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Motorola has posted the source for the backflip. Hopefully this info helps us get this phone opened up from at&t's crippling efforts. Thanks to nokternl at modmymoto for finding this!
https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/frs/do/viewRelease/projects.backflip/frs.backflip_mb300_at_t_usa.rel12_1199
Side rant.....
I really wish we had a motorola forum on XDA, and to all the haters suggesting we return the phone don't waste your time. Many of us are stuck with at&t for work or coverage reasons, and even locked down i, and many others prefer this to an iphone 3g.
BACKFLIP SYSTEM DUMP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642684
BACKFLIP ADB GUIDE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643866
Yes, it would be nice to have a board for the Moto. I only paid $50 for the phone, so I'm going to give it a shot, moving away from Blackberry after many dedicated years... May have to switch back after all the terrible things I've heard about my new purchase, should have done a bit more research. Also, a bit about my purchase experience with AT&FingT:
I want to start by saying that I’ve had the pleasure of working with ATT for the last 5 years. While they’ve had “decent” service, I still drop calls in the middle of downtown Seattle, downtown Bellevue, etc, just unacceptable.
We ordered a new Motorola Backflip, the first Android O/S phone that ATT has released. It released April 7th, and we ordered that afternoon online. The ads are everywhere, front page of ATT’s site, TV ads… $99 after mail in rebate with a new 2 year contract. So we ordered, and here’s the kicker. On the invoice we saw “not eligible for mail in rebate”. ??? The orders get placed through the Premier site, so I had to contact Premier to find out why. The answer was that we upgraded the phone only, not the phone and a voice plan. What? Ok, we already have the unlimited voice @ $69/mo, what more do we need here? Come to find out, it is invalid, because it just requires a $39 voice plan, but Premier would not budge on it!
Be careful how you order!!! Going into a store may be the best way to do it, or ordering by phone with a representative. Another thing that gets to me is how they bill for the phone. You can’t simply have it added to your bill if you are a residential (or whatever the term is) customer. I am also the telecom manager at work, and I can have handset purchases billed to my account all day long. I’ve been a “residential” customer longer than my company has had ATT service. My company only hosts 5 phones! What’s the difference here?
Ok, so I call in to order another Backflip, I guess I’m a glutton for punishment. Ordering for my workplace, so billing to the account is no problem. I called in, and was told that they would wave the activation fee and give me an additional $50 off. I had to get manager approval, so after that I call back in. The guy on the phone is trying to get $149 out of me right off the bat, even though I informed him of the huge TV ads, and front of their website. I was told “it might not be available in your area”. What? Its a national freakin ad! He looked into it a bit further and I only paid $49. So there you have it, call in or go in. And don’t let them try to weasel their way out of their promotion!
I second the motion... a motorola forum would be great. I have worked for At&t for the past 2 years and have had every phone imaginable including an Iphone 3G and 3GS and i have to say i actually prefer the backflip.
nogoldformarfa said:
I second the motion... a motorola forum would be great. I have worked for At&t for the past 2 years and have had every phone imaginable including an Iphone 3G and 3GS and i have to say i actually prefer the backflip.
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there are lots of motorola forums to help. alldroid.org modmymoto ect..
though it would be nice to have some love from XDA but its well known fact XDA is HTC dedicated minus a couple phones that arent HTC.
moosefist said:
Motorola has posted the source for the backflip. Hopefully this info helps us get this phone opened up from at&t's crippling efforts. Thanks to nokternl at modmymoto for finding this!
https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/frs/do/viewRelease/projects.backflip/frs.backflip_mb300_at_t_usa.rel12_1199
Side rant.....
I really wish we had a motorola forum on XDA, and to all the haters suggesting we return the phone don't waste your time. Many of us are stuck with at&t for work or coverage reasons, and even locked down i, and many others prefer this to an iphone 3g.
BACKFLIP SYSTEM DUMP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642684
BACKFLIP ADB GUIDE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643866
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Thank You!!
And; I agree with you 100%.
Although, I'm not stuck with At&t, I love them till the end of the earth... Kinda strange too.
Thank you for the find moosfist.
Also FLAR if you read this.... IM BACK!! its been a while and im back. Flar or any mod that knows me or not, ive been a part of XDA for a long time but took a leave of absense and please consider these earlier posts on having a backflip forum as I also have one and would love to see a backflip forum on XDA as theres no other site out there as complete as this. besides theres many phones that have android on XDA that can correlate with the backflip and vice-versa.
Thank you for your consideration in advanced
_RMB_
been hangin around here for over a year now (kaiser)... would really like to see a section for the backflip... i plan on using both my kaiser and backflip so coming to one place for both devices would be awesome...
fasterdenu said:
been hangin around here for over a year now (kaiser)... would really like to see a section for the backflip... i plan on using both my kaiser and backflip so coming to one place for both devices would be awesome...
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The problem is there isn't an active dev community for the phone. If we get root, that may develop. Unfortunately the backflip isn't a super phone, so the super developers aren't likely to work to hard for supporting it.
Actually, my suggestion would be to head over to modaco's android forum.. that way you'll get the best android support short of the htc guys over here. Modmymoto and modmygphone (same family along with modmyiphone, lol) for more support. I personally hang out here and over at modaco, and with the 3g I still play with (primarily for wifi playing of only a few games) I go to modmyi, xsellize and a few other sites.. so its never harmful to deversify..
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Today I wrote a complaint to AT&T for interfering with HTC's bootloader unlock and I received this response:
Dear Christopher,
Thank you for contacting AT&T about your wireless service. My name is
Daniel D., and I will be more than happy to assist you with your inquiry
regarding software updates/OS information today.
I apologize for any frustrations that this may have caused you. After
some research, I am happy to inform you that AT&T doesn't interfere with
the software updates that the phone manufacturers provide. The only
stipulation that AT&T would have would be to ensure that the OS would be
optimized for AT&T's network. Please be aware that AT&T doesn't make
software for phones and we would never prevent our customers from
getting a better software update or OS.
We are sorry to hear that you are considering canceling for something
that is out of our control. In this case we recommend that you speak to
the manufacturer of the device. HTC can be reached at 866-449-8358.
If you have any additional questions about this issue, please respond to
this e-mail. If you have a question about another issue, please send us
a new e-mail via the Contact Us link in the lower left-hand corner of
your myAT&T account. Thank you for choosing AT&T; we appreciate your
business.
Daniel D.
eCare Customer Service Specialist
AT&T Business Solutions Customer Care
Business Care: 611 or 1-800-331-0500
Online account management: att.com/myatt
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The CSR seems to be indicating that AT&T isn't meddling and that the decision is HTC's. It's vague, non-commital customer service speak and almost certainly not true. . . . He also refers to the bootloader unlock as a software update from the manufacturer, so perhaps he just has no idea what I'm talking about.
I've written back asking for clarification on AT&T's official policy.
I suggest anyone who is unhappy with AT&T's behavior write to customer service and let them know.
It can't hurt to formally let them know that you're not pleased. Even if you're hooked into a contract at the moment, they really do care if you're less willing to renew next time around.
czucker said:
Today I wrote a complaint to AT&T for interfering with HTC's bootloader unlock and I received this response:
The CSR seems to be indicating that AT&T isn't meddling and that the decision is HTC's. It's vague, non-commital customer service speak and almost certainly not true. . .
I've written back asking for clarification on AT&T's official policy.
I suggest anyone who is unhappy with AT&T's behavior write to customer service and let them know.
It can't hurt to formally let them know that you're not pleased. Even if you're hooked into a contract at the moment, they really do care if you're less willing to renew next time around.
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taht's a standard AT&T kiss off letter. They're saying they don't do anything to prevent HTC from sending updates to phones. Not That they aren't preventing the bootloader from being unlocked.
Big Bro does it again
Standard BS reply from the big bro... u know urself nothing in that letter is what they say it to be...
I sort of figured as much and edited my original post to reflect that. . .
It may not help, but I still reckon it doesn't hurt to write a letter or two.
To ensure a safe and consistent experience for our wireless customers, AT&T does not support unlocked bootloaders. I understand that this will not satisfy your complaint, but this is AT&T’s official response to your complaint and I’ve submitted this information as our response to the BBB.
Please contact me with any further questions or concerns.
Regards,
Keith Morrisette
Customer Appeals Manager, Executive Response
AT&T Business Solutions
Office: 952 703-2344
Wireless: 952 847-3709
Fax: 952 703-2307
This message, including any attachments, is the property of and may contain confidential information of AT&T. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender of the error and delete this message and any attachments.
this is what i got from my bbb complaint.
porkaysi said:
To ensure a safe and consistent experience for our wireless customers, AT&T does not support unlocked bootloaders. I understand that this will not satisfy your complaint, but this is AT&T’s official response to your complaint and I’ve submitted this information as our response to the BBB.
Please contact me with any further questions or concerns.
Regards,
Keith Morrisette
Customer Appeals Manager, Executive Response
AT&T Business Solutions
Office: 952 703-2344
Wireless: 952 847-3709
Fax: 952 703-2307
This message, including any attachments, is the property of and may contain confidential information of AT&T. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender of the error and delete this message and any attachments.
this is what i got from my bbb complaint.
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Me too almost to the letter.
I'll write in as well
porkaysi said:
To ensure a safe and consistent experience for our wireless customers, AT&T does not support unlocked bootloaders. I understand that this will not satisfy your complaint, but this is AT&T’s official response to your complaint and I’ve submitted this information as our response to the BBB.
Please contact me with any further questions or concerns.
Regards,
Keith Morrisette
Customer Appeals Manager, Executive Response
AT&T Business Solutions
Office: 952 703-2344
Wireless: 952 847-3709
Fax: 952 703-2307
This message, including any attachments, is the property of and may contain confidential information of AT&T. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender of the error and delete this message and any attachments.
this is what i got from my bbb complaint.
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SAFE? Gimme a break... Whatever AT&T keep the bootloaders locked! We will brick countless devices over and over until we find our exploit and you can foot the bill. Or you can let us unlock through HTCdev like the rest of the world and save yourself the time/money.
Oh no wait, that would be the smart thing to do, and you are all Morons.
Att reps have no idea what they're doing. This is a good example.
They basically said the exact same thing about the vivid when it was released. I didn't buy it then and don't know.
But thanks to the heat devs here we are able to unlock it anyway.
They can't stop the brilliant minds at work here.
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Dear Christopher,
Thank you for contacting AT&T about your wireless service. My name is
Daniel D., and I will be more than happy to assist you with your inquiry
regarding software updates/OS information today.
I apologize for any frustrations that this may have caused you. After
some research, I am happy to inform you that AT&T doesn't interfere with
the software updates that the phone manufacturers provide. The only
stipulation that AT&T would have would be to ensure that the OS would be
optimized for AT&T's network. Please be aware that AT&T doesn't make
software for phones and we would never prevent our customers from
getting a better software update or OS.
We are sorry to hear that you are considering canceling for something
that is out of our control. In this case we recommend that you speak to
the manufacturer of the device. HTC can be reached at 866-449-8358.
If you have any additional questions about this issue, please respond to
this e-mail. If you have a question about another issue, please send us
a new e-mail via the Contact Us link in the lower left-hand corner of
your myAT&T account. Thank you for choosing AT&T; we appreciate your
business.
Daniel D.
eCare Customer Service Specialist
AT&T Business Solutions Customer Care
Business Care: 611 or 1-800-331-0500
Online account management: att.com/myatt
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There was something wrong with this letter, but I fixed it.
The guy has no idea. He doesn't even know what BL Unlock is. And he doesn't realize that AT&T DOES in fact prevent a lot of customers from using different software.
All of this is happen before and all will happen again.
I purchased the vivid right when it came out and we when thru hell to get any development going. Letters were sent to AT&T and HTC and they just laughed in our faces.
We called Mr.Chou a lair openly in the Twitter and facebook pages and to this day, they still claim he was not lying about not locking the bootloaders.
They eventually allowed the unlocking of the bootloader and then we got s-off. It was about 3 moths after release.
By contrast, note the HOX had some holes we have now xploided the the vivid did not have. So I think we have an advantage.
This is XDA some things may be difficult but definitely not impossible.
Sent from my HTC One X
Went through this with the Evo 3D as well..HTC wouldn't unlock the bootloader and a month later we had S-Off and not to far after the HTC Unlock tool came about. I still have hope for this device
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carlosjcar said:
All of this is happen before and all will happen again.
I purchased the vivid right when it came out and we when thru hell to get any development going. Letters were sent to AT&T and HTC and they just laughed in our faces.
We called Mr.Chou a lair openly in the Twitter and facebook pages and to this day, they still claim he was not lying about not locking the bootloaders.
They eventually allowed the unlocking of the bootloader and then we got s-off. It was about 3 moths after release.
By contrast, note the HOX had some holes we have now xploided the the vivid did not have. So I think we have an advantage.
This is XDA some things may be difficult but definitely not impossible.
Sent from my HTC One X
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I wonder if they really know what a boot loader is and what the difference is between locked or unlocked. Also why would they say they don't lock the boot loader? If I was talking to him on the phone (or better yet, in person), I would tell him "Look, grab your HTC Vivid there. Hold down power and Volume down. It will boot into hboot. What do you see at the top?"
Doubt it would of helped though. And oh well. You know, you've just got to have some bumps in the road. We all need to have conversations with head guys over at AT&T every now and then. Laughter is good medicine. And you know what, if they are not cooperative... give them a link to the GFY page (some forums have a GFY button but this does not, defuq is up with that???), and do it yourself.
I do agree, difficult but not impossible. XDA Devs are awesome!
I wonder why this bootlader still isnt officialy unlockable? My new ATT OneX+ with cid CWS_001 is unlockable at HTC dev. I wasnt sure if you guys were aware of that. The plot thickens . Makes no sense to me.. Everyone sell your hox and get a hox+ lol. Bring Rom devs with you!
nugzo said:
I wonder why this bootlader still isnt officialy unlockable? My new ATT OneX+ with cid CWS_001 is unlockable at HTC dev. I wasnt sure if you guys were aware of that. The plot thickens . Makes no sense to me.. Everyone sell your hox and get a hox+ lol. Bring Rom devs with you!
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It is quite odd, but I'll wait until they release a Qualcomm quad core phone.
I've also read that the hox+ has a sub par screen compared to ours
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superchilpil said:
It is quite odd, but I'll wait until they release a Qualcomm quad core phone.
I've also read that the hox+ has a sub par screen compared to ours
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I haven't noticed any difference in the screen. JB is smooth, Gaming is awesome if you do that. The Hox+ stock feels as smooth as my tweaked Oc'd hox with custom roms. And i'm loving the 64gb! No regrets at all. Wish there was more development... but that'll come. I can test the screens side by side Monday. Left the hox at work. And yes it is ODD that the bootloader is unlockable at launch.
nugzo said:
I haven't noticed any difference in the screen. JB is smooth, Gaming is awesome if you do that. The Hox+ stock feels as smooth as my tweaked Oc'd hox with custom roms. And i'm loving the 64gb! No regrets at all. Wish there was more development... but that'll come. I can test the screens side by side Monday. Left the hox at work. And yes it is ODD that the bootloader is unlockable at launch.
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I'd love 64gb on the one x, never understood why they did that to this phone.
I guess they figure we are going to find out how unlock regardless so might as well give us what they promised in the first place
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HTC DNA for Verizon was supported on htcdev up until launch day. Then it got pulled so its not unlockable(out of box). So at this point I'm fairly confused as to which phones are not unlockable and why......... Doesn't really matter why, but its not knowing that makes it so interesting
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18th.abn said:
HTC DNA for Verizon was supported on htcdev up until launch day. Then it got pulled so its not unlockable(out of box). So at this point I'm fairly confused as to which phones are not unlockable and why......... Doesn't really matter why, but its not knowing that makes it so interesting
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I swear I saw that coming...they were all happy and all fair witha all the HTC elevate members and whoever got the phone before hand and let the bl process be there till the night before...that makes me wonder why!!! Why do they Care so much..Verizon made some really questionable decisions with that device sucks as 16 gb no menu remap(come on?) No sd slot(really?) ....i wish HTC weren't in such a slump right now...they make the best phones in my opinions but when they come to the see US the carriers have them by their balls
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/1...:+DroidLife+(droid+life)&utm_content=FaceBook
This was reported in Droid life
XRSTOY1 said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/1...:+DroidLife+(droid+life)&utm_content=FaceBook
This was reported in Droid life
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That looks like a dream come true, but I will stay awake until this happens. Thanks for the news mate.
I have heard similar stories, this is great news for those of us who aren't willing or can't spend $600 on a developer edition phone. I wonder how "soon" soon is ;-)
What are you confused about by the way?
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shimp208 said:
I have heard similar stories, this is great news for those of us who aren't willing or can't spend $600 on a developer edition phone. I wonder how "soon" soon is ;-)
What are you confused about by the way?
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I'm confused about: will they or won't they unlock it? I hope it's true...
Though some chats are very specific to the meaning behind unlock, I can't help but think that this means GSM unlock.
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Obviously I hope it's true but I severely doubt it. I mean, how often do low level customer service reps know info like that before we do? Out of the 6 people I talked to at vzw none even knew the phone was shipped early for pre orders...
Hopefully it's not a way to trick the masses into upgrading to block the way we get root now.
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Div033 said:
Though some chats are very specific to the meaning behind unlock, I can't help but think that this means GSM unlock.
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This is what I'm thinking as they've been mentioning that specific unlock for some time as part of an early OTA update. I hope it's the bootloader that's really being discussed but I certainly have my doubts.
We can only wait and see.
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Not going to happen...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771335 (Read 2nd edit)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775707
maybe
Well, I don't believe it either, but there might be some light at the end of the tunnel. I went into chat and asked. I encourage as many people to do this just so verizon may realize there's a huge interest for it. To do this, just go to the verizon page and pretend you're buying the SIII. There's a button that says 'chat with rep', or just wait there for a minute and you will get a popup.
Here's my transcript... If you don't believe me, go do it yourself!
Please hold for a Verizon Wireless sales representative to assist you with your order. Thank you for your patience.
You are now chatting with 'Alesha'
Mike: Hi! I'm interested in the S III but don't like it having the locked bootloader. Will Verizon release an update to unlock the bootloader?
Alesha: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
Alesha: ?
Alesha: Yes
Mike: This isn't the GSM unlocker so you can use the phone wherever in the world, this is to unlock the bootloader to allow for developers, correct?
Alesha: Right
Mike: and is there an ETA on this?
Alesha: No information released
Mike: OK, well, thank you very much for the information!
Don't believe these Verizon reps for a second. Many of them can't think for themselves and only regurgitate what the higher ups tell them. I worked in their call center last year and most of my co-workers had no idea what rooting, roms, bootloaders, etc. were.
NOT happening.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/1...re-update-to-unlock-the-galaxy-s3-bootloader/
Not very optimistic:
Dear Alexander,
Thank you for taking the time to email in with regards to the Samsung Galaxy SIII. Alexander, my name is Nick. I hear you with regards to the locked bootloader situation. I too was hoping we would follow suit. Currently we will be offering the developers version of the SIII, which comes with a unlocked bootloader for our customers. I do hope that we make a change to the current model that is out, and that we unlock the bootloader, but currently there are no plans to do so. At the very least I hope that we at least consider selling the unlocked version in a subsidized manner with a contract, as opposed to selling it full retail through Samsung.
Your voices are being heard, and I hope we truly consider some other options for our customers in the development community. In the meantime, really, the only other option I can recommend is to maybe sell your SIII. I am sure you can find someone who may not be interested in the unlocked version, but would like to upgrade to that phone and not be under contract. Remember the 16 GB model starts at $599.99. Depending how much you paid, I would charge as much as possible for the phone since they are coming out on top without the contract, and use the money you get towards the unlocked version. It may not be ideal, but at least there are some options for now.
Thank you for being the best part of Verizon Wireless, Alexander. Take care and have a great week.
Sincerely,
Nick
Verizon Wireless
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Can't believe he told you to sell the device.
Yea, that was like a wtf moment. What I interpreted it as was "Buy device for $200, try to gamble it off for at least $400. Then go shell out another $200 and purchase the developer edition."
Not only does that void any chance of insurance but I would purchase the phone unsubsidized if I wanted a "Developer's Phone".
This is a new corporate low even their employees don't like their actions. I work for Apple, we would never tell our customers to do something like that.
EDIT: Just to clarify, no I am not an apple fanboy... I do not own an apple product. Not even an iPod. It's just my job to represent them.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/1...re-update-to-unlock-the-galaxy-s3-bootloader/
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Users please read the thread before posting. This link is already posted
Ok, as of 4.4.x The device was unlock-able unless you pay some money to a Chinese website.
WARNING: You must legally own the device off contract for this to work!
Here are a few steps to try
1) https COLON SLASH SLASH motorola-global-portal DOT custhelp DOT com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Go through the sign in process, and follow the instructions it is very straight forward. IF This does not work, which it did not for me, move onto step 2.
2) Call Verizon Wireless 1 (800) 922-0204. Provide them with your IEMI AND OEM Boot Unlock Code, found by following steps in step 1. The process of unlocking the device from VZW contract status can take up to 48 hours. Once done, go to the step 1 and go through the process of getting your unlock code.
They lock the devices because people who usually purchase these phones get them on contract and it breaks the ToS to do this.
That's it! Don't pay a Chinese website to do what you can do for free WITH YOUR LEGALLY OWNED DEVICE. I cannot stress enough how this WILL void, contract, warranties, etc... even any insurance you buy on the device. Water insurance is voided by doing this. If you are on contract they will deny you access if you still owe money on the device. It needs a clean IEMI for this to work!
Any mod wanna sticky this? Any mod want to fix the link please, this is not spam in any way.
Hi
I will have your thread moved to your device section. And threads must mature before being considered for a sticky.
Good luck!
Is this for real? This is how i unlocked my moto x back when it first came out didnt know this was an option...
Pls put the direct link pls
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aneeshmbabu said:
Pls put the direct link pls
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Is the Verizon portion automated? This could be great news for a lot of people. Me, not so much since I upgraded to the Maxx back in Sept of this year. Lol
Proof that this worked?
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I think this only works on developer edition phone but I could be wrong as I have not tried yet.
Verizon does not unlock non Dev phones period. If they did everyone would be doing it. If you could buy a standard maxx and unlock what would be the point of a Dev edition.
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bigv5150 said:
Verizon does not unlock non Dev phones period. If they did everyone would be doing it. If you could buy a standard maxx and unlock what would be the point of a Dev edition.
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True, the thing that threw me off is that his procedure includes calling Verizon which is unnecessary with the DE and the fact he says it only works with a phone that is not on contract. So he is implying that Verizon is willing to let the phone be unlocked under that condition which I also seriously doubt because Verizon doesn't want unlocked phones on their network period, if they can have it their way. I screwed up and now I'm using a Moto X DE as the daily driver and the Maxx as a backup. I almost want to buy a motherboard with 4.4 on it so I can unlock it but the seller on eBay knows this is doubled the price. Bastard.
Did somebody here buy that motherboard? Damnit!! I was waiting for the guy to lower the price. Lol. Oh well, I'm using the Maxx today and it is not bad. All I'm missing is WiFi tether but my iPad is the 4G version so I can just pull the Sim out of this phone and stick it in there and use all the data I want. Also found out that Verizon doesn't block the tethering capability of the iPad so I can setup a WiFi hotspot easily for the laptop without having to jailbreak, even though my iPad is jail broken... Currently blocking ads using Adguard which doesn't require root. All is good!
So, what exactly do you ask Verizon for? They can't supply the unlock code, that's from the Motorola site.
This guy started this thread 5 days ago and hasn't been back since to answer any ? I hate that don't start a thread with a ludicrous claim then abandon it. That's bull**** why start it at all.
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This guy started this thread 5 days ago and hasn't been back since to answer any ? I hate that don't start a thread with a ludicrous claim then abandon it. That's bull**** why start it at all.
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Thank you @bigv5150 , I totally agree with you and sure quite a few others do. There are a lot of people that depend on XDA for the newest info and break through. Yes some things don't end up being the "Holy Grail" or even usable solution, however there bits of that information end up inspiring some one to find that solution.
But this thread was like a 5 year old getting a huge beautifully wrapped box under the tree only to find out it was just a wrapped empty box, a gag gift. How cruel!
Agreed. This why I love XDA! Always looking for that next update is addicting, lol!
I agree the op is most likely a true troll & post is nonsense as well (but).
Has anyone tried out the OPs suggestion with Vzw?
My phone is still in the Edge plan.
My 4.4.4 Maxx is off contract, and I went through step one but of course being a non-dev version my "device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking".
But I'm with everyone else...what exactly do I ask Verizon tech support to do? How does one even hope to accurately dictate a 131 character code? Seems farfetched to think that Verizon has access to modify the Motorola databases...
Probably an idiot for going this far, don't want to look like a bigger idiot by calling Verizon. But damn, I'd love to unlock and root this thing.
I called to check with Verizon(Why not?), and according to level 2 tech support, they will not assist in bootloader unlocking or anything related to rooting. This is true even though my phone is entirely off contract(no edge either). So while there is a chance that asking the right way might have them help you, I highly doubt it. I got some sort of lecture about the fact that they are a reseller of phones, and that this would somehow kill their deals with phone manufacturers.
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I called to check with Verizon(Why not?), and according to level 2 tech support, they will not assist in bootloader unlocking or anything related to rooting. This is true even though my phone is entirely off contract(no edge either). So while there is a chance that asking the right way might have them help you, I highly doubt it. I got some sort of lecture about the fact that they are a reseller of phones, and that this would somehow kill their deals with phone manufacturers.
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That's funny because they are the ones forcing the manufacturers to lock the bootloader.
The truth is, that they make money from bloatware developers, and do not want to allow the ability to uninstall those apps. If they did, it would devalue the cost they charge for bloatware.
I'm just feeling disappointed as HTC does not treat customers with respect and it's not offering what every other phone makers would offer - a type c to 3.5mm converter and an accurate release date, which are both costless but important to customers.
I've been a fan of HTC since I got my HD2 many years ago, but this year I'm kind of disappointed with their attitude to its fans.
I am in Canada and is like the US , I still waiting mine.
Actually, I didn't want to react to it at all. But from what you've said, I have to write it ironically. You already had $100 discount codes, we Europeans didn't even have anything like an HTC Club. You already received promotional gifts when we didn't even know there was such a thing from HTC. You didn't open your mouths back then and said all fans should get the same options/discounts, so don't complain now that things are going the other way around. Honestly: everything balances out in life, and now we have just drawn the lucky one.
In general I say here in all frankness, just leave this America first attitude at home, and think sensibly for once. It is fair that we finally enjoy the benefits that you have enjoyed for years. This year it's just Europe first. Maybe there will come a time when it will again be the other way around.
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Seriously this is pretty melodramatic because you had to wait a few extra days to get a phone.. HTC never made any promises about the release date to any country. Some regions of Europe got it early, lucky them. HTC doesn't owe you ****.
Knowing HTC phones and US carriers I can almost guarantee that HTC is taking every second it can before shipping to the US to ensure full compatibility with Verizon, T-Mo, and AT&T. There have been issues with the past couple of HTC phones so it makes sense they are trying to get it right.
I am eagerly awaiting my day one pre-order too, but it will get here when it gets here. HTC isn't treating you unfairly or discriminating against you.
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Actually, I didn't want to react to it at all. But from what you've said, I have to write it ironically. You already had $100 discount codes, we Europeans didn't even have anything like an HTC Club. You already received promotional gifts when we didn't even know there was such a thing from HTC. You didn't open your mouths back then and said all fans should get the same options/discounts, so don't complain now that things are going the other way around. Honestly: everything balances out in life, and now we have just drawn the lucky one.
In general I say here in all frankness, just leave this America first attitude at home, and think sensibly for once. It is fair that we finally enjoy the benefits that you have enjoyed for years. This year it's just Europe first. Maybe there will come a time when it will again be the other way around.
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Hi, I think you mistook what I said. The $100s coupons and gifts are what European customers get, not American or other regions' users. There's no HTC Club in the U.S but Europe.
I didn't mean US should get everything first. Actually I'm not American. I live and work in the US at the moment though. And I don't think I have the US first attitude.
The reason why I thought the phone would be released in the U.S first is that HTC held MeetU events in the U.S. first. I went to the one in SF and had an opportunity of getting hands on the phone, and at that time when I placed my order it said June 7th would be the release date.
I'm just feeling disappointed as HTC does not treat customers with respect and it's not offering what every other phone makers would offer - the converter and an accurate release date.
Amazon.com has had a solid release date this whole time. Originally, it was June 7 when HTC said the U12+ would ship in June. Now, Amazon says June 21 when HTC now says will ship in July. As for your other questions, HTC barely has a presence in the US anymore. When Samsung took over the market share, HTC stopped being carried in US stores (besides Sprint for the U11... and 10? I forget). I personally just don't think the US is a major priority for HTC anymore. Without being in stores, it's really difficult to move units... And maybe they stopped trying to get into US stores because it was costing more than the profit they were actually making before? The same thing happened with Blackberry. They've been struggling (as we all know) and haven't been in all US carriers either.
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Amazon.com has had a solid release date this whole time. Originally, it was June 7 when HTC said the U12+ would ship in June. Now, Amazon says June 21 when HTC now says will ship in July. As for your other questions, HTC barely has a presence in the US anymore. When Samsung took over the market share, HTC stopped being carried in US stores (besides Sprint for the U11... and 10? I forget). I personally just don't think the US is a major priority for HTC anymore. Without being in stores, it's really difficult to move units... And maybe they stopped trying to get into US stores because it was costing more than the profit they were actually making before? The same thing happened with Blackberry. They've been struggling (as we all know) and haven't been in all US carriers either.
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the only reason they arnt a main flagship carrier in the US is because of bad/lack of advertising while samsung constanly has consistent S series phone line while HTC has been all over the place with naming of phones and Samsung runs ads on television and youtube constanly, HTC just needs better marketing out in the US market, also my few cents here but can all the EU/Germany people cool down when someone from US posts they have a right in their own country to speak freely no matter how you may view their thoughts, so plz be respectful, all the original poster was saying how he feels that germany and all the EU markets are getting the phones first when the US market still hasnt gotten theirs still and even im kinda sad about that as well, it has nothing to do with entilement it has to do with a sense of fairness
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Amazon.com has had a solid release date this whole time. Originally, it was June 7 when HTC said the U12+ would ship in June. Now, Amazon says June 21 when HTC now says will ship in July. As for your other questions, HTC barely has a presence in the US anymore. When Samsung took over the market share, HTC stopped being carried in US stores (besides Sprint for the U11... and 10? I forget). I personally just don't think the US is a major priority for HTC anymore. Without being in stores, it's really difficult to move units... And maybe they stopped trying to get into US stores because it was costing more than the profit they were actually making before? The same thing happened with Blackberry. They've been struggling (as we all know) and haven't been in all US carriers either.
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Amazon still says June 21 for ship date - I just checked- at least in the US
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USA is one of the regions where HTC U12+ was earliest announced and the SF and NYC MeetU events were the first two chances where fans had the opportunity of getting hands on the new phone. I thought HTC would treat US customers seriously, but by now it has done everything to make us unhappy instead.
1. European fans have been receiving their phones since last week or earlier, but in the US there's not even an accurate date.
2. European HTC Club members enjoy a fairly good discount, while US TeamHTC members get nothing at all.
3. European HTC Club members get a types-c to 3.5mm converter for free, but US customers will have to buy one by their own...
I really can't understand HTC's marketing strategy. At least it should treat all customers equally, right?
I've been a fan of HTC since I got my HD2 many years ago, but this year I'm kind of disappointed with their attitude to its fans.
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Before I cancelled my preorder, I was to pay £629 with the HTC club discount. With a quick search online, $799.99 is £608. So that pays for the free dongle we get.
As for customer support, my bank card was cloned, and HTC have been just about useless helping me change it to my new card, so I won't get my preorder at all, so I cancelled it. At least I emailed them to cancel it and they haven't replied.
I agree customers should be treated equally where possible, but unfortunately HTC are almost sunk and doesn't seem they have the means to do so anymore.
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Hi, I think you mistook what I said. The $100s coupons and gifts are what European customers get, not American or other regions' users. There's no HTC Club in the U.S but Europe.
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There seems to be a missunderstanding between the two of you. The HTC Club discount for the U12+ is the first discount many countries have ever gotten in Europe. The US, on the other hand, got several discounts and gifts*, in the past. That's what @5m4r7ph0n36uru is referring to.
* these are only the first three examples I could find via google
this shouldn't be any surprise, HTC is pulling out of the US market...no longer carried by any of the carriers & not even supported on Sprint. HTC canned most of their US employees.
Enjoy a new HTC product in the US while you can, the end is near!
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this shouldn't be any surprise, HTC is pulling out of the US market...no longer carried by any of the carriers & not even supported on Sprint. HTC canned most of their US employees.
Enjoy a new HTC product in the US while you can, the end is near!
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I think the network situation is gonna get better with tmobile/sprint merger as everyone has moved to GSM from CDMA and sprint is the last remaining CDMA carrier so i only expect things to get better after its finalized as i used to be on sprint and am happy with tmobile, i didnt make the move right away tho i tried at&t/criket wireless and it sucked and turned out to be more expensive when u want data, where tmobile im part of a company plan and get "unlimited" data where i only got slowed down if i needed to tether from an isp internet outage and was downloading games from steam but when i was it was usable after that still and phone call coverage wise its more usable than when i was on sprints, also are you gonna be making a debloated rom OMJ for this phone really liked the bad boyz rom for when i had the M7 when i had sprint?
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I think the network situation is gonna get better with tmobile/sprint merger as everyone has moved to GSM from CDMA and sprint is the last remaining CDMA carrier so i only expect things to get better after its finalized as i used to be on sprint and am happy with tmobile, i didnt make the move right away tho i tried at&t/criket wireless and it sucked and turned out to be more expensive when u want data, where tmobile im part of a company plan and get "unlimited" data where i only got slowed down if i needed to tether from an isp internet outage and was downloading games from steam but when i was it was usable after that still and phone call coverage wise its more usable than when i was on sprints, also are you gonna be making a debloated rom OMJ for this phone really liked the bad boyz rom for when i had the M7 when i had sprint?
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Sorry, no. I have no plans at the moment to buy the u12
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There seems to be a missunderstanding between the two of you. The HTC Club discount for the U12+ is the first discount many countries have ever gotten in Europe. The US, on the other hand, got severaldiscountsand gifts*, in the past. That's what @5m4r7ph0n36uru is referring to.
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Thanks @Flippy498 for clearing that one up. It's exactly what I wanted to state. Didn't want to attack anyone personally, or things like that. Just help clearing up what has been the case for years and is seemingly changing currently.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Thanks @Flinny498 for clearing that one up. It's exactly what I wanted to state. Didn't want to attack anyone personally, or things like that. Just help clearing up what has been the case for years and is seemingly changing currently.
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I don't think you meant Flinny.... I don't have a u12+ and currently am not planning on getting one. Not that I don't like the look of it but 24 month contracts...... and I have no REAL need for a new phone yet, at least enough to warrant buying one outright
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I don't think you meant Flinny.... I don't have a u12+ and currently am not planning on getting one. Not that I don't like the look of it but 24 month contracts...... and I have no REAL need for a new phone yet, at least enough to warrant buying one outright
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Yeah sorry my T9 swapped Flippy with your name somehow.
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Well shipping is a joke. People ordered from Amazon is getting on hold or out of stock.
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Well shipping is a joke. People ordered from Amazon is getting on hold or out of stock.
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The problem is no one at Amazon knows where the June 21 date came from. It's never been in stock to begin with!
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The problem is no one at Amazon knows where the June 21 date came from. It's never been in stock to begin with!
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They did received first shipment, but not enough. At least what they told me. Lol.
If they don't ship next week. I'll cancel and move to something else.
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They did received first shipment, but not enough. At least what they told me. Lol.
If they don't ship next week. I'll cancel and move to something else.
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Well, every person I spoke to there said they never had it in stock. In any event, all we can do is wait.