I rooted and installed the (dual recovery? i believe its called) so that i wouldn't need to unlock bootloader and lose DRM keys.
My main question is why do we need this dual recovery which essentially installs 2 custom recoveries?
Some ROMS specify flashing using Philz however i have always used TWRP and have my backups using this etc.
What is the difference and why should i use Philz instead of TWRP?
What are the benefits of each?
rm83855 said:
I rooted and installed the (dual recovery?...
What are the benefits of each?
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Both do the same job. It's just a matter of user preference really. Philz can come in handy if you are flashing a massive stock based rom which TWRP might not be able to handle, due to it's size. However, Philz development has ceased, while TWRP continues.
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Is it possible to have both TWRP and CWM installed at the same time and switch between the two? I have noticed that some roms prefer to be flashed with TWRP and then the other way CWM. If this is possible is there a choice when going to recovery or is there a default .
You can only have one recovery installed
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If you're on a 2.3 TWRP you should be able to handle any ROM without issue I'd say. Avoid 2.4 for now until they iron out the bugs.
leesumm said:
Is it possible to have both TWRP and CWM installed at the same time and switch between the two? I have noticed that some roms prefer to be flashed with TWRP and then the other way CWM. If this is possible is there a choice when going to recovery or is there a default .
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Recovery is a partition, and there's only one of them. Whatever you flash there replaces what was there before.
Dual boot is possible with s-off, but only for running two different roms. I don't believe there's any way to have two recovery partitions without some sort of custom bootloader, and since hboot is not open source, you'd need to code one from scratch. You're welcome to give it a shot.
I'd love to mess around with ROMs other than stock (especially CM), but I don't want to have to repeatedly back up my data, flash the new ROM, and restore my data (which may or may not be compatible with the ROM).
Is it possible to dual boot my existing stock N5 system with other ROMs that can be easily reflashed? I have a 32GB N5, and I'm completely comfortable using adb and other such tools (I'm in IT and I know what I'm doing ). If it matters, I currently use franco's kernel, but everything else is completely stock (factory, not AOSP).
You can install multirom using this app, but you will need to be rooted AND unlocked
If you have an unlocked bootloader but no root, you can flash the multirom recovery.img using fastboot.
If you aren't unlocked, back up your apps to to an external source, unlock your bootloader and then flash the multirom recovery.img using fastboot.
Good luck!
Fallon9111 said:
You can install multirom using this app, but you will need to be rooted AND unlocked
If you have an unlocked bootloader but no root, you can flash the multirom recovery.img using fastboot.
If you aren't unlocked, back up your apps to to an external source, unlock your bootloader and then flash the multirom recovery.img using fastboot.
Good luck!
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Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you, I greatly appreciate it!
I've been reading through tons of posts trying to figure out which recovery works best for flashing zips and/or installing OTA updates. I'd like to get a thread going so that it's more clear which recovery ROM is recommended and why. I've been using TWRP but find the touch to be spotty at BEST, also I got my phone into a bootloop after installing the 174.44.1 OTA update and it seemed like a lot of ppl that had no issues were using Philz CWM. So anyway, please post opinions!
I have the same query.
grahamgo said:
I have the same query.
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Have also been reading a lot about those recoveries.
I started with CWM because I had good experience with it on my Acer S120.
Recently (yesterday to be precisely) I changed to Philz CWM after I had to do a reflash of the whole system.
I decided for Philz because of the buggy touch functions from TWRP I read about.
So far I'm pleased with Philz CWM.
Can you link to where you obtained Philz CWM and which version are you using. I have just installed TWRP v2.6.3.0 and it seems fine (I couldn't find v2.6.3.2 which I think is the latest ver).
i had philz cwrm and when i did "restore default" for resetting settings original from menu settings, didn't work. it is a bug and for me, that want a phone complete working, this is important. most users use wipe from recovery but i want that function!!!
now i have v2.6.3.2 twrp and all is workind, even touch slide that before (until 2.6.3.0) was bugged.
same issue of philz recovery for my ex phone htc desire 500.... is philz that insert something error for restoring and even i asked many forum, noone know solution and many users don't know because don't try (or don't want try)
I use twrp with no issues at all (pretty sure the touch bug was fixed a while ago). But then I've also heard that Phil's cwm is brilliant, so I guess it's just down to personal preference?
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Can someone point me to the correct twrp 2.6.3.2 for moto g please. The one I found installed but says its 2.6.3.0 although its working fine.
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Can you link to where you obtained Philz CWM and which version are you using. I have just installed TWRP v2.6.3.0 and it seems fine (I couldn't find v2.6.3.2 which I think is the latest ver).
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Here is where I got mine http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/xt1032
It's for the XT1032 ofcourse.
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Can someone point me to the correct twrp 2.6.3.2 for moto g please. The one I found installed but says its 2.6.3.0 although its working fine.
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I read somewhere that it was a typo. Mine says 2.6.3.0 after the install of 2.6.3.2. And yes its running fine, no bugs that I can see.
@slamor. OK, thanks yes its very responsive and seems to be perfect, the date is now correct too. Just that niggling v2.6.3.0 that shows up. I am reluctant to try Philz CWM only because I have several backups that I want to hang onto. Maybe Philz CWM uses the same backup/restore format? But right now it ain't broken, so no need to fix it!
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I dont know about that. From past experience I could Never use CWM backups on TWRP and vice versa.
Think about it as ...working.
Hey,
Can I change custom recoveries as if I was flashing them for the first time? Do I need any special care with it? I've flashed CWM, but it isn't the touch version, and this is way nicer to use.
Diogomsb said:
Hey,
Can I change custom recoveries as if I was flashing them for the first time? Do I need any special care with it? I've flashed CWM, but it isn't the touch version, and this is way nicer to use.
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Yup. Just fastboot or mfastboot flash (whichever one you used) the new recovery and it will overwrite the one you have now. Some recoveries even come in a flashable form so you can flash the zip from your current recovery just like you would any other zip (ie SuperSU).
I am completely confused!. Can someone PLEASE help me????
I have a Z3 D6603 on 6.0.1
I want to use a custom rom, or root it just to use some extra features.
I gather i need to (in this order):
DOWNGRADE to another android OS
DOWNGRADE firmware
ROOT using whatever method available
BACKUP DRM KEYS
UNLOCK BOOTLOADER
UPGRADE ROM
RESTORE DRM
There doesn't seem to be a ALL IN ONE guide to do everything in one single thread. Instead i have endless windows open, go here do that, go elsewhere to this..etc...etc..etc. Most guides say i need to use specific firmware, but no mention on how to implement this. It seems you need 7 or 8 guides/windows open and for me thats way too confusing for me.
If someone has a spare time and can help me remotely via teamviewer, i would be grateful. Or a link to a all in one guide if it exists?
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I am completely confused!. Can someone PLEASE help me????
I have a Z3 D6603 on 6.0.1
I want to use a custom rom, or root it just to use some extra features.
I gather i need to (in this order):
DOWNGRADE to another android OS
DOWNGRADE firmware
ROOT using whatever method available
BACKUP DRM KEYS
UNLOCK BOOTLOADER
UPGRADE ROM
RESTORE DRM
There doesn't seem to be a ALL IN ONE guide to do everything in one single thread. Instead i have endless windows open, go here do that, go elsewhere to this..etc...etc..etc. Most guides say i need to use specific firmware, but no mention on how to implement this. It seems you need 7 or 8 guides/windows open and for me thats way too confusing for me.
If someone has a spare time and can help me remotely via teamviewer, i would be grateful. Or a link to a all in one guide if it exists?
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First of all you have to decide whether you want to install custom rom or just root the stock one.
There is no need to unlock bootloader in the second case.
kvestas said:
First of all you have to decide whether you want to install custom rom or just root the stock one.
There is no need to unlock bootloader in the second case.
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Good point thanks for that, i think a stock rom will be ok. I just want to be able to:
1. Use xposed
2.Be able to free up my FULL internal memory by allowing transfer of apps to the sd card (that wont usually allow that).
But if there's other benefits with custom roms, such as extended battery life. Then i would definitely think about that.
So far i have made progress....
1. Downgraded to 4.4.4
2. Rooted.
So i am left to backup DRM keys (just because)
Then flash a rom.
Any pointers to pre rooted stock roms for D6603 for the EU./UK market?
Nice... I see you are on the right way already.
About the rom. I dont know. Perhaps DE will go fine. But maybe it might be useful to check the newest rom for your exact region with xperifirm at first.
I have soft bricked my phone.
So i installed TWRP recovery, and booted into recovery. I deleted DATA, CACHE, DALVIC, SYSTEM.
Then i went to install my pre rooted rom, but it was not picking it up. So i removed SD card and put into my PC and then copied this zip file onto it again. PLugged back into Z3 and again phone is not picking it up. So i tried to reboot phone to get back into recovery and it is stuck on the SONY splash screen.
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Got it back up and running again using the old firmware 4.4.4 and also rooted it again.
right, now when i go to install a pre-rooted stock 6.0.1 rom. Do i need to delete CACHE, SYSTEM, DALVIC, DATA or not???? this part is confusing and not mentioned anywhere that i can see.
Right, after messing with this the whole entire day. I am stuck again. So this is what i did.
1- DOWNGRADE to 4.4.4
2- ROOT Z3 USING ONE CLICK ROOT SOLUTION
3- INSTALL [NUT] RECOVERY
4 -ERASE DALVIC, CACHE, SYSTEM, DATA
5- INSTALL PRE ROOTED 6.0.1 ROM
ALL OK.
But that is where i am stuck. The main reason i want a rooted phone is to use xposed. So now i need to boot into recovery to install it.
Recovery is missing?!?!?! ok. So i try to install it again from the instal.bat (NUT) i downloaded earlier. Now phone is in a reboot loop on the sony splash screen. I have done the above process 4 times now, i can confirm the [NUT] RECOVERY does NOT work on marshmallow. Which i am sure has been confirmed many times on here. Is there any other recovery that works on Z3 running marshmallow?
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Right, after messing with this the whole entire day. I am stuck again. So this is what i did.
1- DOWNGRADE to 4.4.4
2- ROOT Z3 USING ONE CLICK ROOT SOLUTION
3- INSTALL [NUT] RECOVERY
4 -ERASE DALVIC, CACHE, SYSTEM, DATA
5- INSTALL PRE ROOTED 6.0.1 ROM
ALL OK.
But that is where i am stuck. The main reason i want a rooted phone is to use xposed. So now i need to boot into recovery to install it.
Recovery is missing?!?!?! ok. So i try to install it again from the instal.bat (NUT) i downloaded earlier. Now phone is in a reboot loop on the sony splash screen. I have done the above process 4 times now, i can confirm the [NUT] RECOVERY does NOT work on marshmallow. Which i am sure has been confirmed many times on here. Is there any other recovery that works on Z3 running marshmallow?
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Back to KK you go.
- Root and install dual recovery
- Enter recovery
- Backup "Trim Area" (This is your TA backup - make sure you enable md5sum check)
- Do all the wipes
- Flash prerooted mm (it should have recovery built-in)
- To enter recovery, reboot and press volume down when the led comes on (It's the only way, reboot recovery apps don't work)
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Back to KK you go.
- Root and install dual recovery
- Enter recovery
- Backup "Trim Area" (This is your TA backup - make sure you enable md5sum check)
- Do all the wipes
- Flash prerooted mm (it should have recovery built-in)
- To enter recovery, reboot and press volume down when the led comes on (It's the only way, reboot recovery apps don't work)
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Thanks shoey, the TA backup you mentioned, do i need this if my bootloader is locked due to using stock roms?.
I think the route i am taking is stock roms.
The pre-rooted stock 6.0.1 UK rom i used doesn't seem to have recovery built in.
Maybe i should wait for [NUT] to release recovery version which works on MM? or is there any other recovery that works with locked bootloader?.
J4G3D said:
Thanks shoey, the TA backup you mentioned, do i need this if my bootloader is locked due to using stock roms?.
I think the route i am taking is stock roms.
The pre-rooted stock 6.0.1 UK rom i used doesn't seem to have recovery built in.
Maybe i should wait for [NUT] to release recovery version which works on MM? or is there any other recovery that works with locked bootloader?.
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You can't have enough TA backups. Even if you only flash stock based roms[emoji14]
Gives peace of mind in case of corrupted partition or whatever.
So your prerooted mm ROM has no recovery? Or you want one specific to your region? You can make one for yourself. Search for PRF Creator and recroot 4.
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You can't have enough TA backups. Even if you only flash stock based roms[emoji14]
Gives peace of mind in case of corrupted partition or whatever.
So your prerooted mm ROM has no recovery? Or you want one specific to your region? You can make one for yourself. Search for PRF Creator and recroot 4.
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Yea the prerooted UK 6.0.1 rom i downloaded from here has no built in recovery. Basically untouched rom other than allowing root. Bummer huh.
J4G3D said:
Yea the prerooted UK 6.0.1 rom i downloaded from here has no built in recovery. Basically untouched rom other than allowing root. Bummer huh.
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If you have root, you can install recovery.
Head over here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=65856403
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If you have root, you can install recovery.
Head over here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=65856403
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Thank you buddy it worked perfectly!
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