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Well... I was out with my friends, they were screwing around, one was looking at my phone then he saw the name of a girl i'm interested in, decided to call her, i tried to grab the phone back, he tossed it to his girlfriend who missed it, it hit the ground, and now, i have a 'bleeding' lcd under the glass.
Expensive phones and alcohol do not mix.
So looks like i'm going to have to go down to the mall and get myself a cheapy replacement phone for the next couple weeks.
Looking at a replacment I see "pocket pc techs" a $250 repair to fix the LCD.
Any chance anyone knows a cheaper repair place? in north america... didn't think so but it was worth asking
Ugh, well i guess all my questions will be on hold...
But bleh, just as i got it working 99% as i liked it after having it for 4 months.
Oops... wrong forum... meant for the regular HTC universal... hehe guess i've been spending so much time in this one.
don't they have insurance of some kind?
in holland we have something called "WA-verzekering"
if i break my friends phone by accident, i will pay for the damage and, it might be covered by this insurance... depending on the situation.
'playing catch' isnt covered i think..
but accidently push it of the table is...
Balur said:
Well... I was out with my friends, they were screwing around, one was looking at my phone then he saw the name of a girl i'm interested in, decided to call her, i tried to grab the phone back, he tossed it to his girlfriend who missed it, it hit the ground, and now, i have a 'bleeding' lcd under the glass.
Expensive phones and alcohol do not mix.
So looks like i'm going to have to go down to the mall and get myself a cheapy replacement phone for the next couple weeks.
Looking at a replacment I see "pocket pc techs" a $250 repair to fix the LCD.
Any chance anyone knows a cheaper repair place? in north america... didn't think so but it was worth asking
Ugh, well i guess all my questions will be on hold...
But bleh, just as i got it working 99% as i liked it after having it for 4 months.
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Didn't your 'friends' offer to pay for the repair?
They could go half each, one for the crap throw and one for not catching it.
Hey guys,
Nope insurance here wouldn't cover something like that, as for offereing to cover the cost... even if they offered i wouldn't let them. $450 would really mess them up for a month or two, but i can afford to take the hit.
I'm so sorry Balur!
It happened to me last summer...
Hey thanks for the sympathy...
Well I just got back from the Roger's store with a nice and simple Nokia 2610. No camera, no music, absolutly tiny.
Swapped the sim, and its working, so I guess it will do.
$300 to PocketPC Techs
$130 for replacement phone without a contract.
$20 for shipping to the repair place...
UGH...
Oh well, i kinda like this little phone, it will be nice when i go to the bar or a club or something, swap the sim rather then taking my Pocketpc and carrying something large, and that i'm afraid of having stolen.
Oh well... lol.
I guess i'll be posting again in a few weeks
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Hey guys,
Nope insurance here wouldn't cover something like that, as for offereing to cover the cost... even if they offered i wouldn't let them. $450 would really mess them up for a month or two, but i can afford to take the hit.
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When I was young I was told not to touch things I couldn't afford to replace if I broke them...
grayme said:
When I was young I was told not to touch things I couldn't afford to replace if I broke them...
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Well... welcome to North America... land of entitlement, and bad manners... lol
I bought two so if I broke one at some point I would have spare parts
Woot, fedex man just came, I'm back i the game
Faster then i had thought, kinda funny though since I just bought a cheap small phone so I wouldn't be stranded.
Oh well now I can swap my SIM when I don't want to be carrying my brick (to the bar and such places)
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Woot, fedex man just came, I'm back i the game
Faster then i had thought, kinda funny though since I just bought a cheap small phone so I wouldn't be stranded.
Oh well now I can swap my SIM when I don't want to be carrying my brick (to the bar and such places)
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yep, im doing the same.
im using my previous Sony Ericsson P910i as a "party phone". hehe
I went with a Samsung D807x my phone company was ice enough to subsadize it if i signed a 2 year contract (I was month to month), and it worked out anyways becuase the rate plan I wanted required a contract.
LOL.
Its small, its sexy, the quality is pretty good... but... i keep putting my finger on where the antena is... and it causes a hit to quality.
I've been through 3 phones since I sent my universal in though. A cheap pay as you go phone, which i swaped my SIM into, then returned with a week to go becuase it sucked. Also I borrowed a friends piece of crap, then I got that one on Monday, lol.
BLEH!!! 2 dead pixels... gotta send it back... lol
My screen cracked but I haven't fixed it yet. There are repair kits on ebay for ~180 if you're willing to do it yourself... which I am. However, my bank account isn't willing to cough up just yet. haha.
Sorry to hear of your troubles, but I'm glad it got fixed!
I saw the kits, but figured $180 for me to screw up or $250 for a professional to do it...
I decided on the professional
One of the pixels revived (guess it was just stuck), there's one left, always green.
They've agreed to swap screens, but I think I'm going to wait untill Monday and see if this one revives after a few days of usage.
You should be able to contact HTC for the price of fixing it. A friend of mine works in a HTC location in the UK and that office focus mainly on repair.
You can give them a call by finding the numbers on http://www.europe.htc.com/
dead pixels
There is a software to get the dead pixels out. If I find it I'll send you the link but it flashes the screen with different collors to get the dead pixels out. It worked with my MDA screen and never had pixels again.
Program to remove dead pixels
Ok the name of the file is M4V56052.MP4
I have the file so if you PM me your email I'll send it to you. I have to run it like 5-6 times to get the stuck dead pixels out.
I broke my LCD screen last year.
I looked up the parts and ordered an LCD screen strait from China, works perfect. I paid about 70 Euro.
So, if you ever take your kids to the pool, make sure you check your pockets. I discovered that after 45 minutes my phone was in my back pocket of my swim trunks. I let it dry in the sun until I got home, then did the rice thing.
As of now, when I put the battery in, the light on the back flashes on, the phone vibrates, but thats about it.
I called the insurance and have a new one on the way, but its $130 I really didnt have to spend.
I did the same except it was a party so I had to play it cool but the girl who's house I was at flipped out and felt terrible as I pulled it dripping out of my pocket and we went inside and put it in rice. A week later I took it out and it booted up but the digitizer was sadly dead
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Nicgraner said:
I did the same except it was a party so I had to play it cool but the girl who's house I was at flipped out and felt terrible as I pulled it dripping out of my pocket and we went inside and put it in rice. A week later I took it out and it booted up but the digitizer was sadly dead
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Yep. What was weird was that after the 45 minutes, there wasnt as much water pouring out as I thought, There wasnt even any under the screen like I would expect, but I would rather pay the money for a full functioning phone than one that onlu partially works. I just am glad its covered. I remember a time when no water damage was covered at all.
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Yep. What was weird was that after the 45 minutes, there wasnt as much water pouring out as I thought, There wasnt even any under the screen like I would expect, but I would rather pay the money for a full functioning phone than one that onlu partially works. I just am glad its covered. I remember a time when no water damage was covered at all.
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dont you just hate when that happens? its happened to me a couple of times, but thankfully my phones at the time were crap so it didnt matter that much to me. but yeah Im glad phones with water damage are covered now, or youd be out around $400 for a brand new phone
Yikes.....
This reminds me of when I was pushed into a pool with my cell phone in my pocket. It was a BB8900 that was ruined. The culprit immediately gave me the cash to buy a new one, thankfully.
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Yikes.....
This reminds me of when I was pushed into a pool with my cell phone in my pocket. It was a BB8900 that was ruined. The culprit immediately gave me the cash to buy a new one, thankfully.
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What about what you had in your phone, all your data? I think I would go crazy if someone does that to me now. Even though I got everything backed up!
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What about what you had in your phone, all your data? I think I would go crazy if someone does that to me now. Even though I got everything backed up!
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Thats what im thinking! Phones are always replaceable, data is not.
Why not wait a week and get the htc sensation. It will cost a bit more but id say its worth it.
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Why not wait a week and get the htc sensation. It will cost a bit more but id say its worth it.
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Cuz I am not elidgable for an upgrade until next year and dont have $550 to fork out for the Sensation. I would love to get it, but thats way too much out of pocket for a phone.
Here's a quick tip for people that fall into this trap, never call in and say it got ruined in water or your screen is broken, you always take out the sim and keep it off wait a day and call your provider and tell them your not sure if it's stolen or lost.
They will charge you the $40 dollars and send you the new one, if your phone is not missing or stolen they will not take care of you. This can only happen in one calender year so no insurance jobs. You have to be on an insurance plan prior to this event other wise you pay the whole amount.
Orical said:
Here's a quick tip for people that fall into this trap, never call in and say it got ruined in water or your screen is broken, you always take out the sim and keep it off wait a day and call your provider and tell them your not sure if it's stolen or lost.
They will charge you the $40 dollars and send you the new one, if your phone is not missing or stolen they will not take care of you. This can only happen in one calender year so no insurance jobs. You have to be on an insurance plan prior to this event other wise you pay the whole amount.
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Don't know if insurance fraud is something that should be suggested on here. Don't get me wrong, i could care less about how much money insurance companies make off of a claim. But not a good suggestion nonetheless.
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eqjunkie829 said:
Don't know if insurance fraud is something that should be suggested on here. Don't get me wrong, i could care less about how much money insurance companies make off of a claim. But not a good suggestion nonetheless.
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I dont know what carrier you have, but I am with Tmobile and smartphones carry a $130 claim fee.
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I dont know what carrier you have, but I am with Tmobile and smartphones carry a $130 claim fee.
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I don't carry insurance on my phones because it's a ripoff. Why am I going to pay asurion 5-6 bucks a month for them to send me some crap refurbished phone IF i break or lose my phone. I would rather save my money and buy a used one from someone online for the price of the deductible they are going to charge me IF I file a claim. Btw i have been using cell phones since the brickphones came out and have never broken or lost one yet.
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We have a pool at our house, for the most part phones stay well away from the water...but accidents have happened. When we went to seaworld last summer, there were people who were vacuum sealing phones in clear plastic which is a great idea...headed to Walmart and bought the sealer and a pack of small bags...works great for days that we know we will be out there all day. I can even punch a hole through the sealed part at the top and put my phone on a lanyard to wear around my neck
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eqjunkie829 said:
I don't carry insurance on my phones because it's a ripoff. Why am I going to pay asurion 5-6 bucks a month for them to send me some crap refurbished phone IF i break or lose my phone. I would rather save my money and buy a used one from someone online for the price of the deductible they are going to charge me IF I file a claim. Btw i have been using cell phones since the brickphones came out and have never broken or lost one yet.
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Strange to hear that. Its cool if thats what you do, but the referbs that come from them are certified referbs and have a 6 month warranty. They even cover stolen or lost cell phones. My personal choice has always been to get the insurance. $130 for a like new to me is better than $200 plus for a like new used from someone. jmo
You also mentioned "IF". Thats what insrance is all about the "IF" siutation. I do know that the insuance companies make millions on us because the "IF" usually never happens, but that's life I guess.
Actually it's a known fact, they list it in their disclaimer when you pay for insurance they have to tell you what the terms of service are. It clearly states if damage to any device is a result of the user then you are solely at fault and no claim will be entertained by said warranty, if the device is either stolen or lost under said claim then the deductible will apply and a replacement will be issued over the contract term not to exceed more than 2 times over a calender year.
They basically tell you to not bother if the screen is cracked or the buttons pop off but if it's lost or stolen then give us a call.
I actually dropped my last phone in the water while working on a side job and when I called the customer service person said "Ohh so you lost the phone, we'll send you out a new one then" AFTER I told him what happened.
Their well aware of what happens and mistakes get made but why pay for a service if it's not working for you. I didn't scam anyone nor did I offer any information that wasn't offered to me direct from T-Mobile, I paid my $40.00 dollars and had my phone back in 3 days (My Touch 4G). It's better than paying for the phone out right or second hand.
For those whom think I'm some thief or a scam junky just don't read the suggestion, keep paying top dollar for services you never use and we'll be cool I really don't care either way but for those whom live in the real world and know every penny counts take my advice and keep your investment, what's funny about "those with negative responses to my suggestion" is here you are on a site that's main goal is to develop solutions for software issues not provided by your carrier and freedom of use and the right to use what you pay for on all devices posted here ( Will Void Your Warranty threw your Provider for Using!) has something to say about it.
I love the site and would never have anything bad to say about it, I believe all of the dev's and site staff have a good thing going here and hopefully everyone can learn from all of it as you should, people need to take a bigger step and learn how to do for them selves and others instead of just being sheep and this site supports that.
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So, if you ever take your kids to the pool, make sure you check your pockets. I discovered that after 45 minutes my phone was in my back pocket of my swim trunks. I let it dry in the sun until I got home, then did the rice thing.
As of now, when I put the battery in, the light on the back flashes on, the phone vibrates, but thats about it.
I called the insurance and have a new one on the way, but its $130 I really didnt have to spend.
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Do the rice thing with the phone as disassembled as you can, about an inch of rice, the bag full of air and sealed, shake it good (to make the air inside really really dry) and leave it for 48 hours.
That revived my Samsung Blast from completely dead, couldn't even get the charge light to come on.
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Do the rice thing with the phone as disassembled as you can, about an inch of rice, the bag full of air and sealed, shake it good (to make the air inside really really dry) and leave it for 48 hours.
That revived my Samsung Blast from completely dead, couldn't even get the charge light to come on.
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Thanks for the recommendation but there was no hope for it. It was swimming for 45 minutes at least. Plus I called for replacement right when I found out. I want a fully functioning phone, not one brought back from dearh.....LOL
I hear you there, you know some where down the line it will just give you problems anyways and my phone is everything as far as work goes and knowing where I need to be every day matters when your a tech.
I don't mind taking a risk when the over all out come means I benefit more down the line and being able to fix my own equipment means I make more money later so making sure everything I have works properly is key not only for myself but also my customers.
Ok so heres my situation... I bought the inspire from best buy about 20 days ago on an upgrade, I decided to not get their black tie plan because I did not cause any physical damage to my old captivate so I thought I would be alright to pass on it this time. Until today that is... I had the phone in my back pocket and when I sat down I must have applied some extra pressure to the front and in result the screen in mostly shattered.
So I have decided to come to you guys in search for a few solutions. I noticed that you can add the black tie on up to 30 days from the purchase of your phone but I am doubting whether or not I could convince them to put it on my phone even though the phone is already broken but I was wondering if anyone here has ever had any luck getting this plan on after the damage had been done?
I would hate to think the best buy would really be so ignorant as to make me keep a phone with a shattered screen for the remaining 2 years that is on my contract (granted it is my fault it broke), I would like to think they would help someone in my position out to keep me happy and wanting to return back to their stores.
If there is no chance for this, then what would you guys recommend I do to get this fixed for as little cost as possible.
THANKS!
I just took a captivate that wouldn't turn on and they replaced it with an inspire. So I think they're pretty good about exchanging phones. Unless I just got lucky haha
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The way these employees can be,especially at bestbuy,seems unlikely. But give it a shot hello y not
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Ok so heres my situation... I bought the inspire from best buy about 20 days ago on an upgrade, I decided to not get their black tie plan because I did not cause any physical damage to my old captivate so I thought I would be alright to pass on it this time. Until today that is... I had the phone in my back pocket and when I sat down I must have applied some extra pressure to the front and in result the screen in mostly shattered.
So I have decided to come to you guys in search for a few solutions. I noticed that you can add the black tie on up to 30 days from the purchase of your phone but I am doubting whether or not I could convince them to put it on my phone even though the phone is already broken but I was wondering if anyone here has ever had any luck getting this plan on after the damage had been done?
I would hate to think the best buy would really be so ignorant as to make me keep a phone with a shattered screen for the remaining 2 years that is on my contract (granted it is my fault it broke), I would like to think they would help someone in my position out to keep me happy and wanting to return back to their stores.
If there is no chance for this, then what would you guys recommend I do to get this fixed for as little cost as possible.
THANKS!
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With a phone that unquestionably has suffered physical damage, I don't think it's reasonable to expect them to go that far in wanting to keep their customers happy.
Unless this "black tie" thing pretty much effectively says "sure, throw your phone off a cliff, drive over it with a semi, we want you happy, so we'll keep giving you phones," then I wouldn't get your hopes up.
But like Matt said, you got nothin' to lose and everything to gain at this point...
You never know what they will do. In December I upgraded to an Aria for $0.01, I did get the black tie coverage. There was a slight issue with the earspeaker and I took it somewhere local so I wouldn't be without my phone for a matter of weeks. Needles to say, that was a mistake. The repair place screwed it up. I took it to best buy and long story short, after sending it off for repair 4 times they have me an Inspire.
I think it is a very good thing to get to know the ppl that work in mobile and not be one of those customers they hate to see come into the store. They all knew me by my first name.lol They have me my choice of phones and I chose the Inspire and have never looked back!
BB its usually quite eager to please the customer, they know if you are happy with their mobile dept. you may buy your next tv there also.
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Perseids said:
You never know what they will do. In December I upgraded to an Aria for $0.01, I did get the black tie coverage. There was a slight issue with the earspeaker and I took it somewhere local so I wouldn't be without my phone for a matter of weeks. Needles to say, that was a mistake. The repair place screwed it up. I took it to best buy and long story short, after sending it off for repair 4 times they have me an Inspire.
I think it is a very good thing to get to know the ppl that work in mobile and not be one of those customers they hate to see come into the store. They all knew me by my first name.lol They have me my choice of phones and I chose the Inspire and have never looked back!
BB its usually quite eager to please the customer, they know if you are happy with their mobile dept. you may buy your next tv there also.
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Well, there's a teeny tiny bit of difference between a bad ear speaker and a "mostly shattered" screen, but, who knows...
brick it ..... That is the only solution O.O. I remember while back best buy told me if I bought their protection plan, I could walk out side drive my car over my phone bring it back in and get a new one/ fixed, never tested it though.
Obviously don't buy the Black Tie plan and then immediately whip the phone out of your pocket.... If it was me, I'd take the receipt in and say that I decided to go with the black tie plan after all. Then I'd take it in the next day, or the day after that. It might still look suspicious, but not as.
I took the black tie protection for my laptop and TV. Laptop got its hdd replaced twice, without a question. He opened it, took the old one out, put in the new one, and gave the old one back to me.
In my opinion, its worth the trouble/hassle for 3 years.
Thanks for your help and suggestions guys, I will hopefully go up there tomorrow and basiclly beg thats what I get for not adding it on when I got the phone, just my luck. Btw, I wasnt trying to say that they owed it to anyone to replace it, I was just saying would be a kind gesture to someone,who messed up. All they would have to do is change the screen then sell it refurbished for about 50dollars less than a new one.
Also, why do they allow you to add the black tie within the first 30 days but your excluded if you have already broken it then your not allowed to have it anymore. Just my thoughts on it, please pardon my ramblings..
Thanks again for taking the time to respond though!
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brick it ..... That is the only solution O.O. I remember while back best buy told me if I bought their protection plan, I could walk out side drive my car over my phone bring it back in and get a new one/ fixed, never tested it though.
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Well that's actually encouraging for the op, then. Unless of course they were exaggerating for purposes of selling the program.
I guess the only thing that would concern me is the amount of time the op takes between signing up for the program, and "cashing" in on it, so to speak.
I also don't know if they would require physical inspection of the phone when signing up, if done after the initial sale, when of course the brand new phone is there in front of them...
Just a quick update, I took it in today and they were very kind and helping and because I had the protection plan on my old phone they said they could add it back and and say that the person who sold me the new phone had forgotten to transfer the plan to the new phone.
They told me to wait 2-3 before I bring it back in for repairs because they are usually not allowed to do this to an already broken phone but the manager gave the approval.
Just thought that I would poke back so anyone in this situation in the future will have a bit of hope. And that this is another reason why I continue to get my phones at best buy... great customer service (most of the time) and a protection plan that is too good to pass up.
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Just a quick update, I took it in today and they were very kind and helping and because I had the protection plan on my old phone they said they could add it back and and say that the person who sold me the new phone had forgotten to transfer the plan to the new phone.
They told me to wait 2-3 before I bring it back in for repairs because they are usually not allowed to do this to an already broken phone but the manager gave the approval.
Just thought that I would poke back so anyone in this situation in the future will have a bit of hope. And that this is another reason why I continue to get my phones at best buy... great customer service (most of the time) and a protection plan that is too good to pass up.
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Congrats. Great news for you.
Try not to shatter the screen on the next one, will ya?
And thanks for posting back. It's always good to hear how these things play out.
Put it this way its like buying a car with out "protection" and just that one day after the 30 days you run into a wall.. Take the car back and say hey I would like to get the protection plan. 99.99% they will ask let me see the car. Just as in example. Its a business. But I have the Black tie and the buy back on my phone because just in case I do drop it its cover, I had it on my last phone they sent it out for a repair go it back in like a week brand new could not even tell. Rather then going through att paying 5$s on it if it get stolen and having to pay a delectable. Heck I even got water on my phone and it was covered. So its worth it to me. On the phones think about its your MOBILE phone you have it on you all the time rather it be in your pocket in case or in case on a belt clip you always have that chance of missing your pocket and your phone slips. and BOOM broken screen. And then your like AHH!! FML! lol
I would like to post one last time just to say Fallout 3/New Vegas FTW (i know off topic but had to give a shout out to a fellow vault dweller!)
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I would like to post one last time just to say Fallout 3/New Vegas FTW (i know off topic but had to give a shout out to a fellow vault dweller!)
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Hell yeah man Im thanking you for just that my friend.. FTW man! PC/Console
sorry of topic I think Ill start a game thread about something like this if its not already start.. thanks your way
I work at Best Buy. The plan is accidental coverage. I walked into a freaking lazy river at Six Flags with my old iPhone and it was replaced rapidly.
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I work at Best Buy. The plan is accidental coverage. I walked into a freaking lazy river at Six Flags with my old iPhone and it was replaced rapidly.
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I dont know about rapidly, but they have always been good about replacing my damaged phones. I went through 2 captivates (both took a swim) and they replaced them both, but the process took over 2 weeks. And on my last captivate they let me switch to the Inspire since the Captivate was out of stock.
Here is my update, I took it in a few days after I got the plan added and the guy who helped was very nice. They said that they were doing to do a rapid exchange (still not quite sure what that means but I think it is something along the lines of receiving a refurbished phone) and that they would get my "new" phone in within the next few days which is better than the 27 days I waited to receive my Captivate from being fixed a while back.
What sucks is that I am using my miserably slow iphone 3g until I get the new phone in.
One last question, if I am on the best buy reward zone silver level, does the extended 45 day return policy apply to cell phones? And if so, would I be able to exchange the refurbished inspire for the infuse and pay the difference even though they would have technically given me a refurbished phone?
Thanks!
So my mom managed to bend the prongs in the charging port so she cant charge her MT4GS.... She went into t-mobile and they said that they wont replace it because it was her fault. Is there something else we could say like it always drops signal or something so they will replace it for? She spent a lot on this phone back in August and she would hate for it to be useless already.... -_-
Tell them that the touch screen isn't responding and freezes a lot that's it.
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And do it over the phone instead of going in.
Thats not right Xo My dad works in construction. He got a Otterbox Defender Series for his GSII. He wanted to test is out, ran it over with a semi. Screen broke got a huge crack #phone worked perfectly# they replaced it. Just say that your earphone jack wont work. The camera freezes. Youve restored it. Then it worked for a while, but it started acting up. Blame it on the software.
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Since this device charges over the micro-usb connection, you're telling me she managed to break the internal connector?
That takes talent. You have to really try to break that. Really force the UBS plug in backwards.
I hate to tell you but unless she has insurance on it, she's screwed. Even if they process a warranty, if they find physical damage (and what you described is certainly physical damage) they will consider the device out of warranty and charge her account the out of warranty fee.
These devices are reviewed by a team given specifications by the manufacturer to look for specific things that the manufacturer deems physical damage, liquid damage, excessive use, etc.
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.... She went into t-mobile and they said that they wont replace it because it was her fault. Is there something else we could say like it always drops signal or something so they will replace it for? ....
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I didn't want to come off as a **** and tell you to suck it up and pay for it, but the thing is, she did break it and T-Mo or HTC shouldn't be on the hook for the cost of replacement.
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If this is in fact the case, USB host support will probably be much trickier to implement, and a lot more risky to use. A hardware pathway will always be what it is. Software is more fickle, and has to be very closely checked and managed when dealing with something like this. If it's software that's regulating your power flow, you can very easily send too much to the wrong place and permanently break something.
Breaking a whole series of phones because we were too eager to release software that wasn't tested thoroughly enough would be a heavy blow to manufacturers agreeing to ship devices with S-OFF bootloaders.
I don't know if people have read up on that struggle, but one of the primary concerns against doing so was people overclocking their devices way above manufacturer specs, breaking them because they didn't know better, and manufacturers seeing a dramatic increase in returns. The cost to the companies like HTC for dealing with irresponsible end users was always one of the shields thrown up to justify shipping S-ON.
Since this is an overclock thread, and discussing USB host support is something else that could physically damage/destroy the device hardware - this is worth mentioning and making people aware of.
Search around on XDA and you'll see threads here and there over the last few years about what we've had to go through to get phones shipped S-OFF. The MT4GS wasn't, but the time is now for that to start happening. In the future most (if not all) phones will be coming S-OFF fresh out of the box.
I strongly urge anyone involved in overclocking or USB host support to be very cautious about what they are doing, and very aware of the potential damage they can do not just to a few peoples phones (which is bad enough) but to un-do years of hard work and lobbying by the open source community as a whole.
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While i'm waiting for a big download to finish on my slow-as-dialup (literally) home internet connection, i'd just like to repost here part of what I just posted in the dev section.
Phone manufacturers seeing an increase of returned phones that they have to eat the cost for because of something brain-dead or irresponsible the end user has done really hurts everyone.
The cost of phones go up, and while in this case specifically it has little to do with us finally getting S-OFF bootloaders on retail phones - the RMA total is just a number and isn't always broken down to specific causes when used as a statistic.
Any phones being returned that shouldn't be gets tallied up on a specific section of the balance sheet of a phone manufacturers (and to a smaller degree, cellular providers).
Now that we are finally starting to get phones shipped with S-OFF bootloaders, and the need for the amazingly brilliant work the Revolutionary release represents is fading, something like this is one small blow to that achievement.
The level of brilliance, creativity and dedication that had to come together for the MT4GS to get an aftermarket S-OFF bootloader blows my mind. The people who came up with the Revolutionary exploit are the kind of people that rocket scientists get intimidated by intellectually. (no exaggeration, they are the literal select few)
Think about how much more would be available to us as a community that we could do with our devices if people like that could focus their time on developing end-user applications or other software for the phone. Instead they are set with the next-to-impossible task of making it possible for all the rest of us to develop for these devices.
I know you don't see it as a big deal about finding a way for T-Mo or HTC to eat the cost of the broken phone, but the ripple effect of many people doing what is being suggested in this thread impacts issues most people would never think about, probably not even aware of.
I know it sucks to be saddled with the cost of breaking such an expensive piece of equipment. ultimately, though, the responsibility needs to rest on the shoulders of the person who actually caused it to happen.
What I would recommend is to look into an aftermarket repair service. There are some really good ones out there that specialize in high-end phones like the MT4GS.
This link:
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afaik no its not
http://www.ifixsmartphone.com/smartphone_repair/MyTouch_4G_Slide_teardown.html
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Is to a place (in california, I think) that repairs phones - and shows a step by step on how to replace the screen on the MT4GS specifically.
I would start on their site, and see what it would cost to repair the USB port on the phone. It might not turn out to be that much, but this would be a great first step to take in finding out.
Like I started with, didn't want to just come out and say "too bad", I wanted to really explain why it's not a good thing for all of us to try to find a way to make the manufacturer pay for something that isn't their fault. I hope that providing you with a starting point to finding the resolution of the problem softens the blow a bit of having to hear that.
I wish the best of luck to you, and if you do get it repaired, maybe share the experience and the cost here for others to be made aware of.
I walked into my local tmo store, said "my phone is all messed up from the ota update, it doesn't even boot up all the way, I need it replaced under warranty since its been less than a year"
They asked for an address. I got the new phone in the mail a couple days later then brought my old one in so they could send it back for me.
They didn't even check out my phone in the first place. Look for the lazy employee
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also a temporary fix would be getting an external battery charger.
Ya I've done 4 exchanged for my chicks mytouch and they never ask to ts.. we just say it keeps getting a deadstop on the screen..
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Just tell them it's having an issue that you know they can't/won't spend the time to replicate.
My phone randomly restarts
My screen goes blank and I have to take the battery out
When I click the camera it always tells me "Cannot connect to camera"
OP, your mom broke the phone - plain and simple. It's not a hardware failure, and as much as it sucks she needs to suck it up and buy a new one.
People bullshitting warranty returns on items they broke only drive up the costs for everyone else.
Alright.. well I'll be straight up honest with you.
I can't imagine how that happened to your phone. Obviously it is a user mistake, and thus it doesn't legitimately qualify for a warranty replacement.
You have the choice to take it in to get fixed, I'm sure there are many people who can do the repairs in your area. It might cost you upwards of $50 (don't quote me on that)
You can call T-mobile, and BS your way through the warranty department to get them to send you a new one, like everyone else has said. From an ethical stand point, you don't need me to tell you that's wrong, because it's lying and essentially cheating. If you choose to go that way, you will be required to pay $15 for shipping and handling, however that does not stop there. T-mobile WILL inspect your phone. Most of the time, people get away with it, but I have had a friend who tried to cut through the system and got caught (he cracked his screen and filed it as the OTA update ruined his phone). The consequence is simple, you pay full price for your replacement phone (which would be several hundred dollars). Moreover, your replacement phone isn't even a new phone, it is a refurbished device which might only just look new. Back in the day when I still had my G1, the sliding hinge came loose like it did on a bunch of them so I got a warranty replacement on it. The one they sent me came with two dead pixels on the screen, but I just didn't want to fork out another $15 to get a replacement.
So really, you can pay the money to get it fixed, and it'll still be your phone, the new phone that you paid for. Or you can cheat and send it back, pay the $15 and risk getting caught and having to pay a couple hundred for a refurbished phone.
Yeap, Its ALWAYS better to do it over the phone. Sound frustrated but not angry and they'll always kiss your butt.
Actually they chargre 130 if the phone has damage and u lie to get a warranty replacement. They don't charge full price
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Actually they chargre 130 if the phone has damage and u lie to get a warranty replacement. They don't charge full price
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I can confirm this. However, in my case it was legit. I was charged for the water detector sticker being pink although it was never dropped in water and the reason for my returning the phone wasn't water related at all. The hinge was loose as hell on my phone and I wanted this taken care of. The only reason why the sticker was pink was due to having wet hands when inserting my battery into the phone since I don't ever charge my phone via USB and use a separate wall charger and just swap batteries when I need to charge my batteries.
Well sorry to the people who are against wasting warranty replacements but money is tight and the replacement is on the way and believe me I was post when I found out she some how broke the USB port -.- but she said my little sister tripped on it while it was charging and that's when it broke!
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Wierd enough i just came home to find my warranty replacement from asurion.... And to my suprise they sent me a new phone in the mytouch box with the important stickers on the side of the box. I lost my phone and i decide to file a claim which i had to pay 130. However the first phone they sent me was a refurbish one it did not came in the mytouch box and looked used. I found out it had 4 missing pixels so i call asurion to get a warranty replacement and they send me a new one. Now i get to keep the 2 batteries and 2 chargers because they say they only want the phone not the battery or back cover or charger. Anyone experience something like this before?
Like really they decide to send me a refurb phone after i paid for a new phone because i lost my phone and i get a brand new warranty replacement? Wtf thats just so wierd to me
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Wierd enough i just came home to find my warranty replacement from asurion.... And to my suprise they sent me a new phone in the mytouch box with the important stickers on the side of the box. I lost my phone and i decide to file a claim which i had to pay 130. However the first phone they sent me was a refurbish one it did not came in the mytouch box and looked used. I found out it had 4 missing pixels so i call asurion to get a warranty replacement and they send me a new one. Now i get to keep the 2 batteries and 2 chargers because they say they only want the phone not the battery or back cover or charger. Anyone experience something like this before?
Like really they decide to send me a refurb phone after i paid for a new phone because i lost my phone and i get a brand new warranty replacement? Wtf thats just so wierd to me
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Warranty replacement is different...you had an insurance claim and yes Asurion will usually send a refurbished but I have yet to get a refurb that wasn't obviously flawed within an hour of use...you call and complain they will overnight a new one at that point. Warranty would be if it broke and not your fault...and I have only had to pay 5 bucks for the both my replacement phones but I think it is cause i have the full insurance plan...warranty should cover all fees to replace but oh well. You agree when they go to send you a replacement that there is not physical damage or such so don't be surprised when you get a nasty charge on your bill....
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Warranty replacement is different...you had an insurance claim and yes Asurion will usually send a refurbished but I have yet to get a refurb that wasn't obviously flawed within an hour of use...you call and complain they will overnight a new one at that point. Warranty would be if it broke and not your fault...and I have only had to pay 5 bucks for the both my replacement phones but I think it is cause i have the full insurance plan...warranty should cover all fees to replace but oh well. You agree when they go to send you a replacement that there is not physical damage or such so don't be surprised when you get a nasty charge on your bill....
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Well it was for dead pixels on the screen so the phone isnt damage or anything. They cant charge me anything.
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Well it was for dead pixels on the screen so the phone isnt damage or anything. They cant charge me anything.
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Sorry i was talking about the OP on that one
8/22/12 UPDATE: My HOX has sworn off whiskey and is now leading a sober, healthy lifestyle.
So I switched to AT&T from Sprint in March and got the Note. The GPS stopped working about 5 weeks ago and about 3 weeks ago I exchanged it for a refurbished one at an AT&T repair center. The day after I got the "new" one I traded it for a HOX because I wanted something smaller that I didn't have to worry about having GPS issues.
A few hours ago I unfortunately poured a significant amount of whiskey on it. I didn't have any rice but popped out the sim card and used a hair dryer pointed in the opening. I think it's dry now and while the screen looks fine it is 95% unresponsive to touch so the phone seems to be ruined. Needless to say the water damage strip in the sim slot is bright pink.
Is it even worth begging for mercy at an AT&T store, repair center or over the phone? What might they possibly do? Anyone had a similar experience? Need advice please.
If AT&T won't do something extraordinarily nice for me I guess my only option for a new phone would be the Galaxy Nexus but even $350 will be hard to swallow. Otherwise I guess it's gambling on eBay or craigslist for a really good deal on a Nexus, HOX or GS3. Or a Note if it's a deal that's just too good to pass up. What to do, what to do....this sucks.
Your phone might just die if you use it without first drying all the whiskey inside it. Although it might turn back on, if there still is whiskey, it will kill the circuit or whatever is inside the phone
You could try selling it on eBay for spare parts. Sending it for repair won't do you any good and you are likely not going to find a att store willing to exchange it.
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your phone is high. Give it a day or so to sober up.
I dont respond touches after a whiskey either.
Remove the SIM tray. If the indicator there is white, you're ok. If it's red, you're boned.
Since it's already marked as being water damaged do a proper cleaning of it using distilled water and getting some white rice to suck the moisture out overnight. Here's a step-by-step you might want to follow.
http://www.ehow.com/how_6679859_fix-oil-soaked-cell-phone.html
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Remove the SIM tray. If the indicator there is white, you're ok. If it's red, you're boned.
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bleach will take care of that red....
Not honest but..
Not kidding..
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your phone is high. Give it a day or so to sober up.
I dont respond touches after a whiskey either.
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funny, my wife does....
You borked your phone, and you expect AT&T to swallow the expense (which in turn will be passed down to its customers)?
Suck it up and buy a new phone.
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your phone is high. Give it a day or so to sober up.
I dont respond touches after a whiskey either.
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Believe it or not, I acquired some rice and left the phone in it overnight and it seems to have sobered up. Now it appears the only consequence of phone's drinking binge is a tripped water damage indicator.
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You borked your phone, and you expect AT&T to swallow the expense (which in turn will be passed down to its customers)?
Suck it up and buy a new phone.
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You have poor reading comprehension.
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You have poor reading comprehension.
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How so? You broke your phone and are asking AT&T will do something "extraordinarily nice" for you. Anything they do for you (replace the phone, discount, early upgrade) is money out of their pockets (and ultimately all of ours).
Yes, you also mentioned just buying a new phone. Its my opinion you do that.
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So I switched to AT&T from Sprint in March and got the Note. The GPS stopped working about 5 weeks ago and about 3 weeks ago I exchanged it for a refurbished one at an AT&T repair center. The day after I got the "new" one I traded it for a HOX because I wanted something smaller that I didn't have to worry about having GPS issues.
A few hours ago I unfortunately poured a significant amount of whiskey on it. I didn't have any rice but popped out the sim card and used a hair dryer pointed in the opening. I think it's dry now and while the screen looks fine it is 95% unresponsive to touch so the phone seems to be ruined. Needless to say the water damage strip in the sim slot is bright pink.
Is it even worth begging for mercy at an AT&T store, repair center or over the phone? What might they possibly do? Anyone had a similar experience? Need advice please.
If AT&T won't do something extraordinarily nice for me I guess my only option for a new phone would be the Galaxy Nexus but even $350 will be hard to swallow. Otherwise I guess it's gambling on eBay or craigslist for a really good deal on a Nexus, HOX or GS3. Or a Note if it's a deal that's just too good to pass up. What to do, what to do....this sucks.
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I did the same thing back when i had the touch pro 2. Only difference was i was driving and after ending my phone call i put my phone in my cars cup holder. Stupid me forgot that i had a open cup of coffee there. Dropped the phone right in there.
Did the rice thing and the phone wouldn't turn on. I called up HTC and told them what happened. They said to ship them the phone and pay $20 because my phone was the unlocked international model.
A week later i got a call back saying they fixed my phone and they'll be shipping it back for free.
Note: My phone didn't have any warranty because it was international, and also it was more than a year old. I was running a custom rom (NRG energy rom) that should have voided warranty.
HTC didn't charge me anything to fix the phone. I didn't go through AT&T. I went straight to HTC repair center. I don't know if the guy didn't care or it was really good customer service so you might want to try a few times. I don't know why you think it's not worth even asking. What would you lose by trying? If it doesn't work the first time have your wife/girlfriend/sister call and act like an idiot.
Site note: this awesome customer service is what convinced me to only buy HTC phones from there on (and i have).
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I did the same thing back when i had the touch pro 2. Only difference was i was driving and after ending my phone call i put my phone in my cars cup holder. Stupid me forgot that i had a open cup of coffee there. Dropped the phone right in there.
Did the rice thing and the phone wouldn't turn on. I called up HTC and told them what happened. They said to ship them the phone and pay $20 because my phone was the unlocked international model.
A week later i got a call back saying they fixed my phone and they'll be shipping it back for free.
Note: My phone didn't have any warranty because it was international, and also it was more than a year old. I was running a custom rom (NRG energy rom) that should have voided warranty.
HTC didn't charge me anything to fix the phone. I didn't go through AT&T. I went straight to HTC repair center. I don't know if the guy didn't care or it was really good customer service so you might want to try a few times. I don't know why you think it's not worth even asking. What would you lose by trying? If it doesn't work the first time have your wife/girlfriend/sister call and act like an idiot.
Site note: this awesome customer service is what convinced me to only buy HTC phones from there on (and i have).
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Interesting testimony. Every other account I've heard on here is that HTC is absolutely brutal with denying warranty service, particularly for water damage. And that your better bet is to go through AT&T.
Considering your nick and avatar, it would have been funnier if the water damage to your phone was due to booze, like the OP.
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Interesting testimony. Every other account I've heard on here is that HTC is absolutely brutal with denying warranty service, particularly for water damage. And that your better bet is to go through AT&T.
Considering your nick and avatar, it would have been funnier if the water damage to your phone was due to booze, like the OP.
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Yayy first HOX post. You're about to get a few of us coming over who got out SGS2 warrantied out for skyrockets. But we complained and got offered HOX. SO that being said having said that. I suggest you go through att. If you get the right CS rep. They're able to help. Just a suggestion.
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I dropped mine in a contaminated puddle and it also became unresponsive. After awhile it finally started working and the only after effect is the pink indicator strip and my recent button no longer lights up. Other than that, it works like a champ.
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Believe it or not, I acquired some rice and left the phone in it overnight and it seems to have sobered up. Now it appears the only consequence of phone's drinking binge is a tripped water damage indicator.
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My EVO 3D survived a swim in the pool.
It took about a week but she is back other than the camera is borked.
I let it dry out in the sun, then completely removed the housing and really cleaned and dried it. Tough little phone good to know the hox is up to a few shots
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My EVO 3D survived a swim in the pool.
It took about a week but she is back other than the camera is borked.
I let it dry out in the sun, then completely removed the housing and really cleaned and dried it. Tough little phone good to know the hox is up to a few shots
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Bad thing about the HOX is you can't take it apart very easily.
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You borked your phone, and you expect AT&T to swallow the expense (which in turn will be passed down to its customers)?
Suck it up and buy a new phone.
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That is a very unfair/inaccurate summary!
Something ****ty happened to the OP, and he fully realizes it's his fault.
OP posts a question about the best course of action, explicitly saying that it would be amazingly kind of at&t to help him out.
He does not "...expect AT&T to swallow the expense..."
I hear what you're saying, redpoint73, but he isn't trying to con anyone (like the bleach comment) or avoid taking responsibility, the dude just wants some advice! Your suggestion to get a Gnex is a good one.
AT&T's job is to make money, they can make money by charging for repairs, make money by trying to have good customer service as a long-term investment, or maybe decide not to help because of the costs. SO, I second someone else's sentiments: might as well contact at&t and/or HTC to see if they will fix it up - I doubt it's cheap, but probably cheaper than new phone, and worse that can happen is they say "no."
If you like the Note, try to wait a while, I think the Note 2 is supposedly going to be announced sept 15. After the announcement, and again after it is actually on sale, I would expect the price of a used Note to drop significantly, $100-200. Good luck!
I very highly doubt it, but if you talk with a manager/higher power, it's possible. I've heard stories of people talking their way out of the replacement fee.
Then again, most of those have been customers for years.
My account, for example, has been active since 1996, and we use AT&T for cell phone, home phone, tv and internet. From that we usually get our way if we talk to upper management