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had the prime. sold it,and now have the A700

Same type of performance, but this screen is freaking awesome. So love this guy. Acer used to remind me of low end crap. Not with guy. Best choice I have made in a long time.

Glad to hear your pleased with the device, with demandarin selling Asus so hard over there I'm surprised you made the switch . Hope you enjoy it as much as I do, backing up my blue rays now with bated breath!
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I currently have Prime and thinking about selling to get either this or Asus Infinity. Haven't made up my my mind yet. The biggest turn off for me with A700 is the lack of any upgrade (except screen) over A510.
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Check out the benchmarks I posted in the general section and make your own decision. The information presented there is as unbiased as it gets
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Agree. Absolutely amazing. Finally back at Android again after having some really bad experiences with the prime. Bought an iPad 3. Was impressed by the screen but missed the Android OS. Feel like I'm back home Impressive screen, nice performance. My only gripes:
Screen sensitivity : even at the highest sensitivity setting it fails sometimes to register some taps .... Guess i need to get accustomed to this and tap a little harder. Then again...
Rendering of web pages: in general web pages look awesome, but on pages with a lot of text and/or graphics you see the dynamic rendering of the fonts/graphics to a higher resolution. Sometimes you need to wait before things are readable.
But all in all, a great tablet.

I'm glad to hear you guys are enjoying it. The one concern I had was screen brightness...any issues there to report? I don't really plan to use it outside.

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I'm glad to hear you guys are enjoying it. The one concern I had was screen brightness...any issues there to report? I don't really plan to use it outside.
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The auto-brightness doesn't seem to work terribly well. Seems to put the screen "dimmer" than I personally care for.
I reset it to a static "30%" brightness or so, and it's fine for me now.
I did go out in direct sunlight (beautiful day out), to test screen readability. Cranked up to 75% and was good to go.
Hope this helps.

I am thrilled with the screen of my acer. I have always hated Acer products, and I have lots of tablets. But this tab is freaking great. Real solid build. Cant say enough about the screen. Just overall, the best Tab I have ever had...

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I am thrilled with the screen of my acer. I have always hated Acer products, and I have lots of tablets. But this tab is freaking great. Real solid build. Cant say enough about the screen. Just overall, the best Tab I have ever had...
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Good to hear. I have a 16GB Gtab 10.1 right now and my biggest gripe is the screen resolution and storage. It sounds like this is a bargain at $450.

What about responsiveness?
Lag?
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I had fears of lag too from the YouTube video that was out pre release. While I was syncing the first 12 hours there was some noticeable delay. Especially with app drawer. But 36 hrs in I can say its as snappy as I would expect it to be, especially for 450 and a 10 to 11 hour battery life. Can't beat the performance for the price
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Hows the cameras?

With a good light situation (outside for example) the cam is fine.
Inside pictures seem to be a little grainy.

I'm noticing a lot of lag using ezPDF Reader Pro. I almost considered returning it to Acer until I saw the 25% restocking fee. I've been using an iPad 1 for the last few weeks to view Army regs in PDF format, and the iPad was much quicker at page-turns, etc.
One of the YouTube reviews talked about a possible update from Acer to optimize performance. Pure speculation, I'm sure, but that would be nice. I also heard that the Andriod OS isn't optimized for quad-core processors yet.

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I'm noticing a lot of lag using ezPDF Reader Pro. I almost considered returning it to Acer until I saw the 25% restocking fee. I've been using an iPad 1 for the last few weeks to view Army regs in PDF format, and the iPad was much quicker at page-turns, etc.
One of the YouTube reviews talked about a possible update from Acer to optimize performance. Pure speculation, I'm sure, but that would be nice. I also heard that the Andriod OS isn't optimized for quad-core processors yet.
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If the reviewer got the test unit from Acer, perhaps that was said to avoid upsetting Acer and future test units? Seems the Tegra 3 gpu was not intended for such high res displays, based on benchmarks compared to the A5X. Not seeing how this can be fixed by software, unless the actual data is downsampled to lower the load on the GPU (defeats the purpose of the high res, but would people really notice?).

Was this a good buy?

I live in Canada and I picked up a 32GB TF300T with keyboard dock for $520+tax(came out to $586... I bought this from Future Shop which is basically like Best Buy in America, but anyway. I like the tablet, but I feel I paid too much for it.
What can you guys tells me about it? What are the good and bad about it? I heard it doesn't have gorilla glass, will it scratch up without a protector?
When did this thing even come out? Is it already outdated and should I get the TF700 instead?
How is the development on this thing in general? Is the bootloader locker or unlocked?
Do you think(or have a reason to believe) that it will get updated with new Android version? I'd like to own a product that's supported by the manufacturer.
I come from an LG G2X ,and while the hardware is great, the lack of manufacturer support basically froze the phone in gingerbread stage. I wouldn't want that happening to this tablet. Do you think it will at least get the version after JB?
Just spill some knowledge on this tablet and how "future proof" it is please. Thank you have a good day.

noobletsausecakebbq said:
I live in Canada and I picked up a 32GB TF300T with keyboard dock for $520+tax(came out to $586... I bought this from Future Shop which is basically like Best Buy in America, but anyway. I like the tablet, but I feel I paid too much for it.
What can you guys tells me about it? What are the good and bad about it? I heard it doesn't have gorilla glass, will it scratch up without a protector?
When did this thing even come out? Is it already outdated and should I get the TF700 instead?
How is the development on this thing in general? Is the bootloader locker or unlocked?
Do you think(or have a reason to believe) that it will get updated with new Android version? I'd like to own a product that's supported by the manufacturer.
I come from an LG G2X ,and while the hardware is great, the lack of manufacturer support basically froze the phone in gingerbread stage. I wouldn't want that happening to this tablet. Do you think it will at least get the version after JB?
Just spill some knowledge on this tablet and how "future proof" it is please. Thank you have a good day.
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- the official price in US dollar is $399 for the tablet only and $149 for the dock, so the total is $548 WITHOUT tax. i'm sorry i don't know what currency do you use in Canada, so i can't compare.
- it's basically a very good android tablet with a reasonable price, at least for me
- it came out April 22 in the US
- asus already gave us an app to unlock bootloader, keep in mind you will void your warranty if you do.
- asus WILL DEFINITELY update this tablet to Jelly Bean,

LOL, we use the Canadian dollar, now it runs at par or a little above the US dollar in terms of exchange.
I paid $519, before sales tax (we pay 13% here in Ontario!) in Canada at Best Buy for the tablet and dock bundled. I don't regret this buy for a second, this tablet is awesome and has exceeded my expectations on many levels. Enjoy!
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Could you expend on what exactly is so extraordinary about it that it has exceeded your expectations? I've been using it for 2 days and even though its nice, I'm not *THAT* impressed. Build quality is average - it already creaks. ASUS seem to have saved materials on this one. Screen is not even gorilla glass and somewhat feels like a plastic resistive display. It freezes up on apps like Chrome Browser and even Settings quite often, I didn't expect that from a QUAD CORE device. The tablet is much heavier than the dock so it feels kinda awkward using it like that cuz it feels like I have to hold the keyboard to prevent it all from falling. There's like 3 dead pixels on the screen. Not hating just stating my observations.
However, these are all minor issues that don't prevent me from enjoying the tabet. Does anyone know if JB will take advantage of Quad Core processor in its "normal tasks" like managing multitasking, switching homescreens, etc..? Or is ICS already taking advantage of the quad core?
Also why did ASUS underclock the processor? Its at 1.2 right? and stock speed of tegra 3 is 1.3ghz?

So i dont have problems with freezing or dead pixels - in can be only on some models and asus shouuld exchange them cos of this.
Im not sure but i think that when u dont do things which need more cores, transformer is using only 1 core - other are "sleeping".
When i installed setcpu it shows (without any changes) that clock is 1.5 ghz
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Also 1 more thing i wanted to mention. My auto brightness for some reason doesnt work as intended. If i put auto brighness on, the screen becomes very dim and i literally cant make it brighter without turning it off and back on again. As well, if i cover the light sensor, the screen doesnt change at all. I remember on my lg g2x auto brighness worked great, instantly changing the brightness if i put my finger on it. Is this a bug or is this how the transformer rolls?
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Also 1 more thing i wanted to mention. My auto brightness for some reason doesnt work as intended. If i put auto brighness on, the screen becomes very dim and i literally cant make it brighter without turning it off and back on again. As well, if i cover the light sensor, the screen doesnt change at all. I remember on my lg g2x auto brighness worked great, instantly changing the brightness if i put my finger on it. Is this a bug or is this how the transformer rolls?
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Oh bummer for you seems you got quite the lemon there lol I've had this tablet for a month now and I have not had a single issue I'm stock rooted with only build.prop mod. After each update or change in build.prop it might lag for 10-15 min on various tasks but that is just while it builds cache and cache is not a bad thing it is just how linux works.
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thoughts by those who upgraded from the prime?

I am seriously considering the upgrade from the Prime to the Infinity. Its going to cost me $125-150, but already have the dock so that will make things less painful.
Is the screen, slightly faster processor, and overall experience worth the jump?
Thanks for the feedback.

I've found my Infinity to be much more stable. My Prime was incredibly unstable and had very bad screen corruption and flickering on the later firmware, downgrading the firmware fixed that issue on the Prime though. The screen on the Infinity is very nice, but you probably won't notice the increased resolution except with text where it makes a very (to me) noticeable difference. The latest firmware update has seems to make multi-tasking smoother and given it a general sensation of being faster. I have a Nexus 7 and Jelly Bean makes everything very liquid smooth feeling so I have every expectation of Jelly Bean giving that same feel to the Infinity. The less tapered edge on the Infinity is actually very nice. It's more comfortable to hold and the micro sd card is completely inside the frame.
All said and done I think the Infinity is everything the Prime should have been. If you can upgrade for <$150 difference then go for it.

I did the upgrade so that I can compare my Ipad3 to the TF700T as well as wanting a functioning GPS radio. Speed has improved, stability has improved, screen has improved. All of my current applications work well. I have an issue of upgrading from a OTA but others do not so its my specific issue. I have been able to upgrade utilizing the file Asus posts on their service site for each update. As to my Ipad vs. TF700T the screens are for all practical purposes identical. Speed of all functions other than web browsing are identical (I have several applications that are the same function but for IOS or Android). Web browsing is not a tie my Ipad3 is more fluid than the TF700T. I expect that will even out with the release of Jelly Bean for the TF700T. I am waiting until that upgrade to see but if equal after Jelly Beans release then most likely my Ipad3 will be sent to Ebay to get some extra cash for the next Asus tablet release in 2013!

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I've found my Infinity to be much more stable. My Prime was incredibly unstable and had very bad screen corruption and flickering on the later firmware, downgrading the firmware fixed that issue on the Prime though. The screen on the Infinity is very nice, but you probably won't notice the increased resolution except with text where it makes a very (to me) noticeable difference. The latest firmware update has seems to make multi-tasking smoother and given it a general sensation of being faster. I have a Nexus 7 and Jelly Bean makes everything very liquid smooth feeling so I have every expectation of Jelly Bean giving that same feel to the Infinity. The less tapered edge on the Infinity is actually very nice. It's more comfortable to hold and the micro sd card is completely inside the frame.
All said and done I think the Infinity is everything the Prime should have been. If you can upgrade for <$150 difference then go for it.
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Thanks for the feedback. My prime has been rock solid, other than the app stutter / bluetooth issues that most have experienced. I normally upgrade every 18-24 months. Trying to justify the 7 month upgrade here. Thanks.

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I did the upgrade so that I can compare my Ipad3 to the TF700T as well as wanting a functioning GPS radio. Speed has improved, stability has improved, screen has improved. All of my current applications work well. I have an issue of upgrading from a OTA but others do not so its my specific issue. I have been able to upgrade utilizing the file Asus posts on their service site for each update. As to my Ipad vs. TF700T the screens are for all practical purposes identical. Speed of all functions other than web browsing are identical (I have several applications that are the same function but for IOS or Android). Web browsing is not a tie my Ipad3 is more fluid than the TF700T. I expect that will even out with the release of Jelly Bean for the TF700T. I am waiting until that upgrade to see but if equal after Jelly Beans release then most likely my Ipad3 will be sent to Ebay to get some extra cash for the next Asus tablet release in 2013!
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Glad to here the positive experience when compared to the ipad.

I too upgraded for EUR 105,- and it's worth every cent!
The screen is to much better and sharper. Reading forums in portrait mode is no problem now. On the prime it often got to crappy to read and I had to zoom in.
Furthermore it feels faster and it's definitely more stable.Finally no more Wifi issues and SD card won't eject anymore.
Also HDMI port is better designed.
Just upgrade

stunya said:
I am seriously considering the upgrade from the Prime to the Infinity. Its going to cost me $125-150, but already have the dock so that will make things less painful.
Is the screen, slightly faster processor, and overall experience worth the jump?
Thanks for the feedback.
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I upgraded and received my Infinity yesterday. Overall, it is a much nicer tablet. I really think this is what the prime should have been when it launched. I have much better wifi and GPS reception, and the screen is much nicer to look at. Another thing that most people aren't mentioning is that the SD card actually fits in the tablet now!
That being said, I'm still having problems (even after the .26 update) running ShadowGun. The game works fine it I've just rebooted the tablet, but after several applications have been launched, I can't get past the first shot or two before the game freezes. You can still hear the game playing in the background, but the screen bounces back and forth between 2 frames. Maybe someone has a fix?
Anyway, yes, I am happy coming from the Prime.

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I upgraded and received my Infinity yesterday. Overall, it is a much nicer tablet. I really think this is what the prime should have been when it launched. I have much better wifi and GPS reception, and the screen is much nicer to look at. Another thing that most people aren't mentioning is that the SD card actually fits in the tablet now!
That being said, I'm still having problems (even after the .26 update) running ShadowGun. The game works fine it I've just rebooted the tablet, but after several applications have been launched, I can't get past the first shot or two before the game freezes. You can still hear the game playing in the background, but the screen bounces back and forth between 2 frames. Maybe someone has a fix?
Anyway, yes, I am happy coming from the Prime.
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I never owned a Prime (cancelled pre-order) so can't compare the two but from all the negative reports from the users, I can definitely say that the 700 is the most worthy successor to the 101. This is my gaming tablet and with just a few exceptions will be loaded with nothing but Tegra 3 games and full HD apps. The speed and resolution of the 700 is just right for 1080p movies, it plays the streamed .mkv files like it was coming from the sdcard! So smooth and lag free.
No way the Prime's 1280x800 can match the 700's display, no contest there but of course there will be an additional power drain to contend with so power regulation is a must.

Glad I switched
I exchanged and updated my 201 for 700 this week. Other than having an issue doing and OTA update (which is a serial number issue again with ASUS! I was able to update manually with no problem) I am very happy I did so. In the last 48 hours I have not had any issues, which I always did with prime. I use mine for work and play although I do not really play intense games on the device. WIFI is tons better and GPS is rock solid. I did compare my screen with my daughters ipad 3 and even she was impressed with the quality. She is an apple fanatic but even she sees where being locked down in the apple OS world has its limitations as compared to android. Glad she learned something in college!

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I exchanged and updated my 201 for 700 this week. Other than having an issue doing and OTA update (which is a serial number issue again with ASUS! I was able to update manually with no problem) I am very happy I did so. In the last 48 hours I have not had any issues, which I always did with prime. I use mine for work and play although I do not really play intense games on the device. WIFI is tons better and GPS is rock solid. I did compare my screen with my daughters ipad 3 and even she was impressed with the quality. She is an apple fanatic but even she sees where being locked down in the apple OS world has its limitations as compared to android. Glad she learned something in college!
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good deal. first time i wish i bought something from BB...could have upgraded for free. thanks for the feedback.

well thanks, thats all the convincing i needed. ordered an infinity about 20 mins ago.
Thanks all!! I look forward to joining the group!!
PS-anyone need a very lightly used prime? HA!

I finally pulled the trigger and sold my Prime for the Infinity on Craigslist today. Went to Best Buy hoping to find tf700 with no luck. Fortunately for me the employee I was speaking to was very friendly and found one available at one of the other bb locations 23 miles away! Though a display model I still wanted it. I purchased it ahead of time and drove 23 miles to pick it up. When I got there. They took it off the display and showed me the scratch marks on the back plate and the slab of adhesive they used to keep the tablet connected that they couldn't peel away. Then I noticed that the label says tf201!!!! Mother [email protected]#ker!! The employee that said that they had one available mistakenly thought that that was the tf700 because it was so similar!!! The employee explained it to me and apologized. I said I drove for 45 mins to get here and was assured that you guys had the tf700!!! I was very upset. The guy was scared and looked around... finally he found one in the store!!! It was reserved for someone else that paid online. I ended up with a new tf700 and not a display model!!! Lol Apparently the person that ordered online had cancelled his order after checking the system and I was very fortunate to come out of BB with a brand new tf700!! So far loving the new toy.
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Once my Infinity arrives, giving my Prime to a close family member, rooted with Androwook and chock full of my paid apps.
Thanks for the thread, sounds like it'll be a redeeming (mostly?) upgrade! Now for those roms...
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I exchanged my C1 Prime at Best Buy which GPS was dead when I bought it and ended up with a C7 Infinity. Wifi/BT/GPS were great, however vibration, haptic feedback was dead out of the box. Attempted trying to toggle the settings but still nothing on power up/down, etc. It also couldn't find the OTA when I tried to update and I had to install .26 from my microsd which I take it is this issue here.
Took it back yesterday. Pretty bummed since my major issue with 201 was wifi/BT problems using my headset and music/netflix but it seemed good on the 700. Overall it seemed better than the Prime but that's not saying much .. Asus still has some pretty bad QC in my opinion

I've had my Infinity for a week now since I got my prime refunded. To echo a previous comment in this thread, this is what the prime should have been and what I expected it to be. Everything just works and the screen is absolutely beautiful. My prime never got a GPS lock, and running Bluetooth to my Thunderbolt for Tablet Talk would make my internet slow so an unusable crawl on the Prime. Here on the infinity I can stream music while browsing the web or XDA and texting. Used it successfully a few times for navigation while tethered; got a GPS lock nearly as fast as my phone locks. Plus it fits more snugly in my 201 dock than my Prime did. My only gripe is that the battery has not been quite as epic as my Prime, but it has been more than sufficient for daily use.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

stunya said:
well thanks, thats all the convincing i needed. ordered an infinity about 20 mins ago.
Thanks all!! I look forward to joining the group!!
PS-anyone need a very lightly used prime? HA!
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I'm sure you're already aware, but if not...that if you purchased your Prime tablet from Best Buy you can actually exchange it for an Infinity by way of One year manufacturer warranty.

jjdevega said:
I finally pulled the trigger and sold my Prime for the Infinity on Craigslist today. Went to Best Buy hoping to find tf700 with no luck. Fortunately for me the employee I was speaking to was very friendly and found one available at one of the other bb locations 23 miles away! Though a display model I still wanted it. I purchased it ahead of time and drove 23 miles to pick it up. When I got there. They took it off the display and showed me the scratch marks on the back plate and the slab of adhesive they used to keep the tablet connected that they couldn't peel away. Then I noticed that the label says tf201!!!! Mother [email protected]#ker!! The employee that said that they had one available mistakenly thought that that was the tf700 because it was so similar!!! The employee explained it to me and apologized. I said I drove for 45 mins to get here and was assured that you guys had the tf700!!! I was very upset. The guy was scared and looked around... finally he found one in the store!!! It was reserved for someone else that paid online. I ended up with a new tf700 and not a display model!!! Lol Apparently the person that ordered online had cancelled his order after checking the system and I was very fortunate to come out of BB with a brand new tf700!! So far loving the new toy.
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How is internet browsing faster? Thats my problem with the prime sluggish.

LOVE IT
This is what I was expecting when I bought Prime. GPS and Wi-Fi work great. Screen crisp and clear. Camera takes really good pics. Had 2 primes, both had terrible picture quality. Gone into settings a few times and did update check, won't show one. No biggie, I'll d-load and push. Rooted fine.
Only complaint is, battery doesn't last as long as primes did.
Overall, very pleased. Especially since I had best buy damage warranty and they gave me Infinity free.

This is what the prime should have been! WFI,GPS, works. Had it for 24hrs, so far so good

I never really had problems with my prime (except bad GPS and pixels), but I exchanged it anyways for an infinity. I have to say the infinity is really what the prime should have been, the screen resolution is amazing, it's fast, GPS works and I even notice better wifi connections. I had to root the prime and tweak the hell out of it to get it to perform anywhere near what the infinity does right out of the box. Oh and its the first asus tablet I've had the does not have dead pixels.

Do you think the tegra 3 is not capable for FHD Resolution?

I think the tf700's tegra3 even if it's clocked at 1.6ghz is struggling with its FHD's resolution. The lag is so much noticeable when browsing and scrolling the screen. Do you think there is still a solution to this lagginess on the next update ? The tf300 is still having some performance issue even after the JB update so im kinda skeptical if it will make the device faster. I think Asus shouldn't have released this tablet with FHD until the tegra4 comes out, on paper the tegra is an awesome SOC with its quad core + 1 and 12 core GPU but numbers doesnt translate to a faster device. What do you guys think?

Think that its simply a software problem. All the hiccups you see happen across all android tabs running ICS. Once JB gets here AND is optimized, we will be fine. I stress the whole optimization part because it always takes time and more updates after something as big as JB to get all the kinks out.
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The lag is mostly from the io issues. I get smooth scrolling usually.
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As you may see in my signature that i owned both device so i love them both and i cant live without this 2 device but i was saddened when i saw this one post on the other forum see and judge for yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30979075&postcount=296
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So i did some further research why the nexus 7 is slightly faster than our tf700 then i came across this review about i/o nand flash . Although the nexus 7 is slightly faster than our infinity its is still rather slow. That comes to my conclusion that the i/o issues plaguing the asus tablets cannot be improved due to a slower components.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6073/the-google-nexus-7-review/6
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Good post
The thing "I" (or "me" if you will) notice is..............
Using a paid app store utility (rooted) I have forced all the Tegras cores "on" to max clock.
I'm thinking the GPU is now working harder to render because the CPU is really pumping.
Of course this just eats battery time, yet I don't care because I'm plugged in 99% of the time.
Lately the browsers I've been battling with in the past seem to have been not shutting me out.
Also when scrolling the screen I haven't seen any stuttering...been pretty happy about this.
Being constantly tethered to the AC brick is a bumout however.

Yeah, the random read/write on these SSD drives is terrible along with the write/read in benchmarks. The ram I don't think really matters as much, but Asus dropped the ball on the SSD. SSD problems can be hidden with an OS that manages the ram really well though (as long as you always have more ram avaialble than being used).
The wireless radio really does seem to be a huge power hog and have mediocre reception. I lose bars in places my ipad gets full reception.
Samsung really benefits from being a premier LCD, Solid-State-Chip, and now CPU manufacturer. The Exnyos is also an impressive CPU in terms of power/battery life (versus Tegra). Samsung is the only one with commercially avaialble 30 nm Ram chips (which are cheap and overclock better than any gaming ram on the market) and their 830 SSD drives are the very best out there.
I think the problem with Tegra is that battery life is rather overwhelming and I feel that they rushed to market in order to be the first quad-core CPU. The architecture seems to have problems with battery life. The Tegra 3 was amazing when the original Transformer PRime was released but with recent CPU's like the Qualcomm S4 Dragon beating it in battery life and Exnyos Quad-core doing the same, it has a tough job.
However, raw tablet power is a means not an end. I almost always use power-saving while not docked (and will underclock once jellybean comes out and there is a good rom for it). The main problem right now is really the awful I/O. Asus can make most of the problem disappear by utilizing the ram better to create the illusion of smoothness.
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I/O in our infinity is even worse than the prime....about 1/4 of the prime....this really disappointed me....

Hmm, I've been using the TF700 since it came out and I just don't see what the big deal is - it runs great for me! I keep seeing all of the specs compared, etc, but at the end of the day, I think that the TF700 runs pretty well. Most of the time during normal use, the device is not being stressed to the point where these "flaws" are apparent. Is it going to slow down while installing 10 apps - sure - but who cares? How often do you have 10 apps installing?
The games I've used run great and look *awesome*. Text is super clear - contrast is simply amazing, etc.
Now, QC is certainly an issue for Asus - I can't deny that one! I just hope I'm still so happy with the device 6 months or a year from now... But for now, I'd take a TF700 over a Samsung Note any day, even knowing of the "issues" with the TF700. The Note is simply not a a good fit for what I want, regardless of how well it's build inside (or out).
I could care less about the specs - as long as the device does what I want and does it well (which so far, the TF700 does). I can only imagine that the software will get better over time as well, making the experience even better.
But again, it all depends what you want/need in a device. I have *zero* use for a Spen for my usage habits.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

jtrosky said:
Hmm, I've been using the TF700 since it came out and I just don't see what the big deal is - it runs great for me! I keep seeing all of the specs compared, etc, but at the end of the day, I think that the TF700 runs pretty well. Most of the time during normal use, the device is not being stressed to the point where these "flaws" are apparent. Is it going to slow down while installing 10 apps - sure - but who cares? How often do you have 10 apps installing?
The games I've used run great and look *awesome*. Text is super clear - contrast is simply amazing, etc.
Now, QC is certainly an issue for Asus - I can't deny that one! I just hope I'm still so happy with the device 6 months or a year from now... But for now, I'd take a TF700 over a Samsung Note any day, even knowing of the "issues" with the TF700. The Note is simply not a a good fit for what I want, regardless of how well it's build inside (or out).
I could care less about the specs - as long as the device does what I want and does it well (which so far, the TF700 does). I can only imagine that the software will get better over time as well, making the experience even better.
But again, it all depends what you want/need in a device. I have *zero* use for a Spen for my usage habits.
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Lots of people complain about IO and other problems, things are slow to respond, etc.
It all comes down to knowing your device. Yes if its reading or writing it will be slow to do other things. If your doing mainly one thing at a time, or using optimized apps, its awesome!
Yes, stock browser sucks. use dolphin or boat. 90% of your problems solved right there. Kill / delete / remove stock bloat that kills your ram and CPU, there goes another chunk of the problem. Know your tablet, streamline what you can, dont wait for Asus to fix the problem, be proactive in making sure everything is running smooth.

So the i/o problem is simply because of the slow nand chip then why are some people saying that we just dont have a properly compiled firmware. So this is basically a dead end for our tablet as this is a hardware issue and cant be fixed by just slapping a JB . That explain why the tf300 is still slow after the update.

Running off of a class 10 microsd, using bsplayer, I can play back a ~10GB 1080p MKV without issue...

I think nobody really knows if hardware or software. Many are hoping it to be software so can be fixed. Certainly not ics or jb issue as other tabs with ics is as stable as ipad.
If true though one statement gives a little hope (hence i am still checking this forum) is someone claimed with custom rom zeus he got rl benchmark down to 20's, which is what galaxy note 10 runs and never seen anr message. So maybe really software.

HoushaSen said:
I think nobody really knows if hardware or software. Many are hoping it to be software so can be fixed. Certainly not ics or jb issue as other tabs with ics is as stable as ipad.
If true though one statement gives a little hope (hence i am still checking this forum) is someone claimed with custom rom zeus he got rl benchmark down to 20's, which is what galaxy note 10 runs and never seen anr message. So maybe really software.
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I sure hope so

My Infinity is lag free. I even downloaded 10 apps at once, as as a previous poster suggested it caused lag. I had ZERO lag! I am issue free here guys. So I am a verklempt, when I see some say they have problems with their units.

HoushaSen said:
I think nobody really knows if hardware or software. Many are hoping it to be software so can be fixed. Certainly not ics or jb issue as other tabs with ics is as stable as ipad.
If true though one statement gives a little hope (hence i am still checking this forum) is someone claimed with custom rom zeus he got rl benchmark down to 20's, which is what galaxy note 10 runs and never seen anr message. So maybe really software.
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I'm the one, on the Zeus v3 my RL benchmark was 22 overall and on the new Zeus v4 I got RL benchmarch down to 19 overall. Random writes is still slow but SQL lite is fantastic. So I do think software is the key to getting the tablet performance you were hoping for. We have just begun to scratch the surface with this beast.

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I'm the one, on the Zeus v3 my RL benchmark was 22 overall and on the new Zeus v4 I got RL benchmarch down to 19 overall. Random writes is still slow but SQL lite is fantastic. So I do think software is the key to getting the tablet performance you were hoping for. We have just begun to scratch the surface with this beast.
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Jetrosky also showed his result being 20 in balance mode. Asus should simply use Zeus as their next firmware or hire Zeus. But yes with thus I believe it's not hardware but software. Asus needs better programmer.

Tf700 w/Cleanmod +OC'd vs Nexus 10

As title says, which one would you prefer. I'm on 4.1.1 so I won't be able to flash nvflash with my asus infinity. How big is the risk for me to unlock then install cleanrom?

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As title says, which one would you prefer. I'm on 4.1.1 so I won't be able to flash nvflash with my asus infinity. How big is the risk for me to unlock then install cleanrom?
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If you do it right, no risk really, (maybe .1%, but this come with anything). I have been testing like uninstall/reinstall/reformat/switching internal memory to sdcard/downgrade/upgrade/incremental upgrade/flashing kernels about at least 20 times and mine is running top notch.

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If you do it right, no risk really, (maybe .1%, but this come with anything). I have been testing like uninstall/reinstall/reformat/switching internal memory to sdcard/downgrade/upgrade/incremental upgrade/flashing kernels about at least 20 times and mine is running top notch.
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and you don't have nvflash? I'm just debating whether or not to unlock it, because once I do I can't really sell it to get the nexus 10. I feel like the nexus 10 will have more dev support over the years...however I will stick with the tf700 if it performs better than the n10 with cleanmod and with an overclock

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How big is the risk for me to unlock then install cleanrom?
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I agree it's low or no risk...
Although don't do it just because.
If you really are trying to talk yourself into a Nexus then it might be better to leave the TFI as is.
Are you happy overall with the TF700T?
Coming from the ground up

Thats OK said:
I agree it's low or no risk...
Although don't do it just because.
If you really are trying to talk yourself into a Nexus then it might be better to leave the TFI as is.
Are you happy overall with the TF700T?
Coming from the ground up
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it's not as smooth as I had hoped it to be but I heard cleanmod fixes this.

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it's not as smooth as I had hoped it to be but I heard cleanmod fixes this.
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Yes, CleanRom and Clemsyn and data2sd really make this thing worth more than $500. I'm very happy with it. When I first purchased the device, my wife and kids refused to use it due to performance and broswer, now they're fighting to grab it.

I am personally running clean and oc and it is awesome, but hard to compare to something that no one has in their hands. If you are unsure just wait. check out the 10 then go from there. my decision to unlock was based on the external sd and dock. Nexus will have options too , but I decided to hang on to my 700 and getting my kids nexus 7's for xmas so I will have some nexus fun too...

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it's not as smooth as I had hoped it to be but I heard cleanmod fixes this.
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Yep,
I have to say with CleanROM and the newest Clemsyn's I no longer consider my TFI a clunker...

The biggest risk is that any future hardware failure will be very expensive for you (if you want a working TF700 back).

I'm on paranoid Android with Clemsyn's CM10 based kernel. No data to sd and I love it! Super fast. My tablet feels rock solid. I don't understand why some complain about build quality. I love the slim sexy look. Can't wait to get my micro sd to try data to sd. Hearing how awesome it is will make this thing crazy good. I wouldn't own a tablet or phone I couldn't hack on. I love development and it's quickly turned into my favorite hobby the past couple years
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i dont like mine at all and want a nexus 10. i shoudlnt have to unlock void this and the other i just want something that works. i do a lot of flashing on my htx one x to get it where it "should be" while all my friends just buy their ipad 4 and have zero things to do on them, just use them as intented. i stick to android because i need it to do a load more than iOS can give me but damn sometimes i wish google would just make a stable version. oh wait. its called a nexus 10. lol and theres no luck in selling these things. who knows about a transformer infinity ? resale value is low >_>

This is Engadget's verdict about the Nexus 10:
"At under $400, the Nexus 10 is a compelling package, but despite that display it can't quite muster best-in-class performances across the charts. In fact, other than a relative lack of resolution (1,920 x 1,200 vs. this guy's 2,560 x 1,600) the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 is, we think, an overall better package. It's thinner, lighter, faster, has a much better camera, offers better battery life (particularly if you opt for the keyboard dock) and, frankly, we'd take the brightness and contrast of that 600 nit, Super IPS+ panel over this one with its extra pixels.
What does ASUS's offering lack? Well, Android 4.2 for one thing, but as we've shown above you're just an aftermarket keyboard app away from getting the best that has to offer right now. And, the Nexus 10 does have a lower starting price of $399 for a 16GB model. The cheapest we were able to find the TF700 currently is $477 -- but that's for 32GB, so it's actually $20 cheaper than the 32GB Nexus 10. Plus, the TF700 offers expandable storage.
The Nexus 7 impressed us on nearly every front. What few flaws there were we more than forgave thanks to its bargain-basement price. At $400 to $500, the Nexus 10 is actually on par with many other 10-inch Android competitors -- even a little more expensive than some -- and, with average performance in most areas and sub-par battery life, it's relying on that incredibly high resolution and fresh Android build to set it apart. Sadly, neither is enough to distance this tablet from the competition.
The resolution is indeed quite nice but in many ways, the Super IPS+ panel on the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 is even nicer, and other than that new keyboard there's nothing much in Android 4.2 to get excited about right now. Of course, the true beauty of the Nexus line is that when 4.3 rolls around this slate will be the first to get it, and that is certainly worth something. But is it worth enough to make up for this tablet's other shortcomings?"
So go and buy a Nexus 10 and be happy
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i dont like mine at all and want a nexus 10. i shoudlnt have to unlock void this and the other i just want something that works. i do a lot of flashing on my htx one x to get it where it "should be" while all my friends just buy their ipad 4 and have zero things to do on them, just use them as intented. i stick to android because i need it to do a load more than iOS can give me but damn sometimes i wish google would just make a stable version. oh wait. its called a nexus 10. lol and theres no luck in selling these things. who knows about a transformer infinity ? resale value is low >_>
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i shoudlnt have to unlock void this and the other i just want something that works.
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First, it sounds like the OP already has a TF700. For someone that's going to have to take a loss to get a N10 the question of which to get is different than someone just looking to buy a tablet. It also depends on what OP does with his tablet. The one place where the N10 will blow anything else out there away is gaming. Teg3 is a fifteen month old 40nm A9 chip and in the TF700 it's running at its maximum resolution output. The Mali in the N10 has 2/3 more memory bandwidth and that's huge. For consumption, browsing, and utility type stuff it doesn't make sense to go from a TF700 to a N10.
For someone looking for a new tablet unless they need the keyboard, extended battery life, Super IPS display, and expandable storage it makes no sense to buy a TF700 over a N10. The N10's designed by Google and built by Samsung so it will run well out of the box, be built well, have great service and support, and be updated regularly well in to the future. And it costs less too.
And 95% of people buying a tablet don't know what a bootloader is so what they get out of the box is what they're going to have to live with. To get competitive performance out of the TF700 you guys on this forum have done some of the best work I've seen on XDA. But at the end of the day your $499 tablet costs $649 ($499+$100 SquareTrade for voiding warranty+$50 Class 10 SD card for data2SD to fix read/write issues) which is almost the same price as the most expensive tablet available: the 64GB iPad. And even after that it doesn't have 5GHz dual-channel Wi-Fi, BT4.0, Glonass-support, NFC, and other more modern features. So for a non-XDA audience not needing or wanting the TF700's extra features they'll have a far better experience with a stock N10.
Without unlocking, rooting, and risking file corruption the TF700's performance isn't really competitive. Here's a stock TF700 on the latest JB update vs. a stock Note 10.1 on yesterday's JB release. I can't imagine the N10 in final shippable form on pure 4.2 won't at least match the Note's performance. And if someone applied the same SQL tweaks and other things you've guys have had to do to the Note 10.1 the vast difference in stock performance would carry through when looking at them tweaked vs. tweaked. The difference being no one's done it because it's not necessary. And you know the dev community for the N10 will be huge and they'll be able to get a lot more out of the N10 matching or exceeding your gains over stock.
So which to pick depends on whether someone's willing to heavily modify their device to make it perform well, whether more modern features matter, how big a deal the non-expandable storage is on the N10, and how important Asus' unique features are. There’s really no one-size-fits-all answer if you’re being objective.

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For someone looking for a new tablet unless they need the keyboard, extended battery life, Super IPS display, removable storage it makes no sense to buy a TF700 over a N10.
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^^^^This^^^^^
It basically boils down to what features will end out being most important to you in your day to day use.
I too seroiusly considered ditching the TF700 for the N10 but when I weighed out the benifits of the N10 compared to what I would be sacrifing I just could not get myself to pull the trigger.
I can not count the amount of times I have had to turn on that super ips switch and slide it to Max. The benifit of the N10's higher resolution and faster processor would be moot in this situation if I cant veiw the display.

I myself am considering switching to a GNote 10.1 from my t700. Gaming and just the I/o in general seems more smooth on the note. Just sucks its such an expensive tablet for what you get.
I am worried about unlocking, because even with a square trade warranty once your manufacture warranty is void, so I'd your squaretrade. Also your square trade does not go into effect until the year on your regular warranty...so if your unlocked I guess you better hope you don't have an issue for the first year
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Nice read. OP wondering what you've decided with. I'm stuck too. Love the form factor of the t700 with keyboard but I feel its very outdated processor. N10 is a beast when it comes to gaming. Butter smooth.
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aznmode said:
Nice read. OP wondering what you've decided with. I'm stuck too. Love the form factor of the t700 with keyboard but I feel its very outdated processor. N10 is a beast when it comes to gaming. Butter smooth.
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I am on the fence as well and I am an android noob with a stock TF700 plus dock still returnable at BB.
I have seen you here and in the Nexus 10 forum and was wondering if you bought one. I mostly browse and watch movies, so not sure if the TF700 is going to be to much for a starter noob like me. BarryH has some great points.
I chose Android to try and get away for all the proprietary issues with the Apple brand... I feel the walls closing in on that idea!
I would at least like to root and have some say over MY tablet and deny some of these insane permissions that are being asked.

EraVulgaris said:
I am on the fence as well and I am an android noob with a stock TF700 plus dock still returnable at BB.
I have seen you here and in the Nexus 10 forum and was wondering if you bought one. I mostly browse and watch movies, so not sure if the TF700 is going to be to much for a starter noob like me. BarryH has some great points.
I chose Android to try and get away for all the proprietary issues with the Apple brand... I feel the walls closing in on that idea!
I would at least like to root and have some say over MY tablet and deny some of these insane permissions that are being asked.
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I have both. I like the nexus 10 for gaming and it just works. Everything is smooth. Tf700 is not as smooth and do lag from time to time but the keyboard dock is its selling point IMO. For browsing and watching movies the tf700 is good.
Also to add I just unlocked and running cleanrom inheritance with clemsey kernel and it still lags here and there.
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I finally unlocked and with cleanrom inheritance along with clemsey kernel 1.8ghz with 650 gpu. IMO n10 is still smoother and faster. Not to say the tf700 didn't improve but I do still see frame rate drop often and games are smoother but not butter smooth like the n10. The n10 gpu is just a beast.
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