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Nexus S 345MB Ram ?

Hello,
Can anyone please explain the situation.
There are only 345 MB of total ram available.
Is this same for you all Nexus S owners too? Shouldn't it be 512 MB?
I'm using CM7 Nightly #18.
I noticed this before, but I didn't care about it. However an explanation could be better.
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I think the additional ram is fornthe OS. The 345 is what is available for apps.

the others 177 mb are for the gpu

reserved for gpu

The other RAM is used for the system, graphics, the drivers to run, the launcher, etc.

Hm ok. Thank you all.

Hmm. So why i have 400+ ram on galaxy tab?
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panpreza said:
Hmm. So why i have 400+ ram on galaxy tab?
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Nexus S != Galaxy Tab

I know it ofc that my question why galaxy tab has more free ram compare 2 ns and galaxy s
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panpreza said:
I know it ofc that my question why galaxy tab has more free ram compare 2 ns and galaxy s
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...because the Galaxy Tab has different specs and its not a phone?

Hmm. Tab is also phone. Same specs as Galaxy s
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panpreza said:
Hmm. Tab is also phone. Same specs as Galaxy s
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Pardon? The Galaxy Tab is indeed not a phone and is running a different Android version, OS skin, hell everything from the Nexus S.
Nexus S Specs
1 GHz ARM Cortex-A8 processor, PowerVR SGX540 GPU, Hummingbird chipset
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Galaxy Tab Specs
ARM Cortex A8 processor, 1 GHz processor; PowerVR SGX540 graphics
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Now, I'm not up and up enough on the technical names for processors etc. to say that those aren't the same but to my eyes there is clearly a difference. Not to mention the lack of a cell radio in the Galaxy Tab rendering it not a phone.
Different hardware has different requirements for memory.

I mean i can use Tab as phone also not that Tab is only big phone
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panpreza said:
I mean i can use Tab as phone also not that Tab is only big phone
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People who don't root in the U.S. can't use it as a "phone."
A tablet is a tablet, even if it can make and receive calls, its not a phone.
In this case, I might as well call my computer a "phone" because I can make calls via Google Mail Voice.

zephiK said:
In this case, I might as well call my computer a "phone" because I can make calls via Google Mail Voice.
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Have you looked into a case with belt clip for it?
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panpreza said:
Hmm. So why i have 400+ ram on galaxy tab?
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There could be a range of different factors that can make that happen.
1. The amount of gpu reserved memory is set as a boot kernel parameter. So the galaxy could have less memory reserved for the gpu.
2. The galaxy could have dedicated gpu ram, instead of shared from the main memory. That's the best guess, since it's a bigger device with more room for hardware components.
3. Could also have less reserved memory at boot and the drivers/libs could use some of the user space memory.
The list go on.

zephiK said:
People who don't root in the U.S. can't use it as a "phone."
A tablet is a tablet, even if it can make and receive calls, its not a phone.
In this case, I might as well call my computer a "phone" because I can make calls via Google Mail Voice.
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It has a GSM capability where you can receive "real" calls and texts... a computer makes calls with an app via internet, not GSM.

mbolinao said:
It has a GSM capability where you can receive "real" calls and texts... a computer makes calls with an app via internet, not GSM.
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I don't get your point on how this is relevant as well as bumping sold thread going out of topic.
a tablet isn't a phone. That's the end of the story, it can make calls using voip or whatever tricks but a tablet isnt a phone.
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zephiK said:
I don't get your point on how this is RELEVANT as well as bumping sold thread going out of topic.
a tablet isn't a phone. That's the end of the STORY
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WE don't get your point too mister-wanna-be-techwiz: posting 'tablet vs phone' in a thread asking about 'RAM'?? you started this so-called "irrelevant story" LOL.

mbolinao said:
WE don't get your point too mister-wanna-be-techwiz: posting 'tablet vs phone' in a thread asking about 'RAM'?? you started this so-called "irrelevant story" LOL.
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Actually, no, he didn't. He is in fact not the OP of this thread. A tablet is a tablet, not a phone. If it were a phone, they'd have called it a phone. 'A rose by any other name..' Call it a phone, it's still a tablet. This thread is about RAM and there not being 512mb as per usual. I've learned my lesson about throwing out unnecessary insults, perhaps you would do well to learn the same?
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Possibly a new Gaming Phone from ZTE

Came across this on my Google Reader feeds! Thought I'd share!
http://www.talkandroid.com/121936-z...idForums+(Android+News,+Rumours,+and+Updates)
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Not to sound like a butt, but I have always thoughts of ZTE phones as bargain basement junk, then again it doesnt mean a company cant turn itself around quality wise. I will keep an eye out to see what ZTE has coming out in 6 days for the "gaming phone"..... thanks for sharing

jgregoryj1 said:
Not to sound like a butt, but I have always thoughts of ZTE phones as bargain basement junk, then again it doesnt mean a company can turn itself around quality wise. I will keep an eye out to see what ZTE has coming out in 6 days for the "gaming phone"..... thanks for sharing
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My first Android was a ZTE(ZTE Blade) Bargain basement sure, but surprisingly good, I wouldn't call it junk, I only got rid of it because I got an upgrade and the screen was a bit too narrow

Same info just expanded.
http://recombu.com/news/zte-gaming-phone-incoming-xperia-play-slayer_M18142.html

humm I think I wont risk to buy anymore gaming phones. Bought the Ngage and it sucked, bought the Xperia Play, well it didnt suck but still not what I was thinking it will be... I'll probably buy the OUYA, a gaming console with android
OUYA Specs:
•Tegra3 quad-core processor
•1GB RAM
•8GB of internal flash storage
•HDMI connection to the TV, with support for up to 1080p HD
•WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
•Bluetooth LE 4.0
•USB 2.0 (one)
•Wireless controller with standard controls (two analog sticks, d-pad, eight action buttons, a system button), a touchpad
•Android 4.0
OUYA Price: $99 (yeah!!!)
you can find more info here: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console

Actually, I'm really looking forward into this. I always hoped that XPlay would be so popular that it would start a "gaming smartphone competition" between other manufacturers (imagining gaming phones from Samsung or HTC).
If ZTE attracts more popularity with its future gaming phones, let's hope others will start producing same type of phones as well in the future (as Sony said they aren't planning on doing an XPlay 2).

I´m interested in this device. However, i´m sceptical if ZTE does it right. Here in Germany, they only released Low-Budget Smartphones and Tablets with Singlecore. Of course they also announced powerful phones with Tegra 3 but they didn´t say anything about a western release date.
So, i will wait till the next week. If ZTE has something good in the works and they release it in the western market, i will consider it the next time when i buy a new smartphone.:good:

look amazing !!!! i'll buy that
dam sony , i wish sony hear us and make next generation of gameing phone , quad core , regra 3 ...
sony , sony , sony , why never hear our request

I don't want an gaming smartphoone i want an gaming smartphone from sony i just love the idea of playstation phone

wonder if sony has a patent for the xperia play that says only they can have a phone with these buttons or something
Could anyone (ZTE for example here) just come along and make a better phone (processor/GPU/RAM wise) and use the same button scheme? When you think about it, there really isn't anything special about the Play. It's basically a regular Android phone but it just has extra buttons.

@typikal82
Maybe when they participate in the Playstation Certified Program, they can use the official Playstation button layout. Would be awesome if something like that happens!
Don´t know if more companies are interested in making a gaming smartphone since the Xperia Play didn´t sell well.

vokal1992 said:
humm I think I wont risk to buy anymore gaming phones. Bought the Ngage and it sucked, bought the Xperia Play, well it didnt suck but still not what I was thinking it will be... I'll probably buy the OUYA, a gaming console with android
OUYA Specs:
•Tegra3 quad-core processor
•1GB RAM
•8GB of internal flash storage
•HDMI connection to the TV, with support for up to 1080p HD
•WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
•Bluetooth LE 4.0
•USB 2.0 (one)
•Wireless controller with standard controls (two analog sticks, d-pad, eight action buttons, a system button), a touchpad
•Android 4.0
OUYA Price: $99 (yeah!!!)
you can find more info here: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console
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What's the point? Any tablet or smartphone with hdmi connection and with psx controller it's an android gaming console.
Just another piece of metal with limited functionality.
One device that rules the all others. That's the future.
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typikal82 said:
wonder if sony has a patent for the xperia play that says only they can have a phone with these buttons or something
Could anyone (ZTE for example here) just come along and make a better phone (processor/GPU/RAM wise) and use the same button scheme? When you think about it, there really isn't anything special about the Play. It's basically a regular Android phone but it just has extra buttons.
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I think AT MOST, SONY have patent to using the 4 logos on the buttons. There's nothing stopping other companies from using "1,2,3,4", or "A,B,X,Y" or any other button-labeling schemes, and then physically locate the buttons in the same places and allow software mapping to "emulate Xperia PLAY mode".
HOWEVER!! A gaming phone from ZTE will never have as much appeal as Sony, to attract the average game devs to write games for. And most certainly, ZTE don't have a heavy-weight brand like "Playstation" to even start talking to Top-budget game publishers/studios.
But in the end... where the hell is SONY when all this is happening!? Bloody hell, Sony, wake up!

ZTE can use 6 main button (( for example A,B,C,X,Y,Z )) with L,R ,start ,sllect

WebNavigator77 said:
What's the point? Any tablet or smartphone with hdmi connection and with psx controller it's an android gaming console.
Just another piece of metal with limited functionality.
One device that rules the all others. That's the future.
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ok... tell me where can I get a tablet with those specs and a game controller with free to play games for that price.

Wait. What does this have to do with the play? Oh nothing. Yeah, figures. Another useless thread clogging THE WRONG FORUMS.

agraceful said:
Wait. What does this have to do with the play? Oh nothing. Yeah, figures. Another useless thread clogging THE WRONG FORUMS.
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Maybe because it's about a possible new gaming phone, y'know, like the Play. It could rival the Play if it's true and has good specs, especially since a lot of of people (myself not included) want a Play 2. So it's pretty relevant for us Play owners
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I'm interested, but halfway expecting that it'll fall into the pile of barely supported physical controller add-ons that, at best, work with 20% of Xperia Play's games.
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vokal1992 said:
ok... tell me where can I get a tablet with those specs and a game controller with free to play games for that price.
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But you would need a phone still for day to day, so would it not even out. Plus can't take the console out with you on the move.
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Could be great. If it does what the play does and more (and works with all games optimised for the play), I'd be happy. Ive been thinking about my next device (although I'm gonna be sticking with the play for a while) and I'm not too sure cause ive only recently started playing FIFA on my play and love it. Touchscreen gaming is inferior, especially for FIFA as ive figured when trying to play with my tablet. This could be my next phone.....
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Motorola Razr i announced!

Most interesting spec would be it's 2GHz Intel processor and an edge to edge screen.
Motorola Razr i XT890
Specs:
CPU: Intel Atom Z2460 @ 1.3GHz
Boost to 2GHz
GPU: PowerVR SGX 540 @400MHz
Radio: XMM6260 baseband (HSDPA+. no LTE)
Screen: 4.3" qHD Super AMOLED Advanced
Edge-To-Edge screen
Battery: 2000mAh battery (20 hr usage time)
OS: 4.0 ICS (upgradable to 4.1 Jelly Bean "soon" )
Camera: Illuminated 8MP rear camera
HDR capable
H.264 Baseline 1080p @ 30fps with AAC 44.1kHz audio
LED flash
Camera startup in <1 second
Burst of 10 shots in <1 second
0.3MP front camera
Media playback: 1080p @ 30fps for H.264/VC-1
720p @ 30fps for MPEG-4
D1 @ 50/60fps for H.263
AAC, AAC+, AAC+ Enhanced
AMR NB, AMR WB
MIDI
MP3
PCM
WAV
WMA (v2, v7, v8, v9, v10)
FLAC
OGG/Vorbis
WLAN: 802.11a/g/b/n (2.4GHz/5GHz)
Mobile Hotspot (up to 8 connections)
Bluetooth: Class 1, Version 2.1+EDR
Memory: 1GB RAM
8GB flash memory
5GB user avaliable
microSD card expansion
Connectivity: 3.5mm
USB 2.0 HS
DLNA
NFC
Location Services: aGPS (assisted)
Standalone GPS
eCompass
Available in a variety of carries in the UK and Latin America
Unlockable Bootloader (Subject to region and carrier restrictions)
Build: Splash guard coating
Kevlar back
Gorilla glass
Aircraft-grade aluminium
60.9mm x 122.5mm x 8.3mm
126g
Comments:
The CPU base clock will be at 1.3GHz, and will boost if thermal headway is available, to 2GHz. Think of Turbo Boost in desktop Intel CPU.
The Razr i will ship in October to select European and Latin American markets, including the UK, France, Germany, Argentina, Brazil and Mexico.
Radio information:
Code:
HSPA+ Rel.7, Cat 14/Cat6 (21Mbps DL/5.8Mbps UL)
2G Quad-Band 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; GPRS EDGE Class 10
HSPA+/UMTS Tri-Band 900/1900/2100 MHz (I/II/VIII)
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I'm pretty excited being a Motorola fan, but wonder if this'll help Intel take off at all. The switch from ARM architecture could be a pain too many for devs
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Here's a hands-on of the device.
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From my naive point of view, this seems very exciting. Finally, some competition to ARM, and able to get 2ghz, none the less! I know very little about how Atom compares, though; hopefully the experts will get a good look at it.

Pretty good specs, though I doubt I'll buy it. Next thing I'm buying is GS4 or Note 2.
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Funny how this gets less attention then the previous moto launch. I think this launch is more ground breaking.

True. This is pretty ground breaking.
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Wow... and I reall like the size too. Coul be finally a worthy succesor for my old Desire

x潮騒x said:
Wow... and I reall like the size too. Coul be finally a worthy succesor for my old Desire
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I'll either get this or the Razr HD Maxx. Now it just depends on the level of developer support.

Fantastic Phone
I am amazed with the spec. 2GHz.... Netbooks are barely 2Ghz. It's not about how many cores, but the rate at which it processes data, which perhaps might be better than any Quad-core phone out there. This might be my next phone [if it comes to my carrier].

x潮騒x said:
Wow... and I reall like the size too. Coul be finally a worthy succesor for my old Desire
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My thoughts exactly when saw it yesterday
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I wonder if Ubuntu will jump on this opporunity to run on X86 phones instead.

GPU is kinda dissapointing
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Would it be possible, at least in theory, to install and run Windows XP, 8 , Ubuntu or any full-fledged x86 OS on this phone? I wonder since it's an x86 processor, and it has everything it needs to comfortably run a full desktop OS...

^ I wouldn't bet on that. Windows would need an ntfs/FAT file system as opposed to extX that come on these phones, but could THAT be done? Well, only time will tell...
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ajslave said:
^ I wouldn't bet on that. Windows would need an ntfs/FAT file system as opposed to extX that come on these phones, but could THAT be done? Well, only time will tell...
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Dual boot from SD card?

alexanderlll said:
Would it be possible, at least in theory, to install and run Windows XP, 8 , Ubuntu or any full-fledged x86 OS on this phone? I wonder since it's an x86 processor, and it has everything it needs to comfortably run a full desktop OS...
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Thats what I'm wondering, but if it has a locked bootloader it may be hard to do. If someone could port a GRUB style bootloader it may be possible. But I don't know how Windows would react to a non IBM-PC style system which lacks a traditional BIOS. It would probably be easier to get x86 Ubuntu running first since Android is Linux based.

spunker88 said:
Thats what I'm wondering, but if it has a locked bootloader it may be hard to do. If someone could port a GRUB style bootloader it may be possible. But I don't know how Windows would react to a non IBM-PC style system which lacks a traditional BIOS. It would probably be easier to get x86 Ubuntu running first since Android is Linux based.
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The phone will come with an unlocked bootloader.
I too am considering this phone as a replacement to my old HTC Desire.
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Here are the most in-depth reviews that I've found so far:
Techradar
Expertreviews
Cnet
It's looking like quite a solid mid-range priced phone.
A few critical thoughts so far:
I'd like to be able to customise the lockscreen apps, at the moment these are fixed to: Camera, Messages and Call.
I'd like to be able to access quick settings from the Notification bar so I don't need to close an app to get to these.
I'd like to be able to auto focus the camera by half pressing the dedicated camera button.
Needs the latest Android version ASAP.
4G LTE would be nice but I can understand that's asking a bit much at this stage.

I have the original razr xt910 and im moving to sgs3 and will never buy a moto phone again no matter what it has or good it is I'm done with moto.
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razielpr said:
I have the original razr xt910 and im moving to sgs3 and will never buy a moto phone again no matter what it has or good it is I'm done with moto.
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Any particular reason? Did you have a bad experience with the xt910?
I think the sgs3 is a tad too big for me.

HP Slatebook x2 - MOST POWERFUL GAMING ANDROID TABLET EVER?!

http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho...us/en/pc_cons/higher_asp/slatebook_x2/buynow8
Processor
NVIDIA® Tegra® 4 T40S with Intel HD Graphics (1.8 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache)
Graphics
Intel HD Graphics 4000
An Android tablet with Intel's HD 4000?!!!
This could mean some SERIOUS gaming performance, on par with PC class discrete graphics cards.
The one thing I'm worried about is app compatibility.
Can anybody verify? Does anyone have benchmarks?
If not, I'm returning my N7v2 very soon and will find out for myself!

No this can't be right. Why would a nVidia Tegra 4 use Intel graphics. It's like an oxymoron.
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Tw1tchy said:
No this can't be right. Why would a nVidia Tegra 4 use Intel graphics. It's like an oxymoron.
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I realize it's completely backwards.
I just spoke with an HP salesperson on their website. They confirmed that it does indeed come with the HD 4000. I also asked them about app compatibility, and they said there will be no issues whatsoever (but I'll have to see for myself.)
HOLY CRAAAAP I'VE NEVER BEEN THIS EXCITED ABOUT AN ANDROID TABLET BEFORE!
Tegra 4 CPU + Intel HD 4000 = FASTEST, MOST POWERFUL ANDROID TABLET EVER!
And the fact that NO ONE is talking about this is just weird! THIS IS THE BIGGEST NEWS FOR ANDROID!

Geodude074 said:
I realize it's completely backwards.
I just spoke with an HP salesperson on their website. They confirmed that it does indeed come with the HD 4000. I also asked them about app compatibility, and they said there will be no issues whatsoever (but I'll have to see for myself.)
HOLY CRAAAAP I'VE NEVER BEEN THIS EXCITED ABOUT AN ANDROID TABLET BEFORE!
Tegra 4 CPU + Intel HD 4000 = FASTEST, MOST POWERFUL ANDROID TABLET EVER!
And the fact that NO ONE is talking about this is just weird! THIS IS THE BIGGEST NEWS FOR ANDROID!
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The spec sheet that you can download on the HP site does not have Intel graphics listed but in the main spec list on the store front clearly has Intel listed for graphics. I wish HP would clarify this...even if it turns out to use the Nvidia GPU its still a beast of a tablet. I'm waiting on reviews and/or availability in retail stores to teat it out. Very interested though

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The spec sheet that you can download on the HP site does not have Intel graphics listed but in the main spec list on the store front clearly has Intel listed for graphics. I wish HP would clarify this...even if it turns out to use the Nvidia GPU its still a beast of a tablet. I'm waiting on reviews and/or availability in retail stores to teat it out. Very interested though
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Thank you! Finally someone else who understands how REVOLUTIONARY this is!
For the CPU, spec sheet says: Nvidia T40S, 4-Plus-1™ Quad
Could the "Plus 1" mean the Intel HD 4000?
Edit: No, I just found out it doesn't.
"The so-called 4-plus-1 processor cores are in fact five ARM Cortex-A15 CPU cores where the fifth core is used largely for power-saving purposes."

Hd 4000 confirmed
I just spoke with an HP Customer Representative:
11:27:11 AM : Me: Initial Question/Comment: HP Slatebook x2 with HD 4000?
11:27:11 AM : Welcome! Our HP Home & Home Office Sales Chat Team serves the US only.
11:27:16 AM : We do not provide product support. We will refer you to HP Technical Support, the HP Parts Store or to non-US sales help.
11:27:16 AM : If you still need US sales or ordering assistance, please stay in queue. Our Sales Chat Representative will be with you shortly.
11:27:31 AM : Michka D. has joined this session!
11:27:31 AM : Connected with Michka D.. Your Reference Number for this chat is 2057637.
11:27:51 AM : Michka D.: Thank you for contacting HP Home & Home Office Sales Chat and welcome to our Back-to-school Sale. My name is Michka.
11:28:01 AM : Michka D.: Can you please rephrase your question and provide greater detail so that I can better assist you?
11:28:24 AM : Me: Yes. On your website, the HP Slatebook x2 is listed in the Specs as having an Intel HD 4000 for a GPU.
11:28:32 AM : Me: But on your HP Data Sheet, it doesn't list the HD 4000 anywhere.
11:28:38 AM : Me: Does it come with the HD 4000 or not?
11:29:26 AM : Michka D.: I'm sorry for the confusion, Me.
11:29:31 AM : Michka D.: Let me check it for you.
11:29:41 AM : Michka D.: I need to check my resources first in order to answer your question. May I place you on hold for 1-2 minutes while I check my resources?
11:29:45 AM : Me: Yes.
11:30:01 AM : Michka D.: Thank you.
11:33:21 AM : Michka D.: I appreciate your patience, I want to ensure I’m getting you exactly what you need. It will just be another minute or two. Thank you for your understanding.
11:33:29 AM : Me: No problem.
11:37:56 AM : Michka D.: Thank you for your patience.
11:38:36 AM : Michka D.: Me, rest assure that the HP Slatebook x2 has an Intel HD Graphics 4000 in it.
11:38:47 AM : Me: Alright. Thank you very much!
11:39:46 AM : Michka D.: Thank you for informing us regarding this, I'll take note of it for them to revise the date sheet.
11:39:55 AM : Me: Thank you once again!
11:40:31 AM : Michka D.: You are welcome.
11:40:41 AM : Michka D.: Are you in the market today in purchasing the HP Slatebook x2?
11:40:48 AM : Me: Not today, but soon. Thank you!
So yes, because of Me (rofl) they will be revising their Data Sheet soon on their website!
THIS IS THE FREAKING NEWS OF THE CENTURY FOR ANDROID GAMERS!!!!

Ok so no Intel graphics that's fine. I always thought it was a little odd...anyways now we need to know when and where this will retail in physical stores!
All I know is that someone that speaks English needs to do a comprehensive review of this tablet on YouTube. For a device that has been trickling out world wide there HAS to be someone reviewing it and/or bench-marking it. SOMEONE PLEASE!

As far as i can see it has nvidia graphics (which would be logical), you can see that at the comparism page of HP
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/x2/compare.html

atg284 said:
For a device that has been trickling out world wide there HAS to be someone reviewing it and/or bench-marking it. SOMEONE PLEASE!
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Hi, not found a lot of benchmark right now except this one from a french web site : pcworld.fr/tablettes/actualites,benchmark-nvidia-tegra-4,540295,1.htm
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Hope this will be usefull.

Lionem said:
Hi, not found a lot of benchmark right now except this one from a french web site : pcworld.fr/tablettes/actualites,benchmark-nvidia-tegra-4,540295,1.htm
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I asked "bartchilders" on this site: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57596068-94/hp-launches-android-based-slatebook-pc/
Here are his benchmarks: Quadrant score: 12919 - AnTuTu score: 27666

HP Clearly mentioned HD4000 in specs. I am planning get one.
$479 fot a 10.1 tablet with keyboard is a lot cheaper than competition.

lilgamesh said:
HP Clearly mentioned HD4000 in specs. I am planning get one.
$479 fot a 10.1 tablet with keyboard is a lot cheaper than competition.
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HP has fixed their spec page now. It does NOT come with Intel graphics..which is fine...what is more concerning is that the rest of the world gets 32 GB and 64GB internal storage variants and the US so far only has a 16GB listed. That would prob give us 8-10 usable GB for apps and DRM videos which is not much. Come on HP bring the bigger ones to the US!
See this HP forum post for more info on the 32/64 GB versions: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Androi...X2-32GB-Internal-version-spotted/td-p/2822377

The performance on this tablet is superb. It definitely beats my asus infinity tf700 (still have) and nexus 10 (which i've returned) I don't see any lag or stutter and this is what android tablets should be. Which I can't say the same about the tf700 even with cromi x rom or data2sd mod. The nexus 10 has some stutter issue as well although not as bad. Now I did have wifi issue on my first unit but HP replaced it and sent me one overnight. No more wifi issue on this one. The only gripe I have is the screen does not have a high contrast like my tf700 and it has a warmer tone to it. Also cannot get as bright as the asus. I wish though that HP went with a higher res screen as when I connect to my TV via HDMI it either zooms in too much or I can change my tv setting to "fit" but I have black bars on the side. But it is very smooth on my tv and lag and stutter free. My infinity lags when connected to my TV. Also the rear camera is crap but I never use tablet cameras anyhow. Build quality is pretty good. Keyboard is great but lacks a unlock button. But the multitouch mousepad is great. I can pinch to zoom or do anything I can do with the screen. I really hope Asus' new infinity pad will perform as well as this as this may just be a place holder till they release it.

If you buy from HP LOOK FOR COUPONS.. I got for $455

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HP has fixed their spec page now. It does NOT come with Intel graphics..which is fine...what is more concerning is that the rest of the world gets 32 GB and 64GB internal storage variants and the US so far only has a 16GB listed. That would prob give us 8-10 usable GB for apps and DRM videos which is not much. Come on HP bring the bigger ones to the US!
See this HP forum post for more info on the 32/64 GB versions: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Androi...X2-32GB-Internal-version-spotted/td-p/2822377
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The good thing is it supports 64gb card. Just put my Sandisk ultra 64gb class 10 and I can see it whether its in the tablet or dock.
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The SD card does stick out about 1mm so that may not be good.
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Anyone know if there is any development for this device. just ordered it with 64G SD. Hopefully we see some root or development
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toanau said:
Anyone know if there is any development for this device. just ordered it with 64G SD. Hopefully we see some root or development
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I'm wondering the same but haven't found one anywhere even outside xda. Wonder if the slate 7 root method will work. Have to find that thread again. How did you get a 64gb version? I wanted a 32 but could only find a 16gb version on hp.com.
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aznmode said:
I'm wondering the same but haven't found one anywhere even outside xda. Wonder if the slate 7 root method will work. Have to find that thread again. How did you get a 64gb version? I wanted a 32 but could only find a 16gb version on hp.com.
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I don't think we should expect soon some development on the HP SlateBook X2 : we're not able to connect it to a computer...

aznmode said:
I'm wondering the same but haven't found one anywhere even outside xda. Wonder if the slate 7 root method will work. Have to find that thread again. How did you get a 64gb version? I wanted a 32 but could only find a 16gb version on hp.com.
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I am sorry. I meant I purchased a 64G SD along with the device.
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toanau said:
I am sorry. I meant I purchased a 64G SD along with the device.
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Got it. Totally misunderstood what you said.
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That's what I'm afraid of. Since the tablet is only 16gb I need to be able to use Folder Mount or maybe GL to SD and both require root
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[SPECS] All about Acer Iconia Tab 8 A1-840

I got this new tablet, it´s the HD version of the Acer Iconia Tab 8 A1-840. I did some research but I didn't find anything about it, except for this guide of how to root it http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/guide-root-acer-iconia-tab-8-a1-840fhd-t2933317
The tablet is an alternative to the Dell Venue 8 or the Asus Memo Pad 7 ME176C, and it has a great price. Also, it's shape is equal to the A1-840FHD.
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Full Specifications:
Device Model: A1-840-103Z (at least the one I have)
Device Name: ducati2hd
Display: 8" IPS 1280x800 display panel
Density: 213ppi
Android Version: KitKat 4.4.4
Kernel Version: 3.10.20
UI: Stock Android based ROM with some few Acer modifications
GPU: Intel HD Graphics
CPU: Intel Atom Z3735G @1.33GHZ up to 1.8GHZ
CPU Cores: 4
CPU Architecture: x86
RAM: 1GB (885MB) DRR3
Internal memory: 16GB (9.85GB available)
Micro SD Port up to 32GB
Micro HDMI Port
Micro USB Port with OTG Support
Rear Facing Camera: 5MP
Front Facing Camera: 1MP
Bluetooth: 4.0
GPS: Yes
G-Sensor: Yes
Vibrator: Yes
Proximity Sensor: No
E-Compass: No
Light Sensor: No
LED: No
100MB Swap
Price: $120-$160 dollars (couldn't find it's original price :silly
Recommended?: Hell Yeah!!
Stock firmware and drivers: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/drivers
I noticed that the files inside the update.zip of the firmware are not compressed into .img files, like in a ROM, so I might soon create the first custom ROM which could be flasheable in stock recovery .

kitkat 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 ?
Are you sure your android version is 4.4.4 ? What time you get an update ?

Yes it's 4.4.4 and Acer has not given any date, but they said Lollipop will be released for some devices.
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This was at Costco for $150.00 but with RAM 2 GB and a WUXGA 1920x1200 screen.They give the battery a Wh rating: 17. It seems to be a credible replacement for a dead Nexus 7 I have. With the better screen and the micro SD card slot. I wanted to write reviews last week but couldn't find anywhere to do it because this version is not out there yet.

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This was at Costco for $150.00 but with RAM 2 GB and a WUXGA 1920x1200 screen.They give the battery a Wh rating: 17. It seems to be a credible replacement for a dead Nexus 7 I have. With the better screen and the micro SD card slot. I wanted to write reviews last week but couldn't find anywhere to do it because this version is not out there yet.
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I also saw this at Costco but a bar code scan did not 0887899841224 return any information about it.
My question is about the 32 GB micro SD card slot.
Is that strictly hardware limitations or can it be increased with a custom rom flash?
It would NOT read my 64 gb micro SD card when I took it from my phone and tried it on the display unit.
My beloved Asus tf101 Transformer is finally dying after so many years.
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rbaucom said:
I also saw this at Costco but a bar code scan did not 0887899841224 return any information about it.
My question is about the 32 GB micro SD card slot.
Is that strictly hardware limitations or can it be increased with a custom rom flash?
It would NOT read my 64 gb micro SD card when I took it from my phone and tried it on the display unit.
My beloved Asus tf101 Transformer is finally dying after so many years.
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I'm sorry I can't really help you with that. I took them at their word and picked up a 32GB card. It would be great to be able to step up to 64GB though. Also I am not able to move data from a jump drive straight to the tablet. It needs to be unlocked for that to occur.
All in all for the price, its a nice deal.

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I'm sorry I can't really help you with that. I took them at their word and picked up a 32GB card. It would be great to be able to step up to 64GB though. Also I am not able to move data from a jump drive straight to the tablet. It needs to be unlocked for that to occur.
All in all for the price, its a nice deal.
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Thank you for responding so quickly. Is there an actual product number from the literature that it came with?
The reviews that I looked at are over a year old and I do not believe it's the same item as they said the screen was only ok. I looked at the screen and wow that's vivid and nice.
Is the bootloader locked?
You think we will be able to root it? Custom rom it?
My Asus tf101 transformer tablet was built in 30 March 2011.
It currently has an outstanding development person that has a KITKAT 4.4.4 that's outstanding fast.
Faster than what it shipped with, AND he's working on the 2nd or 3rd version of lollipop.
On the fence here, thinking Asus or this tablet.
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rbaucom said:
Thank you for responding so quickly. Is there an actual product number from the literature that it came with?
The reviews that I looked at are over a year old and I do not believe it's the same item as they said the screen was only ok. I looked at the screen and wow that's vivid and nice.
Is the bootloader locked?
You think we will be able to root it? Custom rom it?
My Asus tf101 transformer tablet was built in 30 March 2011.
It currently has an outstanding development person that has a KITKAT 4.4.4 that's outstanding fast.
Faster than what it shipped with, AND he's working on the 2nd or 3rd version of lollipop.
On the fence here, thinking Asus or this tablet.
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There aren't any reviews of this model out there only for the 1 GB RAM and a lesser screen. Here are a couple of pictures from the box. The safety instructions and such are pretty generic. (Sorry they are upside down.I am left handed and when I grab my phone camera I always take pictures upside down.)

ongre12 said:
I'm sorry I can't really help you with that. I took them at their word and picked up a 32GB card. It would be great to be able to step up to 64GB though. Also I am not able to move data from a jump drive straight to the tablet. It needs to be unlocked for that to occur.
All in all for the price, its a nice deal.
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Well I got one anyway. Waiting for download package to download and install.
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Icona Tab 8 A1-840FHD_2Cws_L16T at Costco
I use SwiftKey but it sometimes has problems with Web entries like this.* I would rather use Tapatalk 2, but IMO the company that produced the Tapatalk 2 application in order to force an upgrade to their horrible ad filled product have disconnected the search for servers. I use Titanium Backup already connected with a backup set that hooked up to XDA.
I noticed the root thread at the beginning of the very first post.
but that looks like it involves hooking it up to my pc, so that will have to be tomorrow, or the weekend.

rbaucom said:
I use SwiftKey but it sometimes has problems with Web entries like this.* I would rather use Tapatalk 2, but IMO the company that produced the Tapatalk 2 application in order to force an upgrade to their horrible ad filled product have disconnected the search for servers. I use Titanium Backup already connected with a backup set that hooked up to XDA.
I noticed the root thread at the beginning of the very first post.
but that looks like it involves hooking it up to my pc, so that will have to be tomorrow, or the weekend.
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Tried rooting with kingo on the phone no success. Tried rooting with the thread at first could not get the USB driver to load.
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rbaucom said:
Tried rooting with kingo on the phone no success. Tried rooting with the thread at first could not get the USB driver to load.
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Ok the download package on the first post here would not detect my acer 2gb model. Neither would the acer drivers install. I'll try it on a different pc.
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Has anyone got the 2gb model A1-840FHD-19XL NT.L4JAA.003 rooted yet?
Strike that had to use a different laptop.
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I tried a 64 gb micro SD and it recognized it right away and through es file explorer, let me play videos from it.
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I tried a 64 gb micro SD and it recognized it right away and through es file explorer, let me play videos from it.
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I'll have to reformat mine then.
Have you achieved root?
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The 64gb card worked without root but yes, I have mine rooted now. Used the IntelAndroid-FBRL-01-17-2015 package linked from the first post but then followed some link. Sorry, don't have the link handy right now
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gjunky said:
The 64gb card worked without root but yes, I have mine rooted now. Used the IntelAndroid-FBRL-01-17-2015 package linked from the first post but then followed some link. Sorry, don't have the link handy right now
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It may have been the demo model that had it sd card reader disabled.
I got root. Had to use a different laptop.
I am impressed with the standby abilities of the tablet.
My first thought was let titanium backup this baby and freeze non essential item that are running.
A moment latter thinking, well actually it's doing a great job of not loading the acer software or the other preloaded applications.
Anyone working on lollipop rom?
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rbaucom said:
Well I got one anyway. Waiting for download package to download and install.
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Hello, you may us a 64 GB SD Card that is new on the Acer Iconia a A1-840 FHD Tablet and not one from a Cell Phone as you may know even from some Cell Phone to a Different Brand may not work either, but using a New you can. Also is you get a Powered Micro USB Adapter you may us a USB Hard Drive up to 1 TB or any SSD HD on the Tablet also! I had my Acer Tablet and us without any Trouble what so ever - Alfredo