I am seriously considering the upgrade from the Prime to the Infinity. Its going to cost me $125-150, but already have the dock so that will make things less painful.
Is the screen, slightly faster processor, and overall experience worth the jump?
Thanks for the feedback.
I've found my Infinity to be much more stable. My Prime was incredibly unstable and had very bad screen corruption and flickering on the later firmware, downgrading the firmware fixed that issue on the Prime though. The screen on the Infinity is very nice, but you probably won't notice the increased resolution except with text where it makes a very (to me) noticeable difference. The latest firmware update has seems to make multi-tasking smoother and given it a general sensation of being faster. I have a Nexus 7 and Jelly Bean makes everything very liquid smooth feeling so I have every expectation of Jelly Bean giving that same feel to the Infinity. The less tapered edge on the Infinity is actually very nice. It's more comfortable to hold and the micro sd card is completely inside the frame.
All said and done I think the Infinity is everything the Prime should have been. If you can upgrade for <$150 difference then go for it.
I did the upgrade so that I can compare my Ipad3 to the TF700T as well as wanting a functioning GPS radio. Speed has improved, stability has improved, screen has improved. All of my current applications work well. I have an issue of upgrading from a OTA but others do not so its my specific issue. I have been able to upgrade utilizing the file Asus posts on their service site for each update. As to my Ipad vs. TF700T the screens are for all practical purposes identical. Speed of all functions other than web browsing are identical (I have several applications that are the same function but for IOS or Android). Web browsing is not a tie my Ipad3 is more fluid than the TF700T. I expect that will even out with the release of Jelly Bean for the TF700T. I am waiting until that upgrade to see but if equal after Jelly Beans release then most likely my Ipad3 will be sent to Ebay to get some extra cash for the next Asus tablet release in 2013!
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I've found my Infinity to be much more stable. My Prime was incredibly unstable and had very bad screen corruption and flickering on the later firmware, downgrading the firmware fixed that issue on the Prime though. The screen on the Infinity is very nice, but you probably won't notice the increased resolution except with text where it makes a very (to me) noticeable difference. The latest firmware update has seems to make multi-tasking smoother and given it a general sensation of being faster. I have a Nexus 7 and Jelly Bean makes everything very liquid smooth feeling so I have every expectation of Jelly Bean giving that same feel to the Infinity. The less tapered edge on the Infinity is actually very nice. It's more comfortable to hold and the micro sd card is completely inside the frame.
All said and done I think the Infinity is everything the Prime should have been. If you can upgrade for <$150 difference then go for it.
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Thanks for the feedback. My prime has been rock solid, other than the app stutter / bluetooth issues that most have experienced. I normally upgrade every 18-24 months. Trying to justify the 7 month upgrade here. Thanks.
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I did the upgrade so that I can compare my Ipad3 to the TF700T as well as wanting a functioning GPS radio. Speed has improved, stability has improved, screen has improved. All of my current applications work well. I have an issue of upgrading from a OTA but others do not so its my specific issue. I have been able to upgrade utilizing the file Asus posts on their service site for each update. As to my Ipad vs. TF700T the screens are for all practical purposes identical. Speed of all functions other than web browsing are identical (I have several applications that are the same function but for IOS or Android). Web browsing is not a tie my Ipad3 is more fluid than the TF700T. I expect that will even out with the release of Jelly Bean for the TF700T. I am waiting until that upgrade to see but if equal after Jelly Beans release then most likely my Ipad3 will be sent to Ebay to get some extra cash for the next Asus tablet release in 2013!
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Glad to here the positive experience when compared to the ipad.
I too upgraded for EUR 105,- and it's worth every cent!
The screen is to much better and sharper. Reading forums in portrait mode is no problem now. On the prime it often got to crappy to read and I had to zoom in.
Furthermore it feels faster and it's definitely more stable.Finally no more Wifi issues and SD card won't eject anymore.
Also HDMI port is better designed.
Just upgrade
stunya said:
I am seriously considering the upgrade from the Prime to the Infinity. Its going to cost me $125-150, but already have the dock so that will make things less painful.
Is the screen, slightly faster processor, and overall experience worth the jump?
Thanks for the feedback.
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I upgraded and received my Infinity yesterday. Overall, it is a much nicer tablet. I really think this is what the prime should have been when it launched. I have much better wifi and GPS reception, and the screen is much nicer to look at. Another thing that most people aren't mentioning is that the SD card actually fits in the tablet now!
That being said, I'm still having problems (even after the .26 update) running ShadowGun. The game works fine it I've just rebooted the tablet, but after several applications have been launched, I can't get past the first shot or two before the game freezes. You can still hear the game playing in the background, but the screen bounces back and forth between 2 frames. Maybe someone has a fix?
Anyway, yes, I am happy coming from the Prime.
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I upgraded and received my Infinity yesterday. Overall, it is a much nicer tablet. I really think this is what the prime should have been when it launched. I have much better wifi and GPS reception, and the screen is much nicer to look at. Another thing that most people aren't mentioning is that the SD card actually fits in the tablet now!
That being said, I'm still having problems (even after the .26 update) running ShadowGun. The game works fine it I've just rebooted the tablet, but after several applications have been launched, I can't get past the first shot or two before the game freezes. You can still hear the game playing in the background, but the screen bounces back and forth between 2 frames. Maybe someone has a fix?
Anyway, yes, I am happy coming from the Prime.
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I never owned a Prime (cancelled pre-order) so can't compare the two but from all the negative reports from the users, I can definitely say that the 700 is the most worthy successor to the 101. This is my gaming tablet and with just a few exceptions will be loaded with nothing but Tegra 3 games and full HD apps. The speed and resolution of the 700 is just right for 1080p movies, it plays the streamed .mkv files like it was coming from the sdcard! So smooth and lag free.
No way the Prime's 1280x800 can match the 700's display, no contest there but of course there will be an additional power drain to contend with so power regulation is a must.
Glad I switched
I exchanged and updated my 201 for 700 this week. Other than having an issue doing and OTA update (which is a serial number issue again with ASUS! I was able to update manually with no problem) I am very happy I did so. In the last 48 hours I have not had any issues, which I always did with prime. I use mine for work and play although I do not really play intense games on the device. WIFI is tons better and GPS is rock solid. I did compare my screen with my daughters ipad 3 and even she was impressed with the quality. She is an apple fanatic but even she sees where being locked down in the apple OS world has its limitations as compared to android. Glad she learned something in college!
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I exchanged and updated my 201 for 700 this week. Other than having an issue doing and OTA update (which is a serial number issue again with ASUS! I was able to update manually with no problem) I am very happy I did so. In the last 48 hours I have not had any issues, which I always did with prime. I use mine for work and play although I do not really play intense games on the device. WIFI is tons better and GPS is rock solid. I did compare my screen with my daughters ipad 3 and even she was impressed with the quality. She is an apple fanatic but even she sees where being locked down in the apple OS world has its limitations as compared to android. Glad she learned something in college!
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good deal. first time i wish i bought something from BB...could have upgraded for free. thanks for the feedback.
well thanks, thats all the convincing i needed. ordered an infinity about 20 mins ago.
Thanks all!! I look forward to joining the group!!
PS-anyone need a very lightly used prime? HA!
I finally pulled the trigger and sold my Prime for the Infinity on Craigslist today. Went to Best Buy hoping to find tf700 with no luck. Fortunately for me the employee I was speaking to was very friendly and found one available at one of the other bb locations 23 miles away! Though a display model I still wanted it. I purchased it ahead of time and drove 23 miles to pick it up. When I got there. They took it off the display and showed me the scratch marks on the back plate and the slab of adhesive they used to keep the tablet connected that they couldn't peel away. Then I noticed that the label says tf201!!!! Mother [email protected]#ker!! The employee that said that they had one available mistakenly thought that that was the tf700 because it was so similar!!! The employee explained it to me and apologized. I said I drove for 45 mins to get here and was assured that you guys had the tf700!!! I was very upset. The guy was scared and looked around... finally he found one in the store!!! It was reserved for someone else that paid online. I ended up with a new tf700 and not a display model!!! Lol Apparently the person that ordered online had cancelled his order after checking the system and I was very fortunate to come out of BB with a brand new tf700!! So far loving the new toy.
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Once my Infinity arrives, giving my Prime to a close family member, rooted with Androwook and chock full of my paid apps.
Thanks for the thread, sounds like it'll be a redeeming (mostly?) upgrade! Now for those roms...
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I exchanged my C1 Prime at Best Buy which GPS was dead when I bought it and ended up with a C7 Infinity. Wifi/BT/GPS were great, however vibration, haptic feedback was dead out of the box. Attempted trying to toggle the settings but still nothing on power up/down, etc. It also couldn't find the OTA when I tried to update and I had to install .26 from my microsd which I take it is this issue here.
Took it back yesterday. Pretty bummed since my major issue with 201 was wifi/BT problems using my headset and music/netflix but it seemed good on the 700. Overall it seemed better than the Prime but that's not saying much .. Asus still has some pretty bad QC in my opinion
I've had my Infinity for a week now since I got my prime refunded. To echo a previous comment in this thread, this is what the prime should have been and what I expected it to be. Everything just works and the screen is absolutely beautiful. My prime never got a GPS lock, and running Bluetooth to my Thunderbolt for Tablet Talk would make my internet slow so an unusable crawl on the Prime. Here on the infinity I can stream music while browsing the web or XDA and texting. Used it successfully a few times for navigation while tethered; got a GPS lock nearly as fast as my phone locks. Plus it fits more snugly in my 201 dock than my Prime did. My only gripe is that the battery has not been quite as epic as my Prime, but it has been more than sufficient for daily use.
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well thanks, thats all the convincing i needed. ordered an infinity about 20 mins ago.
Thanks all!! I look forward to joining the group!!
PS-anyone need a very lightly used prime? HA!
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I'm sure you're already aware, but if not...that if you purchased your Prime tablet from Best Buy you can actually exchange it for an Infinity by way of One year manufacturer warranty.
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I finally pulled the trigger and sold my Prime for the Infinity on Craigslist today. Went to Best Buy hoping to find tf700 with no luck. Fortunately for me the employee I was speaking to was very friendly and found one available at one of the other bb locations 23 miles away! Though a display model I still wanted it. I purchased it ahead of time and drove 23 miles to pick it up. When I got there. They took it off the display and showed me the scratch marks on the back plate and the slab of adhesive they used to keep the tablet connected that they couldn't peel away. Then I noticed that the label says tf201!!!! Mother [email protected]#ker!! The employee that said that they had one available mistakenly thought that that was the tf700 because it was so similar!!! The employee explained it to me and apologized. I said I drove for 45 mins to get here and was assured that you guys had the tf700!!! I was very upset. The guy was scared and looked around... finally he found one in the store!!! It was reserved for someone else that paid online. I ended up with a new tf700 and not a display model!!! Lol Apparently the person that ordered online had cancelled his order after checking the system and I was very fortunate to come out of BB with a brand new tf700!! So far loving the new toy.
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How is internet browsing faster? Thats my problem with the prime sluggish.
LOVE IT
This is what I was expecting when I bought Prime. GPS and Wi-Fi work great. Screen crisp and clear. Camera takes really good pics. Had 2 primes, both had terrible picture quality. Gone into settings a few times and did update check, won't show one. No biggie, I'll d-load and push. Rooted fine.
Only complaint is, battery doesn't last as long as primes did.
Overall, very pleased. Especially since I had best buy damage warranty and they gave me Infinity free.
This is what the prime should have been! WFI,GPS, works. Had it for 24hrs, so far so good
I never really had problems with my prime (except bad GPS and pixels), but I exchanged it anyways for an infinity. I have to say the infinity is really what the prime should have been, the screen resolution is amazing, it's fast, GPS works and I even notice better wifi connections. I had to root the prime and tweak the hell out of it to get it to perform anywhere near what the infinity does right out of the box. Oh and its the first asus tablet I've had the does not have dead pixels.
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Hi guys.
I was going to go purchase the TF101 this week, but I am now in 2 minds whether to wait for the 201.
The problem with me is, when I want something, I have to have it like yesterday. The other problem is, when will it be released here in the U.K?
I really don't like waiting, but I also don't want to be getting a device that is going to be crap in 6 months.
Any advice?
P.S did I say I really don't like waiting, lol
Seg
i played with the new transformer prime at my local gamestop and while the processor is really snappy with everything compared to the original and the screen is alot brighter and slightly clearer, i dont think its worth the extra $200. i bought mine for 299 at gamestop on their black friday sale and i couldnt be happier. The original transformer is a great device. personally, i dont see much benefit for me with a new transformer :].
hope i helped out.
oh yea, the new transformer is a little thinner but its not amazingly thinner. overall good product but not worth the upgrade yet especially with all the dev for the original transformer
Kind of money question, if you can get the prime then buy it, its already available for preorder..
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Thanks guys.
The 101 is currently retailer here between £274 to £330. While the 201 is going to be $499 which I believe works out to be £320 roughly. So with that in mind the 101 should drop in price too, but like I say, I really can't wait to get my hands on one. I have spent the last week and a half watching and reading reviews between the Xoom, Iconia A500 and the 101 and just want to get my hands round one of these gorgeous devices having decided to go with the 101.
So I just don't know......lol. Decissions, decissions
I will put money on it that your $499 will turn out to be more like £400. You cant ever do a straight currency conversion between the states and here, taxes are different for a start. The 101 will be no more "crap" in 6 months time than it is today. If it suits you now then buy one, if it doesn't then hang back. There will always be something newer and better just round the corner so you would never buy anything if you always waited on the latest.
FWIW the last update to the 101 pretty much sorted everything right out. The issues I have with it now are so minor they aren't worth mentioning. ICS when it comes will probably just break everything again so I am in no hurry for it.
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I will put money on it that your $499 will turn out to be more like £400. You cant ever do a straight currency conversion between the states and here, taxes are different for a start. The 101 will be no more "crap" in 6 months time than it is today. If it suits you now then buy one, if it doesn't then hang back. There will always be something newer and better just round the corner so you would never buy anything if you always waited on the latest.
FWIW the last update to the 101 pretty much sorted everything right out. The issues I have with it now are so minor they aren't worth mentioning. ICS when it comes will probably just break everything again so I am in no hurry for it.
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Thanks man.
I have only just in the last few days decided to go with the 101, but obviously with the imminent 201, this kinda got me thinking. I didn't know there were any real issues with the 101 as, like I say just decided within the last few days and so, haven't really got round to reading the threads yet. Yeah it would be nice to have the latest and greatest, but that never comes without issues. I would be more than happy with the 101, pretty much fallen in love with it and thats without even handling one yet.
Like I said though, I just didnt want to purchase something that will be obsolete in 6 months.
I think you have just made my mind up though V8Code......I'm gonna get the 101.
Can you tell me the advantages to rooting the 101? I previously had the HD2 and the Galaxys S2. I used to flash different roms on the HD2 more or less every week. The Galaxy S2 I only rooted though to play Tegra 2 games.
Thanks
Seg
Asus said they plan to keep the TF at $399 as like a "lower end" model with the TFP at 499 / 599 as the high end premium model. If you can i would recommend forking up the extra because it is newer, quad core and should get updates for longer. If not there is nothing wrong with the transformer as it is.
I'm a bit of of an A/V person and chomping at the bit to get a Prime. It's told it has much better A (sound quality) and V (better video). Also, the prospect of plugging in a USB drive and playing Blu-Ray rips. That's just nerdvana.
Anyway, bump on the stability of the latest release. Everything is very good. I agree ICS will probably jack it up, but I'm going to take it regardless.
I'm in the market for both at the moment (my brother wants a TF101).
Get the 201 !!
Check this out
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/11/asus-transformer-prime-review/
Well thanks for all the advice guys. Well I couldn't wait could I. Just ordered it tonight, going to pick up tommorrow. Yippeee, can't wait.
Thanks again
Seg
Seg2012 said:
Well thanks for all the advice guys. Well I couldn't wait could I. Just ordered it tonight, going to pick up tommorrow. Yippeee, can't wait.
Thanks again
Seg
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Where did you preorder it in the UK?
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Where did you preorder it in the UK?
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Sorry mate. I should have been a bit more clear. I ordered the TF101 not the 201.
Sorry
Seg
I had exactly the same thing in mind. I wanted the prime, but I think it will land at £499 which is way too rich for my blood. I bought the tf101 last week for £279.99 from play.com.
So far I'm fairly happy, although at times it seems less responsive than my defy running cyanogen. I am looking forward to the ics update... And the potential for cm9.
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I had exactly the same thing in mind. I wanted the prime, but I think it will land at £499 which is way too rich for my blood. I bought the tf101 last week for £279.99 from play.com.
So far I'm fairly happy, although at times it seems less responsive than my defy running cyanogen. I am looking forward to the ics update... And the potential for cm9.
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Well i have got mine. Even better to see it for real. So far very happy. Turned on and instantly wanted to update. Not only once but twice. Now on 3.2.1. So far so good, just setting everything up.
Seg
I just bought the TF101 for my wife's birthday in November. Got it on Craigslist w/ the dock for $375 and 8 month left on the warranty from Best Buy. It was a bit of a disappointment running a version of Prime. I just flashed Revolver 3.9.5 and it seems to be a bit more promising, but still not as fluid as I expected. Things should get better with ICS, as phones did with going to Gingerbread from Froyo. The biggest drawback in seems to be playback of 1080p video. I know netbooks have a problem with this, and its asking a lot from a tablet to do this as well. But i have a GoPro Hero 2, and it would be great to view what you shot skiing on a tablet with out it being choppy to the point of being un-watchable. So if the prime is up to this with its Tegra 3 processor, the TF101 is back on the market. If not, the TF101 is just like our SGS phones vs. the SGS II. Good enough to make the skip to the next generation bearable.
My rule of thumb is almost always get yesterday's model. You can get it for cheaper and it is just as good. If you always for today's model, then you will never be happy because tomorrow's model will be here in just a few short months.
I don't plan on ditching my TF101 anytime soon. And even if I finally decide to get a newer model, I will still keep this one. Beside my phone, I've never had anything else that's travels everywhere with me like the TF.
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Sorry mate. I should have been a bit more clear. I ordered the TF101 not the 201.
Sorry
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Oh, OK. No problem
Does anyone know if the prime can handle HD videos better, I struggle to play mkv files even at 720p on the transformer, it plays avi files fine in dice player. But not mkv.
i have just ordered the Tf101.
the prime may have a better processor but at the moment its Sd card slot is disabled and it only has 1 speaker, unlike the previous model which has 2.
dont worry about HD playback, there are various apps on the market that cna play back 1080p HD video even if the native app cant.
your basically paying around £100 extra for the tegra 3...
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Does anyone know if the prime can handle HD videos better, I struggle to play mkv files even at 720p on the transformer, it plays avi files fine in dice player. But not mkv.
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I have got Toy Story 3 720 running nice, just need the audio now,lol
Hello,
I am about to buy a Xoom, the Prime has too many problems for now.
I was watching a video on browsing the web on a Prime (ICS) and could not see any differences with the Xoom running ICS too.
Here is the video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdCqKSG1x6s
So here is a question for the actual Xoom (with ICS) owners : what do you think about this video, does the Xoom perform the same when browsing the web ?
Thanks !
I think that with ics xoom has be come a new talet, but that is only what ive heard and read i have not tried ics myself personally
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I think tablets are becoming like PC's. You don't need the newest core i7 to run most trivial tasks on windows 7 lag free.
You don't need the prime to have a smooth internet experience, use 99.9% of the apps on the market, or in general use ICS smoothly. Do you want the IPS screen + the 1080p support? If so then buy the prime if you desire those things.
I think you are all right. To do web browsing, the Tegra 3 does not seem to perform better than the Tegra 2 (at least, this is what I can see when checking the youtube videos, I couldn't test for real as the Prime WIFI problem nether let me try it in a computer shop !), and that's a surprise as the 5th core of the Tegra 3 was told to be increasing the web browsing experience.
I will not be playing with my tablet, not displaying 1080p videos (not even 720p), if I watch videos they will be small size ones.
All I want to do is browsing the web, displaying photos, modifying Excel / Word files, and in rare case using the tab as a GPS.
But I'm a bit disapointed by ICS : even with a Tegra 3, web browsing is not as smooth as on an ipad.
I don't want to talk about IOS / Android differences, we all know them (I don't want to buy an iPad, I prefer using Android), but I need something perfectly smooth and for now ICS still isn't. I know that Android applications may not be smooth because a lot of them are developped with no Google programming rules respects (so many apps are laggy...) but I was expecting ICS to have all the basic applications such as the web browser to be so well optimised that they could be as smooth as on the ipad.
If anyone else could give me its opinion on how browsing the web does perform on the Xoom compared to the Prime, I would be happy ...
Thanks !
Browsing with ICS on my Xoom is better than HC. Still not totally smooth, though, to be honest which dissapoints me. I just bought a half-priced Lenovo K1 for the grandkids, and it felt just a bit smoother on HC than Xoom on ICS.
But the Xoom works great with ICS, has strong GPS and WiFi (better than Prime and K1), and half the price of the very flawed Prime. Can't imagine why anyone would buy a Prime given all its problems, and it's going to be obsoleted soon anyway.
Not trying to stir up stuff - I almost bought a Prime, and am very glad that I missed Amazon's first pre-order.
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If anyone else could give me its opinion on how browsing the web does perform on the Xoom compared to the Prime, I would be happy ...
Thanks !
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I owned a prime and switched to the xoom. I like the Xoom much better because everything works. I had issues browsing with the prime because of the terrible wifi. The hardware in the prime is bad and the connection is unreliable. Aside from the wifi issues, the browsing experience would be very comparable. The prime is not enjoy faster browsing the web. So, the fact that it suffers from wifi connection issues made the choice a no-brainer for me. I grabbed a xoom and I have no regrets. I also saved $100.
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I owned a prime and switched to the xoom. I like the Xoom much better because everything works. I had issues browsing with the prime because of the terrible wifi. The hardware in the prime is bad and the connection is unreliable. Aside from the wifi issues, the browsing experience would be very comparable. The prime is not enjoy faster browsing the web. So, the fact that it suffers from wifi connection issues made the choice a no-brainer for me. I grabbed a xoom and I have no regrets. I also saved $100.
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Same situation. I had tried two Prime before returing it for the Xoom. Same as you I had saved well over $100 and All of my hardware is working as it should.
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Hello,
I am about to buy a Xoom, the Prime has too many problems for now.
I was watching a video on browsing the web on a Prime (ICS) and could not see any differences with the Xoom running ICS too.
Here is the video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdCqKSG1x6s
So here is a question for the actual Xoom (with ICS) owners : what do you think about this video, does the Xoom perform the same when browsing the web ?
Thanks !
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I own both the Xoom and the Prime... not really comparable... the Prime is much faster / smoother and has a better screen.
Don't get me wrong the Xoom is still very nice.. but there is a reason I handed my wife the Xoom and got a Prime for myself
Thanks to all of you. I made a choice : I am now a Xoom owner since a few hours ...
For now I am a bit disapointed as I live in France and there we don't have the possibility to update to ICS yet ... 3.2.1 is quite laggy and slow, I don't like it a lot. But I do really like the Xoom physical design, excellent (just a bit heavy but that's OK).
Just root it and flash stock ICS (stacre) or EOS nightly build. You won't regret it.
just returned my prime because of light bleed, no gps and bad wifi.
Considering the xoom as well, because of the price. Then perhaps upgrade later this year.
How is the battery of the xoom (with ICS) compared to the Prime? almost the same?
Only two things im concerned about is screen quality and battery. Well I know the Primes screen is much better, but is the Xooms screen bad?
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Only two things im concerned about is screen quality and battery. Well I know the Primes screen is much better, but is the Xooms screen bad?
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Its not bad, its just a standard LCD screen.
When compared to an IPS screen on a transformer, xyboard, iPad, or nook tablet you can really see the difference and I'll admit, I get somewhat jealous of those screens.
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Only two things im concerned about is screen quality and battery. Well I know the Primes screen is much better, but is the Xooms screen bad?
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why don't you just try the xoom in a shop? Battery is really fine, should be really hard to drain it in less than a day...
about the display: the contrast is a little low, everything else is okay. If you don't place it right next to a device with a better screen, you won't notice it, at least I don't.
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just returned my prime because of light bleed, no gps and bad wifi.
Considering the xoom as well, because of the price. Then perhaps upgrade later this year.
How is the battery of the xoom (with ICS) compared to the Prime? almost the same?
Only two things im concerned about is screen quality and battery. Well I know the Primes screen is much better, but is the Xooms screen bad?
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Haven't tried a Prime but the Xoom has really surprised me in a positive way, especially since ICS custom roms became available. It really is a great device - a tad on the heavy side but unless you're walking around with it all the time you'll hardly notice. Long lasting battery and screen is good in full daylight and in complete darkness.
Så bare tag en Xoom
im gonna give Prime another try, if I can get a replacement within a few days.
only thing im concerned about going for Xoom is the screen now.
Look at this comparison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aEMEtxB4q2M#t=166s
Xooms screen is NOT good (colorwise)! Especially not when I have the Galaxy S2 with AMOLED aswell.
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I went for the Xoom!
Im happy. The Prime is of course a better tablet if everything worked from the start, but when Im spending what is like 900 us dollars on a tablet (Danish taxes included = highest in the world) it has to REALLY awesome and flawless..
The xoom i got for like 300 us dollars (2nd hand), almost as new, really surpriced me. With ICS, and overclocked to 1.2-14 on stock voltage, its really nice!
I can live with the screen quality. But my next tablet will have an OLED screen, so I'm guessing I will look into Samsung later this year.
My advice is. Go for the Xoom if you can find it cheap, and money for value is an issue. Go for the Prime if you dont care about money and is willing to RMA it alot if youre not lucky.
Hello Xoom owners!
I am considering joining your crowd, and unfortunately, I cannot get in with the Staples deal. Would you mind answering a few questions for me ?
1) How is ICS official release shaping up for you, any nagging issues or lost functionality?
2) I've found a used Xoom (wifi, ics) at the same price (~$330) as a new Transformer TF101. There are dozens of comparisons, I know, but I can't get over the fact that the local B&M's seem to have more than a few open box asus returns due to issues. That being said should I consider getting the xoom at this point?
3) Have any of you experienced any long-term reliability issues? I've searched and searched, and it seems somewhat few and far-between. Big things I am after is stand-alone GPS performance, and screen with minimal light-bleed.
4) Forget xoom completely, and wait? But for what?
Many Thanks
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1) How is ICS official release shaping up for you, any nagging issues or lost functionality?
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So, one of the big perks with the Motorola Xoom is it's easily unlocked bootloader. This gives you the obvious advantage of NOT having to run the stock software. If just running stock is more what you're into, I would look at other options in the field, personally.
Current ICS based roms, however, have fleshed out very nicely for our device. There doesn't appear to be any lost functionality or issues and I've been quite happy since I started flashing them. Speed seems as good, if not better and my fantastic battery life just keeps getting better.
2) I've found a used Xoom (wifi, ics) at the same price (~$330) as a new Transformer TF101. There are dozens of comparisons, I know, but I can't get over the fact that the local B&M's seem to have more than a few open box asus returns due to issues. That being said should I consider getting the xoom at this point?
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Can't say I'm crazy about the Transformer, but that's just me. The only real selling point it has over the Xoom, as far as I can see, is the ability to attach the keyboard. Personally, if that's something I really needed, I would have looked into an Apple Air (or a beefy netbook).
3) Have any of you experienced any long-term reliability issues? I've searched and searched, and it seems somewhat few and far-between. Big things I am after is stand-alone GPS performance, and screen with minimal light-bleed.
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Long term, no. I was a day-one 3g model adopter and some of those fresh off the assembly line models had some questionable build issues. Mine, for example, would made this odd creaking noise if you applied any pressure to the left side of the screen and the seam between the speakers/camera and the component cover was a little squishy if I were to press it the right way.
So I took mine back to Verizon and my replacement was flawless That is, until I dropped it in the fountain the atrium at work while trying to avoid hitting some kids running around, and the thing stopped working. Thankfully, Verizon sorta had my back and we hopped on a call with Motorola and the Verizon CSR more or less strong armed Motorola into giving me a free replacement.
4) Forget xoom completely, and wait? But for what?
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I can't say what to wait for, but you are looking at picking up a device that has been discontinued. It has, in my experience, great performance and I don't personally plan to replace mine for at LEAST another year or more. If you're OK with that, you'll be getting a lot of tablet for the $300 mark, even if it's not the top of the line model.
My guess is the Xoom will still be a solid option for another 12-18 months for those who don't need to have the super-duper top of the line everything. Sure, there will be a few games that will work better on new hardware, but the core of what you would use a tablet for would likely not benefit from newer models in that time frame.
^ Thank you, that is what I wanted to hear.
I don't see much value in the latest and greatest thus far, and though it feels like I am overpaying at this point (considering other member deals), I do feel the reliability and community support is there.
And the stand-alone GPS is fantastic.
I am looking to get into this tablet as well any tips I should know before buying ???(I have a hook up at staples getting the display )
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I am looking to get into this tablet as well any tips I should know before buying ???
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Like I said above, the biggest think to remember is that you would be buying a device that has been discontinued. So in very short order, it will be extremely hard to find chargers, docks, cases, etc as most places will have liquidated their inventory. My tip would be to make sure you buy anything you even think you may want for this thing when you buy it.
The only thing that I don't like in the Xoom is the screen which has some ghosting effect with some colors.
Compared to my Galaxy S2 screen it has a lot less quality, but at least it doesn't hurt eyes of you use it for a long time (amoled screens seem more tiring to me).
Materials are very good, it is very solid and ICS is amazing.
If you have ever seen a tablet with Honeycomb... forget about that! Ice Cream Sandwich is a lot faster, smother and stable.
Asus Transformer has a better screen (as far as I know, I have never seen it) but worse materials.
And not only it has not official ICS. It doesn't even have a decent ICS custom ROM.
If you are lucky to get Xoom for a good price it's awesome, ICS feels so smooth
One thing about the Transformer 1 is that the screen is better except for a huge amount of light bleeding. I returned mine for that reason and got the Xoom. Very happy with it.
Consider the Samsung Galaxy or the Transformer Prime. I got the Prime and its good, quad core, thin and a very good screen with no light bleed. Best buy here has them in stock.
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Same type of performance, but this screen is freaking awesome. So love this guy. Acer used to remind me of low end crap. Not with guy. Best choice I have made in a long time.
Glad to hear your pleased with the device, with demandarin selling Asus so hard over there I'm surprised you made the switch . Hope you enjoy it as much as I do, backing up my blue rays now with bated breath!
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I currently have Prime and thinking about selling to get either this or Asus Infinity. Haven't made up my my mind yet. The biggest turn off for me with A700 is the lack of any upgrade (except screen) over A510.
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Check out the benchmarks I posted in the general section and make your own decision. The information presented there is as unbiased as it gets
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Agree. Absolutely amazing. Finally back at Android again after having some really bad experiences with the prime. Bought an iPad 3. Was impressed by the screen but missed the Android OS. Feel like I'm back home Impressive screen, nice performance. My only gripes:
Screen sensitivity : even at the highest sensitivity setting it fails sometimes to register some taps .... Guess i need to get accustomed to this and tap a little harder. Then again...
Rendering of web pages: in general web pages look awesome, but on pages with a lot of text and/or graphics you see the dynamic rendering of the fonts/graphics to a higher resolution. Sometimes you need to wait before things are readable.
But all in all, a great tablet.
I'm glad to hear you guys are enjoying it. The one concern I had was screen brightness...any issues there to report? I don't really plan to use it outside.
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I'm glad to hear you guys are enjoying it. The one concern I had was screen brightness...any issues there to report? I don't really plan to use it outside.
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The auto-brightness doesn't seem to work terribly well. Seems to put the screen "dimmer" than I personally care for.
I reset it to a static "30%" brightness or so, and it's fine for me now.
I did go out in direct sunlight (beautiful day out), to test screen readability. Cranked up to 75% and was good to go.
Hope this helps.
I am thrilled with the screen of my acer. I have always hated Acer products, and I have lots of tablets. But this tab is freaking great. Real solid build. Cant say enough about the screen. Just overall, the best Tab I have ever had...
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I am thrilled with the screen of my acer. I have always hated Acer products, and I have lots of tablets. But this tab is freaking great. Real solid build. Cant say enough about the screen. Just overall, the best Tab I have ever had...
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Good to hear. I have a 16GB Gtab 10.1 right now and my biggest gripe is the screen resolution and storage. It sounds like this is a bargain at $450.
What about responsiveness?
Lag?
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I had fears of lag too from the YouTube video that was out pre release. While I was syncing the first 12 hours there was some noticeable delay. Especially with app drawer. But 36 hrs in I can say its as snappy as I would expect it to be, especially for 450 and a 10 to 11 hour battery life. Can't beat the performance for the price
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Hows the cameras?
With a good light situation (outside for example) the cam is fine.
Inside pictures seem to be a little grainy.
I'm noticing a lot of lag using ezPDF Reader Pro. I almost considered returning it to Acer until I saw the 25% restocking fee. I've been using an iPad 1 for the last few weeks to view Army regs in PDF format, and the iPad was much quicker at page-turns, etc.
One of the YouTube reviews talked about a possible update from Acer to optimize performance. Pure speculation, I'm sure, but that would be nice. I also heard that the Andriod OS isn't optimized for quad-core processors yet.
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I'm noticing a lot of lag using ezPDF Reader Pro. I almost considered returning it to Acer until I saw the 25% restocking fee. I've been using an iPad 1 for the last few weeks to view Army regs in PDF format, and the iPad was much quicker at page-turns, etc.
One of the YouTube reviews talked about a possible update from Acer to optimize performance. Pure speculation, I'm sure, but that would be nice. I also heard that the Andriod OS isn't optimized for quad-core processors yet.
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If the reviewer got the test unit from Acer, perhaps that was said to avoid upsetting Acer and future test units? Seems the Tegra 3 gpu was not intended for such high res displays, based on benchmarks compared to the A5X. Not seeing how this can be fixed by software, unless the actual data is downsampled to lower the load on the GPU (defeats the purpose of the high res, but would people really notice?).
Hi Shielders,
I'm in the market for an 8 inch class tablet and the Shield 32 GB right now is leading the pack in my analysis. I'm curious to get feedback from owners as to whether you (as users) would recommend it for me based on my needs and use case:
Requirements: 8 inch-ish form factor (check) LTE (not just wifi) (check), at least full HD screen (check) and microUSB support (check)
The thing is, I'm not a gamer, other than the occasional angry birds type thing.
So I'm a bit concerned a game-optimized tablet might possibly be the wrong choice. Mostly I'll use it for web surfing, forum reading, and other general uses. Looking for reasonable battery life, quick response, and a generally good user experience. Prefer stock android or light skin.
I'll be using it on ATT, in places with good or at least adequate ATT signal but no wifi. I hate tethering things to my phone... it gets hot and the battery dies quickly!
So, unless I want to spend $500-600 on a top end Samsung tablet, the Shield 32GB LTE looks like my best bet.
I'm a bit worried that it is out of stock lots of places, presumably either discontinued or nearly so... But I think I can still get it at Frys.
I appreciate any feedback or insights that owners/users could give me! Thanks!
Marc
I am not a gamer either...other than the silly Android games... I love this tablet for what I use it for which like you is surfing the web and stuff. I have had no issues with it other than the latest update has caused the apps to optimise at every start up....but I rarely power it off so not a big deal to me. I do have a controller and HDMI cable and have used both without any hiccups. The controller is great to play beach buggy blitz on the TV! I have watched movies via the HDMI. I find the battery life to be good for my usage...but as stated I am not playing power consuming games. I have the WiFi only version (16GB) and found that wasn't much space even with an SD card so I rooted and remove some stuff I don't use...like Trine2. But with 32 gigs you should be OK.
Thanks!
Is there any buzz about a new version of this tablet? It being about a year old I wonder if something new is just around the corner... Or is nvidia exiting the tablet market?
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Love the Shield tablet lte
I would highly recomend the lte version, for 100 extra you get double the storage and lte and its unlocked! I have great battery on it and usally really good reception. I would just recommend do all the updates before you strart really using the tablet. My only complaint was after i bought it compusa had a closing down sale and they had them at 50 percent off at the end. But even at full price, WORTH IT!
since you are asking...
DO NOT BUY THIS CRAP
I own one and suggested a friend to buy one too.
you can get all the pros from all the reviews in youtube but here comes the truth ( in my case and opinion)
Battery is a joke, with light use, the battery will last less than 8 hours, so be sure to plug it in the car, office, while biking, in the park, and carry a couple of the battery packs.
Do not open chrome. period.
make sure to shut down, wait 1 min then turn back on at least 2 times a day or it will be sluggish and laggy
the good part is that sometimes it does it by itself.... the shutdown part ( good battery)
get ready to RMA, I have done it 3 times and my friend 4 or 5
My RMA
1. Screen flickers
2. RMA had a dark screen, next to another shield tablet both with the brightness at 100 mine was noticeable darker, like if the slider was at 80
3. RMA had a less darker screen but with yellow tint.
My friend.
1. Battery expanded, it popped open the back cover.
2. rma had a dark screen
3. rma had same dark screen with yellow tint
4, same tint
5. waiting on the response of the next rma due to dark / yellow tint
It might be just bad luck, but...
Ughghg. I was just about to order one, as I had no real negatives to doing so. Now this. And since it's end-of-life RMA will probably be a pain.
Back to the search. I'd be curious to hear from others how robust their own experience with the hardware has been. Practical battery life, screen, etc...
My use will be light. Typically less than an hour of interaction time with it a day, no gaming. I'd expect any tablet to last a week or two like this (my old 10.5" Samsung Tab 2 <wifi> goes several weeks on a charge, with <30 mins use per day, often zero use).
Marc
About the issues.
To be fair, im probably one of the lucky ones that got a perfect unit. But as for lag and any software issues, just make sure you are up to date on the latest update. If your on 4.4 it will work great but 5.0 was terrible, 5.02 was better. 5.1 is so much better! Battery is pretty good, lte does affect stand by time. You can always throw it into airplane mode or turn it off. Ive seen the horror stories of bad units,but i dont know how often that is happening. We are in a forum where bad and good get written about. So grain of salt even with my praise of it. Average screen on time for me runs probably 5 to 6 hours with chrome and about 30 percent brightness and on wifi. It works for me, i upgraded from a second gen nexus 7 and then a lte ipad mini retina. I bought the unit from gamestop and with the way thaey do returns it was once i gave them the money it was mine. But really i love the shield tablet, i have the shield portable and planning on the new shield tv box with 500gb hdd, but they gave the ps4 a media player so really iffy on that. So thats my 4 cents? Since i posted twice.
I read online reviews at places like Newegg and so on... it seems that a lot of people have problems with this unit. I'm putting on hold my plan to buy one while I do more research. They cost $400 from reputable sellers like Frys right now. I found it cheaper from some individual sellers or small fly-by-night places (techatrone etc.) but particularly with the problems reported I don't want to take a gamble with ability to RMA.
I may just buy something with a less exciting screen while I await price drops on models with better screens.
I'm actually surprised there aren't a lot of choices in the ~8" WITH LTE class... at least, not that work on ATT.
The search goes on.
Thanks all for your inputs!
I have a lte version since release and never had any problems with it. 6 hrs sot not gaming though. Was always fluent and snappy and now on 5.1 it is better than ever. I wouldn't hesitate a second when I had the choice again.
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I have a lte version since release and never had any problems with it. 6 hrs sot not gaming though. Was always fluent and snappy and now on 5.1 it is better than ever. I wouldn't hesitate a second when I had the choice again.
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Thanks for the input.
I've gotten really frustrated looking for a tablet. The Samsung ones are feature-rich but locked down boot loaders and trouble rooting lollipop on the ATT version really turn me off. And the LG G Pad F has a weak screen by comparison.
The Shield is looking good, specs wise... I'm reconsidering buying one from a reputable vendor so I can RMA in case of trouble... The search continues but I'll make a decision this week most likely!
Did you look at the Dell?
Which dell? They have an LTE model that is rootable?
I looked at the Venue 7000 8" model but I don't see a variant with LTE. Am I missing an option somewhere?
I absolutely need LTE service for this tablet.
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I took another look at Dell... there don't seem to be any 8" LTE Android models.
After much consideration, I've ordered a Shield 32GB from Frys. Hopefully I'll be lucky and get one without build problems. I will try it out for a week and RMA it if it doesn't work out.
It's amazing that in the 8" class, there are few devices that aren't massively bootloader locked.
Marc
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I took another look at Dell... there don't seem to be any 8" LTE Android models.
After much consideration, I've ordered a Shield 32GB from Frys. Hopefully I'll be lucky and get one without build problems. I will try it out for a week and RMA it if it doesn't work out.
It's amazing that in the 8" class, there are few devices that aren't massively bootloader locked.
Marc
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As long as you root it and make a few modifications... you should enjoy it!
Make sure you update to 5.1 and unlock the bootloader before you get going. Then you can install recovery and root any time you feel the need.
I've had a good experience with mine so far, except I did RMA because my case had crack, but the RMA process was as good as can be.
The replacement is in perfect condition, and I didn't have much trouble transferring to the new one, so I guess I got lucky.
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I took another look at Dell... there don't seem to be any 8" LTE Android models.
After much consideration, I've ordered a Shield 32GB from Frys. Hopefully I'll be lucky and get one without build problems. I will try it out for a week and RMA it if it doesn't work out.
It's amazing that in the 8" class, there are few devices that aren't massively bootloader locked.
Marc
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FYI, 5.1 is not available via OTA anymore until they re-release it after fixes. If you want it, you'll have to do via custom recovery. I just got my RMA (at no fault of the hardware, just software issue on my part) and it came with 5.0.1 and that's the latest for me. I checked the system updates multiple times through the day with no luck on this 5.0.2 that I have read others mentioned.
I advice you LTE version for 32GB storage. Pen is quite good, but not good at all because the tablet hasn't a real digitalizer. Very good for normal users (about 6h screen with Wifi surfing Internet, writing mails and taking photos.. not tested with LTE). Accessories are expensive but I like Shield Cover for its magnetic feature. I advise you this tablet, against Samsung ones, but you should see also Nexus 7 2013 LTE and LG GPad ones. Nvidia doesn't optimize Android system, and sometimes there are moments when the tablet is too slow, but only for a little time.
So far I'm enjoying my Shield 32GB LTE. Works great on AT&T (once I got past the activation fiasco), and it's nice and smooth for me on Android 5.01. I'm not yet rooted or anything non-stock. I'm getting ready for a vacation, so even if a 5.1 update came today, I wouldn't apply it until my return. I'm keeping things nice and stable for the next couple weeks!
I also got the ProCase. It's working fine. I was a bit concerned about the metal clasp scratching the screen, but it doesn't seem to harm it. The design of the case seems to prevent that challenge.
Marc
Have also the 32Gb lte version. As a tab its great and im enjoy using it. Only downside & a really big one is the build quality and build materials. It's my second one after rma the first one because of cracks near the sim & sd slot. The one i have now got also after a whie 1 crack near the sim slot, then some weeks later the second near sd slot. And now 7 months later i have a lot of them and most are near openings of the tab(sd, sim, hdmi, stylus...). I decided to not rma again, cuz im sure it would happen again.