Please convince me not to get the official ICS update - HTC Sensation

This is one of my more stupid posts, I admit.
I need someone to convince me *not* to undo whatever is necessary in order to install a stock HTC ROM so that I can get the official OTA ICS release as an OTA update (now available for TMoUS Sensation owners, I believer).
For some months now I've greatly enjoyed playing with any number of ROMs, changing firmware, tryings mods and so on. In fact, I've got a nicotine-like addiction to flashing ROMs. After a nice meal, I like to change ROMs on my phone. When I get home from work, I enjoy relaxing with a new ROM. That sort of thing.
But now I'm starting to want to put everything in reverse so that I can have HTC or TMoUS or whoever update my phone from stock GB+Sense to stock ICS+Sense.
I need somebody to persuade me not to do that and to assure me that I'm better off as I am, freely sampling any and all sorts of custom ROMs, most of which perform better than stock, anyway.
Wow, what a geek I've become! And I used to be so normal ....
Thanks.

A. Embrace the stock lifestyle where your phone is what it is until htc & tmo say you can change it. You run the risk of loosing root. Ifyou try to go back to S-ON (you S-OFF?) you run the risk of bricking.
B. Stay rooted. Install a stock+rooted ICS rom and you'll have basically the same thing minus wifi calling with the option to change roms if stock sucks.

varxx said:
This is one of my more stupid posts, I admit.
I need someone to convince me *not* to undo whatever is necessary in order to install a stock HTC ROM so that I can get the official OTA ICS release as an OTA update (now available for TMoUS Sensation owners, I believer).
For some months now I've greatly enjoyed playing with any number of ROMs, changing firmware, tryings mods and so on. In fact, I've got a nicotine-like addiction to flashing ROMs. After a nice meal, I like to change ROMs on my phone. When I get home from work, I enjoy relaxing with a new ROM. That sort of thing.
But now I'm starting to want to put everything in reverse so that I can have HTC or TMoUS or whoever update my phone from stock GB+Sense to stock ICS+Sense.
I need somebody to persuade me not to do that and to assure me that I'm better off as I am, freely sampling any and all sorts of custom ROMs, most of which perform better than stock, anyway.
Wow, what a geek I've become! And I used to be so normal ....
Thanks.
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Sounds like you do have a serious addiction. Tried joining Flashers Anonymous? LOL!
Not sure if I can convince you not to undo your deeds and return to the stock flock just to get official ICS. If "official" doesn't matter much to you, you'll be better off as a flasher. For one, custom ROMs are more up-to-date than official ROMs. In the case of my Sensation XE, for example, it never received any upgrade (from HTC) to any Android version beyond 2.3.5--and this was at a time that many other phones already had Android 2.3.6, or better yet, 2.3.7.
Now I have ICS (Android 4.0.3) on my Sensation XE. But, Google just released Android 4.0.4. I can only imagine how long it will take for HTC to send me that. And, I'm sure custom ROM developers are already swooping in on 4.0.4 as we speak.
But, if "official" is big for you, then you can go for it. If not for the warranty or for the presumed stability of "official" firmware, then at least for the thrill of being able to undo what you have done. If the official updates leave a bad taste in your mouth, you can always go back to your old flashing habits. And, that, too, would be thrilling, I suppose.

My first experience in rooting was paying someone to hack the original Iphone, so that I could use my tmobile sim card. Since then I have rooted 2 galaxy tabs, 4 my touch 4g's and my own sensation, installing roms, learning adb commands etc. I can honestly say that in every instance all the devices ran far better with a custom, non-official rom. I received a replacement mytouch 4g for warranty repair and could not believe how slow and buggy it was when I received it with the official software and update.

Thanks, guys. I'm feeling better already.
I guess the analogy with nicotine wasn't quite accurate.
Here's a better analogy. A few months ago I finally broke up with a not-so-hot girlfriend. Since then, I've been enjoying going out with all sorts of great women. Now I have a chance to get back together with the old girlfriend (I hear she has a new haircut, yo), and I'm feeling tempted to do it, I guess because she's just so familiar or something.
Anyway, I just needed a few of you to talk sense into me (no pun intended).
So, I'm staying with the freewheeling lifestyle of custom ROMs.
All for one and one for all, and all that good stuff ....
Geekward ho!

varxx said:
Thanks, guys. I'm feeling better already.
I guess the analogy with nicotine wasn't quite accurate.
Here's a better analogy. A few months ago I finally broke up with a not-so-hot girlfriend. Since then, I've been enjoying going out with all sorts of great women. Now I have a chance to get back together with the old girlfriend (I hear she has a new haircut, yo), and I'm feeling tempted to do it, I guess because she's just so familiar or something.
Anyway, I just needed a few of you to talk sense into me (no pun intended).
So, I'm staying with the freewheeling lifestyle of custom ROMs.
All for one and one for all, and all that good stuff ....
Geekward ho!
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This made me laugh It's so true!

Going back to stock is exactly like going back to that EX girlfriend, Except this time she's picked up Aids from 'Bob' who works at the local junk yard..
You might be curious to see what sleeping with an AIDS infested girl is like, But in the long run, your pinky will probably fall off...
Its the same as going back to stock..... People who have stock ROMs have no pinky.

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Going back to stock is exactly like going back to that EX girlfriend, Except this time she's picked up Aids from 'Bob' who works at the local junk yard..
You might be curious to see what sleeping with an AIDS infested girl is like, But in the long run, your pinky will probably fall off...
Its the same as going back to stock..... People who have stock ROMs have no pinky.
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I seriously.. SERIOUSLY wish I had a thanks to give you right now. I LoL'd at this

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Going back to stock is exactly like going back to that EX girlfriend, Except this time she's picked up Aids from 'Bob' who works at the local junk yard..
You might be curious to see what sleeping with an AIDS infested girl is like, But in the long run, your pinky will probably fall off...
Its the same as going back to stock..... People who have stock ROMs have no pinky.
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haahhaah thts to explicit but F....King FUNNY... thAnked for the laugh

Not surprisingly, after reading through this thread, any temptation I was feeling to go back to stock has completely vanished.
Thanks!

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MR2 Coming Soon

MR2 will be coming via OTA in the next couple of days MR2 has been through four different revisions and will be based on the 1.70.xx code. There are a number of fixes but the most important should be fixing the reboots and improving the 4G/3G transitions.
I know everyone is waiting for GB which is MR3, but it still needs some time. The good news is that it is being worked on it is already on its fifth SW revision.
Awesome. I can wait for GB no problem, I just want a fix for the reboots. I'm sick of my phone rebooting 5+ times a day, happy an update is coming soon.
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OR... you could just scoot on over to the dev forum and pick yourself up a spiffy new rom built on MR2 which is quite solid and fast and will use the same or very similar radios to what will be in the OTA. I tried a couple of them. They are spartan on fancy stuff, but they are reliable if nothing else. Possibly the most functional and reliable roms over there.
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
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My thoughts exactly. Sure I would like to avoid the reboots (given I have had 2 in a 3 week period), and maybe a faster better radio, but the software and sense is so solid.
need bb said:
MR2 will be coming via OTA in the next couple of days MR2 has been through four different revisions and will be based on the 1.70.xx code. There are a number of fixes but the most important should be fixing the reboots and improving the 4G/3G transitions.
I know everyone is waiting for GB which is MR3, but it still needs some time. The good news is that it is being worked on it is already on its fifth SW revision.
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Where did you get this info?
dcjamies said:
Where did you get this info?
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Flawed info at that. But anyway
The OP history suggests that assumptions and rumors have been listened to and taken as gospel.
animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
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Bingo.. agreed 100%
Coming from HTC devices like the 8525, ATT Tilt, and Touch Pro 2, Ive just about had my share of ROMs for a lifetime. I just want something that works. After paying all this money, Im gonna let Verizon and HTC do what they're supposed to do.
animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
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I agree with wanting an official update, but the stock rom is far from good. Yes the speed is good but the battery life is horrible. With custom roms I have been able to triple my battery life and limit the random reboots I was getting stock, along with the already good speed being improved. Das BAMF Stripped 1.8
animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
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agreed. So far only 1 reboot in 2 weeks (apparently that is good) and I get occasional instances where home button doesn't want to work.
I just wish the damn thing rebooted faster. It takes almost 2 minutes to boot, then another couple of minutes before sense is responsive.
Coming from the hd7 and 25 second boot times, this is killer...
I also made/used custom roms on my q9c, tp2 and hd2, but want to give stock a chance. Maybe I will root if I decide I need to tether, but so far, things are looking good stock.
Pushed to mid July
Lol enjoy stock
crazyhtown said:
Pushed to mid July
Lol enjoy stock
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alot of us are. thanks for your concern.
adrynalyne said:
Flawed info at that. But anyway
The OP history suggests that assumptions and rumors have been listened to and taken as gospel.
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But I read it on the internet, so that has to make it true.
mr2.5 is treating me well and ive had zero reboots. i can wait a bit for the new radio.
crazyhtown said:
Pushed to mid July
Lol enjoy stock
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#1 how do you know it's been pushed back?
#2 i think most on here and happily enjoying gingerbread but thanks for the concern.
Some documents state we will be getting a removal of free mobile hotspot via ota July 6th . Maybe it will be attached to the update .
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Both the MR2 and the MR2.5 have been a good temporary fix for me, until a new radio is released.
Crazyhtown = Lol enjoy stock[/QUOTE said:
Not really called for man. Stock, Ropoted Stock Or GB, Does it really matter, lets just help each other instead of some acting like they are better because you are on something besides stock.
Stock runs very well and so do the roms the devs are busting their butts to put out, still doesn't mean we have to knock each other...
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"mr2" we leaked on the forums is NOT mr2. 1.66/1.67/1.68/1.69 will not be MR2.
I can confirm OP's comments on the current "mr2" candidate version number, and give a approximate release of july 6th. With verizon things are given to change, the release date can change, so can the version being released.
Jrocker23 said:
Not really called for man. Stock, Ropoted Stock Or GB, Does it really matter, lets just help each other instead of some acting like they are better because you are on something besides stock.
Stock runs very well and so do the roms the devs are busting their butts to put out, still doesn't mean we have to knock each other...
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His comment was pretty blunt/unhelpful and rude, but there does tend to be some complaining from those that want to have their cake (those that don't want to root) and eat it too (still want updates/workarounds as quick as those that have root).
Those that seem to be frustrated by such things, perhaps android is not the phone for them or at least android phones that are not officially blessed by google (nexus phones).

Was this even worth it?

Ok, so I've had this phone for about a year now (I rooted it right out the box) and I've been installing new roms and kernals for about a year too. The problem is, I still don't even see a real benefit of rooting. I was a former iOS user and I jailbroke it to get free apps and themes and stuff, which I thought was pretty cool. However, I simply like android better, so I got my HTC Thunderbolt. But I feel that after rooting I have accomplished nothing. Sure I'm able to use SetCPU, but the overclock doesn't even make a huge difference, and it "wears off" within a few minutes. Also, different ROMs all feel the same to me, the only thing that may be different is the look. Gingerbread imo is just a different lockscreen, and I still haven't installed a single theme correctly. Can someone plz argue these points and tell me how to take full advantage of this rooted thunderbolt?
djthunda12123 said:
Ok, so I've had this phone for about a year now (I rooted it right out the box) and I've been installing new roms and kernals for about a year too. The problem is, I still don't even see a real benefit of rooting. I was a former iOS user and I jailbroke it to get free apps and themes and stuff, which I thought was pretty cool. However, I simply like android better, so I got my HTC Thunderbolt. But I feel that after rooting I have accomplished nothing. Sure I'm able to use SetCPU, but the overclock doesn't even make a huge difference, and it "wears off" within a few minutes. Also, different ROMs all feel the same to me, the only thing that may be different is the look. Gingerbread imo is just a different lockscreen, and I still haven't installed a single theme correctly. Can someone plz argue these points and tell me how to take full advantage of this rooted thunderbolt?
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The biggest advantage of rooting my phone is to get rid of all that bloatware crap, block ads and get better battery life. I just got a replacement and had to be on stock for a day before I got a chance to root again. Battery life was horrible with stock. In addition, I personally dont overclock since the phone is running smooth with these roms.
Why root? For me the answer was easy "because I can". I like the fact that I can mod my phone and remove things from it I don't like. Stock is fine and if that is what floats your boat that's cool. It's the same reason you jailbroke you iphone, so it's there when you need it.
Easy response. Free wifi tethering.
For me the biggest reason was for wifi tethering. Blows my mind I would have to pay an additional $30 for tethering ... and that is only for 2GB. It's rare that I use it, but it's nice to have the option.
Other reasons were to either freeze or uninstall apps you can't normally uninstall. I've tried a few roms, but really like sense. So currently running BAMF 1.0.7
If you felt no need to root, then you tried the wrong ROMs or missed doing the useful things that come with it.
djthunda12123 said:
Ok, so I've had this phone for about a year now (I rooted it right out the box) and I've been installing new roms and kernals for about a year too. The problem is, I still don't even see a real benefit of rooting. I was a former iOS user and I jailbroke it to get free apps and themes and stuff, which I thought was pretty cool. However, I simply like android better, so I got my HTC Thunderbolt. But I feel that after rooting I have accomplished nothing. Sure I'm able to use SetCPU, but the overclock doesn't even make a huge difference, and it "wears off" within a few minutes. Also, different ROMs all feel the same to me, the only thing that may be different is the look. Gingerbread imo is just a different lockscreen, and I still haven't installed a single theme correctly. Can someone plz argue these points and tell me how to take full advantage of this rooted thunderbolt?
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I've never heard anyone describe their root experience in such emotionally loaded terms. It's a phone, not a girlfriend. I'm not going to argue with you because I don't have a lot of feelings tied up in my phone and my emotions haven't been placated by rooting it. It's a useful tool that let's me do what I want. I like having a device where I don't run into some stupid wall when I want to do something to it. It's that simple.
loonatik78 said:
I've never heard anyone describe their root experience in such emotionally loaded terms. It's a phone, not a girlfriend. I'm not going to argue with you because I don't have a lot of feelings tied up in my phone and my emotions haven't been placated by rooting it. It's a useful tool that let's me do what I want. I like having a device where I don't run into some stupid wall when I want to do something to it. It's that simple.
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djthunda12123 said:
Ok, so I've had this phone for about a year now (I rooted it right out the box)
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How could you have had your TB for "about a year"? It came out barely 7 months ago.
That hyperbole aside, the reason I rooted my TB (which I did when I got mine back in March) was so that I could take control of my device. Since smartphones are really little computers I want full control of it. I wouldn't stand for not having administrator privileges on any of my other computers, why would I stand for it on my phone? That wouldn't fly if I bought a Dell laptop that was locked down because Dell thought that it would provide a more consistent user experience and it won't fly for me from HTC or Verizon.
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I've never heard anyone describe their root experience in such emotionally loaded terms. It's a phone, not a girlfriend. I'm not going to argue with you because I don't have a lot of feelings tied up in my phone and my emotions haven't been placated by rooting it. It's a useful tool that let's me do what I want. I like having a device where I don't run into some stupid wall when I want to do something to it. It's that simple.
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Well I didn't mean for it to be emotional, I just simply wanted to know the things I can now get out of my phone. Any ROM recommendatons?
djthunda12123 said:
Well I didn't mean for it to be emotional, I just simply wanted to know the things I can now get out of my phone. Any ROM recommendatons?
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Whether it's immediately obvious or not, many of these ROMs are extensively modified. BAMF, Gingeritis, and Synergy, just to name a few that are significantly divergent from stock. Some are little more than stock dressed up pretty. Basically, it boils down to what you want or like. I simply don't recommend ROMs because most of the people that do are idiots follow what they think is a cool trend.
Some people have no real need to root a device. You might be one of them. I'm not. I like playing with different ROMs, kernels, apps that require root, and scripts. It also blocks out XDA's uber-annoying video ads. Everyone has their own reasons and some do it just to be cool, it seems.
People here has obviously touch on most of the benefits of rooting. From debloating to free wifi tether to better battery life. This is all true and also why I rooted, but one of the coolest things for me is being able to flash a rom that allows you to be on a version of android or a UI maybe not available on your device yet. Take for example the TB, it is not suppose to ever get sense 3.0 and months before gingerbread was even release i was on gingerbread and running sense 3.0. Heck you can run sense 3.5 now if you want. So to me, being able to be "ahead of the curve" and run software on your phone that is not even out yet for your device is pretty bad a$$.
djthunda12123 said:
Ok, so I've had this phone for about a year now (I rooted it right out the box) and I've been installing new roms and kernals for about a year too. The problem is, I still don't even see a real benefit of rooting. I was a former iOS user and I jailbroke it to get free apps and themes and stuff, which I thought was pretty cool. However, I simply like android better, so I got my HTC Thunderbolt. But I feel that after rooting I have accomplished nothing. Sure I'm able to use SetCPU, but the overclock doesn't even make a huge difference, and it "wears off" within a few minutes. Also, different ROMs all feel the same to me, the only thing that may be different is the look. Gingerbread imo is just a different lockscreen, and I still haven't installed a single theme correctly. Can someone plz argue these points and tell me how to take full advantage of this rooted thunderbolt?
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loonatik78 said:
Whether it's immediately obvious or not, many of these ROMs are extensively modified. BAMF, Gingeritis, and Synergy, just to name a few that are significantly divergent from stock. Some are little more than stock dressed up pretty. Basically, it boils down to what you want or like. I simply don't recommend ROMs because most of the people that do are idiots follow what they think is a cool trend.
Some people have no real need to root a device. You might be one of them. I'm not. I like playing with different ROMs, kernels, apps that require root, and scripts. It also blocks out XDA's uber-annoying video ads. Everyone has their own reasons and some do it just to be cool, it seems.
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Quoted both of you because I wanted to reply to both of you. First loonatik. Totally agree. Those three are the most popular and I agree with I don't recommend ROMS because im simply not that picky about the major three that for the most part are about as supermodded as you can get. And many of the mods work on all three sense ROMs. So use what ya like.
As for the OP. If you are having trouble installing themes on whichever ROM you're using post on the thread that those roms come on and there will be several people who can help you get it to work right. (yea there are some douche bags on here but for the msot part people will help). The best reasons I have for rooting and keeping my phone rooted are free wifi tethering mainly and also because like another poster said. If you bought a computer and they told you you had to keep all the crapware they send with it and couldnt uninstall it and that you could only use it a certain way then you would surely get a different computer or you would figure out a way to get around it. I like my car but i don't like my stock stereo that came with it. So i changed it. Should that void the warranty on my car? no but HTC and Verizon think it should. Im not ok with that. If you aren't happy with your rooted phone then you can unroot it and use it as stock for a little while just to see the difference. If it makes no difference to you then keep it unrooted but I think you'll probably see that there is a performance difference and a difference in battery life at least.
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Easy response. Free wifi tethering.
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Just curious, what app do you guys use?
Synergyrom is by far the best ROM I've put on my tbolt imo, ...tried em all for bout a week each, but I've stuck w synergy in the end....silky smooth...great kernel...great debt support...and best of all..great batt life....with the extended battery, I can go 50+ hours on one charge with moderate use....heavy use I can still get 30-35 hours no sweat... ..all phones are different though...just try em all and c what your phone prefers...
I must be stupid, because I am going to recommend BAMF soab, it's a 3.5 ROM that is relatively fast, and I love all the new features. To each their own though.
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Synergyrom is by far the best ROM I've put on my tbolt imo, ...tried em all for bout a week each, but I've stuck w synergy in the end....silky smooth...great kernel...great debt support...and best of all..great batt life....with the extended battery, I can go 50+ hours on one charge with moderate use....heavy use I can still get 30-35 hours no sweat... ..all phones are different though...just try em all and c what your phone prefers...
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I'm gonna take you to task on that. First off, the kernel in that ROM makes the entire ROM warez. Ziggy's work is illegal as hell and a blight to the Android/Linux community. Ziggy's kernels have also proven the worst performers as compared to Imoseyon's and Dreamkernel after repeated tests on the same ROMs. Not to mention his kernels have some serious lag issues no other kernel does. Frankly, I think the stock HTC 2.11.605.3 kernel is faster and smoother.
I am going to have to agree with every single person here. Also, I will be the first to admit it. I do feel cool when I get to reROM my phone and show it off to my friends with stock Android phones. Especially when they cry about not having some of the options available to those of us who ROM. Don't get me wrong I know it does not make me cool to ROM. I just feel cool. But in all actuality, the DEV's are the true cool ones. But, sadly some of my friends don't want to "risk bricking or losing there warranties". But, to each there own. I even have a friend with an iPhone. He loves it, it does exactly what he needs it to do un jailbroken.
The one thing that has been elusive to me though, is a good battery life. I am a fan of BAMF. And am running SoaB at the moment. As a matter of fact currently I can not get Callrecorder to work properly on this ROM. Call recording has been my savings grace so many times. Especially when I had to dispute a bill with VZW them selves. And frankly getting the person on the phone to refund what is owed back to me.is a pain in the rear some times. But, it gets done and recorded. Then, when my next bill rolls around and it has not been properly taken care of, I would call back again and have them read the notes back to me from my previous dispute. And if they say that there are no notes. I let them know that I am recording them and that I have the recording to my last dispute. That changes how the whole ball game is played. So for me, call recording is a must. But everything else every one else stated holds just as true for me also. Any way, good luck in the search for that holy grail of a ROM. I have to go. My phone is dying again for the second time today. Time to link up to the grid again.
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Any ROM recommendatons?
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CM7. Solid as a fort and fast as hell.
Even thought I got my Stratosphere, it will be an eon (or two, if ever) that I'll see any development for it, so I kept my Thunderbolt around to fill that void.
Actully 4G phones have unlimited hotspot on Verizon, it's the 30$ plan. There isn't a cap at all, so not sure where you get the 2 gig cap on tethering.
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Sensation user here considering going S-Off and rooting, advice?

Alright, so in the past I've owned an HTC HD2 that I was able to Android on by stumbling though the posts here, a Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant that I was able to root, albeit slowly and clumsily, and also my fiancee's old HTC Mytouch 3G. It has seemed though that after rooting and flashing a custom ROM on each phone, a few months later, problems begin to arise. The phone will start lagging, freezing, crashing, etc. It becomes unresponsive at times, won't receive or send calls/messages at times, etc. Now, I readily admit that this is most likely my fault due to my inexperience, so this raises my next question.
Should I attempt to go S-off and what not with my Sensation? Is it worth the risk? Could someone walk me though it, like leading the blind lol, as where to I won't make any mistakes?
A little background, I love my Sensation, and I really like the Sense 3.0 UI, though some of the widgets not updating, such as Friend Stream and News, is really rather aggravating.
So, with my history of rooted/custom ROM phones going bad, and my being mostly satisfied with my Sensation, should I bother going S-Off and rooting? Will I notice a great improvement in performance? Do any ROMs out there offer a version of Sense 3.0?
Thanks for you help, it is greatly appreciated,
Signed,
A lost noob
The whole process is easier than the hd2. It's a must for me there are plenty of roms and they all will improve the speed of your device
You can overclock your cpu to 1.5 like the processor was intended to be used. Go in to the development thread and there's a noob guide in stickies, read it a few times and go for it its easy and safe if you follow every step.
Roms are installed from sd via cwm like on the hd2
Get reading if your stuck ill help you the best I can.
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Alright, will do, thanks for that.
It'll have to wait a day, I called T-Mobile today to get a replacement phone, as I have dust under my screen, they're sending me a replacement next day air, should arrive tomorrow. That is pretty damn good service if I may say so. Though I have to keep the original back, a shame, as it has a couple nicks that bug me to no end.
Specialk47150 said:
Alright, will do, thanks for that.
It'll have to wait a day, I called T-Mobile today to get a replacement phone, as I have dust under my screen, they're sending me a replacement next day air, should arrive tomorrow. That is pretty damn good service if I may say so. Though I have to keep the original back, a shame, as it has a couple nicks that bug me to no end.
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Be careful, as I almost rooted my phone two months ago when ROM's started flying around this forum. Thankfully I waited, since I am now on my third replacement Sensation because they have all developed dust under the screen. If you root it, dont expect to be able to return it. You better REALLY like that dusty look if you do!
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Be careful, as I almost rooted my phone two months ago when ROM's started flying around this forum. Thankfully I waited, since I am now on my third replacement Sensation because they have all developed dust under the screen. If you root it, dont expect to be able to return it. You better REALLY like that dusty look if you do!
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So wait and be sure that I have a good phone and don't root until I do, ok, lol, thanks.
Assuming this is the guide in question?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
webmaster said:
Be careful, as I almost rooted my phone two months ago when ROM's started flying around this forum. Thankfully I waited, since I am now on my third replacement Sensation because they have all developed dust under the screen. If you root it, dont expect to be able to return it. You better REALLY like that dusty look if you do!
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But you can go back to Stock ROM without root an S-ON. I had to return my device, so I flashed the stock ROM and went back to S-ON. It was no problem at all...
Specialk47150 said:
Assuming this is the guide in question?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
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Apart from Revolutionary not working for three times and CWM not installing through Revolutionary everything went fine. If something doesn't work as expected just google it - there is someone out there with the same problem.
I tried a few ROMs and kernels out there and i can strongly recommend Bulletproof due to its stability. The best about it is that it's stock based (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1214023).
It will work even better with the Bricked Kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668) and system tuner of the market. I am using the new 1.2.5 test-kernel (it's unbelievable fast).
There is only a issue with the camera causing an fc. But you can fix it using the sense 3.5 hack from faux: http://www.multiupload.com/7BIGBQTDLF
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Manuel Büchel said:
Apart from Revolutionary not working for three times and CWM not installing through Revolutionary everything went fine. If something doesn't work as expected just google it - there is someone out there with the same problem.
I tried a few ROMs and kernels out there and i can strongly recommend Bulletproof due to its stability. The best about it is that it's stock based (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1214023).
It will work even better with the Bricked Kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668) and system tuner of the market. I am using the new 1.2.5 test-kernel (it's unbelievable fast).
There is only a issue with the camera causing an fc. But you can fix it using the sense 3.5 hack from faux: http://www.multiupload.com/7BIGBQTDLF
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Yeah, hopefully I don't run into any problems, I'll end up bricking my phone if I do...
As for the ROM, I've been strongly considering Android Revolution HD.
I have never rooted a phone before now. The process was so simple, if you follow the guide correctly. I'm on Android Revolution HD 3.6.2 and loving it. Very fast a stable, no issues or force closing.
Just remember to back up everything.

If you were going to sell your phone which rom would you chose?

I'm selling my inspire 4g i'm going to get a galaxy nexus, i was using Icecold sandwich 7.0 from the desire hd, but the camcorder doesnt work and the keyboard freezes quite a few times, i cant sell my phone like that, would rom woul you flash on the inspire if you were going to sell it, i want something as stock as possible and with great battery life, one of the reasons im selling my inspire is because of the battery life i was getting , 7 hours at most! that's outrageous
Right now my only choice is android revolution but it has sense 3.0 which sucks, i wanted a 3.5 rom but most of them have been themed, 3.5 was never released officialy for the inspire or at leats the desire hd?
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I'm selling my inspire 4g i'm going to get a galaxy nexus, i was using Icecold sandwich 7.0 from the desire hd, but the camcorder doesnt work and the keyboard freezes quite a few times, i cant sell my phone like that, would rom woul you flash on the inspire if you were going to sell it, i want something as stock as possible and with great battery life, one of the reasons im selling my inspire is because of the battery life i was getting , 7 hours at most! that's outrageous
Right now my only choice is android revolution but it has sense 3.0 which sucks, i wanted a 3.5 rom but most of them have been themed, 3.5 was never released officialy for the inspire or at leats the desire hd?
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If you are selling it i would put it back on stock. This way you know everything works and wont have them calling you back to complain. Or you can wait to get the ICS update that is coming soon. (a few months maybe)
zelendel said:
If you are selling it i would put it back on stock. This way you know everything works and wont have them calling you back to complain. Or you can wait to get the ICS update that is coming soon. (a few months maybe)
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The thing is I forgot which one was the stock rom, I don't wanna pit something that old either, I just found out sense 3.5 wasn't officially released for the inspire 4g, what about the desire HD?
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Chad_Petree said:
The thing is I forgot which one was the stock rom, I don't wanna pit something that old either, I just found out sense 3.5 wasn't officially released for the inspire 4g, what about the desire HD?
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No only the DHD got an official 3.0 update.
CM7 or rooted stock
If it were me, I'd sell it with CM7 loaded on there - alternately you can find a rooted stock ROM - here on XDA, iirc. CM7 will offer them more flexibility, but the rooted stock will keep internet passthrough as an option. (Only thing I desperately miss on CM7)
I would never recommend anything other then a stock ROM to an outside party, unless its explicitly stated they want a rooted Inspire. All ROMs have bugs and its nearly impossible to know (unless you're familiar with the party you're selling to) what bugs they can and cannot live with. If the OP wants to sell to an unknown 3rd party, its just good policy to get it back to stock and let them root the phone and do what they want.
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I would never recommend anything other then a stock ROM to an outside party, unless its explicitly stated they want a rooted Inspire. All ROMs have bugs and its nearly impossible to know (unless you're familiar with the party you're selling to) what bugs they can and cannot live with. If the OP wants to sell to an unknown 3rd party, its just good policy to get it back to stock and let them root the phone and do what they want.
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Also unless i knew the person, i wouldnt trust a rooted phone from someone else. No idea what kind of data loggers they have on there or message forwarders, call recorders etc etc. ya its just bad policy to sell modified phones unless requested to do so.
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I would never recommend anything other then a stock ROM to an outside party, unless its explicitly stated they want a rooted Inspire. All ROMs have bugs and its nearly impossible to know (unless you're familiar with the party you're selling to) what bugs they can and cannot live with. If the OP wants to sell to an unknown 3rd party, its just good policy to get it back to stock and let them root the phone and do what they want.
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I've sold two phones with CM7 on them and the people I sold them to had never owned a rooted phone. One of them was coming from an iPhone he had dropped in the sink - both of them were extremely satisfied with CM7 as the ROM. One of them has since gotten a new phone on contract and rooted it himself; the iPhone guy has since sworn off ever owning an apple phone again and still has the rooted inspire.
Give the people what they want, when they wants it, and they wants it all the time... (even if they don't know that's what they want at first.)
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I've sold two phones with CM7 on them and the people I sold them to had never owned a rooted phone. One of them was coming from an iPhone he had dropped in the sink - both of them were extremely satisfied with CM7 as the ROM. One of them has since gotten a new phone on contract and rooted it himself; the iPhone guy has since sworn off ever owning an apple phone again and still has the rooted inspire.
Give the people what they want, when they wants it, and they wants it all the time... (even if they don't know that's what they want at first.)
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Yeah but 2 people out of the entire phone population doesn't sound like it speaks for the majority. When it comes down to it, a 3rd party buyer who is looking at the phone has the same expectation as if it were new i.e. stock ROM on it. If the buyer asks for it rooted obviously its a different story. Not everyone wants a rooted phone, it just seems that way since XDA is all about getting more out of your phone, but the general phone user typically has no idea about rooting, ROMs and the like. Too each their own though, sell the phone whatever way you want, I would just rather sell it stock and not have to deal with non sense that may occur after the fact if something goes screwy.
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Yeah but 2 people out of the entire phone population doesn't sound like it speaks for the majority. When it comes down to it, a 3rd party buyer who is looking at the phone has the same expectation as if it were new i.e. stock ROM on it. If the buyer asks for it rooted obviously its a different story. Not everyone wants a rooted phone, it just seems that way since XDA is all about getting more out of your phone, but the general phone user typically has no idea about rooting, ROMs and the like. Too each their own though, sell the phone whatever way you want, I would just rather sell it stock and not have to deal with non sense that may occur after the fact if something goes screwy.
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Not only that but hopefully that way they cant crate a new account just to make new replies for the same stupid a** questions.
Itll never get old on xda. hahaha.
I would recommend CM7 because it is simple and to the point but still offers alot of flexibility. Although the average user might like a Sense ROM more because of the Facebook integration and such.
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I really don't see how it matters one way or the other. If you take it back to stock, you will most likely get more interested buyers. If you advertise it as rooted, you will attract those buyers that are looking for a rooted phone. There are alot of peeps that want a rooted phone, just so they can do simple stuff like remove bloat, yet are afraid to do it themselves, so you might be able to get a lil more for it rooted. Either way, I doubt you would want to provide your own personal warranty.

what do you think about stock roms

hi i am new on your among and i'm user of htc one x at&t v2.20.i have less information about costum and stock roms.i was surfing on forum and i saw this stock rom.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1838135&page=11
and i'm thinking install this my phone but i didn't find how can i setup.there should unlock bootloader for costum roms.is the same thing
must be for install stock rom.and what do you think about stock roms.should i prefer costum rom?
You can prefer whatever you personally like. Unfortunately you are currently stuck with what you've got until 2.20 is rooted and bl unlocked so you can flash away and find the rom that suits your needs best.
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Yea bro... Do a lot of research, BC it'll be a while before you can root and unlock :thumbdown:
But to add an opinion about your question, once you flash a new rom, you'll probably stick with it for a little while. Then see something else and try it. Then you'll get that blood taste in your mouth and become a flash a holic. Lol. There are some absolutely INCREDIBLE sense roms. Viperxl, cleanrom, team nocturnal are some of the few. But then you'll get tired of sense and try an aosp ROM and you'll love that. Its a weird process bro. I feel like I flash every 2-3 weeks, bouncing from jellybean to sense. Both are awesome.
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Honestly man, I am a serious flashaholic, and although in no way am I implying that stock is better in any fashion I will say that stock 2.20 has been a pleasure to be on. So much so that I have set aside ALL of my other toys and been using my One X full time. granted I am using Apex launcher only because it achieves a basic look I am used to, but that is it. I am actually really enjoying this, if nothing else EVERYTHING works. My battery hasnt been this good on any rom or any of my previous devices. I had 5 hours 48 minutes screen on time last night, sure I only talked on my phone about 2 minutes, and kept my screen brightness on 10%, but for me, that is still the most insane number I have EVER been able to put up and the phone was on 18% when I plugged it in.
I dont know if this phone will ever get rooted but it is not stopping me from using it, I have found cool apps that I would have never known even existed like Notification Toggle, I was getting pretty annoyed having to use a power control widget for my data and wifi, I NEED it to be in the dropdown, the app remedied that situation AND I can make it whatever color I want....HUGE bonus to me. I love Android, and like I said, it is not a replacement for roms, but its a fine substitution for now. The phone performs sweet so its not like I would need to overclock, undervolting, I have never liked the amount of BS you have to wade through to get it perfect, and battery has been fine for me anyway.
Sure a nice CLEAN CM rom, or even stripped stock, is nice but I am just going to enjoy using this thing for a while. Being a Sammy fanboy forever has given me the ability to flash a thousand roms, and although there is some things to be missed, I have no regrets about this phone. I personally dont have devices long enough to think like it is going to kill me to use it for a while. It looks beautiful, not a lot of people have them, so everywhere I go people are asking what phone I have....which....yeah, I think is cool, and everyone likes it.
Last, for me personally the phone has caused me to start peering into areas I have not even thought about in a long time, I have spent countless hours reading thread after thread for possible ways we can get this bootloader unlocked or even root this puppy. It has actually been nice spending time doing, what I joined XDA to learn about doing .
As mentioned, if you bought the phone with 2.20 (or OTA'ed to 2.20 before unlocking the bootloader or at least SuperCID) than you can't flash anything. You are stuck to official AT&T firmware.
The 2.29 stock firmware you linked is not much different from 2.20 AT&T stock, anyway. I think they are the same, actually, aside from AT&T's bloatware.
Coming from an Aria with CM7, the biggest things I want to fix on my One X with 2.20 is to ditch the bloat. This phone rocks very nicely even on the stock ROM, but it's like a car with enough power to do 200 mph limited to 155.
If there is any way a relative noob like myself can help with getting 2.20 rooted, I'm in, but I wouldn't know where to start at this point.

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