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Hi
I am currently using ClockWorkMod 5.0.2.0 on my Sensation, and have not really been following the discussions on the new recoveries from TeamWin and 4EXT.
So I am wondering; is ClockWorkMod not developed anymore?
What are the benefits of changing to a different Recovery?
Prettier GUI, ability to theme, and better user interface aren't really valid point to me. I do not spend that much time in recovery, and do not find the ClockWorkMod to be any hassle at all.
Any insights or personal experiences are appreciated.
betelgeuse74 said:
What are the benefits of changing to a different Recovery?
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CWR has everything you need to the average user - erasing partitions, zeroing the cache, creating backups and installing zip from SD. I do not see a point to go to another recovery mod.
I don't see it to but ARHD developer change all of us using this rom to EXT4 so i am happy with that now i
danilo081 said:
I don't see it to but ARHD developer change all of us using this rom to EXT4 so i am happy with that now i
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There seems to a common confusion between the ext4 filesystem and the 4ext recovery. Although the OP incorrectly stated ext4, what is actually being discussed is 4ext.
The ext4 filesystem is used by ARHD, not the 4ext recovery. No responsible dev that I know of includes a recovery image in their ROM.
*edit* I didn't realize that ARHD does flash the recovery image. I'm not sure why the dev cares what recovery people use though.
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moto211 said:
No responsible dev that I know of includes a recovery image in their ROM.
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Well there is a recovery image included in ARHD, 4EXT.
Thank you for pointing out my typo, and sorry for any confusion it might have caused.
I installed 4EXT trial version, and it looks great, actually.
I'm not sure I'm going to buy it (even though it doesn't cost much)
For me, ClockWorkMod works just fine and its no problem at all to perform the tasks I need during a upgrade/new flash.
But does anyone know if CWM is still developed?
4EXT is based on CWM it says...
betelgeuse74 said:
Thank you for pointing out my typo, and sorry for any confusion it might have caused.
I installed 4EXT trial version, and it looks great, actually.
I'm not sure I'm going to buy it (even though it doesn't cost much)
For me, ClockWorkMod works just fine and its no problem at all to perform the tasks I need during a upgrade/new flash.
But does anyone know if CWM is still developed?
4EXT is based on CWM it says...
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You don't need to buy it! The recovery itself and even the recovery updater is free. The only thing you can buy is the recovery control app which allows you to do multiple recovery actions within the rom.. You can try it 3days for free! I love it :-D
Pete
Noticed something strange going on with my recovery.
I recently updated to ICS 4.03 and installed the new firmware package and everything.
Previously on old Gingerbread roms I was using CWM.
Since changing to ICS it seems to have 4EXT recovery.
What I want to know is, is it now safe to delete the Clockwork Recovery folder on my SD Card? Seems i've got clutter and left overs that are no longer needed.
Or does 4EXT hook into CWM somehow?
Arthur Hucksake said:
Noticed something strange going on with my recovery.
I recently updated to ICS 4.03 and installed the new firmware package and everything.
Previously on old Gingerbread roms I was using CWM.
Since changing to ICS it seems to have 4EXT recovery.
What I want to know is, is it now safe to delete the Clockwork Recovery folder on my SD Card? Seems i've got clutter and left overs that are no longer needed.
Or does 4EXT hook into CWM somehow?
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Hi,
4EXT is the advanced version of CWM.
Do not delete Clockworkmod Folder.
It contains backups,both old and new.
4EXT and CWM are completely interchangeable.
4EXT is great.
Try it,you'll like it.
Great UI.Touch screen
Is this something I either "want" and or "need" to download for my phone? Just came over from the MyTouch, have already got S=Off, Super CID, perm root...but keep seeing 4EXT all over the place.
Thoughts?
It's just a different recovery - some prefer CWM, others 4EXT
It's all down to personal choice
EddyOS said:
It's just a different recovery - some prefer CWM, others 4EXT
It's all down to personal choice
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oh ok, so it's not something that I'll be screwed if I don't download it? Sweet!
no u dont need it, but its a lot simpler and can be themed which looks good.. its the same as CWM but its touch controlled..
Is there a guide anywhere to install it that I'm just missing or have overlooked?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377759
just flash it in CWM
For me its better than CWM. Its easier to use plus touch screen optimized.
For installation, just download it and then read the instruction that is in the zip.
Sent from revolutionized HTC Sensation ICS
Also, 4EXT seems to allow options to install Mod's when flashing the ROM like the Bravia Engine Mod or a different speed kernel.
Don't think ClockworkMod can do this (not yet at least)
k0zmic said:
Also, 4EXT seems to allow options to install Mod's when flashing the ROM like the Bravia Engine Mod or a different speed kernel.
Don't think ClockworkMod can do this (not yet at least)
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This is why you need it.
I mean you don't NEED it, until you use the fancy features, then you won't be able to imagine life without it.
Some of the newest options during flash are fully GUI menus that make selecting options SUPER easy.
Hello folks,
Since a long time now...we all are using mostly these three recoveries:
1)Clockworkmod(CWM) Recovery (by @Koush)
2)PhilZ-Touch Recovery (by @Phil3759)
3)TWRP Recovery (by TeamWin)
...for getting our ROM flashing and other jobs done.
This thread is meant to compare these three recoveries in terms of it's global usage. It's just like a survey.
So...everybody is requested to vote on the poll for their most used recovery. Thanks
Just a few words before you vote:
You are welcomed to post the reason for liking and using the recovery you voted for. But please don't post something like: "I have only Advanced version (without any GUI and Touch) of PhilZ-Touch Recovery for my device, so I like TWRP", "Touch doesn't work in my TWRP, so I like CWM", "I have the latest version of CWM but not of PhilZ-Touch Recovery for my device, So I vote for CWM". These reasons are because your device is not officially supported by the developer of the recovery. Vote here only if you are using/used the officially supported build of the recovery.
Recovery is a choice. So, everybody is gonna like different recovery for their different aspects/advantages. Just vote on the Poll and leave a post so that we can know that which of these recoveries are mostly used by users and why. Multiple options are enabled in the poll but please try to vote in only one option...for the recovery you use the most.
Please NOTE: This thread is no way meant to insult any of the developer(s) of above recoveries. This thread is just to know the popularity of these recoveries among the users...can be rather called a 'survey'.
Vanilla CWM is no match for Philz Advanced edition - way more features and fast backup speed if exfat modules have been incorporated. TWRP comes a close second with its file manager and terminal, and is also very quick
shoey63 said:
Vanilla CWM is no match for Philz Advanced edition - way more features and fast backup speed if exfat modules have been incorporated. TWRP comes a close second with its file manager and terminal, and is also very quick
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I respect your opinion.
But, Are you sure? I hope Vanilla=Stock.
Can you just tell me a feature that's more in vanilla cwm (than philz-touch)?
I do agree that it's code is very neat (really) and the UI is simple...but when it comes to features...TWRP and PhilZ-Touch wins (Acc. to me).
However, cwm has started addition of new features like- Swipe-Touch, Menu color's changing, etc nowadays.
Vanilla (stock) Cwm is no match for Philz = Philz is waaay superior :thumbup: Sorry if my post was confusing to you
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I wouldnt say either is superior to the other. They all have their own lil niches and ppl like each for whatever reason.
They are all good recoveries and choice is good.
PlayfulGod said:
I wouldnt say either is superior to the other. They all have their own lil niches and ppl like each for whatever reason.
They are all good recoveries and choice is good.
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Ofcourse, that's what I said in first post.
My personal rank:
1. PhilZ Touch
2. TWRP
3. Carliv Touch
4. CWM
I'm using MTK6589.
TWRP because PhilZ errors out on CM-11 update
I just installed TWRP on my P3113 because PhilZ-Touch 6.53.6 could not update CM-11 to the 20140810 nightly & the recovery log says that the file could not be found after logging lots of errors.
PhilZ was looking in as: /sdcard/0/cmupdater/cm-11-20140810-NIGHTLY-p3110.zip
whereas the file was in: /storage/emulated/0/cmupdater
Interesting in that the 1st CM-11 was installed by PhilZ by using PhilZ to do a fresh install.......
PhilZ looks to be quite nice but something need to be changed in the location checking for the CM-11's version; don't know if other versions has a change of naming directories for the Tab 2 7 P3113/P3110.
Will be staying with TWRP for now; kinda like the PhilZ tho.
For my opinion, PhylZ can will be the better Recovery because if dev make compatibility theme and add TWRP options supports to PhylZ, it will make a full Recovery :good:
I super like philz one touch 'clean to install new rom'
I just use them but here's my take:
CWM - Older and more known. Works when all others may fail.
Philz - Almost the same as CWM but has more features - including touch for some devices when CWM doesn't have it - and little extra features like cleaning for new ROM which automatically does what you need.
TWRP - IMO it's prettier and has very good features - but the support on devices is less than the older CWM.
So currently I use PhilZ, but using AROMA for GAPPS seems like TWRP would have worked - failed on PhilZ. Found workarounds.
As stated, everyone has reasons for their choices and preferences. Really, I didn't see that much of a pull to go TWRP (used on other devices) since I had alternatives, and I didn't need to go CWM because - IMO - PhilZ is the same with added features.
I have only used TWRP, stock recovery and CF-Auto-Root custom recovery that flashes SuperSU.
PiotrGrochowski said:
I have only used TWRP, stock recovery and CF-Auto-Root custom recovery that flashes SuperSU.
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It was fun helping Phil port his recovery to other devices, but it is now deprecated, and the dev no longer active. TWRP is the way forward now.
Philz is the best, always
Hello folks Philz is my favourite and the best recovery always. Maybe u for not know, after the release of TWRP I had contacted Koushik Koush Dutta to involve the special features of TWRP in the next version of CWM. But he was busy working in Cyanogen so he appointed Philip who then developed the CWM Advanced edition Philz Touch.
Now let me say why should u must use Philz or if not possible then CWM touch. Recovery refers to a mode on an Android device to recover and save your device during any emergency. By chance of the touch screen of it phone gets damaged then u can use non touch facility in CWM or Philz.
So if possible use CWM and Philz, and if it's not available for urgent device then contact me on : [email protected]
I will help u out.
Thank You...
i like: "They are all good recoveries and choice is good"
I have only used TWRP for the time being, but it seems to be the only recovery I will ever need.
Feature-packed, simple to use and just plain awesome!
Bhargav97 said:
Hello folks,
Since a long time now...we all are using mostly these three recoveries:
1)Clockworkmod(CWM) Recovery (by @Koush)
2)PhilZ-Touch Recovery (by @Phil3759)
3)TWRP Recovery (by TeamWin)
...for getting our ROM flashing and other jobs done.
This thread is meant to compare these three recoveries in terms of it's global usage. It's just like a survey.
So...everybody is requested to vote on the poll for their most used recovery. Thanks
Just a few words before you vote:
You are welcomed to post the reason for liking and using the recovery you voted for. But please don't post something like: "I have only Advanced version (without any GUI and Touch) of PhilZ-Touch Recovery for my device, so I like TWRP", "Touch doesn't work in my TWRP, so I like CWM", "I have the latest version of CWM but not of PhilZ-Touch Recovery for my device, So I vote for CWM". These reasons are because your device is not officially supported by the developer of the recovery. Vote here only if you are using/used the officially supported build of the recovery.
Recovery is a choice. So, everybody is gonna like different recovery for their different aspects/advantages. Just vote on the Poll and leave a post so that we can know that which of these recoveries are mostly used by users and why. Multiple options are enabled in the poll but please try to vote in only one option...for the recovery you use the most.
Please NOTE: This thread is no way meant to insult any of the developer(s) of above recoveries. This thread is just to know the popularity of these recoveries among the users...can be rather called a 'survey'.
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in my opinion, twrp is better as it offers more options and it has an interface built from scratch.
I rooted and installed the (dual recovery? i believe its called) so that i wouldn't need to unlock bootloader and lose DRM keys.
My main question is why do we need this dual recovery which essentially installs 2 custom recoveries?
Some ROMS specify flashing using Philz however i have always used TWRP and have my backups using this etc.
What is the difference and why should i use Philz instead of TWRP?
What are the benefits of each?
rm83855 said:
I rooted and installed the (dual recovery?...
What are the benefits of each?
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Both do the same job. It's just a matter of user preference really. Philz can come in handy if you are flashing a massive stock based rom which TWRP might not be able to handle, due to it's size. However, Philz development has ceased, while TWRP continues.
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