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Brand New HTC P6500 / Sedna / Sirius - Built In GPS, Tomtom, 1GB Flash, 3MP Camera

HTC SEDNA / P6500 / SIRIUS
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BE ONE OF THE VERY FIRST TO OWN THIS PHONE/PDA!!!
Not Even Available on Expansys - http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=163203
With Builtin GPS, 1GB Builtin Memory, 2 x SDIO Ports, WiFi, Fingerprint Sensor, TomTom V6 and much much more!
Auction Ends: Monday, 17th March 2008 - 21:00:00 GMT
Link Here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=120232843713
Good Luck, Happy Bidding!!!

it's kind of ugly to me...it looks like a game console hhaha

According to PDADB.net the 6500 has the qualcomm MSM7200 graphic controller http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=734&view=1
maybe we can get the graphic drivers from it

uh i wouldn't even take it for free. it's really ugly

"maybe we can get the graphic drivers from it "
if htc dident want to pay for the qualcomm driver
for their other devices whats make you think they will
start with this one?

Rudegar said:
"maybe we can get the graphic drivers from it "
if htc dident want to pay for the qualcomm driver
for their other devices whats make you think they will
start with this one?
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Point taken. Maybe the license is for a single model. Can never say with the big corporations. I mentioned this as I saw it on www.pdadb.net that it uses the graphic accelerator provided by Qualcomm.

Looking at how the TomTom software runs,
I can say its a lot more smoother than the TyTN in that infamous youtube video
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJWAu6IRe4 )
I'll try and compare my Hermes with the Sedna tonight and get it up on youtube when i get back from work if you guys want.

snudel said:
uh i wouldn't even take it for free. it's really ugly
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HAHA. I'm glad I'm not the only one.

its not that ugly! may be a bit bigger than the usual pda...

I had it in my own hands at Cebit in Germany and it's really huge! You can't compare it to a standard-sized modern pda-phone. It's rather a barcode scanner-sized pda and one of the ugliest I ever saw. The technology is nice though.

Rudegar said:
"maybe we can get the graphic drivers from it "
if htc dident want to pay for the qualcomm driver
for their other devices whats make you think they will
start with this one?
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It all depends on the licensing terms. Its possible that HTC has the rights to install the drivers on a certain number of model because of what they paid. If they paid more for the license, they'd probably be able to get it on one more model.

Technical Data for P6500;
Microprocessor, Chipset
CPU: Qualcomm MSM7200 (Chipset)
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Width of Machine Word: 32 bit
CPU Clock: 400 MHz
CPU Core: ARM1136EJ-S
Instruction Set: ARMv6
Graphical subsystem
Display Type: color transflective TFT
Display Color Depth: 16 bit/pixel (65536 scales)
Display Resolution: 240 x 320 (76800 pixel)
Display Diagonal: 3.5 " (89 millimetres)
Viewable Area: 2.1" x 2.8" (53.4 x 71.2 millimetres)
Dot Pitch: 0.2225 millimetre/pixel
Graphical Controller: Qualcomm MSM7200
Compare to the data sheet for the Kaiser:
Microprocessor, Chipset
CPU: Qualcomm MSM7200 (Chipset)
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Width of Machine Word: 32 bit
CPU Clock: 400 MHz
CPU Core: ARM1136EJ-S
Instruction Set: ARMv6
Graphical subsystem
Display Type: color transflective TFT
Display Color Depth: 16 bit/pixel (65536 scales)
Display Resolution: 240 x 320 (76800 pixel)
Display Diagonal: 2.8 " (72 millimetres)
Viewable Area: 1.7" x 2.3" (43.2 x 57.6 millimetres)
Dot Pitch: 0.18 millimetre/pixel
Additionally, the Sirius is being specifically marketed as a platform that can support a variety of job-adapted and specific applications- maybe they decided it was worthy of the video drivers? *hopeful*
The P6500 definately has something that the Kaiser does not in the graphical subsystem management department. I hope we can use this to fix the kaiser

Another one on ebay...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=150230332492&Category=3312
Anyone care to buy to dump the ROM? I would if i had the money

standbackiamcrazy said:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=150230332492&Category=3312
Anyone care to buy to dump the ROM? I would if i had the money
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Dump the ROM! Dump the ROM!

for god sake, please
DUMP the ROM.... or point me to somebody who has this phone

I'm fairly certain the reason behind the no-drivers thing is actually Broadcom. Their patent (link: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6847686.html) over video acceleration in mobile "convergence devices" is the source of an injunction (pdf link: http://www.broadcom.com/docs/press/12-31-07_Permanent_Injunction_Order.pdf ) against Qualcomm. The injunction specifically names the MSM7500 and 7200. Qualcomm would only make the situation worse by releasing software that enables these features when it currently isn't even enabled. Is the P6500 being marketed in the US? If it's not, maybe that's why they're enabling the acceleration in it and not other models.

honestly i dont think it is being offered in the us, the only retailers i have found -- all coorporate btw--- have been from italy and from the u.K (branded to the 0range network i think). I have also heard of it being sold in india aswell.
This is probably why it is so darn difficult to get a hold of

www.htcphonestore.com has it.

sswalia said:
honestly i dont think it is being offered in the us, the only retailers i have found -- all coorporate btw--- have been from italy and from the u.K (branded to the 0range network i think). I have also heard of it being sold in india aswell.
This is probably why it is so darn difficult to get a hold of
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It is generally available SIM free unlocked in the UK, even high street retailers have it in on tottenham ct road in london. Plenty of online places have it as well without Orange tie ins
I've had one for about a week for evaluation and it isn't too bad and isn't as bis as some people seem to make out (smaller than say an opened E90).

sswalia said:
for god sake, please
DUMP the ROM.... or point me to somebody who has this phone
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This phone needs its own forum which has been asked for on several occasions. If it does I'll dump thje ROM etc off mine

[Q] Choosing an Android phone w/ keyboard: Desire Z/G2 or Droid 2 or other ??

I have to change my phone and my only req. is a hardware keyboard.
I've been a hardcore, diehard Windows Mobile user for over a decade.
I feel forced to go Android because WP7 smells sort of iPhone-esque clone (no file access, no multitasking, no cut/paste, etc...)
To my surprise, I've found there aren't quite a lot of Android devices with keyboard out there
Fortunately, I've seen a couple of interesting soon-to-be-released phones:
The HTC Desire Z / T-Mobile G2 and the Moto Droid 2 WE (world edition) / Milestone 2
Both will have Froyo 2.2, 5MP cam 720p HD video rec, 3.7" multitouch screen & all the standard shizz
G2 / Desire Z advantages:
- It is HTC
- It has Sense onboard, which I am familiar to
Appart from that, and curiously enough, the Droid 2 / Milestone 2 is better in every other aspect:
- Better screen res (854x480 vs 800x480)
- Faster processor (1000MHz vs 800MHz)
- More internal memory (8GB vs 1.5GB)
- Slightly smaller size (60.5 x 116.3 x 13.7 mm vs 60.4 x 119 x 14.2)
- Lighter weigth (169 gr vs 180 gr)
- Slightly bigger battery (1400 mAh vs 1300 mAh)
- Better flash (dual LED vs single LED)
My Q: Which one to go ?? or is there any other device to consider ??
Any advice / oppinion / suggestion appreciated
Data source:
1- http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirez/specification.html
2- http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/X...rvices/Mobile-Phones/ci.Milestone-2-XW-EN.alt

The claim the g2 benchmarks right with the moto so the processor and gpu might be a wash
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squish099 said:
The claim the g2 benchmarks right with the moto so the processor and gpu might be a wash
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You sure ??
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"Stock Droid 2 running Android 2.2 and crushing any phone on the planet in a Quadrant benchmark. That my friends, is real power."
- Droid Life
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/10/droid-2-benchmark-score-drops-jaws/
How could HTC stand such an insult from Moto ??
.

There is benchmark results on androidspin.com
http://androidspin.com/2010/09/09/t-mobile-g2-can-keep-up-with-the-galaxy-s/
Check it out, by the way my hd2 running cm scores 1880 in quadrant.
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squish099 said:
There is benchmark results on androidspin.com
http://androidspin.com/2010/09/09/t-mobile-g2-can-keep-up-with-the-galaxy-s/
Check it out, by the way my hd2 running cm scores 1880 in quadrant.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Thanks for the link !!
Interesting benchmarks...
And you're right:
I'd go for a WM6.5 HTC HD2 if it only had a keyboard...
Anyway it will not be upgradeable to WP7, and as I stated before, WP7 is expected to be as closed as a religious man's mind
.

Android is running great and nand is coming soon. Cotulla posted a bootloader on his web site just waiting for a rom and instructions.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Other Android-with-keyboard option is the "Motorola Flipout"
Besides the QVGA screen res the device is awesome
(image from Mobile-Geeks)

Sony Ericsson X10 Mini Pro?

Obviously some of you guys haven't read up on Adreno 205 GPU that comes with G2 & its MSM&230. Try reading this article first:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...t-compare-to-other-gpus/page__pid__65#entry65
Adreno 205 is going to perform better than PowerVR SGX530 found in Droid X. It may even get pretty close to PowerVR SGX540 found in Sammy's Himmingbird.
Watch out for this table, I'm sure someone will load their Quadrant result as soon as it becomes available:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/

gtrab said:
...I'd go for a WM6.5 HTC HD2 if it only had a keyboard...
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If only. It would be the almost perfect device. What have smartphone manufacturers got against big screen qwertys anyway!??!?
(yeah I know there are a couple but, only a couple! The Z's screen is too small so I don't count this. Samsungs Galaxy S Pro? The Galaxy is being slated due to bugs)
edit: I have to be honest though, i'm waiting for WinPho 7 as it appears, walled garden aside, that it could integrate very will with Zune and my Xbox subscription. If it launches and has full and complete MS Ofice/Exchange integration then its very possible I will jump straight on to a Dell Lightning - assuming it records 720p.

Microsoft's quad-core tablet

So M$ flashed a quad-core tablet at the TechEd conference. Early previews of Windows 8 running Tegra 3 perhaps?
Article courtesy of Tom's Hardware:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Quad-core-Tablet-Windows-8-TechEd-BUILD,13302.html#xtor=998
Move over, dual-core Galaxy Tab. Microsoft's got a quad-core tablet in its arsenal.
Microsoft is currently holding its TechEd conference in New Zealand and where there's a conference there's usually a whiff of upcoming products, too. TechEd hasn't disappointed us, either, as Redmond this week gave attendees a sneak peek at an upcoming Windows tablet that's packing a quad-core processor.
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ZDNet reports that during the company's “Windows device session,” Microsoft Enterprise Strategist Jeff Johnson talked about the company’s tablet strategy and offered those in the audience a glimpse of two upcoming Windows tablets. The second tablet is said to have been thicker than the first and boasted a removable battery, but that's not really much to go on. The first tablet, however, Johnson described as a quad-core Windows slate that the company plans to announce at an upcoming Microsoft event. He didn't say much else, but it was enough to set tongues wagging.
This event Johnson is referring to is thought to be Redmond's BUILD conference set for next month and the device in question is believed to be a Windows 8 device. There's also rumors that Microsoft will be giving units away to paying attendees at BUILD so they could develop apps for Windows 8. September is just around the corner, so stay tuned!
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I hope the price is reasonable, I can afford
Perhaps windows 8 is gelivable

Would you really want to buy a tablet with an unstable, sluggish OS on it? I'm curious to see how the OS performs, even on exemplary hardware.

Niksko said:
Would you really want to buy a tablet with an unstable, sluggish OS on it? I'm curious to see how the OS performs, even on exemplary hardware.
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That's a lot of assumption on a product that's not even out yet. To be honest, windows7 actually runs pretty nicely on regular tablets (not slates) but it's just not finger friendly

this is going to need a lot of battery power?

Niksko said:
Would you really want to buy a tablet with an unstable, sluggish OS on it? I'm curious to see how the OS performs, even on exemplary hardware.
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did you actually read the article?, the devices will run quad core processors, and im sure microsoft has a slimmed and tuned version of windows 8 especially for the tablet devices to further improve it, and real drivers so everything will work
windows 7 runs well, it clearly outperforms windows xp on 800mhz cpu powered netbooks and i know this from personal experience with several netbooks.
windows 8 should be better,MS will most likely use win7 as the base with a finger friendly ui over the top kinda like media centre maybe.
i have been waiting for a real windows powered tablet for a long time, i hope they get it right.

if it has quad core its probably something designed by the likes of intel. please correct me if im wrong, but something to do with how a tegra and the likes (qualcomm, etc) design there chips means they only work with linux based kernels. they use ARM architecture or something??? which i believe windows won't run on, please correct me if im way out, im a little rusty on all this stuff, but yeah...

cliddell93 said:
if it has quad core its probably something designed by the likes of intel. please correct me if im wrong, but something to do with how a tegra and the likes (qualcomm, etc) design there chips means they only work with linux based kernels. they use ARM architecture or something??? which i believe windows won't run on, please correct me if im way out, im a little rusty on all this stuff, but yeah...
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Current version of windows doesnt support arm but microsft have publicily stated that they will support ARM in windows 8
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Hopefully the OS is built up around touch and mobility, and isn't just a desktop OS with a touch UI slapped on top.

seboj said:
Hopefully the OS is built up around touch and mobility, and isn't just a desktop OS with a touch UI slapped on top.
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They were showing up metro ui few weeks ago.
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had a dream last night i was playing wow on a windows tablet wonder if it will come true lol

ph00ny said:
They were showing up metro ui few weeks ago.
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M$ should've bought up the team behind Rainmeter's Omnimo series to design the new Windows 8 touch UI.

Windows file explorer 8 is everything but touch friendly. The ONLY thing touch friendly is the home shell with the panels.

Windows 8 will support SoC with ARM instruction set. And Windows 8 is the first step of mobile/tablet OS consolidation

Niksko said:
Would you really want to buy a tablet with an unstable, sluggish OS on it? I'm curious to see how the OS performs, even on exemplary hardware.
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eh... Aren't you an android user?

I don't like Windows 8 Explorer although it's may be more convenient!
//off
WP7 is awesome and my next phone will be a WP7 phone, soon!

con ga pc said:
I don't like Windows 8 Explorer although it's may be more convenient!
//off
WP7 is awesome and my next phone will be a WP7 phone, soon!
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The functionality of Windows 7 with the interface of WP7 would definitely be nice.

I wonder what the battery life is like on this thing.

Somehow I just don't see M$ getting this right.

Fedway said:
Somehow I just don't see M$ getting this right.
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In typical M$ fashion, they'll be a day late and a dollar short to the tablet wars.

Looking for new phone

What im looking for is 5 inch or above display sise, 16 million colors, 1GB of ram, Android 4.2 OS, good camera, quad core cpu and should be able to take 2 sims. Any suggestions? Ive found some nice ones on dhgate with 16 million clolors, but only comes with one sim.

saa044 said:
What im looking for is 5 inch or above display sise, 16 million colors, 1GB of ram, Android 4.2 OS, good camera, quad core cpu and should be able to take 2 sims. Any suggestions? Ive found some nice ones on dhgate with 16 million clolors, but only comes with one sim.
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I think you need to take a look at different Chinese smartphones - there're a lot of dual-sim models among them.

Some of China's mobile phone quality is bad.

Augustine02 said:
Some of China's mobile phone quality is bad.
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Not Really, I have the Star N9770 and for the price it is very nice. I am just not happy with the 16000k color screen, but it can play every game on the market, is super fast and with heavy use I get a day and a half on 1 battery, normal use 3 days.

eugenerudenko said:
I think you need to take a look at different Chinese smartphones - there're a lot of dual-sim models among them.
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Yeah for sure, unfortunately I could not find a dual sim with 16 million colors yet, but still looking hard. I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 also, but as I mentioned its sorta pointless for me to have it as I have to carry around 2 phones, so thats the reason why im looking for something that comes close to the S4 with dual sim.

Augustine02 said:
Some of China's mobile phone quality is bad.
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You can say that about any device

eugenerudenko said:
You can say that about any device
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THL phone you heard of it?

Augustine02 said:
THL phone you heard of it?
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Never. But iI'm against generalizing. For example, Oppo or Meizu have great devices.

Try buying hdc galaxy s4
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I would but the htc one it is by far best phone on market right now

it will be Panasonic P51 or Huawei Ascend D2
Google it for more spesification..

thlmobile said:
Oppo or Meizu phone design is very beautiful.
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And apart from design, their best models are really powerful

Nice, thanks to all the replies so far, will look into all the models you guys suggested.

RotiPrata said:
it will be Panasonic P51 or Huawei Ascend D2
Google it for more spesification..
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Both phones soooo sweet, but im in South Africa, so those 2 will cost me a small fortune. For instance I bought a 2011 Macbook pro second hand for about R3000 and each of those will cost me close to R5000 and up, not to expensive considering the Galaxy S4's price, but yeah the wife and daughter is in the front of the line each month. lol.

You can look HERE for info. This is the one I'm using now, Very happy with the performance. The phone is one 3 days old and I've yet to explore it features.

greeny2010 said:
You can look HERE for info. This is the one I'm using now, Very happy with the performance. The phone is one 3 days old and I've yet to explore it features.
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Wow so nice. Fastcardtech reliable?

elvisamy said:
you could consider this mobilphone :star N9589(http://androidexport.com/star-n9589...89-quad-core-android-41-os-wifi-3g-p-408.html).
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Basic Information
Model Star N9589
Band 2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G: WCDMA 850/2100MHz
Sim Card Dual SIM Card Dual Standby
Service Provide Unlocked
Style Bar
Color White/ black
Shell Material Plastic
System
OS Android 4.1.1
CPU MTK6589, Cortex A7 quad core; 1.2GHz
ROM 4GB
RAM 1GB
Screen
Display Size 5.7 Inch
Type IPS capacitive touch screen
Resolution 1280*720 pixels
Screen Color 16 Million Colors
Support Format
Ringtones Type Polyphonic/MP3
Audio File Format MP3/WAV/AMR/AWB
Video File Format 3GP/MPEG4
Image File Format JPEG/BMP/GIF/PNG/GIF
E-book Format TXT/CHM/DOC/HTML
FM Radio Yes, earphone needed
Earphone Port 3.5mm
Card Extend Support TF card up to 16GB extended
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Owning the Star N9770 I am tempted to go this route as im happy, androidexpert a reliable company to buy from?

saa044 said:
Wow so nice. Fastcardtech reliable?
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I received my phone in 2 weeks time and good working condition. However, the spec of the phone is not according to what I've placed. The OS is 4.2.1 instead of 4.2.2 (latest) and phone is also not rooted.
After emails, I've a 4.2.2 from their tech-support. Managed to flash this on my phone and also done the rooting process.
For this company, there are good and bad comments on their style of running. I buy from them as I can use paypal for payment. If things turn up bad, I can always ask for a refund.

Elephone Vowney, MTK6795, 2K Screen, 4GB RAM, Android 5.1, 20.7MP Camera, 4G/LTE

A new high-end flagship is on the way from Elephone - the Elephone Vowney with Windows/Android OS.
It combines elegant design with super specs.
Elephone Vowney is their 2K Flagship 2015. Because of the pretty high specs, the price is also expected to be a little higher than we normally see from Elephone, but the price ratio should be okay.
The model comes in 2 versions. Version A or B. The model offering either Windows 10 or Android 5.0 Lollipop
The specifications:
- 64-bit MTK6795 CPU Octa Core
- Windows/Android OS
- 5.5 inch 2K (2560 x 1440) resolution display
- 4 GB RAM + 32 GB ROM
- Firmware Android 5.1
- Support for 4G/LTE
- Support for microSD cards
- 20.7MP rear camera + 8MP front camera
- Equipped 3850mAh battery
- NFC
- Press touch ID
- Android 5.1 (Lollipop) OS and CM12 Support
- Colours: Black, White & Gold?
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Z3580
I wonder if Version B/Pro will really come with a Moorefield SoC, because not even the ZenFone 2 has a Windows 10 ROM and I think the Imagination GPU doesn't have drivers for Windows.

wall_ said:
I wonder if Version B/Pro will really come with a Moorefield SoC, because not even the ZenFone 2 has a Windows 10 ROM and I think the Imagination GPU doesn't have drivers for Windows.
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This would be amazing if true but exceedingly unlikely: perhaps an Atom X5 doesn't generate too much heat when crammed into a phablet-sized device? I'd pay upwards of $400 for a developer-friendly phablet with Intel HD (Broadwell/Gen8, not PowerVR) graphics. I've been waiting for a Linux-friendly Intel powered phone since before Bay Trail, and I may still be waiting a year from now unless my above fantasy pans out.

I've got Elephone P7000, it is good phone, I am really looking forward to Elephone Vowney phone.

What is the weight of Elephone Vowney
Hello,
I got confused about the weight of this phone, on website says it is 650 grams, then it will be very heavy to carry. So kindly somebody can explain some details about the exact weight of this otherwise excellent mobile.
Is the chip ' 64-bit MTK6795 CPU Octa Core' processor is faster than or equelent to Snapdragon 810?
Thanking You
Dr.saidalavi

I dont think windows rom support is correct. its not memtioned in the highlites
Am wondering about the cm12.1 support. Does this mean the sources will be out?
would be cool if the device tree is reusable to build a pletora of custom roms. Then this can have a device forum right?
would be awesome.
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[email protected] said:
Hello,
I got confused about the weight of this phone, on website says it is 650 grams, then it will be very heavy to carry. So kindly somebody can explain some details about the exact weight of this otherwise excellent mobile.
Is the chip ' 64-bit MTK6795 CPU Octa Core' processor is faster than or equelent to Snapdragon 810?
Thanking You
Dr.saidalavi
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http://tabtec.com/hardware/mediatek-mt6795-goes-head-head-snapdragon-810-geekbench/
dunno about its power efficiency though. may perform better but suck more juice.
for me the lte support would be important as well as custom roms capability

[email protected] said:
Hello,
I got confused about the weight of this phone, on website says it is 650 grams, then it will be very heavy to carry. So kindly somebody can explain some details about the exact weight of this otherwise excellent mobile.
Is the chip ' 64-bit MTK6795 CPU Octa Core' processor is faster than or equelent to Snapdragon 810?
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Dr.saidalavi
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I saw the weight on website but I saw specs on other sites and it shows 169g. I don't think it could be 650g which more than half kg :laugh:

Assalamu Alaikum(Peace from to all), my friend from Pakistan,
I am not differentiating the members of this forum according to their nationality, but for an Indian it is special when a reply comes from his Pakistani brother, that is all
Thank you very much for the reply,
When I read about the weight of the phone in one website, I had a bigger smiley of course on my face, and I thought it may be wrong also, as nobody can carry such a phone with them.I want to confirm it before ordering , otherwise the spec as so impressive, so I am waiting for its release. So your reply is a great assistance to me.
Thanks

Krystyna said:
I've got Elephone P7000, it is good phone, I am really looking forward to Elephone Vowney phone.
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How good is Elephone at putting out updates? Any feeling on how long it will take Elephone to upgrade its phones to Android M?

Sir I told you about the weight. It was mention 650g maybe because of auto correct or spell mistake. I confirmed the weight which is 169g. You can order the phone which is going to release on 20th june.
stay happy
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How good is Elephone at putting out updates? Any feeling on how long it will take Elephone to upgrade its phones to Android M?
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the updates are frequent and quicker because they don't have millions of customer like samsung. If they give M upgrade then you will get before Samsung S6 pretty sure.
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jtwebfusion said:
How good is Elephone at putting out updates? Any feeling on how long it will take Elephone to upgrade its phones to Android M?
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1 - 2 months to update a firmware, I don't know whether Elephone will release Android M firmware.

seems like this one was scrapped. Its not on the official website http://www.elephone.hk/newproduct.html
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bachera said:
seems like this one was scrapped. Its not on the official website http://www.elephone.hk/newproduct.html
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The link is there on website which I cannot post here. The phone will release on 20th of this month.
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abaidurrehman said:
The link is there on website which I cannot post here. The phone will release on 20th of this month.
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I just noticed on elephone.cc that it's now saying the 20th of August for the release date. I suppose that makes sense, at least for the Vowney Pro/version B (the one that dual boots Windows 10 and Android) since Windows 10 isn't supposed to be out until the end of July anyhow. I really hope the Pro has an Atom X5 and US LTE band support, because Elephone is the only OEM so far that has gotten me this close to being excited about my dream x86 developer phone finally being made!

Well, most preliminary information I've seen indicate that this phone will have an Atom Z3580 SoC, which contains a PowerVR GPU. Since I'm unlikely to ever get a phone, even a phablet, with tablet-class graphics, let alone one that has open source driver support for running Linux, I just gave up on getting this one and ordered myself a 64GB/4GB RAM ASUS ZenFone 2 ZE551ML, which should be arriving tomorrow. It may even be cheaper than importing a Vowney Pro at this point. I of course would love to be wrong.

Elephone Vowney is Elephone flagship phone?

They have a dedicated page for it now: http://www.elephone.cc/elephone-vowney.html
I wish it wasnt soo big! I want a 5.2" device....come one people!

they give a discount to the people who bought one of the first 5000 elephone p8000 without led.
Did we know anything about, did we know when it will be out?

Doesnt look like this will work with ATT due to bands right?

How is Windows going to run on that SoC?