Ok, as of 4.4.x The device was unlock-able unless you pay some money to a Chinese website.
WARNING: You must legally own the device off contract for this to work!
Here are a few steps to try
1) https COLON SLASH SLASH motorola-global-portal DOT custhelp DOT com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Go through the sign in process, and follow the instructions it is very straight forward. IF This does not work, which it did not for me, move onto step 2.
2) Call Verizon Wireless 1 (800) 922-0204. Provide them with your IEMI AND OEM Boot Unlock Code, found by following steps in step 1. The process of unlocking the device from VZW contract status can take up to 48 hours. Once done, go to the step 1 and go through the process of getting your unlock code.
They lock the devices because people who usually purchase these phones get them on contract and it breaks the ToS to do this.
That's it! Don't pay a Chinese website to do what you can do for free WITH YOUR LEGALLY OWNED DEVICE. I cannot stress enough how this WILL void, contract, warranties, etc... even any insurance you buy on the device. Water insurance is voided by doing this. If you are on contract they will deny you access if you still owe money on the device. It needs a clean IEMI for this to work!
Any mod wanna sticky this? Any mod want to fix the link please, this is not spam in any way.
Hi
I will have your thread moved to your device section. And threads must mature before being considered for a sticky.
Good luck!
Is this for real? This is how i unlocked my moto x back when it first came out didnt know this was an option...
Pls put the direct link pls
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Pls put the direct link pls
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Is the Verizon portion automated? This could be great news for a lot of people. Me, not so much since I upgraded to the Maxx back in Sept of this year. Lol
Proof that this worked?
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I think this only works on developer edition phone but I could be wrong as I have not tried yet.
Verizon does not unlock non Dev phones period. If they did everyone would be doing it. If you could buy a standard maxx and unlock what would be the point of a Dev edition.
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Verizon does not unlock non Dev phones period. If they did everyone would be doing it. If you could buy a standard maxx and unlock what would be the point of a Dev edition.
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True, the thing that threw me off is that his procedure includes calling Verizon which is unnecessary with the DE and the fact he says it only works with a phone that is not on contract. So he is implying that Verizon is willing to let the phone be unlocked under that condition which I also seriously doubt because Verizon doesn't want unlocked phones on their network period, if they can have it their way. I screwed up and now I'm using a Moto X DE as the daily driver and the Maxx as a backup. I almost want to buy a motherboard with 4.4 on it so I can unlock it but the seller on eBay knows this is doubled the price. Bastard.
Did somebody here buy that motherboard? Damnit!! I was waiting for the guy to lower the price. Lol. Oh well, I'm using the Maxx today and it is not bad. All I'm missing is WiFi tether but my iPad is the 4G version so I can just pull the Sim out of this phone and stick it in there and use all the data I want. Also found out that Verizon doesn't block the tethering capability of the iPad so I can setup a WiFi hotspot easily for the laptop without having to jailbreak, even though my iPad is jail broken... Currently blocking ads using Adguard which doesn't require root. All is good!
So, what exactly do you ask Verizon for? They can't supply the unlock code, that's from the Motorola site.
This guy started this thread 5 days ago and hasn't been back since to answer any ? I hate that don't start a thread with a ludicrous claim then abandon it. That's bull**** why start it at all.
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This guy started this thread 5 days ago and hasn't been back since to answer any ? I hate that don't start a thread with a ludicrous claim then abandon it. That's bull**** why start it at all.
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Thank you @bigv5150 , I totally agree with you and sure quite a few others do. There are a lot of people that depend on XDA for the newest info and break through. Yes some things don't end up being the "Holy Grail" or even usable solution, however there bits of that information end up inspiring some one to find that solution.
But this thread was like a 5 year old getting a huge beautifully wrapped box under the tree only to find out it was just a wrapped empty box, a gag gift. How cruel!
Agreed. This why I love XDA! Always looking for that next update is addicting, lol!
I agree the op is most likely a true troll & post is nonsense as well (but).
Has anyone tried out the OPs suggestion with Vzw?
My phone is still in the Edge plan.
My 4.4.4 Maxx is off contract, and I went through step one but of course being a non-dev version my "device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking".
But I'm with everyone else...what exactly do I ask Verizon tech support to do? How does one even hope to accurately dictate a 131 character code? Seems farfetched to think that Verizon has access to modify the Motorola databases...
Probably an idiot for going this far, don't want to look like a bigger idiot by calling Verizon. But damn, I'd love to unlock and root this thing.
I called to check with Verizon(Why not?), and according to level 2 tech support, they will not assist in bootloader unlocking or anything related to rooting. This is true even though my phone is entirely off contract(no edge either). So while there is a chance that asking the right way might have them help you, I highly doubt it. I got some sort of lecture about the fact that they are a reseller of phones, and that this would somehow kill their deals with phone manufacturers.
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I called to check with Verizon(Why not?), and according to level 2 tech support, they will not assist in bootloader unlocking or anything related to rooting. This is true even though my phone is entirely off contract(no edge either). So while there is a chance that asking the right way might have them help you, I highly doubt it. I got some sort of lecture about the fact that they are a reseller of phones, and that this would somehow kill their deals with phone manufacturers.
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That's funny because they are the ones forcing the manufacturers to lock the bootloader.
The truth is, that they make money from bloatware developers, and do not want to allow the ability to uninstall those apps. If they did, it would devalue the cost they charge for bloatware.
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Today I wrote a complaint to AT&T for interfering with HTC's bootloader unlock and I received this response:
Dear Christopher,
Thank you for contacting AT&T about your wireless service. My name is
Daniel D., and I will be more than happy to assist you with your inquiry
regarding software updates/OS information today.
I apologize for any frustrations that this may have caused you. After
some research, I am happy to inform you that AT&T doesn't interfere with
the software updates that the phone manufacturers provide. The only
stipulation that AT&T would have would be to ensure that the OS would be
optimized for AT&T's network. Please be aware that AT&T doesn't make
software for phones and we would never prevent our customers from
getting a better software update or OS.
We are sorry to hear that you are considering canceling for something
that is out of our control. In this case we recommend that you speak to
the manufacturer of the device. HTC can be reached at 866-449-8358.
If you have any additional questions about this issue, please respond to
this e-mail. If you have a question about another issue, please send us
a new e-mail via the Contact Us link in the lower left-hand corner of
your myAT&T account. Thank you for choosing AT&T; we appreciate your
business.
Daniel D.
eCare Customer Service Specialist
AT&T Business Solutions Customer Care
Business Care: 611 or 1-800-331-0500
Online account management: att.com/myatt
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The CSR seems to be indicating that AT&T isn't meddling and that the decision is HTC's. It's vague, non-commital customer service speak and almost certainly not true. . . . He also refers to the bootloader unlock as a software update from the manufacturer, so perhaps he just has no idea what I'm talking about.
I've written back asking for clarification on AT&T's official policy.
I suggest anyone who is unhappy with AT&T's behavior write to customer service and let them know.
It can't hurt to formally let them know that you're not pleased. Even if you're hooked into a contract at the moment, they really do care if you're less willing to renew next time around.
czucker said:
Today I wrote a complaint to AT&T for interfering with HTC's bootloader unlock and I received this response:
The CSR seems to be indicating that AT&T isn't meddling and that the decision is HTC's. It's vague, non-commital customer service speak and almost certainly not true. . .
I've written back asking for clarification on AT&T's official policy.
I suggest anyone who is unhappy with AT&T's behavior write to customer service and let them know.
It can't hurt to formally let them know that you're not pleased. Even if you're hooked into a contract at the moment, they really do care if you're less willing to renew next time around.
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taht's a standard AT&T kiss off letter. They're saying they don't do anything to prevent HTC from sending updates to phones. Not That they aren't preventing the bootloader from being unlocked.
Big Bro does it again
Standard BS reply from the big bro... u know urself nothing in that letter is what they say it to be...
I sort of figured as much and edited my original post to reflect that. . .
It may not help, but I still reckon it doesn't hurt to write a letter or two.
To ensure a safe and consistent experience for our wireless customers, AT&T does not support unlocked bootloaders. I understand that this will not satisfy your complaint, but this is AT&T’s official response to your complaint and I’ve submitted this information as our response to the BBB.
Please contact me with any further questions or concerns.
Regards,
Keith Morrisette
Customer Appeals Manager, Executive Response
AT&T Business Solutions
Office: 952 703-2344
Wireless: 952 847-3709
Fax: 952 703-2307
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this is what i got from my bbb complaint.
porkaysi said:
To ensure a safe and consistent experience for our wireless customers, AT&T does not support unlocked bootloaders. I understand that this will not satisfy your complaint, but this is AT&T’s official response to your complaint and I’ve submitted this information as our response to the BBB.
Please contact me with any further questions or concerns.
Regards,
Keith Morrisette
Customer Appeals Manager, Executive Response
AT&T Business Solutions
Office: 952 703-2344
Wireless: 952 847-3709
Fax: 952 703-2307
This message, including any attachments, is the property of and may contain confidential information of AT&T. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender of the error and delete this message and any attachments.
this is what i got from my bbb complaint.
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Me too almost to the letter.
I'll write in as well
porkaysi said:
To ensure a safe and consistent experience for our wireless customers, AT&T does not support unlocked bootloaders. I understand that this will not satisfy your complaint, but this is AT&T’s official response to your complaint and I’ve submitted this information as our response to the BBB.
Please contact me with any further questions or concerns.
Regards,
Keith Morrisette
Customer Appeals Manager, Executive Response
AT&T Business Solutions
Office: 952 703-2344
Wireless: 952 847-3709
Fax: 952 703-2307
This message, including any attachments, is the property of and may contain confidential information of AT&T. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender of the error and delete this message and any attachments.
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SAFE? Gimme a break... Whatever AT&T keep the bootloaders locked! We will brick countless devices over and over until we find our exploit and you can foot the bill. Or you can let us unlock through HTCdev like the rest of the world and save yourself the time/money.
Oh no wait, that would be the smart thing to do, and you are all Morons.
Att reps have no idea what they're doing. This is a good example.
They basically said the exact same thing about the vivid when it was released. I didn't buy it then and don't know.
But thanks to the heat devs here we are able to unlock it anyway.
They can't stop the brilliant minds at work here.
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Dear Christopher,
Thank you for contacting AT&T about your wireless service. My name is
Daniel D., and I will be more than happy to assist you with your inquiry
regarding software updates/OS information today.
I apologize for any frustrations that this may have caused you. After
some research, I am happy to inform you that AT&T doesn't interfere with
the software updates that the phone manufacturers provide. The only
stipulation that AT&T would have would be to ensure that the OS would be
optimized for AT&T's network. Please be aware that AT&T doesn't make
software for phones and we would never prevent our customers from
getting a better software update or OS.
We are sorry to hear that you are considering canceling for something
that is out of our control. In this case we recommend that you speak to
the manufacturer of the device. HTC can be reached at 866-449-8358.
If you have any additional questions about this issue, please respond to
this e-mail. If you have a question about another issue, please send us
a new e-mail via the Contact Us link in the lower left-hand corner of
your myAT&T account. Thank you for choosing AT&T; we appreciate your
business.
Daniel D.
eCare Customer Service Specialist
AT&T Business Solutions Customer Care
Business Care: 611 or 1-800-331-0500
Online account management: att.com/myatt
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There was something wrong with this letter, but I fixed it.
The guy has no idea. He doesn't even know what BL Unlock is. And he doesn't realize that AT&T DOES in fact prevent a lot of customers from using different software.
All of this is happen before and all will happen again.
I purchased the vivid right when it came out and we when thru hell to get any development going. Letters were sent to AT&T and HTC and they just laughed in our faces.
We called Mr.Chou a lair openly in the Twitter and facebook pages and to this day, they still claim he was not lying about not locking the bootloaders.
They eventually allowed the unlocking of the bootloader and then we got s-off. It was about 3 moths after release.
By contrast, note the HOX had some holes we have now xploided the the vivid did not have. So I think we have an advantage.
This is XDA some things may be difficult but definitely not impossible.
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Went through this with the Evo 3D as well..HTC wouldn't unlock the bootloader and a month later we had S-Off and not to far after the HTC Unlock tool came about. I still have hope for this device
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carlosjcar said:
All of this is happen before and all will happen again.
I purchased the vivid right when it came out and we when thru hell to get any development going. Letters were sent to AT&T and HTC and they just laughed in our faces.
We called Mr.Chou a lair openly in the Twitter and facebook pages and to this day, they still claim he was not lying about not locking the bootloaders.
They eventually allowed the unlocking of the bootloader and then we got s-off. It was about 3 moths after release.
By contrast, note the HOX had some holes we have now xploided the the vivid did not have. So I think we have an advantage.
This is XDA some things may be difficult but definitely not impossible.
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I wonder if they really know what a boot loader is and what the difference is between locked or unlocked. Also why would they say they don't lock the boot loader? If I was talking to him on the phone (or better yet, in person), I would tell him "Look, grab your HTC Vivid there. Hold down power and Volume down. It will boot into hboot. What do you see at the top?"
Doubt it would of helped though. And oh well. You know, you've just got to have some bumps in the road. We all need to have conversations with head guys over at AT&T every now and then. Laughter is good medicine. And you know what, if they are not cooperative... give them a link to the GFY page (some forums have a GFY button but this does not, defuq is up with that???), and do it yourself.
I do agree, difficult but not impossible. XDA Devs are awesome!
I wonder why this bootlader still isnt officialy unlockable? My new ATT OneX+ with cid CWS_001 is unlockable at HTC dev. I wasnt sure if you guys were aware of that. The plot thickens . Makes no sense to me.. Everyone sell your hox and get a hox+ lol. Bring Rom devs with you!
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I wonder why this bootlader still isnt officialy unlockable? My new ATT OneX+ with cid CWS_001 is unlockable at HTC dev. I wasnt sure if you guys were aware of that. The plot thickens . Makes no sense to me.. Everyone sell your hox and get a hox+ lol. Bring Rom devs with you!
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It is quite odd, but I'll wait until they release a Qualcomm quad core phone.
I've also read that the hox+ has a sub par screen compared to ours
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superchilpil said:
It is quite odd, but I'll wait until they release a Qualcomm quad core phone.
I've also read that the hox+ has a sub par screen compared to ours
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I haven't noticed any difference in the screen. JB is smooth, Gaming is awesome if you do that. The Hox+ stock feels as smooth as my tweaked Oc'd hox with custom roms. And i'm loving the 64gb! No regrets at all. Wish there was more development... but that'll come. I can test the screens side by side Monday. Left the hox at work. And yes it is ODD that the bootloader is unlockable at launch.
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I haven't noticed any difference in the screen. JB is smooth, Gaming is awesome if you do that. The Hox+ stock feels as smooth as my tweaked Oc'd hox with custom roms. And i'm loving the 64gb! No regrets at all. Wish there was more development... but that'll come. I can test the screens side by side Monday. Left the hox at work. And yes it is ODD that the bootloader is unlockable at launch.
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I'd love 64gb on the one x, never understood why they did that to this phone.
I guess they figure we are going to find out how unlock regardless so might as well give us what they promised in the first place
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HTC DNA for Verizon was supported on htcdev up until launch day. Then it got pulled so its not unlockable(out of box). So at this point I'm fairly confused as to which phones are not unlockable and why......... Doesn't really matter why, but its not knowing that makes it so interesting
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18th.abn said:
HTC DNA for Verizon was supported on htcdev up until launch day. Then it got pulled so its not unlockable(out of box). So at this point I'm fairly confused as to which phones are not unlockable and why......... Doesn't really matter why, but its not knowing that makes it so interesting
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I swear I saw that coming...they were all happy and all fair witha all the HTC elevate members and whoever got the phone before hand and let the bl process be there till the night before...that makes me wonder why!!! Why do they Care so much..Verizon made some really questionable decisions with that device sucks as 16 gb no menu remap(come on?) No sd slot(really?) ....i wish HTC weren't in such a slump right now...they make the best phones in my opinions but when they come to the see US the carriers have them by their balls
The Evita has been available for nearly 3 months now. Is AT&T going to allow sanctioned bootloader unlocking? Was there any indication that after a period of time, the phone would be unlock able via HTC Dev? I'm considering selling my One X and never buying an At&T subsidized phone again, You are trying to come across as development friendly, but alas your flagship device sold in the United States is not unlock able.
Please advise without a canned response about carrier restrictions. I know all about that answer, I'd like a straight yes or no on this question please.
Lets see what I get in response
knowing the good folks at HTC you'll get the carrier crap...
heres to hoping tho
here's an idea, which is always fun. play the carrier against the manufacturer.
when they say its the carrier, go to the carrier and ask them, when each other blames it on each other, show them that's what going on. they hate.
Back when the phone launched I,along with a few other people filed complaints against AT&T with the BBB they went nowhere.
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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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Oh I did
I can per persistent as hell.
I just hate the thought of this awesome phone's dev community getting screwed without the benefit of even a reach around.
I'm in a very pissy mood today.
They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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I will say thanks for taking the plunge first ....I know I'm better off because of it ....
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mounttimp said:
They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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The a$$holes quit responding to me as well... I feel you gunny. I'm a lil worried about all this WP added everywhere .. they are sealing all our holes..
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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That is the truth. It's AT&T's fault. Start emailing them.
When I first got my phone and they gave me the generic customer satisfaction text I left negative feedback. If you leave below a certain score they will ask you why you wouldn't recommend the phone. I mentioned the bootloader and bloatware, as well as lack of Wallet support.
Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.
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Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.
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There may be more of us than you think. AT&T is about to give up on the added tethering plans for certain users. The new shared data family plans include tethering. You just pick your data cap and go.
Even though I've got grandfathered unlimited data, I may go for this when it's available. Adding up data totals for the three smartphones I'm paying for, we'll still save some money and get "free" tethering.
I feel the exact same way Gunny. My Nexus One was my first smart phone, and obviously, my first HTC. I had such a good experience, I went straight back to HTC for my next phone (this one) but it's clear now that the Nexus One was an anomaly in HTC's history. I'm thinking its going to be Nexus or Samsung devices only for me from now on. Not sure how much longer I can hold out with this device. If the damn camera wasn't so awesome I would have sold it months ago. =(
Billy
HTC can't do anything, it's not their fault. You should be contacting AT&T, not HTC.
im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?
blessedswine said:
im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?
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I have no idea. Either way it does affect yor warranty, so I'm not sure why others dont use the CID mod to unlock.
We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update
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We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update
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The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.
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The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.
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Exactly
Iam so sick of samsung and/or carriers locking our phones down. I was going to buy a GN3, and now think I might just keep my POS rooted but NO RECOVERY !!!! ATT GS4. If its this bad with the gs4 imagine how difficult the GN3 is going to be. Had to vent.
joewspot said:
Iam so sick of samsung and/or carriers locking our phones down. I was going to buy a GN3, and now think I might just keep my POS rooted but NO RECOVERY !!!! ATT GS4. If its this bad with the gs4 imagine how difficult the GN3 is going to be. Had to vent.
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You could always try to grab a T-Mobile or Sprint variant since they will most likely be unlocked, but yea sad to say as much as I want a Note 3 now, it's going to be locked and locked down hard :/
I've been thinking about just give n the difference I should have paid for my phone to the bounty for bootloader unlock. I paid 200$ so I was thinking of put n 300$ in on the bounty .maybe if everybody did this it might help.
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As the world turns.
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joewspot said:
Iam so sick of samsung and/or carriers locking our phones down. I was going to buy a GN3, and now think I might just keep my POS rooted but NO RECOVERY !!!! ATT GS4. If its this bad with the gs4 imagine how difficult the GN3 is going to be. Had to vent.
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What I did was buy a Sim unlocked device from a carrier who's boot loader can be broken and just transfer it to your personal carrier
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This is why Google releases Nexus devices. Technically most carrier devices aren't even meant for development unless noted. Development phones are provided with unlocked or unlockable bootloaders. They are under absolutely no obligation to provide you such feature with a non-development device. Quit your whining child.
Here is a possible solution...chat with an att rep, tell them that ur going abroad and need it unlocked..they will most likely provide it for you..unlock it and sell it to get about 500$ ish.. Buy a i9500 or something online like eBay and be set..
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chaosclarity said:
This is why Google releases Nexus devices. Technically most carrier devices aren't even meant for development unless noted. Development phones are provided with unlocked or unlockable bootloaders. They are under absolutely no obligation to provide you such feature with a non-development device. Quit your whining child.
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If someone pays $500-$600 for a phone, they should be able to do with it as they wish. AT&T should just warn the buyer that bricked phones will not be warrantied and leave the bootloader as it was. But they chose to push an OTA update, with a locked bootloader, to our phones. That was a real B***h move on their part.
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If someone pays $500-$600 for a phone, they should be able to do with it as they wish. AT&T should just warn the buyer that bricked phones will not be warrantied and leave the bootloader as it was. But they chose to push an OTA update, with a locked bootloader, to our phones. That was a real B***h move on their part.
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No one said he couldn't unlock the bootloader - everything is crack-able. Just because it's locked doesn't mean he can't unlock it, in theory. He just needs the brains to do so.
That's like buying a new car and saying, "uggh wtf! The turbo should be running 30psi, not 10!!"... you pay some money to a tuner, and bam.. it's faster now. Same goes with a locked phone - there are devs out there that can do this - I'm sure for the right price they'll put in the work and unlock it.
Effing people expect life to be served on a silver platter to them and on top it, to be free. Grow up!
Oh look, another one of these threads...
Here is the reason why they do this.
They want government contracts. The government 'DoD' specifically is choosing Android over iOS because iOS more closed down than Android even with locked bootloaders. They have to show really good security. Making something this hard to break shows that security.
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This is why Google releases Nexus devices. Technically most carrier devices aren't even meant for development unless noted. Development phones are provided with unlocked or unlockable bootloaders. They are under absolutely no obligation to provide you such feature with a non-development device. Quit your whining child.
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Well someone here doesn't understand what the Open Handset Alliance / Android was all about and feels like they are holier than thou
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Well someone here doesn't understand what the Open Handset Alliance / Android was all about and feels like they are holier than thou
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Ok, whatever. I don't care.
I guess you havent done your research before opening your ignorant mouth.....some of the best developers have spent countless hours on this bootloader and have stated that without a leak or Samsung tool, its not going to happen. So, I guess it would be like buying a car and without the permission from the auto maker, you couldnt do anything to that car.....idiot!
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I guess you havent done your research before opening your ignorant mouth.....some of the best developers have spent countless hours on this bootloader and have stated that without a leak or Samsung tool, its not going to happen. So, I guess it would be like buying a car and without the permission from the auto maker, you couldnt do anything to that car.....idiot!
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Please refrain from name calling.
Now, AT&T owns the bootloaders. They are not open source. They make Google implement them on our devices because they are Google's client/customer. Google has to abide by what their clients want or they will lose that client. Since the bootloaders are not open source, AT&T is not obligated by any means be it themselves or through Google to unlock or provide a way to unlock the bootloaders. Furthermore, AT&T can afford to lose the few customers that care about bootloaders being unlocked or unlockable because what they lose in public customer revenue, they will more than make up for in private government contracts. They know this and have compensated for it.
Should they handle it differently? Yes. But they will not lose much of anything if they keep it as is.
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The developers on XDA arena amazing and almost always find a solution. I wouldn't worry about having it customizable. I'm thinking of a note 3 myself but the convenience of recording is too good to give up for now. I love not having to write things down and at the press of one button be able to get the information
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version S III running kit kat 4,4,2 yuck
I am no phone guru I am more like a phone retard. I did manage to put a different ROM on my wife's S III It was a Straight talk S III. That was very easy.I did not like the phone I had with ST so I bought a S III from a private dealer. it worked great with my contract with Version. I was lied to by the manager of my local version store and the next thing you know I am paying almost $300.00 a month. I gathered up there equipment went to there store and returned it to them. they kept the equipment and then had the nerve to still charge me $900.00 for it and more for the broken contract. I am taking them to court. I will not pay for what they have.
Sorry about the tangent. I have a S III running kitcat 4.4.2. I have spent a month pouring over web page after webpage. trying every piece of software that any body told me to try either thru Odin or Sim card. nothing works the thing is still locked up tighter then a drum. When I use Odin or the simcard way It always ends in red letters saying failed in odin or if its on the sim card small red letts that say some thing to the effect of invalid signature. at first I thought it was me, then I thought no I am following the directions to the letter. then I thought corrupt software. but that doesn't work either. not every single one can be bag. so all that leaves is Kitcat has my phone locked up tighter then a drum. So what is the fool proof way to be able to put a new rom on this. and please use little word I am phone inapt.
I hope some one can help with easy to understand using small words how to do what I want to do. and if some one knows of a decent rom that looks like swamp things it lives in the swamp, That,s the look I am going for. I am heading out in a few months or a year longest, to Louisianan to gator hunting and maybe some bore hunting
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version S III running kit kat 4,4,2 yuck
I am no phone guru I am more like a phone retard. I did manage to put a different ROM on my wife's S III It was a Straight talk S III. That was very easy.I did not like the phone I had with ST so I bought a S III from a private dealer. it worked great with my contract with Version. I was lied to by the manager of my local version store and the next thing you know I am paying almost $300.00 a month. I gathered up there equipment went to there store and returned it to them. they kept the equipment and then had the nerve to still charge me $900.00 for it and more for the broken contract. I am taking them to court. I will not pay for what they have.
Sorry about the tangent. I have a S III running kitcat 4.4.2. I have spent a month pouring over web page after webpage. trying every piece of software that any body told me to try either thru Odin or Sim card. nothing works the thing is still locked up tighter then a drum. When I use Odin or the simcard way It always ends in red letters saying failed in odin or if its on the sim card small red letts that say some thing to the effect of invalid signature. at first I thought it was me, then I thought no I am following the directions to the letter. then I thought corrupt software. but that doesn't work either. not every single one can be bag. so all that leaves is Kitcat has my phone locked up tighter then a drum. So what is the fool proof way to be able to put a new rom on this. and please use little word I am phone inapt.
I hope some one can help with easy to understand using small words how to do what I want to do. and if some one knows of a decent rom that looks like swamp things it lives in the swamp, That,s the look I am going for. I am heading out in a few months or a year longest, to Louisianan to gator hunting and maybe some bore hunting
Sincerely
Aristoi
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Right now there is only 1 way to unlock your device is through a service for $50. They also unlock SIM, root for additional price etc..
mobiletechvideos.com
buhohitr said:
Right now there is only 1 way to unlock your device is through a service for $50. They also unlock SIM, root for additional price etc..
mobiletechvideos.com
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Wow, does that actually work? Do they use a jtag? Or did the find some type of vulnerability with the phone? Why isn't this popular yet?
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Wow, does that actually work? Do they use a jtag? Or did the find some type of vulnerability with the phone? Why isn't this popular yet?
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Not too many aware of this yet, but already some ppl done successfully They have to remove the chip, reprogram using their proprietary programmer then re solder back.. You could check out the site and ask questions. It's legit!
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Not too many aware of this yet, but already some ppl done successfully They have to remove the chip, reprogram using their proprietary programmer then re solder back.. You could check out the site and ask questions. It's legit!
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Its pretty simple and Basic. its my phone I own it the os is open source in other words free, They cant lock us out of it. I can see in the very near future a law suit. and I do know there is more then one way the jerk that lived here with me before he stole guns and a car and went to jail we got our phones at the same time from the same guy. this guy who lived with me had his phone unlocked completely and a new root installed in a matter of 2 days, so I know it can be don for a whole heck of a lot less then $50.00 he paid nothing and got all the software from the site. He was going to do mine to but he got busted first. The guy I bought the phone from can do it but he is way out west fishing.
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Its pretty simple and Basic. its my phone I own it the os is open source in other words free, They cant lock us out of it. I can see in the very near future a law suit. and I do know there is more then one way the jerk that lived here with me before he stole guns and a car and went to jail we got our phones at the same time from the same guy. this guy who lived with me had his phone unlocked completely and a new root installed in a matter of 2 days, so I know it can be don for a whole heck of a lot less then $50.00 he paid nothing and got all the software from the site. He was going to do mine to but he got busted first. The guy I bought the phone from can do it but he is way out west fishing.
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I'd want to do it myself, but I'm sorta nervous that I might ruin my phone.
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aristoi said:
Its pretty simple and Basic. its my phone I own it the os is open source in other words free, They cant lock us out of it. I can see in the very near future a law suit. and I do know there is more then one way the jerk that lived here with me before he stole guns and a car and went to jail we got our phones at the same time from the same guy. this guy who lived with me had his phone unlocked completely and a new root installed in a matter of 2 days, so I know it can be don for a whole heck of a lot less then $50.00 he paid nothing and got all the software from the site. He was going to do mine to but he got busted first. The guy I bought the phone from can do it but he is way out west fishing.
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You are blowing smoke out of your a....when your guy able to help us to unlock the phone then we talk (with less than $50 service charge). B.S walk...
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You are blowing smoke out of your a....when your guy able to help us to unlock the phone then we talk (with less than $50 service charge). B.S walk...
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what ever believe or not. I come here hat in hand asking for help and get called a lair, Ill go to another site ware they know how to treat people. you sir are an ass you do not know every thing my eyes have seen and I have experienced. when you do then you may call me a lier, Tell me its not possible I just unlocked it using towelroot.apk. I know it wont allow me rom it yet but its a step Mr know every thing.
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what ever believe or not. I come here hat in hand asking for help and get called a lair, Ill go to another site ware they know how to treat people. you sir are an ass you do not know every thing my eyes have seen and I have experienced. when you do then you may call me a lier, Tell me its not possible I just unlocked it using towelroot.apk. I know it wont allow me rom it yet but its a step Mr know every thing.
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Let's keep to the topic. If his post offends you, you may report him or ignore it.
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aristoi said:
what ever believe or not. I come here hat in hand asking for help and get called a lair, Ill go to another site ware they know how to treat people. you sir are an ass you do not know every thing my eyes have seen and I have experienced. when you do then you may call me a lier, Tell me its not possible I just unlocked it using towelroot.apk. I know it wont allow me rom it yet but its a step Mr know every thing.
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The smoke is getting thicker...
Do some research first before stating things you know nothing about. Towelroot doesn't unlock anything.
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aristoi said:
Its pretty simple and Basic. its my phone I own it the os is open source in other words free, They cant lock us out of it. I can see in the very near future a law suit. and I do know there is more then one way the jerk that lived here with me before he stole guns and a car and went to jail we got our phones at the same time from the same guy. this guy who lived with me had his phone unlocked completely and a new root installed in a matter of 2 days, so I know it can be don for a whole heck of a lot less then $50.00 he paid nothing and got all the software from the site. He was going to do mine to but he got busted first. The guy I bought the phone from can do it but he is way out west fishing.
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You're also right, you do own the phone, but nothing in the gpl that Verizon has agreed to involves unlocking your bootloader. Verizon locking their bootloader doesn't violate any law or regulation, and a lawsuit wouldn't even materialize. A lawsuit won't happen.
Again, look this stuff up before spewing things out you know nothing about. People here have tried to help you, and I'm sorry if one person made you angry. It doesn't mean everyone here is unhelpful and doesn't know anything.
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Damn I missed a good one in here, too little too late. Some people just don't get the difference in sim unlock and bootloader unlocked
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Damn I missed a good one in here, too little too late. Some people just don't get the difference in sim unlock and bootloader unlocked
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or root access, but now im just splitting hairs
i stumbled upon this little gem in my search for SIM unlocking my S3. Ive put an AT&T SIM in it and it works, but I just want it to be fully SIM unlocked. I know its kinda a moot point as it works with GSM sims in it, but the "unknown carrier" message on the screen is annoying. I cant seem to find a thread that has directions for SIM unlocking for ROMS after 4.3, more specifically 4.4.2 with the locked bootloader. I saw that yesterday they law to allow SIM unlocking for phones outside of contractual obligation was passed, so I imagine that any "black ops" methods of this that were previously not being discussed on this site are now back on the table. This S3 is not under contract, so can anyone help a brotha out??
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or root access, but now im just splitting hairs
i stumbled upon this little gem in my search for SIM unlocking my S3. Ive put an AT&T SIM in it and it works, but I just want it to be fully SIM unlocked. I know its kinda a moot point as it works with GSM sims in it, but the "unknown carrier" message on the screen is annoying. I cant seem to find a thread that has directions for SIM unlocking for ROMS after 4.3, more specifically 4.4.2 with the locked bootloader. I saw that yesterday they law to allow SIM unlocking for phones outside of contractual obligation was passed, so I imagine that any "black ops" methods of this that were previously not being discussed on this site are now back on the table. This S3 is not under contract, so can anyone help a brotha out??
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If its a SCH-I535 you would have to take it to verizon to sim unlock the phone
Darn... I got it from a friend who upgraded to the S5. He saw my S5 and got a severe case of phone envy lol so the S3 (yep, the sch-i535) is just a toy, but I like my toys to be completely a fully modded. Its a shame that he did the 4.3 update when it came out locking the bootloader im still pretty surprised that there isnt a crack for that yet :/ oh, and will vzw give me any grief about the sim unlock since that law passed yesterday? Tough to answer that last bit, I know
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Darn... I got it from a friend who upgraded to the S5. He saw my S5 and got a severe case of phone envy lol so the S3 (yep, the sch-i535) is just a toy, but I like my toys to be completely a fully modded. Its a shame that he did the 4.3 update when it came out locking the bootloader im still pretty surprised that there isnt a crack for that yet :/ oh, and will vzw give me any grief about the sim unlock since that law passed yesterday? Tough to answer that last bit, I know
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Not sure but they are under obligation to make sure it's sim unlocked. They shouldn't hassle you but you never know
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Well, I called them last night and the tech support dude acted like it wasnt even simlocked to begin with. He kept repeating the phrase "4g devices do not require sim codes" and I kept rephrasing the question and getting the same response. I even went as far as to tell the guy about the *#197328640# diag menu access process and that I had seen it on other galaxy devices but in order to access it, the baseband must be pre 4.3 before the bootloader locked. He just kept restating his stance on it being a global phone. Im not sure if he was just being a richardhead or what, but I guess ill just try a different rep another time... sigh...
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Well, I called them last night and the tech support dude acted like it wasnt even simlocked to begin with. He kept repeating the phrase "4g devices do not require sim codes" and I kept rephrasing the question and getting the same response. I even went as far as to tell the guy about the *#197328640# diag menu access process and that I had seen it on other galaxy devices but in order to access it, the baseband must be pre 4.3 before the bootloader locked. He just kept restating his stance on it being a global phone. Im not sure if he was just being a richardhead or what, but I guess ill just try a different rep another time... sigh...
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If it works on another carrier then what's the big deal? The guy knew nothing about bootloader unlocking because mostly they aren't going to do anything about that.
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Its really not that big of a deal, but it has to be possible. He didnt even acknowledge the existance of a star pound code to get into a service menu. Just seemed weird to me that he was that obstinate about getting this done
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Its really not that big of a deal, but it has to be possible. He didnt even acknowledge the existance of a star pound code to get into a service menu. Just seemed weird to me that he was that obstinate about getting this done
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Typically tier 1 support are a bunch of idiots anyways. Your better off going to a higher tier of support but they may not even know what your talking about
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Rawr!!! LoL well, we'll just have to find out I guess. Ill call them either later tonight or tomorrow. Gotta go see one of my favorite childhood bands perform tonight. The Cult!! Awwww, yeah!!
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This is for any Verizon device, not just the Samsung Galaxy S5. Please spread this to other device forums!
Recently, I came up with an idea of a developer program. What this program would do is allow people to pay a fee to have their bootloaders unlocked, regardless of the device. This would allow people the freedom to modify their device or develop for it without any issues. I did a little research and could not find anything similar to this (besides developer edition devices). So, with this idea in mind, I sent an email to the Executive VP of Verizon. Twenty minutes later, I received a phone call from his office. Long story short (there was a lot of talk about rooting and unlocking), the guy who called me put my idea through to marketing. However, since only about 1% of customers root their devices, there is concern of the interest in this.
What this thread is for is to see how many people would be interested in this program.
What would you be willing to pay to customer service to have your bootloader unlocked?
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$5
$25
$50
$100
Please use only one of those five prices, and no other prices.
You may discuss this in further detail in this thread. However, arguing, trolling, slandering, bickering, and anything else that will clutter this thread and overwork the moderators WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. This thread is not the thread to argue with others over the details since the idea is already in marketing. If you wish to argue or troll, please take it somewhere else. And, as always, please follow the forum rules. Thank you for looking at this thread.
For those who are concerned with the warranty, please read this. Huge thanks to @shootind5nukes for this info.
Just so everyone knows the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act prevents someone from totally VOIDING a warranty. Verizon/Samsung could only deny to warranty something if they can prove something you did cause the issue. Anything that has nothing to do with what you did still has to be under warranty. If you LCD started to lose color or get dead pixels that would still have to be covered because that has nothing to do with bootloaders and flashing ROMS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act
"The federal minimum standards for full warranties are waived if the warrantor can show that the problem associated with a warranted consumer product was caused by damage while in the possession of the consumer, or by unreasonable use, including a failure to provide reasonable and necessary maintenance."
I learned about this when I was going to get my truck lifted. I was told if I did it would VOID my truck's warranty. After looking into it further it didn't actually VOID anything. But for example if I went in to get my suspension fixed because it broke they could argue that the lift kit put stress on the suspension and that's why it failed so they would not have to cover it. But if my motor exploded because it was made out of cheese it would still be under warranty, the entire warranty can never be voided. Only damage caused by what you did. Food for thought guys.
If anyone has anything to add please do.
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Here is the email of the VP I emailed if you want to email him about the developer program. Again, thank you @shootind5nukes for this idea.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/aboutus/leadership/executive/profiles/david-small.html
IF YOU DO EMAIL HIM, BE POLITE AND RESPECTFUL PLEASE.
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What would you be willing to pay to customer service to have your bootloader unlocked?
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$0. I am a firm believer that the devices I purchase should be fully open for customization.
At this point I would be willing to pay a one time fee of $25. It makes sense it would be a charge since the dev edition has to be bought at full price.
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Verizon has alot of customers 1% is alot of people.
Great program, if implemented. Kudos for the idea AND getting a response! I would pay up to a hundred bucks for an official unlock like this, but I have ATT...
25 is fair, but I'd pay up to 50, if it included some insurance for the device. Is also say, that as an ATT customer, a service like this would tempt me to switch to Verizon
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I'm on ATT as well but would pay upto $50. But my question is if they give a way to unlock it, it would be universal thru all phones. So why wouldn't i just tell my friend. If they would do this why wouldn't they just charge an extra $50 on every phone and have every phone unlocked. No more hassle. Why are they so greedy? If it's only 1% that care about there freedom what would they loose? They would make tons more money.....
http://i.imgur.com/0OBoXTC.jpg
I agree w/ @Cat McGowan, devices should be open for development. And therefore would like to pay $0, but a $5 fee isn't too bad...
According to this there are 107.7 million Verizon wireless customers. So if 1.077 Million people (1%) root there devices on Verizon Wireless and are willing to pay $5 for a bootloader unlock, If everybody pays $5 to unlock there device Verizon would make 5.385 Million Dollars
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I voted for $50 because that seems reasonable but at this point ive been looking to buy a $200 device that is unlockable so i would really probably pay more for a clean, official unlock. I agree that the spirit of Android should be open and therefore unlocked for free but its obvious that OEMs dont feel this way and Google isnt likely to "pull an Apple" so to speak and tell OEMs to leave their devices unlocked.
How wonderful would it be to not have to risk bricking devices and staying one step ahead to keep root and ROM?!
If Big Red is talking about this then its a milestone indeed. For so long the official position has been to shut it down. Maybe all of our annoying voices are finally breaking through?
I for one, constantly post on their facebook page, email and frequently call just to bug em about this. Keep it up and step it up! Maybe we can get somewhere?
Edit: Which VP did you email? haha. Seems like everyone on their site is a VP of something or another. Maybe we could all make our voices heard together?
I'd pay $100 if i had to, but $50 is more realistic. If it was $100 i feel like that would dissuade enough people from spending that type of money to the point where community development is lacking , just like it is for locked down devices with only DevEd's as an option.
I really really hope something comes from this. TMo is just looking too good these days but i don't want to give up this network.
I would be comfortable with $25.00.
I'm with big blue, would pay 25 bucks in a heartbeat. 50... ehh, I'd be hesitant. This is the first device I've owned where I wasn't hellbent on unlocking the bootloader
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According to this there are 107.7 million Verizon wireless customers. So if 1.077 Million people (1%) root there devices on Verizon Wireless and are willing to pay $5 for a bootloader unlock, If everybody pays $5 to unlock there device Verizon would make 5.385 Million Dollars
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I voted for $100, but all of these choices seem reasonable to me. Obviously being able to do it for free would be optimal.
The quote above really isn't a great way of looking at it. Sure, $5M sounds like a lot, but taken in context it is a rounding error at a place like Verizon. That $5M isn't enough to move top line revenue by a single basis point, and therefore wouldn't be enough incentive to the bottom line. Even $100 for the 1.077M people would only add 10 basis points to top line revenue.
All that said, money can't be the sole factor for getting them to let us unlock the bootloaders. They would have to look at the goodwill it would create, and the new customers, as evidenced above, that they could steal away from the other carriers.
Personally I believe we should pay $0 as I paid for the device and should be allowed to do as I please with it. Realistically tho $5-$10 wouldnt be terrible
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I'd be willing to pay up to $50. I would think Verizon could easily steal some customers away from other carriers by offering something like this. However, I don't see any carrier offering any kind of warranty on a device that has had its bootloader modified. It would be very easy for a newb like myself to brick my device and then try to get another under warranty...
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$0. I am a firm believer that the devices I purchase should be fully open for customization.
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This. All of this.
$25
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