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Why do you stay Stock?

I really have no idea why a lot of you guys are still on stock?
This is my very first android, and i took 2 hours reading and another hour asking questions. and another hour rooting my phone.
Just root your damn phone.

I have 3 kids. Taking 3 hours out of my day to root my phone is not an option.
I did make time to mess with my htc incredible only because is was a one click trick.

30 minutes a day.. its worth it.

your question should have been "why do you stay unrooted".. THAT it understandable.
Stock ROM is pretty good though.

Cute dog. is there a way to edit topics?

I stayed unrooted for about three weeks. It took me that long to work up the nerve to root. After I'd read the procedure through a few times, asked a few questions, and, most importantly, satisfied myself that it was entirely reversible, I went for it.

I'm still stock because flashing roms and losing some of my settings got old on my Nexus One. I simply tired of flashing kernels, radios, roms, themes and never really being any happier than I was to start with. Been there done that. I did the whole "I got my first android and want to be like the cool kids and root". I've been using Android and flashing roms for years.
I was always tweaking and I would improve one thing, and another thing would be degraded or broken.I would get better battery life but have to deal with reboots. I would get great GPS but then wifi would break, or the device would get hot...or it would be stable and basically like it was before I ever even rooted in the first place.
CM7 was the best I used(most stable anyway), but even then I got really bored. I tried some Sense roms and really liked them but they were all buggy as hell as well. So I decided to get a Sense device. IF I hated Sense, I would certainly root but then again if I hated sense I wouldn't have bought the Tbolt.
So far I have not had one reboot, not one single issue except that GPS can be slow once in awhile, but then I see folks with rooted devices, flashed kernels and radios complaining of the same thing. Today I went all over town and GPS worked great...it's a random thing.
When I see a rom I HAVE TO HAVE, I'll root and flash it, but so far I have not seen anything that makes me want give up my perfectly working device/os.
With the Nexus One I found the Flavored Ice themes and fell in love with Dark Cherry. I rooted just so I could have that theme. Unfortunately theming is difficult for Sense so there are not really many themes to lure me in.
Some things I DO miss from being rooted, Ad-Free, SetCPU(but again usually ahve to live with some reboots which I hate), being able to flash some cool things like the Hulu apk. no getting around it there are things I miss from being rooted.
However, I have a rooted Moto Zoom and I use that now more than my TBolt. My TBolt has become more like a phone again and I just want it stable for phones calls and navigation.
As a matter of fact, I have rejected Verizon's update because for ONCE I have a device that I am perfectly happy with as is.
If I were going to root it would be to flash this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013577
and then install ad-free and a few other apps I miss. As it stands I can afford to pay for tethering so I don't even have any motivation to root for free tethering.
I know, what about bloat? Well I have over a hundred apps installed and I still have 1.97 GB of space left. I came from Nexus One where with zero apps installed I had 120MB of free app space! The apps simply don't bother me being there om my Tbolt. Space isn't an issue for me.
To wrap it up, my battery life is fine, my phone call quality is superior to anything I've ever had. I love the sense UI and my device/os is stable as hell.
I am happy.
PS: FWIW, I did root my TBolt using the one click method at android central just to make sure it would work with the USB port on my computer, I then promptly unrooted it. I can re-root anytime I want. No hurry and I may very well never re-root, especially given that I will be again upgrading my phone again as soon as the next best thing is released(that is not the Charge).

Old MuckenMire said:
I'm still stock because flashing roms and losing some of my settings got old on my Nexus One. I simply tired of flashing kernels, radios, roms, themes and never really being any happier than I was to start with. Been there done that. I did the whole "I got my first android and want to be like the cool kids and root". I've been using Android and flashing roms for years.
I was always tweaking and I would improve one thing, and another thing would be degraded or broken.I would get better battery life but have to deal with reboots. I would get great GPS but then wifi would break, or the device would get hot...or it would be stable and basically like it was before I ever even rooted in the first place.
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While I am rooted, I know exactly what you mean. I am on Das BAMF 1.6.2 and am planning to stay put for awhile. Sometimes I fail to use the best features of my phone because I've recently flashed and don't want to input my user name and PW into Pandora while I am driving down the freeway.
Once we have RIL and are officially supported by CM7 I will get back into the flashing game. I am not a big fan of Sense and have done my best to avoid it on my device using LP, Contapps, Handcent

Guysm
If you flash new roms every day, how do you rebuild your desktops, reinstall apps, etc? You do this procedure every day????

nricci said:
If you flash new roms every day, how do you rebuild your desktops, reinstall apps, etc? You do this procedure every day????
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Appbrain reinstalls all your apps. Resetting icons/widgets takes 2 mins, tops

nricci said:
Guysm
If you flash new roms every day, how do you rebuild your desktops, reinstall apps, etc? You do this procedure every day????
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I don't think a lot of people flash new roms everyday.
Usually if you are updating a Rom, like from Das bamf 162 to 163, you don't need to wipe. apps, texts, layout, and what not stay the same.
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MoreGone said:
While I am rooted, I know exactly what you mean. I am on Das BAMF 1.6.2 and am planning to stay put for awhile. Sometimes I fail to use the best features of my phone because I've recently flashed and don't want to input my user name and PW into Pandora while I am driving down the freeway.
Once we have RIL and are officially supported by CM7 I will get back into the flashing game. I am not a big fan of Sense and have done my best to avoid it on my device using LP, Contapps, Handcent
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I was the same way with Slacker over the past year. especially because I was rooted and used A2SD, it would always log me out even if I hadn't recently flashed. Slacker just doesn't seem to like being on the SD card and hold the password at the same time. At the end of the day I'm not in any way against rooting and I'm glad it's there as an option for when I get bored. I always do get bored, either with stock or flashing roms...or just with any given device itself.
headcheese said:
I don't think a lot of people flash new roms everyday.
Usually if you are updating a Rom, like from Das bamf 162 to 163, you don't need to wipe. apps, texts, layout, and what not stay the same.
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This is correct. The issue is not UPDATING roms...you get to keep all your settings that way. The issue is having to wipe before flashing a new rom. Me personally, it takes me a whole hell of a lot longer than two minutes to get everything back the way I want it. Downloading all my apps is not the issue. It's getting all of the settings for over a hundred apps back the way I want. Just as an example. Every website I visit I log into with a password. I use Skyfire, stock, Dolphin HD. When I wipe I have to go back and re-log into every damn website I visit again...and I have to do it every time I want to try a new rom...which ends up being often because once you flash one, it leads to another and another, always searching for that perfect rom. I often did flash at least every other day. Most developers would update their rom, fixing or adding something and the temptation was too strong not to test drive it again. But liek I said it makes the device never feel complete because I never settled on anything long term.
I will say this tho, it was rooting and flashing that made me realize how much I enjoyed Sense UI. I tried EVERY rom there was for the N1 and never enjoyed anything the way I did Sense(although I did love ROD's MIUI MoD rom for N1+ LauncherPro Plus...it was quick as hell and had beautiful transitions, not as stable as CM7 tho) and thru root and flashing you can try different UI's and find the one that is right for you. So rooting and flashing is definitely a great thing and like I said I'm glad it's an option I have to admit I miss that little high you get while waiting for a new rom to flash. Wondering if you've soft bricked, and the anticipation of seeing all the goodies new roms contain. The feeling of having total control over your device is nice too.

sublimaze said:
Appbrain reinstalls all your apps. Resetting icons/widgets takes 2 mins, tops
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Doesn't TiBackup reinstall your apps just as well? I don't use Appbrain so I don't know the benefit.

KarukTribe said:
I have 3 kids. Taking 3 hours out of my day to root my phone is not an option.
I did make time to mess with my htc incredible only because is was a one click trick.
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I have four kids and a large closet. Adapt and overcome.

major_works said:
I stayed unrooted for about three weeks. It took me that long to work up the nerve to root. After I'd read the procedure through a few times, asked a few questions, and, most importantly, satisfied myself that it was entirely reversible, I went for it.
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+1 to this, exactly what I though too.
I bricked my Droid X a couple of times, and was able to get it back every time, but it taught me to be careful.

I flash a new Rom daily and set up a whole new theme every time I always got a new phone that way lol
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major_works said:
I stayed unrooted for about three weeks. It took me that long to work up the nerve to root. After I'd read the procedure through a few times, asked a few questions, and, most importantly, satisfied myself that it was entirely reversible, I went for it.
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I did this too. I plugged my phone into the USB and it took me another hour of rereading the guide before I finally got the nerve to start
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I'm sure I'll root eventually, I'm just kinda in the same boat as MuckenMire, tired on the endless rom shuffle. The TBolt is my first Android, but I'm coming from a number of WinMo 6.x devices. As some of you probably know from experience you pretty much had to flash a custom rom to make many of those phones usable. The Tbolt is a much better user experience stock than any of my old WinMo devices were with custom roms. Right now the bloatware would be the only reason I would bother with root. This phone is fast, stable and highly customizable stock. Right now I just don't see a compelling reason to root it.
That being said, first time I need to teather and VZW wants to charge me, I will probably root. I don't do it often enough to justify paying extra for it.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt

I love all these people who claim they are so busy, really come on, you obviously have time if you browse the XDA forums and Im sure you spend a lot of time on facebook.
Get over yourself.
Sorry for this Trollin, It just irritates me.

mitchell4500 said:
I love all these people who claim they are so busy, really come on, you obviously have time if you browse the XDA forums and Im sure you spend a lot of time on facebook.
Get over yourself.
Sorry for this Trollin, It just irritates me.
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I'm over myself. I have time, but I just don't want to root. I'm happy with what I have. None of the roms look that great to me, so why bother? Why do some of you feel like everyone has to root. Like we're idiots cause we're running stock. Why do you really care what others are doing?

Never had a problem until the 2.3.4 update

I got my Nexus S the first day it came out back in December. I never suffered from any of the other complaints that many others have posted. All was good until I got the 2.3.4 update. Ever since 2.3.4 landed on my phone, I've started to become a victim to the notorious random reboot bug for the first time ever. I must have had at least 6 reboots occur in the middle of phone conversations & one or two random ones while I was not in the middle of a call. It's starting to piss me off. Anyone else have this issue since the update??

Are you rooted or just running 2.3.4 stock?

MotorcycleKopp said:
I got my Nexus S the first day it came out back in December. I never suffered from any of the other complaints that many others have posted. All was good until I got the 2.3.4 update. Ever since 2.3.4 landed on my phone, I've started to become a victim to the notorious random reboot bug for the first time ever. I must have had at least 6 reboots occur in the middle of phone conversations & one or two random ones while I was not in the middle of a call. It's starting to piss me off. Anyone else have this issue since the update??
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having Nexus S for 2 weeks or so no restarts, call drops etc... running 2.3.4 GRJ22/KD1

obsanity said:
Are you rooted or just running 2.3.4 stock?
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I'm all stock. Never rooted yet.

Using a case?
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zephiK said:
Using a case?
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I used that Platinum case from Best Buy for the first couple months, but have since been going without one. Only thing I still got on my phone now is a Zagg screen protector.

Its odd that you're getting reboots :/ you can root and fix your problems by yourself
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Really? Hmmm I never really looked into rooting too much before & I definitely didn't know that it could resolve issues like mine. I might just have to look into rooting now, if no other advice or fix gets brought up. I'd prefer not to root, but I guess that's just because I've never done it before.
Would rooting by itself resolve my issues? Or would I need to do some additional steps like programing or something as well? (I have no experience with programing either)

MotorcycleKopp said:
Really? Hmmm I never really looked into rooting too much before & I definitely didn't know that it could resolve issues like mine. I might just have to look into rooting now, if no other advice or fix gets brought up. I'd prefer not to root, but I guess that's just because I've never done it before.
Would rooting by itself resolve my issues? Or would I need to do some additional steps like programing or something as well? (I have no experience with programing either)
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No. Rooting requires no programming knowledge at all. With a phone like the Nexus S, it's so easy to unlock. It's not a one-click as other phones but it doesn't require a exploit to root.
All rooting requires is a person to follow the instructions provided to them. The hardest part to the rooting process is installing the drivers for it. It's not that hard but people always get confused on installing the ADB drivers.
The biggest thing with rooting that would resolve your "rebooting" problem is flashing a more stable kernel. A lot of people (including myself) agree that Netarchy's 1.3.4 kernel is more stable than the stock kernel provided by Google. The only downside to rooting for you at this point is that you'll lose all of your data upon unlocking the bootloader. It is a security measure.

Good info. I appreciate it. Sounds like I need to start backing everything up & researching rooting and flashing kernels. Any good links or posts that you recommend on these topics?

MotorcycleKopp said:
Good info. I appreciate it. Sounds like I need to start backing everything up & researching rooting and flashing kernels. Any good links or posts that you recommend on these topics?
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Check out the stickied posts in Nexus S General. If you ever need help, I'm more than willing to help you out but at least give it a try out on your own but if there are any preliminary questions. I'm more than willing to answer them.
Kernels: no need to read up on them. Netarchy's 1.3.4 kernel is what you want. Hands down. Netarchy destroys the competition in terms of kernels for daily usage.
Trinity is the type for people who wants to maximize the most out of their phone but it can be heavily unstable for some people and focuses more on hardcore OCing and things like that.
Stock modded kernel: no thanks.
Netarchy offers the most features that you'd want. OC is there but its optional, its left at the stock clocks of 1.0 GHz. If you want more than that, you'd have to set it on your own.
Overall summary of the rooting process,
- Install ADB drivers / set up Android SDK
- Get it to detect your device
- fastboot oem unlock
- fastboot flash recovery whatevertherecovery.img is
- Go into recovery
- Flash away! (if you want to use stock ROM + root then just flash the su.zip in the stickied thread)
At most it'll take you roughly maybe 10 minutes to do? Maybe even less than that, it's really simple.

What has been your experience with rooting your Sensation?

I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?

I rooted my sensation just Cos I did the same to my old x10 mini, I found rooting it was easy following the guide on here and flashing new roms is easy too, all I can suggest is that you read the instructions, try different roms to see which one works for you and don't forget that rooting voids your warranty
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When flashing custom roms are you losing all installed apps each time and finding you need to restore via titanium? I ask because I've seen threads say you do and don't lose your installed apps and data.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk

johnny0313x said:
I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
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Heyya,
I'm pretty new here and my experience with android devices was 0 up to three weeks ago when i decided to buy the sensation. I then stumbled upon XDA dev forum and now i'm hooked .
I decided to root and flash a custom rom three days after getting the phone... as far as eye candy goes Sense is brilliant but the functionality is 0.
The whole process of installing clockwork, perm rooting and flashing a custom rom took exactly twenty minutes and was no hassle at all.
At the moment i run P3d Neon-No Sense and the phone is a whole lot better. Battery life is double, RAM consumption is 1/2 and overall the performance is great.
So... my advice... root and flash away!

Thanks jeryko that's the kinda thing I was looking to hear. The sensations touch screen is the only reason I'm Leary about voiding the warrenty with rooting. If you unroot the device can they still tell?
I love sense I think it integrates things nicely and visually (with the exception of a few minor things) and gives a way more polished premium feel to devices. However as stated above it does bog down the phone a bit...even with the dual core. HTC really should have added 1gb of ram I think. Overall though my phones not slow just sometimes a little stutter here and there.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

ive rooted my sensation, well i at least i did / was rooted before the update came out. to be honest i haven't seen any reason to reroot. i still have a unlocked boot loader but the urge to root and flash roms isnt really there for me yet. this is probably because i am happy with sense 3.0 and the phone doesnt lag for me at all after the latest update. the only real thing that will probably get me to root again is when a good aosp rom releases or CM7. i really miss having then bluetooth capabilities of a stock aosp rom

No problem. Well... the sensation has it's drawbacks but price/quality it's definitely worth the money.
About the warranty issue... can't really tell you... I've read on the forum that you can Switch back to stock rom and kernel and S-ON again but the procedure (for S-ON) is a bit risky and frankly i have no clue if after you go through all that there's any way of telling that the phone has been tampered with... you'll have to ask the older and wiser folks around here for a knowledgeable answer.

Root it, stop delaying the inevitable.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G

johnny0313x said:
occasional glitchy things that happen with it
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And that's why I don't regret going s-off and flashing custom ROMs. Root just comes with the territory.
Funny thing, I went custom on my Sensation within the first week while I left my wife's stock. Fast forward three weeks later, I was pretty satisfied with the speed and stability on my phone. I pick up my wife's phone and unlock it to surf the net. First thing that happens? Random restart and back to the HTC splash screen. Really?? I'd totally forgotten about the random restarts and choppy home screen scrolling. Ended up s-offing that thing and flashing a custom ROM that same night. She hasn't complained about her phone since.

I'm so tempted....you guys are evil lol Seriously though the only thing holding me back is the warrenty being voided. I didn't care so much with my G2(that thing was the most reliable phone ever) but the sensation is still new and I'm skeptical about how long the hardware will keep up and all. My biggest complaint would be the volume on some things ...everything else works great though except an occasional lack of response until I lock and unlock the phone...which is rare.
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The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it

EddyOS said:
The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
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Agreed....

I unlocked the bootloader as soon as I could and started loading custom ROMs. I've been running the P3D ROM (Sense version) for a few weeks now, and it's doubled my battery life plus it's faster. My brother has his Sensation still S-ON stock (latest OTA update) and we compared it side by side and we both agreed mine is noticeably faster. I also like the blue neon theme with that ROM.
Even that particular ROM aside, I've had generally better battery life with anything other than the stock ROM. That alone is enough reason to do it IMO.
Link to P3D ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206746

Ok I know that I am a noob to rooting and installing roms. Currently I am on my second one Android Revolution HD™ 3.0.3. Rooting it was the best thing I've done. i wish I would have gotten the balls to root years ago!

Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk

I am very happy with my rooted Sensation. My previous phone was a rooted Nexus One. I can say that rooting is a great way of customizing your phone to your liking.

gustav30 said:
Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk
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Titanium batch, best app purchase for the crack flasher. I timed myself, 30 mins tops to go from one rom to another
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G

+1 for Titanium batch! A must for all heavy Flashers

We should have root access out of the box. Too much fun stuff, but impossible to find a ROM perfect for you. Your going to tweak something eventually

just got my sensation 4g still in box..first thing on to do list is "root it and boot it"
currently running HTC HD2 with ndt miui rom...love it but got to have that 4g

Coming from hd2 sensation to the real thing!

Hi all, after 2 years of modding my HD2 with wm6.5, wp7 and tons of android builds, I'm upgrading to a sensation. I've read a lot of the threads but it seems less straight forward to hack this phone. I think i understand it, is s-off like flashing the bootloader so i can root it?

elgrego4 said:
Hi all, after 2 years of modding my HD2 with wm6.5, wp7 and tons of android builds, I'm upgrading to a sensation. I've read a lot of the threads but it seems less straight forward to hack this phone. I think i understand it, is s-off like flashing the bootloader so i can root it?
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Hi,
I'm not sure which threads you have read,but THIS THREAD will take you through the four stages to get your phone ready to install any custom ROM.

That's a lot of stuff to do just to hack my phone, i remember it being so much easier. I need a bit of help, I have just moved house and dont have broadband. I can get all the downloads whilst at work but no connection at home to the revolution site. Is there any other way of getting s-off without a live internet connection?

elgrego4 said:
That's a lot of stuff to do just to hack my phone, i remember it being so much easier. I need a bit of help, I have just moved house and dont have broadband. I can get all the downloads whilst at work but no connection at home to the revolution site. Is there any other way of getting s-off without a live internet connection?
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Hi,
It seems like a lot, but it is no more than you did for the hd2.
I cannot see a way round the live connection. Revolution has to check the code it gives you.
You might have to wait till you get your broadband.

I feel so restricted with an unrooted orange branded phone.

Panic over, I had everything sdk and sync wise already from doing the hd2, I then got onto the web using usb tethering and after that everything is s-off, rooted, cwr and revolution HD rom installed. Im back in the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

elgrego4 said:
Panic over, I had everything sdk and sync wise already from doing the hd2, I then got onto the web using usb tethering and after that everything is s-off, rooted, cwr and revolution HD rom installed. Im back in the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi,
Glad you sorted it out.
I notice you are using ARHD 3.6.8.
Please check my signature for a selection of new lockrings and battery % Mods.

Welcome to Sensation

elgrego4 said:
Hi all, after 2 years of modding my HD2 with wm6.5, wp7 and tons of android builds, I'm upgrading to a sensation. I've read a lot of the threads but it seems less straight forward to hack this phone. I think i understand it, is s-off like flashing the bootloader so i can root it?
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Many thanks to all involved, I and many others went from a handset incapable of delivering texts (sent to outbox!!) to the best phone (boy's toy) ever.
I followed a similar road to the above post. However I ended up with Tween's cm7 with Doriamnx's kernal. Loved the tablet tweeks as buttons were already replaced twice, and the cm7 advanced setings.
Can or will anyone make an educated guess to when I could get the sensation(xe) to this level of usability with cm7 or Senseless build.
Ta

olderbloke said:
Many thanks to all involved, I and many others went from a handset incapable of delivering texts (sent to outbox!!) to the best phone (boy's toy) ever.
I followed a similar road to the above post. However I ended up with Tween's cm7 with Doriamnx's kernal. Loved the tablet tweeks as buttons were already replaced twice, and the cm7 advanced setings.
Can or will anyone make an educated guess to when I could get the sensation(xe) to this level of usability with cm7 or Senseless build.
Ta
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Hi,
I take it you have not got a Sensation yet.
CM7 is still experimental and not fully developed .
ARHD,which I'm on,does have a senseless version,which people rate.
So there is hope for you yet.

malybru said:
Hi,
I take it you have not got a Sensation yet.
CM7 is still experimental and not fully developed .
ARHD,which I'm on,does have a senseless version,which people rate.
So there is hope for you yet.
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Had a sensation xe for a week now. So far S-off,cwm & rooted. With Orange Uk. all stock at the mo. Radio, kernal & rom. would like good camera over xmas. (something hd2 never quite cracked imo on Android).

olderbloke said:
would like good camera over xmas. (something hd2 never quite cracked imo on Android).
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um, you shoud've bought the SGSII if you wanted to take better photos than the HD2 ; ) Only kidding, well, sort of. So far for me the biggest disappointment of the Sensation is the camera, especially indoors. It takes great macro shots in low light (even pitch black), but every other indoor shot I've taken has soooo much noise in it, even in well lit rooms. I'm not that impressed with photos taken outside either - doesn't feel like that much of a step up from the Leo to me, especially given the two year difference between them. Build quality, or perhaps quality of design is behind the Leo too. I've had to put four small pieces of Blu-tack inside to stop the creaking, LOL.
I'm still really enjoying it though.
Can either of you fellow Sensation Noobs see Nova 2 or Shadowgun in the Android Market? I can't. Via the web I just get an error saying my device is incompatible even though I know they'll run.

I got shadowgun from another market

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I got shadowgun from another market
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Yes, but what malware did it come with? I'd rather just buy it from the main Android Market and be done with it to be honest. Well, if I could!

Ouzo said:
Yes, but what malware did it come with? I'd rather just buy it from the main Android Market and be done with it to be honest. Well, if I could!
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Try turning Fastboot off.

[Q] Is it safe to get this phone now?

Is it safe to get this phone presently? Has all the hardware issues been cleared out? I'm looking to pick one up soon second hand. Can anyone point out to me what manufacturing periods I should avoid? Or anything that might help me point out to a dud of a G2X that might have random reboots, overheating issues, etc?
Gonna start prowling on Craigslist to see if I have any luck.

Some people continue to have issues to this day while others dont so there really isnt a consistent way to know if the phone will work properly or not.

regP said:
Some people continue to have issues to this day while others dont so there really isnt a consistent way to know if the phone will work properly or not.
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Thank you. I guess I'll scratch that idea of getting this phone. Don't want to risk dealing with the hassle and headaches of buying a phone of CL only to find out that it's rebooting like crazy.

Honestly, I hated this phone when I first it, but after getting into using custom ROMs and kernels, I love it. Bottom line is this: if you want a phone that you will use stock, don't get it. If you plan to run a custom ROM and especially if you're even relatively knowledgeable or intelligent grab one if you can get it at a good price. We even have an alpha of ICS out which isn't half bad, it is an alpha so it can be problematic at times.
Edit: also if you want to get into running custom ROMS then definitely go for it, if you can read and follow directions exactly this phone is awesome in that its next to impossible to permanently brick it.
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Honestly, I hated this phone when I first it, but after getting into using custom ROMs and kernels, I love it. Bottom line is this: if you want a phone that you will use stock, don't get it. If you plan to run a custom ROM and especially if you're even relatively knowledgeable or intelligent grab one if you can get it at a good price. We even have an alpha of ICS out which isn't half bad, it is an alpha so it can be problematic at times.
Edit: also if you want to get into running custom ROMS then definitely go for it, if you can read and follow directions exactly this phone is awesome in that its next to impossible to permanently brick it.
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What worries me is if it has hardware issues that causes random reboots or overheating issues. I remember reading this when the phone first came out. Other users also had GPS issues, etc.
I'd be willing to get one if the price is right on CL but these things makes me nervous. Any tips on what things I could "try" while testing the phone out on CL or things to look out for? I know the other user said it would be hard to tell...but at this point, anything would be helpful.

I' m digging mine.
edekalil
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Mine is 100%. Just use a Cm7 stable release for the next little bit (some issues in the newer nightlies).

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Mine is 100%. Just use a Cm7 stable release for the next little bit (some issues in the newer nightlies).
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By the way, how's the issue with development with regards to a closed source code?
I remember last time that one of the issues why development was so stale on this phone was due to the closed source nature of the Tegra chip. Is this still the case?

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By the way, how's the issue with development with regards to a closed source code?
I remember last time that one of the issues why development was so stale on this phone was due to the closed source nature of the Tegra chip. Is this still the case?
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Last time I checked there was active development. Regardless we do have an Alpha of CM9 which if you're aware of the implications of using an Alpha and are ok with it, is good. As far as teh Tegra crap, yea, I think we would have seen a release alot sooner if NVidia wasn't closed-fisted. Otherwise, that's one of the only major downfalls of the alpha is that there is no hardware acceleration, so some ICS specific apps won't run or won't run right.
As far as testing, just do regular stuff, do a litttle browsing, install an app, play a video look to see if it's physically damaged AT ALL, etc. As far as teh GPS, it is an odd one, but I have a method which works 100% for me:
GPS status (download GPS aiding data)>reboot>GPS status to get lock>maps
I also did that and instead of maps I launched Locus and it also got a lock.

Just a note Craigs List not the best place to buy a cell. Do a search, too many horror stories about bad phones.

We just got ics so based on hardware and software specs if your willing to root and flash still a top of the libe phone with bad battery life hah
Pin it to Win it.

If you want I could sell you mine for 250 shipped. Running whatever rom you want. Pm me.

I'm one of the ones who never had any major issues as constant overheating or rebooting...rooted since day 1by the way and with ics roms out its even better. If its dirt cheap I recommend it

It depends, its a decent size and speed. I had mine clocked at the 1500 on eaglesblood and the faux123 kernel stopped the daily SODs (sleep of death). But I wiped it and gave it to my GF only to have the SODs return on the same Rom and Kernel that had gotten rid of it for me. There is also an overheating issue, I was on my second battery in 2 months without clocking the cpu and the smell is horrible, this is a huge issue with these phones.

I think that the phone itself is a great piece of hardware that needs a lot of customizing to get it to where you want it. In the hardware department you get a lot of bang for your buck but it is almost a requirement to install a custom rom to get day to day smooth functionality that we want. Fortunately there is a good number of roms to choose from that you can sample and find one which that best suits your needs

This phone is like having a beautiful wife that just don't act right. It will drive you crazy at times but you just can't keep your hands off it.
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Lol so true

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Thank you. I guess I'll scratch that idea of getting this phone. Don't want to risk dealing with the hassle and headaches of buying a phone of CL only to find out that it's rebooting like crazy.
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I just bought one off of Craigslist and am very happy with it. I gave my wife my T-Mobile galaxy s 2 because I didnt like the way the screen isn't sharp and lack of development for now. I started using her sensation but was not impressed so I bought the G2X. Way better than the sensation I might add. The screen is very impressive, looks better than the sensation,gs2 and my old vibrant. I was really shocked. Battery life though seems to be an issue but I will work it out. The camera is better than the sensation but the gs2 has the best camera I have seen to date. If I were you I would buy one. And yes I do a lot of phone swapping, I think I have owed every Android phone that came out for T-Mobile starting with the G1