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Developer Edition Verizon GSIII with Unlockable Bootloader

Like the title states, Samsung will be releasing a Verizon Developer Edition GSIII with Unlockable Bootloader. Thoughts? Comments? Curse words?
I mainly want to know, will this impact our data plan if we purchase this product.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-offer-hacker-friendly-developer-edition-galaxy-s-iii?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter

This pisses me off even more than the bootloader being locked in the first place. Not only would I have to sell my normal S3, I'd have to wait for one of the developer ones, most likely with a tiny stock, to ship to me. I don't know how Samsung could possibly think this is a valid solution after the majority of people who want to hack their phone bought it when it came out.

SlimSnoopOS said:
Like the title states, Samsung will be releasing a Verizon Developer Edition GSIII with Unlockable Bootloader. Thoughts? Comments? Curse words?
I mainly want to know, will this impact our data plan if we purchase this product.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...galaxy-s-iii?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
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I want to know how soon it will be available. I would gladly sell my new S3 on Ebay to buy an unlocked one.

Any chance this could help people on here unlock the bootloader on the VZW S3?
I'm also slightly skeptical of this. I don't see this anywhere else but on some blogs. I can't find anything official from Samsung.
Hmm, according to CNet, Samsung sent this out as an email. That could be why there's no official release.
I also don't see that you can currently buy anything from http://developer.samsung.com
Ahh, verified https://twitter.com/SamsungJohn/status/222832375422402560

What a pile of steaming ****.
**** you, Verizon.

it should be noted guys that hardware wise its prolly gunna be the same.. ergo flashing the low level partitions will prolly "convert" ya
im just saying that based on speculation..

When?!
That's the question I have.
Also, will it have all the vzw junk and the annoying notification spam?
Can't wait for the answers.
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This is the most annoying frustrating thing. Do I return the phone before the 14 days are up now? I don't really want to spend double on the exact same phone... F u Verizon.

This could be good news for us. Looks like Samsung is getting some heat from us. I say keep the calls to Samsung going and also the facebook comments going. I keep telling that I'm returning because of this. They don't want to hear this..... Keep going guys...
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This is absolutely disgusting.
I don't know why people support this, or why people are assuming we'll magically be able to flash the developer firmware/bootloader to our standard Verizon Galaxy S3s.

Haven't read into it yet but is this version only available unsubsidized? Or can it be purchased at a subsidized price if I haven't upgraded yet?
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ExodusC said:
This is absolutely disgusting.
I don't know why people support this, or why people are assuming we'll magically be able to flash the developer firmware/bootloader to our standard Verizon Galaxy S3s.
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i would imagine that shot is at me, like i said just guessing i dont see any reason why not.
using something like dd to write every single partition to another device and basically "clone it" would then bypass the checks for certain software.

shabbypenguin said:
i would imagine that shot is at me, like i said just guessing i dont see any reason why not.
using something like dd to write every single partition to another device and basically "clone it" would then bypass the checks for certain software.
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No, that wasn't directed at you or anyone in particular- I was more referring to the tons of support the model was getting in the IRC channel.
I don't understand it, because I seriously doubt it will help.
It's possible, but I'm really doubting it.
Regardless, unless it does prove as a method for allowing consumer-level devices to be unlocked, it is practically useless to almost all Galaxy S3 owners on Verizon.
I'm not bashing anyone, I'm just disgusted Samsung and/or Verizon would think this is an okay alternative.
Also, how about all that "unlocked devices will hurt the network" stuff from Verizon? I believe there's a bit of a contradiction here.
Edit: Just restating, no hard feelings towards you, shabbypenguin, or anyone else, it just blows my mind Samsung and Verizon would pull this.

DrkGhst87 said:
Haven't read into it yet but is this version only available unsubsidized? Or can it be purchased at a subsidized price if I haven't upgraded yet?
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You'll be buying directly from Samsung so there will be no subsidy. You'd have to sell your Verizon-bought phone and use the cash for this if you want to do it on the cheap.

So basically the phone doesn't come with a warranty why offer warranty on a phone that people want to hack Verizon u piss me off I'm on sprint and I probably hate Verizon for doing this just as much as u guys
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Giving my locked GS3 to my wife.
Well this will make my wife happy. As soon as the developer version is available I'm going to get it and give the locked GS3 I just got today to my wife.
One question though, assuming the locked version can be unlocked, does that mean development for both devices will be the same? Or is it possible that they will have to have separate development?

Rev3ge07 said:
So basically the phone doesn't come with a warranty why offer warranty on a phone that people want to hack Verizon u piss me off I'm on sprint and I probably hate Verizon for doing this just as much as u guys
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Every device has a warranty, until you unlock it. Technically. And unless they can see that it was ever unlocked when you lock it back up...it's all good
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756483
it worked!! lol j/k

Good bye unlimited to those who still had it. I'm going to ride out the one I have. Guess they will need to add another developer area for these devices.

incubus26jc said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756483
it worked!! lol j/k
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Haha! On a serious note, are you going to purchase this Developer Edition GSIII? I read the original article as I was waiting in line at Fed Ex to pick up my GSIII. I am seriously thinking of returning my GSIII and getting this.

Guys can we do anything about what HTC and at&t are doing to us?

okay so by now I have learned that it might not just be htcs fault but is most likely atts fault that were not getting the unlocked boot loader or the proper sources to be released
Why is att doing this? There's nothing positive for them or HTC in doing this
Is there anything we can do, does any one have connections with people in bigger companies that make this very public and sound like the huge issue that it is
Is there any else that we can do besides for that?
I think it would just be a good idea to brainstorm on wht to do to fix this dilemma
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Vote with your dollars cancel service and tell them why.

Source has been released except for the most recent updates. Those will be released eventually.
I doubt AT&T is going to budge on the locked bootloader because the number of people who really care probably represent about 1% of their HOX customers.
If you're intent on pushing, the place to start would be making a stink on AT&T's social media pages.

Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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Well, if you have the money to start a class action against them, sure.

XNine said:
Well, if you have the money to start a class action against them, sure.
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Doesn't the AT&T contract say you can't sue them?
I think you can still take them to small court which is limited to a few thousand dollars.

tony_5309 said:
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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I'd probably just punch him in the Face
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If you guys really want to try, just go to small claims courts claiming that you were convinced that you had the ability to unlock the bootloader, and use Peter Chou's statement on unlocking bootloaders as evidence, and then say that you couldn't unlock it. If you lose, nothing happens to you. If you win, and a lot of other people win, AT&T is going to be bleeding money.

karan1203 said:
Doesn't the AT&T contract say you can't sue them?
I think you can still take them to small court which is limited to a few thousand dollars.
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I've never seen anything saying you couldn't sue AT&T. A Class action would be there to reverse their grip on a handset, which is HTC's flagship in North America (and arguably, the best phone out right now). It hurts devs more than anything.

tony_5309 said:
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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We might, but anyone that is getting this phone now with the new update is screwed for a while. And it's not fair that they have to wait just because these companies are being dumb.
I suggest we all get on a bus, go to Houston where AT&T is based and just drop our pants and leave them something at their front entrance....
Just kidding...

Buy samsung. Let htc go bankrupt!

lazarat said:
Buy samsung. Let htc go bankrupt!
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its not HTC its ATT so that comment really didnt help. ATT wants the locked bootloader on all thier flagship phones. The dont want people to do tethering, and they want to be able to force you to keep that ****ty bloatware for the possible sales they would get from it. its flat out ATT greed that has them keeping the bootloader locked down. Unfortunatly right now HTC doesnt have the pull Samsung does to force ATT hand.

blessedswine said:
Unfortunatly right now HTC doesnt have the pull Samsung does to force ATT hand.
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Then they better have the pull because people pay high amount of $ for their device and do not care whether they have the pull or not. Maybe htc should call themselves apple2 since all I read about them is giving devs hard time not releasing sources etc while on their webpage they claim to be dev friendly which is total bull****.

This new software update isn't good. Patching the hboot, no root, no bootloader unlock. We shouldn't expect any new developers developing for this phone. AT&T sealed that deal for us when they release 2.20.

SkizzMcNizz said:
This new software update isn't good. Patching the hboot, no root, no bootloader unlock. We shouldn't expect any new developers developing for this phone. AT&T sealed that deal for us when they release 2.20.
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yep and the att guy at the store updated my wifes before giving it to her and i asked him why he said they were told they have to do the update on all HTC One X they sell. i returned it and ordered from amazon hoping to get 1.85 on the phone. This was earlier today when she wanted to upgrade to the HOX too.

vioalas said:
We might, but anyone that is getting this phone now with the new update is screwed for a while. And it's not fair that they have to wait just because these companies are being dumb.
I suggest we all get on a bus, go to Houston where AT&T is based and just drop our pants and leave them something at their front entrance....
Just kidding...
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LoL! This is true..
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Now, who's coding the HBoot? It can't be AT&T, can it? I would think it would have to be HTC because no one at AT&T is smart enough to do this...
Edit: As well, just checked HTC's site... the rom is listed for manual download. Perhaps a dev can reverse engineer it?

XNine said:
Now, who's coding the HBoot? It can't be AT&T, can it? I would think it would have to be HTC because no one at AT&T is smart enough to do this...
Edit: As well, just checked HTC's site... the rom is listed for manual download. Perhaps a dev can reverse engineer it?
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Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.

gunnyman said:
Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
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Has anyone who's taken the ota and kept root confirmed which partitions are/aren't WP?

gunnyman said:
Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
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I hear ya man. ****, I should have got an iPhone. At least I could pester Siri about her hot sister or ask advice on hiding bodies. Even iPhones are having better luck getting unlocked.
Regardless, I do love this phone. Probably the best phone since the Nexus One.
Like you said though, just a matter of time, and, will we have bootloader unlock access? I'm going to be hopeful. For anyone who buys their device with 2.20 loaded, it would really suck to not be able to at least achieve root.
Question, gunny... do you know (assuming one has root and TBU), is there a way to freeze the updates? Is their a system app or process that could be frozen so that OTA's never show again?

So if you return your gs4 due to the locked bootloader..

I mean I myself will wait until the last day to return it, and hope the bootloader issue has been solved. But what a shame, this device is nice. To hear the htc one already has cm10 is kinda of disappointing. So the question I ask what device will you get instead? Is it even worth it to get the international gs4 version?

I'm sticking with the GS4. I can live with the Disable option for now.
Also, I'm coming from a GSM Galaxy Nexus, so I'm already familiar with Samsung's hardware.

I don't care about the locked bootloader
BUT
Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?

raqball said:
I don't care about the locked bootloader
BUT
Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.

raqball said:
I don't care about the locked bootloader
BUT
Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.

joshuadjohnson22 said:
I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
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Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:

raqball said:
I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.

Thermalwolf said:
Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
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It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock

mattdm said:
If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
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Cool! Thanks for the informative post..
I am not really following any of this as I don't have any interest in custom ROM's.
I have not even rooted yet but may do so once we have a way to restore back to factory. I'm pretty simple these days (I was a chronic flasher in years past) but now I only consider root if I want to use Titanium and AdFree..
I know a lot of users want custom ROM's though so hopefully the bootloader can and will be cracked.

joshuadjohnson22 said:
It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
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Cyanongen ...has both the One and S4 " https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/eGmW8e8sCn4 "

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wttisme said:
Personally right now I'm fine with a root and de-bloating. I do know it's possible to remove the root and return to stock if you need or want to return the phone because I had to. I just deleted the SU binary along with Busybox from system/xbin and the phone status went back to custom and lock on boot went away.
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Yeah I am ok with that to but man the UI is so ugly... I hope to see some changes lol

As for the bootloader, the biggest problem is the number of potential developers. I'm not buying the device (full price) and a jtag just to test. And the fact that they're using an open source system is not encouraging..But let's see what happens! It does reaffirm my distain for ATT though.
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Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Borii said:
Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Yes... No way to OC without a custom kernel or recovery to flash said kernel.
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SysAdmNj said:
Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
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Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold

cl_l said:
Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
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They may not notice but at&t sure will

SysAdmNj said:
They may not notice but at&t sure will
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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.

Personally I'm just going to wait for the bootloader to be unlocked before I buy one, if it turns out that the bootloader is not unlockable I'll just buy a GS3.

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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
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Thanks for the info but you have not changed my mind on the matter. I'll wait as long as I can.

[Petition] Samsung and AT&T: Unlock the bootloader of the Galaxy S4

I have started a petition on change.org to Samsung and AT&T to get the boot loader unlocked. I saw some other people petition other companies a little while ago to unlock the bootloader of a phone and when they reached the required amount of signatures they released a software update and BOOM it was unlocked. Sign it here if you like: https://www.change.org/petitions/sa...oot-loader-for-the-samsung-galaxy-s4-sgh-1337
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I believe there is already a petition for this same exact thing with ~383 signatures on it. http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
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Nice if only that would work with At&t great what you're trying but it will just get no where fast. unless you hold the CEO of Att hostage and make these demands probably not going to get to many results.

dligon said:
Nice if only that would work with At&t great what you're trying but it will just get no where fast. unless you hold the CEO of Att hostage and make these demands probably not going to get to many results.
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Careful now! The NSA is now watching you for a comment like that
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flinttownbrown said:
Careful now! The NSA is now watching you for a comment like that
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tha guvment shut down so I might be ok.

Also, does anyone know who I should put in for the email contacts. I want to email both companies but don't know who I should email.
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r8revealed said:
I believe there is already a petition for this same exact thing with ~383 signatures on it. http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
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Best if we use this petition, there are more people who signed up already, including me.

Gfl

I emailed Samsung and got this reply
"We would like to inform you that the devices released through carriers are bootloader locked version’s. However, the devices with unlocked bootloader’s are available through Verizon and AT&T. Hence, we request you to check with the carriers for further information regarding the query."
Makes it sound like its the carriers are the ones requesting the boot-locks and that some of there phones aren't locked which is kinda weird. I'm going to contact att tomorrow and ask If I can trade my phone for one without a bootlock as I just bought it. I do not expect this to work but it worth trying and I want att to know that I do not like being sold lock down phones.
Anyways I signed both petitions
if I get any good news from att I will post an update, but more then likely I will just get the classic run around.

alkmie said:
I emailed Samsung and got this reply
"We would like to inform you that the devices released through carriers are bootloader locked version’s. However, the devices with unlocked bootloader’s are available through Verizon and AT&T. Hence, we request you to check with the carriers for further information regarding the query."
Makes it sound like its the carriers are the ones requesting the boot-locks and that some of there phones aren't locked which is kinda weird. I'm going to contact att tomorrow and ask If I can trade my phone for one without a bootlock as I just bought it. I do not expect this to work but it worth trying and I want att to know that I do not like being sold lock down phones.
Anyways I signed both petitions
if I get any good news from att I will post an update, but more then likely I will just get the classic run around.
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Samsung is completely correct and this has been known for a long time now. The unlocked devices they are talking about are the developer and GE phones. AT&T and Verizon branded S4s are bootloader locked. If you want to read through the forums, there is a lot more information available about all of this. Good luck.

signed, hope they release an unlock soon, i guess this may happen only later when a new flagship arrives

drucquerkellan said:
Also, does anyone know who I should put in for the email contacts. I want to email both companies but don't know who I should email.
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[email protected]
CEO and chairman of ATT. This is the CEO of ATT, not just ATT wireless, be calm, be professional and be polite. Nothing a boss hates more than several emails from actual rational customers about how his subordinates are doing their job.
Emailing him and blasting twitter/facebook is the best way to get a response. Unfortunately you need MANY people doing it at once. However, samsung devices probably have the biggest userbase besides iphone on ATT. The same issues we have are also present on the Note 3 and other samsung devices no? They are all locked down too right? Getting everyone to blast ATT calmly, rationally, professionally, and most important, PUBLICLY, will get a response if the number of comments is high enough. About once a week I have been tweeting at all the different ATT accounts and emailing various executives and samsung. They just need enough people to understand that people really don't like it being locked down.

Just wondering
Do they have to unlock the boot loader when you have had your phone for 2 years? Seems like at that point I have paid back the subsidy and the phone should be mine. I am glad to see things moving away from subsidized phones. God I hate Samsung. Their touchwiz interface is the worst piece of trash in the world. All their junk software sucking my battery dry.

alderran said:
Do they have to unlock the boot loader when you have had your phone for 2 years? Seems like at that point I have paid back the subsidy and the phone should be mine. I am glad to see things moving away from subsidized phones. God I hate Samsung. Their touchwiz interface is the worst piece of trash in the world. All their junk software sucking my battery dry.
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They don't have to ever unlock it. Samsung isn't really the enemy here, mostly AT&T since they're the one locking it. And I've run this battery for days on the stock system.

DeadlySin9 said:
They don't have to ever unlock it. Samsung isn't really the enemy here, mostly AT&T since they're the one locking it. And I've run this battery for days on the stock system.
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I took my phone off the charger about an hour ago to read a text message. I haven't done anything with it. Just checked the battery is down to 93%. If I leave it off charge it will be dead in the morning. It wasn't like this before the 4.3 update.
I know AT&T is the enemy, but what choice. Verizon is also the enemy. T-Mobile is better, but the coverage is not good.
Not like there is much of a choice. Actually I have no choice because my work place only allows us to use Verizon or AT&T. They both suck.
However I am going to switch my wife over to T-Mobile when her contract is up this summer.

Still waiting on MF3
I still haven't updated to MK2 from MF3 fearing I will not be able to go back if any solution for bypassing the bootloader comes up for MF3.. I had signed up for the petitions long back and now it is good to see that the numbers have increased since then. However I dont think anything will be done by AT&T even after the petitions reach the goal..

arnuckwade said:
I still haven't updated to MK2 from MF3 fearing I will not be able to go back if any solution for bypassing the bootloader comes up for MF3.. I had signed up for the petitions long back and now it is good to see that the numbers have increased since then. However I dont think anything will be done by AT&T even after the petitions reach the goal..
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the easiest route would be to trade for a tmobile galaxy s4 or if you have the disposable income just buy the i9505, i kinda agree no matter how many petitions we sign it will never be enough, so much for android being the " open platform " that it was supposed to be.

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davebegue said:
Will that international one work on atnt 4glte? I thought it was different than the atnt version
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I'm not sure, but the international may not have the same radio bands for LTE. You'd have to compare them.

What I'm confused about is, how isn't there a way to "ODIN" our phones with the GPE edition stock ROM/Bootloader/etc. Isn't the hardware identical other than the factory software that's loaded on it?
Then again, that would be too easy..

Verizon bootloader unlock soon?

I know, I know, WHY DID I BUY THE VERIZON PIXEL 2? Well, i actually got it as a gift from my parents, they got the BestBuy 100$ off so they thought it was a good deal. I personally had a Nexus 6P but my battery was completely dying and i bought it from newegg so i cant rma it. I got it today and i love it, but its so weird without the ability to use still like greenify, adblock, titanium backup, etc. So is there a guess of when there will be a bootloader unlock if there will be one?

Was there ever an unlock for the Verizon Pixel? Therein lies your answer.

mtoomey79 said:
Was there ever an unlock for the Verizon Pixel? Therein lies your answer.
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Not sure if joking/sarcasm, but there was an unlock for the Pixel but it was discovered by accident. Definitely no guarantee for it this time around.

aryathecat said:
Not sure if joking/sarcasm, but there was an unlock for the Pixel but it was discovered by accident. Definitely no guarantee for it this time around.
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There is a guarantee. It won't happen.
Sent from my Pixel using XDA-Developers Legacy app

bobby janow said:
There is a guarantee. It won't happen.
Sent from my Pixel using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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That's a silly assumption...

I guess we can only hope the same thing happens. Im going to keep it for updating for as long as I can.

Etheralrealm said:
I guess we can only hope the same thing happens. Im going to keep it for updating for as long as I can.
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What do you mean? Why would you not update? You will never get root on that device so either sell it or live with it. Not updating will only make your device less secure. Besides, you'll need to update to the November patch in order to fix the Krack wifi exploit. This is not a silly assumption, this is fact. I'd be more than happy to eat my words at some point but for now the sugar is in the back of the cabinet.
All we need is a bounty thread at this point. You know that's next right? This way everyone complaining about Verizon can go to one place to rant and not all over the boards.

Etheralrealm said:
I know, I know, WHY DID I BUY THE VERIZON PIXEL 2? Well, i actually got it as a gift from my parents, they got the BestBuy 100$ off so they thought it was a good deal. I personally had a Nexus 6P but my battery was completely dying and i bought it from newegg so i cant rma it. I got it today and i love it, but its so weird without the ability to use still like greenify, adblock, titanium backup, etc. So is there a guess of when there will be a bootloader unlock if there will be one?
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Your choice is, buy a google version then sell the Vz one.

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Your choice is, buy a google version then sell the Vz one.
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Agreed. But if he got it as a gift then his options might be limited if it was not bought outright. I'd just say live with it, most people aren't rooting any longer anyway. There is no root yet although that might be coming when images are released. Bootloader unlock, however, on the Verizon Pixels is not going to happen anytime soon, if ever. And to the OP, @Etheralrealm you don't need TiB if you're not flashing roms really. Greenify is a waste with this device and Adaway has some VPN alternatives. I'd just enjoy the device and forget about messing with it.

Yeah, it was bought on a payment plan so my options with selling it are kind of limited.

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Agreed. But if he got it as a gift then his options might be limited if it was not bought outright. I'd just say live with it, most people aren't rooting any longer anyway. There is no root yet although that might be coming when images are released. Bootloader unlock, however, on the Verizon Pixels is not going to happen anytime soon, if ever. And to the OP, @Etheralrealm you don't need TiB if you're not flashing roms really. Greenify is a waste with this device and Adaway has some VPN alternatives. I'd just enjoy the device and forget about messing with it.
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I brought it back to Verizon and since it was only a few days they actually were willing to reverse my purchase. I ordered a 6P battery kit and it is working great again, hope it lasts!