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[Q] Bare Minimum Files

As I'm sure most of us have been, with all the ICS Roms being posted as of the last couple of days, I've been a Flashaholic trying all these different Roms and so on and so on. Well, my question is...
I feel my Internal SD Card is getting full of folders that are becoming obsolete/redundant, so does anyone know what are the "Bare Minimum Folders" required to run correctly. IOW, I want to delete everything but the "True System Folders". I'm hoping that by getting rid of everything, it'll free up space, and speed the system up as a whole because it's not having to search a huge Index for where it's trying to pull info from to operate.
I personally feel like I can delete everything from there, with the obvious exceptions being the Files included in the Rom.. but once again, that's just my "Noob-ness".. lol..
As always any help would be greatly appreciated, and I would also like to thank anyone for their assistance in this matter in advance.

What I usually do to clean up is to go to storage in settings on the phone, and format usb storage. This keeps only the necessary stuff for system and gets rid of all of the extra stuff. I keep all of my files like music, etc on the ext. sd card, so it doesn't get wiped.
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So after doing this do you have to go into recovery and re-flash the Rom? or will it automatically create the folders as you open the Apps?

sledgeharvy said:
So after doing this do you have to go into recovery and re-flash the Rom? or will it automatically create the folders as you open the Apps?
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Just to clarify, I'm talking about doing this in the rom and not in recovery. You won't have to reflash the rom, and apps will create what they need as you run them.
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Oh, okay, I was originally talking about as your phone is running, go into Settings/Storage, and Format from there, but I didn't see that option. Lol..
So overall, I can delete anything I want to on the larger 13.03Gb and the smaller 1.85Gb internal sd card I can not delete anything from there because it's reserved for Apps and System Files/Folders.

sledgeharvy said:
Oh, okay, I was originally talking about as your phone is running, go into Settings/Storage, and Format from there, but I didn't see that option. Lol..
So overall, I can delete anything I want to on the larger 13.03Gb and the smaller 1.85Gb internal sd card I can not delete anything from there because it's reserved for Apps and System Files/Folders.
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Pretty much, but there are a few files that stay if you go the settings/storage/format route, so I do that to get rid of junk in the 13.03 GB partition. But you are right, you mainly don't want to delete stuff on the smaller internal partition, unless you know what you are deleting.
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[Q] Can't move apps with Link2SD

I have tried to move apps to sdcard with Link2SD and other similar apps. It fails and says that I can't move them because my device has a primary external storage which is emulated from the internal storage.

Here is a screenshot of the message

Howdy!
as far as I have found out (and been following this problem on and off since I got my plus a few months ago) there is no proper way to move apps to your SD card. Best solution (and the one I am using) is to partition your SD Card then use Link2SD to link apps on your SD. You can set it up to do so automatically for every new app you install. As for partitioning I found this guide the best since I'd never attempted it before but it works really well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2126363
Good luck and hope this helps a little!

Thanks a lot

lance2355 said:
Howdy!
as far as I have found out (and been following this problem on and off since I got my plus a few months ago) there is no proper way to move apps to your SD card. Best solution (and the one I am using) is to partition your SD Card then use Link2SD to link apps on your SD. You can set it up to do so automatically for every new app you install. As for partitioning I found this guide the best since I'd never attempted it before but it works really well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2126363
Good luck and hope this helps a little!
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Do we need to root phone for that?
If yes then what's the point of making partitions.
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fayez107 said:
Do we need to root phone for that?
If yes then what's the point of making partitions.
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Well, my phone was rooted anyway but I think Link2SD needs it. As to why exactly it needs to be partitioned I can only tell you that when my card wasn't partitioned as suggested in the guide I linked then Link2SD wouldn't even offer to link the apps. I am no expert as I pointed out but this was a solution that worked for me. It may well be someone else found something better that doesn't require partitioning. To my knowledge doing things this way requires root AND the partitioned SD card.

lance2355 said:
Well, my phone was rooted anyway but I think Link2SD needs it. As to why exactly it needs to be partitioned I can only tell you that when my card wasn't partitioned as suggested in the guide I linked then Link2SD wouldn't even offer to link the apps. I am no expert as I pointed out but this was a solution that worked for me. It may well be someone else found something better that doesn't require partitioning. To my knowledge doing things this way requires root AND the partitioned SD card.
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Did you try Apps to SD? Ill be rooting very soon and see what happens. If none works then last stop would be to make partition.
Okay I did root my phone successfully. Still cant move apps. Now going to do this partition system. Hope it works !

fayez107 said:
Did you try Apps to SD? Ill be rooting very soon and see what happens. If none works then last stop would be to make partition.
Okay I did root my phone successfully. Still cant move apps. Now going to do this partition system. Hope it works !
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Yeah, I tried Apps to SD as well but without success. You get exactly the message as the OP said here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42863865&postcount=2
Same goes for Link2SD however once you partitioned it at least offers you to link the apps. But like I said that only happened after I did the partitioning. Beforehand it would not even offer that.
I am not entirely sure what or why Samsung did what they did in kinda blocking the moving of apps to an external card but it it really blows considering that you only get a somewhat limited amount of storage to begin with.

lance2355 said:
Yeah, I tried Apps to SD as well but without success. You get exactly the message as the OP said here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42863865&postcount=2
Same goes for Link2SD however once you partitioned it at least offers you to link the apps. But like I said that only happened after I did the partitioning. Beforehand it would not even offer that.
I am not entirely sure what or why Samsung did what they did in kinda blocking the moving of apps to an external card but it it really blows considering that you only get a somewhat limited amount of storage to begin with.
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Hello again brother. Same here. Before partitioning there was not any option to create link even.
I did the partitioning stuff did work. I can successfully transfer my apps into the ext2 partition i created. (Btw which partition format did you go with?)
How ever I believe folder mount is still a better option as it does not require you to create partitions and works directly such as you enter a brand new card without partition and move apps into card and then it links it. But the only drawback is you need to purchase the app :

fayez107 said:
Hello again brother. Same here. Before partitioning there was not any option to create link even.
I did the partitioning stuff did work. I can successfully transfer my apps into the ext2 partition i created. (Btw which partition format did you go with?)
How ever I believe folder mount is still a better option as it does not require you to create partitions and works directly such as you enter a brand new card without partition and move apps into card and then it links it. But the only drawback is you need to purchase the app :
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I used ext4 for my partition. And I hadn't heard of Folder Mount until you mentioned it. Will have to check it out. Can you actually move stuff if you use that?

lance2355 said:
I used ext4 for my partition. And I hadn't heard of Folder Mount until you mentioned it. Will have to check it out. Can you actually move stuff if you use that?
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Well ext4 didn't work for me idky though ext2 did and it worked. But creating partitions is pure junk and it would reduce the life and speed of your card (its something i believe) so I deleted the partitions and brought my card into original format.
And yes man Folder Mount is something we need ! It does exactly what both of us want. Simply move all the app data from internal memory to external memory and as soon as you move you have empty space on your internal storage and external storage is occupied. Its simple and very clear and easy to use. Just 3 clicks i believe and its done. And another good stuff is it will show you how much an app is occupying internal space and then moves it into SD card and also doesn't show important system apps to move as moving them creates problem.
There's a free version to try which would allow you to move 3 apps only and if you want more then buy the app for 2 Dollars.
Its developed by @madmack. Do check it out. The sad part for me is I dont have a credit card nor Paypal is available in my country
And i need this app badly !

Dumb Question on USB storage Apps

When storing apps on USB storage and then re romming, I notice that I have to move the apps back over. Are the previously moved apps still on the USB storage or are they in a directory that is wiped when I wipe my phone to update the rom?
It seems Im constsantly running out of space now and apps wont update.
thanks

tevil said:
When storing apps on USB storage and then re romming, I notice that I have to move the apps back over. Are the previously moved apps still on the USB storage or are they in a directory that is wiped when I wipe my phone to update the rom?
It seems Im constsantly running out of space now and apps wont update.
thanks
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did you figure this out? is it possible to make more space for apps on nexus s?

ben303 said:
did you figure this out? is it possible to make more space for apps on nexus s?
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well i just move EVERYTHING thats not google to the sd.
My question is tho when I redo my phone does it know to delete those file from SD or should I go in somewhere and clear them before moving them again.
as for making more space, there is a tut on re partitioning but its pretty involved and I honestly feel like its not worth it in the end.
Sucks CHROME alone now takes almost 40mb on the sd..

why is this happening??

i have been unable to get to the bottom of it. really could use some help. this tablet is running cm10.2. only sees 4.59 of memory.... claims to be the total onboard memory. makes no sense to me. if cm10 takes up 3.5 then the total should still be 8 with system files taking up 3+gb. but this is not the case...
thank you in advance!!!

Seriously? Thread #3 with the same question?

nycdave said:
i have been unable to get to the bottom of it. really could use some help. this tablet is running cm10.2. only sees 4.59 of memory.... claims to be the total onboard memory. makes no sense to me. if cm10 takes up 3.5 then the total should still be 8 with system files taking up 3+gb. but this is not the case...
thank you in advance!!!
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hmm a new problem for you right ??
such problems go when wipes are done in recovery but god knows what is in your tab
please brother change your rom
try cm 11 by @pawitp
it is in initial stages but is quiet good

kt-Froggy said:
Seriously? Thread #3 with the same question?
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no one is able to explain this... you didnt there so why try now?

aditya rathee said:
hmm a new problem for you right ??
such problems go when wipes are done in recovery but god knows what is in your tab
please brother change your rom
try cm 11 by @pawitp
it is in initial stages but is quiet good
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link?

nycdave said:
link?
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here we go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2525713
read the thread before flashing after matching your variant
good luck :good::good:
i pray that you wont get same storage problem again in any rom

nycdave said:
no one is able to explain this... you didnt there so why try now?
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For crying out loud... I gave you the answer. You didn't like it, but that's your problem. I also asked you (and anyone else) to provide any proof of more internal storage on the 8GB model. No response, as expected. If you somehow remember getting full 8GB on stock ROM, as opposed to what you are getting now, you were hallucinating.
Let me try again. There is TOTAL storage, which is 8GB. And there is USER-ACCESSIBLE storage, which is much less. Unless you go really hardcore, and start playing with non-standard partition sizes on your tablet, you will NOT get more than approx. 4.5GB available to you. It's a fact of life. Get over it. To better understand what I mean, open terminal console, and type "df" (without quotes). Check the total size of your internal sdcard partition (on stock, it's /storage/sdcard0, on CM it may be something else). This is the definitive answer to your question.

Me too dude, The box of the tablet, and on the back part says that is 8GB but is only 4,59GB. Why?
Because the storage divides in two the first part is for the system app, and system process. The other part is for your apps or other things.
This is not a problem it is normal on any device. Why do you need many storage?
Try to use FolderMount or Link2SD for your apps. FolderMount helped me a lot for the big games.

kt-Froggy said:
For crying out loud... I gave you the answer. You didn't like it, but that's your problem. I also asked you (and anyone else) to provide any proof of more internal storage on the 8GB model. No response, as expected. If you somehow remember getting full 8GB on stock ROM, as opposed to what you are getting now, you were hallucinating.
Let me try again. There is TOTAL storage, which is 8GB. And there is USER-ACCESSIBLE storage, which is much less. Unless you go really hardcore, and start playing with non-standard partition sizes on your tablet, you will NOT get more than approx. 4.5GB available to you. It's a fact of life. Get over it. To better understand what I mean, open terminal console, and type "df" (without quotes). Check the total size of your internal sdcard partition (on stock, it's /storage/sdcard0, on CM it may be something else). This is the definitive answer to your question.
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okay i am the type of cat who is able to admit when I am wrong... i am wrong!!! I am sorry about that because I could swear that when i had the stock rom in that it showed 8gb TOTAL memory but obviously less available memory. since I posted this thread I went back to stock just to prove myself wrong and again, you were right. it only shows 4.59gb which really is a surprise to me.
just so you know it's not that i didnt like your answer, its just that I really believed that i saw 8gb total. my bad dude.
now, if i am able to get a memory swap with cm10.2 working Ill be satisfied. any ideas?
thanks

nycdave said:
if i am able to get a memory swap with cm10.2 working Ill be satisfied. any ideas?
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Sorry, can't help you with this, because I am not a CM user, and, most importantly, I never used any storage swapping methods. One think I did try in the past was to use some app to mount specific folder(s) on external SD to present them as if it was an internal storage. Although it doesnt completely swap your int and ext storage, it works just fine in most cases (with some limitations). Basically, this is what Folder Mount is about (already suggested to you). I used DirectoryBind, which has long been abandoned, and doesn't work on newer Android versions. Many people are happy with Folder Mount, but you can also find other alternatives, like Super Mount from Lidroid (it's free, unlike Folder Mount). Look them up on Play Store, it might be a workable solution for you...

Edit internal memory to add to phone storage?

Is it possible to increase my (rooted 4.4.4) fake galaxy note 4's phone storage, by taking some storage from the internal memory? Is it possible via root, or ROM at all? I don't want apps2sd or anything like that.
I think the phone storage is smaller than listed in settings, and I can get less than a mb of storage on it. No downloads go to my SD card, even when the settings are right.
By increasing my phone storage, I can at least see what's wrong.
Thanks

Jesse72 said:
Is it possible to increase my (rooted 4.4.4) fake galaxy note 4's phone storage, by taking some storage from the internal memory? Is it possible via root, or ROM at all? I don't want apps2sd or anything like that.
I think the phone storage is smaller than listed in settings, and I can get less than a mb of storage on it. No downloads go to my SD card, even when the settings are right.
By increasing my phone storage, I can at least see what's wrong.
Thanks
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You'll need to change the system partition, and I wouldn't recommend doing it..

Newyork! said:
You'll need to change the system partition, and I wouldn't recommend doing it..
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Well, upon lengthy consideration, I think I still want to. Can you tell me a little more? Can I do this with the stock ROM? Where would I find a guide to do this?

Jesse72 said:
Well, upon lengthy consideration, I think I still want to. Can you tell me a little more? Can I do this with the stock ROM? Where would I find a guide to do this?
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I never actually did this, and it seems to me that this is device specific meaning that you will not find a universal method how to change system partition.
I am not by a pc now, so I can't make really any research.

Jesse72 said:
Is it possible to increase my (rooted 4.4.4) fake galaxy note 4's phone storage, by taking some storage from the internal memory? Is it possible via root, or ROM at all? I don't want apps2sd or anything like that.
I think the phone storage is smaller than listed in settings, and I can get less than a mb of storage on it. No downloads go to my SD card, even when the settings are right.
By increasing my phone storage, I can at least see what's wrong.
Thanks
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Try xposed's module xinternalsd.
Download link- http://dl-xda.xposed.info/modules/com.pyler.xinternalsd_v372_c03b39.apk
Read this post- http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xposed-disablesignaturecheck-t2789267
First install xposed framework for this module.

[email protected] # said:
Try xposed's module xinternalsd.
Download link- http://dl-xda.xposed.info/modules/com.pyler.xinternalsd_v372_c03b39.apk
Read this post- http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xposed-disablesignaturecheck-t2789267
First install xposed framework for this module.
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Thanks, but xposed won't install. I think lots of stuff uses the phone storage. When deleting everything possible, I can get about 1mb space. I think the storage is much less than stated.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 4........FAKE! Admit it, you thought I had money for a second didn't you?

Jesse72 said:
Thanks, but xposed won't install. I think lots of stuff uses the phone storage. When deleting everything possible, I can get about 1mb space. I think the storage is much less than stated.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 4........FAKE! Admit it, you thought I had money for a second didn't you?
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OK bro I think you have a option that is creat partition on SD card & use link2sd app to free internal memory but remember I am not responsible for kind of damage, try this at ur own risk...
For procedure check this post.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142844
This is complete guide for partition sdcard & use link2sd app.
Note- before do anything take backup sdcard.
Good luck bro..

[email protected] # said:
OK bro I think you have a option that is creat partition on SD card & use link2sd app to free internal memory but remember I am not responsible for kind of damage, try this at ur own risk...
For procedure check this post.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142844
This is complete guide for partition sdcard & use link2sd app.
Note- before do anything take backup sdcard.
Good luck bro..
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Thanks. I didn't really want to do this, but thinking about it more, its probably the best solution. I will try when I next have time to play around with my phone.
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