Like the title states, Samsung will be releasing a Verizon Developer Edition GSIII with Unlockable Bootloader. Thoughts? Comments? Curse words?
I mainly want to know, will this impact our data plan if we purchase this product.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-offer-hacker-friendly-developer-edition-galaxy-s-iii?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
This pisses me off even more than the bootloader being locked in the first place. Not only would I have to sell my normal S3, I'd have to wait for one of the developer ones, most likely with a tiny stock, to ship to me. I don't know how Samsung could possibly think this is a valid solution after the majority of people who want to hack their phone bought it when it came out.
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Like the title states, Samsung will be releasing a Verizon Developer Edition GSIII with Unlockable Bootloader. Thoughts? Comments? Curse words?
I mainly want to know, will this impact our data plan if we purchase this product.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...galaxy-s-iii?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
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I want to know how soon it will be available. I would gladly sell my new S3 on Ebay to buy an unlocked one.
Any chance this could help people on here unlock the bootloader on the VZW S3?
I'm also slightly skeptical of this. I don't see this anywhere else but on some blogs. I can't find anything official from Samsung.
Hmm, according to CNet, Samsung sent this out as an email. That could be why there's no official release.
I also don't see that you can currently buy anything from http://developer.samsung.com
Ahh, verified https://twitter.com/SamsungJohn/status/222832375422402560
What a pile of steaming ****.
**** you, Verizon.
it should be noted guys that hardware wise its prolly gunna be the same.. ergo flashing the low level partitions will prolly "convert" ya
im just saying that based on speculation..
When?!
That's the question I have.
Also, will it have all the vzw junk and the annoying notification spam?
Can't wait for the answers.
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This is the most annoying frustrating thing. Do I return the phone before the 14 days are up now? I don't really want to spend double on the exact same phone... F u Verizon.
This could be good news for us. Looks like Samsung is getting some heat from us. I say keep the calls to Samsung going and also the facebook comments going. I keep telling that I'm returning because of this. They don't want to hear this..... Keep going guys...
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This is absolutely disgusting.
I don't know why people support this, or why people are assuming we'll magically be able to flash the developer firmware/bootloader to our standard Verizon Galaxy S3s.
Haven't read into it yet but is this version only available unsubsidized? Or can it be purchased at a subsidized price if I haven't upgraded yet?
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ExodusC said:
This is absolutely disgusting.
I don't know why people support this, or why people are assuming we'll magically be able to flash the developer firmware/bootloader to our standard Verizon Galaxy S3s.
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i would imagine that shot is at me, like i said just guessing i dont see any reason why not.
using something like dd to write every single partition to another device and basically "clone it" would then bypass the checks for certain software.
shabbypenguin said:
i would imagine that shot is at me, like i said just guessing i dont see any reason why not.
using something like dd to write every single partition to another device and basically "clone it" would then bypass the checks for certain software.
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No, that wasn't directed at you or anyone in particular- I was more referring to the tons of support the model was getting in the IRC channel.
I don't understand it, because I seriously doubt it will help.
It's possible, but I'm really doubting it.
Regardless, unless it does prove as a method for allowing consumer-level devices to be unlocked, it is practically useless to almost all Galaxy S3 owners on Verizon.
I'm not bashing anyone, I'm just disgusted Samsung and/or Verizon would think this is an okay alternative.
Also, how about all that "unlocked devices will hurt the network" stuff from Verizon? I believe there's a bit of a contradiction here.
Edit: Just restating, no hard feelings towards you, shabbypenguin, or anyone else, it just blows my mind Samsung and Verizon would pull this.
DrkGhst87 said:
Haven't read into it yet but is this version only available unsubsidized? Or can it be purchased at a subsidized price if I haven't upgraded yet?
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You'll be buying directly from Samsung so there will be no subsidy. You'd have to sell your Verizon-bought phone and use the cash for this if you want to do it on the cheap.
So basically the phone doesn't come with a warranty why offer warranty on a phone that people want to hack Verizon u piss me off I'm on sprint and I probably hate Verizon for doing this just as much as u guys
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Giving my locked GS3 to my wife.
Well this will make my wife happy. As soon as the developer version is available I'm going to get it and give the locked GS3 I just got today to my wife.
One question though, assuming the locked version can be unlocked, does that mean development for both devices will be the same? Or is it possible that they will have to have separate development?
Rev3ge07 said:
So basically the phone doesn't come with a warranty why offer warranty on a phone that people want to hack Verizon u piss me off I'm on sprint and I probably hate Verizon for doing this just as much as u guys
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Every device has a warranty, until you unlock it. Technically. And unless they can see that it was ever unlocked when you lock it back up...it's all good
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756483
it worked!! lol j/k
Good bye unlimited to those who still had it. I'm going to ride out the one I have. Guess they will need to add another developer area for these devices.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756483
it worked!! lol j/k
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Haha! On a serious note, are you going to purchase this Developer Edition GSIII? I read the original article as I was waiting in line at Fed Ex to pick up my GSIII. I am seriously thinking of returning my GSIII and getting this.
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look at this...
and he's asking EUR 297,57 for it.
new price of NS is 230 if not less..
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/Samsung-Goog...ile_Phones&hash=item35b72267f0#ht_5017wt_1270
so does this also count as selling the rom with it?
as far as i know. rom selling is kinda forbidden right?
Not cool
Free ZOOK!
flag the douche
I can't really see any problem with this, looks like he's just selling his personal phone which happens to be currently running an ICS rom...
If people want to bid stupid amounts for it then that's their problem.
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I can't really see any problem with this, looks like he's just selling his personal phone which happens to be currently running an ICS rom...
If people want to bid stupid amounts for it then that's their problem.
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This.
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Psych0Chimp said:
I can't really see any problem with this, looks like he's just selling his personal phone which happens to be currently running an ICS rom...
If people want to bid stupid amounts for it then that's their problem.
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no no no.he isnt selling his phoen that just happend to have ICS..
he is advertising the ICS on his phone.
thus making ICS rom part of the selling point.
meaning he is asking money for the rom and the device. not just the device.
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no no no.he isnt selling his phoen that just happend to have ICS..
he is advertising the ICS on his phone.
thus making ICS rom part of the selling point.
meaning he is asking money for the rom and the device. not just the device.
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That makes no sense. What's wrong with selling the phone and advertising the ROM it's running? It's like being mad at someone for selling the car and advertising the stereo system in it. People need to get over how people sell their things or those that charge to root phones.
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I'm not sure what the problem is. Back in my Blackberry days I sold 9700s with leaked OS 6 because I figures some potential buyers would prefer to have it pre installed instead of doing it themselves.
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no good for me.
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its like complaining that someone is advertising the modded parts on their car they're trying to sell
He clearly says it's an AOSP based rom and not the official ICS for NS.
He does set a stupidly high price for it, but if that's what he want to, he should be able to do that without people complaining about it.
In fact, I would be rather pissed if I bought the phone and found out custom roms were installed, and the one who sold it didn't say anything about it.
your guys are missing the point.
What if a guy asked money for the APP/Rom you made and put your hard work in?
get it now?
its actually one of the rule's here on XDA that you should not ask money for somebody's work thats not yours.
and he clearly states that your also patying for the ICS..
We get it but, unless the guy starts selling hundreds with xda ROMS as a selling point, it's not a big deal!
There's a few Nexus S on Craigslist that have ICS roms. At least in my area.
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I'm not sure what the problem is. Back in my Blackberry days I sold 9700s with leaked OS 6 because I figures some potential buyers would prefer to have it pre installed instead of doing it themselves.
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you sold a phone with a leaked factory software. He is selling a phone with a hacked together unfinished version of the software as a factory software. If you don't understand the difference then there isn't much hope for humanity.
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your guys are missing the point.
What if a guy asked money for the APP/Rom you made and put your hard work in?
get it now?
its actually one of the rule's here on XDA that you should not ask money for somebody's work thats not yours.
and he clearly states that your also patying for the ICS..
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This has little to know bearing on your life, so I suggest you just drop it. Its not going to change the fact and whether you agree with what this guys doing or not, its not something to get worked up over.
He is selling a NS unlocked, rooted, with ICS ROM. The value he is adding is the convenience of not having to unlock and install the ICS rom yourself. Maybe not worth much to you but maybe not going through that trouble is worth the price for some one else.
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your guys are missing the point.
What if a guy asked money for the APP/Rom you made and put your hard work in?
get it now?
its actually one of the rule's here on XDA that you should not ask money for somebody's work thats not yours.
and he clearly states that your also patying for the ICS..
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Have you ever sold a car? You didn't invent the car so aren't you asking for money for someone else's work?
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ghost010 said:
What if a guy asked money for the APP/Rom you made and put your hard work in?
get it now?
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And that's not the case here, is it? It's not like they are offering you a link to download an ICS ROM - They are offering a SINGLE phone that just happens to be running it.
If they want promote the sale on the fact they have ICS installed on it, then good for them, it's about the only way they can justify a high price!
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Have you ever sold a car? You didn't invent the car so aren't you asking for money for someone else's work?
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ehm? thats not the same?
or are you saying he made the nexus s? humm??
You All stil dont understand it..
but never mind.
you people trying to defend him,instead of raising awarnes.
There is a reason why allot of free software have a " do not redistribute" or a notice like" if you payd for this than you have been bla bla,and report the seller to us" notifications/read me files...
I can put it in 100 difrent ways. but you guy's stil dont understand it.and are to ignorand.
but i geus your part of the piracy groep that roam on android and pc.
Any rom here onXDA are non profit software because they use parts of code that should not be sold to any one.
He is asking Profit for the software he has on his NS.
but sure. you people dont get that.
and instead of making people aware,you people are just defending him./
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/07/10/...-feature-unlockable-bootloader-599-price-tag/
Also spotted at Supercurio's twitter. https://twitter.com/supercurio
Now to decide if it is worth returning this one and just paying full price for an unlocked one.
buur11 said:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/07/10/...-feature-unlockable-bootloader-599-price-tag/
Also spotted at Supercurio's twitter. https://twitter.com/supercurio
Now to decide if it is worth returning this one and just paying full price for an unlocked one.
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I'll be putting mine up on ebay, getting the unlocked one.
Was just about to post this. Wonder if this will aid in the bootloader issue as it atands. I don't have to he money for a 600 dollar phone haha.
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wow... this better not fly. how does their original statement about keeping their network secure apply to the rest of us then?
I'm sorry but this is utter garbage. If any of us had known this was the way things were going to play out we would have held out for this one in the first place. This is really just unbelievable. First we are led to believe our SG3 is going to be the same as the rest, only to find out we have a locked boot loader, now they dangle a $600 "developer" edition in front of us after most people interested in the developer aspect have already pre ordered the regular one? Am I the only one who is really ticked off about this?
Good for Samsung, Verizon still sucks. If I had $600 I would buy one.
I assume this device would ship minus the ongoing wifi notification?
I'm sorry but this is utter garbage. If any of us had known this was the way things were going to play out we would have held out for this one in the first place. This is really just unbelievable. First we are led to believe our SG3 is going to be the same as the rest, only to find out we have a locked boot loader, now they dangle a $600 "developer" edition in front of us after most people interested in the developer aspect have already pre ordered the regular one? Am I the only one who is really ticked off about this?
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Yep, this honestly just made me even more mad at them. Why can't they just give us an unlock tool just like htc where its in their system?
Will this impede the developer efforts being made to unlock the subsidized model or will the devs deem it a waste of time?
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Will this impede the developer efforts being made to unlock the subsidized model or will the devs deem it a waste of time?
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Not at all, it will just get us unlocked faster most likely.
I can't imagine it will... there will probably be a very small percentage of people who will own them so not really a huge point to dev for it. Hopefully it can help unlock though.
This is ridiculous.
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Will this impede the developer efforts being made to unlock the subsidized model or will the devs deem it a waste of time?
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I'm worried this will set us back. Why mess with locked if you can just buy unlocked? Except not all of us are gonna be able to just eBay ours to buy this, whenever its actually released. I'm hoping the devs don't abandon this project.
Well, I think developers would like to test out encrypting the bootloader, so it should DEFINITELY come with a tool to enable encryption of the bootloader. And it should also allow them to disable the encryption afterwards obviously... right?
Hopefully Samsung will do the right thing and leave a loophole for us.
I am slated to receive my SGS3 via FedEx tomorrow. I am currently a customer with Sprint, and I had planned to drop Sprint for Verizon upon activating this new phone. I am seriously having second thoughts now.
The biggest reason for choosing the SGS3 for me was because historically, Sammy hasn't restricted their devices by locking the bootloaders. I came from using two EVO devices (4G and 3D), which had increasingly difficult-to-crack bootloaders. Though I eventually achieved S-OFF with both devices, I wanted to support a company whose track record indicated community with developers, not antagonizing us.
I knew I wanted to drop Sprint, and I will never, ever consider AT&T again. So, I have my pick of two carriers to choose, and I chose Verizon based on their LTE network which is both new and fast in my area. I will probably hold my phone unopened and unactivated for a couple of days until I decide.
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I'm worried this will set us back. Why mess with locked if you can just buy unlocked? Except not all of us are gonna be able to just eBay ours to buy this, whenever its actually released. I'm hoping the devs don't abandon this project.
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I don't think they will. I've been going back and forth with keeping the phone or taking my chances with Sprint. I just got the phone today and decided I'll keep it on Verizon.
I think that there aren't many people out there ready to shell out 600 bucks for a phone. After all, look at how many "unlocked" phones you can buy, but yet people still get the contract phones. I have to agree with the other posters about how if anything, it will help us out with the locked phones. Who knows, maybe it's as simple as using the odin tool to flash a backup of an unlocked phone....considering they are probably the same model numbers.
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Good for Samsung, Verizon still sucks. If I had $600 I would buy one.
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they both suck if you ask me. they should have had this option available before everybody preordered one
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wow... this better not fly. how does their original statement about keeping their network secure apply to the rest of us then?
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i agree. this better not fly is right. verizon says its compromises security in the network and yet this happens. sammy and verizon are all about the money anymore screw both of them
blockhead42 said:
I'll be putting mine up on ebay, getting the unlocked one.
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value is going to go way way down lol
tonu42 said:
Not at all, it will just get us unlocked faster most likely.
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Hope you are right. I hope we could take the unlocked Verizon bootloader from the dev phone and have the guy with JTAG equip flash it to this phone. I am clueless on this stuff but would be cool if it worked. I know I'd pay him to do it for sure.
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Once again guys let's not get our undies in a bundle. This could be the best news for us in the last few days. We might be able to use this...
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This is crazy, but I do not feel like returning mine and then going to buy another one. Why can't samsung just release an unlock code or something for everyone? You really want to get some customers PO'd do what exactly samsung is doing. I know once I am due for an upgrade again samsung will be down low on my list right above moto if they do this and do not give those of us who bought it an option to unlock.
okay so by now I have learned that it might not just be htcs fault but is most likely atts fault that were not getting the unlocked boot loader or the proper sources to be released
Why is att doing this? There's nothing positive for them or HTC in doing this
Is there anything we can do, does any one have connections with people in bigger companies that make this very public and sound like the huge issue that it is
Is there any else that we can do besides for that?
I think it would just be a good idea to brainstorm on wht to do to fix this dilemma
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Vote with your dollars cancel service and tell them why.
Source has been released except for the most recent updates. Those will be released eventually.
I doubt AT&T is going to budge on the locked bootloader because the number of people who really care probably represent about 1% of their HOX customers.
If you're intent on pushing, the place to start would be making a stink on AT&T's social media pages.
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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Well, if you have the money to start a class action against them, sure.
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Well, if you have the money to start a class action against them, sure.
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Doesn't the AT&T contract say you can't sue them?
I think you can still take them to small court which is limited to a few thousand dollars.
tony_5309 said:
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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I'd probably just punch him in the Face
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If you guys really want to try, just go to small claims courts claiming that you were convinced that you had the ability to unlock the bootloader, and use Peter Chou's statement on unlocking bootloaders as evidence, and then say that you couldn't unlock it. If you lose, nothing happens to you. If you win, and a lot of other people win, AT&T is going to be bleeding money.
karan1203 said:
Doesn't the AT&T contract say you can't sue them?
I think you can still take them to small court which is limited to a few thousand dollars.
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I've never seen anything saying you couldn't sue AT&T. A Class action would be there to reverse their grip on a handset, which is HTC's flagship in North America (and arguably, the best phone out right now). It hurts devs more than anything.
tony_5309 said:
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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We might, but anyone that is getting this phone now with the new update is screwed for a while. And it's not fair that they have to wait just because these companies are being dumb.
I suggest we all get on a bus, go to Houston where AT&T is based and just drop our pants and leave them something at their front entrance....
Just kidding...
Buy samsung. Let htc go bankrupt!
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Buy samsung. Let htc go bankrupt!
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its not HTC its ATT so that comment really didnt help. ATT wants the locked bootloader on all thier flagship phones. The dont want people to do tethering, and they want to be able to force you to keep that ****ty bloatware for the possible sales they would get from it. its flat out ATT greed that has them keeping the bootloader locked down. Unfortunatly right now HTC doesnt have the pull Samsung does to force ATT hand.
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Unfortunatly right now HTC doesnt have the pull Samsung does to force ATT hand.
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Then they better have the pull because people pay high amount of $ for their device and do not care whether they have the pull or not. Maybe htc should call themselves apple2 since all I read about them is giving devs hard time not releasing sources etc while on their webpage they claim to be dev friendly which is total bull****.
This new software update isn't good. Patching the hboot, no root, no bootloader unlock. We shouldn't expect any new developers developing for this phone. AT&T sealed that deal for us when they release 2.20.
SkizzMcNizz said:
This new software update isn't good. Patching the hboot, no root, no bootloader unlock. We shouldn't expect any new developers developing for this phone. AT&T sealed that deal for us when they release 2.20.
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yep and the att guy at the store updated my wifes before giving it to her and i asked him why he said they were told they have to do the update on all HTC One X they sell. i returned it and ordered from amazon hoping to get 1.85 on the phone. This was earlier today when she wanted to upgrade to the HOX too.
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We might, but anyone that is getting this phone now with the new update is screwed for a while. And it's not fair that they have to wait just because these companies are being dumb.
I suggest we all get on a bus, go to Houston where AT&T is based and just drop our pants and leave them something at their front entrance....
Just kidding...
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LoL! This is true..
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Now, who's coding the HBoot? It can't be AT&T, can it? I would think it would have to be HTC because no one at AT&T is smart enough to do this...
Edit: As well, just checked HTC's site... the rom is listed for manual download. Perhaps a dev can reverse engineer it?
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Now, who's coding the HBoot? It can't be AT&T, can it? I would think it would have to be HTC because no one at AT&T is smart enough to do this...
Edit: As well, just checked HTC's site... the rom is listed for manual download. Perhaps a dev can reverse engineer it?
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Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
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Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
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Has anyone who's taken the ota and kept root confirmed which partitions are/aren't WP?
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Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
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I hear ya man. ****, I should have got an iPhone. At least I could pester Siri about her hot sister or ask advice on hiding bodies. Even iPhones are having better luck getting unlocked.
Regardless, I do love this phone. Probably the best phone since the Nexus One.
Like you said though, just a matter of time, and, will we have bootloader unlock access? I'm going to be hopeful. For anyone who buys their device with 2.20 loaded, it would really suck to not be able to at least achieve root.
Question, gunny... do you know (assuming one has root and TBU), is there a way to freeze the updates? Is their a system app or process that could be frozen so that OTA's never show again?
I have started a petition on change.org to Samsung and AT&T to get the boot loader unlocked. I saw some other people petition other companies a little while ago to unlock the bootloader of a phone and when they reached the required amount of signatures they released a software update and BOOM it was unlocked. Sign it here if you like: https://www.change.org/petitions/sa...oot-loader-for-the-samsung-galaxy-s4-sgh-1337
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I believe there is already a petition for this same exact thing with ~383 signatures on it. http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
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Nice if only that would work with At&t great what you're trying but it will just get no where fast. unless you hold the CEO of Att hostage and make these demands probably not going to get to many results.
dligon said:
Nice if only that would work with At&t great what you're trying but it will just get no where fast. unless you hold the CEO of Att hostage and make these demands probably not going to get to many results.
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Careful now! The NSA is now watching you for a comment like that
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Careful now! The NSA is now watching you for a comment like that
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tha guvment shut down so I might be ok.
Also, does anyone know who I should put in for the email contacts. I want to email both companies but don't know who I should email.
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I believe there is already a petition for this same exact thing with ~383 signatures on it. http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
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Best if we use this petition, there are more people who signed up already, including me.
Gfl
I emailed Samsung and got this reply
"We would like to inform you that the devices released through carriers are bootloader locked version’s. However, the devices with unlocked bootloader’s are available through Verizon and AT&T. Hence, we request you to check with the carriers for further information regarding the query."
Makes it sound like its the carriers are the ones requesting the boot-locks and that some of there phones aren't locked which is kinda weird. I'm going to contact att tomorrow and ask If I can trade my phone for one without a bootlock as I just bought it. I do not expect this to work but it worth trying and I want att to know that I do not like being sold lock down phones.
Anyways I signed both petitions
if I get any good news from att I will post an update, but more then likely I will just get the classic run around.
alkmie said:
I emailed Samsung and got this reply
"We would like to inform you that the devices released through carriers are bootloader locked version’s. However, the devices with unlocked bootloader’s are available through Verizon and AT&T. Hence, we request you to check with the carriers for further information regarding the query."
Makes it sound like its the carriers are the ones requesting the boot-locks and that some of there phones aren't locked which is kinda weird. I'm going to contact att tomorrow and ask If I can trade my phone for one without a bootlock as I just bought it. I do not expect this to work but it worth trying and I want att to know that I do not like being sold lock down phones.
Anyways I signed both petitions
if I get any good news from att I will post an update, but more then likely I will just get the classic run around.
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Samsung is completely correct and this has been known for a long time now. The unlocked devices they are talking about are the developer and GE phones. AT&T and Verizon branded S4s are bootloader locked. If you want to read through the forums, there is a lot more information available about all of this. Good luck.
signed, hope they release an unlock soon, i guess this may happen only later when a new flagship arrives
drucquerkellan said:
Also, does anyone know who I should put in for the email contacts. I want to email both companies but don't know who I should email.
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[email protected]
CEO and chairman of ATT. This is the CEO of ATT, not just ATT wireless, be calm, be professional and be polite. Nothing a boss hates more than several emails from actual rational customers about how his subordinates are doing their job.
Emailing him and blasting twitter/facebook is the best way to get a response. Unfortunately you need MANY people doing it at once. However, samsung devices probably have the biggest userbase besides iphone on ATT. The same issues we have are also present on the Note 3 and other samsung devices no? They are all locked down too right? Getting everyone to blast ATT calmly, rationally, professionally, and most important, PUBLICLY, will get a response if the number of comments is high enough. About once a week I have been tweeting at all the different ATT accounts and emailing various executives and samsung. They just need enough people to understand that people really don't like it being locked down.
Just wondering
Do they have to unlock the boot loader when you have had your phone for 2 years? Seems like at that point I have paid back the subsidy and the phone should be mine. I am glad to see things moving away from subsidized phones. God I hate Samsung. Their touchwiz interface is the worst piece of trash in the world. All their junk software sucking my battery dry.
alderran said:
Do they have to unlock the boot loader when you have had your phone for 2 years? Seems like at that point I have paid back the subsidy and the phone should be mine. I am glad to see things moving away from subsidized phones. God I hate Samsung. Their touchwiz interface is the worst piece of trash in the world. All their junk software sucking my battery dry.
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They don't have to ever unlock it. Samsung isn't really the enemy here, mostly AT&T since they're the one locking it. And I've run this battery for days on the stock system.
DeadlySin9 said:
They don't have to ever unlock it. Samsung isn't really the enemy here, mostly AT&T since they're the one locking it. And I've run this battery for days on the stock system.
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I took my phone off the charger about an hour ago to read a text message. I haven't done anything with it. Just checked the battery is down to 93%. If I leave it off charge it will be dead in the morning. It wasn't like this before the 4.3 update.
I know AT&T is the enemy, but what choice. Verizon is also the enemy. T-Mobile is better, but the coverage is not good.
Not like there is much of a choice. Actually I have no choice because my work place only allows us to use Verizon or AT&T. They both suck.
However I am going to switch my wife over to T-Mobile when her contract is up this summer.
Still waiting on MF3
I still haven't updated to MK2 from MF3 fearing I will not be able to go back if any solution for bypassing the bootloader comes up for MF3.. I had signed up for the petitions long back and now it is good to see that the numbers have increased since then. However I dont think anything will be done by AT&T even after the petitions reach the goal..
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I still haven't updated to MK2 from MF3 fearing I will not be able to go back if any solution for bypassing the bootloader comes up for MF3.. I had signed up for the petitions long back and now it is good to see that the numbers have increased since then. However I dont think anything will be done by AT&T even after the petitions reach the goal..
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the easiest route would be to trade for a tmobile galaxy s4 or if you have the disposable income just buy the i9505, i kinda agree no matter how many petitions we sign it will never be enough, so much for android being the " open platform " that it was supposed to be.
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davebegue said:
Will that international one work on atnt 4glte? I thought it was different than the atnt version
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I'm not sure, but the international may not have the same radio bands for LTE. You'd have to compare them.
What I'm confused about is, how isn't there a way to "ODIN" our phones with the GPE edition stock ROM/Bootloader/etc. Isn't the hardware identical other than the factory software that's loaded on it?
Then again, that would be too easy..
I've had the developer edition since may 15th and I have seen very poor development on it since it's launch, now that the retail version has root I've seen more action even for the dev edition so my question is? How may of you have the developer edition and why aren't you developing? LMAO... My own answer is I'm not a developer but it bought i because I love root ASAP I get a phone plus I like to flash custom kernels and Rom.
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I've had the developer edition since may 15th and I have seen very poor development on it since it's launch, now that the retail version has root I've seen more action even for the dev edition so my question is? How may of you have the developer edition and why aren't you developing? LMAO... My own answear is I'm not a developer but it bought it because I love root ASAP I get a phone plus I like to flash custom kernels and Rom.
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This is the main reason why most people hope and pray for retail versions to get unlocked/rooted. There's not as much support for DE phones, therefore not as many people working on them. Some other carrier's ROMs work on Verizon, so you can trial an error there. Only downside right now to retail is locked bootloader, so no custom kernels but this phone already flies
I'm grandfathered into VZW's unlimited 4G. If I were to buy a subsidized phone, the first thing they'd do would be to force me into a tiered plan. For that reason I only buy unsubsidized phones. Since I'm paying full price, why not get the developer phone? I've been using a Galaxy Nexus since the release date and have been ROMing it ever since I got it, so I'm not new to this, and I don't know how I could survive without a rooted phone.
I just got mine three days ago. I haven't put a custom ROM on it yet. I want to make sure the build I use is compatible with the Developer Edition. For now, I'm happy with the phone and having root.
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I've had the developer edition since may 15th and I have seen very poor development on it since it's launch, now that the retail version has root I've seen more action even for the dev edition so my question is? How may of you have the developer edition and why aren't you developing? LMAO... My own answear is I'm not a developer but it bought it because I love root ASAP I get a phone plus I like to flash custom kernels and Rom.
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I've had the Develop Edition since early June. I previously had a S4 Developer Edition. I too am not a developer and I avoid having a phone I can not root. True, development for the S5 has been pretty slow, but now with root and Safestrap for the retail version there are a number of custom ROMs (a couple of really good ones) becoming available. I'm currently running the custom ROM by elliweg and loving it.
From someone who has been in the XDA world since the advent of android, i will say that this is probably as good as it's ever going to get. Only thing that will change that is an unlocked bootloader, but listening to people in the know, the chances of that happening are .0001%. Devs generally don't wanna get a phone that they can't really develop for. And the handful of people on XDA who actually have the kind of knowledge to crack the bootloader do not seem to be very interested in our phone. I have kinda just accepted that if i wanna be a crack flasher i'm gonna have to get it a new phone.
A phone being super popular and garnering lots of attention no longer guarantees alot of development around it.
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From someone who has been in the XDA world since the advent of android, i will say that this is probably as good as it's ever going to get. Only thing that will change that is an unlocked bootloader, but listening to people in the know, the chances of that happening are .0001%. Devs generally don't wanna get a phone that they can't really develop for. And the handful of people on XDA who actually have the kind of knowledge to crack the bootloader do not seem to be very interested in our phone. I have kinda just accepted that if i wanna be a crack flasher i'm gonna have to get it a new phone.
A phone being super popular and garnering lots of attention no longer guarantees alot of development around it.
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Ehhh I don't really agree. It's not that people aren't knowledgeable, it's that this phone can't be cracked for an unlocked BL. The S4 still hasn't been cracked in over a year now. The popular phones DO get the most attention, especially Samsung devices.
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Dennisg34 said:
Ehhh I don't really agree. It's not that people aren't knowledgeable, it's that this phone can't be cracked for an unlocked BL. The S4 still hasn't been cracked in over a year now. The popular phones DO get the most attention, especially Samsung devices.
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Just to clear thing up in case you didn't know the Original software for the s4 did get the bootloader unlocked, of coarse then there was a patch to it.
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Just to clear thing up in case you didn't know the Original software for the s4 did get the bootloader unlocked, of coarse then there was a patch to it.
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Well yeah, MDK baseband, I never updated (cause I'm not stupid) and had that until I sold it and got the S5..missing an unlocked BL with AOSP stuff, but I can manage now that we have root and multiple sweet ROMs.
Ordered mine couple of days ago. Should be here by the end of the week!
I'm on a dev running TWRP. I love it.
How do you know if you have the dev edition
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How do you know if you have the dev edition
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Easiest way is power the phone off, take back cover off, remove battery. The sticker behind the battery will actually say dev edition.
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How do you know if you have the dev edition
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The developer edition can only be purchased from the SAMSUNG Website, none of the U.S providers sell it
Just another Dev unit here.. Had to, cause I am always tweaking and I have the unlimited data plan...
Loving it!
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I have the Dev Ed too. Beware - always remember to uncheck Reactivation Lock before going to TWRP. I'm stuck there now.
I positive this will be considered a stupid question but I'm curious as to why we can't dd an unlocked bootloader off a dev edition and flash it onto a non-dev edition. I know it's not possible, just curious as to why. Is it because the dev edition is a totally different phone so this signature doesn't match? Are we not sure which partition it's on?
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I positive this will be considered a stupid question but I'm curious as to why we can't dd an unlocked bootloader off a dev edition and flash it onto a non-dev edition. I know it's not possible, just curious as to why. Is it because the dev edition is a totally different phone so this signature doesn't match? Are we not sure which partition it's on?
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I think because Verizon stinks
Another Dev Ed owner with unlimited data here
has anyone flashed the latest kernel from the new OTA?
I just called Samsung asking about a dev phone and they said it can do talk or text, is this true?