I have recently got the HTC One X which has NFC, I was refusing to get a phone without NFC but I have worked out in the UK it is useless. There are many NFC enabled payment terminals all over the country, every Gregs has one also Mcdonalds and many other shops, however there are no apps to utilise this technology. In the US they have Google Wallet, in sweeden (I think) they have pay-pal but we have nothing in the UK.
Does anyone know of any NFC enabled payment apps that will work on the three network in the UK on an unrooted phone?
I am getting really annoyed with the slowness of technology in the UK, there is no 4G, the underground has not made an NFC oyster card app and banks are not incorporating NFC into their apps either unlike a lot of others around the world.
What are you thoughts on this lack of technology available to us compared to other countries?
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I have recently got the HTC One X which has NFC, I was refusing to get a phone without NFC but I have worked out in the UK it is useless. There are many NFC enabled payment terminals all over the country, every Gregs has one also Mcdonalds and many other shops, however there are no apps to utilise this technology. In the US they have Google Wallet, in sweeden (I think) they have pay-pal but we have nothing in the UK.
Does anyone know of any NFC enabled payment apps that will work on the three network in the UK on an unrooted phone?
I am getting really annoyed with the slowness of technology in the UK, there is no 4G, the underground has not made an NFC oyster card app and banks are not incorporating NFC into their apps either unlike a lot of others around the world.
What are you thoughts on this lack of technology available to us compared to other countries?
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It's incredibly annoying. But I've been using Google Wallet for the past few months at McDonalds and Greggs. I used the initial $10 and then got my friend to purchase a $100 prepaid mastercard fro me in the US.
Orange say they'll be releasing their Quick Tap application to Android users with NFC phones some time soon, but I'm not sure about exactly how it will work. If it's going to use the built-in Secure Element, they'll have to get permission and secret codes from Google/HTC first. If it's going to use the SIM card as the secure element, then it will probably only work with Orange SIMs, which sucks.
Furthermore, I'm not even sure if they'll support the One X - it isn't supported with Google Wallet afterall.
I use a Galaxy Nexus and I worry that Quick Tap won't be supported, as I'm pretty sure they'll be using the SIM as the secure element, but I'm not sure if the Nexus actually has that functionality. We should know within about a month.
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It's incredibly annoying. But I've been using Google Wallet for the past few months at McDonalds and Greggs. I used the initial $10 and then got my friend to purchase a $100 prepaid mastercard fro me in the US.
Orange say they'll be releasing their Quick Tap application to Android users with NFC phones some time soon, but I'm not sure about exactly how it will work. If it's going to use the built-in Secure Element, they'll have to get permission and secret codes from Google/HTC first. If it's going to use the SIM card as the secure element, then it will probably only work with Orange SIMs, which sucks.
Furthermore, I'm not even sure if they'll support the One X - it isn't supported with Google Wallet afterall.
I use a Galaxy Nexus and I worry that Quick Tap won't be supported, as I'm pretty sure they'll be using the SIM as the secure element, but I'm not sure if the Nexus actually has that functionality. We should know within about a month.
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I think google have been very slack with their wallet app and will not reach the desired market by keeping it to one or two phones. There are loads of NFC enabled phones out there running on android and they need to sort them selves out.
I think the ONE X will be capable of running the google wallet if I could get it in this country without rooting.
I am hoping HTC will be able to see a market for this and create an app in the HTC hub, or it would be handy if mastercard or visa would make an app for everyone to use. I saw a visa advert the other day that was suggesting it could be used on samsung phones but I have seen no further explanations.
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What are you thoughts on this lack of technology available to us compared to other countries?
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Don't get me started....
I'm hopeful that with the Olympics this year we will see a proper push for NFC payment to become widely available; there's the beginning of an infrastructure in place and numerous trials are underway or completing (O2, Barclaycard & Orange, etc).
Personally I'm hoping that Barclays move their Pingit app towards an NFC facility.
As far as what's available today in the UK, only the mini 'stick on' NFC credit card from Barclaycard - sucks really.
Yeah I would happily move banks to Barclays if I could use the ping it app with NFC, there was loads of articles around Christmas time saying google wallet was coming to the UK for the Olympics but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Yeah I would happily move banks to Barclays if I could use the ping it app with NFC, there was loads of articles around Christmas time saying google wallet was coming to the UK for the Olympics but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Me neither lol. Small comfort, but Pingit as is is now available to anyone with a uk bank account or building society account.
its been 12 months, is there still nothing available in the UK?
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its been 12 months, is there still nothing available in the UK?
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Annoying no! This country really annoys me when it comes to the uptake of technology, it is nearly a year since Visa did the samsung s3 trail with the PayWave app at the Olympics and still nothing from them.
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its been 12 months, is there still nothing available in the UK?
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Only Orange's Quick Tap which is very limited availability. I seem to see NFC capable terminals everywhere nowadays too.
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This totally defeats the notion that buying a Nexus will get you all the latest and greatest features first. I have a T-Mobile Nexus S and I wouldn't be surprised if it takes 5 months for it to get Google Wallet, despite the technology being exactly the same. Why does Google do this? I was so excited about using NFC too.
1. NFC is a drain on the battery, so I won't be using it anytime soon.
2. I'm not really sure why Sprint Nexus S gets it first. Why does Google do stuff like this? Both of the models are NFC enabled. There shouldn't be any reason to limit it like that. I guess it's their MO.
Sprint is a official partner. MasterCard and citi are other partners. That's why. If Google wallet gains traction you'll see it elsewhere.
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This totally defeats the notion that buying a Nexus will get you all the latest and greatest features first. I have a T-Mobile Nexus S and I wouldn't be surprised if it takes 5 months for it to get Google Wallet, despite the technology being exactly the same. Why does Google do this? I was so excited about using NFC too.
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The GSM version of the Samsung Nexus S may receive access to the just-announced Google Wallet service, but Google will work with T-Mobile to bring the service to market for that phone, according to Google VP of Payments Osama Bedier. Mr. Bedier ruled out circumventing carriers like T-Mobile in bringing Google Wallet - and compatible phones - to market. The GSM Nexus S has the same NFC chip required for Google Wallet as the Nexus S 4G that the service is being trialled with today. Google expressed optimism that more carriers would support Google Wallet soon, and that many more phones would include the necessary NFC chip going forward.
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Voice it to T-Mo if you want it to get done. It seems like Google does, they need to get T-Mobile on board though.
Why does a Telecom have tobe. Involved
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T-Mobile is a member of ISIS, along with AT&T and Verizon, which is a competing mobile payment platform to Google Wallet. I would not be surprised if Google Wallet works on ALL Nexus S phones, they may just not be able to announce it on T-Mobile, either because of T-Mobile's involvement with ISIS, or because Sprint is a partner in Google Wallet. Either way, sounds more like marketing to me than a technology limit.
couldnt someone just get the app and share it with the rest of us?
im sure the tmo-Isis partnership has something to do with it. but i also bet that all nexus phones will get it eventually, but since sprint/google wallet is official, theyre not gonna announce anything else.
Odd that Google checkout was not an option to use for paying. My debt and credit card are visa
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Odd that Google checkout was not an option to use for paying. My debt and credit card are visa
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That's what the prepaid Google card is for. I suspect it will be reloadable with that Visa you have...
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That's what the prepaid Google card is for. I suspect it will be reloadable with that Visa you have...
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Maybeit would work like PayPal, how PayPal will pull the funds from my bank account I hope
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T-Mobile has to approve Google wallet
http://androidcommunity.com/origina...ogle-wallet-until-t-mobile-approves-20110526/
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Maybeit would work like PayPal, how PayPal will pull the funds from my bank account I hope
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The interface demo'd today showed all the interface for inputting all of your CC info (Number, expiry, Name, Billing Address).
Im not really sure what role the carrier plays in the actual transmission of the data. Also, the GSM version of Nexus S is not T-Mobile branded unlike the Sprint Nexus S.
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1. NFC is a drain on the battery, so I won't be using it anytime soon.
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No it's not. It made a 1% difference in my battery life after leaving my Nexus S running with full brightness, screen on and an app I wrote with a full wake lock for a few hours. 1% in 4 hours, that's not battery drain.
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No it's not. It made a 1% difference in my battery life after leaving my Nexus S running with full brightness, screen on and an app I wrote with a full wake lock for a few hours. 1% in 4 hours, that's not battery drain.
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ya i dont know what that kid is talkin about but it litteraly comes automatically enabled when u buy ur phone lol but yes its like 1% battery
Nfc is also off when screen is off
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I was losing at least 7-8% a day with it on. I already hate the battery life on Android devices in general, so I turned it off to get as much as I can.
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Im not really sure what role the carrier plays in the actual transmission of the data. Also, the GSM version of Nexus S is not T-Mobile branded unlike the Sprint Nexus S.
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The carrier doesn't play any role. In fact, Google Wallet payments work without any data connection at all.
Does anyone have or use Google Wallet yet? Anyone know where to get the app, and how to register for it?
I've been lurking around the NS forums for a while and I'm surprised that no one is talking about this.
This function has tipped me over into buying an NS. I should be getting it in the mail this week (i9020a) and I can't wait until I can use this feature.
Article seems to make a good case:
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Google-Could-Get-a-Chance-to-Buy-TMobile-After-It-Closes-Motorola-Deal-220504/
Umm...yeah...too late on that one, AT&T is in the process right now of buying tmobile. They made an offer and tmobile accepted it. It's going through federal review now and the deal WILL be approved by the feds.
That would be awesome ! I hope it works out !
I already seen a att/t-mobile commercial the other night on the tv. I just wonder if their gonna jack up our bills I switched from the big V for a cheaper bill
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I already seen a att/t-mobile commercial the other night on the tv. I just wonder if their gonna jack up our bills I switched from the big V for a cheaper bill
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Same here I don't like at&t and it looks like tmobile is converting to at&t in a sneaky way like there gona start charging if you go over your "unlimited" throttled 2gs of data just like at&t is doing. (dont worry we will be in the grandfather plans but watch out wen you do uprgrades & so on..
My advice is get on a 2 year with t-mobile now so they cant jack the price up on you when they merge. We have a long while before this fully happens tho.
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I wish it was Google, but unfortunately it's big wig at&t!
Look at Google to purchase sprint as the attmob merger will devalue sprint. Which Google will scoop up for a value. The sprint google intergration is not without any coincidence just wait till next year you will see. Sprint sits on a lot of spectrum and with LTE and Wimax their footprint will be one of a kind in the US. Yes Google is a global company but sprint would be a stepping stone to bigger things. Sprint cannot survive on its own.
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It's too late I think. It sucks cause it would have been awesome.
I wish this was true, Google, Google Voice, T-Mobile sounds great... too bad its not going to happen. AT&T is already too far through with buying T-Mobile
Unless Google manages to buy AT&T ... which would be even better but never going to happen
i would hope google says they would pay more $! and att backs off.
i hate att
I'm not from the US, so apologies if I get some of this post confused
Am I right in saying that Google Voice (that we don't have in Britain, sadly) and Sprint are in a partnership? Would this mean that Google are *more* likely to team up or buy Sprint fully, than to buy T-Mobile US?
Fan speculation and fan hope here
The way I see it, Google could become what I call a 'digital carrier', making their own devices and carrying them on their own carrier. I see Google Voice as the first step of this. They'd be the first 'carrier' to go the world over and if they get it right, could completely dominate the information, mobile, and computing (with ChromeOS) space.
Think about it: how a carrier works hasn't changed since mobiles were introduced, really. They've always been the same. With Google Voice, Google have the possibility to change that and make themselves a carrier (possibly with Sprint's help) and carry their own devices, made by Motorola. This would enable them to update the devices (all running stock Android, or maybe different interfaces depending on high up the device is) all at the same time, wirelessly, and get fragmentation (which exists, however many times we say it doesn't) down to an absolute minimum. They could also manage the device's hardware easier, using one chip/SoC for one generation of phone, optimizing the OS for that chip. i.e. NVidia Tegra, a TI chip, or a Qualcomm chip.
Thoughts on this...?
According to FCC regulations. If you provide a service (att, tmo, sprint, etc.) you can NOT make devices (tablets, phones, etc.). Thats why the carriers have other larger companies make there devices. So is the Google and Motorola deals goes down and ATT and TMo doesnt, Google can not buy them.
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According to FCC regulations. If you provide a service (att, tmo, sprint, etc.) you can NOT make devices (tablets, phones, etc.). Thats why the carriers have other larger companies make there devices. So is the Google and Motorola deals goes down and ATT and TMo doesnt, Google can not buy them.
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This is correct.
colorcopies said:
According to FCC regulations. If you provide a service (att, tmo, sprint, etc.) you can NOT make devices (tablets, phones, etc.). Thats why the carriers have other larger companies make there devices. So is the Google and Motorola deals goes down and ATT and TMo doesnt, Google can not buy them.
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You have a link to that regulation? I presume that came into effect some time after Ma Bell used to make and sell telephones.
I trust you, I just like to verify.
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I trust you, I just like to verify.
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Reaganesque
Behold_this said:
Umm...yeah...too late on that one, AT&T is in the process right now of buying tmobile. They made an offer and tmobile accepted it. It's going through federal review now and the deal WILL be approved by the feds.
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You can't say for sure. AT&T has been on the hot seat with the FCC before. Look at when they made them split. They are slowly trying to build up the monopoly again. I honestly don't think the deal would go through. There is too much opposition, including state governments. Plus their legal team made a big no no and accidentally submitted some paperwork to the FCC that hurt their argument.
the merge with AT&T is under review by the FCC. we all know this. It must pass the FCC's examination to ensure things like antitrust, monopoly etc don't occur as a result of the merge... basically to say that all things merger specific are legal.
It's looking like it will be and the merge will go through, but there's always a chance that something (i'm still praying for it) will stop the merge. in that case, then google can offer to buy and in that case an FCC approval doesn't seem to be required since google is not a communications company like AT&T. I just got laid off in a merger just like that between two smaller Cell phone companies... I've renewed a 2 year contract to avoid AT&T screwing me if/when they merge...
I've purposely avoided AT&T for all these years only to find myself faced with being their customer after all. it blows. I prefer google.
A&TT is bad imo. They already capping the 150GB on DSL. Who knows what they will do next.
G-Mobile? LOL
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The Isis Mobile Wallet was announced yesterday in limited rollout to Austin and Salt Lake City for now. http://news.paywithisis.com/
What struck me as interesting is the reference to needing to got to an AT&T store and pick up a new "secure element SIM". Since I don't live in one of those cities, I'm wondering where I can find more details about this SIM and if it's something that can be used to finally bring Google Wallet support to our phones.
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The Isis Mobile Wallet was announced yesterday in limited rollout to Austin and Salt Lake City for now. http://news.paywithisis.com/
What struck me as interesting is the reference to needing to got to an AT&T store and pick up a new "secure element SIM". Since I don't live in one of those cities, I'm wondering where I can find more details about this SIM and if it's something that can be used to finally bring Google Wallet support to our phones.
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Ditto
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The Isis Mobile Wallet was announced yesterday in limited rollout to Austin and Salt Lake City for now. http://news.paywithisis.com/
What struck me as interesting is the reference to needing to got to an AT&T store and pick up a new "secure element SIM". Since I don't live in one of those cities, I'm wondering where I can find more details about this SIM and if it's something that can be used to finally bring Google Wallet support to our phones.
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Unfortunately it will not. The Google Wallet only works on embedded secure elements that are contained in the certain phones like the SGS3 and Galaxy Nexus. The new AT&T/Isis SIM can be used with Isis Mobile Wallet only (unless both of these conditions happen: 1) AT&T decides to let the Google Wallet into their secure element (SE) AND 2) Google is willing to pay the "rental" fees to get into the AT&T secure element. My bet is that Neither will happen.
So, for the Skyrocket, it will be Isis or nothing. However, given that the Skyrocket does have NFC and (being based on the Galaxy S2 line) *should* have SWP (Single Wire Protocol...it is a physical connection between the NFC system and the SE on the SIM), there is a good bet it will be enabled and you can get one when it is released to a wider audience.
AT&T has is app blocked doesn't appear in the play store.
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Just wondering if this is possible to use in Canada. I know Samsung has the Beep 'n Go app that seemed to work pretty well. However google wallet is still not available in Canada to use.
Google hates Canada. Its true...and I'm not flaming, I'm in Canada too.
Can't tell Google now to play my music, cause I don't live in the states. I mean wow. Lol
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Didn't even have play store cards here until very recently.
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What's with the Google hate for Canada? I also noticed we can't get the Google Play Now Unlimited or whatever
Is it more that the Banks and Credit card companies in Canada are not willing to support Google Wallet? Remember that Canadian adoption of advanced financial options like debit cards far exceeded the US for a long time. That would mean that Canadian financial institutions want you to use their already established methods such as the Interact terminals you see at a Tim Hortons. Can those devices support tap to pay from a phone? I already see people use credit card tap to pay at my local grocery store but only if you are using a specific credit card company.
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Is it more that the Banks and Credit card companies in Canada are not willing to support Google Wallet? Remember that Canadian adoption of advanced financial options like debit cards far exceeded the US for a long time. That would mean that Canadian financial institutions want you to use their already established methods such as the Interact terminals you see at a Tim Hortons. Can those devices support tap to pay from a phone? I already see people use credit card tap to pay at my local grocery store but only if you are using a specific credit card company.
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RBC / Bell allow the Galaxy S3 and S4 to use your phone to tap to pay, but requires a nfc sim card and doesn't actually work yet, but does promise the same support for future phones if they decide to bless them. Insert disgusted sarcastic smiley. (Sounds stupid to me, all you should need to use in that scenario is the nfc sim to tap and pay, the phone is irrelevant other than setup. How about using a NFC ring instead of a phone? Attach an NFC sticker to your finger, done, real tap and pay.)
There is no hate for Canada, Google is a US based company and caters to the US market.
I've always one to be different and out of the ordinary with what I do. Currently my daily phone is a P40 Pro with full GSM installed and happy with it.
My eye has now been taken by the Mi 10 ultra and after reading and watching many reviews I've decided I'll take a punt on it but only after I'll instal the EU rom on it. My main concern is the UK banking apps PLUS Gpay. I've read that Gpay can be a problem so my question is, will I be able to use the UK banking apps PLUS a reliable Gpay if I instal the latest eu rom on the phone?
Have a look here -
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-10-ultra/how-to/gpay-fix-eu-rom-t4168751
I've had no issues with the EU rom and Goole pay or banking apps. Santander thinks my device is rooted and won't work, and Lloyds group apps don't like fingerprint auth. What bank are you with?
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I've had no issues with the EU rom and Goole pay or banking apps. Santander thinks my device is rooted and won't work, and Lloyds group apps don't like fingerprint auth. What bank are you with?
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I am with Nationwide plus Santander, I can manage without the Santander one but would need Nationwide. It's good to know that you have Google pay working as I've read many posts stating that it does not work.
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I am with Nationwide plus Santander, I can manage without the Santander one but would need Nationwide. It's good to know that you have Google pay working as I've read many posts stating that it does not work.
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Nationwide works on mine, EU weekly rom.
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Nationwide works on mine, EU weekly rom.
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Brilliant, thanks for that.
In your opinion, are there any downsides to this phone at all? Where did you get it from and did you manage to get it with no import duty taxes etc?
I can get the 8gb/256gb for about £727 from http://www.tradingshenzhen.com and if I choose a certain postage they tell me there's no extra to pay at all.
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Just note the lack of band 20. It's only a problem if your using O2 or a network provider using O2s network. I use Sky via O2 and yes, there is no 4G but as everyone else is now using 4G, my 3G is super fast, so I have no issues but you do need to be aware of the lack of some bands.
I use Lloyds, no probs but as mentioned, no fingerprint at the mo while there is an issue with the CTS Profile, but still log in and use.
Got mine from Wondamobile, no import duties as they ship to Manchester and then to you, if there are any, they get them. Still here in 5 for me.
I bought from Wonda for £709 all in, as Sathelp mentioned they sort out import charges etc, they even gave me an Invoice with an IMEI on it for my insurance.
It actually only took 4 days from ordered to delivered.
My only problem is Gpay but I'm going to try the Magisk Rooted fix this week
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I bought from Wonda for £709 all in, as Sathelp mentioned they sort out import charges etc, they even gave me an Invoice with an IMEI on it for my insurance.
It actually only took 4 days from ordered to delivered.
My only problem is Gpay but I'm going to try the Magisk Rooted fix this week
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Which version was that? I'm looking at the 8gb/256 one. It's the same price on tradingshenzhen but with a 2 week delivery.
I don't regret the purchase at all, sent my Note 9 off into the ether for some cash back and never looked back. The 12GB version runs fast, when I got it on Wonda it was £789 all in (extra shipping insurance was £7 ish)
For tradingshengzen they will ask you to pay £20 shipping and £30 if you want to use PP, so add £50 on top of their price (seen some good pricing on there actually).
Downsides are: no microSD expandable. Not IP68 certified. If you use GPay a lot you might miss it, seems hit and miss who can use it. I used it fine early this week but I hardly use GPay, I just use the 1 card I carry with me.
Nationwide works as normal, fingerprint etc.
The Chinese ROM seems fine, apart from random Chinese apps popping up, battery seems better, probably because Google services aren't eating up your battery. I unsynced 3 of my accounts and turn off G voice assist on EU Rom and battery seems better. I don't think you'll go wrong with either ROM, plus this phone is so cheap compared to Note 20 Ultra. Was actually looking at S20+ (not ugly S20 Ultra) but am glad I got the Mi 10 Ultra instead.