Pressure is added on Google to give us a way into google wallet as target, walmart and others setup thier own NFC solutions
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/27/...d-and-citigroup-for-nfc-payment-demo/?m=false
This follows paypal, ebay and opera launching their NFC stuff
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This has been brought up time and time again. I realize retailers are getting on board and that will help but until att gets it together and gets the secure sim or whatever it is we will not having a working google wallet
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Fear of competition is exactly what is needed to push AT&T & google into action.
Our conveinace doesn't have a slot in at&t's spreadsheets. Google can't really do a thing on this subject W/O AT&T agreeing and cooperating.
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This totally defeats the notion that buying a Nexus will get you all the latest and greatest features first. I have a T-Mobile Nexus S and I wouldn't be surprised if it takes 5 months for it to get Google Wallet, despite the technology being exactly the same. Why does Google do this? I was so excited about using NFC too.
1. NFC is a drain on the battery, so I won't be using it anytime soon.
2. I'm not really sure why Sprint Nexus S gets it first. Why does Google do stuff like this? Both of the models are NFC enabled. There shouldn't be any reason to limit it like that. I guess it's their MO.
Sprint is a official partner. MasterCard and citi are other partners. That's why. If Google wallet gains traction you'll see it elsewhere.
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This totally defeats the notion that buying a Nexus will get you all the latest and greatest features first. I have a T-Mobile Nexus S and I wouldn't be surprised if it takes 5 months for it to get Google Wallet, despite the technology being exactly the same. Why does Google do this? I was so excited about using NFC too.
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The GSM version of the Samsung Nexus S may receive access to the just-announced Google Wallet service, but Google will work with T-Mobile to bring the service to market for that phone, according to Google VP of Payments Osama Bedier. Mr. Bedier ruled out circumventing carriers like T-Mobile in bringing Google Wallet - and compatible phones - to market. The GSM Nexus S has the same NFC chip required for Google Wallet as the Nexus S 4G that the service is being trialled with today. Google expressed optimism that more carriers would support Google Wallet soon, and that many more phones would include the necessary NFC chip going forward.
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Voice it to T-Mo if you want it to get done. It seems like Google does, they need to get T-Mobile on board though.
Why does a Telecom have tobe. Involved
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T-Mobile is a member of ISIS, along with AT&T and Verizon, which is a competing mobile payment platform to Google Wallet. I would not be surprised if Google Wallet works on ALL Nexus S phones, they may just not be able to announce it on T-Mobile, either because of T-Mobile's involvement with ISIS, or because Sprint is a partner in Google Wallet. Either way, sounds more like marketing to me than a technology limit.
couldnt someone just get the app and share it with the rest of us?
im sure the tmo-Isis partnership has something to do with it. but i also bet that all nexus phones will get it eventually, but since sprint/google wallet is official, theyre not gonna announce anything else.
Odd that Google checkout was not an option to use for paying. My debt and credit card are visa
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BrianDigital said:
Odd that Google checkout was not an option to use for paying. My debt and credit card are visa
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That's what the prepaid Google card is for. I suspect it will be reloadable with that Visa you have...
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That's what the prepaid Google card is for. I suspect it will be reloadable with that Visa you have...
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Maybeit would work like PayPal, how PayPal will pull the funds from my bank account I hope
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T-Mobile has to approve Google wallet
http://androidcommunity.com/origina...ogle-wallet-until-t-mobile-approves-20110526/
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Maybeit would work like PayPal, how PayPal will pull the funds from my bank account I hope
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The interface demo'd today showed all the interface for inputting all of your CC info (Number, expiry, Name, Billing Address).
Im not really sure what role the carrier plays in the actual transmission of the data. Also, the GSM version of Nexus S is not T-Mobile branded unlike the Sprint Nexus S.
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1. NFC is a drain on the battery, so I won't be using it anytime soon.
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No it's not. It made a 1% difference in my battery life after leaving my Nexus S running with full brightness, screen on and an app I wrote with a full wake lock for a few hours. 1% in 4 hours, that's not battery drain.
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No it's not. It made a 1% difference in my battery life after leaving my Nexus S running with full brightness, screen on and an app I wrote with a full wake lock for a few hours. 1% in 4 hours, that's not battery drain.
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ya i dont know what that kid is talkin about but it litteraly comes automatically enabled when u buy ur phone lol but yes its like 1% battery
Nfc is also off when screen is off
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I was losing at least 7-8% a day with it on. I already hate the battery life on Android devices in general, so I turned it off to get as much as I can.
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Im not really sure what role the carrier plays in the actual transmission of the data. Also, the GSM version of Nexus S is not T-Mobile branded unlike the Sprint Nexus S.
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The carrier doesn't play any role. In fact, Google Wallet payments work without any data connection at all.
Does anyone have or use Google Wallet yet? Anyone know where to get the app, and how to register for it?
I've been lurking around the NS forums for a while and I'm surprised that no one is talking about this.
This function has tipped me over into buying an NS. I should be getting it in the mail this week (i9020a) and I can't wait until I can use this feature.
Just as the title says....how would i get the google prepaid card to make a purchase on the android market?
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Login to the web and somewhere in your account settings you should be able to access shopper and then set whatever you can in it as far as payment methods. It's been a long time since I messed with it, but I think they sent an email saying they had or were going to incorporate shopper and wallet together.
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They explicitly said that the Google prepaid "card" would be limited to NFC purchases only, and not enabled for use via any other route.
With the latest version of Wallet they announced that Citi prepaid Mastercards could now be used online, but they did not say there has been any change with the Google "card".
If you find that you are able to use the Google $10 credit in any other way, that would be great, but I think the whole point was to limit it to NFC use from the outset.
I have recently got the HTC One X which has NFC, I was refusing to get a phone without NFC but I have worked out in the UK it is useless. There are many NFC enabled payment terminals all over the country, every Gregs has one also Mcdonalds and many other shops, however there are no apps to utilise this technology. In the US they have Google Wallet, in sweeden (I think) they have pay-pal but we have nothing in the UK.
Does anyone know of any NFC enabled payment apps that will work on the three network in the UK on an unrooted phone?
I am getting really annoyed with the slowness of technology in the UK, there is no 4G, the underground has not made an NFC oyster card app and banks are not incorporating NFC into their apps either unlike a lot of others around the world.
What are you thoughts on this lack of technology available to us compared to other countries?
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I have recently got the HTC One X which has NFC, I was refusing to get a phone without NFC but I have worked out in the UK it is useless. There are many NFC enabled payment terminals all over the country, every Gregs has one also Mcdonalds and many other shops, however there are no apps to utilise this technology. In the US they have Google Wallet, in sweeden (I think) they have pay-pal but we have nothing in the UK.
Does anyone know of any NFC enabled payment apps that will work on the three network in the UK on an unrooted phone?
I am getting really annoyed with the slowness of technology in the UK, there is no 4G, the underground has not made an NFC oyster card app and banks are not incorporating NFC into their apps either unlike a lot of others around the world.
What are you thoughts on this lack of technology available to us compared to other countries?
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It's incredibly annoying. But I've been using Google Wallet for the past few months at McDonalds and Greggs. I used the initial $10 and then got my friend to purchase a $100 prepaid mastercard fro me in the US.
Orange say they'll be releasing their Quick Tap application to Android users with NFC phones some time soon, but I'm not sure about exactly how it will work. If it's going to use the built-in Secure Element, they'll have to get permission and secret codes from Google/HTC first. If it's going to use the SIM card as the secure element, then it will probably only work with Orange SIMs, which sucks.
Furthermore, I'm not even sure if they'll support the One X - it isn't supported with Google Wallet afterall.
I use a Galaxy Nexus and I worry that Quick Tap won't be supported, as I'm pretty sure they'll be using the SIM as the secure element, but I'm not sure if the Nexus actually has that functionality. We should know within about a month.
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It's incredibly annoying. But I've been using Google Wallet for the past few months at McDonalds and Greggs. I used the initial $10 and then got my friend to purchase a $100 prepaid mastercard fro me in the US.
Orange say they'll be releasing their Quick Tap application to Android users with NFC phones some time soon, but I'm not sure about exactly how it will work. If it's going to use the built-in Secure Element, they'll have to get permission and secret codes from Google/HTC first. If it's going to use the SIM card as the secure element, then it will probably only work with Orange SIMs, which sucks.
Furthermore, I'm not even sure if they'll support the One X - it isn't supported with Google Wallet afterall.
I use a Galaxy Nexus and I worry that Quick Tap won't be supported, as I'm pretty sure they'll be using the SIM as the secure element, but I'm not sure if the Nexus actually has that functionality. We should know within about a month.
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I think google have been very slack with their wallet app and will not reach the desired market by keeping it to one or two phones. There are loads of NFC enabled phones out there running on android and they need to sort them selves out.
I think the ONE X will be capable of running the google wallet if I could get it in this country without rooting.
I am hoping HTC will be able to see a market for this and create an app in the HTC hub, or it would be handy if mastercard or visa would make an app for everyone to use. I saw a visa advert the other day that was suggesting it could be used on samsung phones but I have seen no further explanations.
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What are you thoughts on this lack of technology available to us compared to other countries?
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Don't get me started....
I'm hopeful that with the Olympics this year we will see a proper push for NFC payment to become widely available; there's the beginning of an infrastructure in place and numerous trials are underway or completing (O2, Barclaycard & Orange, etc).
Personally I'm hoping that Barclays move their Pingit app towards an NFC facility.
As far as what's available today in the UK, only the mini 'stick on' NFC credit card from Barclaycard - sucks really.
Yeah I would happily move banks to Barclays if I could use the ping it app with NFC, there was loads of articles around Christmas time saying google wallet was coming to the UK for the Olympics but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Yeah I would happily move banks to Barclays if I could use the ping it app with NFC, there was loads of articles around Christmas time saying google wallet was coming to the UK for the Olympics but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Me neither lol. Small comfort, but Pingit as is is now available to anyone with a uk bank account or building society account.
its been 12 months, is there still nothing available in the UK?
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its been 12 months, is there still nothing available in the UK?
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Annoying no! This country really annoys me when it comes to the uptake of technology, it is nearly a year since Visa did the samsung s3 trail with the PayWave app at the Olympics and still nothing from them.
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its been 12 months, is there still nothing available in the UK?
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Only Orange's Quick Tap which is very limited availability. I seem to see NFC capable terminals everywhere nowadays too.
Okay from what I understand Verizon was fined by the FCC for not allowing Google Wallet, then why do we still need a hack to make it work? and will we be able to use wallet legit in the near future? I am confused because I have read that Verizon has blocked the Nexus again recently, it seems they should be working in the opposite direction.
My understanding is that if they are to allow wallet, it will not be until after Isis is launched. I think the fining is irrelevant to the profit gains of directing people towards Isis.
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My understanding is that if they are to allow wallet, it will not be until after Isis is launched. I think the fining is irrelevant to the profit gains of directing people towards Isis.
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I'm pretty much going to avoid Isis as best possible in favor of Google Wallet, if what you have outlined turns out to be the case. I should be able to choose my app providers after obtaining the wireless service from Verizon, not be held in purgatory until they feel finally able to compete with Google's Wallet capabilities. Then again, Verizon was highly supportive of tiering Internet traffic speeds to favor their business partners, so I guess open access and fair competition isn't terribly high on their Executives' list of acceptable business models.
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It's frustrating. I don't understand the legal end of it, but we should have access now to wallet due to the ruling. And yes I agree F verizon! At this point it's a principle thing, I'll use wallet even if Isis turns out to be better.
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Just wondering if this is possible to use in Canada. I know Samsung has the Beep 'n Go app that seemed to work pretty well. However google wallet is still not available in Canada to use.
Google hates Canada. Its true...and I'm not flaming, I'm in Canada too.
Can't tell Google now to play my music, cause I don't live in the states. I mean wow. Lol
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What's with the Google hate for Canada? I also noticed we can't get the Google Play Now Unlimited or whatever
Is it more that the Banks and Credit card companies in Canada are not willing to support Google Wallet? Remember that Canadian adoption of advanced financial options like debit cards far exceeded the US for a long time. That would mean that Canadian financial institutions want you to use their already established methods such as the Interact terminals you see at a Tim Hortons. Can those devices support tap to pay from a phone? I already see people use credit card tap to pay at my local grocery store but only if you are using a specific credit card company.
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Is it more that the Banks and Credit card companies in Canada are not willing to support Google Wallet? Remember that Canadian adoption of advanced financial options like debit cards far exceeded the US for a long time. That would mean that Canadian financial institutions want you to use their already established methods such as the Interact terminals you see at a Tim Hortons. Can those devices support tap to pay from a phone? I already see people use credit card tap to pay at my local grocery store but only if you are using a specific credit card company.
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RBC / Bell allow the Galaxy S3 and S4 to use your phone to tap to pay, but requires a nfc sim card and doesn't actually work yet, but does promise the same support for future phones if they decide to bless them. Insert disgusted sarcastic smiley. (Sounds stupid to me, all you should need to use in that scenario is the nfc sim to tap and pay, the phone is irrelevant other than setup. How about using a NFC ring instead of a phone? Attach an NFC sticker to your finger, done, real tap and pay.)
There is no hate for Canada, Google is a US based company and caters to the US market.