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Hello,
I am about to buy a Xoom, the Prime has too many problems for now.
I was watching a video on browsing the web on a Prime (ICS) and could not see any differences with the Xoom running ICS too.
Here is the video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdCqKSG1x6s
So here is a question for the actual Xoom (with ICS) owners : what do you think about this video, does the Xoom perform the same when browsing the web ?
Thanks !
I think that with ics xoom has be come a new talet, but that is only what ive heard and read i have not tried ics myself personally
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I think tablets are becoming like PC's. You don't need the newest core i7 to run most trivial tasks on windows 7 lag free.
You don't need the prime to have a smooth internet experience, use 99.9% of the apps on the market, or in general use ICS smoothly. Do you want the IPS screen + the 1080p support? If so then buy the prime if you desire those things.
I think you are all right. To do web browsing, the Tegra 3 does not seem to perform better than the Tegra 2 (at least, this is what I can see when checking the youtube videos, I couldn't test for real as the Prime WIFI problem nether let me try it in a computer shop !), and that's a surprise as the 5th core of the Tegra 3 was told to be increasing the web browsing experience.
I will not be playing with my tablet, not displaying 1080p videos (not even 720p), if I watch videos they will be small size ones.
All I want to do is browsing the web, displaying photos, modifying Excel / Word files, and in rare case using the tab as a GPS.
But I'm a bit disapointed by ICS : even with a Tegra 3, web browsing is not as smooth as on an ipad.
I don't want to talk about IOS / Android differences, we all know them (I don't want to buy an iPad, I prefer using Android), but I need something perfectly smooth and for now ICS still isn't. I know that Android applications may not be smooth because a lot of them are developped with no Google programming rules respects (so many apps are laggy...) but I was expecting ICS to have all the basic applications such as the web browser to be so well optimised that they could be as smooth as on the ipad.
If anyone else could give me its opinion on how browsing the web does perform on the Xoom compared to the Prime, I would be happy ...
Thanks !
Browsing with ICS on my Xoom is better than HC. Still not totally smooth, though, to be honest which dissapoints me. I just bought a half-priced Lenovo K1 for the grandkids, and it felt just a bit smoother on HC than Xoom on ICS.
But the Xoom works great with ICS, has strong GPS and WiFi (better than Prime and K1), and half the price of the very flawed Prime. Can't imagine why anyone would buy a Prime given all its problems, and it's going to be obsoleted soon anyway.
Not trying to stir up stuff - I almost bought a Prime, and am very glad that I missed Amazon's first pre-order.
dizzy33 said:
If anyone else could give me its opinion on how browsing the web does perform on the Xoom compared to the Prime, I would be happy ...
Thanks !
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I owned a prime and switched to the xoom. I like the Xoom much better because everything works. I had issues browsing with the prime because of the terrible wifi. The hardware in the prime is bad and the connection is unreliable. Aside from the wifi issues, the browsing experience would be very comparable. The prime is not enjoy faster browsing the web. So, the fact that it suffers from wifi connection issues made the choice a no-brainer for me. I grabbed a xoom and I have no regrets. I also saved $100.
skinien said:
I owned a prime and switched to the xoom. I like the Xoom much better because everything works. I had issues browsing with the prime because of the terrible wifi. The hardware in the prime is bad and the connection is unreliable. Aside from the wifi issues, the browsing experience would be very comparable. The prime is not enjoy faster browsing the web. So, the fact that it suffers from wifi connection issues made the choice a no-brainer for me. I grabbed a xoom and I have no regrets. I also saved $100.
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Same situation. I had tried two Prime before returing it for the Xoom. Same as you I had saved well over $100 and All of my hardware is working as it should.
dizzy33 said:
Hello,
I am about to buy a Xoom, the Prime has too many problems for now.
I was watching a video on browsing the web on a Prime (ICS) and could not see any differences with the Xoom running ICS too.
Here is the video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdCqKSG1x6s
So here is a question for the actual Xoom (with ICS) owners : what do you think about this video, does the Xoom perform the same when browsing the web ?
Thanks !
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I own both the Xoom and the Prime... not really comparable... the Prime is much faster / smoother and has a better screen.
Don't get me wrong the Xoom is still very nice.. but there is a reason I handed my wife the Xoom and got a Prime for myself
Thanks to all of you. I made a choice : I am now a Xoom owner since a few hours ...
For now I am a bit disapointed as I live in France and there we don't have the possibility to update to ICS yet ... 3.2.1 is quite laggy and slow, I don't like it a lot. But I do really like the Xoom physical design, excellent (just a bit heavy but that's OK).
Just root it and flash stock ICS (stacre) or EOS nightly build. You won't regret it.
just returned my prime because of light bleed, no gps and bad wifi.
Considering the xoom as well, because of the price. Then perhaps upgrade later this year.
How is the battery of the xoom (with ICS) compared to the Prime? almost the same?
Only two things im concerned about is screen quality and battery. Well I know the Primes screen is much better, but is the Xooms screen bad?
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Only two things im concerned about is screen quality and battery. Well I know the Primes screen is much better, but is the Xooms screen bad?
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Its not bad, its just a standard LCD screen.
When compared to an IPS screen on a transformer, xyboard, iPad, or nook tablet you can really see the difference and I'll admit, I get somewhat jealous of those screens.
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Only two things im concerned about is screen quality and battery. Well I know the Primes screen is much better, but is the Xooms screen bad?
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why don't you just try the xoom in a shop? Battery is really fine, should be really hard to drain it in less than a day...
about the display: the contrast is a little low, everything else is okay. If you don't place it right next to a device with a better screen, you won't notice it, at least I don't.
kunddizzle said:
just returned my prime because of light bleed, no gps and bad wifi.
Considering the xoom as well, because of the price. Then perhaps upgrade later this year.
How is the battery of the xoom (with ICS) compared to the Prime? almost the same?
Only two things im concerned about is screen quality and battery. Well I know the Primes screen is much better, but is the Xooms screen bad?
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Haven't tried a Prime but the Xoom has really surprised me in a positive way, especially since ICS custom roms became available. It really is a great device - a tad on the heavy side but unless you're walking around with it all the time you'll hardly notice. Long lasting battery and screen is good in full daylight and in complete darkness.
Så bare tag en Xoom
im gonna give Prime another try, if I can get a replacement within a few days.
only thing im concerned about going for Xoom is the screen now.
Look at this comparison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aEMEtxB4q2M#t=166s
Xooms screen is NOT good (colorwise)! Especially not when I have the Galaxy S2 with AMOLED aswell.
Thx for input
I went for the Xoom!
Im happy. The Prime is of course a better tablet if everything worked from the start, but when Im spending what is like 900 us dollars on a tablet (Danish taxes included = highest in the world) it has to REALLY awesome and flawless..
The xoom i got for like 300 us dollars (2nd hand), almost as new, really surpriced me. With ICS, and overclocked to 1.2-14 on stock voltage, its really nice!
I can live with the screen quality. But my next tablet will have an OLED screen, so I'm guessing I will look into Samsung later this year.
My advice is. Go for the Xoom if you can find it cheap, and money for value is an issue. Go for the Prime if you dont care about money and is willing to RMA it alot if youre not lucky.
I am seriously considering the upgrade from the Prime to the Infinity. Its going to cost me $125-150, but already have the dock so that will make things less painful.
Is the screen, slightly faster processor, and overall experience worth the jump?
Thanks for the feedback.
I've found my Infinity to be much more stable. My Prime was incredibly unstable and had very bad screen corruption and flickering on the later firmware, downgrading the firmware fixed that issue on the Prime though. The screen on the Infinity is very nice, but you probably won't notice the increased resolution except with text where it makes a very (to me) noticeable difference. The latest firmware update has seems to make multi-tasking smoother and given it a general sensation of being faster. I have a Nexus 7 and Jelly Bean makes everything very liquid smooth feeling so I have every expectation of Jelly Bean giving that same feel to the Infinity. The less tapered edge on the Infinity is actually very nice. It's more comfortable to hold and the micro sd card is completely inside the frame.
All said and done I think the Infinity is everything the Prime should have been. If you can upgrade for <$150 difference then go for it.
I did the upgrade so that I can compare my Ipad3 to the TF700T as well as wanting a functioning GPS radio. Speed has improved, stability has improved, screen has improved. All of my current applications work well. I have an issue of upgrading from a OTA but others do not so its my specific issue. I have been able to upgrade utilizing the file Asus posts on their service site for each update. As to my Ipad vs. TF700T the screens are for all practical purposes identical. Speed of all functions other than web browsing are identical (I have several applications that are the same function but for IOS or Android). Web browsing is not a tie my Ipad3 is more fluid than the TF700T. I expect that will even out with the release of Jelly Bean for the TF700T. I am waiting until that upgrade to see but if equal after Jelly Beans release then most likely my Ipad3 will be sent to Ebay to get some extra cash for the next Asus tablet release in 2013!
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I've found my Infinity to be much more stable. My Prime was incredibly unstable and had very bad screen corruption and flickering on the later firmware, downgrading the firmware fixed that issue on the Prime though. The screen on the Infinity is very nice, but you probably won't notice the increased resolution except with text where it makes a very (to me) noticeable difference. The latest firmware update has seems to make multi-tasking smoother and given it a general sensation of being faster. I have a Nexus 7 and Jelly Bean makes everything very liquid smooth feeling so I have every expectation of Jelly Bean giving that same feel to the Infinity. The less tapered edge on the Infinity is actually very nice. It's more comfortable to hold and the micro sd card is completely inside the frame.
All said and done I think the Infinity is everything the Prime should have been. If you can upgrade for <$150 difference then go for it.
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Thanks for the feedback. My prime has been rock solid, other than the app stutter / bluetooth issues that most have experienced. I normally upgrade every 18-24 months. Trying to justify the 7 month upgrade here. Thanks.
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I did the upgrade so that I can compare my Ipad3 to the TF700T as well as wanting a functioning GPS radio. Speed has improved, stability has improved, screen has improved. All of my current applications work well. I have an issue of upgrading from a OTA but others do not so its my specific issue. I have been able to upgrade utilizing the file Asus posts on their service site for each update. As to my Ipad vs. TF700T the screens are for all practical purposes identical. Speed of all functions other than web browsing are identical (I have several applications that are the same function but for IOS or Android). Web browsing is not a tie my Ipad3 is more fluid than the TF700T. I expect that will even out with the release of Jelly Bean for the TF700T. I am waiting until that upgrade to see but if equal after Jelly Beans release then most likely my Ipad3 will be sent to Ebay to get some extra cash for the next Asus tablet release in 2013!
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Glad to here the positive experience when compared to the ipad.
I too upgraded for EUR 105,- and it's worth every cent!
The screen is to much better and sharper. Reading forums in portrait mode is no problem now. On the prime it often got to crappy to read and I had to zoom in.
Furthermore it feels faster and it's definitely more stable.Finally no more Wifi issues and SD card won't eject anymore.
Also HDMI port is better designed.
Just upgrade
stunya said:
I am seriously considering the upgrade from the Prime to the Infinity. Its going to cost me $125-150, but already have the dock so that will make things less painful.
Is the screen, slightly faster processor, and overall experience worth the jump?
Thanks for the feedback.
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I upgraded and received my Infinity yesterday. Overall, it is a much nicer tablet. I really think this is what the prime should have been when it launched. I have much better wifi and GPS reception, and the screen is much nicer to look at. Another thing that most people aren't mentioning is that the SD card actually fits in the tablet now!
That being said, I'm still having problems (even after the .26 update) running ShadowGun. The game works fine it I've just rebooted the tablet, but after several applications have been launched, I can't get past the first shot or two before the game freezes. You can still hear the game playing in the background, but the screen bounces back and forth between 2 frames. Maybe someone has a fix?
Anyway, yes, I am happy coming from the Prime.
Tlbradshaw said:
I upgraded and received my Infinity yesterday. Overall, it is a much nicer tablet. I really think this is what the prime should have been when it launched. I have much better wifi and GPS reception, and the screen is much nicer to look at. Another thing that most people aren't mentioning is that the SD card actually fits in the tablet now!
That being said, I'm still having problems (even after the .26 update) running ShadowGun. The game works fine it I've just rebooted the tablet, but after several applications have been launched, I can't get past the first shot or two before the game freezes. You can still hear the game playing in the background, but the screen bounces back and forth between 2 frames. Maybe someone has a fix?
Anyway, yes, I am happy coming from the Prime.
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I never owned a Prime (cancelled pre-order) so can't compare the two but from all the negative reports from the users, I can definitely say that the 700 is the most worthy successor to the 101. This is my gaming tablet and with just a few exceptions will be loaded with nothing but Tegra 3 games and full HD apps. The speed and resolution of the 700 is just right for 1080p movies, it plays the streamed .mkv files like it was coming from the sdcard! So smooth and lag free.
No way the Prime's 1280x800 can match the 700's display, no contest there but of course there will be an additional power drain to contend with so power regulation is a must.
Glad I switched
I exchanged and updated my 201 for 700 this week. Other than having an issue doing and OTA update (which is a serial number issue again with ASUS! I was able to update manually with no problem) I am very happy I did so. In the last 48 hours I have not had any issues, which I always did with prime. I use mine for work and play although I do not really play intense games on the device. WIFI is tons better and GPS is rock solid. I did compare my screen with my daughters ipad 3 and even she was impressed with the quality. She is an apple fanatic but even she sees where being locked down in the apple OS world has its limitations as compared to android. Glad she learned something in college!
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I exchanged and updated my 201 for 700 this week. Other than having an issue doing and OTA update (which is a serial number issue again with ASUS! I was able to update manually with no problem) I am very happy I did so. In the last 48 hours I have not had any issues, which I always did with prime. I use mine for work and play although I do not really play intense games on the device. WIFI is tons better and GPS is rock solid. I did compare my screen with my daughters ipad 3 and even she was impressed with the quality. She is an apple fanatic but even she sees where being locked down in the apple OS world has its limitations as compared to android. Glad she learned something in college!
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good deal. first time i wish i bought something from BB...could have upgraded for free. thanks for the feedback.
well thanks, thats all the convincing i needed. ordered an infinity about 20 mins ago.
Thanks all!! I look forward to joining the group!!
PS-anyone need a very lightly used prime? HA!
I finally pulled the trigger and sold my Prime for the Infinity on Craigslist today. Went to Best Buy hoping to find tf700 with no luck. Fortunately for me the employee I was speaking to was very friendly and found one available at one of the other bb locations 23 miles away! Though a display model I still wanted it. I purchased it ahead of time and drove 23 miles to pick it up. When I got there. They took it off the display and showed me the scratch marks on the back plate and the slab of adhesive they used to keep the tablet connected that they couldn't peel away. Then I noticed that the label says tf201!!!! Mother [email protected]#ker!! The employee that said that they had one available mistakenly thought that that was the tf700 because it was so similar!!! The employee explained it to me and apologized. I said I drove for 45 mins to get here and was assured that you guys had the tf700!!! I was very upset. The guy was scared and looked around... finally he found one in the store!!! It was reserved for someone else that paid online. I ended up with a new tf700 and not a display model!!! Lol Apparently the person that ordered online had cancelled his order after checking the system and I was very fortunate to come out of BB with a brand new tf700!! So far loving the new toy.
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Once my Infinity arrives, giving my Prime to a close family member, rooted with Androwook and chock full of my paid apps.
Thanks for the thread, sounds like it'll be a redeeming (mostly?) upgrade! Now for those roms...
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I exchanged my C1 Prime at Best Buy which GPS was dead when I bought it and ended up with a C7 Infinity. Wifi/BT/GPS were great, however vibration, haptic feedback was dead out of the box. Attempted trying to toggle the settings but still nothing on power up/down, etc. It also couldn't find the OTA when I tried to update and I had to install .26 from my microsd which I take it is this issue here.
Took it back yesterday. Pretty bummed since my major issue with 201 was wifi/BT problems using my headset and music/netflix but it seemed good on the 700. Overall it seemed better than the Prime but that's not saying much .. Asus still has some pretty bad QC in my opinion
I've had my Infinity for a week now since I got my prime refunded. To echo a previous comment in this thread, this is what the prime should have been and what I expected it to be. Everything just works and the screen is absolutely beautiful. My prime never got a GPS lock, and running Bluetooth to my Thunderbolt for Tablet Talk would make my internet slow so an unusable crawl on the Prime. Here on the infinity I can stream music while browsing the web or XDA and texting. Used it successfully a few times for navigation while tethered; got a GPS lock nearly as fast as my phone locks. Plus it fits more snugly in my 201 dock than my Prime did. My only gripe is that the battery has not been quite as epic as my Prime, but it has been more than sufficient for daily use.
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stunya said:
well thanks, thats all the convincing i needed. ordered an infinity about 20 mins ago.
Thanks all!! I look forward to joining the group!!
PS-anyone need a very lightly used prime? HA!
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I'm sure you're already aware, but if not...that if you purchased your Prime tablet from Best Buy you can actually exchange it for an Infinity by way of One year manufacturer warranty.
jjdevega said:
I finally pulled the trigger and sold my Prime for the Infinity on Craigslist today. Went to Best Buy hoping to find tf700 with no luck. Fortunately for me the employee I was speaking to was very friendly and found one available at one of the other bb locations 23 miles away! Though a display model I still wanted it. I purchased it ahead of time and drove 23 miles to pick it up. When I got there. They took it off the display and showed me the scratch marks on the back plate and the slab of adhesive they used to keep the tablet connected that they couldn't peel away. Then I noticed that the label says tf201!!!! Mother [email protected]#ker!! The employee that said that they had one available mistakenly thought that that was the tf700 because it was so similar!!! The employee explained it to me and apologized. I said I drove for 45 mins to get here and was assured that you guys had the tf700!!! I was very upset. The guy was scared and looked around... finally he found one in the store!!! It was reserved for someone else that paid online. I ended up with a new tf700 and not a display model!!! Lol Apparently the person that ordered online had cancelled his order after checking the system and I was very fortunate to come out of BB with a brand new tf700!! So far loving the new toy.
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How is internet browsing faster? Thats my problem with the prime sluggish.
LOVE IT
This is what I was expecting when I bought Prime. GPS and Wi-Fi work great. Screen crisp and clear. Camera takes really good pics. Had 2 primes, both had terrible picture quality. Gone into settings a few times and did update check, won't show one. No biggie, I'll d-load and push. Rooted fine.
Only complaint is, battery doesn't last as long as primes did.
Overall, very pleased. Especially since I had best buy damage warranty and they gave me Infinity free.
This is what the prime should have been! WFI,GPS, works. Had it for 24hrs, so far so good
I never really had problems with my prime (except bad GPS and pixels), but I exchanged it anyways for an infinity. I have to say the infinity is really what the prime should have been, the screen resolution is amazing, it's fast, GPS works and I even notice better wifi connections. I had to root the prime and tweak the hell out of it to get it to perform anywhere near what the infinity does right out of the box. Oh and its the first asus tablet I've had the does not have dead pixels.
As title says, which one would you prefer. I'm on 4.1.1 so I won't be able to flash nvflash with my asus infinity. How big is the risk for me to unlock then install cleanrom?
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As title says, which one would you prefer. I'm on 4.1.1 so I won't be able to flash nvflash with my asus infinity. How big is the risk for me to unlock then install cleanrom?
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If you do it right, no risk really, (maybe .1%, but this come with anything). I have been testing like uninstall/reinstall/reformat/switching internal memory to sdcard/downgrade/upgrade/incremental upgrade/flashing kernels about at least 20 times and mine is running top notch.
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If you do it right, no risk really, (maybe .1%, but this come with anything). I have been testing like uninstall/reinstall/reformat/switching internal memory to sdcard/downgrade/upgrade/incremental upgrade/flashing kernels about at least 20 times and mine is running top notch.
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and you don't have nvflash? I'm just debating whether or not to unlock it, because once I do I can't really sell it to get the nexus 10. I feel like the nexus 10 will have more dev support over the years...however I will stick with the tf700 if it performs better than the n10 with cleanmod and with an overclock
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How big is the risk for me to unlock then install cleanrom?
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I agree it's low or no risk...
Although don't do it just because.
If you really are trying to talk yourself into a Nexus then it might be better to leave the TFI as is.
Are you happy overall with the TF700T?
Coming from the ground up
Thats OK said:
I agree it's low or no risk...
Although don't do it just because.
If you really are trying to talk yourself into a Nexus then it might be better to leave the TFI as is.
Are you happy overall with the TF700T?
Coming from the ground up
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it's not as smooth as I had hoped it to be but I heard cleanmod fixes this.
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it's not as smooth as I had hoped it to be but I heard cleanmod fixes this.
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Yes, CleanRom and Clemsyn and data2sd really make this thing worth more than $500. I'm very happy with it. When I first purchased the device, my wife and kids refused to use it due to performance and broswer, now they're fighting to grab it.
I am personally running clean and oc and it is awesome, but hard to compare to something that no one has in their hands. If you are unsure just wait. check out the 10 then go from there. my decision to unlock was based on the external sd and dock. Nexus will have options too , but I decided to hang on to my 700 and getting my kids nexus 7's for xmas so I will have some nexus fun too...
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it's not as smooth as I had hoped it to be but I heard cleanmod fixes this.
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Yep,
I have to say with CleanROM and the newest Clemsyn's I no longer consider my TFI a clunker...
The biggest risk is that any future hardware failure will be very expensive for you (if you want a working TF700 back).
I'm on paranoid Android with Clemsyn's CM10 based kernel. No data to sd and I love it! Super fast. My tablet feels rock solid. I don't understand why some complain about build quality. I love the slim sexy look. Can't wait to get my micro sd to try data to sd. Hearing how awesome it is will make this thing crazy good. I wouldn't own a tablet or phone I couldn't hack on. I love development and it's quickly turned into my favorite hobby the past couple years
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i dont like mine at all and want a nexus 10. i shoudlnt have to unlock void this and the other i just want something that works. i do a lot of flashing on my htx one x to get it where it "should be" while all my friends just buy their ipad 4 and have zero things to do on them, just use them as intented. i stick to android because i need it to do a load more than iOS can give me but damn sometimes i wish google would just make a stable version. oh wait. its called a nexus 10. lol and theres no luck in selling these things. who knows about a transformer infinity ? resale value is low >_>
This is Engadget's verdict about the Nexus 10:
"At under $400, the Nexus 10 is a compelling package, but despite that display it can't quite muster best-in-class performances across the charts. In fact, other than a relative lack of resolution (1,920 x 1,200 vs. this guy's 2,560 x 1,600) the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 is, we think, an overall better package. It's thinner, lighter, faster, has a much better camera, offers better battery life (particularly if you opt for the keyboard dock) and, frankly, we'd take the brightness and contrast of that 600 nit, Super IPS+ panel over this one with its extra pixels.
What does ASUS's offering lack? Well, Android 4.2 for one thing, but as we've shown above you're just an aftermarket keyboard app away from getting the best that has to offer right now. And, the Nexus 10 does have a lower starting price of $399 for a 16GB model. The cheapest we were able to find the TF700 currently is $477 -- but that's for 32GB, so it's actually $20 cheaper than the 32GB Nexus 10. Plus, the TF700 offers expandable storage.
The Nexus 7 impressed us on nearly every front. What few flaws there were we more than forgave thanks to its bargain-basement price. At $400 to $500, the Nexus 10 is actually on par with many other 10-inch Android competitors -- even a little more expensive than some -- and, with average performance in most areas and sub-par battery life, it's relying on that incredibly high resolution and fresh Android build to set it apart. Sadly, neither is enough to distance this tablet from the competition.
The resolution is indeed quite nice but in many ways, the Super IPS+ panel on the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 is even nicer, and other than that new keyboard there's nothing much in Android 4.2 to get excited about right now. Of course, the true beauty of the Nexus line is that when 4.3 rolls around this slate will be the first to get it, and that is certainly worth something. But is it worth enough to make up for this tablet's other shortcomings?"
So go and buy a Nexus 10 and be happy
Crizthakidd said:
i dont like mine at all and want a nexus 10. i shoudlnt have to unlock void this and the other i just want something that works. i do a lot of flashing on my htx one x to get it where it "should be" while all my friends just buy their ipad 4 and have zero things to do on them, just use them as intented. i stick to android because i need it to do a load more than iOS can give me but damn sometimes i wish google would just make a stable version. oh wait. its called a nexus 10. lol and theres no luck in selling these things. who knows about a transformer infinity ? resale value is low >_>
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i shoudlnt have to unlock void this and the other i just want something that works.
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First, it sounds like the OP already has a TF700. For someone that's going to have to take a loss to get a N10 the question of which to get is different than someone just looking to buy a tablet. It also depends on what OP does with his tablet. The one place where the N10 will blow anything else out there away is gaming. Teg3 is a fifteen month old 40nm A9 chip and in the TF700 it's running at its maximum resolution output. The Mali in the N10 has 2/3 more memory bandwidth and that's huge. For consumption, browsing, and utility type stuff it doesn't make sense to go from a TF700 to a N10.
For someone looking for a new tablet unless they need the keyboard, extended battery life, Super IPS display, and expandable storage it makes no sense to buy a TF700 over a N10. The N10's designed by Google and built by Samsung so it will run well out of the box, be built well, have great service and support, and be updated regularly well in to the future. And it costs less too.
And 95% of people buying a tablet don't know what a bootloader is so what they get out of the box is what they're going to have to live with. To get competitive performance out of the TF700 you guys on this forum have done some of the best work I've seen on XDA. But at the end of the day your $499 tablet costs $649 ($499+$100 SquareTrade for voiding warranty+$50 Class 10 SD card for data2SD to fix read/write issues) which is almost the same price as the most expensive tablet available: the 64GB iPad. And even after that it doesn't have 5GHz dual-channel Wi-Fi, BT4.0, Glonass-support, NFC, and other more modern features. So for a non-XDA audience not needing or wanting the TF700's extra features they'll have a far better experience with a stock N10.
Without unlocking, rooting, and risking file corruption the TF700's performance isn't really competitive. Here's a stock TF700 on the latest JB update vs. a stock Note 10.1 on yesterday's JB release. I can't imagine the N10 in final shippable form on pure 4.2 won't at least match the Note's performance. And if someone applied the same SQL tweaks and other things you've guys have had to do to the Note 10.1 the vast difference in stock performance would carry through when looking at them tweaked vs. tweaked. The difference being no one's done it because it's not necessary. And you know the dev community for the N10 will be huge and they'll be able to get a lot more out of the N10 matching or exceeding your gains over stock.
So which to pick depends on whether someone's willing to heavily modify their device to make it perform well, whether more modern features matter, how big a deal the non-expandable storage is on the N10, and how important Asus' unique features are. There’s really no one-size-fits-all answer if you’re being objective.
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For someone looking for a new tablet unless they need the keyboard, extended battery life, Super IPS display, removable storage it makes no sense to buy a TF700 over a N10.
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^^^^This^^^^^
It basically boils down to what features will end out being most important to you in your day to day use.
I too seroiusly considered ditching the TF700 for the N10 but when I weighed out the benifits of the N10 compared to what I would be sacrifing I just could not get myself to pull the trigger.
I can not count the amount of times I have had to turn on that super ips switch and slide it to Max. The benifit of the N10's higher resolution and faster processor would be moot in this situation if I cant veiw the display.
I myself am considering switching to a GNote 10.1 from my t700. Gaming and just the I/o in general seems more smooth on the note. Just sucks its such an expensive tablet for what you get.
I am worried about unlocking, because even with a square trade warranty once your manufacture warranty is void, so I'd your squaretrade. Also your square trade does not go into effect until the year on your regular warranty...so if your unlocked I guess you better hope you don't have an issue for the first year
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Nice read. OP wondering what you've decided with. I'm stuck too. Love the form factor of the t700 with keyboard but I feel its very outdated processor. N10 is a beast when it comes to gaming. Butter smooth.
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Nice read. OP wondering what you've decided with. I'm stuck too. Love the form factor of the t700 with keyboard but I feel its very outdated processor. N10 is a beast when it comes to gaming. Butter smooth.
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I am on the fence as well and I am an android noob with a stock TF700 plus dock still returnable at BB.
I have seen you here and in the Nexus 10 forum and was wondering if you bought one. I mostly browse and watch movies, so not sure if the TF700 is going to be to much for a starter noob like me. BarryH has some great points.
I chose Android to try and get away for all the proprietary issues with the Apple brand... I feel the walls closing in on that idea!
I would at least like to root and have some say over MY tablet and deny some of these insane permissions that are being asked.
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I am on the fence as well and I am an android noob with a stock TF700 plus dock still returnable at BB.
I have seen you here and in the Nexus 10 forum and was wondering if you bought one. I mostly browse and watch movies, so not sure if the TF700 is going to be to much for a starter noob like me. BarryH has some great points.
I chose Android to try and get away for all the proprietary issues with the Apple brand... I feel the walls closing in on that idea!
I would at least like to root and have some say over MY tablet and deny some of these insane permissions that are being asked.
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I have both. I like the nexus 10 for gaming and it just works. Everything is smooth. Tf700 is not as smooth and do lag from time to time but the keyboard dock is its selling point IMO. For browsing and watching movies the tf700 is good.
Also to add I just unlocked and running cleanrom inheritance with clemsey kernel and it still lags here and there.
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I finally unlocked and with cleanrom inheritance along with clemsey kernel 1.8ghz with 650 gpu. IMO n10 is still smoother and faster. Not to say the tf700 didn't improve but I do still see frame rate drop often and games are smoother but not butter smooth like the n10. The n10 gpu is just a beast.
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Just finished reading the Spec's on this thing and it looks like the perfect tablet I've been waiting for. I wish Samsung would pick up their skirt and get dirty on the galaxy tabs but until they do I'm seriously considering picking up this guy. I've been on an iPad 2 and need to get away from the apple ecosystem.
What are your impressions on this tablet and do you think there will be community support for it. I don't want something I can't root.
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ToiletDucky said:
Just finished reading the Spec's on this thing and it looks like the perfect tablet I've been waiting for. I wish Samsung would pick up their skirt and get dirty on the galaxy tabs but until they do I'm seriously considering picking up this guy. I've been on an iPad 2 and need to get away from the apple ecosystem.
What are your impressions on this tablet and do you think there will be community support for it. I don't want something I can't root.
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If you were on an iOS ecosystem.
Then don't even think to come to android
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My phone is a HTC one like I said I want to get rid of the iPad. LG Goad looks promising too
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What specs? Other than resolution I haven't seen much.
I'm glad to see more 4x3 android tablets and am strongly considering the Slate 8 pro. I really don't like 16x10 for a tablet.
looks like you can buy one now. $329 isnt too bad, but it only has 1gb of ram. previews mentioned it would have 2gb i think
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looks like you can buy one now. $329 isnt too bad, but it only has 1gb of ram. previews mentioned it would have 2gb i think
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Yeah what we're they thinking with 1 gig?
my guess is it was to keep the price down. something tells me they'll probably have a slate 10 pro eventually. maybe they'll put 2gb in that one instead
Anyone buy this bad boy yet? It's available at B&h and now online at Best Buy too.
Does it come with multi-year out of the box?
I picked up the Acer Iconia A1 810 at Staples for $99 and I love the 4x3 ratio. It makes me think I need to buy the Slate 8 pro as a faster, higher resolution replacement.
I'm a bit worried about the 1 gig though, particularly since I want multi-user. What does android do when it's out of ram? Kill apps? Pop up errors?
Been keeping a keen eye on this one too since its announcement - pretty much the same reason as all the above posts.
15% off from the UK's HP website for Cyber Monday (today) was just enough incentive for me to hit the "buy" button... its still £237 after the discount - ouch!! >_<
I'll report back once it arrives if any one is interested?
K.
I am interested!
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Been keeping a keen eye on this one too since its announcement - pretty much the same reason as all the above posts.
15% off from the UK's HP website for Cyber Monday (today) was just enough incentive for me to hit the "buy" button... its still £237 after the discount - ouch!! >_<
I'll report back once it arrives if any one is interested?
K.
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I picked up a slate 8 pro and it seems they still have some bugs to work out.
1) I setup two users but Android hangs when I try to switch users.
2) I can't seem to type quickly without dropping a significant number of characters. At first I thought it was my mistakes but it happens far more than on my other tablets (Note 8 and Acer Iconia A1). It might be a periodic screen freeze issue? All I know it's that I can't type quickly and accurately at all. Blocks of characters end up missing.
3) It makes weird clicking noises. I believe it's the camera lens. I don't know if it's adjusting to light or what but it's super annoying.
I was hoping the Slate 8 pro would combine the pros of my two tablets: the 4x3 aspect ratio of the Acer and the higher screen quality of the Note 8. But at this point either of the other tablets is more pleasant to use. Hrmph.
I have until Jan 15th to return it to best buy. Maybe they'll have a fix worked out by then.
Another disappointment is that the scrolling in apps like Facebook is still choppy. I was hoping some new hardware and a better GPU would make it liquid smooth. Not even close. I guess it's Android or the app itself that sucks.
The volume rocker is a bad design and is quite inconvenient to use I could live with this though.
But fast typing is impossible. If this isn't fixed it's unusable.
EDIT: it looks like the typing was related to swiftkey. I'm not having the problem with thumb-keyboard.
My first post!
Hello all,
I currently own an asus tf300 tablet, which I bought last year in 2012. Now that I am a supporter of nvidia, I decided to buy a HP Slate 8 Pro for my sister as a xmas present because of the specs and tegra 4 of course.
I highly doubt she'll do a review, but hopefully (after she opens it) I can play around with it and share my impressions on it. I look forward to what you all think of the HP Slate 8 Pro!
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I picked up a slate 8 pro and it seems they still have some bugs to work out.
1) I setup two users but Android hangs when I try to switch users.
2) I can't seem to type quickly without dropping a significant number of characters. At first I thought it was my mistakes but it happens far more than on my other tablets (Note 8 and Acer Iconia A1). It might be a periodic screen freeze issue? All I know it's that I can't type quickly and accurately at all. Blocks of characters end up missing.
3) It makes weird clicking noises. I believe it's the camera lens. I don't know if it's adjusting to light or what but it's super annoying.
I was hoping the Slate 8 pro would combine the pros of my two tablets: the 4x3 aspect ratio of the Acer and the higher screen quality of the Note 8. But at this point either of the other tablets is more pleasant to use. Hrmph.
I have until Jan 15th to return it to best buy. Maybe they'll have a fix worked out by then.
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what kind of bloatware, if any, does it have? or is it basically just stock android?
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what kind of bloatware, if any, does it have? or is it basically just stock android?
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heard its cool
lanzero said:
heard its cool
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Yeah its minimal which is great.
I'm also starting to appreciate the increased speed and smoothness. It is indeed much more responsive than my other tablets.
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Yeah its minimal which is great.
I'm also starting to appreciate the increased speed and smoothness. It is indeed much more responsive than my other tablets.
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yeah looks goody
rumatt said:
Yeah its minimal which is great.
I'm also starting to appreciate the increased speed and smoothness. It is indeed much more responsive than my other tablets.
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I'm curious about the display - not the resolution, but the brightness.
I picked up one of the Gpad 8.3 tablets, and it was a terrible device for me because the screen was too dim to use outdoors. I saw a review in Laptop that pegged the gpad in the 275 or so lux range, where the Nexus 2013 and the Note 8 are both close to 500 lux.
If you dial the HP up to max brightness and hold it alongside the Note 8 at max brightness, how do they compare? I'm pretty interested in the HP, except that I haven't seen any discussion of how bright the screen really is.
Thanks!
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I'm curious about the display - not the resolution, but the brightness.
I picked up one of the Gpad 8.3 tablets, and it was a terrible device for me because the screen was too dim to use outdoors. I saw a review in Laptop that pegged the gpad in the 275 or so lux range, where the Nexus 2013 and the Note 8 are both close to 500 lux.
If you dial the HP up to max brightness and hold it alongside the Note 8 at max brightness, how do they compare? I'm pretty interested in the HP, except that I haven't seen any discussion of how bright the screen really is.
Thanks!
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It gets pretty darn bright. I'd say its as bright orbbrighter than the note 8.
how much can you pick these up for now?
some videos of its sloweness.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAy9pN-PyXk
http://youtu.be/443g1m2D9Us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Qofo_vybg
so slow its painful
Would a custom rom make this any better?
Had a look at those vids, looks to be about average for the stock ROM and is similar to the performance I was getting on stock.
Any of the custom ROMs will help with the sluggishness.
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some videos of its sloweness.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAy9pN-PyXk
http://youtu.be/443g1m2D9Us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Qofo_vybg
so slow its painful
Would a custom rom make this any better?
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Uncheck power saving mode, disable all animations at development tools menu
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Flashed a custom rom and things are much better. 100%not worth its 270 price tag
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Samsung puts only 1gb ram and fills it with all kinds of it's own services that use all the ram and bug down the system:
Solution:
-Replace Touchwiz with Go Launcher HD.
-Root device and freeze all Samsung stuff that boot up with the system which you don't need such Samsung hubs(games, news etc), Yahoo services etc. Titanium backup can be of help to freeze.
-uncheck cpu in power savings option.
-reduce or stop animations in developer options.
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Don't forget to freeze Touchwiz after having replaced it with Go launcher HD. This will prevent it from loading again in the background and hugging your memory. See how your device becomes fast
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Dont mind trying that.but im not sure how to freeze things from start up?
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maybe u got defect tab 3 ,try antutu benchmark and see how much u get score?
I had tab 3 7.0 got so slow with only 8800 score, and its got RMA due to auto shut down motherboard,and they give me new tab3, now its score 12000-13000pts,more faster and smooth.
Root it. It is much faster with a custom ROM
Don't use the Facebook app. It's a bloated mess.
Don't use S-Voice. Worthless. Use Google Now. Much better voice search/assistant
Yup it sucks
I was going to start the same thread before I saw yours. The SGT3 is a horrible tablet, cheaply built, slow, antiquated resolution and overpriced. I bought one after my Asus Infinity 700T was stolen after a visit too a library. When I went into the store to buy a new tablet I asked the sales person what he would recommend, I had a budget of 300. He excitedly showed me the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1, the demo unit unfortunately wan't able to start, an omen I should have realized. I was impressed by the size and weight, the cheap plastic feel was worrying but the latter two plus's were enough for me to pull the trigger. When I got it home, charged it, setup up all of the user credentials, the first thing I noticed was how cartoonishly big everything looked. I did however like the look of the keyboard, so I pushed on and installed all of my favorite apps, I started to notice a lot of lag when installing apps, okay maybe the Play Store just isn't optimized for the x86 CPU, I continued. When the tablet was finished installing, I rebooted, than the nightmare what is Tab 3 started. First I tried surfing with Chrome but when more than 6 tabs are opened, do to the lack of memory you will loose whatever you have typed in one tab after you switch to another. The system is very sluggish, typing with a Logitech Keyboard in QuickOffice, the screen can't keep up with my typing. I can spend all day going through all of my apps and describing to you how slow each one performed but you get the idea, SLOW. I wanted to comment on the screen, the resolution is ridiculously bad for a 300 dollar 2014 tablet, I am actually shocked as to how bad it is. It's bright enough but man, Samsung has gotten so cocky to think that they can shove this crap down our throats. Not to mention how easy it is to scratch, breath on it and it's scratched. I decided to try installing a custom ROM for giggles, I had already decided to return it, wow slim pickings in that arena. The two I found were also really bad, the tablet was a little faster, memory management improved a little, not sure why the developers thought that changing the look of the color scheme for the notifications tab was a good idea, the ROMs did nothing to improve the overall experience though, nothing.
I returned the Tab 3 after only two days of what I would call the worst experience I have ever had with a gadget and bought a Nexus 10. 100x the better machine, it even cost 30 dollars less and has built in HDML. Oh the HDMI, I forgot about the HDMI, Samsung charges 40 dollars for the HDMI cable, it however doesn't charge the Tab 3 when connected and because the battery is so bad you can maybe watch a movie and a half. It also doesn't output 1080P when your in the desktop, just 720P so everything is fuzzy. Stay away from this tablet people, it's bad, expensive and insulting to the consumer.
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Stay away from this tablet people, it's bad, expensive and insulting to the consumer.
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I'd have to heartily disagree with you on that. I've had mine for a few days now and it's everything I expected and then some. Even before I froze a ton of stuff it was lagfree for me. Yeah the resolution kinda blows but it's a tablet. If you want 1080p look at your monitor, 720 is more than fine for a mid-level tablet. As for the Nexus, well I'd have to say the Tab is better but my opinion is jaded because it has a SD Slot, that's a monumental dealbreaker for me when it comes to the Nexus. You talk about it being 2014 well in that case the Nexus should have an SD Slot, that's an archaic thing do by not including one. Not everyone wants to cloud everything. :good:
Regardless, this tablet is more than competent. There is a reason it has a huge community and such great ratings everywhere, it's probably one of the highest quality tablets for its price.
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I'd have to heartily disagree with you on that. I've had mine for a few days now and it's everything I expected and then some. Even before I froze a ton of stuff it was lagfree for me. Yeah the resolution kinda blows but it's a tablet. If you want 1080p look at your monitor, 720 is more than fine for a mid-level tablet. As for the Nexus, well I'd have to say the Tab is better but my opinion is jaded because it has a SD Slot, that's a monumental dealbreaker for me when it comes to the Nexus. You talk about it being 2014 well in that case the Nexus should have an SD Slot, that's an archaic thing do by not including one. Not everyone wants to cloud everything. :good:
Regardless, this tablet is more than competent. There is a reason it has a huge community and such great ratings everywhere, it's probably one of the highest quality tablets for its price.
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There is some things about this tablet that really irks me but I guess I have high hopes for the KK update helping it out. I also agree with you on the SD slot, that is one main reason I did not buy a Nexus. I also must say that I love the IR blaster and the watchon app, its very convenient and I don't need to find my logitech harmony when I'm on my tablet to mess with the tv. I think I got a good tablet for the price I paid, if I had wanted better then I would of been paying $550+. But I am typing this on my laptop with the tab beside me and my Note 2 and a PS Vita,oh and the ipod touch. I think I have enough devices to connect to the internet and the tab fills its roll well.
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I'd have to heartily disagree with you on that. I've had mine for a few days now and it's everything I expected and then some. Even before I froze a ton of stuff it was lagfree for me. Yeah the resolution kinda blows but it's a tablet. If you want 1080p look at your monitor, 720 is more than fine for a mid-level tablet. As for the Nexus, well I'd have to say the Tab is better but my opinion is jaded because it has a SD Slot, that's a monumental dealbreaker for me when it comes to the Nexus. You talk about it being 2014 well in that case the Nexus should have an SD Slot, that's an archaic thing do by not including one. Not everyone wants to cloud everything. :good:
Regardless, this tablet is more than competent. There is a reason it has a huge community and such great ratings everywhere, it's probably one of the highest quality tablets for its price.
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I'm glad your happy with your purchase. The Samsung Tab 3 10.1 when compared with other tablets actually has one of the smallest followings at XDA. Just compare the previous versions forum with the new one, you have 2 custom ROMs versus 20 plus for the Tab 2. Every single review I have read says the same thing, laggy tablet, obsolete the second it came off of the assembly line. The SD card issue doesn't really bother me because I happen to like cloud storage but I understand your need for it. Can you tell me what you like about it, it's just so slow for me, my Motorola Xoom 1 that is 4 years old feels faster. In fact I get higher frame rates in almost every game that I play vs. the Tab 3. What about the problem of scratching, that doesn't bother you or only having 300mb of memory free for apps, the horrible battery life, 50 dollar HDMI cable that doesn't output 1080p desktop nor does it charge the unit while plugged in, oh my gosh the list goes on. I would have spent the extra 100 and gotten a Sony Xperia Z.
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Can you tell me what you like about it, it's just so slow for me, my Motorola Xoom 1 that is 4 years old feels faster. In fact I get higher frame rates in almost every game that I play vs. the Tab 3. What about the problem of scratching, that doesn't bother you or only having 300mb of memory free for apps, the horrible battery life, 50 dollar HDMI cable that doesn't output 1080p desktop nor does it charge the unit while plugged in, oh my gosh the list goes on. I would have spent the extra 100 and gotten a Sony Xperia Z.
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It's much slower than the Nook Tablet which has been given to my mom since I bought the Tab3 and frankly I've never wanted to go back. As far as speed is concerned if I can multi window a HD video and look at Facebook or the internet at the same time I'd consider the device high speed. Seriously, this guy has done very good for me so far and I'm a major techie(Should be evident by my existence on XDA). I don't really play 3D games on my Tab since i leave major gaming for my PC however FPSE(PS1 Emulator) runs like a champ on this tab. Scratching? All LCD screens have been known to be prone to scratching, if that concerns you so much you can get a case and a screen protector, on my old iPod I bought a infinicase and I took that thing EVERYWHERE, dropped it probably once or twice a day and it was never scratched, having a case that puts the screen at a lifted height from the ground guarantees safety unless it hits at an angle which in that case you're boned. If you're referring to key scratching or something then idk, I've never imagined putting my tablet near things that could ruin it. 300mb of free memory for apps? Taking a quick glance at my storage i have almost 10 gigs of free room on my system storage and plenty on my SD Card, after installing probably a dozen or so various applications. 50$ HDMI cable? I'm not surprised, those suckers ain't cheap. Honestly if you wanted to HDMI it to your TV I would've checked online for more information before making the purchase, the fact that it doesn't charge while being plugged into HDMI in no way surprises me, unless you wanted a charger+HDMI in one sorta thing. Once again I don't personally care about 1080p or 720, I can only see the difference on a monitor, on a TV it's serviceable at worst which is more than enough for a tablet hooked up to a TV.
felt like pitching in here to say that the OP didnt mention what size he got - if it was the 7" model, its specs are basically the same as the tab 2 7.0
my tab 3 8.0 was a lot faster than my tab 2 7.0, and a hella lot faster once it was tweaked/OC'd.
agreed with one users comment about the MHL HDMI being poor - the cable i have allows it to charge while it works, but due to the tablet being 16:10, i get black bars on my 16:9 HDTV. the built in movie app corrects this, but it doesnt make sense for it to not be 16:9 in the first place.
What are you running up there..top left corner...pls list out the apps running in the background
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You talk about it being 2014 well in that case the Nexus should have an SD Slot, that's an archaic thing do by not including one. Not everyone wants to cloud everything. :good:
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Gotta totally agree with you there on not wanting to cloud everything, so the good old SD card is a must IMHO.
But horses for courses as they say.
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Forgot to add that I recently purchased a Samsung Galaxy Tab3 and think it's great and a lot nicer to use than my aging ASUS TF101
gonna just sell mine i think and take a £50 loss. I cant stand how slow it is even with a custom rom.
It can't be thaaat slow (under normal circumstances). I mean there must be something defective or something going wrong in the background. I know that benchmarks are not the most ideal way to measure performance but having a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for comparison which performs like 8800 on Antutu and Tab 3 10.1 is in the margin of 20000-22000 it's hard to believe that the device is not capable to offer atleast equaly good performance as the Tab 2 7.0 which is rather good (not the best, but not even near to what your Youtube videos show let's say). I plan to buy it brand new for 210 Euros (~289$) and I HIGHLY DOUBT you can find another tablet for that price with the same screen size and not be from a random Chinese brand or a rebranded Chinese product. My advice would be, wait for KitKat update to come out or try CM11 and then redo a review and if you consider it to be still that bad return it or sell it. Also you don't describe on what usage your were doing with it. I plan to get it for my mother just for surfing and stream some Youtube videos and I doubt it's going to be that bad but feel free to prove me wrong.
im getting 13149 score
it gets to 87% then says test is terminated.