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I really have no idea why a lot of you guys are still on stock?
This is my very first android, and i took 2 hours reading and another hour asking questions. and another hour rooting my phone.
Just root your damn phone.
I have 3 kids. Taking 3 hours out of my day to root my phone is not an option.
I did make time to mess with my htc incredible only because is was a one click trick.
30 minutes a day.. its worth it.
your question should have been "why do you stay unrooted".. THAT it understandable.
Stock ROM is pretty good though.
Cute dog. is there a way to edit topics?
I stayed unrooted for about three weeks. It took me that long to work up the nerve to root. After I'd read the procedure through a few times, asked a few questions, and, most importantly, satisfied myself that it was entirely reversible, I went for it.
I'm still stock because flashing roms and losing some of my settings got old on my Nexus One. I simply tired of flashing kernels, radios, roms, themes and never really being any happier than I was to start with. Been there done that. I did the whole "I got my first android and want to be like the cool kids and root". I've been using Android and flashing roms for years.
I was always tweaking and I would improve one thing, and another thing would be degraded or broken.I would get better battery life but have to deal with reboots. I would get great GPS but then wifi would break, or the device would get hot...or it would be stable and basically like it was before I ever even rooted in the first place.
CM7 was the best I used(most stable anyway), but even then I got really bored. I tried some Sense roms and really liked them but they were all buggy as hell as well. So I decided to get a Sense device. IF I hated Sense, I would certainly root but then again if I hated sense I wouldn't have bought the Tbolt.
So far I have not had one reboot, not one single issue except that GPS can be slow once in awhile, but then I see folks with rooted devices, flashed kernels and radios complaining of the same thing. Today I went all over town and GPS worked great...it's a random thing.
When I see a rom I HAVE TO HAVE, I'll root and flash it, but so far I have not seen anything that makes me want give up my perfectly working device/os.
With the Nexus One I found the Flavored Ice themes and fell in love with Dark Cherry. I rooted just so I could have that theme. Unfortunately theming is difficult for Sense so there are not really many themes to lure me in.
Some things I DO miss from being rooted, Ad-Free, SetCPU(but again usually ahve to live with some reboots which I hate), being able to flash some cool things like the Hulu apk. no getting around it there are things I miss from being rooted.
However, I have a rooted Moto Zoom and I use that now more than my TBolt. My TBolt has become more like a phone again and I just want it stable for phones calls and navigation.
As a matter of fact, I have rejected Verizon's update because for ONCE I have a device that I am perfectly happy with as is.
If I were going to root it would be to flash this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013577
and then install ad-free and a few other apps I miss. As it stands I can afford to pay for tethering so I don't even have any motivation to root for free tethering.
I know, what about bloat? Well I have over a hundred apps installed and I still have 1.97 GB of space left. I came from Nexus One where with zero apps installed I had 120MB of free app space! The apps simply don't bother me being there om my Tbolt. Space isn't an issue for me.
To wrap it up, my battery life is fine, my phone call quality is superior to anything I've ever had. I love the sense UI and my device/os is stable as hell.
I am happy.
PS: FWIW, I did root my TBolt using the one click method at android central just to make sure it would work with the USB port on my computer, I then promptly unrooted it. I can re-root anytime I want. No hurry and I may very well never re-root, especially given that I will be again upgrading my phone again as soon as the next best thing is released(that is not the Charge).
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I'm still stock because flashing roms and losing some of my settings got old on my Nexus One. I simply tired of flashing kernels, radios, roms, themes and never really being any happier than I was to start with. Been there done that. I did the whole "I got my first android and want to be like the cool kids and root". I've been using Android and flashing roms for years.
I was always tweaking and I would improve one thing, and another thing would be degraded or broken.I would get better battery life but have to deal with reboots. I would get great GPS but then wifi would break, or the device would get hot...or it would be stable and basically like it was before I ever even rooted in the first place.
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While I am rooted, I know exactly what you mean. I am on Das BAMF 1.6.2 and am planning to stay put for awhile. Sometimes I fail to use the best features of my phone because I've recently flashed and don't want to input my user name and PW into Pandora while I am driving down the freeway.
Once we have RIL and are officially supported by CM7 I will get back into the flashing game. I am not a big fan of Sense and have done my best to avoid it on my device using LP, Contapps, Handcent
Guysm
If you flash new roms every day, how do you rebuild your desktops, reinstall apps, etc? You do this procedure every day????
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If you flash new roms every day, how do you rebuild your desktops, reinstall apps, etc? You do this procedure every day????
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Appbrain reinstalls all your apps. Resetting icons/widgets takes 2 mins, tops
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Guysm
If you flash new roms every day, how do you rebuild your desktops, reinstall apps, etc? You do this procedure every day????
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I don't think a lot of people flash new roms everyday.
Usually if you are updating a Rom, like from Das bamf 162 to 163, you don't need to wipe. apps, texts, layout, and what not stay the same.
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While I am rooted, I know exactly what you mean. I am on Das BAMF 1.6.2 and am planning to stay put for awhile. Sometimes I fail to use the best features of my phone because I've recently flashed and don't want to input my user name and PW into Pandora while I am driving down the freeway.
Once we have RIL and are officially supported by CM7 I will get back into the flashing game. I am not a big fan of Sense and have done my best to avoid it on my device using LP, Contapps, Handcent
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I was the same way with Slacker over the past year. especially because I was rooted and used A2SD, it would always log me out even if I hadn't recently flashed. Slacker just doesn't seem to like being on the SD card and hold the password at the same time. At the end of the day I'm not in any way against rooting and I'm glad it's there as an option for when I get bored. I always do get bored, either with stock or flashing roms...or just with any given device itself.
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I don't think a lot of people flash new roms everyday.
Usually if you are updating a Rom, like from Das bamf 162 to 163, you don't need to wipe. apps, texts, layout, and what not stay the same.
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This is correct. The issue is not UPDATING roms...you get to keep all your settings that way. The issue is having to wipe before flashing a new rom. Me personally, it takes me a whole hell of a lot longer than two minutes to get everything back the way I want it. Downloading all my apps is not the issue. It's getting all of the settings for over a hundred apps back the way I want. Just as an example. Every website I visit I log into with a password. I use Skyfire, stock, Dolphin HD. When I wipe I have to go back and re-log into every damn website I visit again...and I have to do it every time I want to try a new rom...which ends up being often because once you flash one, it leads to another and another, always searching for that perfect rom. I often did flash at least every other day. Most developers would update their rom, fixing or adding something and the temptation was too strong not to test drive it again. But liek I said it makes the device never feel complete because I never settled on anything long term.
I will say this tho, it was rooting and flashing that made me realize how much I enjoyed Sense UI. I tried EVERY rom there was for the N1 and never enjoyed anything the way I did Sense(although I did love ROD's MIUI MoD rom for N1+ LauncherPro Plus...it was quick as hell and had beautiful transitions, not as stable as CM7 tho) and thru root and flashing you can try different UI's and find the one that is right for you. So rooting and flashing is definitely a great thing and like I said I'm glad it's an option I have to admit I miss that little high you get while waiting for a new rom to flash. Wondering if you've soft bricked, and the anticipation of seeing all the goodies new roms contain. The feeling of having total control over your device is nice too.
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Appbrain reinstalls all your apps. Resetting icons/widgets takes 2 mins, tops
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Doesn't TiBackup reinstall your apps just as well? I don't use Appbrain so I don't know the benefit.
KarukTribe said:
I have 3 kids. Taking 3 hours out of my day to root my phone is not an option.
I did make time to mess with my htc incredible only because is was a one click trick.
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I have four kids and a large closet. Adapt and overcome.
major_works said:
I stayed unrooted for about three weeks. It took me that long to work up the nerve to root. After I'd read the procedure through a few times, asked a few questions, and, most importantly, satisfied myself that it was entirely reversible, I went for it.
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+1 to this, exactly what I though too.
I bricked my Droid X a couple of times, and was able to get it back every time, but it taught me to be careful.
I flash a new Rom daily and set up a whole new theme every time I always got a new phone that way lol
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major_works said:
I stayed unrooted for about three weeks. It took me that long to work up the nerve to root. After I'd read the procedure through a few times, asked a few questions, and, most importantly, satisfied myself that it was entirely reversible, I went for it.
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I did this too. I plugged my phone into the USB and it took me another hour of rereading the guide before I finally got the nerve to start
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I'm sure I'll root eventually, I'm just kinda in the same boat as MuckenMire, tired on the endless rom shuffle. The TBolt is my first Android, but I'm coming from a number of WinMo 6.x devices. As some of you probably know from experience you pretty much had to flash a custom rom to make many of those phones usable. The Tbolt is a much better user experience stock than any of my old WinMo devices were with custom roms. Right now the bloatware would be the only reason I would bother with root. This phone is fast, stable and highly customizable stock. Right now I just don't see a compelling reason to root it.
That being said, first time I need to teather and VZW wants to charge me, I will probably root. I don't do it often enough to justify paying extra for it.
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I love all these people who claim they are so busy, really come on, you obviously have time if you browse the XDA forums and Im sure you spend a lot of time on facebook.
Get over yourself.
Sorry for this Trollin, It just irritates me.
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I love all these people who claim they are so busy, really come on, you obviously have time if you browse the XDA forums and Im sure you spend a lot of time on facebook.
Get over yourself.
Sorry for this Trollin, It just irritates me.
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I'm over myself. I have time, but I just don't want to root. I'm happy with what I have. None of the roms look that great to me, so why bother? Why do some of you feel like everyone has to root. Like we're idiots cause we're running stock. Why do you really care what others are doing?
I want to start of by saying I mean no disrespect to all the devs/cooks here. I appreciate and love all of their hard work.
Now, after flashing countless amounts of roms/kernels and always having some type of problems like GPS, small mms, random force closes, etc. I went back to complelty stock and wow... My phone is smoother than I ever remembered. My data speeds seem a little faster and GPS locks on faster than ever. Battery life is a LITTLE worse than custom roms but I figure I spend less trying with the screen on trying to get stuff to work so it evens out.
Well I just thought I would share my experience. If you are like me ALWAYS trying to find the perfect Rom/kernel combo that just works, then try stock one more time. It just might surprise you
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Been reading alot about the whole process of rooting and flashing over the last few days, and I must say I join your conclusion somehow. Instead of seaching for minor improvement that sometimes set you back in other fields, why not just use the Stock options that the producer can stand by.
Even so I can totally understand the willingness to try and make a product better, and understanding it in the best possible way. That beeing said, I hope they still continue the great work with making custom roms to further push the limits of our device.
Hansge.
If you're happy with the factory ROM, then a custom one isn't necessarily better. One of the things I like about Android though is the freedom to use my phone the way I want to, and that includes custom ROMs if one better suits my requirements. It's all about choice.
most people simply want to remove the BLOAT that comes with stock roms so basically once you receive the opportunity to root you simply freeze the BLOAT with titanium backup and keep the stock rom. I personally like AOSP and most phones don't come with AOSP out of the box unless it's a Nexus so I always end up flashing a custom rom. But I can say that I was running CM7 on my Sensation and became sick of the browser freezes and I went back to stock for a few days and LOVED it eventhough I hate HTC Sense LOL it was just nice to have a phone in which EVERYTHING worked as
it was intended
I personally think a custom kernel has more influence on daily use then custom rom. The differnce between zram and no zram where huge for me on gingerbread.
Custom isn't for everyone
The stock ROMs are usually the best option for most users. Pretty much the same as any custom vs. stock situation. My co-worker is using a ROM that blocks all data usage except from the browser. He loves it. His battery lasts two days without effort and he doesn't miss a thing. Personally, I'd go nuts if that was the stock ROM, but it is good for him.
Have to agree that it's really about choice.
If the missing features are ones you never use then you haven't really lost anything.
I had my Sensation running on a custom ROM within hours of buying it and I've never looked back (though that may be to my disadvantage since I have no point of comparison).
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The stock ROMs are usually the best option for most users. Pretty much the same as any custom vs. stock situation. My co-worker is using a ROM that blocks all data usage except from the browser. He loves it. His battery lasts two days without effort and he doesn't miss a thing. Personally, I'd go nuts if that was the stock ROM, but it is good for him.
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You could create a situation like that by rooting and setting up DroidWall.
I too agree with RestInPieces209.
Really love what the cookers here on xda are doing though!
Tried several custom roms and there always were a couple functions that weren't working properly. Now, since one week back on stock and S-on, most stable and complete rom there is. Eagerly waiting for ICS
if it wasnt for these roms... i would get to damn bored of my phone really quickly... would spend a lot of money buying a new phone as soon as im bored with it..
I can bare the small errors i get, fc etc.. as soon as its up to date, new improvements both visually and functionality. i mean, i got beats on my sensation (non XE) it looks good to have, but also better sound. I got original 1.5Ghz dual core instead of downclocked (by HTC) 1.2GHz... i still got approx 30-40hrs of battery. and thats good!
i can only praise custom roms! thanks devs!
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HTC arent dumbasses themselfs - they know how to make a great phone. they make phones they think as many as possible would like - with all their criteria; stability, good battery, performance etc. By trying to fullfill everyones wishes, somethings are being sacrificed ( such as 1.5GHz for better battery).
Thats why custom roms exists, so you can adapt the phone to your needs...
I would agree with the OP so far in terms of my Sensation, but my previous phone (ZTE Blade) was MASSIVELY improved with custom ROMs.
Some people are obsessed with perpetually messing about with their toys, regardless of the benefits/hassles. Almost always men.
Also, I guess that as phones (fancy ones such as the Sensation) get fancier and faster, so the law of diminishing returns applies regarding tweaks.
It boils down to preference really. Installing roms from other phones or customized ones so you can enjoy the full experience of your phone is just a choice. Like I the stock rom on the Sensation but then they came out with the Sensation XE with beats audio and I love to listen quality music. So then that rom was perfect for me.. My .02 cents.
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I would agree with the OP so far in terms of my Sensation, but my previous phone (ZTE Blade) was MASSIVELY improved with custom ROMs.
Some people are obsessed with perpetually messing about with their toys, regardless of the benefits/hassles. Almost always men.
Also, I guess that as phones (fancy ones such as the Sensation) get fancier and faster, so the law of diminishing returns applies regarding tweaks.
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I agree. My old phones like the og droid, Eris, D2 global, etc were all improved with roms. But htc did a really good job on the sensation. After flashing the stock Rom and installing 2 ota updates that they have released it is smooth as butter. Even texting this message on my phone seems faster and more accurate than I ever remember.
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Not to mention the legendary HD2... From boring windows 6.5 to android to windows 7.5 mango... That's when I got hooked
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It honestly boils down to pure preference. Specifically for the Sensation, most people like custom ROMS because they hate HTC Sense. So they are willing to deal with FC's and less stable ROMS just so they can never see Sense again
Since I cannot stand the sense ui yes, custom romd are better. I have no issues with cyanogen mod. I suppose I could always use stock rooted and a custom launcher though.
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Custom ROMS are basically for people that want something different on their phone. Stock ROMS are reliable, stable, and provide default phone usage. On the other hand, stock ROMS (depending on what the developer has done to it) can change the way things looks, are, feel, and work. Some also have the capability to make your battery life last longer than the stock ROM. Custom ROMS are better or suck compared to stock ROMS in their own ways. It's just up to you, to decide which ROM fits your needs and expectations. Developers have this thing called a changelog that lists EVERYTHING that they have tweaked, changed, or improved since they created the ROM. It's best to look at and read it, to see if you like what they did to it/changed, or what it makes your phone capable to do. To me, it's all about what you REALLY want on your phone and all about researching the custom ROMS.
Hope I helped even a little. PEACE!
Ok guys, the title says it all. Do you plan on living with your One XL the way HTC intended it to be or do you plan on living on the wild side? Despite the non removable battery I plan on rooting as soon as we get some good roms. For me that's half the fun of android, as soon as I get bored with one rom I flash a new one! However I am a bit concerned about the non removable battery. I've ran into more than a few sticky situations while tinkering with my Atrix that the only solution was a battery pull i.e. infinite bootloops and not being able to access recovery. So what will it be for you?
I"m on a similar situation, but will Rom away.
definitely. and not having a removable battery isnt a problem, if you long hold the power button for 10 sec, the device will auto shutdown and simulate a battery pull.
i will root as soon as available so my root apps work and i can tether. i usually don't rom until roms are tried and true unless i'm testing. i'm not a fan of bugs and alphas.
filthyfnj24 said:
However I am a bit concerned about the non removable battery. I've ran into more than a few sticky situations while tinkering with my Atrix that the only solution was a battery pull i.e. infinite bootloops and not being able to access recovery.
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Hold the power button for 10+ seconds. According to the One X manual on HTC's website that will be the equivalent of a battery pull. And several users of the International version have confirmed that this works
def unlocking and rooting asap. always do.
Definitely will root, probably going to have to flash the radio to get AWS working for WCDMA.
Probably wont root. Im going to stay fully stock and see if everything is fine. If i need more enhancements/mods i will sign my phone away to htcdev
So I'm kind of a newb at rooting (I've only rooted the htc inspire) does anyone know how to root it already or are we going to have to wait till the device comes out on AT&T?
Will definitely root it but I'm gonna hold off on the roms for a while
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Rooting it to remove bloat. Might flash a rom if it's stock ICS themed.
I'll probably root/ROM mine after a few days of being stock.
I want to try out some vanilla ICS on it, but who knows maybe it will be perfect the way it is
Will be rooting as soon as possible I use to many apps that require root. May stick with sense for a while but will certainly do something about the green battery icon I really hate it.
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I'm not particularly interested in rooting any more these days, but I think I would prefer stock ICS again.
While Sense 4.0 is an improvement over past versions, it is still far too bloated and cluttered. Having only 9GB of available space on a 16GB device is unacceptable :\
I've never not rooted or flashed a different ROM on my device. Sometimes I will add my own hacks because devs are awesome enough to tell us their method for doing so. But my ROMs aren't good enough to publish and are just rips and customizations because I'm extremely picky.
Thankfully I've managed to Disable most of the Sense junk that I don't like and retain the good stuff. My stock ROM is running beautifully. HTC has done an amazing job of streamlining things and I'm really amazed.
I'll be able to hold out. I'd love root access for root call blocker and some other essential root-dependant changes but I'm pretty dang content right now. Such a wicked device. I've never loved a device out of the box as much as this phone.
Really hoping for AOKP for this device. I love the look of AOSP with the additional features included in AOKP...best of both worlds.
I'll definitely root ASAP, but will probably hold off on ROMs until a CM9 build pops up.
Non removable battery is a non issue. My Xoom has a non removable battery and I flash custom ROMs all the time. Power + Volume buttons.
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Really hoping for AOKP for this device. I love the look of AOSP with the additional features included in AOKP...best of both worlds.
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The AOKP project is an awesome compliment to the AOSP sources that are released. They do such a fantastic job. Only very minor improvements and not too much screwing around.
Cyanogenmod trumps it by just a tiny bit though. I absolutely love what they do. They're intense. I always make small donations any time I can. They're amazing.
Im guessing the people that are here are going to root and rom... otherwise they wouldnt be here.
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Im guessing the people that are here are going to root and rom... otherwise they wouldnt be here.
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Bingo!
I'm always surprised when I see people posting about how they've had x amount of phones and never rooted. NEVER ROOTED!?!?!? I can understand and appreciate not unlocking the bootloader or flashing ROMs, but I don't understand why they'd be here if they aren't tinkering one way or another.
I normally don't even bother setting up my phones because I've already got everything lined up to root, unlock and probably flash a different ROM onto my device.
Trying to decide if I want to go through with unlocking bootloader or just staying rooted for the time being. For those of you that have already done it, are the ROMs worth it at this point? Should I just hold out until AOSP is working a little better? I have also heard that phones have gone dead after unlocking and needing replaced. I got the device second hand and am not with AT&T so that really isn't an option for me. That is what's probably stopping me as of now. Also immediately after rooting my phone decided to shut off and took a minute to come back on, not sure if that is normal or what.
Guess I'm just looking for opinions and persuasion. Any feedback would be appreciated, thanks.
I'm running AOKP and its perfectly capable of running as a daily driver. Its much smoother than the Sense ROMs.
Yes thats normal after rooting your device.
And I've never heard about devices going dead after unlock...
Wasn't sure if the powering off was normal or what because the root window closed, the phone fully booted gave me the "android upgrading" popup then powered off.
Heard a couple people saying their phones just went dead a couple days after unlocking. Not sure if that was what it was related to but it didn't happen until after.
HTC devices aren't my forte by any means though, much more comfortable with Samsung phones and the way they do things.
I too am used to Sammy, HTC and there se purity is all new to me. But I have unlocked and am running cleanROM. Totally worth and phone hasn't died yet lol. I have never heard of phones dying from unlock either.
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One day you will sit down with your bootloader unlocked and new rom installed and ponder what took you so long. Might backhand yourself in the process.
Developer's are already making huge leaps when it comes to roms, mods etc. I haven't been able to flash anything in a week and yet I was loving cleanrom for it's speed, stability and extra features. Plenty of other developers too kicking ass. As rohan mentioned you already have AOKP and CM9.
BTW i was one who had phone die on me but it had nothing to do with unlocked bootloader.
Think you guys talked me into it! Really hate this stupid recent button, should have been menu. The bloat on stock is also ridiculous.
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Think you guys talked me into it! Really hate this stupid recent button, should have been menu. The bloat on stock is also ridiculous.
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That menu recent button is the reason I rooted mine.
rohan32 said:
I'm running AOKP and its perfectly capable of running as a daily driver. Its much smoother than the Sense ROMs.
Yes thats normal after rooting your device.
And I've never heard about devices going dead after unlock...
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+1 for AOKP (or the CM9 port). They still have a few quirks (like keeping your dial tones on or call audio dies, some issues with music playback) but will work day to day. I haven't regretted it flashing AOKP for one second though.
I might give AOKP a try tonight. Currently running clean ROM light. I'm actually liking Sense 4 so I'm not in a rush for AOSP.
I'm running clean rom 2.3 dev and its a great rom! I am wanting to try aokp or cm9 but I'm waiting a little to decide. Decisions, decisions.
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+1 for running cleanrom 2.3, I have been hearing a lot of great words on cm9 will give that a shot soon. OT, you should unlock now. Don't wait, the ROMs are absolutely worth it and nothing is better than making a phone your own, and not just some phone you can buy at the store.
I actually unlocked not long after posting this. Been running CleanROM Lite and it's fantastic. Waiting for AOKP to be a little more stable before flashing it.
Try installing Cleanrom 2.6
I have this installed and it's super fast and smooth.. very stable.. a lot better than stock Rom.. sogo ahead n root n unlock ur bootloader
I am currently running the CM9 Alpha 3 ROM and love it. Well worth the trouble of unlocking.
I cant tell you what a breathe of fresh air it is not having random reboots, or the temptation to FLASH FLASH FLASH new roms every other two weeks, or force closes, or any of the other issues that arise from running roms that are not stock...Sure, there are far less customizations and tweaks, but the battery life is phenomenal, phone is fairly fast, sense is nice, the only thing I would take away would be the at&t bloatware and the keyboard absolutely blows, swiftkey3 takes care of that though!
Cheers.
Sigh.
While I found myself telling my girlfriend this yesterday, how it was nice to not be worried about updating my rom every night and trying out multiple kernels and all that, but in reality I am just in denial and craving so bad for it I have to think negative to even survive P)
I have had the phone 3 days and LOVE it but without root IDK how long I can stand it. Thinking about trading for a S3 just for root and there are no other good alternatives.
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I cant tell you what a breathe of fresh air it is not having random reboots, or the temptation to FLASH FLASH FLASH new roms every other two weeks, or force closes, or any of the other issues that arise from running roms that are not stock...Sure, there are far less customizations and tweaks, but the battery life is phenomenal, phone is fairly fast, sense is nice, the only thing I would take away would be the at&t bloatware and the keyboard absolutely blows, swiftkey3 takes care of that though!
Cheers.
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I wouldn't have the slightest problem being on a stock 2.20 if only it wasn't for the whole app associations ordeal.
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Enjoying smooth stable experience with great battery life and no FCs here too.
Running ViperXL 1.2.4 FWIW.
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I wouldn't have the slightest problem being on a stock 2.20 if only it wasn't for the whole app associations ordeal.
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I agree with this. I thought the stock software was decent enough to live with, the major exception being the Linkify crap. The battery life was so so at first (on 1.73 and 1.85) but when I flashed CleanROM the battery life improved greatly. I'm not sure if it was due to the jump in the base code or if it's ROM tweaks but its much nicer now.
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I felt the same, I was never able to get the same flawless, smooth experience I had with the 2.20 stock HOX with any of the ROMS/Kernel combinations found in this forum. And since I really like stock but been able to tweak, I moved back to the GS3, I forgot how nice and smooth it is...
That's odd ... I have random reboots on 2.20. I am currently using it unlocked on T-mobile.
i was debloating 2.20 nicely almost custom rom worthy until i found out htclinkify cant be removed so its pretty much a pointless base for a custom rom. too bad cause for me being on at&t it was the most stable and quickest of all for me personally.
I just got my HTC One X, w/ 2.20. Kinda made me mad cause I bought it for root/rom and turns out I got a HTC thats too new.
When I first got the phone I was on 1.85. I didn't root though. I was enjoy the stock experience and I thought if I ever did want to root I always could. Until 2.20 happened. I feel like they took away the freedom I had so now the second a root method comes I'm rooting to CM10 and never looking back.
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I agree about stock being the most reliable user experience. Not that custom ROMs are inherently bad, it's just the small bugs always irritated me and took away the polish from the OS. However, I disagree with you on the lack of root being a good thing. Luckily I changed to SuperCID when I first got the phone so I can still root on 2.20. Without root you're stuck with all the AT&T bloatware and no reliable backups of apps/data. I can do without flashing custom ROMs until we get a stable, feature complete build of CM10, but I need the ability to debloat and backup with Titanium.
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I agree about stock being the most reliable user experience. Not that custom ROMs are inherently bad, it's just the small bugs always irritated me and took away the polish from the OS. However, I disagree with you on the lack of root being a good thing. Luckily I changed to SuperCID when I first got the phone so I can still root on 2.20. Without root you're stuck with all the AT&T bloatware and no reliable backups of apps/data. I can do without flashing custom ROMs until we get a stable, feature complete build of CM10, but I need the ability to debloat and backup with Titanium.
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You should try wcx illuminati Rom...they have we have two versions..one.is stock with all the bloat gone and a few lil tweaks @ speed ...and the.other is the.mod build and it has a few extra mods added...
The roms are rock stable and everything works and not one hick up ever ..plus the battery life is amazing
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You should try wcx illuminati Rom...they have we have two versions..one.is stock with all the bloat gone and a few lil tweaks @ speed ...and the.other is the.mod build and it has a few extra mods added...
The roms are rock stable and everything works and not one hick up ever ..plus the battery life is amazing
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I would love to if they didn't have the irritating minimum post count in order to download.
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ComposMentis said:
I would love to if they didn't have the irritating minimum post count in order to download.
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What's irritating about being apart of the community ...
That's what wrong with the world today ..everyone expects something.for free..the main dev ,wildchild, spends countless hours perfecting his work and makes sure that every user is completely 100% satisfied ..and all that he/we ask is to make a simple 10 post min to contribute to the forum and maybe help someone while your at it..or just share some of you experiences with others..
Some people's sense of entitlement here on xda is outrageously high..
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randong said:
What's irritating about being apart of the community ...
That's what wrong with the world today ..everyone expects something.for free..the main dev ,wildchild, spends countless hours perfecting his work and makes sure that every user is completely 100% satisfied ..and all that he/we ask is to make a simple 10 post min to contribute to the forum and maybe help someone while your at it..or just share some of you experiences with others..
Some people's sense of entitlement here on xda is outrageously high..
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What's irritating about it is that I don't want to be part of yet another "community" for my phone. I don't feel entitled to the ROM, but the fact is it's irritating to me that I would have to put up 10 meaningless posts to download software. I would rather contribute a few dollars to download the ROM than join the community. There are far bigger problems in the world today than my irritation with what I see as a pointless restriction to download the ROM.
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What's irritating about it is that I don't want to be part of yet another "community" for my phone. I don't feel entitled to the ROM, but the fact is it's irritating to me that I would have to put up 10 meaningless posts to download software. I would rather contribute a few dollars to download the ROM than join the community. There are far bigger problems in the world today than my irritation with what I see as a pointless restriction to download the ROM.
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Hey no biggie , I'm not here to twist your arm ..and your opinion is well noted, I actually prefer that community over xda..and my post count shows that since I have quadruple the amounts of post there than I do here ..
Well if ya ever change your mind and want something.different then by all means we'll be there
Have a good day
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I don't have any issues running the latest CleanROM. Better, smoother, ad-free, Custom Kernel that saves me tons of battery. Stock 2.20 is a waste.
DvineLord said:
i was debloating 2.20 nicely almost custom rom worthy until i found out htclinkify cant be removed so its pretty much a pointless base for a custom rom. too bad cause for me being on at&t it was the most stable and quickest of all for me personally.
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You can't remove it with root explorer?
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