Hello folks,
Since a long time now...we all are using mostly these three recoveries:
1)Clockworkmod(CWM) Recovery (by @Koush)
2)PhilZ-Touch Recovery (by @Phil3759)
3)TWRP Recovery (by TeamWin)
...for getting our ROM flashing and other jobs done.
This thread is meant to compare these three recoveries in terms of it's global usage. It's just like a survey.
So...everybody is requested to vote on the poll for their most used recovery. Thanks
Just a few words before you vote:
You are welcomed to post the reason for liking and using the recovery you voted for. But please don't post something like: "I have only Advanced version (without any GUI and Touch) of PhilZ-Touch Recovery for my device, so I like TWRP", "Touch doesn't work in my TWRP, so I like CWM", "I have the latest version of CWM but not of PhilZ-Touch Recovery for my device, So I vote for CWM". These reasons are because your device is not officially supported by the developer of the recovery. Vote here only if you are using/used the officially supported build of the recovery.
Recovery is a choice. So, everybody is gonna like different recovery for their different aspects/advantages. Just vote on the Poll and leave a post so that we can know that which of these recoveries are mostly used by users and why. Multiple options are enabled in the poll but please try to vote in only one option...for the recovery you use the most.
Please NOTE: This thread is no way meant to insult any of the developer(s) of above recoveries. This thread is just to know the popularity of these recoveries among the users...can be rather called a 'survey'.
Vanilla CWM is no match for Philz Advanced edition - way more features and fast backup speed if exfat modules have been incorporated. TWRP comes a close second with its file manager and terminal, and is also very quick
shoey63 said:
Vanilla CWM is no match for Philz Advanced edition - way more features and fast backup speed if exfat modules have been incorporated. TWRP comes a close second with its file manager and terminal, and is also very quick
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I respect your opinion.
But, Are you sure? I hope Vanilla=Stock.
Can you just tell me a feature that's more in vanilla cwm (than philz-touch)?
I do agree that it's code is very neat (really) and the UI is simple...but when it comes to features...TWRP and PhilZ-Touch wins (Acc. to me).
However, cwm has started addition of new features like- Swipe-Touch, Menu color's changing, etc nowadays.
Vanilla (stock) Cwm is no match for Philz = Philz is waaay superior :thumbup: Sorry if my post was confusing to you
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I wouldnt say either is superior to the other. They all have their own lil niches and ppl like each for whatever reason.
They are all good recoveries and choice is good.
PlayfulGod said:
I wouldnt say either is superior to the other. They all have their own lil niches and ppl like each for whatever reason.
They are all good recoveries and choice is good.
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Ofcourse, that's what I said in first post.
My personal rank:
1. PhilZ Touch
2. TWRP
3. Carliv Touch
4. CWM
I'm using MTK6589.
TWRP because PhilZ errors out on CM-11 update
I just installed TWRP on my P3113 because PhilZ-Touch 6.53.6 could not update CM-11 to the 20140810 nightly & the recovery log says that the file could not be found after logging lots of errors.
PhilZ was looking in as: /sdcard/0/cmupdater/cm-11-20140810-NIGHTLY-p3110.zip
whereas the file was in: /storage/emulated/0/cmupdater
Interesting in that the 1st CM-11 was installed by PhilZ by using PhilZ to do a fresh install.......
PhilZ looks to be quite nice but something need to be changed in the location checking for the CM-11's version; don't know if other versions has a change of naming directories for the Tab 2 7 P3113/P3110.
Will be staying with TWRP for now; kinda like the PhilZ tho.
For my opinion, PhylZ can will be the better Recovery because if dev make compatibility theme and add TWRP options supports to PhylZ, it will make a full Recovery :good:
I super like philz one touch 'clean to install new rom'
I just use them but here's my take:
CWM - Older and more known. Works when all others may fail.
Philz - Almost the same as CWM but has more features - including touch for some devices when CWM doesn't have it - and little extra features like cleaning for new ROM which automatically does what you need.
TWRP - IMO it's prettier and has very good features - but the support on devices is less than the older CWM.
So currently I use PhilZ, but using AROMA for GAPPS seems like TWRP would have worked - failed on PhilZ. Found workarounds.
As stated, everyone has reasons for their choices and preferences. Really, I didn't see that much of a pull to go TWRP (used on other devices) since I had alternatives, and I didn't need to go CWM because - IMO - PhilZ is the same with added features.
I have only used TWRP, stock recovery and CF-Auto-Root custom recovery that flashes SuperSU.
PiotrGrochowski said:
I have only used TWRP, stock recovery and CF-Auto-Root custom recovery that flashes SuperSU.
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It was fun helping Phil port his recovery to other devices, but it is now deprecated, and the dev no longer active. TWRP is the way forward now.
Philz is the best, always
Hello folks Philz is my favourite and the best recovery always. Maybe u for not know, after the release of TWRP I had contacted Koushik Koush Dutta to involve the special features of TWRP in the next version of CWM. But he was busy working in Cyanogen so he appointed Philip who then developed the CWM Advanced edition Philz Touch.
Now let me say why should u must use Philz or if not possible then CWM touch. Recovery refers to a mode on an Android device to recover and save your device during any emergency. By chance of the touch screen of it phone gets damaged then u can use non touch facility in CWM or Philz.
So if possible use CWM and Philz, and if it's not available for urgent device then contact me on : [email protected]
I will help u out.
Thank You...
i like: "They are all good recoveries and choice is good"
I have only used TWRP for the time being, but it seems to be the only recovery I will ever need.
Feature-packed, simple to use and just plain awesome!
Bhargav97 said:
Hello folks,
Since a long time now...we all are using mostly these three recoveries:
1)Clockworkmod(CWM) Recovery (by @Koush)
2)PhilZ-Touch Recovery (by @Phil3759)
3)TWRP Recovery (by TeamWin)
...for getting our ROM flashing and other jobs done.
This thread is meant to compare these three recoveries in terms of it's global usage. It's just like a survey.
So...everybody is requested to vote on the poll for their most used recovery. Thanks
Just a few words before you vote:
You are welcomed to post the reason for liking and using the recovery you voted for. But please don't post something like: "I have only Advanced version (without any GUI and Touch) of PhilZ-Touch Recovery for my device, so I like TWRP", "Touch doesn't work in my TWRP, so I like CWM", "I have the latest version of CWM but not of PhilZ-Touch Recovery for my device, So I vote for CWM". These reasons are because your device is not officially supported by the developer of the recovery. Vote here only if you are using/used the officially supported build of the recovery.
Recovery is a choice. So, everybody is gonna like different recovery for their different aspects/advantages. Just vote on the Poll and leave a post so that we can know that which of these recoveries are mostly used by users and why. Multiple options are enabled in the poll but please try to vote in only one option...for the recovery you use the most.
Please NOTE: This thread is no way meant to insult any of the developer(s) of above recoveries. This thread is just to know the popularity of these recoveries among the users...can be rather called a 'survey'.
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in my opinion, twrp is better as it offers more options and it has an interface built from scratch.
Related
Hello, I saw here : http://mirrorbrain.cyanogenmod.com/cm/recoveries/
that the recovery clockworkmod v3.1.0.0 is arrived ! But on the Nexus S, the recovery official is the 3.0.2.4 and the recovery custom v3.0.2.5 (thx)
But, I like have the update to recovery, so I wanna know if there are the recovery 3.1.0.0 for the Nexus S or if a person can modified the recovery 3.1.0.0 in order to it work on the NS ???
Thanx
No idea where those 3.1.0.0 come from. The latest version in the source repository is 3.0.2.8.
However, looking over the commits, there seems no reason for you to upgrade, since you already have 3.0.2.5, which removes the menu entries for hard bricking your phone (format bootloader, radio, recovery).
How you knows that the last recovery clockworkmod is the 3.0.2.8 ?
It's bizar because there are recoveries 3.1.0.0 .... ?
You can look at the git repository commit log:
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_bootable_recovery/commits/gingerbread
The version is in the Androik.mk file line 29:
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_bootable_recovery/blob/gingerbread/Android.mk
It says 3.0.2.8.
If this was even a genuine clockworkmod why would you want it ?
i dont see any point in rushing to get the updates before they are supported through rom manager ,, unless it adds many extra features you need!!
Okey. Thx for your posts
dopeypopey123 said:
If this was even a genuine clockworkmod why would you want it ?
i dont see any point in rushing to get the updates before they are supported through rom manager ,, unless it adds many extra features you need!!
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Rom manager is showing 3.1.0.0 as the current version.
Hi
I am currently using ClockWorkMod 5.0.2.0 on my Sensation, and have not really been following the discussions on the new recoveries from TeamWin and 4EXT.
So I am wondering; is ClockWorkMod not developed anymore?
What are the benefits of changing to a different Recovery?
Prettier GUI, ability to theme, and better user interface aren't really valid point to me. I do not spend that much time in recovery, and do not find the ClockWorkMod to be any hassle at all.
Any insights or personal experiences are appreciated.
betelgeuse74 said:
What are the benefits of changing to a different Recovery?
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CWR has everything you need to the average user - erasing partitions, zeroing the cache, creating backups and installing zip from SD. I do not see a point to go to another recovery mod.
I don't see it to but ARHD developer change all of us using this rom to EXT4 so i am happy with that now i
danilo081 said:
I don't see it to but ARHD developer change all of us using this rom to EXT4 so i am happy with that now i
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There seems to a common confusion between the ext4 filesystem and the 4ext recovery. Although the OP incorrectly stated ext4, what is actually being discussed is 4ext.
The ext4 filesystem is used by ARHD, not the 4ext recovery. No responsible dev that I know of includes a recovery image in their ROM.
*edit* I didn't realize that ARHD does flash the recovery image. I'm not sure why the dev cares what recovery people use though.
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No responsible dev that I know of includes a recovery image in their ROM.
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Well there is a recovery image included in ARHD, 4EXT.
Thank you for pointing out my typo, and sorry for any confusion it might have caused.
I installed 4EXT trial version, and it looks great, actually.
I'm not sure I'm going to buy it (even though it doesn't cost much)
For me, ClockWorkMod works just fine and its no problem at all to perform the tasks I need during a upgrade/new flash.
But does anyone know if CWM is still developed?
4EXT is based on CWM it says...
betelgeuse74 said:
Thank you for pointing out my typo, and sorry for any confusion it might have caused.
I installed 4EXT trial version, and it looks great, actually.
I'm not sure I'm going to buy it (even though it doesn't cost much)
For me, ClockWorkMod works just fine and its no problem at all to perform the tasks I need during a upgrade/new flash.
But does anyone know if CWM is still developed?
4EXT is based on CWM it says...
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You don't need to buy it! The recovery itself and even the recovery updater is free. The only thing you can buy is the recovery control app which allows you to do multiple recovery actions within the rom.. You can try it 3days for free! I love it :-D
Pete
Hi all,
is there any posibility to use ROM Manger with 4ext revcovery?
ROM manager is for clockwork mod. If you use 4ext, there is no need for ROM manager. Btw. 4ext is a lot more functional
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It true for "recovery". But I would like to use ROM Manager to download "google apps" and ROMs
masterl1983 said:
It true for "recovery". But I would like to use ROM Manager to download "google apps" and ROMs
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I think for download purposes you can "fool" the ROM manager choosing "manual Flash Override" in settings menu
masterl1983 said:
It true for "recovery". But I would like to use ROM Manager to download "google apps" and ROMs
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You can still use ROM manager to download whatever you want. And flash those files from Recovery. You don't have to have CWM installed for that... downloading stuff is a function of the app, not the recovery. For all recovery related purposes, 4EXT will do just fine... When you choose reboot into recovery, you'll still be taken to 4EXT Recovery.
Go ahead, test it out and post your observations here.
While you can download ROMs through ROM Manager, you cannot perform functions like flash ROMs and reboot to recovery through ROM Manager while using 4EXT recovery. Use the 4EXT Recovery Control App
The reason is that Koush (the guy who made CWM and ROM Manager) used specific code in his app/recovery that enabled them to perform these functions. madmaxx (the guy who made 4Ext) couldn't use this code, as Koush didn't reply to his PM's asking for permission. So, he designed his own app with different code. IMO, it's better and a LOT more functional than ROM Manager
shrome99 said:
While you can download ROMs through ROM Manager, you cannot perform functions like flash ROMs and reboot to recovery through ROM Manager while using 4EXT recovery. Use the 4EXT Recovery Control App
The reason is that Koush (the guy who made CWM and ROM Manager) used specific code in his app/recovery that enabled them to perform these functions. madmaxx (the guy who made 4Ext) couldn't use this code, as Koush didn't reply to his PM's asking for permission. So, he designed his own app with different code. IMO, it's better and a LOT more functional than ROM Manager
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That's right. If you, for some reason, OP still wants to use ROM manager instead of 4EXT Recovery Control, he can use ROM Manager to download whatever he wants, then boot into recovery, and flash the add-ons from recovery. (I understand that's what the OP was asking for... to be able to download ROMs etc using ROM Manager). Foe full control however, i would obviously recommend 4EXT Recovery Control.
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That's right. If you, for some reason, OP still wants to use ROM manager instead of 4EXT Recovery Control, he can use ROM Manager to download whatever he wants, then boot into recovery, and flash the add-ons from recovery. (I understand that's what the OP was asking for... to be able to download ROMs etc using ROM Manager). Foe full control however, i would obviously recommend 4EXT Recovery Control.
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digging up a bit of an old thread here but if you were to use rom managers add zip feature to load a chain of say 4 zips to flash would that work and then flash through 4ext. if not does 4ext control have that function?
GGLDN said:
digging up a bit of an old thread here but if you were to use rom managers add zip feature to load a chain of say 4 zips to flash would that work and then flash through 4ext. if not does 4ext control have that function?
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yea 4ext control had this feature and you can do a lot more.
Sent from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3. WAKE UP HTC!!!!
suku_patel_22 said:
yea 4ext control had this feature and you can do a lot more.
Sent from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3. WAKE UP HTC!!!!
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yup i'm instantly in love with it, it fixed an issue where charging while phone was off automatically booted recovery too
Hi
Everyone is talking about this aroma something to wipe before flashing new roms
I googled it, but i found there are 2 aromas, installer and file manager
Which one is used to do the full wipe?
Do i need both software?
Thank you
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bombamanz said:
Hi
Everyone is talking about this aroma something to wipe before flashing new roms
I googled it, but i found there are 2 aromas, installer and file manager
Which one is used to do the full wipe?
Do i need both software?
Thank you
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Aroma is a dev tool allowing a graphical user interface for users installing custom roms. It is customized by a dev to allow users the ability to add/change/modify rom features and settings. For our device there are 3 roms installed through aroma though only 2 give us the option to perform a wipe android revolution hd by mike1986 and omega by indie when running the script from your recovery it launches aroma installer and both of the mentioned roms give you the option of wiping your device before continuing with setup. Be careful of which recovery you use, most users agree the newer cwm recoveries dont like aroma and freeze on some screens. Not a huge deal as this just requires a reboot which will bring you back to cwm. The original high on android from the android dev how to root guide by zedomax seems to work well and from personal experience i can tell you twrp works as well. Hope this helps
Specialp said:
Aroma is a dev tool allowing a graphical user interface for users installing custom roms. It is customized by a dev to allow users the ability to add/change/modify rom features and settings. For our device there are 3 roms installed through aroma though only 2 give us the option to perform a wipe android revolution hd by mike1986 and omega by indie when running the script from your recovery it launches aroma installer and both of the mentioned roms give you the option of wiping your device before continuing with setup. Be careful of which recovery you use, most users agree the newer cwm recoveries dont like aroma and freeze on some screens. Not a huge deal as this just requires a reboot which will bring you back to cwm. The original high on android from the android dev how to root guide by zedomax seems to work well and from personal experience i can tell you twrp works as well. Hope this helps
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First off, I have the N8013, not sure what you have. I found your post because i couldn't figure out what this damn aroma thing everyone is talking about is. so thanks for your response on that.
But i have a question, what version on TWRP are/were you using? Did you just install it from goomanager or rommanager(clockwork) or did you have to flash from odin?
I'm not excited about using this high on android recovery, so when you said you used twrp i figured i would ask.
Best recovery is:
eggwardo said:
First off, I have the N8013, not sure what you have. I found your post because i couldn't figure out what this damn aroma thing everyone is talking about is. so thanks for your response on that.
But i have a question, what version on TWRP are/were you using? Did you just install it from goomanager or rommanager(clockwork) or did you have to flash from odin?
I'm not excited about using this high on android recovery, so when you said you used twrp i figured i would ask.
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Some RECOVERY had problems with aroma instaler. I tried a lot of them CWM, TRW etc. but only one of them have no problem when I instaling something where was the aroma been. This Recovery is in my signature. Here : HighOnAndroid Recovery
Even KitKat custom ROMs I flashed without problem.
It's my opinion only, but I'm very satisfied with it! Peter
Hello, I'm using T-Mobile (UK) HTC One SV with JB (rooted)
I follows this link to root my phone and thus I've got the JB CWM version listed in the link.
The problem is when I boot into recovery mode into the CWM, the screen is shifted a bit to left and the cropped/shifted part is appearing on the right! (I hope I'm making some sense with this 'shifted screen' explanation. I'd like to post a screenshot if someone can help me with getting a screenshot in recoverymode) Anybody else facing this problem? If yes, how can I fix it?
On a slightly different note, I'd like to admit that whilst following the rooting procedure mentioned above, I tried to be a 'smart arse' and tried flashing CWM 6.0.3.8 on the device, which just wouldn't load /data with error
Code:
Can't mount /data
and same with cache and respective logs. And because of that I wasn't able to do a backup either. I tried, quite a few times, to format the SD card into FAT32 etc but it was having none of it! :crying:. Then when I slapped myself for not following the procedure, like a good boy , and got the same CWM listed in the link, I was able to do backup and no errors were being displayed in regards to mounting of /data. :good: I thought I'd share my experience on for others to learn from.
This screen flickering is a know problem of this touch recovery.
Its not developed to the end.
I recommend you to use TWRP recovery which is fully functional.
old.splatterhand said:
This screen flickering is a know problem of this touch recovery.
Its not developed to the end.
I recommend you to use TWRP recovery which is fully functional.
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Thanks for quick reply. I've never used TWRP and to be honest, quite new to this depth of rooting, recovery etc. Does TWRP offer similar set of features as CWM? And is there a 'touch' TWRP for this device on JB? If so, could you kindly post me the link.
Most up to date version you will find here:
[TWRP 2.6] Updated 9/21/13 All variants TWRP recovery 2.6
Another (older):
[Recovery] TWRP Recovery 2.x
Yes, all touch and has more features than cwm.
old.splatterhand said:
Most up to date version you will find here:
[TWRP 2.6] Updated 9/21/13 All variants TWRP recovery 2.6
Another (older):
[Recovery] TWRP Recovery 2.x
Yes, all touch and has more features than cwm.
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Thanks a lot! I shall give it a try