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Nintendo DS Roms for android?

Hey guys, Ive been doing a little bit of reading on roms, and ive managed to get hold of Gameboid, which is a emulator for the android found on the market. Ive put the GBA, emulator on, but really wanted a Nintendo DS.
Does any one know if one exist?, I Have a Sony Ericsson X10 ..
Thanks

duffy1807 said:
Hey guys, Ive been doing a little bit of reading on roms, and ive managed to get hold of Gameboid, which is a emulator for the android found on the market. Ive put the GBA, emulator on, but really wanted a Nintendo DS.
Does any one know if one exist?, I Have a Sony Ericsson X10 ..
Thanks
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not that i know of.

there won't be a ds emulator for a looong time. the screen size would be too small to fit the two screens + on screen buttons. Maybe it can fit into the evo4g

would the phone's hardware even be able to play ds games at a steady framerate? i wouldn't think so, but what do i know.

yeah there is one i have it but with no games cause i dont know where to get them just go to you're browser and type: market.ltiger.cn/demo/nds ; and theres a download link there but as i said i dont know where to get the games im doing my research so ill reply when i find out

Yes there is one.. But with current hardware its pretty useless.. Other than for developmental uses.
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TigerDS exists but its nothing more than a tech demo atm.
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It would be fun to play Animal Crossing on my phone!

The general rule is to emulate a gaming system you need x10 the power of the device.
Ram wise the original nintendoDS has very little. I tink I worked it out once and figured that some higher end phones would be capable hardware wise to handle running nds roms (.nds files) but due to the fact we only have one screen, which on many devices isn't big enuf to split it mightnt be practical.
Ever heard of the kyochera echo? Google it. That would be one phone which would be ideal fr nds emulation. . . .but afaik its hardware specs are abit dissapointing so power wise it mightnt be able to handle it.
EDIT: but for tabs, (galaxy tab, ipad, xoom etc) it might be an ideal and realistic project . . .

Jandyman said:
The general rule is to emulate a gaming system you need x10 the power of the device.
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This is quite not true. It all matters on how well you program the emulator and on what hardware you are emulating on.
You see, it would really actually be possible to run NDS games even on lowest end Android phones. NDS is running on ARM9 and ARM7 processors (ARM9 being 67MHz, and ARM7 being 34MHz). And most of the Android phones are running on ARM9 chips, but at clearly much faster speeds. I don't think there are Android phones that go lower than 600MHz, so probably all Android phones should be able to run it. The main problem lies within programming issues.

bladez said:
This is quite not true. It all matters on how well you program the emulator and on what hardware you are emulating on.
You see, it would really actually be possible to run NDS games even on lowest end Android phones. NDS is running on ARM9 and ARM7 processors (ARM9 being 67MHz, and ARM7 being 34MHz). And most of the Android phones are running on ARM9 chips, but at clearly much faster speeds. I don't think there are Android phones that go lower than 600MHz, so probably all Android phones should be able to run it. The main problem lies within programming issues.
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Well that's true to a point, but for example no matter how well you program your emulator our fones won't be able to handle psp emulation . . . . So the x10 isn't a 'hard/set in stone rule' but more a guidline to keep us within the realms of reasonable possibility. I didn't come up with it but I'm quoting what I was told on another forum where this was brought up
Even taking this into account nds emulation is still more then possible on 'most' android fones if we can overlook the screen space issue.
Also does the huawei U8150 not have a 528mhz processor?
(I'm running android off a tp2 (also 528mhz). Off a build based on the huawei's rom and it was used because of the hardware similarities ie same processor speed)
Also I'm sure there are some lower end eclair/donut and lower android phones which would also be 528.

[NEWS]Nintendo DS on Android

I couldn't help posting this because i became happy when i read it...
Tiger Lab apps(nds demo emulator)
[Only open for limited days]
1. VERY EARLY PROTOTYPE VERSION(BETA) FOR DEMO ONLY
2. It is very very slow so you shall not expect to play NDS game with this emulator.
3. It is used to DEMO that NDS game can be played on android phone
It is shown that NDS WILL be played some days on android phone, maybe 2012 or later
WHAT IS NEXT WORK (Huge efforts)
1. More powerful phones
2. Dynarec CPU simulation
3. GPU simualtion improvement for speed greatly.
4. Hareware render (eg, OpenGL ES)
5. FPU. Since NDS need lots of float calculation. FPU can improvement performance greatly. Later ARM will have FPU in feature
If you do not have a high-end phone, do not try NDS game. Even if you have a high-end phone, just try some small games(none 3D) but it is also quite slow.
How to demo (not play) NDS game
1. Put your nds ROM files to /roms/nds folder in sdcard.
Note. zip nds rom is not supported, you shall extract them to be *.nds files
2. Launch TigerNDS which will load those NDS roms in game list
3. Select one game and play
It is just DEMO and speed is very very very very slow even on high-end phones. You shall not expect to play nds game with the emulator.
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SOurce: http://www.appbrain.com/app/tiger-lab-(nds-demo-emulator)/com.tiger.demo.nds

Its amazing what a skilled developer can make and pretty soon I'm sure we'll see a app for everything and this is just one more off the list. I can't wait to see how they manage using both screens but im sure it'll be awesome!
Good job devs! Keep it up!
-D3luSi0n4L

Might work well for the Kyocera Echo

This looks promising!

I know it's just a proof of concept currently, but why are they saying it would need new devices to run well? It seems like, since the DS and our devices are both ARM based, with some obvious modifications to run arm code natively and not emulated, you could get it running pretty well. At least that's what I had gathered from previous discussions about it.

JesusFreak316 said:
I know it's just a proof of concept currently, but why are they saying it would need new devices to run well? It seems like, since the DS and our devices are both ARM based, with some obvious modifications to run arm code natively and not emulated, you could get it running pretty well. At least that's what I had gathered from previous discussions about it.
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In order to emulate a nintendo DS your phone needs to have twice the power. But to be honest I never thought the DS was too powerful... So I bet once the emulator is out of alpha it should run fine on a galaxy S. But who knows were still waiting for Zodttd to finish the N64 emulator

Wow! This would be awesome!! I miss Mario Bros on my phone

I tried on HD2, and yes is very very very slow, but it works.

maxohkc said:
In order to emulate a nintendo DS your phone needs to have twice the power. But to be honest I never thought the DS was too powerful... So I bet once the emulator is out of alpha it should run fine on a galaxy S. But who knows were still waiting for Zodttd to finish the N64 emulator
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Of course, I am familiar with emulators and how, as a rule of thumb, your device should be 10 times more powerful to expect any sort of decent emulation. I'm just saying, maybe they can avoid emulating certain things and run native ARM DS code natively, vastly speeding it up. It would be REALLY hard though, requiring vast knowledge of ARM assembly from what I've heard. Meh, Zodttd. He should stick to iPhone imo. Android will probably get some decent open source emulators soon enough.

maxohkc said:
In order to emulate a nintendo DS your phone needs to have twice the power. But to be honest I never thought the DS was too powerful... So I bet once the emulator is out of alpha it should run fine on a galaxy S. But who knows were still waiting for Zodttd to finish the N64 emulator
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decent emulation takes about 5-10 times the power to emulate
and ive heard that emulating the DS is extremely difficult
as for zod i honestly doubt he is still working on that project paul seems to be the one that is on top of the project now

I'll try it out with my Atrix tonight, maybe post a youtube video. Is there a standard game we are using?

I've been trying to run a .nds file on this. The ROM is Pokemon Platinum (128mb). It's on /roms/nds and shows up in the app, however when I click on it it flashes to a black screen then goes back to the rom selection screen.

Fehnix22 said:
Might work well for the Kyocera Echo
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LOL!!!! That's hilarious! But that might be true too.

Sighh..
I remember the time when psp can emulate ds rom even though the frame rate per second was really low! (Average 17fps!)

I stopped using handhelds after the Gameboy Advance.. besides, it feels like all these games are the same rehash with little story change and somewhat better graphics.. there doesn't seem to be any new creative things being done in the handheld market.. so I say why bother killing your phone trying to emulate the NDS..
with that in mind, we are looking at quad-core phones by the end of 2012 for SURE, and dual-core by fall 2011 I hope, so just wait a few more months haha.
my bigger concern about emulation and games on the Android is multitouch.. even my Desire on 2.3.3 (CM7) has issues where multitouch fails, rendering even most old games unplayable (how the hell can I run and jump in Mario at the same time like the real gamepad allows.. if we wanna improve the quality of gameplay on our phones, we should push the manufacturers for better hardware that'll allow coders to provide for better multitouch capability.
just my 2 cents..

I wouldn't worry about that, bluetooth gamepads are on the way.
I use a Wiimote with classic controller for emulators at the moment.

NDS emulation can be slow even on PC, so don't expect phones to run games playable

alienhunt: more like spring 2011 for dual core.
i'll be getting a tegra2 phone in the mail next week.

If you do not have a high-end phone, do not try NDS game. Even if you have a high-end phone, just try some small games(none 3D) but it is also quite slow.
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Can somebody make better explanation? How high end should devices be? Would current devices (Desire, Galaxy S) be enough or do we need to wait for dual core?
Bluetooth gamepads are nice, but i think they are more like "i can do that" than really being usable. Games on the phones are meant to be played anywhere. And i don't want to carry a wiimote around with me just to play games on my phone.
I have tried several emulators on my HD2 and games are quite playable despite HD2's limit of maximum 2 touch points. Biggest problem is the feedback of the controls. You cannot feel controls, which means you can easily miss it.
I think best on screen controls would be ones that are fully customizable. Ability to move and resize controls to match your device, finger size and playing position would be killer feature.

matejdro said:
Can somebody make better explanation? How high end should devices be? Would current devices (Desire, Galaxy S) be enough or do we need to wait for dual core?
Bluetooth gamepads are nice, but i think they are more like "i can do that" than really being usable. Games on the phones are meant to be played anywhere. And i don't want to carry a wiimote around with me just to play games on my phone.
I have tried several emulators on my HD2 and games are quite playable despite HD2's limit of maximum 2 touch points. Biggest problem is the feedback of the controls. You cannot feel controls, which means you can easily miss it.
I think best on screen controls would be ones that are fully customizable. Ability to move and resize controls to match your device, finger size and playing position would be killer feature.
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I have a Desire, the DS games run with 3 - 7 FPS...it's ok for "100 Classic Book Collection" and thats it.

Emulation on the G2X

Wow this phone is fast! N64 and PS1 at full fps with sound! Almost kind of boring when you don't have to tweak a ton of settings just to make the roms playable
I've been into emulation on every device I've owned, so its how I benchmark the relative performance from one device to the next. Coming from a N900, this G2X blows it out of the water. My N900 could play SNES at full fps but turning the sound on would slow it down. The N900 could play N64 and PS1 but they were really slow at ~10fps skipping at least two or three frames without sound.
So N64 and PS1 emulators were the best I had to throw a the phone and it handles it no problem. I'd like to see what the phone can really do. Its starting to feel like this phone might be pretty close to my laptop (older 2Ghz C2D) in emulation performance; blows my mind to even think that. Is there a PS2 emulator anywhere? I read a rumor that said Nvidia might put out a PS2 emulator but I wasn't sure how true that was. I'm assuming if Nvidia puts the emulator out then it would be optimized for Tegra2 and actually use both CPU cores and the graphics chip so the games might actually run OK-ish.
If not, what is everyone else using to push the phone? I don't really care about quadrant benchmarks or anything like that.
Oh BTW, this is my first Android device so excuse the noobness of me not knowing what software exists

EvilOlivE said:
Wow this phone is fast! N64 and PS1 at full fps with sound! Almost kind of boring when you don't have to tweak a ton of settings just to make the roms playable
I've been into emulation on every device I've owned, so its how I benchmark the relative performance from one device to the next. Coming from a N900, this G2X blows it out of the water. My N900 could play SNES at full fps but turning the sound on would slow it down. The N900 could play N64 and PS1 but they were really slow at ~10fps skipping at least two or three frames without sound.
So N64 and PS1 emulators were the best I had to throw a the phone and it handles it no problem. I'd like to see what the phone can really do. Its starting to feel like this phone might be pretty close to my laptop (older 2Ghz C2D) in emulation performance; blows my mind to even think that. Is there a PS2 emulator anywhere? I read a rumor that said Nvidia might put out a PS2 emulator but I wasn't sure how true that was. I'm assuming if Nvidia puts the emulator out then it would be optimized for Tegra2 and actually use both CPU cores and the graphics chip so the games might actually run OK-ish.
If not, what is everyone else using to push the phone? I don't really care about quadrant benchmarks or anything like that.
Oh BTW, this is my first Android device so excuse the noobness of me not knowing what software exists
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lol this is your first android device? I am convinced that everyone should have had to start out on a g1 or mtg3 to get the full experience hahaha... glad you are enjoying our overpowered pocket pc's

JHaste said:
lol this is your first android device? I am convinced that everyone should have had to start out on a g1 or mtg3 to get the full experience hahaha... glad you are enjoying our overpowered pocket pc's
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haha yeah its my first I've been reading about Android since it was announced and I've played with different versions on emulators and I actually had my N900 dual booting Froyo, but this is my first actual Android device. I'm a little bit of a software nerd so I like trying out different OS's. Meego, Maemo, WebOS, Palm, WinMo CE 6 and 5, Android 1.5-2.3; I've spent some time with all of them. I even lurked for a while before my join date. Not too much of a noob in general, just with the world of 3rd party software for Android.
So anyway, back on topic. Does a PS2 emulator exist for Android? What's everyone running to test out their new G2X?

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lol this is your first android device? I am convinced that everyone should have had to start out on a g1 or mtg3 to get the full experience hahaha... glad you are enjoying our overpowered pocket pc's
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And everyone should have to walk to school...five miles, through the snow, up hill...both ways.
But anyway, It really is an amazing device...much more powerful than the netbook I bought just last year. But then again, I remember just how crazy fast my home built 50MHz 486 with 512 Kb of RAM was. Amazing time to be alive...
Damn, I feel old...

No PS2 Emulator out for Android yet.
As a general rule it takes around 4 or 5 times the processing power to correctly emulate a system (give or take). The PS2 has a 128bit processor running at 300MHz with multiple coprocessors. I think we are getting close but not quite there.

Yeah I realize the G2x won't run PS2 perfectly, especially if its run completely off the CPU it might not run at all. That's why I was hoping there was more to the Nvidia PS2 emulator rumor...
Oh well, it's not like I wont have fun playing with N64 and PS1, its just too easy.

Just like older phones with SNES and other emulators, you have frame skipping and stuff to help the frame rate.
I think the PS2 is overkill but whatever.
I just think its funny that Sony is coming out with a new PSP Android phone to run PS1 games that we can already do for free using our own backups.

player911 said:
I think the PS2 is overkill but whatever.
I just think its funny that Sony is coming out with a new PSP Android phone to run PS1 games that we can already do for free using our own backups.
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Overkill is the whole point. What software are you using to push your G2X?
I agree with that last part, it is pretty funny. It seems like a pretty cool phone though, I just don't buy sony.

EvilOlivE said:
Wow this phone is fast! N64 and PS1 at full fps with sound! Almost kind of boring when you don't have to tweak a ton of settings just to make the roms playable
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What are you using for controls when playing the N64 games?
What emulators is everyone using for the G2x with success?
I have DLed a few but lost all my roms with my HDD so haven't tried them out yet.
I couldn't get PS1 emulation working with my own backups or others
JHaste said:
lol this is your first android device? I am convinced that everyone should have had to start out on a g1 or mtg3 to get the full experience hahaha... glad you are enjoying our overpowered pocket pc's
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hah, I came from a G1 when cyanogen was the only rom to flash. then to an N1 with CM7 now My G2x.
I really miss my trackball and LED notification but i love the phone otherwise
player911 said:
Just like older phones with SNES and other emulators, you have frame skipping and stuff to help the frame rate.
I think the PS2 is overkill but whatever.
I just think its funny that Sony is coming out with a new PSP Android phone to run PS1 games that we can already do for free using our own backups.
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I thought the phone was already out? either way its cool that it has a slide out gamepad. and sony said they plan to make the games available for all android phones eventually

Spoo76 said:
What are you using for controls when playing the N64 games?
What emulators is everyone using for the G2x with success?
I have DLed a few but lost all my roms with my HDD so haven't tried them out yet.
I couldn't get PS1 emulation working with my own backups or others
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I've only tried N64oid and FPse, both work really well for me so far. I'm just using the onscreen controls right now. I tried to get the accelerometer working for the left dpad/stick but I still have some tweaking to do to get it the way I like it. Still, the accelerometer doesn't feel natural with these games, they weren't really designed to be controlled that way.
Id like to get one of those iControlpads, its bluetooth so it should work. It's just kinda of pricy so I'll wait to hear of other people using it with a G2X first.
speaking of slide out gamepads, I'm surprised something like This hast come out yet. It would be perfect for me.

Yea i like the IcontrolPad as well, but like you said its a bit expensive.
If you don't mind not being able to hold the phone this one is great
http://www.amazon.com/Wii-Retro-Wireless-Controller-Nintendo/dp/B001ULJGDU
Its the Wii retro controller with bluetooth built in, no nunchuck needed. People have used it with Blueputdroid.
I figure I can just plug the Micro HDMI into the TV and USB for power with this controller and have portable classic gaming

Nice! If anyone gets that bluetooth remote working let me know please...I would love to use some emulators using hdmi and the BT controller!
I dont have any on my phone yet cause I really dont like playing on the touchscreen...but with the controller would be sweet!
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so far until someone works on the drivers or the bluputdroid dev supports the phone its not going to happen on a stock G2x rom. Ive seen it does work on CM7 roms however I haven't tried myself.
I'm half tempted to try a nightly but i like having a stable phone.
my controller should be here any day so if HDMI out is working on CM7 I will probably give it a try

I currently use a one handed bluetooth gamepad. It works with Fpse, Psx4droid, N64oid, Gameboid, Snesoid and Gensoid. Plus i have the belt clip kickstand. I just sit back on the bus or train to work and play FF7, Super Smash Brothers, Tekken Advanced, Killer Instinct and of course Sonic.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ZeeMote...&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=9422332

I was wondering where those were in stock. the one handed control would be weird for a while i bet

Spoo76 said:
I was wondering where those were in stock. the one handed control would be weird for a while i bet
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Its takes a little getting used to, Just like anything new. With key mapping I play all games with know problems.

chillwill11 said:
I currently use a one handed bluetooth gamepad. It works with Fpse, Psx4droid, N64oid, Gameboid, Snesoid and Gensoid. Plus i have the belt clip kickstand. I just sit back on the bus or train to work and play FF7, Super Smash Brothers, Tekken Advanced, Killer Instinct and of course Sonic.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ZeeMote...&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=9422332
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Just ordered one of those from Ebay...shipping from Europe though...and the wait is killing me. I thought it looked iffy at first. Glad to hear you've had good results with it. Not a lot of inputs...but I guess four buttons and a directional is enough for most anything.

bdkinney said:
Just ordered one of those from Ebay...shipping from Europe though...and the wait is killing me. I thought it looked iffy at first. Glad to hear you've had good results with it. Not a lot of inputs...but I guess four buttons and a directional is enough for most anything.
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Wish there was more but it does the job
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could someone point me in the right direction to having emulators on my phone? im at work right now and cant search.

could someone point me in the right direction to having emulators on my phone? im at work right now and cant search.
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Go to the android market and download them.
You should be able to find all but the n64, emulator which should be re released soon.

[Q] is any hope for update Tiger NDS , or NDS4droid !!

hi guys
it's long time that haven't see any update for "tiger nds " and " nds4droid "
on first day that was very hopeful , but ...
is there anybody here that have news about them ?
or is there any other emulator for NDS ?

mehdi.moha said:
hi guys
it's long time that haven't see any update for "tiger nds " and " nds4droid "
on first day that was very hopeful , but ...
is there anybody here that have news about them ?
or is there any other emulator for NDS ?
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I think you can kiss that dream goodbye. The play isn't strong enough to emulate a nintendo DS. plus, nintendo ds has dual screen. How did you intend to play that on your phone?

common sense please.
the play has much bigger chance of emulating Psp/GCube than NDS...that Dual Screen kills it e-zly

the play is strong enogh. The NDS is not more powerfull thzan the n64 and it is more easy to emulate becouse the ds has an ARM processor.

The NDS shouldn't be a big thing to emulate... But nintendo can get hostile towards much development on a console whose games are still in the market.
Bleem is the paramount case.

IE-coRe said:
the play is strong enogh. The NDS is not more powerfull thzan the n64 and it is more easy to emulate becouse the ds has an ARM processor.
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Yeah but still, how about the dual screens?

Im sure the play has enough screen space to accomodate 2 screens, also its touch screen which helps.
Havent looked into ds emulation for a long time, but the main problems were with a lack of gyroscope and microphone (all of which the play has). Am I missing something though? Why couldnt the play emulate both screens?
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Dual screens isn't that hard to overcome. Display them side by side. Done. That's how I run the ds emulator for pc.
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Logseman said:
The NDS shouldn't be a big thing to emulate... But nintendo can get hostile towards much development on a console whose games are still in the market.
Bleem is the paramount case.
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Bleem was a playstation emulator for the dreamcast and PC. Sony took bleem to court and bleem won
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letspoint said:
Im sure the play has enough screen space to accomodate 2 screens, also its touch screen which helps.
Havent looked into ds emulation for a long time, but the main problems were with a lack of gyroscope and microphone (all of which the play has). Am I missing something though? Why couldnt the play emulate both screens?
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The play has an accelerometer not a gyroscope
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AndroHero said:
The play has an accelerometer not a gyroscope
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Yes and the DS has nothing like that. The 3DS has.

AndroHero said:
Bleem was a playstation emulator for the dreamcast and PC. Sony took bleem to court and bleem won
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Thing is, the Playstation and its games were still selling well at the time.

Well of course you CAN do dual display on a single display, i'm not an idiot. But what I mean is that the screens will be pretty small, which i think would suck.. That's why i think the NDS emulator for the play is a pointless idea.
The only good solution i can come up with is if you could switch between the screens somehow. YOu have one screen at the time, in fullscreen mode. Then with the press of a button jump to the other screen.
I haven't played the Nintendo DS that much, so i don't know if you really need both screens at the same time at all time.

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just look at old psp !
the cpu was poor , but all of us have seen that how Sony made big games with best possible and fantastic resolution on that. " like god of war - resistance ..."
i think our xperia play is strong enough to support NDS .
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NDS cpu - WIKIPEDIA :
CPU: Two ARM processors
* 32 bit ARM946E-S main CPU; 67 MHz clock speed. Processes gameplay mechanisms and video rendering.
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when psx released , on first step was something like current ver. of "tiger NDS " or " NDS4droid "
very slow ...
i think we can hope to improve that emulators. there are so many beauty games on NDS that worth to try for . ps1 games are good , but is better to play it on widescreen , home theater , ...
but NDS games are specially for little screen , 4 inc
i'm , personally eager to see and buy a prefect emulator for NDS .
i've send mail to tigerNDS developer and request him to keep on nice try .
please guys ,
let's do it together

The kyocera echo would be the best for NDS emulation XD
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mehdi.moha said:
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i'm sorry if my english is not good
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just look at old psp !
the cpu was poor , but all of us have seen that how Sony made big games with best possible and fantastic resolution on that. " like god of war - resistance ..."
i think our xperia play is strong enough to support NDS .
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NDS cpu - WIKIPEDIA :
CPU: Two ARM processors
* 32 bit ARM946E-S main CPU; 67 MHz clock speed. Processes gameplay mechanisms and video rendering.
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when psx released , on first step was something like current ver. of "tiger NDS " or " NDS4droid "
very slow ...
i think we can hope to improve that emulators. there are so many beauty games on NDS that worth to try for . ps1 games are good , but is better to play it on widescreen , home theater , ...
but NDS games are specially for little screen , 4 inc
i'm , personally eager to see and buy a prefect emulator for NDS .
i've send mail to tigerNDS developer and request him to keep on nice try .
please guys ,
let's do it together
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what you have to keep in mind is that you need almost 12x the power of the **** you're trying to emulate. So if you are gonna emulate a n64, you need a computer with 12x much power.
and you mix up emulate and port. I think you can port really good quality games from lets say PSP to xperia play. But i don't think you can emulate it.

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what you have to keep in mind is that you need almost 12x the power of the **** you're trying to emulate. So if you are gonna emulate a n64, you need a computer with 12x much power.
and you mix up emulate and port. I think you can port really good quality games from lets say PSP to xperia play. But i don't think you can emulate it.
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The 12x the power thing is debatable but is besides the point.
We do not need to emulate everything. The play already has the an arm processor. no need to emulate one of those. that saves us a lot of the processing power to emulate other things.

_terror_ said:
what you have to keep in mind is that you need almost 12x the power of the **** you're trying to emulate. So if you are gonna emulate a n64, you need a computer with 12x much power.
and you mix up emulate and port. I think you can port really good quality games from lets say PSP to xperia play. But i don't think you can emulate it.
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The N64 sports a 74mhz processor, faster than the NDS' 67mhz ARM. Since the Play emulates the n64 just fine there's no technical limitation in this respect.
Not to mention there's no consistent formula for judging the power needed for emulation.
There's no real reason you shouldn't be able to emulate the DS on our phones. Just not everyone will enjoy it. Me, I have a 3ds if I want to play the games, so I don't really care about the emulator either way

speedyink said:
The N64 sports a 74mhz processor, faster than the NDS' 67mhz ARM. Since the Play emulates the n64 just fine there's no technical limitation in this respect.
Not to mention there's no consistent formula for judging the power needed for emulation.
There's no real reason you shouldn't be able to emulate the DS on our phones. Just not everyone will enjoy it. Me, I have a 3ds if I want to play the games, so I don't really care about the emulator either way
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as i said before, i haven't played the NDS, so i don't know it's power. I thought it was better then Nintendo 64, but i guess i was wrong.
All that talk about 12x much power. That's just what i've learned from this forum reading the threads in the developers section.
The reason i'm not interested in a NDS emulator is the lack of a good solution for the dual screen.

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as i said before, i haven't played the NDS, so i don't know it's power. I thought it was better then Nintendo 64, but i guess i was wrong.
All that talk about 12x much power. That's just what i've learned from this forum reading the threads in the developers section.
The reason i'm not interested in a NDS emulator is the lack of a good solution for the dual screen.
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The whole 12x more powerful thing is a bit iffy, the PSP is not 12x more powerful in specs than the N64 but it emulates it perfectly...

3DS Running Android 4.0

this is only an idea, i get bored and start thinking about weird but cool things mixed toguether maybe you guys can make similar things that you would love to have, just download your favorite stuff mix them on photoshop, try them itll be fun
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That would be crazy.

It would be awesome to have that, but hacks for the 3DS are more likely(non atm)
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3ds and ds. Have pointless processors. Might get a donut from running on them but not ics.
Trade it in and get something the Samsung galaxy media thing.
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This would be any better than the cheapest of android phones.

iammodo said:
3ds and ds. Have pointless processors. Might get a donut from running on them but not ics.
Trade it in and get something the Samsung galaxy media thing.
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heinzdembowski said:
This would be any better than the cheapest of android phones.
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I feel it important to point out (despite having exactly the opposite feelings myself) that quite a lot of hardware huggers and geeks have an extremely strong emotional attachment to 'Nintardo' and all its 'cute products'. The emotional attachment is often so strong that it blinds, obscures and ultimately completely overrides normal levels of good sense and intelligence.

That would be cool to have, but once icons get to the top screen it would be near impossible to move them off it since its not touch sensitive.

Guru Zeb said:
I feel it important to point out (despite having exactly the opposite feelings myself) that quite a lot of hardware huggers and geeks have an extremely strong emotional attachment to 'Nintardo' and all its 'cute products'. The emotional attachment is often so strong that it blinds, obscures and ultimately completely overrides normal levels of good sense and intelligence.
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I don't get how zenonia 4 can be free but Zelda on 3ds is over £20.
I have Mario mushroom tattoos but haven't had a Nintendo since then n64 and gameboy advance.
Weak hardware and tired games.
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Wow just looked the dsi has a 133mhz processor. It can't run any form of android. No wonder the games as so weak.
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iammodo said:
Wow just looked the dsi has a 133mhz processor. It can't run any form of android. No wonder the games as so weak.
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The games on my 3DS run far smoother than my Nexus overclocked to 1.2ghz AND its the best glasses free 3D on a portable device
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Holy **** a bunch of people bashing proper console games while promoting rubbish mobile games?
Alrighty my impression of you guys have degraded. Seriously.
Why does zenonia 4 cost nothing while Zelda cost money? Quality of the game, of course. Zenonia is so horrible only anyone who have no taste in games would find it attractive, as with most casual mobile phone gamers because they simply haven't touched anything that's of good enough quality to set a decent benchmark of what's good and what's crap.
Processors does not determine the quality of the game and there's no denying it, DS and 3ds probably can't get android running but the games made for those consoles are far more entertaining then mobile games. I have no idea how Zelda is a "tired game" while zenonia is not.

Android 4.2 on my Tamagochi would be fun
16x16 b/w and 2 bottons FTW!

PVTD said:
Android 4.2 on my Tamagochi would be fun
16x16 b/w and 2 bottons FTW!
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+1
This guys gets it
Buhahahahahahahahaha

I agree with you to an extent but mobile gaming has progressed a lot over the past couple of years. The lack of hardware controls still doesn't sit well with me, though. I need physical buttons for games like platformers.

blackchides said:
I agree with you to an extent but mobile gaming has progressed a lot over the past couple of years. The lack of hardware controls still doesn't sit well with me, though. I need physical buttons for games like platformers.
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Yeah i completely agree, in fact IMHO Touch controls completely suck and are holding back smartphone gaming. For more of my whining about the inadequacies of touch controls
ht*tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1491481
For THE BEST solution to serious gaming on Android look no further than here:
ht*tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179929
IMHO non of this prevents Nintardos products being jokes, suitable only for small children with overly protective parents .... lol ( my twins have DS's they are 6, already Mia prefers playing some games on my HTC Desire Z)

I agree
Ratix0 said:
Holy **** a bunch of people bashing proper console games while promoting rubbish mobile games?
Alrighty my impression of you guys have degraded. Seriously.
Why does zenonia 4 cost nothing while Zelda cost money? Quality of the game, of course. Zenonia is so horrible only anyone who have no taste in games would find it attractive, as with most casual mobile phone gamers because they simply haven't touched anything that's of good enough quality to set a decent benchmark of what's good and what's crap.
Processors does not determine the quality of the game and there's no denying it, DS and 3ds probably can't get android running but the games made for those consoles are far more entertaining then mobile games. I have no idea how Zelda is a "tired game" while zenonia is not.
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+1 on your comment I could not have said it better myself

Super bump I'm probably gonna get suspended or warned or something...
But I wanted to let you all know...
CyanogenMod 7 idled using 63mb of ram on my Samsung Galaxy Exhibit...
The 3DS has 128mb...
It also has a dual core and a pretty beefy GPU... So?
Maybe some SDCard ram? Can that be done on Android? 128mb of SD card ram... That's all we need...
Now let's say this could be run with the help of a flashcart...
Like the http://eng.supercard.sc/manual/dstwo/
Supercard DSTwo... It has I think.. 64mb of ram?It also has an integrated CPU.
Wouldn't that make the 3DS a tripple core of some sort? Wouldn't that help?
I think so.
The 3DS could probably run Android in the future.. I don't see it so farfetched.

treborbula1 said:
this is only an idea, i get bored and start thinking about weird but cool things mixed toguethe
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its almost possible, everything on the 3ds has been dumped except for the bootrom. if the bootrom is dumped, we can put everything we want on a 3ds and it will run fine! (if the cpu, ram and other stuff like that are good enough)
edit: the bootrom has been dumped, BUT its not public.:crying::crying::crying:

Yo it's a NEW YEAR FOR ADVANCEMENTS
MintCrystal556 said:
its almost possible, everything on the 3ds has been dumped except for the bootrom. if the bootrom is dumped, we can put everything we want on a 3ds and it will run fine! (if the cpu, ram and other stuff like that are good enough)
edit: the bootrom has been dumped, BUT its not public.:crying::crying::crying:
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I'm just now reading over this forum you seem to be the closest one to actually work with on the 3DS. I have my bootrom dumped with boot9strap installed. I'm down with making a cfw that's equivelent to 3DS software and also has android apis or programming. It will be a challenge however considering the fact that you have minimal ram to work with and very low processing speed.
The 3DS sfw is very light but if you were to making it lighter and add a couple of software enhancements to it (Make it your own) you could potentially lessen the amount of ram the home screen takes up. The 3DS sfw makes it so the the home screen is always active in the backgroud, if I could cut that bit of ram free then the potential for running newer software would be greater. Also in a cfw there the potential that you can partition a proportionally larger SD card with virtual ram and speed up the processing a little more.
If you have anything that can help please reply to my post so I can remember this forum for the future. Hope my post helped:laugh:.

NonStickAtom785 said:
I'm just now reading over this forum you seem to be the closest one to actually work with on the 3DS. I have my bootrom dumped with boot9strap installed. I'm down with making a cfw that's equivelent to 3DS software and also has android apis or programming. It will be a challenge however considering the fact that you have minimal ram to work with and very low processing speed.
The 3DS sfw is very light but if you were to making it lighter and add a couple of software enhancements to it (Make it your own) you could potentially lessen the amount of ram the home screen takes up. The 3DS sfw makes it so the the home screen is always active in the backgroud, if I could cut that bit of ram free then the potential for running newer software would be greater. Also in a cfw there the potential that you can partition a proportionally larger SD card with virtual ram and speed up the processing a little more.
If you have anything that can help please reply to my post so I can remember this forum for the future. Hope my post helped:laugh:.
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Any progress?