https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad.v2
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...in-the-play-store-is-free-for-a-limited-time/
I'm not totally sure how many features listed in the press release (located at the android police link above) are actually new over the splashtop we have in Asus cloud. It does appear to have a new interface and different security methods. One thing I'd love to have is a virtual second monitor, but I don't see that listed as an option.
It also appears to have lost the free google chat api IP location feature in favor of splashtop access anywhere subscription fee. But I never used that feature anyway.
Holy smokes, it seems they royally pissed off many of their customers. What the hell happened? The reviews are insane.
Several one star reviews appear to have been left before the app became free, to read them. They were mad because ipad users who were existing splashtop 1 customers got a free upgrade and they didn't. But it is free now (and today is the first day of splashtop 2 for android I believe), so they must have reviewed it just after it was listed. Probably some others are mad about the subscription model.
Existing customers of splashtop on the ipad were offered to upgrade to splashtop 2 for free. In addition they would receive the remote access feature outside of the same network for free. New customers will need to subscribe. The android version of splashtop 2 makes no such claim hence the horrible reviews.
http://support-remote.splashtop.com...get-a-free-anywhere-access-pack-for-ipad-only
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So is it free inside the same network, but you have to pay for remote access? Thats not bad since my main attraction is accessing my servers upstairs, but I really dont mind just picking up the laptop, it would be useful though at time.
No monthly fee inside the network but the thing is its free inside or outside the network with splashtop 1 and it looks like it will continue to function for free since it runs through google. I assume the fee is to maintain their own splashtop servers that will manage the data now.
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No monthly fee inside the network but the thing is its free inside or outside the network with splashtop 1 and it looks like it will continue to function for free since it runs through google. I assume the fee is to maintain their own splashtop servers that will manage the data now.
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Will check them both out, I appreciate that clarification.
Can someone highlight the major differences between this version and the THD version?
THD is optimized for Tegra devices. Really, the only major difference is that it runs better graphics wise. There's a video out there where someone is playing Skyrim on their tablet.
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The only thing i wish this app would do is let me open Windows Media Center in full screen while watching tv.
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You understand you already have splashtop 1, right? In asus mycloud. Really I've never heard of anyone being quite so generous with actually useful extra software as asus.
Can someone highlight the major differences between this version and the THD version?
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THD is optimized for Tegra devices. Really, the only major difference is that it runs better graphics wise. There's a video out there where someone is playing Skyrim on their tablet.
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There are also UI changes, improved security, and supposedly, better optimization (less bandwidth used). My guess is the gulf will widen as splashtop 2 matures. There's zero reason not to go ahead and grab this on your account for free while you still can. Easiest decision ever.
Just want to add that this was in the support section of the splashtop site:
Why does Splashtop 2 have a Subscription Model?
We are maintaining a global relay server infrastructure to support Splashtop 2 users. We have related on-going costs to support the reliability, security, and high performance of Splashtop 2 over the Internet and 3G networks. Your support allows us to continue to invest in and deliver best-in-class products for our users.
Makes sense.
But it's still annoying the existing Splashtop iPad users get it permanently.
I sent a ticket to Splashtop about the issue. I did get the 1 year free but I am still going to fight tooth and nail to get the perma because it is completely unfair.
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I tried out version 2 yesterday, and one nice thing I noticed was that the desktop mouse actually followed the tablet mouse around, making mouseovers and other things easier. I seem to recall in splashtop one (asus mycloud) you had to tap somewhere to get the cursor in place. I didn't exactly do a back to back comparison, but I felt like it was sharper and less jerky as well, possibly due to more optimization.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad.v2
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...in-the-play-store-is-free-for-a-limited-time/
I'm not totally sure how many features listed in the press release (located at the android police link above) are actually new over the splashtop we have in Asus cloud. It does appear to have a new interface and different security methods. One thing I'd love to have is a virtual second monitor, but I don't see that listed as an option.
It also appears to have lost the free google chat api IP location feature in favor of splashtop access anywhere subscription fee. But I never used that feature anyway.
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Awesome find!!! I am actually using splashtop right now to post this with my tablet through my desktop
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Awesome find!!! I am actually using splashtop right now to post this with my tablet through my desktop
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For what it's worth, SplashTop HD V1 (which comes with the TF700) actually has more features than version 2! Internet discovery is free in V1, but they charge a monthly fee for the same thing in V2! I actually paid for the HD version of Splashtop V1 - and now they want me to update to a "subscription" model? I don't think so! App upgrades should be free and not take away features.
So, if you need the ability to connect to a PC via the internet, stick with the version that came with your Transformer....
What's really messed up is that existing iPad users get Internet Discovery for free (for life) because of a "glitch" in the way the Splashtop authors wrote the app (or some BS like that)!
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After the backlash they've gotten after they did release the app for free, they probably will start hating android users as they've been accused of in the reviews. iOS users have paid way more for their software overall than we have, we have way more freebies. But the one time they get a better deal, our side throws the world's biggest tantrum and makes devs everywhere wonder once again why they'd want to commit too many resources to android development. This is why we have a larger install base, but they still have better apps. Get a grip.
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After the backlash they've gotten after they did release the app for free, they probably will start hating android users as they've been accused of in the reviews. iOS users have paid way more for their software overall than we have, we have way more freebies. But the one time they get a better deal, our side throws the world's biggest tantrum and makes devs everywhere wonder once again why they'd want to commit too many resources to android development. This is why we have a larger install base, but they still have better apps. Get a grip.
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The bigger problem is that I actually PAID for the HD version of Splashtop V1 and they said upgrades would be free (just like any other Android app). Now that they've come out with "Version 2" (and made it "free"), if I were to "upgrade", I just wouldn't have the same functionality that I originally paid for!
So when I asked about this, they said that version 2 wasn't really an "upgrade", but an entirely different product - so then why is it called "Version 2"??? The problem is that while version 1 is still usable, I'm sure they are not going to continue to update it, so in effect, I'm left with a "dead" product and would have to pay *again* (via the subscription fees) for features that I already paid for to stay with the current product.
It's bad business and obviously others aren't happy about it either (regardless of Apple "free upgrades" for life BS). All that they had to to was to continue to provide BOTH methods of connection over the internet in "Version 2" - they I could stay continue to do what I've always done and stayed on a current version of the software.
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I don't agree with you anymore than I did before, but I do regret the "get a grip" (which is more appropriate explicitly directed at play store reviewers who have gone overboard) remark. It was unnecessary, mea culpa.
Major version upgrades always screw someone -- the person who buys win7 right before win8 debuts (although in that specific case -- maybe they dodged a bullet ), or a gingerbread device just old enough to not get further upgrades, or Black Ops 1 just before Black Ops 2 gets a released date. I've been that person, and it sucks. But you do still have what you paid for in this case, and then some. Sales screw people too -- the ones who bought a little too early or a little too late. You can't please everyone. Given that support for the older version has either ended or will taper off, it isn't the best deal you've ever gotten, but then sometimes you get a lot more support for a lot longer than you expect, and it all comes out in the wash. This case is certainly no cause to declare splashtop some sort of lying, cheating, thieving enemy of freedom and democracy.
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I don't agree with you anymore than I did before, but I do regret the "get a grip" (which is more appropriate explicitly directed at play store reviewers who have gone overboard) remark. It was unnecessary, mea culpa.
Major version upgrades always screw someone -- the person who buys win7 right before win8 debuts (although in that specific case -- maybe they dodged a bullet ), or a gingerbread device just old enough to not get further upgrades, or Black Ops 1 just before Black Ops 2 gets a released date. I've been that person, and it sucks. But you do still have what you paid for in this case, and then some. Sales screw people too -- the ones who bought a little too early or a little too late. You can't please everyone. Given that support for the older version has either ended or will taper off, it isn't the best deal you've ever gotten, but then sometimes you get a lot more support for a lot longer than you expect, and it all comes out in the wash. This case is certainly no cause to declare splashtop some sort of lying, cheating, thieving enemy of freedom and democracy.
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I have to agree here,though their policy of switching from payfor app to payfor service is a bit shady, name one major software label where you get free upgrades past bug fixes. You're lucky if don't drop support completely.
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I have to say I am still pretty happy with my Nexus-S 4G. I am loving the stock/vanilla Android OS, after trying many different ROM's and launchers, I always seem to go back to the "pure" launcher and style. I do have the Oxygen ROM which is the base Android OS just tweaked and stripped to be very fast with good battery life.
I was tempted to get the Sprint Galaxy S2, while it is a great phone, probably the best Android device for sale right now, it just did not seem night and day radically better than my Nexus-S. The S II still runs Gingerbread and looks so similar to my Nexus I don't see the need to get that phone right now. And my Nexus is not slow by any means. I am eagerly waiting for the reveal of the next Nexus-Three device with "Ice Cream", that would be the first to tempt me away, or at least get Ice Cream running stock on my Nexus-S.
If there is any beef with this phone, it is the radio/network, and Sprint's poor 3G service lately. Hopefully we get good news next month when the CEO of Sprint discusses the future network plans on Oct 7th.
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Yeah I'm not complaining at all about it. I was running Pete's bb rom before this and his rooted stock before that. Now, I'm running miui. I thought, coming from the preference of vanilla ui, that who in the hell would want a rom that's a cross bastardized version of ios and touchwiz? I am/was under the thought that ios was very limited on what could be done with it.
Miui is really starting to grow on me. I'm almost ashamed to admit I'm getting the itch to get a new phone after my ns4g and it being the iPhone. I definitely want the nexus 3 too but those phones will probably be released very close to each other.
Unfortunately, I will have to deal with the looks and comments from my old lady, whenever I get a new phone. I will not give my ns4g to her because I see how she treats phones. I suppose one thing that would keep her quiet is if I got her an iPhone too. About 1500 for two new phones, full price, not eligible for upgrades yet. Sigh, it's only money right?
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I plan to run this phone til the wheels come off.
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I plan to run this phone til the wheels come off.
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+1 x 10 = hell yeaaaaa.
I came from the g2x and can never be happier with this ns4g
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nexus s is my first smartphone and i would not try another the next time ...
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Nexus s is my first REAL smartphone
I've had or used extensively a mt3g, epic 4g, evo 4g, evo shift 4g, Droid x, huawei ascend 2 and an iPhone 3gs and of those I like my nexus the best. However, my mother in law just got a sensation 4g and if I'm honest, I think I'd enjoy that better.
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So I take it you prefer android over iPhone? Care to share your reasons for liking one and not liking the other?
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So I take it you prefer android over iPhone? Care to share your reasons for liking one and not liking the other?
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Open source. Multitasking. Variety. Google. Etc.
Edit: scratch that. Nexus S 4G.
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IMO, Nexus S is a piece of outdated hardware, since day 1, when it was release last year December 2010, at that very same time its brothers/cousins have been having way much better spec than it does.
the pure Android experience was not as fun as promised by the Nexus One hyped owners promised
So my next device will most definitely not be Nexus 3, which is yet another outdated antique, its SGS2 brothers/cousins has waaaaaaaaay better hardware than it does.
and we all know by now that support across Samsung devices is thriving like CM7 and all the countless of customized kernels and mods that you can find
The 2nd reason why i picked Nexus S, was simply because it was unlocked and works on AWS signal
there was nothing at the time, else i'd have most likely gone for a better phone
the lack of the SD slot is a major drawback, can't do things as i used to, i'm not having fun as i used to, all because of the missing space, the phone is just a phone right now, can't enjoy it as it ran out of space all the time, no matter how much stuff i send up to the clouds, there is never enough space for me
clouds is not cheap either if you don't have an unlimited internet for the phone
and the 3G speed is not that great to send up and down 500 meg of data whenever you feel like playing another game, or watching another movie
i'm sure this phone is more than enough or even great for most people, but i'm not most people
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I personally prefer android because of the ease of customization that can be done even without rooting. iOS devices are great, don't get me wrong. I'm not an iHater, but for me and my uses they don't work as well as Android. The reason iOS is so great is that it just works. Period. From the first boot to the last, an iOS device is going to work exactly like Apple intended it to.
The Android Vs. Apple debate is much akin to the Win Vs Mac debate. Apple builds its software to work on its hardware and it does, thats the reason I buy Mac laptops; in the 6 years I've owned them I've had three issues two of which were hardware failures and one was my wife's fault (she spilled soda on the keyboard). All three of the issues were solved on the spot by Apple with a total of 5 hours and $0.00 of my time and money lost to waiting and repairs. Five hours. When my wife's Compaq laptop got its THIRD motherboard recall in TWO years it took me three hours on the phone to find out I had found out about the recall one week late and was then told it would cost me $400 dollars and 4-6 weeks to get it. I ended up having to manually recover what data I could from her hard drive and the rest was lost.
Windows machines allow the user to do much more personal customization and give them much more choice in terms of hardware but the cost of that is a much higher level of system failure. Its the same way with android. I can't begin to account for the hours I've wasted setting up and customizing my wife's and my phones only to have issues come up and its all lost. I've lost count of the number of times I've had to run terminal commands to get my phone to even boot. If I had an iOS device, that probably wouldn't happen but I'd also not feel like my phone UI looks and runs like I want it to.
In a rather long-winded and round-a-bout way, the point I'm getting at is that if you want a phone that simply works, makes calls, gets texts, so and and so forth then iPhone is a great choice. But if you want a phone that you can hack to bits and make to be a reflection of your personality then Android is you choice. That's my opinion at least.
yes and no
leagues happier than my iphone but some what less impressed by others android phones. But hey it was free.
I don't understand everyone complaining of a lack of SD slot. It mounts so you can use it as a portable drive, it also allows a much higher I/O. There's not one thing that a removable SD card would allow me to do more than what I can do now except potentially lose a tiny piece of my phone.
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the internal SD doesn't have enough space, it just as simple as that
13GB fills up in a blink of an eye
I'm still happy with it for the most part. The only serious gripe I have at this point is RAM; it doesn't have enough to deal with the number of apps that like to run in the background eating up those tiny 2-5 MB chunks these days, and it doesn't always dump them from memory efficiently enough to play memory-intensive games nicely without first going in and killing processes. Also, it just came back from its second Best Buy repair, so... a little touchy hardware-wise perhaps.
I like vanilla Google and am not a huge fan of rooting and modding, though, so I'd be reluctant to move away from the Nexus line. I just hope the next one has a lot more RAM, and keeps a larger portion of it free at any given time for gaming. And is maybe less prone to needing to be fixed. >.>
RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
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RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
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Seriously? 75mb? Running services will always show me 240mb+ free ram.
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RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
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The problem is when apps and games do run in the background, and there's no way to close them completely without going through task manager. Granted that's as much a complaint about the apps in question as about Android itself, but there will always be apps that don't behave properly in all respects. The OS should be able to handle them without user intervention.
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The problem is when apps and games do run in the background, and there's no way to close them completely without going through task manager. Granted that's as much a complaint about the apps in question as about Android itself, but there will always be apps that don't behave properly in all respects. The OS should be able to handle them without user intervention.
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Every app I exit out of, I exit with the back button for an exit dialog or use the menu-exit option. Never have 'stuff running'.
Some apps have components that always run(new facebook and google+ updates), I uninstall those apps and use the browser.
I don't experience what you're describing.
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Now, the reasons for these app crashes are numerous. Everything from iOS 5 being new to the market, problems with hardware, internet connectivity, language support, or just plain ‘ol poorly coded apps. It can even be argued that because there are so many more iOS devices than Andr– oh, wait. I almost forgot. There isn’t.
Even with this newly released data, I almost still don’t believe it. Android. With all the talks of fragmentation, force closes and incompatible apps, could somehow turn out to be more stable than iOS? Well, slap my momma and call me Sally. Who’d-a-thunkit. Now, I’m sure this will come off as the flames of an Android fanboy but I assure you, I’m not hating. Just found this information interesting and felt like sharing. Did this data surprise any of you?
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http://phandroid.com/2012/02/03/android-vs-ios-which-is-really-more-stable-new-data-may-surprise-you/
That's definitely something, considering iPhone has a "strict" marketplace, where only select apps are approved.
This is interesting, I would have expected them to be roughly even with android slightly ahead with the crashes considering all the variables, I am pleased to be wrong. I just hope at least some iusers see this before they go off spouting nonsense as they usually do about how totally stable ios is and how it "Just works"
For the record, that shouldn't be iOS is less stable than Android, it should be iOS Apps are less stable than Android Apps. They're not measuring OS crashes.
I get that the OS affects how and how well apps run. But so do a lot of other factors... e.g. devs fixing bugs in the code, etc.
That said, I also know that for the user, the experience itself matters, not the reason(s) for it.
I remember myself having someone with a ipod touch others with iphone having crashes so much, and running the early version of teamhacksung's ICS on my cappy has had very little crashes.. A lot less then I seen in a week of this ios crap :/
It is funny how hard the owners of ios devices try to say they are better, but you always know that's never going to be true with iOS being more unstable, out of date, and non open source..
How ironic that the apps must be approved by apple first before it goes into the app store.
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I had an iPhone 3GS but was never an i-sheep. I'm very happy in the Android camp. Innovation, tweaking and customizing are all good things that we do here.
And to the Dev community for making that happen, big up yuself!
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For the record, that shouldn't be iOS is less stable than Android, it should be iOS Apps are less stable than Android Apps. They're not measuring OS crashes.
I get that the OS affects how and how well apps run. But so do a lot of other factors... e.g. devs fixing bugs in the code, etc.
That said, I also know that for the user, the experience itself matters, not the reason(s) for it.
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I think it might have something to do with how easy it is to get your code compatible with iOS and the system being able to handle it.. The apps prob crash because the system is crap but I don't really know.. all I know from experience is that iPhones are cheap, boring to use, and ios has a LOT of issues..
Apple just likes to make it as cheap as they can and release it for a high price and people buy it because they hear about this "wonderful apple stuff"
I, too, would expect iOS apps to be far more stable, but it's nice to be wrong about that
YAY ANDROID <3
very interesting article, never would have though of that, considering how Apple is so arrogant and control freak is about their "quality"
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That article is completely false. Just another ploy by Android.
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Something tells me its not..... I really can't go by that :/ I think its real, but I don't have a iPhone xD
I have seen myself how unstable it is.. so that is pretty good evidence that this article is right.
I've had both iOS and andriod phones. In my opinion Andriod is far superior then iOS and Im glad there is research done now backing this up. The general public just likes simple and pretty so thats why iOS has a better repution but its just a matter of time as Andriod starts to shine in ICS.
In fairness, it does sound a bit fanboy to me. You can't really measure this in a real-world situation unless every single app crash is reported, and the reasons why it crashed was then analysed.
I root for Android (see what I did there?), but I'd rather something I believed over something I'd like.
I'm not a fanboy or anything iPhones tend to crash a lot when the os doesn't kill off background apps. Apps usually crash at the start up screen so many people won't be able to notice it. I'm currently using an iPhone 3GS since my galaxy s is broken.
Intriguing and believable but I wold also like to see more in depth information about which apps crash and what leads to a crash. Compatibility with a new OS version is part of the equation.
What I take from this is that all code monkeys are human and nothing is perfect. Apple's line about how iOS 'just works,' is where they wants us to believe that they are better than human and are not prone to mistakes.
Believe what you will.
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Apple's line about how iOS 'just works,' is where they wants us to believe that they are better than human and are not prone to mistakes.
Believe what you will.
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That's why exposure like this is good. Even if the report said ios was even with android in crashes or even if it said it had less app crashes, it helps to educate that ios does have problems just like everything else and that people who purchased ios because it didn't have bugs or problems like android should reconsider their stance. For many people "it just works" is a major selling point for apple, and its wrong.
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What exposure?
What I find most surprising is that the tech media has not picked up on this story that was started on Forbes.com. I don't see it mentioned on engadget, macrumors, not even cnet. Yet the verizon galaxy nexus not receiving support has been reported everywhere only to be debunked an hour later.
I'm beginning to really think that the media has a pro-Apple bias.
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What exposure? .....I'm beginning to really think that the media has a pro-Apple bias.
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Perhaps. Thus far it has been easy to dismiss and criticize Android on so many levels. i.e. -It's 'fragmented' and no minimum hardware specs means one sees the 'incompatible with your device' message. It has been easy to publish mal-ware and other junk on the Android market (Bouncer is long overdue).
These and other reasons can lead journalists and others who can only focus on the present to see Android as unorganized.
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What exposure?
What I find most surprising is that the tech media has not picked up on this story that was started on Forbes.com. I don't see it mentioned on engadget, macrumors, not even cnet. Yet the verizon galaxy nexus not receiving support has been reported everywhere only to be debunked an hour later.
I'm beginning to really think that the media has a pro-Apple bias.
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I remember watching a morning show on either CBS or NBC(I can't quite remember) one morning where they were doing a tech review.
the tech reviewer was talking to the anchor about just coming out(at the time) Galaxy Nexus and the new Android OS, ICS.
10 seconds into the review the anchor cuts the reviewer off, starts talking about his iPhone and the Apple store down the street from the studio, and the conversation became about Apple from then on.
no other mention of Android products after that.
This is how the media is and has been playing it for sometime.
it's been blasted, talked about everywhere in the media, and basically jammed down our throats that the iPhone just works and (basically) nothing else matters.
it's sad and funny at the same time since even without media support Android has gained the bigger market share.
after all those applers bragging with their iphones, im happy to read that ...
iphone this, iphone that... Take that M*t*e*f*c*e*s
So in what ways you think than Android is better than IOS
Heres what i got
iPhones have:
Smaller screens
Slower Data Speeds
Lower Durability
Slower prosseser
Very Boring UI
No Flash
No download support from Browser
No themes/Launcher (Unless its Jailbroken)
Anything to add here?
Camera can't compare to the Amaze
no video chat over mobile data
no third party music player or video player
no way to install apps other than through app store
TETHERED TO ITUNES FOR ALL MEDIA CONTENT -_____-
no expandable memory
cant replace/remove battery
alx294 said:
Camera can't compare to the Amaze
no video chat over mobile data
no third party music player or video player
no way to install apps other than through app store
TETHERED TO ITUNES FOR ALL MEDIA CONTENT -_____-
cant replace/remove battery
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Does Installous count
Lame ass apps, that are very unstable, eg. Infinity blade (from my own experience). Veeerryy low ram for standards that android phones have set these days. And a ui that hasn't changed for years
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It's Apple
Chuck Norris can but Walker Texas Ranger can't.
-the fact that Apple releases so called "improved" iphone every year with barely any changes
-no widgets
-sometimes a hassle to update the software
UI, and Screens are just your opinions. not really facts; not nececarilly a bad thing. the processor of the 4s isnt slow, but its pointless in the iphone. other than that im with you! i could never use a screen that small lol
1-boring UI
2-using iOS is like living in a cage
3-its a dream phone for kids,cheerleader,*****,chloe kardashian
kecikhebat said:
1-boring UI
2-using iOS is like living in a cage
3-its a dream phone for kids,cheerleader,*****,chloe kardashian, justin bieber
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fixed what you said
It's the epitome of complacency
Custom keyboards!
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Well atleast u get software updates on iphone ...
the only bad thing id have to say about IOS is the lack of custimizability, some poeple like the simplicity of iOS nto everyone wants to flash ... but the most important thing for me was Unlockability. Amaze > and the camera ofcourse which is one of the best out there. but i did like the weight and shape of iphone 4 and battery life was not bad either
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This is the main reason.
Honestly my main reason is "boring"
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I honestly think IOS is better and would get one for the wife if it was on T-Mobile. I can manage with Android since it allows me to do a little more than I would be able to if I had an IOS device. WHat I like about IOS is the apps are of much higher quality.
For someone like my wife the iphone would be better. She complains about the random reboots, apps crashing and some of the other annoyances that come with Android so I know she would love the iphone.
O just don't like ios too mainstream
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95% of Apple iPhone users I have met all have been complete and utter morons that would follow their precious phones if it was thrown off a cliff.
Being 110% cereal too! I even let people know that are decent that I am utter shock they own an iPhone, lol!
I am no follower. Hell I used BB for 6 years....
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iOS is smoother than Android and handles most things better. Android wasn't meant to have a touch interface since it was first made to compete with Blackberry and other systems that used a trackball/keyboard rather than a touchscreen slate. So as a result, they didn't bother starting from scratch and decided to just implement touchscreen onto their existing revisions... Not saying Android is bad by any means, but there are things that iOS does properly that Android does not. For example, the touch delay that exists in every Android device will most likely never be solved due to the architecture of the OS - to see this delay, go play Fruit Ninja or something and you'll notice that the sword trail is always lagging behind your finger and is never directly under your finger while you're moving.
However, I despise Apple with a passion. Their products are great, but they are also immensely overpriced and restrictive. They market their products in a dishonest way to trick the common consumer into thinking that it's the greatest thing on the planet. However, they do tend to take care of their customers in terms of updates, unlike Android because even the iPhone 3GS got their latest iOS 5 update while we're still waiting for an ICS update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557484
These 2 videos say it all eventhough it's slightly biased.
adslee said:
iOS is smoother than Android and handles most things better. Android wasn't meant to have a touch interface since it was first made to compete with Blackberry and other systems that used a trackball/keyboard rather than a touchscreen slate. So as a result, they didn't bother starting from scratch and decided to just implement touchscreen onto their existing revisions... Not saying Android is bad by any means, but there are things that iOS does properly that Android does not. For example, the touch delay that exists in every Android device will most likely never be solved due to the architecture of the OS - to see this delay, go play Fruit Ninja or something and you'll notice that the sword trail is always lagging behind your finger and is never directly under your finger while you're moving.
However, I despise Apple with a passion. Their products are great, but they are also immensely overpriced and restrictive. They market their products in a dishonest way to trick the common consumer into thinking that it's the greatest thing on the planet. However, they do tend to take care of their customers in terms of updates, unlike Android because even the iPhone 3GS got their latest iOS 5 update while we're still waiting for an ICS update.
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+1. Example of smoothness - open web browser in both iPhone and a high end android phone like amaze, open a webpage and trying scrolling - you will see iPhone is significantly smoother than amaze. Any improvements in hardware (you can have quad core processor and a 4 gb of ram) won't make up for a not-so-good architecture. OS update is another big issue with all android manufacturers. If I buy a phone on a 2 year contract, I should get updates for 2 years. Apple provides updates for older devices as long as old hardware can handle it and look at the android world - mytouch4g slide is more than capable of running ICS but HTC/TMO won't provide update and indirectly force customers to buy new device with little to no hardware improvement long before their contract is over. Having said that, I still like my amaze for a couple extra features and data service that tmo provides.
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Announcement:
With the recent announcement that the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus series will be getting ICS next month (in July), and the implied failure of Samsung to deliver ICS in June after previously announcing it, Samsung has managed to take over the Second Greatest Lie in the World, displacing "I won't cum in your mouth." If Samsung succeeds in this same pattern for the next 8 months, it will have a shot at taking over the top spot, still held by "The check is in the mail." The current top three Greatest Lies in the World, in rank order, are:
#1: The check is in the mail.
#2: You'll get ICS next month.
#3: I won't cum in your mouth.
Company representatives declined to be interviewed officially for this story, stating that they'll make an official press release in the beginning of next month. However, they have allowed information to leak anonymously that Samsung believes they have held the #2 spot all along, as "I won't cum in your mouth" only applies to Apple products sold in the USA.
In addition, Samsung lawyers have filed in injunction in Canadian courts attempting to displace "The check is in the mail." According to the documents filed, Samsung believes that this statement must be broken into two seperate statements, one for paper mail and another for electronic mail. Doing so would allow Samsung's ICS promise to overtake the number one spot.
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LOL. Hope Samsung is reading this thread.
ahhahaha EPIC
Must be getting old :fingers-crossed:. i thought the number one lie was "The Dog Ate It!" :cyclops:
Damn gary, I thought you did known better.
Ics update to us is "eligible" for one of the greatest lies. There is no real position for it yet.
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Did they happen to mention July of what year?
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Did they happen to mention July of what year?
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Hmm, I think you probably meant to say "of what decade".
Gents,
a few questions.
a.) Which is the functionality that is only present in ICS and you can't use it in
Honeycomb right now?
b.) If you are so fed-up with your Samsung why don't you sell it and buy something else?
Honestly for me it doesn't matter if I get ICS in July, August or next year.
I am just perfectly fine with the current 3.2 version. Both my 7+ and 7.7 can
do just the thing I need them to do.
It's just funny to see different threads talking about the same cr*p, how certain people is fed-up with their tablets but they can't do anything else then wine. Guess they are not THAT fed-up with the tablet at all (if they still have their tablets). Or?
Why did you wrote this post. Do you think we would agree with you even remotely. I think you'd better farted.
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nutzo said:
Gents,
a few questions.
a.) Which is the functionality that is only present in ICS and you can't use it in
Honeycomb right now?
b.) If you are so fed-up with your Samsung why don't you sell it and buy something else?
Honestly for me it doesn't matter if I get ICS in July, August or next year.
I am just perfectly fine with the current 3.2 version. Both my 7+ and 7.7 can
do just the thing I need them to do.
It's just funny to see different threads talking about the same cr*p, how certain people is fed-up with their tablets but they can't do anything else then wine. Guess they are not THAT fed-up with the tablet at all (if they still have their tablets). Or?
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A) Better battery life, better memory management, the ability to clear the Recent Apps list, the ability to use Chrome, the ability to save videos offline in the YouTube app, fixed Wifi Sleep of Death issues, upgraded standard browser... The list goes on.
B) If the Nexus 7 shows up in store soon, I may well do so.
Most of those people would jump ship if there was a reasonable alternative available. Enter the Nexus 7 and maybe Asus's original tablet.
I agree in some parts with the pro HC guy. There are no strong reasons for someone sell or buy other tablets only for the ICS. And a lot of people are pissed with HC only because ics exists.
But unfortunately he posted In a slightly wrong thread. As this one is biased on the lack of respect of samsung on keep promisses.
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I agree in some parts with the pro HC guy. There are no strong reasons for someone sell or buy other tablets only for the ICS. And a lot of people are pissed with HC only because ics exists.
But unfortunately he posted In a slightly wrong thread. As this one is biased on the lack of respect of samsung on keep promisses.
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I'm pissed with HC because it's still bugged - it's not GPU accelerated and gets sluggish at times, and many various bugs aren't patched - those fixes come in ICS (as listed above). More importantly Google appears to have completely abandoned HC support in favour of the unified ICS OS, which incorporates fixes and improvements to performance, battery life, various kernel bugs which caused the Sleep of Death problems, and more software is getting out there which either needs ICS for full functionality (or to run at all).
And the worst part? Samsung's been making empty promises for months, while pushing out tablets which are very similar to the 7+ in hardware with ICS already in place. All the while talking about how the original devices are eligible for upgrades... but then mysteriously letting the deadlines get extended. Even for Nexus devices, some of which are still waiting for current versions of ICS - yet they're able to ship out new Galaxy S III's with the most current Honeycomb version in markets where Galaxy Nexus phones are still waiting for 4.0.2 or 4.0.4 (which is on the Galaxy S III). It's obviously not a problem with being unable to recompile the radios or whatever's delaying those devices - it seems more that they're unwilling to deliver updates to keep your phone secure and current in features, and would much rather you buy a new device. Even if you're on the 'pure Android' Nexus, much less one of the Galaxy Tabs like what most of the people here have.
I'm just very, very glad that Asus got the Nexus 7 tablet - at least they deliver updates, even if some of the updates need fixing on occasion.
The only reason a Galaxy Nexus would be waiting on an updated is because of the carrier that it is on. Different carrier set-ups require different software tweaks. That's why only unlocked GSM devices are "true" Nexus devices.
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nutzo said:
Gents,
a few questions.
a.) Which is the functionality that is only present in ICS and you can't use it in
Honeycomb right now?
b.) If you are so fed-up with your Samsung why don't you sell it and buy something else?
Honestly for me it doesn't matter if I get ICS in July, August or next year.
I am just perfectly fine with the current 3.2 version. Both my 7+ and 7.7 can
do just the thing I need them to do.
It's just funny to see different threads talking about the same cr*p, how certain people is fed-up with their tablets but they can't do anything else then wine. Guess they are not THAT fed-up with the tablet at all (if they still have their tablets). Or?
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I agree with you about the Samsung not updating thing because it isn't exactly new, so we really have no real grounds to complain about common knowledge.
nutzo said:
Gents,
a few questions.
a.) Which is the functionality that is only present in ICS and you can't use it in
Honeycomb right now?
b.) If you are so fed-up with your Samsung why don't you sell it and buy something else?
Honestly for me it doesn't matter if I get ICS in July, August or next year.
I am just perfectly fine with the current 3.2 version. Both my 7+ and 7.7 can
do just the thing I need them to do.
It's just funny to see different threads talking about the same cr*p, how certain people is fed-up with their tablets but they can't do anything else then wine. Guess they are not THAT fed-up with the tablet at all (if they still have their tablets). Or?
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Well u must put in consideration that not all of us use our tabs the same am I right? I agree that its not really that big of a deal. But I can see how it can for some people. Me and my friend bought the same tab but he uses it for almost everything. From entertainment(movies, gaming YouTube...) to school work. And I have seen his device its not as fast as mine. And if ics seems more promising then maybe its worth a shot. Its free right? You've got nothing to loose really? But personally I've tried ics on my sisters Sony tab and I must say that honestly there is a substantial difference in performance. As for heavy users I mean. But hey its just an update its a win win situation for everyone right?
Oh man, that was funny. Although, I was always under the impression that the number one lie in the world was, "I love you too."
The UK user manual has been updated on the 6th to include details about using ICS.
One can only assume that it is expected pretty sharpish;
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c..._UM_EU_Icecream_Eng_Rev.1.0_120704_Screen.pdf
SWFlyerUK said:
The UK user manual has been updated on the 6th to include details about using ICS.
One can only assume that it is expected pretty sharpish;
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c..._UM_EU_Icecream_Eng_Rev.1.0_120704_Screen.pdf
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Hopefully it will be out real soon...
Well, in my experiance of manuals being put on the website - the firmware has been released the following week. Has happened with Archos a few times.
I have to give respect to windows. This tablet is REALLY nice. Checked it out in best buy and its basically our infinity with an extra gig of ram. Super fast and the office integration is amazing. I still love my infinity and no way would i trade it in for the rts now, but Microsoft has definitely taken a step in the right direction. Especially love the fact i can move between the tiled display and windows 8...pretty clutch move on Microsoft. Definitely gives me something to think about for when i decide to upgrade later down the road... never thought i would ever say that again about a windows mobile product...
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pierrekid said:
Especially love the fact i can move between the tiled display and windows 8
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No, you can move between the tiled display and a desktop that runs only Office, a file explorer, some settings dialogs and a command window, and that nobody is allowed to develop applications for.
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No, you can move between the tiled display and a desktop that runs only Office, a file explorer, some settings dialogs and a command window, and that nobody is allowed to develop applications for.
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lol ok...its still a pretty neat feature. Not saying its groundbreaking, just clutch for people who are used to a windows interface.
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They're a lot bigger than I thought they'd be and are hard to use in portrait mode. Someone with a Note just bought a Samsung Ativ and he's posting his comparisons if you guys are interested. It's Atom though, not RT. P.S. - The TF700's the same size as the Note.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957857
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They're a lot bigger than I thought they'd be and are hard to use in portrait mode. Someone with a Note just bought a Samsung Ativ and he's posting his comparisons if you guys are interested. It's Atom though, not RT. P.S. - The TF700's the same size as the Note.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957857
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Thats not the rts...
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We looked at the Asus Vivo at BestBuy.
Lot of people were asking questions about it.
600 bucks tho...too much money to spend.
It is nice, yet for 600 I think the Microsoft RT8 Surface is a better deal.
The wife's Surface should be here in the next week or so.
I'd pass on Windows RT and go only for WIndows 8 Pro
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We looked at the Asus Vivo at BestBuy.
Lot of people were asking questions about it.
600 bucks tho...too much money to spend.
It is nice, yet for 600 I think the Microsoft RT8 Surface is a better deal.
The wife's Surface should be here in the next week or so.
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This i agree on. WAY to expensive... but still a nice tab
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I'd pass on Windows RT and go only for WIndows 8 Pro
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Yep an Intel based Win8 Ultrabook would be sweet...$800.00 bucks for the low end HP Envy...ouch baby!
You can't even play an mkv movie on that thing. It's way way too early to think about switching to such a new system.
I bought a surface and within 10 minutes I had a bug where I couldnt navigate away from an item in the app store and a windows error box popped up. Lets hope it gets smoothed out. I do like the type keyboard though
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I bought a Lenovo Yoga (full on Win8) yesterday. It's pretty slick. No more Android tablet for me for awhile.
The one that has really caught my eye is the Samsung Series 5/7. It's really "transformer like". So expensive though...
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/tablet-pcs/XE700T1C-A02US
It's little brother is more affordable, but still:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/tablet-pcs/XE500T1C-A01US
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The one that has really caught my eye is the Samsung Series 5/7. It's really "transformer like". So expensive though...
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/tablet-pcs/XE700T1C-A02US
It's little brother is more affordable, but still:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/tablet-pcs/XE500T1C-A01US
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ATIV-Smart-Pro-700T/dp/B0098O9TRO
Damn Amazon doesn't offer any break in cost for the ATIV Smart Pro.
Nice little taptop however...the price on these things really needs to drop.
At least the Envy line is less money...I'm a fan of the HP line.
It is definitely interesting player in tablet market.
But surface don't have full HD display though they claim to use special technology. Plus it is still very small market for apps.
Personally, Windows Surface Pro is my interest lies with three concerns:
1. Battery life
2. Weight
3. Price
Official specs: http://www.microsoft.com/Surface/en-US/surface-with-windows-8-pro/specifications
If anyone talks about desktop replacement with tablet, I guess no doubt this would be the one. If talks about benchmark, I believe i5 CPU should still be far more powerful than any of SoC.
However, if battery life is mere 5 hours, weight is like 2lbs, and priced at $1200..., it is no longer considered as tablet gadget/budget. So it will be really interesting to see how Microsoft will pull this out in the end (Jan 2013).
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Plus it is still very small market for apps.
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Do you knlw that surface rt launched with plenty(I heard 7000 apps but looking for confirmation on that) compatible apps in windows store? I'd say that's one helluva way to start off a launch, software wise. I've seen most of the Major android/IOS apps on there already. There's a YouTube videoshowing a person going to Mkcrlsoft app store with his surface. It was filled with apps.
Of course its small compared to Android/IOS, but it has more than enough apps considering it just launched. IMO
Don't forget, there are more windows developers worldwide than Android and IOS combined. Its far easier for exsisting developers to upgrade their legacy/x86 apps to be RT compatible vs. Them try to port it Android/IOS. It won't be long before they have a comparable Mount of apps also.
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Do you know that surface rt launched with plenty(I heard 7000 apps but looking for confirmation on that) compatible apps in windows store? I'd say that's one helluva way to start off a launch, software wise. I've seen most of the Major android/IOS apps on there already. There's a YouTube video showing a person going to Microsoft app store with his surface. It was filled with apps.
Of course its small compared to Android/IOS, but it has more than enough apps considering it just launched. IMO
Don't forget, there are more windows developers worldwide than Android and IOS combined. Its far easier for existing developers to upgrade their legacy/x86 apps to be RT compatible vs. Them try to port it Android/IOS. It won't be long before they have a comparable Mount of apps also.
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Not sure I thought I read that the Winapp store had around 10k apps.
I'm most likely incorrect as usual.
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What on earth this thread has to do with infinity?
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Don't forget, there are more windows developers worldwide than Android and IOS combined. Its far easier for exsisting developers to upgrade their legacy/x86 apps to be RT compatible vs. Them try to port it Android/IOS. It won't be long before they have a comparable Mount of apps also.
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In theory, you are right. But in theory, there are so many cellphones with android worldwide, and Apps optimised for them, you'd guess shouldn't take long for android tablet market to explode. The market is not bad at all but for example square enix just released chaos ring 1 on android where ios has already two sequales. Other example is why didn't Windows phone exploded before assuming porting apps not so diffucult.
Personally, excited with all these tablet market competition heating up as in the end we as consumer will see better product. I believe with in next few months winner of market may become obvious..
As for numbers of app, 10k at start is great, but remember android has 600k, and apple claims 275k ipad apps so relatively speaking...
The other source http://www.businessinsider.com/windows-8-apps-grew-by-500-apps-a-day-2012-10
Even at 10,000 apps, Microsoft is way behind the competition. iPad users have about 700,000 iOS apps in the App store with 250,00 of them written specifically for the iPad. There's currently over 550,000 Android apps available, with more than 20,000 being added daily, according to Appbrain.com.
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Whereas, microsoft claims past couple days (before lauch) 500 applications/day.
The android market and iTons has lots stuff...personally I believe that 60% of Android and 75% of iPad apps are truly "crapplications."
There is so much useless repetitive junk in both app markets the claims of who is app king is just fluff.
The whole freebie app thing is about getting something on your tablet that's riddled with bullsh*t ads.
If the Windows store can get a handle on how much baloney is added to the market and keep it minimal just maybe they'll have a good seller.