 "developer" edition in front of us after most people interested in the developer aspect have already pre ordered the regular one? Am I the only one who is really ticked off about this?
Good for Samsung, Verizon still sucks. If I had $600 I would buy one.
I assume this device would ship minus the ongoing wifi notification?
I'm sorry but this is utter garbage. If any of us had known this was the way things were going to play out we would have held out for this one in the first place. This is really just unbelievable. First we are led to believe our SG3 is going to be the same as the rest, only to find out we have a locked boot loader, now they dangle a $600 "developer" edition in front of us after most people interested in the developer aspect have already pre ordered the regular one? Am I the only one who is really ticked off about this?
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Yep, this honestly just made me even more mad at them. Why can't they just give us an unlock tool just like htc where its in their system?
Will this impede the developer efforts being made to unlock the subsidized model or will the devs deem it a waste of time?
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Will this impede the developer efforts being made to unlock the subsidized model or will the devs deem it a waste of time?
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Not at all, it will just get us unlocked faster most likely.
I can't imagine it will... there will probably be a very small percentage of people who will own them so not really a huge point to dev for it. Hopefully it can help unlock though.
This is ridiculous.
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Will this impede the developer efforts being made to unlock the subsidized model or will the devs deem it a waste of time?
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I'm worried this will set us back. Why mess with locked if you can just buy unlocked? Except not all of us are gonna be able to just eBay ours to buy this, whenever its actually released. I'm hoping the devs don't abandon this project.
Well, I think developers would like to test out encrypting the bootloader, so it should DEFINITELY come with a tool to enable encryption of the bootloader. And it should also allow them to disable the encryption afterwards obviously... right?
Hopefully Samsung will do the right thing and leave a loophole for us.
I am slated to receive my SGS3 via FedEx tomorrow. I am currently a customer with Sprint, and I had planned to drop Sprint for Verizon upon activating this new phone. I am seriously having second thoughts now.
The biggest reason for choosing the SGS3 for me was because historically, Sammy hasn't restricted their devices by locking the bootloaders. I came from using two EVO devices (4G and 3D), which had increasingly difficult-to-crack bootloaders. Though I eventually achieved S-OFF with both devices, I wanted to support a company whose track record indicated community with developers, not antagonizing us.
I knew I wanted to drop Sprint, and I will never, ever consider AT&T again. So, I have my pick of two carriers to choose, and I chose Verizon based on their LTE network which is both new and fast in my area. I will probably hold my phone unopened and unactivated for a couple of days until I decide.
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I'm worried this will set us back. Why mess with locked if you can just buy unlocked? Except not all of us are gonna be able to just eBay ours to buy this, whenever its actually released. I'm hoping the devs don't abandon this project.
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I don't think they will. I've been going back and forth with keeping the phone or taking my chances with Sprint. I just got the phone today and decided I'll keep it on Verizon.
I think that there aren't many people out there ready to shell out 600 bucks for a phone. After all, look at how many "unlocked" phones you can buy, but yet people still get the contract phones. I have to agree with the other posters about how if anything, it will help us out with the locked phones. Who knows, maybe it's as simple as using the odin tool to flash a backup of an unlocked phone....considering they are probably the same model numbers.
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Good for Samsung, Verizon still sucks. If I had $600 I would buy one.
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they both suck if you ask me. they should have had this option available before everybody preordered one
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wow... this better not fly. how does their original statement about keeping their network secure apply to the rest of us then?
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i agree. this better not fly is right. verizon says its compromises security in the network and yet this happens. sammy and verizon are all about the money anymore screw both of them
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I'll be putting mine up on ebay, getting the unlocked one.
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value is going to go way way down lol
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Not at all, it will just get us unlocked faster most likely.
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Hope you are right. I hope we could take the unlocked Verizon bootloader from the dev phone and have the guy with JTAG equip flash it to this phone. I am clueless on this stuff but would be cool if it worked. I know I'd pay him to do it for sure.
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Once again guys let's not get our undies in a bundle. This could be the best news for us in the last few days. We might be able to use this...
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This is crazy, but I do not feel like returning mine and then going to buy another one. Why can't samsung just release an unlock code or something for everyone? You really want to get some customers PO'd do what exactly samsung is doing. I know once I am due for an upgrade again samsung will be down low on my list right above moto if they do this and do not give those of us who bought it an option to unlock.
Like the title states, Samsung will be releasing a Verizon Developer Edition GSIII with Unlockable Bootloader. Thoughts? Comments? Curse words?
I mainly want to know, will this impact our data plan if we purchase this product.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-offer-hacker-friendly-developer-edition-galaxy-s-iii?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
This pisses me off even more than the bootloader being locked in the first place. Not only would I have to sell my normal S3, I'd have to wait for one of the developer ones, most likely with a tiny stock, to ship to me. I don't know how Samsung could possibly think this is a valid solution after the majority of people who want to hack their phone bought it when it came out.
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Like the title states, Samsung will be releasing a Verizon Developer Edition GSIII with Unlockable Bootloader. Thoughts? Comments? Curse words?
I mainly want to know, will this impact our data plan if we purchase this product.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...galaxy-s-iii?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
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I want to know how soon it will be available. I would gladly sell my new S3 on Ebay to buy an unlocked one.
Any chance this could help people on here unlock the bootloader on the VZW S3?
I'm also slightly skeptical of this. I don't see this anywhere else but on some blogs. I can't find anything official from Samsung.
Hmm, according to CNet, Samsung sent this out as an email. That could be why there's no official release.
I also don't see that you can currently buy anything from http://developer.samsung.com
Ahh, verified https://twitter.com/SamsungJohn/status/222832375422402560
What a pile of steaming ****.
**** you, Verizon.
it should be noted guys that hardware wise its prolly gunna be the same.. ergo flashing the low level partitions will prolly "convert" ya
im just saying that based on speculation..
When?!
That's the question I have.
Also, will it have all the vzw junk and the annoying notification spam?
Can't wait for the answers.
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This is the most annoying frustrating thing. Do I return the phone before the 14 days are up now? I don't really want to spend double on the exact same phone... F u Verizon.
This could be good news for us. Looks like Samsung is getting some heat from us. I say keep the calls to Samsung going and also the facebook comments going. I keep telling that I'm returning because of this. They don't want to hear this..... Keep going guys...
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This is absolutely disgusting.
I don't know why people support this, or why people are assuming we'll magically be able to flash the developer firmware/bootloader to our standard Verizon Galaxy S3s.
Haven't read into it yet but is this version only available unsubsidized? Or can it be purchased at a subsidized price if I haven't upgraded yet?
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ExodusC said:
This is absolutely disgusting.
I don't know why people support this, or why people are assuming we'll magically be able to flash the developer firmware/bootloader to our standard Verizon Galaxy S3s.
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i would imagine that shot is at me, like i said just guessing i dont see any reason why not.
using something like dd to write every single partition to another device and basically "clone it" would then bypass the checks for certain software.
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i would imagine that shot is at me, like i said just guessing i dont see any reason why not.
using something like dd to write every single partition to another device and basically "clone it" would then bypass the checks for certain software.
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No, that wasn't directed at you or anyone in particular- I was more referring to the tons of support the model was getting in the IRC channel.
I don't understand it, because I seriously doubt it will help.
It's possible, but I'm really doubting it.
Regardless, unless it does prove as a method for allowing consumer-level devices to be unlocked, it is practically useless to almost all Galaxy S3 owners on Verizon.
I'm not bashing anyone, I'm just disgusted Samsung and/or Verizon would think this is an okay alternative.
Also, how about all that "unlocked devices will hurt the network" stuff from Verizon? I believe there's a bit of a contradiction here.
Edit: Just restating, no hard feelings towards you, shabbypenguin, or anyone else, it just blows my mind Samsung and Verizon would pull this.
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Haven't read into it yet but is this version only available unsubsidized? Or can it be purchased at a subsidized price if I haven't upgraded yet?
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You'll be buying directly from Samsung so there will be no subsidy. You'd have to sell your Verizon-bought phone and use the cash for this if you want to do it on the cheap.
So basically the phone doesn't come with a warranty why offer warranty on a phone that people want to hack Verizon u piss me off I'm on sprint and I probably hate Verizon for doing this just as much as u guys
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Giving my locked GS3 to my wife.
Well this will make my wife happy. As soon as the developer version is available I'm going to get it and give the locked GS3 I just got today to my wife.
One question though, assuming the locked version can be unlocked, does that mean development for both devices will be the same? Or is it possible that they will have to have separate development?
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So basically the phone doesn't come with a warranty why offer warranty on a phone that people want to hack Verizon u piss me off I'm on sprint and I probably hate Verizon for doing this just as much as u guys
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Every device has a warranty, until you unlock it. Technically. And unless they can see that it was ever unlocked when you lock it back up...it's all good
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756483
it worked!! lol j/k
Good bye unlimited to those who still had it. I'm going to ride out the one I have. Guess they will need to add another developer area for these devices.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756483
it worked!! lol j/k
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Haha! On a serious note, are you going to purchase this Developer Edition GSIII? I read the original article as I was waiting in line at Fed Ex to pick up my GSIII. I am seriously thinking of returning my GSIII and getting this.
I have already had the AT&T sgs3 but returned it because the user base is no were need Verizon's user base so I figured that we would ultimately have more roms kernels and themes. I am hoping that will still be the case. Either way I do not regret my decision because AT&T Lte is so tiny in comparison to Verizon lte when it comes to coverage.
Anyways back to the point of my thread.. the development for the international version of both the sgs2 and the sgs3 has always blown me away with the vast number of different roms, themes, and kernels! If anyone has every taken a peak over in the i9300 Dev forums they will know what I am talking about. Whenever I browse over there I find myself in a state of pure jealousy. The best of the best can be found there from roms like OMEGA to kernels like syliah kernel. I wish there was a way to easily port the international roms etc like entropy did for the AT&T sgs2 when he created the hellraiser packages which essentially swapped out the incompatible parts of a rom and replaced them with the compatible libs, modems etc that were meant for the AT&T sgs2. It would be nice if we could find with way to make it happen with our Verizon sgs3, not sure if that is possible though. Cross my fingers for this and definitely for an unlocked bootloader
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I agree. Even the sprint S3 has more roms than the Verizon S3. I can not find any popular ROMS that run on the Verizon S3.
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xWiZxKiDx said:
I agree. Even the sprint S3 has more roms than the Verizon S3. I can not find any popular ROMS that run on the Verizon S3.
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You should be greatful for the development that we have.
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I agree. Even the sprint S3 has more roms than the Verizon S3. I can not find any popular ROMS that run on the Verizon S3.
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You should be greatful for the development that we have.
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I was not complaining at all. I am very grateful but regardless i was comparing all us variants to internal and not us to us..
We'd have more development if Verizon cared about their customers more than their money.
I'm confident we'll have more development. Coming from an LG Revolution I'm very happy with the amount we have now even
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Unfortunately we will never see nearly as much development as we would if we had an unlocked bootloader.
I am fairly confident that the developers around here will conquer this and we will have an unlocked boot locker before too long.
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I am fairly confident that the developers around here will conquer this and we will have an unlocked boot locker before too long.
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If you have read any of the r&d threads that's highly unlikely.
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If you have read any of the r&d threads that's highly unlikely.
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Why do you say that? The people in the r&d threads are working as hard as they can to find paths that could work to get around the bootloader.
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Why do you say that? The people in the r&d threads are working as hard as they can to find paths that could work to get around the bootloader.
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I think he meant it is highly unlikely we will eventually have a unlocked bootloader, not a work-around.
Yea its not looking like the bootloader will be unlocked...thankfully with kexec its not that big of deal.
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I am fairly confident that the developers around here will conquer this and we will have an unlocked boot locker before too long.
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It doesn't even matter that the BL is locked we already have a"Work around" and can do anything an unlocked phone can do we just have a few extra steps.
They have more development because it is... Verizon in the US alone vs the rest of the world..
I'm not surprised that they have more development at all
I myself have just started dev on this phone with nothing released as of yet. It will come soon. I have friends in the same boat. Just be patient. Roms will start coming in heards now that there is a workaround.
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Yea its not looking like the bootloader will be unlocked...thankfully with kexec its not that big of deal.
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Also agree with this. With kexec it seems we have some decent flexibility already, with just a couple resets in startup which I consider a very small price to pay
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Yea its not looking like the bootloader will be unlocked...thankfully with kexec its not that big of deal.
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Dude, what are you talking about ???? It is a freaking big Deal!! Kexec is nothing else but a workaeound hopefully just as a temp fix until the bootloader is unlocked
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Dude, what are you talking about ???? It is a freaking big Deal!! Kexec is nothing else but a workaeound hopefully just as a temp fix until the bootloader is unlocked
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I'm not sure why it is such a "big deal" exactly. What we have basically gives us the abilities of an unlocked bootloader (not 100% but exactly what we need development-wise) and all we have to deal with is a few short reboots on bootup. I'd say this is just fine even if we never get a true unlock.
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I'm not sure why it is such a "big deal" exactly. What we have basically gives us the abilities of an unlocked bootloader (not 100% but exactly what we need development-wise) and all we have to deal with is a few short reboots on bootup. I'd say this is just fine even if we never get a true unlock.
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Having a locked bootloader is still very much a big deal. It slows development if anything and reduces the possibility of seeing ROMs other than stock TouchWiz because developers who don't like TW have to go through the trouble of learning how to correctly make a boot.img that is compatible with kexec or else face the consequences. I just learned this the hard way by hard bricking my phone while trying to build a working boot.img for Sense 4.0.
Trust me, we want an unlocked bootloader...
I think we have a smaller user base because of the costs associated with Verizon. Let's face it, we all know Verizon is hell of expensive. We pay the highest price for one reason, the 4G is blazing fast and we always have a good signal.
Good bye HTC Rezound, hello Galaxy S3!
I have started a petition on change.org to Samsung and AT&T to get the boot loader unlocked. I saw some other people petition other companies a little while ago to unlock the bootloader of a phone and when they reached the required amount of signatures they released a software update and BOOM it was unlocked. Sign it here if you like: https://www.change.org/petitions/sa...oot-loader-for-the-samsung-galaxy-s4-sgh-1337
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I believe there is already a petition for this same exact thing with ~383 signatures on it. http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
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Nice if only that would work with At&t great what you're trying but it will just get no where fast. unless you hold the CEO of Att hostage and make these demands probably not going to get to many results.
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Nice if only that would work with At&t great what you're trying but it will just get no where fast. unless you hold the CEO of Att hostage and make these demands probably not going to get to many results.
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Careful now! The NSA is now watching you for a comment like that
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Careful now! The NSA is now watching you for a comment like that
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tha guvment shut down so I might be ok.
Also, does anyone know who I should put in for the email contacts. I want to email both companies but don't know who I should email.
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I believe there is already a petition for this same exact thing with ~383 signatures on it. http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
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Best if we use this petition, there are more people who signed up already, including me.
Gfl
I emailed Samsung and got this reply
"We would like to inform you that the devices released through carriers are bootloader locked version’s. However, the devices with unlocked bootloader’s are available through Verizon and AT&T. Hence, we request you to check with the carriers for further information regarding the query."
Makes it sound like its the carriers are the ones requesting the boot-locks and that some of there phones aren't locked which is kinda weird. I'm going to contact att tomorrow and ask If I can trade my phone for one without a bootlock as I just bought it. I do not expect this to work but it worth trying and I want att to know that I do not like being sold lock down phones.
Anyways I signed both petitions
if I get any good news from att I will post an update, but more then likely I will just get the classic run around.
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I emailed Samsung and got this reply
"We would like to inform you that the devices released through carriers are bootloader locked version’s. However, the devices with unlocked bootloader’s are available through Verizon and AT&T. Hence, we request you to check with the carriers for further information regarding the query."
Makes it sound like its the carriers are the ones requesting the boot-locks and that some of there phones aren't locked which is kinda weird. I'm going to contact att tomorrow and ask If I can trade my phone for one without a bootlock as I just bought it. I do not expect this to work but it worth trying and I want att to know that I do not like being sold lock down phones.
Anyways I signed both petitions
if I get any good news from att I will post an update, but more then likely I will just get the classic run around.
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Samsung is completely correct and this has been known for a long time now. The unlocked devices they are talking about are the developer and GE phones. AT&T and Verizon branded S4s are bootloader locked. If you want to read through the forums, there is a lot more information available about all of this. Good luck.
signed, hope they release an unlock soon, i guess this may happen only later when a new flagship arrives
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Also, does anyone know who I should put in for the email contacts. I want to email both companies but don't know who I should email.
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[email protected]
CEO and chairman of ATT. This is the CEO of ATT, not just ATT wireless, be calm, be professional and be polite. Nothing a boss hates more than several emails from actual rational customers about how his subordinates are doing their job.
Emailing him and blasting twitter/facebook is the best way to get a response. Unfortunately you need MANY people doing it at once. However, samsung devices probably have the biggest userbase besides iphone on ATT. The same issues we have are also present on the Note 3 and other samsung devices no? They are all locked down too right? Getting everyone to blast ATT calmly, rationally, professionally, and most important, PUBLICLY, will get a response if the number of comments is high enough. About once a week I have been tweeting at all the different ATT accounts and emailing various executives and samsung. They just need enough people to understand that people really don't like it being locked down.
Just wondering
Do they have to unlock the boot loader when you have had your phone for 2 years? Seems like at that point I have paid back the subsidy and the phone should be mine. I am glad to see things moving away from subsidized phones. God I hate Samsung. Their touchwiz interface is the worst piece of trash in the world. All their junk software sucking my battery dry.
alderran said:
Do they have to unlock the boot loader when you have had your phone for 2 years? Seems like at that point I have paid back the subsidy and the phone should be mine. I am glad to see things moving away from subsidized phones. God I hate Samsung. Their touchwiz interface is the worst piece of trash in the world. All their junk software sucking my battery dry.
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They don't have to ever unlock it. Samsung isn't really the enemy here, mostly AT&T since they're the one locking it. And I've run this battery for days on the stock system.
DeadlySin9 said:
They don't have to ever unlock it. Samsung isn't really the enemy here, mostly AT&T since they're the one locking it. And I've run this battery for days on the stock system.
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I took my phone off the charger about an hour ago to read a text message. I haven't done anything with it. Just checked the battery is down to 93%. If I leave it off charge it will be dead in the morning. It wasn't like this before the 4.3 update.
I know AT&T is the enemy, but what choice. Verizon is also the enemy. T-Mobile is better, but the coverage is not good.
Not like there is much of a choice. Actually I have no choice because my work place only allows us to use Verizon or AT&T. They both suck.
However I am going to switch my wife over to T-Mobile when her contract is up this summer.
Still waiting on MF3
I still haven't updated to MK2 from MF3 fearing I will not be able to go back if any solution for bypassing the bootloader comes up for MF3.. I had signed up for the petitions long back and now it is good to see that the numbers have increased since then. However I dont think anything will be done by AT&T even after the petitions reach the goal..
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I still haven't updated to MK2 from MF3 fearing I will not be able to go back if any solution for bypassing the bootloader comes up for MF3.. I had signed up for the petitions long back and now it is good to see that the numbers have increased since then. However I dont think anything will be done by AT&T even after the petitions reach the goal..
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the easiest route would be to trade for a tmobile galaxy s4 or if you have the disposable income just buy the i9505, i kinda agree no matter how many petitions we sign it will never be enough, so much for android being the " open platform " that it was supposed to be.
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davebegue said:
Will that international one work on atnt 4glte? I thought it was different than the atnt version
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I'm not sure, but the international may not have the same radio bands for LTE. You'd have to compare them.
What I'm confused about is, how isn't there a way to "ODIN" our phones with the GPE edition stock ROM/Bootloader/etc. Isn't the hardware identical other than the factory software that's loaded on it?
Then again, that would be too easy..
Its possible I missed the section where the discussion is going on but are there any developers working on root currently?
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Its possible I missed the section where the discussion is going on but are there any developers working on root currently?
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I think all root discussion is going on in the Note 4 Developers ONLY section...it is probably fair to assume any root method found for the Note 4 and S5 would work for the S6. But still no major progress. As in the past a root method will probably come out of nowhere from a developer that rarely posts.
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I think all root discussion is going on in the Note 4 Developers ONLY section...it is probably fair to assume any root method found for the Note 4 and S5 would work for the S6. But still no major progress. As in the past a root method will probably come out of nowhere from a developer that rarely posts.
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Yeah, this kind of sucks. Every phone I've ever owned I have always rooted and I really miss some of the root functionality.
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Yeah, this kind of sucks. Every phone I've ever owned I have always rooted and I really miss some of the root functionality.
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Time to switch from Verizon or AT&T then if you must stay with a Samsung phone. They got a pretty good lock on their security software so far.
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Time to switch from Verizon or AT&T then if you must stay with a Samsung phone. They got a pretty good lock on their security software so far.
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I know, but T-Mobile's coverage sucks compared to Verizon....ugh. I would switch to them in a second if it was better. I have Verizon for my business and switching to T-Mobile could save me about $3000 a year over Verizon.
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I know, but T-Mobile's coverage sucks compared to Verizon....ugh. I would switch to them in a second if it was better. I have Verizon for my business and switching to T-Mobile could save me about $3000 a year over Verizon.
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Then perhaps trying a less secure Verizon phone if you do not have T-Mo coverage, like HTC. I think the M9 still cannot be rooted or S-OFF but the M8 can.
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Time to switch from Verizon or AT&T then if you must stay with a Samsung phone. They got a pretty good lock on their security software so far.
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This is correct. Verizon s6 will be much like the Note 4, it will never see root. Sad, but true.
And still no word on a developer edition :/
We may be hoping for another futex/towelroot type of kernel level exploit that can leverage root for multiple devices. They don't come along every day but they do come along on occasion. I'd be surprised if there's a targeted root exploit for Samsung devices but I'd be thrilled to be wrong on that.
As for the bootloader...I'll be planning on never. Somebody (or a team of somebody's) might get it, but I won't blame them when they sell it for far more coin than they'll make from some partially paid bounties.
The Note 4 and S6 have different SoCs so its not the same at all. Besides these differences, alas there will be no bootloader unlock.
my 2 cents
On a general basis, i think the galaxy s devices are a little more popular than the note series, and the s6 is proving to be more popular than the s5. So hopefully with a larger following will come increased chances of root....hopefully
I will say this though, the S6 has been the first device I've owned that i didn't want to root right out of the box. Root at this point would just be nice to have for a little more control over the device.
Verizon root
I would pay 500 bucks to a dev that could root this phone, to bad I dont know any personally.:crying: