Microsoft's quad-core tablet - General Topics

So M$ flashed a quad-core tablet at the TechEd conference. Early previews of Windows 8 running Tegra 3 perhaps?
Article courtesy of Tom's Hardware:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Quad-core-Tablet-Windows-8-TechEd-BUILD,13302.html#xtor=998
Move over, dual-core Galaxy Tab. Microsoft's got a quad-core tablet in its arsenal.
Microsoft is currently holding its TechEd conference in New Zealand and where there's a conference there's usually a whiff of upcoming products, too. TechEd hasn't disappointed us, either, as Redmond this week gave attendees a sneak peek at an upcoming Windows tablet that's packing a quad-core processor.
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ZDNet reports that during the company's “Windows device session,” Microsoft Enterprise Strategist Jeff Johnson talked about the company’s tablet strategy and offered those in the audience a glimpse of two upcoming Windows tablets. The second tablet is said to have been thicker than the first and boasted a removable battery, but that's not really much to go on. The first tablet, however, Johnson described as a quad-core Windows slate that the company plans to announce at an upcoming Microsoft event. He didn't say much else, but it was enough to set tongues wagging.
This event Johnson is referring to is thought to be Redmond's BUILD conference set for next month and the device in question is believed to be a Windows 8 device. There's also rumors that Microsoft will be giving units away to paying attendees at BUILD so they could develop apps for Windows 8. September is just around the corner, so stay tuned!
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I hope the price is reasonable, I can afford
Perhaps windows 8 is gelivable

Would you really want to buy a tablet with an unstable, sluggish OS on it? I'm curious to see how the OS performs, even on exemplary hardware.

Niksko said:
Would you really want to buy a tablet with an unstable, sluggish OS on it? I'm curious to see how the OS performs, even on exemplary hardware.
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That's a lot of assumption on a product that's not even out yet. To be honest, windows7 actually runs pretty nicely on regular tablets (not slates) but it's just not finger friendly

this is going to need a lot of battery power?

Niksko said:
Would you really want to buy a tablet with an unstable, sluggish OS on it? I'm curious to see how the OS performs, even on exemplary hardware.
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did you actually read the article?, the devices will run quad core processors, and im sure microsoft has a slimmed and tuned version of windows 8 especially for the tablet devices to further improve it, and real drivers so everything will work
windows 7 runs well, it clearly outperforms windows xp on 800mhz cpu powered netbooks and i know this from personal experience with several netbooks.
windows 8 should be better,MS will most likely use win7 as the base with a finger friendly ui over the top kinda like media centre maybe.
i have been waiting for a real windows powered tablet for a long time, i hope they get it right.

if it has quad core its probably something designed by the likes of intel. please correct me if im wrong, but something to do with how a tegra and the likes (qualcomm, etc) design there chips means they only work with linux based kernels. they use ARM architecture or something??? which i believe windows won't run on, please correct me if im way out, im a little rusty on all this stuff, but yeah...

cliddell93 said:
if it has quad core its probably something designed by the likes of intel. please correct me if im wrong, but something to do with how a tegra and the likes (qualcomm, etc) design there chips means they only work with linux based kernels. they use ARM architecture or something??? which i believe windows won't run on, please correct me if im way out, im a little rusty on all this stuff, but yeah...
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Current version of windows doesnt support arm but microsft have publicily stated that they will support ARM in windows 8
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Hopefully the OS is built up around touch and mobility, and isn't just a desktop OS with a touch UI slapped on top.

seboj said:
Hopefully the OS is built up around touch and mobility, and isn't just a desktop OS with a touch UI slapped on top.
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They were showing up metro ui few weeks ago.
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had a dream last night i was playing wow on a windows tablet wonder if it will come true lol

ph00ny said:
They were showing up metro ui few weeks ago.
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M$ should've bought up the team behind Rainmeter's Omnimo series to design the new Windows 8 touch UI.

Windows file explorer 8 is everything but touch friendly. The ONLY thing touch friendly is the home shell with the panels.

Windows 8 will support SoC with ARM instruction set. And Windows 8 is the first step of mobile/tablet OS consolidation

Niksko said:
Would you really want to buy a tablet with an unstable, sluggish OS on it? I'm curious to see how the OS performs, even on exemplary hardware.
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eh... Aren't you an android user?

I don't like Windows 8 Explorer although it's may be more convenient!
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WP7 is awesome and my next phone will be a WP7 phone, soon!

con ga pc said:
I don't like Windows 8 Explorer although it's may be more convenient!
//off
WP7 is awesome and my next phone will be a WP7 phone, soon!
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The functionality of Windows 7 with the interface of WP7 would definitely be nice.

I wonder what the battery life is like on this thing.

Somehow I just don't see M$ getting this right.

Fedway said:
Somehow I just don't see M$ getting this right.
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In typical M$ fashion, they'll be a day late and a dollar short to the tablet wars.

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Htc SuperStar with a NVIDIA AP16 chipset!!!

has any one read this and what are your thoughts on it. http://tiltmobility.com/htc-device-specs-leaked-out/
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From one of our many resources hidden deep within the “bush” we bring to you a spreadsheet with some handy info on it… All the specs, names and chipsets of the upcoming HTC releases.
I am very curious about the Star and SuperStar… And I am VERY intrigued by the NVIDIA AP16 chipset.
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well i hope it comes with a keyboard hope just hope. most likely wont. what are your thoughts on this??? I was ready for a touch pro 2 now im not that sure any more.
Saw the same article over at PocketNow. Looks like we're finally getting some nVidia devices. Looks like I'm skipping most of the new phones this year to get that device.
do wish they at least get a leaked pic i wanna see it first 2 see if i should pass the pro 2 or not
Wow, that superstar w/ nVidia is very interesting news!
Wow!!
Interesting news!
Hope soon we can have a look to Superstar and Star
Thanks for sharing,
rip off. way to many phones with similar functions and programs. not forgetting similar issues which has to be solved by xda. but still i love it
That Star looks like the previously leaked Firestone.
Presumably the Star and SuperStar are related - I hope that the SuperStar isn't basically a Star with a keyboard...
Anyway, that's my phone shopping on hold until we find out more about the SuperStar.
The Thoth is 1ghz. The article/leak is from MobilityDigest which is affiliated with fuzemobility.com and tiltmobility.com - it was picked up by a bunch of other sites
aw man, the Nvidia device BETTER have FULL drivers for ALL of the S.O.C. or there'll be hell to pay
to make up for HTC's bull**** over the driver issue, they can make it an Android device to please me.
then i'll forget the whole HTC and Qualcomm in bed whoring incident.
when nvidia Goforce 5500 came build in to o2 xda flame/toshiba G900, everyone is so excited until everyone knows there isnt any supporting doc for developers for nvidia's chip, no one can use it except for nvidia
so what is so excited when they have another chipset but not open for developers?
even until now ppl in flame/toshiba forum are still trying to get this chipset work for some simple video playback on tcpmp
Tabbe said:
when nvidia Goforce 5500 came build in to o2 xda flame/toshiba G900, everyone is so excited until everyone knows there isnt any supporting doc for developers for nvidia's chip, no one can use it except for nvidia
so what is so excited when they have another chipset but not open for developers?
even until now ppl in flame/toshiba forum are still trying to get this chipset work for some simple video playback on tcpmp
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whilst there have been various devices with dedicated (extra) graphics chips like the goforce550 and gofroce6100, this nvidia chip is a SINGLE S.O.C. designed entirely by them based on an ARM CPU design.
there is a MUCH higher chance that nVidia provide documentation for their own SOC than compared to a secondary chip that goes into a device with a CPU they didn't design.
i'm hopeful anyway. if it's not going to be Snapgragon that provides the performance and features we want, it will be Nvidia, or samsung, or marvel......
someone will make what we enthusiasts want. and we will buy it
thinking positive is good
but they should still release doc on the secondary chip first as reputation for them is bad
base on brand is good & end consumers always think its better, but not for developers who have bad experiences when email to nvidia, they dont even bother to reply
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374678
Tabbe said:
thinking positive is good
but they should still release doc on the secondary chip first as reputation for them is bad
base on brand is good & end consumers always think its better, but not for developers who have bad experiences when email to nvidia, they dont even bother to reply
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374678
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whilst i do agree with that business practice, it seems most mobile makers are well aware of the fact that most people are dumb sheep and have short memories.
the people will by whatever the current media tells them to. look at iphone sales, in America Apple have an easier time to sell it to Americans because they are less knowledgeable about such things.
in Europe and Asia it isn't selling so well because the people there know more and don't fall for such hype. in Asia you can buy un unlocked iphone for 1/2 the price of a subsidized USA iphone.
enthusiasts like us are a very small minority so we will always get the best available for our needs. unfortunately i've been unable to find my needs, but that will change by the end of the year
Tabbe said:
when nvidia Goforce 5500 came build in to o2 xda flame/toshiba G900, everyone is so excited until everyone knows there isnt any supporting doc for developers for nvidia's chip, no one can use it except for nvidia
so what is so excited when they have another chipset but not open for developers?
even until now ppl in flame/toshiba forum are still trying to get this chipset work for some simple video playback on tcpmp
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So how about MSM 7200A? for GF5500 at least tcpmp has full hardware acceleration for MPEG SP/ AVC Baseline, but AFAIK there's ONLY overlay support for MSM 7200A right now.
eoc said:
So how about MSM 7200A? for GF5500 at least tcpmp has full hardware acceleration for MPEG SP/ AVC Baseline, but AFAIK there's ONLY overlay support for MSM 7200A right now.
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with the devices that have the older goforce dedicated graphics silicone, the hardware is used for almost nothing. on the O2 Flame the camera uses it for photos(at least the viewfinder, probably not even for JPEG acceleration), but not video codec acceleration at all.
TCMP may use the goforce, thoughi never heard of it using the chip, just the MSM72xx's built-in graphics chip.
for all the goforce devices, the devices never used it. not even for more than a few games. the desktop/today screen, all of the 2D things you do with the devices like displaying menus,browser screens, scrolling.......never accelerated. ther CPU does all the work, taking more time (worse performance), and more battery (worse battery time)
a total waste of battery and chip.
this is why i believe there is a better chance of Nvidia's SOC having the full drivers to use the graphics part because it's an entirely owned SOC from one company, not an additional chip where they're not responsible for making sure the device performs.
Nvidia will have the the whole SOC to be accountable for and that means they are in a position where they are more expected to perform.
have a look at the videos where Nvidia shows off the Tegra series chip and think that they're showing a reference platform with one of their own designed interfaces for developers to use the code.
this is much more involved compared to Qualcomm and other chip makers that don't usually do anything except make the chips and provide a single reference driver. Nvidia is being very involved in the chip AND the software development.
their desktop graphics chips have very good software support for developers. think "the way it's meant to be played" campaign, CUDA,etc
Nvidia make chips, and make software to use them.
http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...search_sort=relevance&search_category=0&page=
Tabbe said:
when nvidia Goforce 5500 came build in to o2 xda flame/toshiba G900, everyone is so excited until everyone knows there isnt any supporting doc for developers for nvidia's chip, no one can use it except for nvidia
so what is so excited when they have another chipset but not open for developers?
even until now ppl in flame/toshiba forum are still trying to get this chipset work for some simple video playback on tcpmp
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I have the same concerns.
so is this the chipset we should be excited about? i now see people complaining about this nvidia chipset because the cpu is weaker compared to other upcoming phones. is that even true? i've yet to see a single video of any other chipset thats half as impressive as nvidia's.
xtop said:
so is this the chipset we should be excited about? i now see people complaining about this nvidia chipset because the cpu is weaker compared to other upcoming phones. is that even true? i've yet to see a single video of any other chipset thats half as impressive as nvidia's.
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it's possible (i'm thinking ~70%) that this is the chip as i believe it has the best chance of having full driver support from Nvidia.
even though by the time it comes out (later this year) it'll be almost a year late from it's announcement, it'll still be a contender.
the ARM11 CPU core will only have to do the normal CPU functions like in a desktop CPU, because the TEGRA has dedicated silicone for all the rest of the accelerated goodness that IS in Qualcomm MSM72xx chips, but sadly not used.
there are next gen chips from Qualcomm (snapdragon), TI (OMAP 3 & 4), Samsung,Marvel......
they all have good chips coming out, but it looks like Nvidia could have one of the best for a good few months.
the only other contender in the near future (for the rest of this year) is Snapdragon. that is a beast built on ARM's Cortex unit (like some of TI's & other chips coming later), and looks to be the only other chip to consider this year.
being Qualcomm, i'm not entirely hopeful they will change their behavior regarding driver support. their business model stinks and Nvidia have the upper hand with regard to providing hardware AND software support.
so for me, for this year, i like Snapdragon's hardware, but i love the idea of the Nvidia chip. it's the mos promising better balance.
let's hope it gets enough design wins and a few decent devices come out to show what Nvidia can do in this new market for them.
Nvidia showed what could be done with TEGRA running a netbook compared to Intel's Atom, it shamed it in the power efficiency stakes! if Nvidia can get some design wins, they may pull of their $99 netbook promise.
thanks p3ngwin, thats basically how i was feeling about tegra. i knew snapdragon was probably going to be the competition, but from what i was reading on other forums there was a lot of debate about which one was going to be better.
but from what i've seen from snapdragon compared to tegra, i don't know why anyone should be impressed with snapdragon.
xtop said:
thanks p3ngwin, thats basically how i was feeling about tegra. i knew snapdragon was probably going to be the competition, but from what i was reading on other forums there was a lot of debate about which one was going to be better.
but from what i've seen from snapdragon compared to tegra, i don't know why anyone should be impressed with snapdragon.
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snapdragon is a very powerful SOC, there are even netbooks being made with it just like TEGRA.
it's just that having the chip is not enough, the software needs to take advantage of all that power and that's where the idea of Qualcomm's snapdragon instantly gives me a sour state in my mouth.
Nvidia are new to this SOC biz, and i'm willing to forgive them for the crap devices other manufacturers made with the goforce series. Nvidia can make the chips and provide software, but they aren't in a position to demand it's optimal use as much as say MS can with a whole OS.
qualcomm and HTC had a deal on a ****-load of volume MSM72xx chips and HTC made truck loads of devices based on them. Qualcomm had a lousy business ethic regarding cost of chips and supporting software, and HTC were ok with that.
here's hoping Nvida have a better way of doing business.

WM 7 running on i-mate JASJAR

Russian mobile analyst E.Murtazin suddenly posted a blur photo of WM 7 running on i-mate JASJAR
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Does anybody know what ROM or maybe just a good skin for WM 6.5 is used there?
tomal, is it possible if any?
This is the most similar I´ve found:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530269
Hope it helps,
ASSHORN said:
Russian mobile analyst E.Murtazin suddenly posted a blur photo of WM 7 running on i-mate JASJAR
Does anybody know what ROM or maybe just a good skin for WM 6.5 is used there?
tomal, is it possible if any?
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mmmmmm thats not a skin...
orb3000 said:
This is the most similar I´ve found:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530269
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And thats windows 7 wad skin, not a windows phone 7 skin.
That is correct mate
It's very interesting info and discussion about on Murtazin's blog, seems we will see WM7 leaked ROM's very soon
Yeah, Beasty told me also
Hope soon we can have it ported to our beloved Uni´s!
Porting seems to be somewhat problematic, seeing minimum requirements for WM7 is 1Ghz processor. Whether it means we'll have to be happy with 'the look' of WM7, as in themes that resemble the OS, or scaled down version of OS remains to be seen.
"Tomal... when are you going to be doing the service for upgrading our Uni's to 1GHz?"
1Ghz it's not the minimum to run WM7, custom roms will be running on some oldest devices too
Win_XP said:
1Ghz it's not the minimum to run WM7, custom roms will be running on some oldest devices too
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You think? http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/01/27/windows-mobile-7-minimum-requirements-leaked-again/
-Jonny- said:
"Tomal... when are you going to be doing the service for upgrading our Uni's to 1GHz?"
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Hehe, I'd be happy with 256 ram, forget the processor. Still have 2 boards to send to Tomal, just no longer have spare funds.
enigma1nz said:
Hehe, I'd be happy with 256 ram, forget the processor. Still have 2 boards to send to Tomal, just no longer have spare funds.
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Two boards?... yes, a dual processor with double the ram, that should do the trick!!
PS'ed and opened img in fullscreen?
-Jonny- said:
Two boards?... yes, a dual processor with double the ram, that should do the trick!!
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Hehe, I like the way you think...
Symbian better
Win_XP said:
1Ghz it's not the minimum to run WM7, custom roms will be running on some oldest devices too
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Now Symbian it's 100% open source, the minimum to run it's 100 MHz for processor and 32mb ram
rod555 said:
Now Symbian it's 100% open source, the minimum to run it's 100 MHz for processor and 32mb ram
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well winmo will always be there, i'm not going back to symbian... however android (nexus one) is tempting me...LOL but happy with my beloved Uni and Touch HD....
rod555 said:
Now Symbian it's 100% open source, the minimum to run it's 100 MHz for processor and 32mb ram
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Ponders the reasons I could possibly want Symbian....
rajivshahi said:
well winmo will always be there, i'm not going back to symbian... however android (nexus one) is tempting me...LOL but happy with my beloved Uni and Touch HD....
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Similar here, won´t go back to symbian/maemo, WM still solid and a stable buisness eviorment OS, I stay with it for now...
As for Android, perhaps in the near future could be a good option, immature OS for now.

Cotton Candy, one of the smallest Arm Computers out there!

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Is that a USB key in your pocket or a dual-core computer? Today, Norwegian company FXI technologies showed off a USB stick-sized portable computer prototype, complete with a dual-core 1.2-GHz Samsung Exynos ARM CPU (same as in the Galaxy S II), 802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, HDMI-out and a microSD card slot for memory. Codenamed Cotton Candy because its 21 gram weight is the same as a bag of the confection, the tiny PC enables what its inventor calls “Any Screen Computing,” the ability to turn any TV, laptop, phone, tablet, or set-top box into a dumb terminal for its Android operating system.
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Source: LaptopMag
The Cotton Candy also runs arm compatible versions of Linux, and is said to be compatible with Windows 8 ARM.
Thoughts? I think this would be great for low end computer replacement, or a small gaming system for emulators along side a bluetooth controller and a 32gb memory card. Even a small media center hub for your TV, download Netflix, Hulu, video apps, or whatever streaming and media apps you want and boom, HTPC right there.
Wow Seems brilliant haha
I <3 This idea!!
i want one
Really cool I love this idea
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perfect gift for christmas
Looks good.Thank you my friend.
Brilliant idea I would love to use one of these at my school with it's ten year old computer...
Depending on the price, this could become a developer friendly device.
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Depending on the price, this could become a developer friendly device.
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It was rumored to be around 200$ if i remember well...i'm getting one as soon as it's released
I think that's pretty awesome. Having the ability to take my computer and plug it into any size tv would be amazing.
Its running gingerbread ... get ICS on that thing and I'd buy one in an instant
Tapatalkin it from my IHO CM7.1'd, ICS Themed Optimus V
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Its running gingerbread ... get ICS on that thing and I'd buy one in an instant
Tapatalkin it from my IHO CM7.1'd, ICS Themed Optimus V
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Apparently it's a portable Exynos soc, so it won't be that hard to port ICS to that little bad boy when Samsung pushes the update for the GS2.
I'm thinking win8 with arm support to be a real PC
Max. (From my Galaxy 2)
And who says there is no need for a quad core mobile cpu. Although the chip they are using is nice, and tegra 3 or quad core Samsung soc would be awesome on this device.
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GREAT SHARE! Thanks!
Whoa... Samsung is letting other companies use the Exynos SoC?
That's awesome... Samsung must really consider their Exynos SoC to be top of the line... and it is!
Oh, that is very cool.

Motorola Razr i announced!

Most interesting spec would be it's 2GHz Intel processor and an edge to edge screen.
Motorola Razr i XT890
Specs:
CPU: Intel Atom Z2460 @ 1.3GHz
Boost to 2GHz
GPU: PowerVR SGX 540 @400MHz
Radio: XMM6260 baseband (HSDPA+. no LTE)
Screen: 4.3" qHD Super AMOLED Advanced
Edge-To-Edge screen
Battery: 2000mAh battery (20 hr usage time)
OS: 4.0 ICS (upgradable to 4.1 Jelly Bean "soon" )
Camera: Illuminated 8MP rear camera
HDR capable
H.264 Baseline 1080p @ 30fps with AAC 44.1kHz audio
LED flash
Camera startup in <1 second
Burst of 10 shots in <1 second
0.3MP front camera
Media playback: 1080p @ 30fps for H.264/VC-1
720p @ 30fps for MPEG-4
D1 @ 50/60fps for H.263
AAC, AAC+, AAC+ Enhanced
AMR NB, AMR WB
MIDI
MP3
PCM
WAV
WMA (v2, v7, v8, v9, v10)
FLAC
OGG/Vorbis
WLAN: 802.11a/g/b/n (2.4GHz/5GHz)
Mobile Hotspot (up to 8 connections)
Bluetooth: Class 1, Version 2.1+EDR
Memory: 1GB RAM
8GB flash memory
5GB user avaliable
microSD card expansion
Connectivity: 3.5mm
USB 2.0 HS
DLNA
NFC
Location Services: aGPS (assisted)
Standalone GPS
eCompass
Available in a variety of carries in the UK and Latin America
Unlockable Bootloader (Subject to region and carrier restrictions)
Build: Splash guard coating
Kevlar back
Gorilla glass
Aircraft-grade aluminium
60.9mm x 122.5mm x 8.3mm
126g
Comments:
The CPU base clock will be at 1.3GHz, and will boost if thermal headway is available, to 2GHz. Think of Turbo Boost in desktop Intel CPU.
The Razr i will ship in October to select European and Latin American markets, including the UK, France, Germany, Argentina, Brazil and Mexico.
Radio information:
Code:
HSPA+ Rel.7, Cat 14/Cat6 (21Mbps DL/5.8Mbps UL)
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HSPA+/UMTS Tri-Band 900/1900/2100 MHz (I/II/VIII)
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I'm pretty excited being a Motorola fan, but wonder if this'll help Intel take off at all. The switch from ARM architecture could be a pain too many for devs
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Here's a hands-on of the device.
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From my naive point of view, this seems very exciting. Finally, some competition to ARM, and able to get 2ghz, none the less! I know very little about how Atom compares, though; hopefully the experts will get a good look at it.
Pretty good specs, though I doubt I'll buy it. Next thing I'm buying is GS4 or Note 2.
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Funny how this gets less attention then the previous moto launch. I think this launch is more ground breaking.
True. This is pretty ground breaking.
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Wow... and I reall like the size too. Coul be finally a worthy succesor for my old Desire
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Wow... and I reall like the size too. Coul be finally a worthy succesor for my old Desire
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I'll either get this or the Razr HD Maxx. Now it just depends on the level of developer support.
Fantastic Phone
I am amazed with the spec. 2GHz.... Netbooks are barely 2Ghz. It's not about how many cores, but the rate at which it processes data, which perhaps might be better than any Quad-core phone out there. This might be my next phone [if it comes to my carrier].
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Wow... and I reall like the size too. Coul be finally a worthy succesor for my old Desire
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My thoughts exactly when saw it yesterday
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I wonder if Ubuntu will jump on this opporunity to run on X86 phones instead.
GPU is kinda dissapointing
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Would it be possible, at least in theory, to install and run Windows XP, 8 , Ubuntu or any full-fledged x86 OS on this phone? I wonder since it's an x86 processor, and it has everything it needs to comfortably run a full desktop OS...
^ I wouldn't bet on that. Windows would need an ntfs/FAT file system as opposed to extX that come on these phones, but could THAT be done? Well, only time will tell...
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^ I wouldn't bet on that. Windows would need an ntfs/FAT file system as opposed to extX that come on these phones, but could THAT be done? Well, only time will tell...
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Dual boot from SD card?
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Would it be possible, at least in theory, to install and run Windows XP, 8 , Ubuntu or any full-fledged x86 OS on this phone? I wonder since it's an x86 processor, and it has everything it needs to comfortably run a full desktop OS...
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Thats what I'm wondering, but if it has a locked bootloader it may be hard to do. If someone could port a GRUB style bootloader it may be possible. But I don't know how Windows would react to a non IBM-PC style system which lacks a traditional BIOS. It would probably be easier to get x86 Ubuntu running first since Android is Linux based.
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Thats what I'm wondering, but if it has a locked bootloader it may be hard to do. If someone could port a GRUB style bootloader it may be possible. But I don't know how Windows would react to a non IBM-PC style system which lacks a traditional BIOS. It would probably be easier to get x86 Ubuntu running first since Android is Linux based.
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The phone will come with an unlocked bootloader.
I too am considering this phone as a replacement to my old HTC Desire.
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Here are the most in-depth reviews that I've found so far:
Techradar
Expertreviews
Cnet
It's looking like quite a solid mid-range priced phone.
A few critical thoughts so far:
I'd like to be able to customise the lockscreen apps, at the moment these are fixed to: Camera, Messages and Call.
I'd like to be able to access quick settings from the Notification bar so I don't need to close an app to get to these.
I'd like to be able to auto focus the camera by half pressing the dedicated camera button.
Needs the latest Android version ASAP.
4G LTE would be nice but I can understand that's asking a bit much at this stage.
I have the original razr xt910 and im moving to sgs3 and will never buy a moto phone again no matter what it has or good it is I'm done with moto.
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I have the original razr xt910 and im moving to sgs3 and will never buy a moto phone again no matter what it has or good it is I'm done with moto.
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Any particular reason? Did you have a bad experience with the xt910?
I think the sgs3 is a tad too big for me.

Elephone Vowney, MTK6795, 2K Screen, 4GB RAM, Android 5.1, 20.7MP Camera, 4G/LTE

A new high-end flagship is on the way from Elephone - the Elephone Vowney with Windows/Android OS.
It combines elegant design with super specs.
Elephone Vowney is their 2K Flagship 2015. Because of the pretty high specs, the price is also expected to be a little higher than we normally see from Elephone, but the price ratio should be okay.
The model comes in 2 versions. Version A or B. The model offering either Windows 10 or Android 5.0 Lollipop
The specifications:
- 64-bit MTK6795 CPU Octa Core
- Windows/Android OS
- 5.5 inch 2K (2560 x 1440) resolution display
- 4 GB RAM + 32 GB ROM
- Firmware Android 5.1
- Support for 4G/LTE
- Support for microSD cards
- 20.7MP rear camera + 8MP front camera
- Equipped 3850mAh battery
- NFC
- Press touch ID
- Android 5.1 (Lollipop) OS and CM12 Support
- Colours: Black, White & Gold?
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I wonder if Version B/Pro will really come with a Moorefield SoC, because not even the ZenFone 2 has a Windows 10 ROM and I think the Imagination GPU doesn't have drivers for Windows.
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I wonder if Version B/Pro will really come with a Moorefield SoC, because not even the ZenFone 2 has a Windows 10 ROM and I think the Imagination GPU doesn't have drivers for Windows.
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This would be amazing if true but exceedingly unlikely: perhaps an Atom X5 doesn't generate too much heat when crammed into a phablet-sized device? I'd pay upwards of $400 for a developer-friendly phablet with Intel HD (Broadwell/Gen8, not PowerVR) graphics. I've been waiting for a Linux-friendly Intel powered phone since before Bay Trail, and I may still be waiting a year from now unless my above fantasy pans out.
I've got Elephone P7000, it is good phone, I am really looking forward to Elephone Vowney phone.
What is the weight of Elephone Vowney
Hello,
I got confused about the weight of this phone, on website says it is 650 grams, then it will be very heavy to carry. So kindly somebody can explain some details about the exact weight of this otherwise excellent mobile.
Is the chip ' 64-bit MTK6795 CPU Octa Core' processor is faster than or equelent to Snapdragon 810?
Thanking You
Dr.saidalavi
I dont think windows rom support is correct. its not memtioned in the highlites
Am wondering about the cm12.1 support. Does this mean the sources will be out?
would be cool if the device tree is reusable to build a pletora of custom roms. Then this can have a device forum right?
would be awesome.
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Hello,
I got confused about the weight of this phone, on website says it is 650 grams, then it will be very heavy to carry. So kindly somebody can explain some details about the exact weight of this otherwise excellent mobile.
Is the chip ' 64-bit MTK6795 CPU Octa Core' processor is faster than or equelent to Snapdragon 810?
Thanking You
Dr.saidalavi
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http://tabtec.com/hardware/mediatek-mt6795-goes-head-head-snapdragon-810-geekbench/
dunno about its power efficiency though. may perform better but suck more juice.
for me the lte support would be important as well as custom roms capability
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Hello,
I got confused about the weight of this phone, on website says it is 650 grams, then it will be very heavy to carry. So kindly somebody can explain some details about the exact weight of this otherwise excellent mobile.
Is the chip ' 64-bit MTK6795 CPU Octa Core' processor is faster than or equelent to Snapdragon 810?
Thanking You
Dr.saidalavi
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I saw the weight on website but I saw specs on other sites and it shows 169g. I don't think it could be 650g which more than half kg :laugh:
Assalamu Alaikum(Peace from to all), my friend from Pakistan,
I am not differentiating the members of this forum according to their nationality, but for an Indian it is special when a reply comes from his Pakistani brother, that is all
Thank you very much for the reply,
When I read about the weight of the phone in one website, I had a bigger smiley of course on my face, and I thought it may be wrong also, as nobody can carry such a phone with them.I want to confirm it before ordering , otherwise the spec as so impressive, so I am waiting for its release. So your reply is a great assistance to me.
Thanks
Krystyna said:
I've got Elephone P7000, it is good phone, I am really looking forward to Elephone Vowney phone.
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How good is Elephone at putting out updates? Any feeling on how long it will take Elephone to upgrade its phones to Android M?
Sir I told you about the weight. It was mention 650g maybe because of auto correct or spell mistake. I confirmed the weight which is 169g. You can order the phone which is going to release on 20th june.
stay happy
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How good is Elephone at putting out updates? Any feeling on how long it will take Elephone to upgrade its phones to Android M?
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the updates are frequent and quicker because they don't have millions of customer like samsung. If they give M upgrade then you will get before Samsung S6 pretty sure.
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How good is Elephone at putting out updates? Any feeling on how long it will take Elephone to upgrade its phones to Android M?
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1 - 2 months to update a firmware, I don't know whether Elephone will release Android M firmware.
seems like this one was scrapped. Its not on the official website http://www.elephone.hk/newproduct.html
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seems like this one was scrapped. Its not on the official website http://www.elephone.hk/newproduct.html
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The link is there on website which I cannot post here. The phone will release on 20th of this month.
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The link is there on website which I cannot post here. The phone will release on 20th of this month.
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I just noticed on elephone.cc that it's now saying the 20th of August for the release date. I suppose that makes sense, at least for the Vowney Pro/version B (the one that dual boots Windows 10 and Android) since Windows 10 isn't supposed to be out until the end of July anyhow. I really hope the Pro has an Atom X5 and US LTE band support, because Elephone is the only OEM so far that has gotten me this close to being excited about my dream x86 developer phone finally being made!
Well, most preliminary information I've seen indicate that this phone will have an Atom Z3580 SoC, which contains a PowerVR GPU. Since I'm unlikely to ever get a phone, even a phablet, with tablet-class graphics, let alone one that has open source driver support for running Linux, I just gave up on getting this one and ordered myself a 64GB/4GB RAM ASUS ZenFone 2 ZE551ML, which should be arriving tomorrow. It may even be cheaper than importing a Vowney Pro at this point. I of course would love to be wrong.
Elephone Vowney is Elephone flagship phone?
They have a dedicated page for it now: http://www.elephone.cc/elephone-vowney.html
I wish it wasnt soo big! I want a 5.2" device....come one people!
they give a discount to the people who bought one of the first 5000 elephone p8000 without led.
Did we know anything about, did we know when it will be out?
Doesnt look like this will work with ATT due to bands right?
How is Windows going to run on that SoC?

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