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Sorry guys. Iphone 4 > Captivate

I just bought my wife an iPhone 4 (she previously had the 3G then 3GS). I gotta say the iPhone 4 is definitely much better than Captivate even before jailbreak. Dont get me wrong, I love the Captivate. Its my first Android phone. The iPhone 4 battery life is insane. Screen is SHARP. And you know what else? The iPhone apps have much better quality. I can download 2 of the same apps made for each OS by the same developer and the iOS one almost always have a better quality.
I love the fact that the Captivate is not made by Apple. Android is definitely a true iOS contender. But is it better? No. It will probably get there though.

*yawn*
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Obvious troll is obvious

Have you tried both phone? Care to explain why you think im a troll?

Because you're on XDA on the Captivate forums creating a new thread just to say how much better another phone is than the Captivate?
I have both the iPhone 4 and the Captivate and find myself using the Captivate much more often than the iPhone. The iPhone is fine for people who are tech illiterate, much like how Macs are fine for people who can't take care of a normal PC.

I don't even understand why people keep bringing up a iPhone v. some Android phone debate. You like red and I like blue. Both are great phones, but coming into a place specifically for Winmo/Android devices to preach about an iPhone is pointless. There should a a filter on new threads that prevents anything with iPhone in the title or body (good or bad) from being created. It's getting old.

when will people realize WE DONT CARE if the iphone is better....i would be willing to be 95 percent of the people on the captivate section has used an iphone 4. We are still here...if we wanted an iphone (or wanted to read about it) we would have gone elsewhere.
THAT is why you are a troll. have a great day

The iPhone is a joke.
Moving on.

vinunleaded182 said:
Have you tried both phone? Care to explain why you think im a troll?
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Captivate is an AT&T phone....majority of smartphone users who moved to a Captivate did so from an iphone after the contract ended.
Everybody is entitled to their favorites and thats a good thing. However, its almost meaningless to go into the captivate thread and say:
"Hey guys, i hate iphone, i bought android, but now i realize i actually prefer iphone"...... people will bag you out, call you a troll etc as no one wants to be told, sorry, you bought a ticket on the wrong train.
Its your view if you dont like apple but admire their well-thought out system/structure but things on android dont change overnight.
Its oft discussed how android apps still feel like beta, but give it time and like you said, it'll balance out. Just have a look at the change from android 1.6 to 2.2
I suspect these two things (below) may change the situation as well:
http://pocketnow.com/android/amazons-android-app-store-terms-leaked
http://pocketnow.com/android/new-report-shows-developers-favor-android-over-ios

Hmmm ok big deal iphone so yesterday...
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vinunleaded182 said:
I just bought my wife an iPhone 4 (she previously had the 3G then 3GS). I gotta say the iPhone 4 is definitely much better than Captivate even before jailbreak. Dont get me wrong, I love the Captivate. Its my first Android phone. The iPhone 4 battery life is insane. Screen is SHARP. And you know what else? The iPhone apps have much better quality. I can download 2 of the same apps made for each OS by the same developer and the iOS one almost always have a better quality.
I love the fact that the Captivate is not made by Apple. Android is definitely a true iOS contender. But is it better? No. It will probably get there though.
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I admit the iPhone is easier - it is made so simple that anyone can use it - that is some of its appeal. If the designer only gives one way to access an app or do something then there is no confusion. Simplicity equals success.
Other then it being designed for the average person, i see little in your explanation to make it superior. The screen is higher density, but i prefer the deeper blacks of the AMOLED. The battery life is better in some tests and worse in others (Captivate did better in rated talk time, iPhone worse). Go to apple's forums and there are just as many people complaining about bad battery life as good - it all goes back to which apps are sucking down juice and the the iPhone has plenty of offenders.
As for app quality; the iPhone app world is more mature so there are more games; but of the 20 apps I use, they all look identical on my iPhone 3G as they do on my Android. BTW, where are all the widgets for the iPhone?
Everyone has different tastes - the iPhone is a fine for people that want it, but consider this:
1. iPhone 4 has a serious design flaw with the antenna - Apple made the decision to embrace form over function. Even Consumer Reports gave it a "do not buy rating" and they loved all past iPhones.
2. For enhanced functionality you must jailbreak - and then you are months behind OS updates waiting on developer updates
3. Re-jailbreaking every few months gets old fast
4. You are locked into the apple model. iTunes is required, no using drives as mass storage, limited to syncing with one PC/Mac, etc.
The iPhone is different, but I would not say it is better. It is made for the simple minded and it does that well.

Iphone 4 > Captivate FOR NOOBS!

Just be careful with that iphone screen... It scratches as easily as the droid incredible.
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"I are has iPhone 4G and it are better than phone than all other has. I have posting onto android forum to prove I are know bester phone than are all you. You has impressed."

I have both.
Captivate is superior, in my opinion... iPhone4 is just more user friendly.
A Honda Civic is more user-friendly than a Leerjet... that doesn't make the Civic better.

I do believe that each phone has it's userbase, like a previous post, the iPhone are for people who like to be told how and what to do with their device. If you want to do any customization, good luck. You want to develop for the phone? You need to shell out cash for a Mac, if you don't already have one.
The Android platform is much more open, sure you have to root/sideload to accomplish things but most carriers lock phones just because they want to avoid any piracy problems. The phone is very customizable and open source, the SDK is free and multiplatform, meaning you can write apps on Windows, OSX and even Linux. So yeah.. before touting how great the iPhone is just because of the bigger screen and the thousands of fart apps you can download from the app store, you might want to do some research.

It must be troll season, everyone get a license. Is there a limit on trolls?
You will find an equal amount of people that say the iPhone is better, compared to the amount that says android is better. Its a preference.
Its obvious both are successful, and both have an audience.
The phone OS scene isn't crowded, there's room for more. Webos has potential, BB may get with the program eventually, and windows phone looks to be the next big thing.
I'm glad you're happy with your iPhone, I couldn't be happier since I put mine down.
How many "Captivates suck" posts does the Captivate forum need?
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Speaking as a former Mac Genius at the Fort Worth Apple Store, I can tell you unequivocally that the iPhone has multiple issues. It's not just the 4 with it's known antenna and proximity sensor issues.
Just LOL at fail troll. LOL.
I have had every iPhone version... 8GB, 3G, 3GS, and 4. I returned the 4 because I don't think a free s****y case is a fix for a device that is defective and costs me over 1400 dollars. (subsidized purchase price+ two year contract) Fix the device. That is what set me over the edge.
And I couldn't be happier. I have yet to drop a single call with my Captivate. Every 3G based iPhone I have has dropped calls, usually in the same places. Like my house. The Captivate does not. Even with all the different ROM's and kernels I have loaded on it, it is still trucking along like a champ.
I got my iPhone 3G replaced 4 times in one year. 3GS 6 times. The 4 I had from launch day til late July. I'm still on the original Captivate.
I wouldn't go back.

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Wow look at all the nerd rage lol. Im new to this General forum and Ive seen several iPHone VS Android threads so I thought it was okay to discuss about the iPhone here too. All I see is people attacking the iPhone because they have some personal problem with Steve Jobs or AT&T. I kinda expected nerd rage but damn I tried so hard to be neutral in the OP. I thought I'd make a thread where people with unbiased opinions can discuss about the iPhone and Captivate.
If you look at the iPhone 4 objectively, with no bias. The device is a beautiful piece of technology in our generation. Despite some flaw like iTunes (grrr), stupid nerd politics and the antenna issue which is a non-issue to us. Were not fat and dont grip the **** out of our phones when we talk.
But anyway, If I offended any nerd here I apologize, kind of. Its really not entirely my fault you are mentally weak and cant handle different views

Android/Windows phone recommendation for gaming

The contract for my HTC Desire is about to run out and I'm looking for a new phone but am really confused about which I should get. I primarily use my phone for gaming and the only thing that annoys me about my current phone is the lack of storage space for apps (even when I'm using Cyanogen).
I really like Android but I'm also quite interested in Windows phones because of the XBL integration. I'm just a bit concerned about the lack of games/apps on Windows phones at the minute. Though I suppose that will improve. When I got my Desire a couple of years ago the Android market was pretty sparse too.
I've been looking at the Galaxy S2 as a couple of people at work have got it but it looks enormous which puts me off. I think I'd quite like something around the same size as my Desire but if the S2 is really that much better for gaming I wouldn't mind going for that anyway. I imagine I'd get used to the size. I've also thought about the LG Optimus phones. Maybe the 2X?
Any thoughts?

ImBarryScot said:
The contract for my HTC Desire is about to run out and I'm looking for a new phone but am really confused about which I should get. I primarily use my phone for gaming and the only thing that annoys me about my current phone is the lack of storage space for apps (even when I'm using Cyanogen).
I really like Android but I'm also quite interested in Windows phones because of the XBL integration. I'm just a bit concerned about the lack of games/apps on Windows phones at the minute. Though I suppose that will improve. When I got my Desire a couple of years ago the Android market was pretty sparse too.
I've been looking at the Galaxy S2 as a couple of people at work have got it but it looks enormous which puts me off. I think I'd quite like something around the same size as my Desire but if the S2 is really that much better for gaming I wouldn't mind going for that anyway. I imagine I'd get used to the size. I've also thought about the LG Optimus phones. Maybe the 2X?
Any thoughts?
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Depending on your carrier, I'd suggest going with a Windows Phone 7 model, the Samsung Focus, to be specific. My opinion is WP7 has better games than Android. It may not have as many, but what it has is certainly excellent. But it is still growing too. So the number of games and apps with improve over time. It also has superior apps compared to Android, with the exception being the XDA app. The Android version is superior to the WP7 version. There's a lot to love about WP7. Mainly it has superior integration of social features, messaging and communications. It is by far more convenient than Android and much more reliable. It is smoother, cleaner. faster. It doesn't require as much power to run than Android does for being low-resource hungry.
One superb feature of WP7 hardware is the GSM versions are world phones. If you have a carrier branded WP7 phone sim-unlocked, you can use it on any GSM network, 3G data as well as regular cell service. But there are unlocked versions available at reasonable prices. The Focus is available online for as little as $150 brand new. Best Buy online has them for $250.
But if you don't mind waiting a few weeks, you will be able to choose from the second generation of WP7 phones soon to be released. The Samsung Focus S will be basically the same as an SGS2 but loaded with WP7 and better specs. It's the one I'm eagerly awaiting. It will have the glorious SAMOLED+ tech in a 4.3" size.

If it is primarily gaming then I suggest an iPhone 4s.

Check on each of the OS's app stores for what games they have.
Then just go for the phone which has the most games you want.
Simple.

Kailkti said:
If it is primarily gaming then I suggest an iPhone 4s.
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Factoring in the OP's wish for a smaller screen and i'd agree. The only Android i could suggest with a smallish screen is the Nexus S. These can be had at good prices now.

Sony Ericsson Xperia PLAY?
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I do like the look of the Xperia Play, actually. But part of me wonders if I'd be shooting myself in the foot getting that instead of one of the more powerful Androids when I'll be tied into a contract for 18-24 months.
I'm not fussed about getting an iPhone. My wife has one and I've got an iPad which I use for playing iOS games.
I do find the Windows phones intriguing but I'm scared about committing to a platform I'm not sure is going to take off properly. Android seems to be on the up and up at the minute and I just can't see Windows phones catching up. But I have to admit, I am tempted...

To be honest, Android has most of the games the iOS has, and some more, but not as much as the iOS. So if you have the iOS, it makes no sense to me for getting android, if you already have a platform with more and the same.
So why not try WP7 then?

Android
If you dont wan't an iPhone. Get an Android phone, check out maybe a SGSII? or Nexus S?

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You forgot the menu and back buttons

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You forgot the menu and back buttons
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You sacrifice speed, stability, fluidity, and a plethora of great games and apps.

z33dev33l said:
You sacrifice speed, stability, fluidity, and a plethora of great games and apps.
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Is that a Plus for iOS or Android.?

z33dev33l said:
You sacrifice speed, stability, fluidity, and a plethora of great games and apps.
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Not necesarly. New android smartphones are as fast as an iphone and can run those games just as fine as an iphone(excepyt Infinity blade 2).

- You can change ringtones without hassle even for messages!

It's a negative for android. Until gpu acceleration is implemented, it won't be as smooth. This is the main reason I can't drop wp7 for android. The lag kills me, even on the phones where its pretty minimal.

Maybe xda should have some kind of database trigger to automatically post this at relevant times...
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z33dev33l said:
It's a negative for android. Until gpu acceleration is implemented, it won't be as smooth. This is the main reason I can't drop wp7 for android. The lag kills me, even on the phones where its pretty minimal.
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You say in many threads that android has no gpu ui acceleration and I posted links in one showing it has gpu acceleration.
I know you replied in one that it said cpu but it says gpu, will you please stop saying it has none when even wikipedia page and googles page on sdk for 4.0 show it does?
If not at least provide some evidence your claim is right and googles is not.
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He doesn't have to prove himself. He's z33dev33l.

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He doesn't have to prove himself. He's z33dev33l.
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Lol. Well if he is right I would like to know as if so I am mistaken but if android does as claimed have gpu ui acceleration then its misleading people to carry on saying it does not.
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you can bluetooth files to any other phone

If he thinks IOS is smoother then Android ill let him play with my kids old 3gs and my Inspire and he will see that it is not really true.

iOS and Android
I found the iOS more stable.....I had 5 of the best android smartphones on the market...and just one iPhone.. the iPhone4 which I jailbreaked after two days.....fantastic!!!! Now I have just two phones. Two weeks ago I got the Htc Sensation Xe...great phone without doubt! but I prefer the iPhone 4...still my opinion...at the end of the day it's just question of taste and what you need the device for. I'm not an Apple fan boys..I started many years ago with Nokia and Windows Mobiles then I started to Love Android...I didn't like the iPhone until iP4 came out....It is on another planet.

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I found the iOS more stable.....I had 5 of the best android smartphones on the market...and just one iPhone.. the iPhone4 which I jailbreaked after two days.....fantastic!!!! Now I have just two phones. Two weeks ago I got the Htc Sensation Xe...great phone without doubt! but I prefer the iPhone 4...still my opinion...at the end of the day it's just question of taste and what you need the device for. I'm not an Apple fan boys..I started many years ago with Nokia and Windows Mobiles then I started to Love Android...I didn't like the iPhone until iP4 came out....It is on another planet.
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Sorry I've thanked you accidently
You are right Iphone is on the planet of crap! It rules there!
I have stated my opinion on an other thread, no need to do it again! I am still using the iPhone only as a second device.. Mostly just for a flashlight! yeah and even for this it isn't good enough!:-D It just is a really bad experience for android users! For the common mortal it could be the best out there but for android freaks its a big step back in technology! And that's for real! ;-)
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z33dev33l said:
It's a negative for android. Until gpu acceleration is implemented, it won't be as smooth. This is the main reason I can't drop wp7 for android. The lag kills me, even on the phones where its pretty minimal.
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Ice Cream Sandwich implements hardware gui acceleration.

learning2livelyf said:
Ice Cream Sandwich implements hardware gui acceleration.
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It does but for some reason people sometimes don't realise it.
Dave
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One thing is that iOS doesn't support flash, small display. Other things (though I didn't search) look similar in term of games and apps.
Another thing it's about price. I'm using Arc S just bought a week ago @ 380 USD, while iPhone 4s 32Gb (850+ USD) 64Gb (950+ USD). So expensive! Teenagers show off their fashion with it..
However, it comes to me that iPhone hardware maybe last very longer than my Arc S.

iOS is less stable than Android

Now, the reasons for these app crashes are numerous. Everything from iOS 5 being new to the market, problems with hardware, internet connectivity, language support, or just plain ‘ol poorly coded apps. It can even be argued that because there are so many more iOS devices than Andr– oh, wait. I almost forgot. There isn’t.
Even with this newly released data, I almost still don’t believe it. Android. With all the talks of fragmentation, force closes and incompatible apps, could somehow turn out to be more stable than iOS? Well, slap my momma and call me Sally. Who’d-a-thunkit. Now, I’m sure this will come off as the flames of an Android fanboy but I assure you, I’m not hating. Just found this information interesting and felt like sharing. Did this data surprise any of you?
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http://phandroid.com/2012/02/03/android-vs-ios-which-is-really-more-stable-new-data-may-surprise-you/

That's definitely something, considering iPhone has a "strict" marketplace, where only select apps are approved.

This is interesting, I would have expected them to be roughly even with android slightly ahead with the crashes considering all the variables, I am pleased to be wrong. I just hope at least some iusers see this before they go off spouting nonsense as they usually do about how totally stable ios is and how it "Just works"

For the record, that shouldn't be iOS is less stable than Android, it should be iOS Apps are less stable than Android Apps. They're not measuring OS crashes.
I get that the OS affects how and how well apps run. But so do a lot of other factors... e.g. devs fixing bugs in the code, etc.
That said, I also know that for the user, the experience itself matters, not the reason(s) for it.

I remember myself having someone with a ipod touch others with iphone having crashes so much, and running the early version of teamhacksung's ICS on my cappy has had very little crashes.. A lot less then I seen in a week of this ios crap :/
It is funny how hard the owners of ios devices try to say they are better, but you always know that's never going to be true with iOS being more unstable, out of date, and non open source..

How ironic that the apps must be approved by apple first before it goes into the app store.
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I had an iPhone 3GS but was never an i-sheep. I'm very happy in the Android camp. Innovation, tweaking and customizing are all good things that we do here.
And to the Dev community for making that happen, big up yuself!
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Oneiricl said:
For the record, that shouldn't be iOS is less stable than Android, it should be iOS Apps are less stable than Android Apps. They're not measuring OS crashes.
I get that the OS affects how and how well apps run. But so do a lot of other factors... e.g. devs fixing bugs in the code, etc.
That said, I also know that for the user, the experience itself matters, not the reason(s) for it.
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I think it might have something to do with how easy it is to get your code compatible with iOS and the system being able to handle it.. The apps prob crash because the system is crap but I don't really know.. all I know from experience is that iPhones are cheap, boring to use, and ios has a LOT of issues..
Apple just likes to make it as cheap as they can and release it for a high price and people buy it because they hear about this "wonderful apple stuff"

I, too, would expect iOS apps to be far more stable, but it's nice to be wrong about that
YAY ANDROID <3

very interesting article, never would have though of that, considering how Apple is so arrogant and control freak is about their "quality"

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That article is completely false. Just another ploy by Android.
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Something tells me its not..... I really can't go by that :/ I think its real, but I don't have a iPhone xD
I have seen myself how unstable it is.. so that is pretty good evidence that this article is right.

I've had both iOS and andriod phones. In my opinion Andriod is far superior then iOS and Im glad there is research done now backing this up. The general public just likes simple and pretty so thats why iOS has a better repution but its just a matter of time as Andriod starts to shine in ICS.

In fairness, it does sound a bit fanboy to me. You can't really measure this in a real-world situation unless every single app crash is reported, and the reasons why it crashed was then analysed.
I root for Android (see what I did there?), but I'd rather something I believed over something I'd like.

I'm not a fanboy or anything iPhones tend to crash a lot when the os doesn't kill off background apps. Apps usually crash at the start up screen so many people won't be able to notice it. I'm currently using an iPhone 3GS since my galaxy s is broken.

Intriguing and believable but I wold also like to see more in depth information about which apps crash and what leads to a crash. Compatibility with a new OS version is part of the equation.
What I take from this is that all code monkeys are human and nothing is perfect. Apple's line about how iOS 'just works,' is where they wants us to believe that they are better than human and are not prone to mistakes.
Believe what you will.

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Apple's line about how iOS 'just works,' is where they wants us to believe that they are better than human and are not prone to mistakes.
Believe what you will.
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That's why exposure like this is good. Even if the report said ios was even with android in crashes or even if it said it had less app crashes, it helps to educate that ios does have problems just like everything else and that people who purchased ios because it didn't have bugs or problems like android should reconsider their stance. For many people "it just works" is a major selling point for apple, and its wrong.
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What exposure?
What I find most surprising is that the tech media has not picked up on this story that was started on Forbes.com. I don't see it mentioned on engadget, macrumors, not even cnet. Yet the verizon galaxy nexus not receiving support has been reported everywhere only to be debunked an hour later.
I'm beginning to really think that the media has a pro-Apple bias.

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What exposure? .....I'm beginning to really think that the media has a pro-Apple bias.
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Perhaps. Thus far it has been easy to dismiss and criticize Android on so many levels. i.e. -It's 'fragmented' and no minimum hardware specs means one sees the 'incompatible with your device' message. It has been easy to publish mal-ware and other junk on the Android market (Bouncer is long overdue).
These and other reasons can lead journalists and others who can only focus on the present to see Android as unorganized.

bleach168 said:
What exposure?
What I find most surprising is that the tech media has not picked up on this story that was started on Forbes.com. I don't see it mentioned on engadget, macrumors, not even cnet. Yet the verizon galaxy nexus not receiving support has been reported everywhere only to be debunked an hour later.
I'm beginning to really think that the media has a pro-Apple bias.
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I remember watching a morning show on either CBS or NBC(I can't quite remember) one morning where they were doing a tech review.
the tech reviewer was talking to the anchor about just coming out(at the time) Galaxy Nexus and the new Android OS, ICS.
10 seconds into the review the anchor cuts the reviewer off, starts talking about his iPhone and the Apple store down the street from the studio, and the conversation became about Apple from then on.
no other mention of Android products after that.
This is how the media is and has been playing it for sometime.
it's been blasted, talked about everywhere in the media, and basically jammed down our throats that the iPhone just works and (basically) nothing else matters.
it's sad and funny at the same time since even without media support Android has gained the bigger market share.

after all those applers bragging with their iphones, im happy to read that ...
iphone this, iphone that... Take that M*t*e*f*c*e*s

Swapping back and forth between OSes.

First of all, I'm a die hard WP7 user through and through. Social interaction, stability, and quick gaming, as well as a good ecosystem of interconnected services are what I'm after in a phone, and so it's the ideal option for me. That said, I try to be as fair as possible in my judgment of other devices. I recently picked up a Nokia N9 and an Xperia play as alternate phones to my Lumia 800 (which has since been upgraded to the Lumia 900) for comparison purposes. The first thing I tested on these two devices, since it's the one thing I miss on WP7, is emulation. Honestly, despite the perfect controls on the xperia, I kept going back to the more "pure" Linux experience of meego for emulation. This was due primarily to the app emumaster which has all your basic emulators cooked into one app with great developer support and outstanding framework. The xperia's controls are awesome, but the low quality of the ps1 emulators I could find left a lot to be desired. The feature that Android really stole the show with, was the market. I left android October of 2010 for the most part aside from picking up random great deals on Craigslist. I most recently tried the Gnex, and it seemed to have a lot of the issues that put me on the prowl in the first place still, so I was not smitten. However, the progression of the app market is phenomenal, a far cry from the doldrum mess that I was forced to search through in my time with android. The new Google Play point is great and feels a lot less like a beta test than it did before. While I'll always prefer WP7's dynamic UI, I much preferred Meego's to android's. There are no "official" widgets yet, but even without, the three home screens have all the info you need and the lock screen is great. It offers a, "sleeping clock" feature where even when the phone is asleep, the clock is still displayed, as well as your notifications. After double tapping on that, you have more specific notifications over a background pic of your choosing, you can swipe on any of these to open the app direct, or just swipe the whole homescreen off which leads to the homescreens, one has all your apps complete with folders. The next, shows all the apps you have currently running. True multi-tasking an astonishing 19 apps and no real hiccups. Amazing. Then, there's your notifications tab, it keeps your notifications as well as a list of your social network mews feed on hand. Everything just feels easy and intuitive. Android, sadly, still felt pretty much the same, I guess if it's not broke, don't fix it, but there's better UI options. Overall, the xperia Play got the least play, not because it's a bad device, but it's just not what I need. The N9 is great, but suffers some of the same issues android does. It is, however, a good meeting point between android and WP7 and was abandoned far too early. Neither pulled me from WP7, but unfortunately, I now try to double-tap my 900 to unlock it.

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85gallon said:
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Not sure what the point of this post is.
E; oh, text wall. It looks like copying it misconstrued my formatting.

That should've stuck with Meego. That would've been a real 4th OS.
Nokia can't shine with Wp7.
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vetvito said:
That should've stuck with Meego. That would've been a real 4th OS.
Nokia can't shine with Wp7.
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The Lumia 900 seems to be doing quite well for itself, replacing the iPhone as ATT's hero device. I can't wait to see what the 610 does in India.

I read somewhere that at&t associates doin a disservice for customers. It seems iPhone is still the hero device, salespeople still pushing the iPhone and not giving the lumia900 a chance.
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They sell what they know, unfortunately most att reps know little about phones.

wendellc said:
I read somewhere that at&t associates doin a disservice for customers. It seems iPhone is still the hero device, salespeople still pushing the iPhone and not giving the lumia900 a chance.
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Yh my mum went to the store and I went with her as I know more about phones than the actual sales reps.she told them,I need a high end device,they told her don't look at anything else but an iPhone 4 s,I told them y? Answer: "because its an iPhone,hazzz market,better touch screen and its an.....iPhone etc u get the point." I just loled

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bartoloandre98 said:
Yh my mum went to the store and I went with her as I know more about phones than the actual sales reps.she told them,I need a high end device,they told her don't look at anything else but an iPhone 4 s,I told them y? Answer: "because its an iPhone,hazzz market,better touch screen and its an.....iPhone etc u get the point." I just loled
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Wow for them just to say that I will say one thing well a couple.
1st smart phone - w as iPhone 3GS 16gb. Loved it..... When I had it.
2 nd smart phone - htc hd7. Was okay not many apps. Hated metro tiles.
3rd smart phone -galaxy s2 i9100- LOVE IT MORE THEN ANYTHING. Awesome phone. Went to go get a iPhone 4s . But I thought and my friend said u have to try andriod. Now he was right not goin to any other Os ever again.
For her to say iPhone as a high end device is funny.