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Are you still happy with your Nexus-S ?

I have to say I am still pretty happy with my Nexus-S 4G. I am loving the stock/vanilla Android OS, after trying many different ROM's and launchers, I always seem to go back to the "pure" launcher and style. I do have the Oxygen ROM which is the base Android OS just tweaked and stripped to be very fast with good battery life.
I was tempted to get the Sprint Galaxy S2, while it is a great phone, probably the best Android device for sale right now, it just did not seem night and day radically better than my Nexus-S. The S II still runs Gingerbread and looks so similar to my Nexus I don't see the need to get that phone right now. And my Nexus is not slow by any means. I am eagerly waiting for the reveal of the next Nexus-Three device with "Ice Cream", that would be the first to tempt me away, or at least get Ice Cream running stock on my Nexus-S.
If there is any beef with this phone, it is the radio/network, and Sprint's poor 3G service lately. Hopefully we get good news next month when the CEO of Sprint discusses the future network plans on Oct 7th.
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Yeah I'm not complaining at all about it. I was running Pete's bb rom before this and his rooted stock before that. Now, I'm running miui. I thought, coming from the preference of vanilla ui, that who in the hell would want a rom that's a cross bastardized version of ios and touchwiz? I am/was under the thought that ios was very limited on what could be done with it.
Miui is really starting to grow on me. I'm almost ashamed to admit I'm getting the itch to get a new phone after my ns4g and it being the iPhone. I definitely want the nexus 3 too but those phones will probably be released very close to each other.
Unfortunately, I will have to deal with the looks and comments from my old lady, whenever I get a new phone. I will not give my ns4g to her because I see how she treats phones. I suppose one thing that would keep her quiet is if I got her an iPhone too. About 1500 for two new phones, full price, not eligible for upgrades yet. Sigh, it's only money right?

Yes.
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I plan to run this phone til the wheels come off.
Sent from the future to put right what once went wrong.

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I plan to run this phone til the wheels come off.
Sent from the future to put right what once went wrong.
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+1 x 10 = hell yeaaaaa.
I came from the g2x and can never be happier with this ns4g
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nexus s is my first smartphone and i would not try another the next time ...

FlatEric0074 said:
nexus s is my first smartphone and i would not try another the next time ...
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Nexus s is my first REAL smartphone

I've had or used extensively a mt3g, epic 4g, evo 4g, evo shift 4g, Droid x, huawei ascend 2 and an iPhone 3gs and of those I like my nexus the best. However, my mother in law just got a sensation 4g and if I'm honest, I think I'd enjoy that better.
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So I take it you prefer android over iPhone? Care to share your reasons for liking one and not liking the other?

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So I take it you prefer android over iPhone? Care to share your reasons for liking one and not liking the other?
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Open source. Multitasking. Variety. Google. Etc.
Edit: scratch that. Nexus S 4G.
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IMO, Nexus S is a piece of outdated hardware, since day 1, when it was release last year December 2010, at that very same time its brothers/cousins have been having way much better spec than it does.
the pure Android experience was not as fun as promised by the Nexus One hyped owners promised
So my next device will most definitely not be Nexus 3, which is yet another outdated antique, its SGS2 brothers/cousins has waaaaaaaaay better hardware than it does.
and we all know by now that support across Samsung devices is thriving like CM7 and all the countless of customized kernels and mods that you can find
The 2nd reason why i picked Nexus S, was simply because it was unlocked and works on AWS signal
there was nothing at the time, else i'd have most likely gone for a better phone
the lack of the SD slot is a major drawback, can't do things as i used to, i'm not having fun as i used to, all because of the missing space, the phone is just a phone right now, can't enjoy it as it ran out of space all the time, no matter how much stuff i send up to the clouds, there is never enough space for me
clouds is not cheap either if you don't have an unlimited internet for the phone
and the 3G speed is not that great to send up and down 500 meg of data whenever you feel like playing another game, or watching another movie
i'm sure this phone is more than enough or even great for most people, but i'm not most people

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So I take it you prefer android over iPhone? Care to share your reasons for liking one and not liking the other?
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I personally prefer android because of the ease of customization that can be done even without rooting. iOS devices are great, don't get me wrong. I'm not an iHater, but for me and my uses they don't work as well as Android. The reason iOS is so great is that it just works. Period. From the first boot to the last, an iOS device is going to work exactly like Apple intended it to.
The Android Vs. Apple debate is much akin to the Win Vs Mac debate. Apple builds its software to work on its hardware and it does, thats the reason I buy Mac laptops; in the 6 years I've owned them I've had three issues two of which were hardware failures and one was my wife's fault (she spilled soda on the keyboard). All three of the issues were solved on the spot by Apple with a total of 5 hours and $0.00 of my time and money lost to waiting and repairs. Five hours. When my wife's Compaq laptop got its THIRD motherboard recall in TWO years it took me three hours on the phone to find out I had found out about the recall one week late and was then told it would cost me $400 dollars and 4-6 weeks to get it. I ended up having to manually recover what data I could from her hard drive and the rest was lost.
Windows machines allow the user to do much more personal customization and give them much more choice in terms of hardware but the cost of that is a much higher level of system failure. Its the same way with android. I can't begin to account for the hours I've wasted setting up and customizing my wife's and my phones only to have issues come up and its all lost. I've lost count of the number of times I've had to run terminal commands to get my phone to even boot. If I had an iOS device, that probably wouldn't happen but I'd also not feel like my phone UI looks and runs like I want it to.
In a rather long-winded and round-a-bout way, the point I'm getting at is that if you want a phone that simply works, makes calls, gets texts, so and and so forth then iPhone is a great choice. But if you want a phone that you can hack to bits and make to be a reflection of your personality then Android is you choice. That's my opinion at least.

yes and no
leagues happier than my iphone but some what less impressed by others android phones. But hey it was free.

I don't understand everyone complaining of a lack of SD slot. It mounts so you can use it as a portable drive, it also allows a much higher I/O. There's not one thing that a removable SD card would allow me to do more than what I can do now except potentially lose a tiny piece of my phone.
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the internal SD doesn't have enough space, it just as simple as that
13GB fills up in a blink of an eye

I'm still happy with it for the most part. The only serious gripe I have at this point is RAM; it doesn't have enough to deal with the number of apps that like to run in the background eating up those tiny 2-5 MB chunks these days, and it doesn't always dump them from memory efficiently enough to play memory-intensive games nicely without first going in and killing processes. Also, it just came back from its second Best Buy repair, so... a little touchy hardware-wise perhaps.
I like vanilla Google and am not a huge fan of rooting and modding, though, so I'd be reluctant to move away from the Nexus line. I just hope the next one has a lot more RAM, and keeps a larger portion of it free at any given time for gaming. And is maybe less prone to needing to be fixed. >.>

RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background

AllGamer said:
RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
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Seriously? 75mb? Running services will always show me 240mb+ free ram.
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AllGamer said:
RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
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The problem is when apps and games do run in the background, and there's no way to close them completely without going through task manager. Granted that's as much a complaint about the apps in question as about Android itself, but there will always be apps that don't behave properly in all respects. The OS should be able to handle them without user intervention.

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The problem is when apps and games do run in the background, and there's no way to close them completely without going through task manager. Granted that's as much a complaint about the apps in question as about Android itself, but there will always be apps that don't behave properly in all respects. The OS should be able to handle them without user intervention.
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Every app I exit out of, I exit with the back button for an exit dialog or use the menu-exit option. Never have 'stuff running'.
Some apps have components that always run(new facebook and google+ updates), I uninstall those apps and use the browser.
I don't experience what you're describing.
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Reasons Not to buy an iPhone

So in what ways you think than Android is better than IOS
Heres what i got
iPhones have:
Smaller screens
Slower Data Speeds
Lower Durability
Slower prosseser
Very Boring UI
No Flash
No download support from Browser
No themes/Launcher (Unless its Jailbroken)
Anything to add here?

Camera can't compare to the Amaze
no video chat over mobile data
no third party music player or video player
no way to install apps other than through app store
TETHERED TO ITUNES FOR ALL MEDIA CONTENT -_____-
no expandable memory
cant replace/remove battery

alx294 said:
Camera can't compare to the Amaze
no video chat over mobile data
no third party music player or video player
no way to install apps other than through app store
TETHERED TO ITUNES FOR ALL MEDIA CONTENT -_____-
cant replace/remove battery
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Does Installous count

Lame ass apps, that are very unstable, eg. Infinity blade (from my own experience). Veeerryy low ram for standards that android phones have set these days. And a ui that hasn't changed for years
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It's Apple
Chuck Norris can but Walker Texas Ranger can't.

-the fact that Apple releases so called "improved" iphone every year with barely any changes
-no widgets
-sometimes a hassle to update the software

UI, and Screens are just your opinions. not really facts; not nececarilly a bad thing. the processor of the 4s isnt slow, but its pointless in the iphone. other than that im with you! i could never use a screen that small lol

1-boring UI
2-using iOS is like living in a cage
3-its a dream phone for kids,cheerleader,*****,chloe kardashian

kecikhebat said:
1-boring UI
2-using iOS is like living in a cage
3-its a dream phone for kids,cheerleader,*****,chloe kardashian, justin bieber
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fixed what you said

It's the epitome of complacency

Custom keyboards!
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Well atleast u get software updates on iphone ...
the only bad thing id have to say about IOS is the lack of custimizability, some poeple like the simplicity of iOS nto everyone wants to flash ... but the most important thing for me was Unlockability. Amaze > and the camera ofcourse which is one of the best out there. but i did like the weight and shape of iphone 4 and battery life was not bad either

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This is the main reason.

Honestly my main reason is "boring"
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I honestly think IOS is better and would get one for the wife if it was on T-Mobile. I can manage with Android since it allows me to do a little more than I would be able to if I had an IOS device. WHat I like about IOS is the apps are of much higher quality.
For someone like my wife the iphone would be better. She complains about the random reboots, apps crashing and some of the other annoyances that come with Android so I know she would love the iphone.

O just don't like ios too mainstream
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95% of Apple iPhone users I have met all have been complete and utter morons that would follow their precious phones if it was thrown off a cliff.
Being 110% cereal too! I even let people know that are decent that I am utter shock they own an iPhone, lol!
I am no follower. Hell I used BB for 6 years....
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iOS is smoother than Android and handles most things better. Android wasn't meant to have a touch interface since it was first made to compete with Blackberry and other systems that used a trackball/keyboard rather than a touchscreen slate. So as a result, they didn't bother starting from scratch and decided to just implement touchscreen onto their existing revisions... Not saying Android is bad by any means, but there are things that iOS does properly that Android does not. For example, the touch delay that exists in every Android device will most likely never be solved due to the architecture of the OS - to see this delay, go play Fruit Ninja or something and you'll notice that the sword trail is always lagging behind your finger and is never directly under your finger while you're moving.
However, I despise Apple with a passion. Their products are great, but they are also immensely overpriced and restrictive. They market their products in a dishonest way to trick the common consumer into thinking that it's the greatest thing on the planet. However, they do tend to take care of their customers in terms of updates, unlike Android because even the iPhone 3GS got their latest iOS 5 update while we're still waiting for an ICS update.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557484
These 2 videos say it all eventhough it's slightly biased.

adslee said:
iOS is smoother than Android and handles most things better. Android wasn't meant to have a touch interface since it was first made to compete with Blackberry and other systems that used a trackball/keyboard rather than a touchscreen slate. So as a result, they didn't bother starting from scratch and decided to just implement touchscreen onto their existing revisions... Not saying Android is bad by any means, but there are things that iOS does properly that Android does not. For example, the touch delay that exists in every Android device will most likely never be solved due to the architecture of the OS - to see this delay, go play Fruit Ninja or something and you'll notice that the sword trail is always lagging behind your finger and is never directly under your finger while you're moving.
However, I despise Apple with a passion. Their products are great, but they are also immensely overpriced and restrictive. They market their products in a dishonest way to trick the common consumer into thinking that it's the greatest thing on the planet. However, they do tend to take care of their customers in terms of updates, unlike Android because even the iPhone 3GS got their latest iOS 5 update while we're still waiting for an ICS update.
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+1. Example of smoothness - open web browser in both iPhone and a high end android phone like amaze, open a webpage and trying scrolling - you will see iPhone is significantly smoother than amaze. Any improvements in hardware (you can have quad core processor and a 4 gb of ram) won't make up for a not-so-good architecture. OS update is another big issue with all android manufacturers. If I buy a phone on a 2 year contract, I should get updates for 2 years. Apple provides updates for older devices as long as old hardware can handle it and look at the android world - mytouch4g slide is more than capable of running ICS but HTC/TMO won't provide update and indirectly force customers to buy new device with little to no hardware improvement long before their contract is over. Having said that, I still like my amaze for a couple extra features and data service that tmo provides.
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Swapping back and forth between OSes.

First of all, I'm a die hard WP7 user through and through. Social interaction, stability, and quick gaming, as well as a good ecosystem of interconnected services are what I'm after in a phone, and so it's the ideal option for me. That said, I try to be as fair as possible in my judgment of other devices. I recently picked up a Nokia N9 and an Xperia play as alternate phones to my Lumia 800 (which has since been upgraded to the Lumia 900) for comparison purposes. The first thing I tested on these two devices, since it's the one thing I miss on WP7, is emulation. Honestly, despite the perfect controls on the xperia, I kept going back to the more "pure" Linux experience of meego for emulation. This was due primarily to the app emumaster which has all your basic emulators cooked into one app with great developer support and outstanding framework. The xperia's controls are awesome, but the low quality of the ps1 emulators I could find left a lot to be desired. The feature that Android really stole the show with, was the market. I left android October of 2010 for the most part aside from picking up random great deals on Craigslist. I most recently tried the Gnex, and it seemed to have a lot of the issues that put me on the prowl in the first place still, so I was not smitten. However, the progression of the app market is phenomenal, a far cry from the doldrum mess that I was forced to search through in my time with android. The new Google Play point is great and feels a lot less like a beta test than it did before. While I'll always prefer WP7's dynamic UI, I much preferred Meego's to android's. There are no "official" widgets yet, but even without, the three home screens have all the info you need and the lock screen is great. It offers a, "sleeping clock" feature where even when the phone is asleep, the clock is still displayed, as well as your notifications. After double tapping on that, you have more specific notifications over a background pic of your choosing, you can swipe on any of these to open the app direct, or just swipe the whole homescreen off which leads to the homescreens, one has all your apps complete with folders. The next, shows all the apps you have currently running. True multi-tasking an astonishing 19 apps and no real hiccups. Amazing. Then, there's your notifications tab, it keeps your notifications as well as a list of your social network mews feed on hand. Everything just feels easy and intuitive. Android, sadly, still felt pretty much the same, I guess if it's not broke, don't fix it, but there's better UI options. Overall, the xperia Play got the least play, not because it's a bad device, but it's just not what I need. The N9 is great, but suffers some of the same issues android does. It is, however, a good meeting point between android and WP7 and was abandoned far too early. Neither pulled me from WP7, but unfortunately, I now try to double-tap my 900 to unlock it.

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Not sure what the point of this post is.
E; oh, text wall. It looks like copying it misconstrued my formatting.

That should've stuck with Meego. That would've been a real 4th OS.
Nokia can't shine with Wp7.
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That should've stuck with Meego. That would've been a real 4th OS.
Nokia can't shine with Wp7.
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The Lumia 900 seems to be doing quite well for itself, replacing the iPhone as ATT's hero device. I can't wait to see what the 610 does in India.

I read somewhere that at&t associates doin a disservice for customers. It seems iPhone is still the hero device, salespeople still pushing the iPhone and not giving the lumia900 a chance.
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They sell what they know, unfortunately most att reps know little about phones.

wendellc said:
I read somewhere that at&t associates doin a disservice for customers. It seems iPhone is still the hero device, salespeople still pushing the iPhone and not giving the lumia900 a chance.
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Yh my mum went to the store and I went with her as I know more about phones than the actual sales reps.she told them,I need a high end device,they told her don't look at anything else but an iPhone 4 s,I told them y? Answer: "because its an iPhone,hazzz market,better touch screen and its an.....iPhone etc u get the point." I just loled

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Yh my mum went to the store and I went with her as I know more about phones than the actual sales reps.she told them,I need a high end device,they told her don't look at anything else but an iPhone 4 s,I told them y? Answer: "because its an iPhone,hazzz market,better touch screen and its an.....iPhone etc u get the point." I just loled
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Wow for them just to say that I will say one thing well a couple.
1st smart phone - w as iPhone 3GS 16gb. Loved it..... When I had it.
2 nd smart phone - htc hd7. Was okay not many apps. Hated metro tiles.
3rd smart phone -galaxy s2 i9100- LOVE IT MORE THEN ANYTHING. Awesome phone. Went to go get a iPhone 4s . But I thought and my friend said u have to try andriod. Now he was right not goin to any other Os ever again.
For her to say iPhone as a high end device is funny.

Splashtop 2 HD free for a limited time

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad.v2
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...in-the-play-store-is-free-for-a-limited-time/
I'm not totally sure how many features listed in the press release (located at the android police link above) are actually new over the splashtop we have in Asus cloud. It does appear to have a new interface and different security methods. One thing I'd love to have is a virtual second monitor, but I don't see that listed as an option.
It also appears to have lost the free google chat api IP location feature in favor of splashtop access anywhere subscription fee. But I never used that feature anyway.

Holy smokes, it seems they royally pissed off many of their customers. What the hell happened? The reviews are insane.

Several one star reviews appear to have been left before the app became free, to read them. They were mad because ipad users who were existing splashtop 1 customers got a free upgrade and they didn't. But it is free now (and today is the first day of splashtop 2 for android I believe), so they must have reviewed it just after it was listed. Probably some others are mad about the subscription model.

Existing customers of splashtop on the ipad were offered to upgrade to splashtop 2 for free. In addition they would receive the remote access feature outside of the same network for free. New customers will need to subscribe. The android version of splashtop 2 makes no such claim hence the horrible reviews.
http://support-remote.splashtop.com...get-a-free-anywhere-access-pack-for-ipad-only
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So is it free inside the same network, but you have to pay for remote access? Thats not bad since my main attraction is accessing my servers upstairs, but I really dont mind just picking up the laptop, it would be useful though at time.

No monthly fee inside the network but the thing is its free inside or outside the network with splashtop 1 and it looks like it will continue to function for free since it runs through google. I assume the fee is to maintain their own splashtop servers that will manage the data now.
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No monthly fee inside the network but the thing is its free inside or outside the network with splashtop 1 and it looks like it will continue to function for free since it runs through google. I assume the fee is to maintain their own splashtop servers that will manage the data now.
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Will check them both out, I appreciate that clarification.

Can someone highlight the major differences between this version and the THD version?

THD is optimized for Tegra devices. Really, the only major difference is that it runs better graphics wise. There's a video out there where someone is playing Skyrim on their tablet.
Sent from my Transformer Infinity!

The only thing i wish this app would do is let me open Windows Media Center in full screen while watching tv.

Chief Geek said:
Will check them both out, I appreciate that clarification.
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You understand you already have splashtop 1, right? In asus mycloud. Really I've never heard of anyone being quite so generous with actually useful extra software as asus.
Can someone highlight the major differences between this version and the THD version?
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THD is optimized for Tegra devices. Really, the only major difference is that it runs better graphics wise. There's a video out there where someone is playing Skyrim on their tablet.
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There are also UI changes, improved security, and supposedly, better optimization (less bandwidth used). My guess is the gulf will widen as splashtop 2 matures. There's zero reason not to go ahead and grab this on your account for free while you still can. Easiest decision ever.

Just want to add that this was in the support section of the splashtop site:
Why does Splashtop 2 have a Subscription Model?
We are maintaining a global relay server infrastructure to support Splashtop 2 users. We have related on-going costs to support the reliability, security, and high performance of Splashtop 2 over the Internet and 3G networks. Your support allows us to continue to invest in and deliver best-in-class products for our users.
Makes sense.
But it's still annoying the existing Splashtop iPad users get it permanently.

I sent a ticket to Splashtop about the issue. I did get the 1 year free but I am still going to fight tooth and nail to get the perma because it is completely unfair.
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I tried out version 2 yesterday, and one nice thing I noticed was that the desktop mouse actually followed the tablet mouse around, making mouseovers and other things easier. I seem to recall in splashtop one (asus mycloud) you had to tap somewhere to get the cursor in place. I didn't exactly do a back to back comparison, but I felt like it was sharper and less jerky as well, possibly due to more optimization.

fortunz said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad.v2
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...in-the-play-store-is-free-for-a-limited-time/
I'm not totally sure how many features listed in the press release (located at the android police link above) are actually new over the splashtop we have in Asus cloud. It does appear to have a new interface and different security methods. One thing I'd love to have is a virtual second monitor, but I don't see that listed as an option.
It also appears to have lost the free google chat api IP location feature in favor of splashtop access anywhere subscription fee. But I never used that feature anyway.
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Awesome find!!! I am actually using splashtop right now to post this with my tablet through my desktop

fandry said:
Awesome find!!! I am actually using splashtop right now to post this with my tablet through my desktop
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For what it's worth, SplashTop HD V1 (which comes with the TF700) actually has more features than version 2! Internet discovery is free in V1, but they charge a monthly fee for the same thing in V2! I actually paid for the HD version of Splashtop V1 - and now they want me to update to a "subscription" model? I don't think so! App upgrades should be free and not take away features.
So, if you need the ability to connect to a PC via the internet, stick with the version that came with your Transformer....
What's really messed up is that existing iPad users get Internet Discovery for free (for life) because of a "glitch" in the way the Splashtop authors wrote the app (or some BS like that)!
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After the backlash they've gotten after they did release the app for free, they probably will start hating android users as they've been accused of in the reviews. iOS users have paid way more for their software overall than we have, we have way more freebies. But the one time they get a better deal, our side throws the world's biggest tantrum and makes devs everywhere wonder once again why they'd want to commit too many resources to android development. This is why we have a larger install base, but they still have better apps. Get a grip.

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After the backlash they've gotten after they did release the app for free, they probably will start hating android users as they've been accused of in the reviews. iOS users have paid way more for their software overall than we have, we have way more freebies. But the one time they get a better deal, our side throws the world's biggest tantrum and makes devs everywhere wonder once again why they'd want to commit too many resources to android development. This is why we have a larger install base, but they still have better apps. Get a grip.
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The bigger problem is that I actually PAID for the HD version of Splashtop V1 and they said upgrades would be free (just like any other Android app). Now that they've come out with "Version 2" (and made it "free"), if I were to "upgrade", I just wouldn't have the same functionality that I originally paid for!
So when I asked about this, they said that version 2 wasn't really an "upgrade", but an entirely different product - so then why is it called "Version 2"??? The problem is that while version 1 is still usable, I'm sure they are not going to continue to update it, so in effect, I'm left with a "dead" product and would have to pay *again* (via the subscription fees) for features that I already paid for to stay with the current product.
It's bad business and obviously others aren't happy about it either (regardless of Apple "free upgrades" for life BS). All that they had to to was to continue to provide BOTH methods of connection over the internet in "Version 2" - they I could stay continue to do what I've always done and stayed on a current version of the software.
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I don't agree with you anymore than I did before, but I do regret the "get a grip" (which is more appropriate explicitly directed at play store reviewers who have gone overboard) remark. It was unnecessary, mea culpa.
Major version upgrades always screw someone -- the person who buys win7 right before win8 debuts (although in that specific case -- maybe they dodged a bullet ), or a gingerbread device just old enough to not get further upgrades, or Black Ops 1 just before Black Ops 2 gets a released date. I've been that person, and it sucks. But you do still have what you paid for in this case, and then some. Sales screw people too -- the ones who bought a little too early or a little too late. You can't please everyone. Given that support for the older version has either ended or will taper off, it isn't the best deal you've ever gotten, but then sometimes you get a lot more support for a lot longer than you expect, and it all comes out in the wash. This case is certainly no cause to declare splashtop some sort of lying, cheating, thieving enemy of freedom and democracy.

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I don't agree with you anymore than I did before, but I do regret the "get a grip" (which is more appropriate explicitly directed at play store reviewers who have gone overboard) remark. It was unnecessary, mea culpa.
Major version upgrades always screw someone -- the person who buys win7 right before win8 debuts (although in that specific case -- maybe they dodged a bullet ), or a gingerbread device just old enough to not get further upgrades, or Black Ops 1 just before Black Ops 2 gets a released date. I've been that person, and it sucks. But you do still have what you paid for in this case, and then some. Sales screw people too -- the ones who bought a little too early or a little too late. You can't please everyone. Given that support for the older version has either ended or will taper off, it isn't the best deal you've ever gotten, but then sometimes you get a lot more support for a lot longer than you expect, and it all comes out in the wash. This case is certainly no cause to declare splashtop some sort of lying, cheating, thieving enemy of freedom and democracy.
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I have to agree here,though their policy of switching from payfor app to payfor service is a bit shady, name one major software label where you get free upgrades past bug fixes. You're lucky if don't drop support completely.

Nexus 10 Pics, Specs, and More

Hi all,
I got my hands on some pictures of the Google Nexus 10 from Samsung. Full details and pictures are below at my blog. Personally, I think it looks very nice. Most excited about the Exynos 5250 and Mali T604. Android 4.2 looks like a very minor upgrade. What do you think?
http://briefmobile.com/google-nexus-10-samsung-android-4-2
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I've been hesitant to buy any android tablet because it would just be a bigger phone. The screen resolution looks to be a big selling point ( HD++)
As a side note. I would think that for tablets the better camera would be onthe front of the device? Always seen it as strange that they follow the lead from phones.

So they are now using the Nexus 7 button and notification bar layout. It looks okay on a 7" tablet, but I prefer the all in one bottom notification bar on 10" tablets. Hopefully they haven't removed the option for this and a simple tweak is all it takes to get this back.
How long until Apple finds someway to create a lawsuit over this device since its a Samsung?

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So they are now using the Nexus 7 button and notification bar layout. It looks okay on a 7" tablet, but I prefer the all in one bottom notification bar on 10" tablets. Hopefully they haven't removed the option for this and a simple tweak is all it takes to get this back.
How long until Apple finds someway to create a lawsuit over this device since its a Samsung?
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+1 Personally I'm tired of everything android being Samsung... Their first gen touchwiz was definitely iOS influenced and they are really just another giant corporation maximizing profit margins and trying to get a monopoly on android. I think I'll skip this one.
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I'm still not going to go for an android tablet until EVERY app is able to run split screen for multitasking. I want to watch youtube and send a message mid video goddamn it. If I buy a tablet to replace my 2 year old XP netbook I want it to have the same functionality.

maniacaus said:
I'm still not going to go for an android tablet until EVERY app is able to run split screen for multitasking. I want to watch youtube and send a message mid video goddamn it. If I buy a tablet to replace my 2 year old XP netbook I want it to have the same functionality.
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Not a problem, for youtube at least. Just use this app instead.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33096132

i have yet to find a reason to buy a tablet, but the specs look promising

housekey said:
i have yet to find a reason to buy a tablet, but the specs look promising
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Same here, but the HP Touchpad fire sale was just too good to pass up. I mostly used it to learn CWM/TWRP and flashing ROMs.
A tablet that would be attractive for me to buy at full price would be something with an x86/64 processor (not an Atom, either something like an i3 or better) that could run desktop operating systems like Windows, which is where most of the real productivity apps are. I'd be able to dual boot Android/Windows since only the ARM platform is locked down in Windows 8. Something with a dockable keyboard/mouse like a laptop. Unfortunately the price point is still too high on these kind of things.

anyone hazard a guess at the price?

emo72 said:
anyone hazard a guess at the price?
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Over 9000
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Over 9000
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good solid effort sir. i hope this will be priced fro 300 US dollars to 350 US dollars MAX. if its that price i will be all over it.

emo72 said:
good solid effort sir. i hope this will be priced fro 300 US dollars to 350 US dollars MAX. if its that price i will be all over it.
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Ohh wait, I can try again - I think it will be over 9000 yen... multiplied by 3. Probably 4. I would consider it up to $499usd since that puts it in the same price category as the Infinity, which is its main Android-class-competition IMO. Sweet screen - versus - micro sd. I think I want the sweet screen on the N10.

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good solid effort sir. i hope this will be priced fro 300 US dollars to 350 US dollars MAX. if its that price i will be all over it.
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No chance in hell. That screen, what is rumored to be metal backing, top-tier specs, etc all adds up to at least $500 US.

Zurginator said:
No chance in hell. That screen, what is rumored to be metal backing, top-tier specs, etc all adds up to at least $500 US.
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No. My informed guess would be $350-$400. Watch and see.
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That's a lot of money for something that looks like warmed-over poop. OOOglay.

Mali T604 specification is looking very cool for 3d graphics and any shader-based data processing. Will be better to provide glbenchmark data for actual comparison with present lead devices.

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No. My informed guess would be $350-$400. Watch and see.
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hope you're right. i know i low balled it at 3 to 350, thats in case any google reps were watching!

its $399 for 16gb while $499 for 32gb...