I have to say I am still pretty happy with my Nexus-S 4G. I am loving the stock/vanilla Android OS, after trying many different ROM's and launchers, I always seem to go back to the "pure" launcher and style. I do have the Oxygen ROM which is the base Android OS just tweaked and stripped to be very fast with good battery life.
I was tempted to get the Sprint Galaxy S2, while it is a great phone, probably the best Android device for sale right now, it just did not seem night and day radically better than my Nexus-S. The S II still runs Gingerbread and looks so similar to my Nexus I don't see the need to get that phone right now. And my Nexus is not slow by any means. I am eagerly waiting for the reveal of the next Nexus-Three device with "Ice Cream", that would be the first to tempt me away, or at least get Ice Cream running stock on my Nexus-S.
If there is any beef with this phone, it is the radio/network, and Sprint's poor 3G service lately. Hopefully we get good news next month when the CEO of Sprint discusses the future network plans on Oct 7th.
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Yeah I'm not complaining at all about it. I was running Pete's bb rom before this and his rooted stock before that. Now, I'm running miui. I thought, coming from the preference of vanilla ui, that who in the hell would want a rom that's a cross bastardized version of ios and touchwiz? I am/was under the thought that ios was very limited on what could be done with it.
Miui is really starting to grow on me. I'm almost ashamed to admit I'm getting the itch to get a new phone after my ns4g and it being the iPhone. I definitely want the nexus 3 too but those phones will probably be released very close to each other.
Unfortunately, I will have to deal with the looks and comments from my old lady, whenever I get a new phone. I will not give my ns4g to her because I see how she treats phones. I suppose one thing that would keep her quiet is if I got her an iPhone too. About 1500 for two new phones, full price, not eligible for upgrades yet. Sigh, it's only money right?
Yes.
10chars?
I plan to run this phone til the wheels come off.
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I plan to run this phone til the wheels come off.
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+1 x 10 = hell yeaaaaa.
I came from the g2x and can never be happier with this ns4g
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nexus s is my first smartphone and i would not try another the next time ...
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nexus s is my first smartphone and i would not try another the next time ...
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Nexus s is my first REAL smartphone
I've had or used extensively a mt3g, epic 4g, evo 4g, evo shift 4g, Droid x, huawei ascend 2 and an iPhone 3gs and of those I like my nexus the best. However, my mother in law just got a sensation 4g and if I'm honest, I think I'd enjoy that better.
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So I take it you prefer android over iPhone? Care to share your reasons for liking one and not liking the other?
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So I take it you prefer android over iPhone? Care to share your reasons for liking one and not liking the other?
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Open source. Multitasking. Variety. Google. Etc.
Edit: scratch that. Nexus S 4G.
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IMO, Nexus S is a piece of outdated hardware, since day 1, when it was release last year December 2010, at that very same time its brothers/cousins have been having way much better spec than it does.
the pure Android experience was not as fun as promised by the Nexus One hyped owners promised
So my next device will most definitely not be Nexus 3, which is yet another outdated antique, its SGS2 brothers/cousins has waaaaaaaaay better hardware than it does.
and we all know by now that support across Samsung devices is thriving like CM7 and all the countless of customized kernels and mods that you can find
The 2nd reason why i picked Nexus S, was simply because it was unlocked and works on AWS signal
there was nothing at the time, else i'd have most likely gone for a better phone
the lack of the SD slot is a major drawback, can't do things as i used to, i'm not having fun as i used to, all because of the missing space, the phone is just a phone right now, can't enjoy it as it ran out of space all the time, no matter how much stuff i send up to the clouds, there is never enough space for me
clouds is not cheap either if you don't have an unlimited internet for the phone
and the 3G speed is not that great to send up and down 500 meg of data whenever you feel like playing another game, or watching another movie
i'm sure this phone is more than enough or even great for most people, but i'm not most people
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I personally prefer android because of the ease of customization that can be done even without rooting. iOS devices are great, don't get me wrong. I'm not an iHater, but for me and my uses they don't work as well as Android. The reason iOS is so great is that it just works. Period. From the first boot to the last, an iOS device is going to work exactly like Apple intended it to.
The Android Vs. Apple debate is much akin to the Win Vs Mac debate. Apple builds its software to work on its hardware and it does, thats the reason I buy Mac laptops; in the 6 years I've owned them I've had three issues two of which were hardware failures and one was my wife's fault (she spilled soda on the keyboard). All three of the issues were solved on the spot by Apple with a total of 5 hours and $0.00 of my time and money lost to waiting and repairs. Five hours. When my wife's Compaq laptop got its THIRD motherboard recall in TWO years it took me three hours on the phone to find out I had found out about the recall one week late and was then told it would cost me $400 dollars and 4-6 weeks to get it. I ended up having to manually recover what data I could from her hard drive and the rest was lost.
Windows machines allow the user to do much more personal customization and give them much more choice in terms of hardware but the cost of that is a much higher level of system failure. Its the same way with android. I can't begin to account for the hours I've wasted setting up and customizing my wife's and my phones only to have issues come up and its all lost. I've lost count of the number of times I've had to run terminal commands to get my phone to even boot. If I had an iOS device, that probably wouldn't happen but I'd also not feel like my phone UI looks and runs like I want it to.
In a rather long-winded and round-a-bout way, the point I'm getting at is that if you want a phone that simply works, makes calls, gets texts, so and and so forth then iPhone is a great choice. But if you want a phone that you can hack to bits and make to be a reflection of your personality then Android is you choice. That's my opinion at least.
yes and no
leagues happier than my iphone but some what less impressed by others android phones. But hey it was free.
I don't understand everyone complaining of a lack of SD slot. It mounts so you can use it as a portable drive, it also allows a much higher I/O. There's not one thing that a removable SD card would allow me to do more than what I can do now except potentially lose a tiny piece of my phone.
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the internal SD doesn't have enough space, it just as simple as that
13GB fills up in a blink of an eye
I'm still happy with it for the most part. The only serious gripe I have at this point is RAM; it doesn't have enough to deal with the number of apps that like to run in the background eating up those tiny 2-5 MB chunks these days, and it doesn't always dump them from memory efficiently enough to play memory-intensive games nicely without first going in and killing processes. Also, it just came back from its second Best Buy repair, so... a little touchy hardware-wise perhaps.
I like vanilla Google and am not a huge fan of rooting and modding, though, so I'd be reluctant to move away from the Nexus line. I just hope the next one has a lot more RAM, and keeps a larger portion of it free at any given time for gaming. And is maybe less prone to needing to be fixed. >.>
RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
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RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
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Seriously? 75mb? Running services will always show me 240mb+ free ram.
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RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
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The problem is when apps and games do run in the background, and there's no way to close them completely without going through task manager. Granted that's as much a complaint about the apps in question as about Android itself, but there will always be apps that don't behave properly in all respects. The OS should be able to handle them without user intervention.
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The problem is when apps and games do run in the background, and there's no way to close them completely without going through task manager. Granted that's as much a complaint about the apps in question as about Android itself, but there will always be apps that don't behave properly in all respects. The OS should be able to handle them without user intervention.
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Every app I exit out of, I exit with the back button for an exit dialog or use the menu-exit option. Never have 'stuff running'.
Some apps have components that always run(new facebook and google+ updates), I uninstall those apps and use the browser.
I don't experience what you're describing.
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I just bought my wife an iPhone 4 (she previously had the 3G then 3GS). I gotta say the iPhone 4 is definitely much better than Captivate even before jailbreak. Dont get me wrong, I love the Captivate. Its my first Android phone. The iPhone 4 battery life is insane. Screen is SHARP. And you know what else? The iPhone apps have much better quality. I can download 2 of the same apps made for each OS by the same developer and the iOS one almost always have a better quality.
I love the fact that the Captivate is not made by Apple. Android is definitely a true iOS contender. But is it better? No. It will probably get there though.
*yawn*
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Obvious troll is obvious
Have you tried both phone? Care to explain why you think im a troll?
Because you're on XDA on the Captivate forums creating a new thread just to say how much better another phone is than the Captivate?
I have both the iPhone 4 and the Captivate and find myself using the Captivate much more often than the iPhone. The iPhone is fine for people who are tech illiterate, much like how Macs are fine for people who can't take care of a normal PC.
I don't even understand why people keep bringing up a iPhone v. some Android phone debate. You like red and I like blue. Both are great phones, but coming into a place specifically for Winmo/Android devices to preach about an iPhone is pointless. There should a a filter on new threads that prevents anything with iPhone in the title or body (good or bad) from being created. It's getting old.
when will people realize WE DONT CARE if the iphone is better....i would be willing to be 95 percent of the people on the captivate section has used an iphone 4. We are still here...if we wanted an iphone (or wanted to read about it) we would have gone elsewhere.
THAT is why you are a troll. have a great day
The iPhone is a joke.
Moving on.
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Have you tried both phone? Care to explain why you think im a troll?
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Captivate is an AT&T phone....majority of smartphone users who moved to a Captivate did so from an iphone after the contract ended.
Everybody is entitled to their favorites and thats a good thing. However, its almost meaningless to go into the captivate thread and say:
"Hey guys, i hate iphone, i bought android, but now i realize i actually prefer iphone"...... people will bag you out, call you a troll etc as no one wants to be told, sorry, you bought a ticket on the wrong train.
Its your view if you dont like apple but admire their well-thought out system/structure but things on android dont change overnight.
Its oft discussed how android apps still feel like beta, but give it time and like you said, it'll balance out. Just have a look at the change from android 1.6 to 2.2
I suspect these two things (below) may change the situation as well:
http://pocketnow.com/android/amazons-android-app-store-terms-leaked
http://pocketnow.com/android/new-report-shows-developers-favor-android-over-ios
Hmmm ok big deal iphone so yesterday...
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I just bought my wife an iPhone 4 (she previously had the 3G then 3GS). I gotta say the iPhone 4 is definitely much better than Captivate even before jailbreak. Dont get me wrong, I love the Captivate. Its my first Android phone. The iPhone 4 battery life is insane. Screen is SHARP. And you know what else? The iPhone apps have much better quality. I can download 2 of the same apps made for each OS by the same developer and the iOS one almost always have a better quality.
I love the fact that the Captivate is not made by Apple. Android is definitely a true iOS contender. But is it better? No. It will probably get there though.
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I admit the iPhone is easier - it is made so simple that anyone can use it - that is some of its appeal. If the designer only gives one way to access an app or do something then there is no confusion. Simplicity equals success.
Other then it being designed for the average person, i see little in your explanation to make it superior. The screen is higher density, but i prefer the deeper blacks of the AMOLED. The battery life is better in some tests and worse in others (Captivate did better in rated talk time, iPhone worse). Go to apple's forums and there are just as many people complaining about bad battery life as good - it all goes back to which apps are sucking down juice and the the iPhone has plenty of offenders.
As for app quality; the iPhone app world is more mature so there are more games; but of the 20 apps I use, they all look identical on my iPhone 3G as they do on my Android. BTW, where are all the widgets for the iPhone?
Everyone has different tastes - the iPhone is a fine for people that want it, but consider this:
1. iPhone 4 has a serious design flaw with the antenna - Apple made the decision to embrace form over function. Even Consumer Reports gave it a "do not buy rating" and they loved all past iPhones.
2. For enhanced functionality you must jailbreak - and then you are months behind OS updates waiting on developer updates
3. Re-jailbreaking every few months gets old fast
4. You are locked into the apple model. iTunes is required, no using drives as mass storage, limited to syncing with one PC/Mac, etc.
The iPhone is different, but I would not say it is better. It is made for the simple minded and it does that well.
Iphone 4 > Captivate FOR NOOBS!
Just be careful with that iphone screen... It scratches as easily as the droid incredible.
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"I are has iPhone 4G and it are better than phone than all other has. I have posting onto android forum to prove I are know bester phone than are all you. You has impressed."
I have both.
Captivate is superior, in my opinion... iPhone4 is just more user friendly.
A Honda Civic is more user-friendly than a Leerjet... that doesn't make the Civic better.
I do believe that each phone has it's userbase, like a previous post, the iPhone are for people who like to be told how and what to do with their device. If you want to do any customization, good luck. You want to develop for the phone? You need to shell out cash for a Mac, if you don't already have one.
The Android platform is much more open, sure you have to root/sideload to accomplish things but most carriers lock phones just because they want to avoid any piracy problems. The phone is very customizable and open source, the SDK is free and multiplatform, meaning you can write apps on Windows, OSX and even Linux. So yeah.. before touting how great the iPhone is just because of the bigger screen and the thousands of fart apps you can download from the app store, you might want to do some research.
It must be troll season, everyone get a license. Is there a limit on trolls?
You will find an equal amount of people that say the iPhone is better, compared to the amount that says android is better. Its a preference.
Its obvious both are successful, and both have an audience.
The phone OS scene isn't crowded, there's room for more. Webos has potential, BB may get with the program eventually, and windows phone looks to be the next big thing.
I'm glad you're happy with your iPhone, I couldn't be happier since I put mine down.
How many "Captivates suck" posts does the Captivate forum need?
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Speaking as a former Mac Genius at the Fort Worth Apple Store, I can tell you unequivocally that the iPhone has multiple issues. It's not just the 4 with it's known antenna and proximity sensor issues.
Just LOL at fail troll. LOL.
I have had every iPhone version... 8GB, 3G, 3GS, and 4. I returned the 4 because I don't think a free s****y case is a fix for a device that is defective and costs me over 1400 dollars. (subsidized purchase price+ two year contract) Fix the device. That is what set me over the edge.
And I couldn't be happier. I have yet to drop a single call with my Captivate. Every 3G based iPhone I have has dropped calls, usually in the same places. Like my house. The Captivate does not. Even with all the different ROM's and kernels I have loaded on it, it is still trucking along like a champ.
I got my iPhone 3G replaced 4 times in one year. 3GS 6 times. The 4 I had from launch day til late July. I'm still on the original Captivate.
I wouldn't go back.
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Wow look at all the nerd rage lol. Im new to this General forum and Ive seen several iPHone VS Android threads so I thought it was okay to discuss about the iPhone here too. All I see is people attacking the iPhone because they have some personal problem with Steve Jobs or AT&T. I kinda expected nerd rage but damn I tried so hard to be neutral in the OP. I thought I'd make a thread where people with unbiased opinions can discuss about the iPhone and Captivate.
If you look at the iPhone 4 objectively, with no bias. The device is a beautiful piece of technology in our generation. Despite some flaw like iTunes (grrr), stupid nerd politics and the antenna issue which is a non-issue to us. Were not fat and dont grip the **** out of our phones when we talk.
But anyway, If I offended any nerd here I apologize, kind of. Its really not entirely my fault you are mentally weak and cant handle different views
Why i might get an iPhone, it is a lot to read. But please do.
Ive had multiple phones within the past 2 years and the Captivate has treated me well. But I have grown old of the constant reflashing and updating. It all started with my first unlocked phone, the Xpressmusic 5800, then came the N97. I loved the N97 and its design but once again nokia failed and put a horrible processor in their flagship. Also symbian got too clunky for me and was unbearable. then came The Bold 9700 which was great for the first week but within 2 weeks i had moved back to the N97. A week later i got the Touch Pro 2 and fell in love with the keyboard but wasn't fond of the bulkiness. I flashed different roms and it was great but once again it was just way too thick. the Xperia X2 was next of my many phones. the physical keys, optical track pad, and perfect keyboard was one of the best i have ever used. After many months of waiting for a HSPL it never came. the Design was perfect but it was just too slow for my preference.
Then came the Captivate. Ive had this phone for nearly a year which is a feat for me. i got it for 450 the first week it was out and fell is love with the Amoled Screen. The first thing i plashed was bugless beast which got rid of bloatware and allowed me to install non market apps. went through different roms and though i love android its the same old trying to make it better with different roms. here i am using MIUI losing the theming which is fairly close to the iphone
Keep in mind i have a first gen touch and i use it daily in the car, my itouch has been the oldest peice of tech i have used and still works. i never got sick of the itouch and still use it.
My contract has been up a few months after i got the captivate and ive been waiting for something to replace the captivate. i always admired the iphone 4 design but was waiting for maybe the new iphone 5. Just a few days ago they released that the iphone 4 WHITE was going to be released soon, which leads me to believe that the iphone 5 isnt going to be released this year.
I have used every mobile OS and IOS is the only os that i havnt gotten sick of yet.
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If you're going to get an iphone, wait until the next one comes out. It has some ground-breaking additions, like being able to hold it without worrying about signal loss.
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What's the point of all these "I'm ditching the captivate, here's why" threads? Do you really need us to validate your personal decisions?
I give it a week before you jailbreak the device and run Cydia apps and Winterboard themes.
good luck.
ebay your cappy so someone else can enjoy the rom-flashing goodness.
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I give it a week before you jailbreak the device and run Cydia apps and Winterboard themes.
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I give it a couple of minutes after turning it on.
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blah nevermind
have fun with your icrap. ill be here enjoying not loosing service if i hold my phone. and i dont have to worry about my location being tracked by the gestapo-i mean apple. OH and also, enjoy paying monthly for tethering and a.p. etc. good riddance. PEACE!
http://www.informationweek.com/news...900042?wc=4&cid=sem_edit_hardware_various_RON
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That's a shame man. The white iPhone is pretty (I'd personally wait for the iPhone 5) but with the way I use my cappy I don't think I could do it. Drag and drop music and videos is something the iPhone will never do, and I use my captivate the most for those two things. On the flipside, you can be more social with an iPhone and it's FaceTime and the fact everyone has one and that sorta thing. Personally, I'm sticking with the cappy, at least until iPhone 6 or Galaxy s3
I honestly would never trade my cappy for an iphone.
I can barely live with the same rom and launcher for more than a few weeks, imagine having an uncustomizable phone.
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I have a captivate, and well, love the way I can customize it to suit me. I tried using an iphone 4 for a couple days, but couldn't stick for more than a few hours. I don't say iphone 4 is bad, but its the feeling of "freedom" that I feel with captivate that I can't seem to let go of it. I came to Captivate after using 3GS for about an year.
Anyways, in the end, its all ur personal decision to go from a free land to alcazar prison. All I can say is all the best in ur move. But don't expect to get too far in the waters since all that can be done is jailbreak.
Since u waited this long, why not wait till June? Its just about a month from now, and if there is a new model then u'd be sitting holding ur head.
judging by his history, he doesnt research before he buys, just buys whats cool. He'll get it play with it for a month then come back to the captivate and unlock it for his new contract he'll pick up with the icrap....
when he could just unlock it now and become a monthly customer. no contract! with a phone without limitations... except ff camera.
oh friggin well.
peace the F out!
see you in a month...
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judging by his history, he doesnt research before he buys, just buys whats cool. He'll get it play with it for a month then come back to the captivate and unlock it for his new contract he'll pick up with the icrap....
when he could just unlock it now and become a monthly customer. no contract! with a phone without limitations... except ff camera.
oh friggin well.
peace the F out!
see you in a month...
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Don't diss him just because he's gonna get an iphone. I had an iphone too and there are things I miss from it. Its his own choice wither he wants to buy an iphone or wait tilll june if there is a new model. Just let him be and let him do whatever he wants.
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Don't diss him just because he's gonna get an iphone. I had an iphone too and there are things I miss from it. Its his own choice wither he wants to buy an iphone or wait tilll june if there is a new model. Just let him be and let him do whatever he wants.
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He asked for it by making this thread! We would be completely unaware of his decisions otherwise, but since he made the thread we are entitled to express the opinion the the Iphone is garbage.
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http://www.informationweek.com/news...900042?wc=4&cid=sem_edit_hardware_various_RON
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im surprised to see this coming from you. also i cant reproduce what is claimed in that article. i have tried covering the bottom of the phone with both hands, squeezing it tightly, twisting the phone and my signal dosnt drop not even in about phone will i see any change in signal that is not consistant with normal fluctuations in my area.
alternatively why would he point out samsung rather than the notoriously ****ty design htc uses on the aria and incredible. who puts the antennas in the battery door? dumbasses! if a phone experiences death grip it is htc! never mind apple.
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im surprised to see this coming from you. also i cant reproduce what is claimed in that article. i have tried covering the bottom of the phone with both hands, squeezing it tightly, twisting the phone and my signal dosnt drop not even in about phone will i see any change in signal that is not consistant with normal fluctuations in my area.
alternatively why would he point out samsung rather than the notoriously ****ty design htc uses on the aria and incredible. who puts the antennas in the battery door? dumbasses! if a phone experiences death grip it is htc! never mind apple.
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Haha did you read the comment at the bottom? That's what my point was. The article is propaganda and that comment calls him out on it. Hilariously!
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Haha did you read the comment at the bottom? That's what my point was. The article is propaganda and that comment calls him out on it. Hilariously!
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ohh that comment! missed that somehow.lol
and i never said anything exactly bad about the iphone except that he would be back..
Hey folks.
I've seen several comparison threads on the Infuse around here. Although it's nice to compare the Infuse with other (newer) devices out there, a thread can derail very quickly or become a flame-fest.
That's why I thought of starting this comparison thread, which can be stickied and will be the ONLY comparison thread in General. Others will be closed.
Every pro and cons may be discussed, as long as we watch our language and play nice.
Discussion may start....
Now.
I'll start, cons:
NEED MOAR CORES!!!
...and more RAM... and a better GPS.
Pros:
Everything else!
Who agrees?
i completely disagree, batterylife is so-so as it is with the stock firmware, what would it be with another core to support? ram is not an issue if it is managed correctly, more ram just gives app developers an excuse to get lazy. try the 99tweaks mod in dev section and ignore the reported free ram, it is insignificant information.
gps, well we know samsung sux at that :/ it is wonky and has worse reception than my captivate (not to say it works worse, that would be a lie but my captivate can loc in places that my infuse can't it just takes longer and tracks like **** if agps is enabled)
needs 1080p recording, i think the gpu is marginal for that ability but i think if they had real talent in their software department it could be "possible" though i know it will never happen.
You also have to consider majority over minority. A large amount of people that pick up these phones don't know what "rooting" or flashing firmwares and all that can do. The average Joe will just minimize the app and keep going. They want to have a phone that works out the box without a need to jump through hoops.
Adding more to something already good is never a bad thing. Basically it would be a SGSII with a bigger screen, and last I checked it's probably one of the most popular phones on the market to this date.
Yall thinks it worth giving up the Infuse for the Nexus Prime when it hits the market in a few months??
im thinking of getting it, and giving the infuse to my mom - she needs the big screen..lol
the2rrell said:
Yall thinks it worth giving up the Infuse for the Nexus Prime when it hits the market in a few months??
im thinking of getting it, and giving the infuse to my mom - she needs the big screen..lol
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all up to you buddy. i think there is too much emphasis on hardware, yeah hardware is cool and benchmarks are cool but the infuse has raw capabilities that some tegra powered phones dont have in video playback.. like i said earlier there isnt much the phone can't do. but obviously the infuse is near the bottom of the barrel when it comes to 2011 phones as far as hardware goes. i would say pick up the next nexus and see if it tickles you a certain way, you will be assured that it will have the best firmware at any givven time. if the nexus doesnt do it for you then return it.
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I'll start, cons:
NEED MOAR CORES!!!
...and more RAM... and a better GPS.
Pros:
Everything else!
Who agrees?
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Hm...I disagree. My phone has been able to manage everything well with a single core, and RAM has never been an issue. (Maybe on stock, but then again, I flashed a ROM as soon as I got it so yeah)
And I don't get what the problem with GPS is. Maybe I live in a place where Sammy is er...I have no idea what to say but yeah. I live in New Jersey and I haven't had a GPS issue so far...
Dani897 said:
all up to you buddy. i think there is too much emphasis on hardware, yeah hardware is cool and benchmarks are cool but the infuse has raw capabilities that some tegra powered phones dont have in video playback.. like i said earlier there isnt much the phone can't do. but obviously the infuse is near the bottom of the barrel when it comes to 2011 phones as far as hardware goes. i would say pick up the next nexus and see if it tickles you a certain way, you will be assured that it will have the best firmware at any givven time. if the nexus doesnt do it for you then return it.
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yea, wont really know till i pick it up. Thats True.
It's crazy. I like some things about my infuse, I like some things about my thrill
I keep swapping back and forth between the two.
I no longer have any interest in the SGS2....but I do look forward to seeing what ATT does with LTE around Christmas
I have a HTC Sensation and an Infuse 4g and believe me battery consumption on Dual Core Sensation is annoying and i throw it away. Infuse has good battery life and does everything with a single core. My next phone will probably be a Galaxy Note depending on battery.
here is Infuse with 4.5 and galaxy S2 with 4.27" (<--look like 4 inches!").
phone size is only a little bigger, but your eyes will notice the HUGE screen different! if it' not 4.5, i dont want it!
update: try to look at each screen for 5 seconds, then you will see the HUGE screen different!
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Wait, you have both? Does the dual core and the extra 512megs of RAM make a difference?
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Wait, you have both? Does the dual core and the extra 512megs of RAM make a difference?
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i only noticed the galaxy S2 (dual core) boots up and loads webpages with flashes faster. other than that, i dont noticed that much different since i overclocked my infuse to 1.6Gzh with bedwa kernel.
Now when it comes to battery life on the GSII based on your normal use, would you say it was worse or same/similar?
Reason I'm asking is because I never really messed with a dual core android unit... yet, but was curious what real improvements they bring other than benchmarks.
I liked running my Infuse at 1.6Ghz, but could never find the right voltage to keep it going while maintaining a great battery life.
Btw, thanks for the input, kinda changed my perspective on DC phones a little.
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Now when it comes to battery life on the GSII based on your normal use, would you say it was worse or same/similar?
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battery life is about the same on both phones, after 8 hours at work,
I have about 20% battery left. I mostly surf the web while on break and lunchtime.
Now I underclocked the Infuse to 800mzh during work hours, after 8 hours I have about 40% left.
The Infuse is the first smartphone I've owned, I can only compare to other phones I've played with for a short time. I run the Infused 2.1.0 with 1.6 Infusion 1.1 kernel, and my Infuse is faster than many others. The battery life is great, I'm on my phone for about 4-5 hours talk time, and heavily use web, music and the occasional game. I can get a day and a half worth out of the battery before charging. If I dont use those, sometimes I can go 3 days. I dont see much difference with dual cores. If the phone was ran stock, yes, you can tell noticeable difference. I do wish it could record in 1080, but thats not that big of a deal. Never had a problem with GPS, or anything else I can think of.
Infused 2.1.0
Infusion GB Kernel 1.1
Is that an Infuse in my pocket
or am I just happy to see you?
Does anyone know of any place where you can actually use NFC?
Infuse
I have to say after being on my first Android Phone making the jump from WinMo to my Cappy and learning about Roms, tweaking and modding I was excited to make the next jump to the next Android phone. I had 30 days after purchase that I was going to use the Infuse and then make the transition to the SGSII for the bump in power and performance but sacrificing the minor screen downsizing. But after experiencing and reading many users inputs and advice I decided to hang on to the Infuse. I am finding the power is perfect for what I want and need (Mostly email, Text and web) I hardly use the GPS or maps (Currently Frozen in TIBU at the moment) and battery life is average or comparable to all others I have read about. I found that most user that get extraordinary long battery life is due to no SIM and WiFi only use, as I have done and got two days out of my battery before at the sacrifice of connectivity availability. But overall I think the infuse is comparable if not better phone than most and I would like to see more development and activity for this device even though its not the "Most Popular" phone on the block at the moment.
I just saw the sgs2 att comercial and gotta say it looks quite sexy. but ill wait and see things like Rom compatibility with the international version and final hardware specs. there were rumors that Samsung would use tegra2 chips in some markets. not really sure about that but hope that we get the Orion chip.
it may be better to wait for the galaxy s 3 or whatever comes next but the att gs2 does look good.
NeoS2007 said:
Hey folks.
I've seen several comparison threads on the Infuse around here. Although it's nice to compare the Infuse with other (newer) devices out there, a thread can derail very quickly or become a flame-fest.
That's why I thought of starting this comparison thread, which can be stickied and will be the ONLY comparison thread in General. Others will be closed.
Every pro and cons may be discussed, as long as we watch our language and play nice.
Discussion may start....
Now.
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Thank you Neo!!!!
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So in what ways you think than Android is better than IOS
Heres what i got
iPhones have:
Smaller screens
Slower Data Speeds
Lower Durability
Slower prosseser
Very Boring UI
No Flash
No download support from Browser
No themes/Launcher (Unless its Jailbroken)
Anything to add here?
Camera can't compare to the Amaze
no video chat over mobile data
no third party music player or video player
no way to install apps other than through app store
TETHERED TO ITUNES FOR ALL MEDIA CONTENT -_____-
no expandable memory
cant replace/remove battery
alx294 said:
Camera can't compare to the Amaze
no video chat over mobile data
no third party music player or video player
no way to install apps other than through app store
TETHERED TO ITUNES FOR ALL MEDIA CONTENT -_____-
cant replace/remove battery
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Does Installous count
Lame ass apps, that are very unstable, eg. Infinity blade (from my own experience). Veeerryy low ram for standards that android phones have set these days. And a ui that hasn't changed for years
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It's Apple
Chuck Norris can but Walker Texas Ranger can't.
-the fact that Apple releases so called "improved" iphone every year with barely any changes
-no widgets
-sometimes a hassle to update the software
UI, and Screens are just your opinions. not really facts; not nececarilly a bad thing. the processor of the 4s isnt slow, but its pointless in the iphone. other than that im with you! i could never use a screen that small lol
1-boring UI
2-using iOS is like living in a cage
3-its a dream phone for kids,cheerleader,*****,chloe kardashian
kecikhebat said:
1-boring UI
2-using iOS is like living in a cage
3-its a dream phone for kids,cheerleader,*****,chloe kardashian, justin bieber
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fixed what you said
It's the epitome of complacency
Custom keyboards!
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Well atleast u get software updates on iphone ...
the only bad thing id have to say about IOS is the lack of custimizability, some poeple like the simplicity of iOS nto everyone wants to flash ... but the most important thing for me was Unlockability. Amaze > and the camera ofcourse which is one of the best out there. but i did like the weight and shape of iphone 4 and battery life was not bad either
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This is the main reason.
Honestly my main reason is "boring"
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I honestly think IOS is better and would get one for the wife if it was on T-Mobile. I can manage with Android since it allows me to do a little more than I would be able to if I had an IOS device. WHat I like about IOS is the apps are of much higher quality.
For someone like my wife the iphone would be better. She complains about the random reboots, apps crashing and some of the other annoyances that come with Android so I know she would love the iphone.
O just don't like ios too mainstream
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95% of Apple iPhone users I have met all have been complete and utter morons that would follow their precious phones if it was thrown off a cliff.
Being 110% cereal too! I even let people know that are decent that I am utter shock they own an iPhone, lol!
I am no follower. Hell I used BB for 6 years....
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iOS is smoother than Android and handles most things better. Android wasn't meant to have a touch interface since it was first made to compete with Blackberry and other systems that used a trackball/keyboard rather than a touchscreen slate. So as a result, they didn't bother starting from scratch and decided to just implement touchscreen onto their existing revisions... Not saying Android is bad by any means, but there are things that iOS does properly that Android does not. For example, the touch delay that exists in every Android device will most likely never be solved due to the architecture of the OS - to see this delay, go play Fruit Ninja or something and you'll notice that the sword trail is always lagging behind your finger and is never directly under your finger while you're moving.
However, I despise Apple with a passion. Their products are great, but they are also immensely overpriced and restrictive. They market their products in a dishonest way to trick the common consumer into thinking that it's the greatest thing on the planet. However, they do tend to take care of their customers in terms of updates, unlike Android because even the iPhone 3GS got their latest iOS 5 update while we're still waiting for an ICS update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557484
These 2 videos say it all eventhough it's slightly biased.
adslee said:
iOS is smoother than Android and handles most things better. Android wasn't meant to have a touch interface since it was first made to compete with Blackberry and other systems that used a trackball/keyboard rather than a touchscreen slate. So as a result, they didn't bother starting from scratch and decided to just implement touchscreen onto their existing revisions... Not saying Android is bad by any means, but there are things that iOS does properly that Android does not. For example, the touch delay that exists in every Android device will most likely never be solved due to the architecture of the OS - to see this delay, go play Fruit Ninja or something and you'll notice that the sword trail is always lagging behind your finger and is never directly under your finger while you're moving.
However, I despise Apple with a passion. Their products are great, but they are also immensely overpriced and restrictive. They market their products in a dishonest way to trick the common consumer into thinking that it's the greatest thing on the planet. However, they do tend to take care of their customers in terms of updates, unlike Android because even the iPhone 3GS got their latest iOS 5 update while we're still waiting for an ICS update.
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+1. Example of smoothness - open web browser in both iPhone and a high end android phone like amaze, open a webpage and trying scrolling - you will see iPhone is significantly smoother than amaze. Any improvements in hardware (you can have quad core processor and a 4 gb of ram) won't make up for a not-so-good architecture. OS update is another big issue with all android manufacturers. If I buy a phone on a 2 year contract, I should get updates for 2 years. Apple provides updates for older devices as long as old hardware can handle it and look at the android world - mytouch4g slide is more than capable of running ICS but HTC/TMO won't provide update and indirectly force customers to buy new device with little to no hardware improvement long before their contract is over. Having said that, I still like my amaze for a couple extra features and data service that tmo provides.
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I am curious how a big company like Samsung managed to cut through the crap and make an uncrippled phone.
Back in 2009 I got a Samsung SGH-F266 from Bell and while it was cute and stable in was so crippled and locked down after using it for a while I ended up hating it more than any phone, except one Motorola phone in 2004 which shouldn't have even passed basic QC testing let alone get released into the wild.
The SGH-F266 wouldn't even turn on properly without an active sim card. It wouldn't let you assign your own MP3s to ring tones to protect ringtone businesses. You couldn't even transfer an image from your computer to use as a background on your screen .... only pictures taken with the phone could be used. The Media Player app played tracks nicely but finding them was another matter as the phone directed you to payed on-line services by default .... finding and playing your own track took about 10 click wait clicks, while connecting to paid music took one. This phone was designed for the phone carriers not me.
I thought Samsung was going to be dead in the water at the time and swore I would never buy a Samsung phone again. Frankly I gave up on "smartphone"model almost altogether as I thought it would be quite impossible for any company to cut the crap.
Then my Goddaughter showed me her HTC Legend phone and Android and within a couple of minutes I saw the future of mobile computing. It was almost 100% cripple free .... I had a HTC Desire Z in about a week and I really liked it. It was almost 100% cripple free ..... HTC and Google made a phone for me instead of the carriers. Sure Bell forced a lot of crapware down my throat that forced me to root my phone, but the end product was a phone that I used until it died and had no urge to upgrade.
Sadly HTC is crippling their phones again by not supporting removable storage but I owned a HTC One S for a while and it was a good phone.
Then finally I got over my distaste for Samsung and got a Galaxy3S. I really can't find the slightest evidence of crippling on this phone. Even locked I can remove or disable any crap I don't want thanks to Google and Android 4.11 (Bell must be pissed). It supports removable storage and battery. It isn't rooted and I believe the boot loader is locked but for actually using the phone I have had no desire to root or unlock.
How did Samsung change their corporate mentality so much. Greed? Foresight? Blackmail of the carriers?.... Surely Google and HTC played their part too and perhaps they started it.
I hope this isn't a temporary bubble that breaks as soon as a new monopoly emerges.
Wow.. that was a lot..
Thanks for sharing, but why share at all?
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"To err is human, to forgive is divine"
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Samsung doesnt lock there boot loaders the carrier does. Samsung phase a great dev community due to there phones Being so open. So theres really no sighn of being crippled for example I have cspire so all Samsung phones there is just stock samsung
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bbrad said:
Samsung doesnt lock there boot loaders the carrier does. Samsung phase a great dev community due to there phones Being so open. So theres really no sighn of being crippled for example I have cspire so all Samsung phones there is just stock samsung
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But they are with the Exynos chip which they refuse to release proper documentation for and is causing developers to leave the brand in hords. Many are moving to Sony or the nexus due to samsung going back on their word.
As for the OP. Samsung didnt do a bad job with the s3 minus some coming with the exynos chip.
Updates and better support. Support doesn't have to be good, but it's certainly better than HTC's and their crap. They get updates out, and the only others who do that are Google and Sony.
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Well I have 2 Samsung products: Galaxy Tab 10.1 P7500 and Galaxy Pocket S5300 and I have had not one problem with them.
I have installed many ROMs in them and they are both very good...and all working great.
I think the problems lie in those who just have no idea whats going on and think they can mess around with their phones.
Smartphones are mini computers and should be treated with care and if you are going to start upgrading...rooting..romming etc you should try to get a better idea of what you are up to.:laugh:
Commercials play a big part in it too and making the people wait in anticipation and big unveilings help too. How you advertise it play a big role
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Samsung is by far the only company I know (Aside from the nexus lines) to release 2 major upgrades for their phone. I.E. The Galaxy S2. It started out with Gingerbread but it has official samsung support up to 4.1 now and they're going to stop after 4.2. No other company has done that IIRC, most only go up 1 major upgrade then focus on their next phone.
However the downside and the downfall of Samsung in the open source world is that the Exynos chip they use so much is pretty much closed source and this cripples developers. So much so that the CyanogenMOD team has almost completely dropped support for Samsung phones because of this.
As someone that has been hanging around here for a while, and using HTC phones since the Windows Mobile days, will know that HTC has been locking down their phones in one way or another since before Android was even a mainstream mobile OS. Back on WinMo, you had to HardSPL your phone to put custom ROMs on it. HTC keeps ramping up their security measures, and what you see on the latest devices is not a drastic departure from what happened in the past, but just another iteration or evolution of it. The OPs Desire Z was far from an open device, and it took a while until S-off was achieved.
HTC was a big innovator in the early days of Android, making the first Android phone (HTC Dream) and the first Nexus phone. Samsung mostly played it safe in the early days, but eventually saw the tide was coming, and rode it, investing heavily in Android. A lot of what you see as the open nature of Samsung devices is inherent in Android. Probably more a case of Samsung following Google's requirements, and copying what the competition was doing on their devices; rather then some kind of altruistic awakening.
As far as features, what one person may consider "crippling", may not mean the same to another. Obviously, the intention is not to cripple the device. HTC (or Apple for that matter) would argue that most people value slimness and smooth design over SD slots and removable battery covers. Of course, not everyone will agree. And some of what HTC is doing might just be categorized as being a copy cat to many of the things that Apple has done to the smartphone.
Sammy has simply decided to take a different industrial design philosophy. They don't push the envelope in this category, although they do leave in a lot of features like the OP points out. But to me, their physical designs are uninspired and a bit bland, relying heavily on cheap looking/feeling plastics.
In the end, its just different approaches on how to design the same type of product. And Samsung's success probably has more to do with the fact they were a much larger company to begin with, with a huge advertising machine.
Redpoint 73 ....What a great post
From the OP
It drove me crazy trying to unlock my original Desire Z ..... I was on the bleeding edge as an end user. I have no desire to unlock my Samung S3 because Google had the balls to put in a working system to disable, hide or remove stuff the carrier forces on the phone... what a novel concept ....
Another interesting thing that happened as Android got established is that using cheap long distance calling cards actually got feasible because the dialing pause and wait codes started to work properly. Now I have one button call of my bro in the states and can talk for an hour for a buck instead of the 100$ the carriers charge.
I would argue that not having any kind of removable storage is crippling. Not supporting either USB to Go or microSD severely limits the user and forces use of on-line services which cost money (bandwidth) to use. Text and data files are fine for Dropbox ...... music and pictures are nowhere near as convenient as having them on a microSD card, unless you actually like the idea of syncing. Apple Phones and HTC phones are crippled for music and pictures and I think that that is part of the business model.
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As someone that has been hanging around here for a while, and using HTC phones since the Windows Mobile days, will know that HTC has been locking down their phones in one way or another since before Android was even a mainstream mobile OS. Back on WinMo, you had to HardSPL your phone to put custom ROMs on it. HTC keeps ramping up their security measures, and what you see on the latest devices is not a drastic departure from what happened in the past, but just another iteration or evolution of it. The OPs Desire Z was far from an open device, and it took a while until S-off was achieved.
HTC was a big innovator in the early days of Android, making the first Android phone (HTC Dream) and the first Nexus phone. Samsung mostly played it safe in the early days, but eventually saw the tide was coming, and rode it, investing heavily in Android. A lot of what you see as the open nature of Samsung devices is inherent in Android. Probably more a case of Samsung following Google's requirements, and copying what the competition was doing on their devices; rather then some kind of altruistic awakening.
As far as features, what one person may consider "crippling", may not mean the same to another. Obviously, the intention is not to cripple the device. HTC (or Apple for that matter) would argue that most people value slimness and smooth design over SD slots and removable battery covers. Of course, not everyone will agree. And some of what HTC is doing might just be categorized as being a copy cat to many of the things that Apple has done to the smartphone.
Sammy has simply decided to take a different industrial design philosophy. They don't push the envelope in this category, although they do leave in a lot of features like the OP points out. But to me, their physical designs are uninspired and a bit bland, relying heavily on cheap looking/feeling plastics.
In the end, its just different approaches on how to design the same type of product. And Samsung's success probably has more to do with the fact they were a much larger company to begin with, with a huge advertising machine.
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