Secure Element SIM - ISIS Mobile Payments, maybe Google Wallet? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

The Isis Mobile Wallet was announced yesterday in limited rollout to Austin and Salt Lake City for now. http://news.paywithisis.com/
What struck me as interesting is the reference to needing to got to an AT&T store and pick up a new "secure element SIM". Since I don't live in one of those cities, I'm wondering where I can find more details about this SIM and if it's something that can be used to finally bring Google Wallet support to our phones.

LoSt180 said:
The Isis Mobile Wallet was announced yesterday in limited rollout to Austin and Salt Lake City for now. http://news.paywithisis.com/
What struck me as interesting is the reference to needing to got to an AT&T store and pick up a new "secure element SIM". Since I don't live in one of those cities, I'm wondering where I can find more details about this SIM and if it's something that can be used to finally bring Google Wallet support to our phones.
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Ditto

LoSt180 said:
The Isis Mobile Wallet was announced yesterday in limited rollout to Austin and Salt Lake City for now. http://news.paywithisis.com/
What struck me as interesting is the reference to needing to got to an AT&T store and pick up a new "secure element SIM". Since I don't live in one of those cities, I'm wondering where I can find more details about this SIM and if it's something that can be used to finally bring Google Wallet support to our phones.
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Unfortunately it will not. The Google Wallet only works on embedded secure elements that are contained in the certain phones like the SGS3 and Galaxy Nexus. The new AT&T/Isis SIM can be used with Isis Mobile Wallet only (unless both of these conditions happen: 1) AT&T decides to let the Google Wallet into their secure element (SE) AND 2) Google is willing to pay the "rental" fees to get into the AT&T secure element. My bet is that Neither will happen.
So, for the Skyrocket, it will be Isis or nothing. However, given that the Skyrocket does have NFC and (being based on the Galaxy S2 line) *should* have SWP (Single Wire Protocol...it is a physical connection between the NFC system and the SE on the SIM), there is a good bet it will be enabled and you can get one when it is released to a wider audience.

AT&T has is app blocked doesn't appear in the play store.
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how do i add google wallet card to anroid market?

Just as the title says....how would i get the google prepaid card to make a purchase on the android market?
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Login to the web and somewhere in your account settings you should be able to access shopper and then set whatever you can in it as far as payment methods. It's been a long time since I messed with it, but I think they sent an email saying they had or were going to incorporate shopper and wallet together.
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They explicitly said that the Google prepaid "card" would be limited to NFC purchases only, and not enabled for use via any other route.
With the latest version of Wallet they announced that Citi prepaid Mastercards could now be used online, but they did not say there has been any change with the Google "card".
If you find that you are able to use the Google $10 credit in any other way, that would be great, but I think the whole point was to limit it to NFC use from the outset.

[Q] Mobile Payment app for the uk

I have recently got the HTC One X which has NFC, I was refusing to get a phone without NFC but I have worked out in the UK it is useless. There are many NFC enabled payment terminals all over the country, every Gregs has one also Mcdonalds and many other shops, however there are no apps to utilise this technology. In the US they have Google Wallet, in sweeden (I think) they have pay-pal but we have nothing in the UK.
Does anyone know of any NFC enabled payment apps that will work on the three network in the UK on an unrooted phone?
I am getting really annoyed with the slowness of technology in the UK, there is no 4G, the underground has not made an NFC oyster card app and banks are not incorporating NFC into their apps either unlike a lot of others around the world.
What are you thoughts on this lack of technology available to us compared to other countries?
mwarrington1992 said:
I have recently got the HTC One X which has NFC, I was refusing to get a phone without NFC but I have worked out in the UK it is useless. There are many NFC enabled payment terminals all over the country, every Gregs has one also Mcdonalds and many other shops, however there are no apps to utilise this technology. In the US they have Google Wallet, in sweeden (I think) they have pay-pal but we have nothing in the UK.
Does anyone know of any NFC enabled payment apps that will work on the three network in the UK on an unrooted phone?
I am getting really annoyed with the slowness of technology in the UK, there is no 4G, the underground has not made an NFC oyster card app and banks are not incorporating NFC into their apps either unlike a lot of others around the world.
What are you thoughts on this lack of technology available to us compared to other countries?
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It's incredibly annoying. But I've been using Google Wallet for the past few months at McDonalds and Greggs. I used the initial $10 and then got my friend to purchase a $100 prepaid mastercard fro me in the US.
Orange say they'll be releasing their Quick Tap application to Android users with NFC phones some time soon, but I'm not sure about exactly how it will work. If it's going to use the built-in Secure Element, they'll have to get permission and secret codes from Google/HTC first. If it's going to use the SIM card as the secure element, then it will probably only work with Orange SIMs, which sucks.
Furthermore, I'm not even sure if they'll support the One X - it isn't supported with Google Wallet afterall.
I use a Galaxy Nexus and I worry that Quick Tap won't be supported, as I'm pretty sure they'll be using the SIM as the secure element, but I'm not sure if the Nexus actually has that functionality. We should know within about a month.
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It's incredibly annoying. But I've been using Google Wallet for the past few months at McDonalds and Greggs. I used the initial $10 and then got my friend to purchase a $100 prepaid mastercard fro me in the US.
Orange say they'll be releasing their Quick Tap application to Android users with NFC phones some time soon, but I'm not sure about exactly how it will work. If it's going to use the built-in Secure Element, they'll have to get permission and secret codes from Google/HTC first. If it's going to use the SIM card as the secure element, then it will probably only work with Orange SIMs, which sucks.
Furthermore, I'm not even sure if they'll support the One X - it isn't supported with Google Wallet afterall.
I use a Galaxy Nexus and I worry that Quick Tap won't be supported, as I'm pretty sure they'll be using the SIM as the secure element, but I'm not sure if the Nexus actually has that functionality. We should know within about a month.
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I think google have been very slack with their wallet app and will not reach the desired market by keeping it to one or two phones. There are loads of NFC enabled phones out there running on android and they need to sort them selves out.
I think the ONE X will be capable of running the google wallet if I could get it in this country without rooting.
I am hoping HTC will be able to see a market for this and create an app in the HTC hub, or it would be handy if mastercard or visa would make an app for everyone to use. I saw a visa advert the other day that was suggesting it could be used on samsung phones but I have seen no further explanations.
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What are you thoughts on this lack of technology available to us compared to other countries?
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Don't get me started....
I'm hopeful that with the Olympics this year we will see a proper push for NFC payment to become widely available; there's the beginning of an infrastructure in place and numerous trials are underway or completing (O2, Barclaycard & Orange, etc).
Personally I'm hoping that Barclays move their Pingit app towards an NFC facility.
As far as what's available today in the UK, only the mini 'stick on' NFC credit card from Barclaycard - sucks really.
Yeah I would happily move banks to Barclays if I could use the ping it app with NFC, there was loads of articles around Christmas time saying google wallet was coming to the UK for the Olympics but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Yeah I would happily move banks to Barclays if I could use the ping it app with NFC, there was loads of articles around Christmas time saying google wallet was coming to the UK for the Olympics but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Me neither lol. Small comfort, but Pingit as is is now available to anyone with a uk bank account or building society account.
its been 12 months, is there still nothing available in the UK?
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its been 12 months, is there still nothing available in the UK?
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Annoying no! This country really annoys me when it comes to the uptake of technology, it is nearly a year since Visa did the samsung s3 trail with the PayWave app at the Olympics and still nothing from them.
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its been 12 months, is there still nothing available in the UK?
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Only Orange's Quick Tap which is very limited availability. I seem to see NFC capable terminals everywhere nowadays too.

ISIS mobile payments - news and updates

Recently some news about ISIS (ISIS official website) has come to light and with that, I’m sure we will be getting a lot more news about it. I decided to make this thread for all of those who want to know more about the current state of the ISIS payment system and to keep up with news.
The ISIS (mobile payment system) a joint venture between AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon Wireless to bring NFC payments to the masses. It seems to be their response to Google Wallet, a service only officially supported by SPRINT (and some Virgin Mobile phones) at this time (though unofficially, you can still hack it to work with other carriers on the Galaxy S3 ).
All three carriers announced plans to invest more than $100 million in the project.
Earlier this year, back in April, it was announced that ISIS would start a beta/pilot program in Salt Lake City and other areas just to later be delayed with no conclusive response as to why.
Earlier this week some news is starting to trickle out about ISIS - this post will be updated as news is released.
ISIS NEWS
By March 31st, 2013, ISIS will pay USA Technologies for every ePort-equipped vending machine that is able to accept Isis Mobile Wallet. This agreement is for some 7,500 vending machines.
Micros, a point-of-sale vendor having an estimated 35% (as of 2003) of the restaurant market has announced the integration of its Simphony point of service to support Isis's SmartTap mobile commerce application allowing consumers to make purchases, redeem offers and present loyalty cards through smartphone.
[ISIS IS LIVE AND WORKING]
ISIS is now LIVE and working….. at the Aramark cafeteria at Verizon's Basking Ridge, NJ headquarters….
ISIS will go Live next week in Austin and Salt Lake City (sorry guys, vzw hq got it first) =)
this post will be updated as information becomes public....
From Austin Regional Manager
Hey techies,
I am handling the implementation of Isis in the Austin market. Go like our facebook page because we are about to drop a $10.00 giveaway promo on ya heads VERY SOON (HINT) We will be posting instructions on the FB page.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mobile-Wallet-Revolution/453691268017209?ref=hl
Also, if you are/know an Austin or Salt Lake City Business owner who wants to get Isis ready, Please PM me here or on the FB page. VZW+ATT+TMo are paying for the equipment.
Thank ma if I helped ya
waiters said:
Recently some news about ISIS (ISIS official website) has come to light and with that, I’m sure we will be getting a lot more news about it. I decided to make this thread for all of those who want to know more about the current state of the ISIS payment system and to keep up with news.
The ISIS (mobile payment system) a joint venture between AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon Wireless to bring NFC payments to the masses. It seems to be their response to Google Wallet, a service only officially supported by SPRINT (and some Virgin Mobile phones) at this time (though unofficially, you can still hack it to work with other carriers on the Galaxy S3 ).
All three carriers announced plans to invest more than $100 million in the project.
Earlier this year, back in April, it was announced that ISIS would start a beta/pilot program in Salt Lake City and other areas just to later be delayed with no conclusive response as to why.
Earlier this week some news is starting to trickle out about ISIS - this post will be updated as news is released.
ISIS NEWS
By March 31st, 2013, ISIS will pay USA Technologies for every ePort-equipped vending machine that is able to accept Isis Mobile Wallet. This agreement is for some 7,500 vending machines.
Micros, a point-of-sale vendor having an estimated 35% (as of 2003) of the restaurant market has announced the integration of its Simphony point of service to support Isis's SmartTap mobile commerce application allowing consumers to make purchases, redeem offers and present loyalty cards through smartphone.
[ISIS IS LIVE AND WORKING]
ISIS is now LIVE and working….. at the Aramark cafeteria at Verizon's Basking Ridge, NJ headquarters….
this post will be updated as information becomes public....
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[Q] Google Wallet in Canada

Is there a way to get Google wallet in Canada?
I know Rogers is partnering with CIBC and Bell with RBC. But is there a app like Google wallet which does the same thing but in Canada??
There is no way to get google wallet in Canada at the moment (play store won't let it be downloaded out side if the US)
What would happen if next time you were in the States and you picked up a prepaid Visa gift card, could you then download the wallet app and activate the card for payment while still In the USA. And the bigger question would it still work once you get back to Canada
What about those who have dual citizenship? Can they get use of the Wallet app, say, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday?
Americans don't try to steal your universal healthcare, so don't steal their exclusive Wallet app j/k
Well i tried it on my GPE HTC one with android 4.4 at metro the other day. It did not work. I got a message telling me international transactions are not supported. The app however was easy to setup. I just added my US based google account and it let me download the wallet app off of the play store. I added my canadian CC with a us billing address.

[Q] Tap & Pay in Canada

Just wondering if this is possible to use in Canada. I know Samsung has the Beep 'n Go app that seemed to work pretty well. However google wallet is still not available in Canada to use.
Google hates Canada. Its true...and I'm not flaming, I'm in Canada too.
Can't tell Google now to play my music, cause I don't live in the states. I mean wow. Lol
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What's with the Google hate for Canada? I also noticed we can't get the Google Play Now Unlimited or whatever
Is it more that the Banks and Credit card companies in Canada are not willing to support Google Wallet? Remember that Canadian adoption of advanced financial options like debit cards far exceeded the US for a long time. That would mean that Canadian financial institutions want you to use their already established methods such as the Interact terminals you see at a Tim Hortons. Can those devices support tap to pay from a phone? I already see people use credit card tap to pay at my local grocery store but only if you are using a specific credit card company.
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3DSammy said:
Is it more that the Banks and Credit card companies in Canada are not willing to support Google Wallet? Remember that Canadian adoption of advanced financial options like debit cards far exceeded the US for a long time. That would mean that Canadian financial institutions want you to use their already established methods such as the Interact terminals you see at a Tim Hortons. Can those devices support tap to pay from a phone? I already see people use credit card tap to pay at my local grocery store but only if you are using a specific credit card company.
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RBC / Bell allow the Galaxy S3 and S4 to use your phone to tap to pay, but requires a nfc sim card and doesn't actually work yet, but does promise the same support for future phones if they decide to bless them. Insert disgusted sarcastic smiley. (Sounds stupid to me, all you should need to use in that scenario is the nfc sim to tap and pay, the phone is irrelevant other than setup. How about using a NFC ring instead of a phone? Attach an NFC sticker to your finger, done, real tap and pay.)
There is no hate for Canada, Google is a US based company and caters to the US market.

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