I just bought my wife an iPhone 4 (she previously had the 3G then 3GS). I gotta say the iPhone 4 is definitely much better than Captivate even before jailbreak. Dont get me wrong, I love the Captivate. Its my first Android phone. The iPhone 4 battery life is insane. Screen is SHARP. And you know what else? The iPhone apps have much better quality. I can download 2 of the same apps made for each OS by the same developer and the iOS one almost always have a better quality.
I love the fact that the Captivate is not made by Apple. Android is definitely a true iOS contender. But is it better? No. It will probably get there though.
*yawn*
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Obvious troll is obvious
Have you tried both phone? Care to explain why you think im a troll?
Because you're on XDA on the Captivate forums creating a new thread just to say how much better another phone is than the Captivate?
I have both the iPhone 4 and the Captivate and find myself using the Captivate much more often than the iPhone. The iPhone is fine for people who are tech illiterate, much like how Macs are fine for people who can't take care of a normal PC.
I don't even understand why people keep bringing up a iPhone v. some Android phone debate. You like red and I like blue. Both are great phones, but coming into a place specifically for Winmo/Android devices to preach about an iPhone is pointless. There should a a filter on new threads that prevents anything with iPhone in the title or body (good or bad) from being created. It's getting old.
when will people realize WE DONT CARE if the iphone is better....i would be willing to be 95 percent of the people on the captivate section has used an iphone 4. We are still here...if we wanted an iphone (or wanted to read about it) we would have gone elsewhere.
THAT is why you are a troll. have a great day
The iPhone is a joke.
Moving on.
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Have you tried both phone? Care to explain why you think im a troll?
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Captivate is an AT&T phone....majority of smartphone users who moved to a Captivate did so from an iphone after the contract ended.
Everybody is entitled to their favorites and thats a good thing. However, its almost meaningless to go into the captivate thread and say:
"Hey guys, i hate iphone, i bought android, but now i realize i actually prefer iphone"...... people will bag you out, call you a troll etc as no one wants to be told, sorry, you bought a ticket on the wrong train.
Its your view if you dont like apple but admire their well-thought out system/structure but things on android dont change overnight.
Its oft discussed how android apps still feel like beta, but give it time and like you said, it'll balance out. Just have a look at the change from android 1.6 to 2.2
I suspect these two things (below) may change the situation as well:
http://pocketnow.com/android/amazons-android-app-store-terms-leaked
http://pocketnow.com/android/new-report-shows-developers-favor-android-over-ios
Hmmm ok big deal iphone so yesterday...
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I just bought my wife an iPhone 4 (she previously had the 3G then 3GS). I gotta say the iPhone 4 is definitely much better than Captivate even before jailbreak. Dont get me wrong, I love the Captivate. Its my first Android phone. The iPhone 4 battery life is insane. Screen is SHARP. And you know what else? The iPhone apps have much better quality. I can download 2 of the same apps made for each OS by the same developer and the iOS one almost always have a better quality.
I love the fact that the Captivate is not made by Apple. Android is definitely a true iOS contender. But is it better? No. It will probably get there though.
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I admit the iPhone is easier - it is made so simple that anyone can use it - that is some of its appeal. If the designer only gives one way to access an app or do something then there is no confusion. Simplicity equals success.
Other then it being designed for the average person, i see little in your explanation to make it superior. The screen is higher density, but i prefer the deeper blacks of the AMOLED. The battery life is better in some tests and worse in others (Captivate did better in rated talk time, iPhone worse). Go to apple's forums and there are just as many people complaining about bad battery life as good - it all goes back to which apps are sucking down juice and the the iPhone has plenty of offenders.
As for app quality; the iPhone app world is more mature so there are more games; but of the 20 apps I use, they all look identical on my iPhone 3G as they do on my Android. BTW, where are all the widgets for the iPhone?
Everyone has different tastes - the iPhone is a fine for people that want it, but consider this:
1. iPhone 4 has a serious design flaw with the antenna - Apple made the decision to embrace form over function. Even Consumer Reports gave it a "do not buy rating" and they loved all past iPhones.
2. For enhanced functionality you must jailbreak - and then you are months behind OS updates waiting on developer updates
3. Re-jailbreaking every few months gets old fast
4. You are locked into the apple model. iTunes is required, no using drives as mass storage, limited to syncing with one PC/Mac, etc.
The iPhone is different, but I would not say it is better. It is made for the simple minded and it does that well.
Iphone 4 > Captivate FOR NOOBS!
Just be careful with that iphone screen... It scratches as easily as the droid incredible.
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"I are has iPhone 4G and it are better than phone than all other has. I have posting onto android forum to prove I are know bester phone than are all you. You has impressed."
I have both.
Captivate is superior, in my opinion... iPhone4 is just more user friendly.
A Honda Civic is more user-friendly than a Leerjet... that doesn't make the Civic better.
I do believe that each phone has it's userbase, like a previous post, the iPhone are for people who like to be told how and what to do with their device. If you want to do any customization, good luck. You want to develop for the phone? You need to shell out cash for a Mac, if you don't already have one.
The Android platform is much more open, sure you have to root/sideload to accomplish things but most carriers lock phones just because they want to avoid any piracy problems. The phone is very customizable and open source, the SDK is free and multiplatform, meaning you can write apps on Windows, OSX and even Linux. So yeah.. before touting how great the iPhone is just because of the bigger screen and the thousands of fart apps you can download from the app store, you might want to do some research.
It must be troll season, everyone get a license. Is there a limit on trolls?
You will find an equal amount of people that say the iPhone is better, compared to the amount that says android is better. Its a preference.
Its obvious both are successful, and both have an audience.
The phone OS scene isn't crowded, there's room for more. Webos has potential, BB may get with the program eventually, and windows phone looks to be the next big thing.
I'm glad you're happy with your iPhone, I couldn't be happier since I put mine down.
How many "Captivates suck" posts does the Captivate forum need?
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Speaking as a former Mac Genius at the Fort Worth Apple Store, I can tell you unequivocally that the iPhone has multiple issues. It's not just the 4 with it's known antenna and proximity sensor issues.
Just LOL at fail troll. LOL.
I have had every iPhone version... 8GB, 3G, 3GS, and 4. I returned the 4 because I don't think a free s****y case is a fix for a device that is defective and costs me over 1400 dollars. (subsidized purchase price+ two year contract) Fix the device. That is what set me over the edge.
And I couldn't be happier. I have yet to drop a single call with my Captivate. Every 3G based iPhone I have has dropped calls, usually in the same places. Like my house. The Captivate does not. Even with all the different ROM's and kernels I have loaded on it, it is still trucking along like a champ.
I got my iPhone 3G replaced 4 times in one year. 3GS 6 times. The 4 I had from launch day til late July. I'm still on the original Captivate.
I wouldn't go back.
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Wow look at all the nerd rage lol. Im new to this General forum and Ive seen several iPHone VS Android threads so I thought it was okay to discuss about the iPhone here too. All I see is people attacking the iPhone because they have some personal problem with Steve Jobs or AT&T. I kinda expected nerd rage but damn I tried so hard to be neutral in the OP. I thought I'd make a thread where people with unbiased opinions can discuss about the iPhone and Captivate.
If you look at the iPhone 4 objectively, with no bias. The device is a beautiful piece of technology in our generation. Despite some flaw like iTunes (grrr), stupid nerd politics and the antenna issue which is a non-issue to us. Were not fat and dont grip the **** out of our phones when we talk.
But anyway, If I offended any nerd here I apologize, kind of. Its really not entirely my fault you are mentally weak and cant handle different views
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I never owned one, and even now I'm a big supporter of Samsung and their products. I owned their mp3 (YP-P2) and it's simply amazing. I own two of their LCD monitors as well and also a laser printer, and they are all working perfectly.
So why so much hate on the Samsung?
I remember reading this one post of this guy saying never again will he own another Samsung phone from his experience with one of their phones... the Galaxy probably?
because their phones suck
I had a Galaxy S and after being with HTC for my previous Android phones it was like going from a BMW to a Hyundai. Felt like Fisher Price made it.
until you own a Samsung PHONE, you shouldn't even bother posting this...
anyways here's why i hate them
awful gps... my ex galaxy s, now my sisters phone never gor the gps working
feels plastic... it feels like the phone should be half the price, awfully constructed.
i am the only one that thinks that the screen other than having awesome colors and be more vivid... is just not THAT awesome? ( talking galaxy s wise )
touch wiz... awful... just... awful...
convolution said:
I never owned one, and even now I'm a big supporter of Samsung and their products. I owned their mp3 (YP-P2) and it's simply amazing. I own two of their LCD monitors as well and also a laser printer, and they are all working perfectly.
So why so much hate on the Samsung?
I remember reading this one post of this guy saying never again will he own another Samsung phone from his experience with one of their phones... the Galaxy probably?
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data lockups
faulty software (search ANY galaxy s gps problems)
horrid support
there is many things missing from the epic's source for 2.1 that dont prevent but certainly slow aosp based roms
take your pick, im coming from the epic which i had been patiently waiting to get for 2-3 months before it came out
juanshop said:
until you own a Samsung PHONE, you shouldn't even bother posting this...
anyways here's why i hate them
awful gps... my ex galaxy s, now my sisters phone never gor the gps working
feels plastic... it feels like the phone should be half the price, awfully constructed.
i am the only one that thinks that the screen other than having awesome colors and be more vivid... is just not THAT awesome? ( talking galaxy s wise )
touch wiz... awful... just... awful...
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The hate is strong in this one.
Quite frankly, because their terrible phones. Plasticky, buggy, laggy, faulty hardware, faulty software and overpriced.
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But aside from that, what?
AbsolutZeroGI said:
Quite frankly, because their terrible phones. Plasticky, buggy, laggy, faulty hardware, faulty software and overpriced.
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I had a samsung clamshell dumbphone, and it was the most solid phone I've ever owned. Sure, the GUI was terrible.. but it worked great otherwise! lol.
I think the simple answer is because you are on the xda forums. Many members here (myself included) are very loyal to HTC manufactured phones. It is much like asking why there is so much hate for Dell on an Apple forum. The demographic makeup of the posters will trend towards users with some level of brand loyalty.
Additionally Samsung may or may not have inferior build quality in general, but it is a natural tendency for users to have more negative opinions of products they declined vs ones they chose. It is a subconscious way of enforcing contentment with their decisions.
I am not saying that there are no perfectly valid and real reasons to choose HTC over Samsung, or vice versa. What I am suggesting is that the trend towards negativity is impacted by the demographic of users on the forums.
After having the vibrant and the captivate they both just feel cheap to me and plastic like compared to sprint evo or google G2. I love the feel of a solid phone. Compare the original N1 to the NS by samsung just my to cents.
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They're cheap they feel and work cheap. The screens are bright but that's it the TWUI is awfull smh. You should read up on what happened with the Behold II. Its complete BS tbh. Plus they just said galaxy S phones may or may not see gingerbread... oxymoron since Nexus S is basicly Galaxy S
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Phones are the only thing sammy's not good at. I've always dreamed of having a tv or monitor made by em along with many others I imagine...
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I have a G2 and a Vibrant. I happy with both phones, but it took a long time to get the Vibrant to that level. The G2 out of the box was very good experience, but with CM6 I can't a reason to try anything else. Eventually the Vibrant will get there someday after Samsung and the carriers can get on the same sheet of music.
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I had a samsung clamshell dumbphone, and it was the most solid phone I've ever owned. Sure, the GUI was terrible.. but it worked great otherwise! lol.
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Android phones are what most are talking about.
I owned a vibrant and it sucked bad....no froyo...no working gps...thank god i was able to upgrade to the g2 free...i will never buy a samsung phone again
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Behold 2... worst... phone... ever...
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so you just make a worthless comment to someone that says you are wrong...
maybe get a samsung phone first... There are plenty of companys that do some things good...
try a samsung phone, ive hated the two i had for a short while.
The Vibrant was by far the most poorly made device I've ever owned. Cheap plastic, corners cut on design in places that made a huge difference (volume rocker was garbage). It was TOO light, due to the crap material used. Plus, the gps couldn't get a lock no matter how long I waited.
It nearly soured me on android, as it was my first device with this glorious OS. I got tmobile to swap my Vibrant for the G2 (after 40 days lol) and I couldn't be happier.
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I'm actually a fan of samsung phones. I don't know why but I've never had that much problems with it that couldn't be solved. Yes it does feel cheap, but I've never had an actual broken phone because of dropping or any other physical harm. This is coming from a previous spica user, an international version of galaxy s (not really mine but I've held it more than the actual owner did..), and now a tab (which does actually feel way better than the previous two).
My friends own htc phones, and while I do admit they feel more solid compared to sammys, I'm contented with my phones already.
The SGS series has too many problems going for it compared to the HTC series, especially on XDA where the HTC community is strong.
Nexus S is a different story though.
Why i might get an iPhone, it is a lot to read. But please do.
Ive had multiple phones within the past 2 years and the Captivate has treated me well. But I have grown old of the constant reflashing and updating. It all started with my first unlocked phone, the Xpressmusic 5800, then came the N97. I loved the N97 and its design but once again nokia failed and put a horrible processor in their flagship. Also symbian got too clunky for me and was unbearable. then came The Bold 9700 which was great for the first week but within 2 weeks i had moved back to the N97. A week later i got the Touch Pro 2 and fell in love with the keyboard but wasn't fond of the bulkiness. I flashed different roms and it was great but once again it was just way too thick. the Xperia X2 was next of my many phones. the physical keys, optical track pad, and perfect keyboard was one of the best i have ever used. After many months of waiting for a HSPL it never came. the Design was perfect but it was just too slow for my preference.
Then came the Captivate. Ive had this phone for nearly a year which is a feat for me. i got it for 450 the first week it was out and fell is love with the Amoled Screen. The first thing i plashed was bugless beast which got rid of bloatware and allowed me to install non market apps. went through different roms and though i love android its the same old trying to make it better with different roms. here i am using MIUI losing the theming which is fairly close to the iphone
Keep in mind i have a first gen touch and i use it daily in the car, my itouch has been the oldest peice of tech i have used and still works. i never got sick of the itouch and still use it.
My contract has been up a few months after i got the captivate and ive been waiting for something to replace the captivate. i always admired the iphone 4 design but was waiting for maybe the new iphone 5. Just a few days ago they released that the iphone 4 WHITE was going to be released soon, which leads me to believe that the iphone 5 isnt going to be released this year.
I have used every mobile OS and IOS is the only os that i havnt gotten sick of yet.
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If you're going to get an iphone, wait until the next one comes out. It has some ground-breaking additions, like being able to hold it without worrying about signal loss.
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What's the point of all these "I'm ditching the captivate, here's why" threads? Do you really need us to validate your personal decisions?
I give it a week before you jailbreak the device and run Cydia apps and Winterboard themes.
good luck.
ebay your cappy so someone else can enjoy the rom-flashing goodness.
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I give it a week before you jailbreak the device and run Cydia apps and Winterboard themes.
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I give it a couple of minutes after turning it on.
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blah nevermind
have fun with your icrap. ill be here enjoying not loosing service if i hold my phone. and i dont have to worry about my location being tracked by the gestapo-i mean apple. OH and also, enjoy paying monthly for tethering and a.p. etc. good riddance. PEACE!
http://www.informationweek.com/news...900042?wc=4&cid=sem_edit_hardware_various_RON
make sure you read the comment at the bottom=pure gold
That's a shame man. The white iPhone is pretty (I'd personally wait for the iPhone 5) but with the way I use my cappy I don't think I could do it. Drag and drop music and videos is something the iPhone will never do, and I use my captivate the most for those two things. On the flipside, you can be more social with an iPhone and it's FaceTime and the fact everyone has one and that sorta thing. Personally, I'm sticking with the cappy, at least until iPhone 6 or Galaxy s3
I honestly would never trade my cappy for an iphone.
I can barely live with the same rom and launcher for more than a few weeks, imagine having an uncustomizable phone.
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I have a captivate, and well, love the way I can customize it to suit me. I tried using an iphone 4 for a couple days, but couldn't stick for more than a few hours. I don't say iphone 4 is bad, but its the feeling of "freedom" that I feel with captivate that I can't seem to let go of it. I came to Captivate after using 3GS for about an year.
Anyways, in the end, its all ur personal decision to go from a free land to alcazar prison. All I can say is all the best in ur move. But don't expect to get too far in the waters since all that can be done is jailbreak.
Since u waited this long, why not wait till June? Its just about a month from now, and if there is a new model then u'd be sitting holding ur head.
judging by his history, he doesnt research before he buys, just buys whats cool. He'll get it play with it for a month then come back to the captivate and unlock it for his new contract he'll pick up with the icrap....
when he could just unlock it now and become a monthly customer. no contract! with a phone without limitations... except ff camera.
oh friggin well.
peace the F out!
see you in a month...
TRusselo said:
judging by his history, he doesnt research before he buys, just buys whats cool. He'll get it play with it for a month then come back to the captivate and unlock it for his new contract he'll pick up with the icrap....
when he could just unlock it now and become a monthly customer. no contract! with a phone without limitations... except ff camera.
oh friggin well.
peace the F out!
see you in a month...
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Don't diss him just because he's gonna get an iphone. I had an iphone too and there are things I miss from it. Its his own choice wither he wants to buy an iphone or wait tilll june if there is a new model. Just let him be and let him do whatever he wants.
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Don't diss him just because he's gonna get an iphone. I had an iphone too and there are things I miss from it. Its his own choice wither he wants to buy an iphone or wait tilll june if there is a new model. Just let him be and let him do whatever he wants.
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He asked for it by making this thread! We would be completely unaware of his decisions otherwise, but since he made the thread we are entitled to express the opinion the the Iphone is garbage.
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http://www.informationweek.com/news...900042?wc=4&cid=sem_edit_hardware_various_RON
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im surprised to see this coming from you. also i cant reproduce what is claimed in that article. i have tried covering the bottom of the phone with both hands, squeezing it tightly, twisting the phone and my signal dosnt drop not even in about phone will i see any change in signal that is not consistant with normal fluctuations in my area.
alternatively why would he point out samsung rather than the notoriously ****ty design htc uses on the aria and incredible. who puts the antennas in the battery door? dumbasses! if a phone experiences death grip it is htc! never mind apple.
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im surprised to see this coming from you. also i cant reproduce what is claimed in that article. i have tried covering the bottom of the phone with both hands, squeezing it tightly, twisting the phone and my signal dosnt drop not even in about phone will i see any change in signal that is not consistant with normal fluctuations in my area.
alternatively why would he point out samsung rather than the notoriously ****ty design htc uses on the aria and incredible. who puts the antennas in the battery door? dumbasses! if a phone experiences death grip it is htc! never mind apple.
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Haha did you read the comment at the bottom? That's what my point was. The article is propaganda and that comment calls him out on it. Hilariously!
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Haha did you read the comment at the bottom? That's what my point was. The article is propaganda and that comment calls him out on it. Hilariously!
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ohh that comment! missed that somehow.lol
and i never said anything exactly bad about the iphone except that he would be back..
I have to say I am still pretty happy with my Nexus-S 4G. I am loving the stock/vanilla Android OS, after trying many different ROM's and launchers, I always seem to go back to the "pure" launcher and style. I do have the Oxygen ROM which is the base Android OS just tweaked and stripped to be very fast with good battery life.
I was tempted to get the Sprint Galaxy S2, while it is a great phone, probably the best Android device for sale right now, it just did not seem night and day radically better than my Nexus-S. The S II still runs Gingerbread and looks so similar to my Nexus I don't see the need to get that phone right now. And my Nexus is not slow by any means. I am eagerly waiting for the reveal of the next Nexus-Three device with "Ice Cream", that would be the first to tempt me away, or at least get Ice Cream running stock on my Nexus-S.
If there is any beef with this phone, it is the radio/network, and Sprint's poor 3G service lately. Hopefully we get good news next month when the CEO of Sprint discusses the future network plans on Oct 7th.
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Yeah I'm not complaining at all about it. I was running Pete's bb rom before this and his rooted stock before that. Now, I'm running miui. I thought, coming from the preference of vanilla ui, that who in the hell would want a rom that's a cross bastardized version of ios and touchwiz? I am/was under the thought that ios was very limited on what could be done with it.
Miui is really starting to grow on me. I'm almost ashamed to admit I'm getting the itch to get a new phone after my ns4g and it being the iPhone. I definitely want the nexus 3 too but those phones will probably be released very close to each other.
Unfortunately, I will have to deal with the looks and comments from my old lady, whenever I get a new phone. I will not give my ns4g to her because I see how she treats phones. I suppose one thing that would keep her quiet is if I got her an iPhone too. About 1500 for two new phones, full price, not eligible for upgrades yet. Sigh, it's only money right?
Yes.
10chars?
I plan to run this phone til the wheels come off.
Sent from the future to put right what once went wrong.
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I plan to run this phone til the wheels come off.
Sent from the future to put right what once went wrong.
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+1 x 10 = hell yeaaaaa.
I came from the g2x and can never be happier with this ns4g
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nexus s is my first smartphone and i would not try another the next time ...
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nexus s is my first smartphone and i would not try another the next time ...
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Nexus s is my first REAL smartphone
I've had or used extensively a mt3g, epic 4g, evo 4g, evo shift 4g, Droid x, huawei ascend 2 and an iPhone 3gs and of those I like my nexus the best. However, my mother in law just got a sensation 4g and if I'm honest, I think I'd enjoy that better.
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So I take it you prefer android over iPhone? Care to share your reasons for liking one and not liking the other?
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So I take it you prefer android over iPhone? Care to share your reasons for liking one and not liking the other?
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Open source. Multitasking. Variety. Google. Etc.
Edit: scratch that. Nexus S 4G.
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IMO, Nexus S is a piece of outdated hardware, since day 1, when it was release last year December 2010, at that very same time its brothers/cousins have been having way much better spec than it does.
the pure Android experience was not as fun as promised by the Nexus One hyped owners promised
So my next device will most definitely not be Nexus 3, which is yet another outdated antique, its SGS2 brothers/cousins has waaaaaaaaay better hardware than it does.
and we all know by now that support across Samsung devices is thriving like CM7 and all the countless of customized kernels and mods that you can find
The 2nd reason why i picked Nexus S, was simply because it was unlocked and works on AWS signal
there was nothing at the time, else i'd have most likely gone for a better phone
the lack of the SD slot is a major drawback, can't do things as i used to, i'm not having fun as i used to, all because of the missing space, the phone is just a phone right now, can't enjoy it as it ran out of space all the time, no matter how much stuff i send up to the clouds, there is never enough space for me
clouds is not cheap either if you don't have an unlimited internet for the phone
and the 3G speed is not that great to send up and down 500 meg of data whenever you feel like playing another game, or watching another movie
i'm sure this phone is more than enough or even great for most people, but i'm not most people
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So I take it you prefer android over iPhone? Care to share your reasons for liking one and not liking the other?
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I personally prefer android because of the ease of customization that can be done even without rooting. iOS devices are great, don't get me wrong. I'm not an iHater, but for me and my uses they don't work as well as Android. The reason iOS is so great is that it just works. Period. From the first boot to the last, an iOS device is going to work exactly like Apple intended it to.
The Android Vs. Apple debate is much akin to the Win Vs Mac debate. Apple builds its software to work on its hardware and it does, thats the reason I buy Mac laptops; in the 6 years I've owned them I've had three issues two of which were hardware failures and one was my wife's fault (she spilled soda on the keyboard). All three of the issues were solved on the spot by Apple with a total of 5 hours and $0.00 of my time and money lost to waiting and repairs. Five hours. When my wife's Compaq laptop got its THIRD motherboard recall in TWO years it took me three hours on the phone to find out I had found out about the recall one week late and was then told it would cost me $400 dollars and 4-6 weeks to get it. I ended up having to manually recover what data I could from her hard drive and the rest was lost.
Windows machines allow the user to do much more personal customization and give them much more choice in terms of hardware but the cost of that is a much higher level of system failure. Its the same way with android. I can't begin to account for the hours I've wasted setting up and customizing my wife's and my phones only to have issues come up and its all lost. I've lost count of the number of times I've had to run terminal commands to get my phone to even boot. If I had an iOS device, that probably wouldn't happen but I'd also not feel like my phone UI looks and runs like I want it to.
In a rather long-winded and round-a-bout way, the point I'm getting at is that if you want a phone that simply works, makes calls, gets texts, so and and so forth then iPhone is a great choice. But if you want a phone that you can hack to bits and make to be a reflection of your personality then Android is you choice. That's my opinion at least.
yes and no
leagues happier than my iphone but some what less impressed by others android phones. But hey it was free.
I don't understand everyone complaining of a lack of SD slot. It mounts so you can use it as a portable drive, it also allows a much higher I/O. There's not one thing that a removable SD card would allow me to do more than what I can do now except potentially lose a tiny piece of my phone.
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the internal SD doesn't have enough space, it just as simple as that
13GB fills up in a blink of an eye
I'm still happy with it for the most part. The only serious gripe I have at this point is RAM; it doesn't have enough to deal with the number of apps that like to run in the background eating up those tiny 2-5 MB chunks these days, and it doesn't always dump them from memory efficiently enough to play memory-intensive games nicely without first going in and killing processes. Also, it just came back from its second Best Buy repair, so... a little touchy hardware-wise perhaps.
I like vanilla Google and am not a huge fan of rooting and modding, though, so I'd be reluctant to move away from the Nexus line. I just hope the next one has a lot more RAM, and keeps a larger portion of it free at any given time for gaming. And is maybe less prone to needing to be fixed. >.>
RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
AllGamer said:
RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
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Seriously? 75mb? Running services will always show me 240mb+ free ram.
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AllGamer said:
RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
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The problem is when apps and games do run in the background, and there's no way to close them completely without going through task manager. Granted that's as much a complaint about the apps in question as about Android itself, but there will always be apps that don't behave properly in all respects. The OS should be able to handle them without user intervention.
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The problem is when apps and games do run in the background, and there's no way to close them completely without going through task manager. Granted that's as much a complaint about the apps in question as about Android itself, but there will always be apps that don't behave properly in all respects. The OS should be able to handle them without user intervention.
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Every app I exit out of, I exit with the back button for an exit dialog or use the menu-exit option. Never have 'stuff running'.
Some apps have components that always run(new facebook and google+ updates), I uninstall those apps and use the browser.
I don't experience what you're describing.
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Now, the reasons for these app crashes are numerous. Everything from iOS 5 being new to the market, problems with hardware, internet connectivity, language support, or just plain ‘ol poorly coded apps. It can even be argued that because there are so many more iOS devices than Andr– oh, wait. I almost forgot. There isn’t.
Even with this newly released data, I almost still don’t believe it. Android. With all the talks of fragmentation, force closes and incompatible apps, could somehow turn out to be more stable than iOS? Well, slap my momma and call me Sally. Who’d-a-thunkit. Now, I’m sure this will come off as the flames of an Android fanboy but I assure you, I’m not hating. Just found this information interesting and felt like sharing. Did this data surprise any of you?
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http://phandroid.com/2012/02/03/android-vs-ios-which-is-really-more-stable-new-data-may-surprise-you/
That's definitely something, considering iPhone has a "strict" marketplace, where only select apps are approved.
This is interesting, I would have expected them to be roughly even with android slightly ahead with the crashes considering all the variables, I am pleased to be wrong. I just hope at least some iusers see this before they go off spouting nonsense as they usually do about how totally stable ios is and how it "Just works"
For the record, that shouldn't be iOS is less stable than Android, it should be iOS Apps are less stable than Android Apps. They're not measuring OS crashes.
I get that the OS affects how and how well apps run. But so do a lot of other factors... e.g. devs fixing bugs in the code, etc.
That said, I also know that for the user, the experience itself matters, not the reason(s) for it.
I remember myself having someone with a ipod touch others with iphone having crashes so much, and running the early version of teamhacksung's ICS on my cappy has had very little crashes.. A lot less then I seen in a week of this ios crap :/
It is funny how hard the owners of ios devices try to say they are better, but you always know that's never going to be true with iOS being more unstable, out of date, and non open source..
How ironic that the apps must be approved by apple first before it goes into the app store.
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I had an iPhone 3GS but was never an i-sheep. I'm very happy in the Android camp. Innovation, tweaking and customizing are all good things that we do here.
And to the Dev community for making that happen, big up yuself!
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For the record, that shouldn't be iOS is less stable than Android, it should be iOS Apps are less stable than Android Apps. They're not measuring OS crashes.
I get that the OS affects how and how well apps run. But so do a lot of other factors... e.g. devs fixing bugs in the code, etc.
That said, I also know that for the user, the experience itself matters, not the reason(s) for it.
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I think it might have something to do with how easy it is to get your code compatible with iOS and the system being able to handle it.. The apps prob crash because the system is crap but I don't really know.. all I know from experience is that iPhones are cheap, boring to use, and ios has a LOT of issues..
Apple just likes to make it as cheap as they can and release it for a high price and people buy it because they hear about this "wonderful apple stuff"
I, too, would expect iOS apps to be far more stable, but it's nice to be wrong about that
YAY ANDROID <3
very interesting article, never would have though of that, considering how Apple is so arrogant and control freak is about their "quality"
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That article is completely false. Just another ploy by Android.
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Something tells me its not..... I really can't go by that :/ I think its real, but I don't have a iPhone xD
I have seen myself how unstable it is.. so that is pretty good evidence that this article is right.
I've had both iOS and andriod phones. In my opinion Andriod is far superior then iOS and Im glad there is research done now backing this up. The general public just likes simple and pretty so thats why iOS has a better repution but its just a matter of time as Andriod starts to shine in ICS.
In fairness, it does sound a bit fanboy to me. You can't really measure this in a real-world situation unless every single app crash is reported, and the reasons why it crashed was then analysed.
I root for Android (see what I did there?), but I'd rather something I believed over something I'd like.
I'm not a fanboy or anything iPhones tend to crash a lot when the os doesn't kill off background apps. Apps usually crash at the start up screen so many people won't be able to notice it. I'm currently using an iPhone 3GS since my galaxy s is broken.
Intriguing and believable but I wold also like to see more in depth information about which apps crash and what leads to a crash. Compatibility with a new OS version is part of the equation.
What I take from this is that all code monkeys are human and nothing is perfect. Apple's line about how iOS 'just works,' is where they wants us to believe that they are better than human and are not prone to mistakes.
Believe what you will.
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Apple's line about how iOS 'just works,' is where they wants us to believe that they are better than human and are not prone to mistakes.
Believe what you will.
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That's why exposure like this is good. Even if the report said ios was even with android in crashes or even if it said it had less app crashes, it helps to educate that ios does have problems just like everything else and that people who purchased ios because it didn't have bugs or problems like android should reconsider their stance. For many people "it just works" is a major selling point for apple, and its wrong.
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What exposure?
What I find most surprising is that the tech media has not picked up on this story that was started on Forbes.com. I don't see it mentioned on engadget, macrumors, not even cnet. Yet the verizon galaxy nexus not receiving support has been reported everywhere only to be debunked an hour later.
I'm beginning to really think that the media has a pro-Apple bias.
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What exposure? .....I'm beginning to really think that the media has a pro-Apple bias.
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Perhaps. Thus far it has been easy to dismiss and criticize Android on so many levels. i.e. -It's 'fragmented' and no minimum hardware specs means one sees the 'incompatible with your device' message. It has been easy to publish mal-ware and other junk on the Android market (Bouncer is long overdue).
These and other reasons can lead journalists and others who can only focus on the present to see Android as unorganized.
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What exposure?
What I find most surprising is that the tech media has not picked up on this story that was started on Forbes.com. I don't see it mentioned on engadget, macrumors, not even cnet. Yet the verizon galaxy nexus not receiving support has been reported everywhere only to be debunked an hour later.
I'm beginning to really think that the media has a pro-Apple bias.
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I remember watching a morning show on either CBS or NBC(I can't quite remember) one morning where they were doing a tech review.
the tech reviewer was talking to the anchor about just coming out(at the time) Galaxy Nexus and the new Android OS, ICS.
10 seconds into the review the anchor cuts the reviewer off, starts talking about his iPhone and the Apple store down the street from the studio, and the conversation became about Apple from then on.
no other mention of Android products after that.
This is how the media is and has been playing it for sometime.
it's been blasted, talked about everywhere in the media, and basically jammed down our throats that the iPhone just works and (basically) nothing else matters.
it's sad and funny at the same time since even without media support Android has gained the bigger market share.
after all those applers bragging with their iphones, im happy to read that ...
iphone this, iphone that... Take that M*t*e*f*c*e*s
Guys I have im extremely dissapointed in android. And to lesser extend the devs. No offense to anyone but I just had to rant here.
Being a longtime iPhone user I finally found a nice phone that will take me away from iPhone, the nexus 5.
To my absolute shock, there's no CNAP support on these devices. Name display of a number that's not stored in your phone book. Herein Canada rogers and Fido offer this service, which I m subscribed to.
Being a business user its a must have for me. And seeing as how old 10 year old phones support this, I'm absolutely floored android doesn't. The closest thing is if you miss a call you'll see the name but as soon as you click call log it goes back to number
A user last year (on xda) found the fix and posted a patch with website but links are down. No one else, no Dev has fixed it. Its supposedly a really simple fix modding build file or patching frameworks I'm not sure. But I've tried everything. I've flashed 20 different Roms and nothing. A cm9 nightly had it but no longer is it enabled in the newer stuff.
I give up. I'm switching back to iPhone and never looking back. No CNAP on android devices is INSANE, not to mention the lack of a properly integrated visual voicemail. As far as I'm concerned android still a step behind.
Cool story bro
nice to see you go, dont let the door hit you on your way out
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Your opinion is your own just as mine is. I find Iphones in general not my cup of tea. I find them bland,boring and way too small. The only thing I think they have going for them is the build materials but aside from that I don't think I could ever classify an iPhone on the same level.
If I were to buy an iPhone it would be used and would be permanently an iPod at my workplace and that's what I think they should be.
By the way I have had an iPhone 3g and iPhone 4s and I won't be going back.
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Lucky_Slevin said:
Your opinion is your own just as mine is. I find Iphones in general not my cup of tea. I find them bland,boring and way too small. The only thing I think they have going for them is the build materials but aside from that I don't think I could ever classify an iPhone on the same level.
If I were to buy an iPhone it would be used and would be permanently an iPod at my workplace and that's what I think they should be.
By the way I have had an iPhone 3g and iPhone 4s and I won't be going back.
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I agree 100% they are small and visually very boring. Thats why i want to jump ship. However when this was an issue for iPhone in 4s it was fixed and was never an issue again.
And for those taking offense sorry to irritate you but my phone is first a phone if basic call features work, then you have issues.
"There's an app for that!"
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And how do you think *****ing about it on a forum full of android fans is going to help you? This is a developers forum, not a complaint box.
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And how do you think *****ing about it on a forum full of android fans is going to help you? This is a developers forum, not a complaint box.
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My thought exactly
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And how do you think *****ing about it on a forum full of android fans is going to help you? This is a developers forum, not a complaint box.
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You're missing the point. Phone is on kijiji already. I dont need help anymore. If it cant be fixed in 3 yesrs it wont be. But for a closed minded android users that defend defend defend. Guess what iPhone is better. And next release when the phone is at 5" and they implement solar charging it will be no contest... Again!
Funny how only response to this issue in two weeks is when I say iPhone has it enabled for years.
Haha enjoy mediocrity!
FYI nexus 5 from sprint has an add-on service for this exact thing. So I think it's more of the carriers stopping this rather than the device lacking the ability.
I might be wrong but who knows. Also what android phone were you using?
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Iphone ahead of Android, news to me. I thought that the only OS, that can wake you up and tell you exactly how long to work is ahead of every other. Man you cant even put constant changing weather on your home screen. Emulation on iphone is a joke. No nfc, they just got LTE. Iphone 5s has the same dpi as the iphone 4. Everyone know that the notifications are a thousand times better on Android. I have never had a issue with peoples names not showing during a call, im confused because sync is vetter on Android also?
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Iphone ahead of Android, news to me. I thought that the only OS, that can wake you up and tell you exactly how long to work is ahead of every other. Man you cant even put constant changing weather on your home screen. Emulation on iphone is a joke. No nfc, they just got LTE. Iphone 5s has the same dpi as the iphone 4. Everyone know that the notifications are a thousand times better on Android. I have never had a issue with peoples names not showing during a call, im confused because sync is vetter on Android also?
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My thought is maybe the OP has an older phone
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You're missing the point. Phone is on kijiji already. I dont need help anymore. If it cant be fixed in 3 yesrs it wont be. But for a closed minded android users that defend defend defend. Guess what iPhone is better. And next release when the phone is at 5" and they implement solar charging it will be no contest... Again!
Funny how only response to this issue in two weeks is when I say iPhone has it enabled for years.
Haha enjoy mediocrity!
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For someone who's is mocking close minded android users you seem pretty choose minded. iOs is fine and for a lot of users and is what they should stick with. For others it's not for them. We each have a personal choice.
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You're missing the point. Phone is on kijiji already. I dont need help anymore. If it cant be fixed in 3 yesrs it wont be. But for a closed minded android users that defend defend defend. Guess what iPhone is better. And next release when the phone is at 5" and they implement solar charging it will be no contest... Again!
Funny how only response to this issue in two weeks is when I say iPhone has it enabled for years.
Haha enjoy mediocrity!
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You definitely won't be missed sir. Enjoy your little, cute iPhone.
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It's your own fault for not doing your research, OP.
This thread is pointless and you should be banned.
You won't be missed. Not because I hate Apple, I have a mac, but because you have no idea what you're talking about. You can't even spell "Android" right. You said "Andriod". So you're right....Andriod sucks, but Android doesn't.
Iphone 5s still has alot of battery issues also
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You're missing the point. Phone is on kijiji already. I dont need help anymore. If it cant be fixed in 3 yesrs it wont be. But for a closed minded android users that defend defend defend. Guess what iPhone is better. And next release when the phone is at 5" and they implement solar charging it will be no contest... Again!
Funny how only response to this issue in two weeks is when I say iPhone has it enabled for years.
Haha enjoy mediocrity!
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If you don't need help anymore, then why post here? Clearly you just want to stir the pot, as there is no other point to your posting. You like your iPhone and don't like Android, we get it. Do you want a cookie or a medal?
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My thought is maybe the OP has an older phone
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Sad thing is he has a N5.
Thread was already reported.