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[Verizon] Samsung offers "hacker friendly" Galaxy S3 on Big Red

http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-offer-hacker-friendly-developer-edition-galaxy-s-iii
Bit late for lots of folks and $599.

Immolate said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-offer-hacker-friendly-developer-edition-galaxy-s-iii
Bit late for lots of folks and $599.
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Three cheers for Samsung doing the right thing, about a month late.
A better choice would of been, a developer portal website, where we send you our IMEI, you mark our warranty as invalid should we brick our phone, and then give us a file to unlock our bootloader. I'd even pay a reasonable, less than $50 processing fee, for your effort.
Earlier on a conference call with Verizon and Samsung, the following happened.... ( For the Verizon and Samsung suits, the below is satire, if I got it right, it's a coincidence...)
Samsung: Verizon, we told you that you were going to piss off the tech influncers, they're going to badmouth the S3 on your network and people will consider other carriers. Your dumb ass move of locking the bootloader is now costing us support calls, as we try to explain your poor decision. The right thing to do, as we told you earlier was not to lock it.
Verizon: Heck no, we're not doing it. We don't want the warranty and support headaches, besides they're all just a bunch of hacker thieves who will destroy our network, break their phones and cry to us when they brick.
Samsung: Your dumb move is hurting our brand and your brand too. (Thinking: But you're too stupid to see it.) What if we made you a limited quantity of S3's of of the S3's on your network without locking the bootloader.did a developer phone. You could sell it to a limited customer base for a small up-charge and make everyone happy. This way you could limit the amount of so called "hacker thieves" while keeping the influncers happy and give us a consistent message where we don't have to lie.
Verizon: We're not selling it.
Samsung: You'd be able to make peace with the influencers, you know that group that is all excited about our products, and convinces their friends to get it on your network. They'd love you for it.
Verizon: We're too big to have a different process for the phone same phone. We'd have mass confusion everywhere, support, service, retail and we'd loose money on it.
Samsung: You need to do something about this. It's only going to get nastier as you deliver more phones. All the other carriers didn't lock, and you simply look stupid for doing it. Your confusing message sounds like paranoia mixed with PR lies. Nobody is believing you, and you make us look bad.
Verizon: We're big enough. We don't care. Let them whine, they'll quiet down in a while.
Samsung: We'll if you're not going to do anything at least let us do something. Let us build a model with an IMEI which you'll allow on your network, which doesn't have a locked bootloader. We'll sell it, support it, and handle warranty. We'll call it a developer phone.
Verizon: Grumble Grumble.... Fine. This issue is over and the last we'll talk about it. Goodbye. Click. Those Samsung guys need to grow a pair. <Laughter>
Samsung: What a bunch of morons in suits.

Well this is good for those who want to install roms and what not. It sucks for those who are trying to get the Sgs3 as an upgrade on Verizon.

this is awesome thanks! I woulda never though samsung would do this.

They also do not say if you are paying $599 to get the 16gb version or 32gb.

so its essentially the sprint version except it works on Verizon.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/28/atandts-garnet-red-galaxy-s-iii-for-vampires-we-go-hands-on/

So are there actual hardware differences in the Version S3 and the Developers version or is it just in the firmware ??

racer38 said:
So are there actual hardware differences in the Version S3 and the Developers version or is it just in the firmware ??
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I pray to God their isn't and we can just Odin their firmware.
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Taxing Developers?
So now verizon and samsung decide to tax us for being developers? No one needs to buy this. Kexec the verizon version untill we can crack the bootloader!
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At this point i doubt many people will be purchasing this phone. Had samsung released it a few weeks ago then i bet more people would have bought it, but they've waited too long now.

Neverendingxsin said:
At this point i doubt many people will be purchasing this phone. Had samsung released it a few weeks ago then i bet more people would have bought it, but they've waited too long now.
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yep is gonna be a failure. And the dev community is gonna be non existent cause no one will have it. All that is gonna be good for is hopefully we can steal their bootloader and such.
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xsteven77x said:
yep is gonna be a failure. And the dev community is gonna be non existent cause no one will have it. All that is gonna be good for is hopefully we can steal their bootloader and such.
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if the bootloader on the dev phone is usable on the locked handsets...thus unlocking them....then the development for this phone will become bigger than ever....

I plan on buying one when it is released in spite of Verizon.
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cshort0982 said:
I plan on buying one when it is released in spite of Verizon.
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When you do I hope you rip what we will need as a community for development.
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neyenlives said:
if the bootloader on the dev phone is usable on the locked handsets...thus unlocking them....then the development for this phone will become bigger than ever....
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pyrostic said:
When you do I hope you rip what we will need as a community for development.
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I hope to hell it's as easy as you guys are thinking it will be. Unfortunately I would NOT count on it.

haha that would be hilarious and so awesome at the same time if the whole unlocked bootloader stock image could just be flashed in odin to bypass everything else. I was sayin the devs in charge of the $3k in donations to the bounty for unlocked bootloader should just offer that money to somebody at Verizon...like somebody should email one of the execs, not CEO, but a little lower, execs are ALWAYS lookin to make some extra bucks. Or at Samsung, I'm sure there's some software that can unlock that they possess. I came from the OG and have only this for like 4 days, and I'm extremely missing the freedom I had. It's like moving to North Korea or Cuba, naw more like North Korea

^^you had me laughing at that!
....North Korea!

xsteven77x said:
yep is gonna be a failure. And the dev community is gonna be non existent cause no one will have it. All that is gonna be good for is hopefully we can steal their bootloader and such.
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We can use it to point out to the fcc that vzw's excuse for locking the bootloader on a block c device is bull crap.

They really are trying to tax us now. This prooves they only care about money, not improoving their products..
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I535MBDVZW
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Comment I left for HTC regarding the boot loader

The Evita has been available for nearly 3 months now. Is AT&T going to allow sanctioned bootloader unlocking? Was there any indication that after a period of time, the phone would be unlock able via HTC Dev? I'm considering selling my One X and never buying an At&T subsidized phone again, You are trying to come across as development friendly, but alas your flagship device sold in the United States is not unlock able.
Please advise without a canned response about carrier restrictions. I know all about that answer, I'd like a straight yes or no on this question please.
Lets see what I get in response

knowing the good folks at HTC you'll get the carrier crap...
heres to hoping tho

here's an idea, which is always fun. play the carrier against the manufacturer.
when they say its the carrier, go to the carrier and ask them, when each other blames it on each other, show them that's what going on. they hate.

Back when the phone launched I,along with a few other people filed complaints against AT&T with the BBB they went nowhere.

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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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gunnyman said:
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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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Oh I did
I can per persistent as hell.
I just hate the thought of this awesome phone's dev community getting screwed without the benefit of even a reach around.
I'm in a very pissy mood today.

They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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I will say thanks for taking the plunge first ....I know I'm better off because of it ....
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mounttimp said:
They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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The a$$holes quit responding to me as well... I feel you gunny. I'm a lil worried about all this WP added everywhere .. they are sealing all our holes..
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SkizzMcNizz said:
So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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That is the truth. It's AT&T's fault. Start emailing them.
When I first got my phone and they gave me the generic customer satisfaction text I left negative feedback. If you leave below a certain score they will ask you why you wouldn't recommend the phone. I mentioned the bootloader and bloatware, as well as lack of Wallet support.

Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.

ComposMentis said:
Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.
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There may be more of us than you think. AT&T is about to give up on the added tethering plans for certain users. The new shared data family plans include tethering. You just pick your data cap and go.
Even though I've got grandfathered unlimited data, I may go for this when it's available. Adding up data totals for the three smartphones I'm paying for, we'll still save some money and get "free" tethering.

I feel the exact same way Gunny. My Nexus One was my first smart phone, and obviously, my first HTC. I had such a good experience, I went straight back to HTC for my next phone (this one) but it's clear now that the Nexus One was an anomaly in HTC's history. I'm thinking its going to be Nexus or Samsung devices only for me from now on. Not sure how much longer I can hold out with this device. If the damn camera wasn't so awesome I would have sold it months ago. =(
Billy

HTC can't do anything, it's not their fault. You should be contacting AT&T, not HTC.

im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?

blessedswine said:
im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?
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I have no idea. Either way it does affect yor warranty, so I'm not sure why others dont use the CID mod to unlock.

We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update

gunnyman said:
We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update
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The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.

SkizzMcNizz said:
The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.
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Exactly

Talked to my att rep

I sell phones att verizon tmobile etc etc not going to say where.
She's normally pretty good about details on phones plans etc etc. She noticed night had a HOX and asked if my bootloader was unlocked. I said yes and why would you basket me that. She smiles and says there has been lots of calls and emails from people complaining about the locked bootloader. I'm told her yes its cost me lots of sales from people that like to mod. She smiles and says
"just hang on something is coming" I ask what. She says it has to do with the HOX and the bootloader.
The it for what it's worth just thought I'd share it
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CheesyNutz said:
I sell phones att verizon tmobile etc etc not going to say where.
She's normally pretty good about details on phones plans etc etc. She noticed night had a HOX and asked if my bootloader was unlocked. I said yes and why would you basket me that. She smiles and says there has been lots of calls and emails from people complaining about the locked bootloader. I'm told her yes its cost me lots of sales from people that like to mod. She smiles and says
"just hang on something is coming" I ask what. She says it has to do with the HOX and the bootloader.
The it for what it's worth just thought I'd share it
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Sure hope your right so everyone can enjoy the total experience of the one x.
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This is encouraging. The vp I spoke to didn't know what a bootloader was.

Hopefully she heard this from an official source and isn't speculating. But this is a little reassuring.
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CheesyNutz said:
"just hang on something is coming"
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Maybe I'm jaded, and but I'm more likely that something will come from the community before it will come from at&t.

CheesyNutz said:
I sell phones att verizon tmobile etc etc not going to say where.
She's normally pretty good about details on phones plans etc etc. She noticed night had a HOX and asked if my bootloader was unlocked. I said yes and why would you basket me that. She smiles and says there has been lots of calls and emails from people complaining about the locked bootloader. I'm told her yes its cost me lots of sales from people that like to mod. She smiles and says
"just hang on something is coming" I ask what. She says it has to do with the HOX and the bootloader.
The it for what it's worth just thought I'd share it
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Is she hot? Single?
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I hope this is legit. I called AT&T regarding this yesterday and everyone I talked too had no clue what I was talking about and all of them think I want to unlock my phone to use on other carriers. I tried explaining I am talking about software development and if I wanted a phone for other carriers I would have bought the unlocked international version and assured them that I wont be leaving AT&T (10+ years with them) and all I get is, "Well we can unlock your phone today if you pay the contract fee of $325...." sigh.

samiam0295 said:
I hope this is legit. I called AT&T regarding this yesterday and everyone I talked too had no clue what I was talking about and all of them think I want to unlock my phone to use on other carriers. I tried explaining I am talking about software development and if I wanted a phone for other carriers I would have bought the unlocked international version and assured them that I wont be leaving AT&T (10+ years with them) and all I get is, "Well we can unlock your phone today if you pay the contract fee of $325...." sigh.
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Most reps on phone are reading from a script.

yes i was pretty shocked that she new what a bootloader was lol. she pulled out her NOTE and was running CM10 . she said she knows a thing or 2 about bootloaders and roms lol

Do you sell phones for cheap ?;
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Perhaps a psycholigical move to get you to pass on motivation to potential customers. Increase sales. Hopefully im wrong but a lot of people in higher up positions had their tricks to earn them that spot
Real good info tho! This would be phenominal if at&t gave htc permission to unlock THEIR bootloaders

sanchitgrover said:
Do you sell phones for cheap ?;
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no, phones sales is how i pay my house payment

CheesyNutz said:
no phones sales is how i pay my house payment
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Your honesty is awesome! Its a good thing your in phone sales and not car sales

18th.abn said:
Your honesty is awesome! Its a good thing your in phone sales and not car sales
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lol truth

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This is encouraging. The vp I spoke to didn't know what a bootloader was.
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That sounds about right
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I emailed HTC asking about the bootloader, and received this reply:
I understand that you are upset about not being able to unlock the bootloader on your device.
As is stated on the developer website:
“HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator (carrier) restrictions. We continue to work with our partners on this, check back often for ongoing updates about unlockable devices.”
I’m sorry, but this is outside of our control.
Connie Sullivan
Customer Service Specialist
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I used one of the executive emails that was posted in another thread. It would seem that we are not going to get anything.

Epos7 said:
I emailed HTC asking about the bootloader, and received this reply:
I used one of the executive emails that was posted in another thread. It would seem that we are not going to get anything.
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The executive replied?

Epos7 said:
I emailed HTC asking about the bootloader, and received this reply:
I used one of the executive emails that was posted in another thread. It would seem that we are not going to get anything.
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I ran into roughly the same thing with AT&T and the Skyrocket. AT&T/Samsung wouldn't give out unlock codes, kernel source, do anything for the dev community until the initial exclusivity period was over. Afterwards it was business as normal.
I'd imagine that the HOX is going to be the same. Once something "else" comes out, and the HOX isn't "one of the phones to have", they'll loosen the restrictions and will let us do what we want.
The Galaxy S3 is a bit different. It's not really "exclusive" to any carrier in the sense the Skyrocket was, so they probably had to change tactics a bit.

I also work for att. I haven't heard officially about the boot loader being unlocked, but the htc rep was in the store the other day dropping off signs for our HOX display and when I asked about it he said from what he has heard from people above him something was in the works to be able to unlock it, but he also stated nothing is official at this point.
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Yeah, that's what our HTC rep said, as well. Nothing official or solid, just rumblings from within the higher-ups at HTC.

Keep unlocking phones legal!!

This really is a USA thread only but all can get involved. Recently our government has ruled that unlocking phones without carrier permission is now illegal. Please sign this petition to change such law so that we can own the technology we buy!!!
http://wh.gov/yA9n
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I don't see what's so unfair about this.
This impacts people who are buying carrier-subsidized devices. This is a practice that has always benefited the carrier much more than the consumer.
This ruling shouldn't be something to get mad about directly - people should be mad about how badly they're being screwed over by subsidies in general. I think it's fair enough that if you sign up to be screwed, you get your full screwing.
Also, if you actually read the thing, it doesn't apply to used devices. This only applies to new phones bought under contract wherein you had full disclosure about the phone's state and the carrier's policy - no one should hedge their bets on being able to circumvent the terms they agreed to.

Even if you buy a phone at full price from a carrier it is still illegal to unlock it without the carriers approval. Thats my issue.
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See the problem is that they claim they are losing money on people unlocking their phones then going to another carrier. The flaw here is that they aren't losing anything, if someone cancels the contract they pay the etf, and if they don't they are still paying monthly because of the contract. Its just another scheme to hurt our money. Carriers can get in on the cell phone unlocking business and charge money to unlock their own cellphones, and there won't be anyone to compete
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this is the result of old baby boomers who do not understand or appreciate info tech but "represent us" in govt + ridiculous amounts of corporate lobby money in politics + people surprised and shocked when they realize they voluntarily screwed themselves by signing bad contracts.
that said, people are too freaked out by this. ask yourself: will you still unlock your phone even if its illegal? if course you would and so would most people. so, who cares?
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bleggy said:
this is the result of old baby boomers who do not understand or appreciate info tech but "represent us" in govt + ridiculous amounts of corporate lobby money in politics + people surprised and shocked when they realize they voluntarily screwed themselves by signing bad contracts.
that said, people are too freaked out by this. ask yourself: will you still unlock your phone even if its illegal? if course you would and so would most people. so, who cares?
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If I paid full price for my phone, I should be able to do whatever I like to it.
But the real impact is: this law kills the spirit of technology innovation.

I see this as an issue between the consumer and carrier. Stop buying phones that don't come unlocked - demand that carriers make it an option or buy used / phones sold as unlocked only.
Carriers are slowly realising that they're losing business if they don't give people the options they want - see Sprint rolling out a pre-paid service (not just the other brands they own).
If a business is screwing you, take your business to one whose terms you like. It's like pay-day loans - terrible for you, but it's your choice to do something terrible for yourself.
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jozmedia said:
If I paid full price for my phone, I should be able to do whatever I like to it.
But the real impact is: this law kills the spirit of technology innovation.
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If you buy your phone on contract, the cost of phone is almost always subsidized and you're playing by their rules. You're essentially leasing the device.
If you buy your phone at full mrsp price, then yes, you should be free to do whatever.
I dont see how this stifles tech advancements at all; I just see the creation of more underground and gray markets for unlocking services. All the bodega cellphone stores will still unlock phones for 30 bucks; they may just advertise less. Hell, they probably wont change that. Do you think cops will even care? Not where I live.
And unlocking tools/codes/apps will still be all over the internet. They may not be on the US Google Play Store anymore. Big deal.
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Exactly. Its not that big of a deal if you.have the know how. I unlocked my galaxy note 2 subsidized without my carriers permission. In 30 seconds flat to work on any carrier. I could care less what government agency cares. And care less about.any legislation anyways as i am officially branded by.my government as an outlaw anyways. I have no respect for worthless laws.
Nor do the police have any means of enforcing this at the moment anyways. And yes i know because i take the.exact same.classes that.digital forensic offocers.take.at.my.college
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I was going to make this same exact thread.
Surprised to see so little activity on this topic especially here on XDA.
I would assume 95% of XDA members phones are unlocked/hacked so this would affect us.
Doesn't matter if you don't think it will be enforced or not, you shouldn't have to worry about being prosecuted just because you want to experiment with your own phone.
We need to reject laws like these that are hostile to the consumer and show greedy corporations and politicians that we are paying attention and won't stand for this crap.

Agreed
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papi92 said:
Even if you buy a phone at full price from a carrier it is still illegal to unlock it without the carriers approval. Thats my issue.
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Okay now that's just wrong on the carrier's part because when you pay full price, you literally own the phone.
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free phones and other devices
I don't like such politics. I want devices free!!!

Too little too late?
There was a thread for this, your probably not seeing it bc no one has posted on it in 4 or 5 days. Its really sad too especially considering that this is probably the first in a line of laws to be unfairly passed that screw the consumer. To everyone overseas: not everyone wants to do something they know is technically illegal, enforced or not. The options for unlocked phones get pretty narrow if you like a certain kind of phone, and even narrower if you are tied to a particular service that has better reception in your area like say verizon like with me. I live in the middle of nowhere...lol but that's a different subject. The point is this sucks bc it takes away our options as consumers. We shouldn't have to not buy locked phones until all the carriers get the hint and safe to say that would take time. Obviously they see the wisdom in this move for them or they would not have done it. I was like the 14,000th signature on this petition and have been watching and promoting it everywhere, and sadly it looks like we have lost the needed speed to finish with 100k sigs. At this rate we will finish with about 80k give or take i figure. Not saying give up bc i wont, but everyone that is in the u.s. and understands whats involved needs to pick it up big time as this gets less media coverage. Spread the word!
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal/1g9KhZG7

This big brother administration keeps ramming through laws that hurt the consumer!

If we purchase a non subsidized phone at full retail do they lower our monthly bill? Can we carrier unlock?
The answer to both is no. Funny how they get it all and we get nothing in return. Enough is enough already.
I will gladly pay full retail if I "own" my phone, no carrier lock and unlocked/s-off, and they reduce my bill accordingly.
Just remember, they use OUR airwaves, and now are abusing the legal system to hold us hostage so they can profit. Pretty sure this is not legal.
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5l4Y said:
I don't like such politics. I want devices free!!!
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Free to unlock our own phones/tablets!! :good: Totally agree!!

Yep, let's get this signed
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Droid Maxx boot unlocker FREE

Ok, as of 4.4.x The device was unlock-able unless you pay some money to a Chinese website.
WARNING: You must legally own the device off contract for this to work!
Here are a few steps to try
1) https COLON SLASH SLASH motorola-global-portal DOT custhelp DOT com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Go through the sign in process, and follow the instructions it is very straight forward. IF This does not work, which it did not for me, move onto step 2.
2) Call Verizon Wireless 1 (800) 922-0204. Provide them with your IEMI AND OEM Boot Unlock Code, found by following steps in step 1. The process of unlocking the device from VZW contract status can take up to 48 hours. Once done, go to the step 1 and go through the process of getting your unlock code.
They lock the devices because people who usually purchase these phones get them on contract and it breaks the ToS to do this.
That's it! Don't pay a Chinese website to do what you can do for free WITH YOUR LEGALLY OWNED DEVICE. I cannot stress enough how this WILL void, contract, warranties, etc... even any insurance you buy on the device. Water insurance is voided by doing this. If you are on contract they will deny you access if you still owe money on the device. It needs a clean IEMI for this to work!
Any mod wanna sticky this? Any mod want to fix the link please, this is not spam in any way.

Hi
I will have your thread moved to your device section. And threads must mature before being considered for a sticky.
Good luck!

Is this for real? This is how i unlocked my moto x back when it first came out didnt know this was an option...

Pls put the direct link pls
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Pls put the direct link pls
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a

Is the Verizon portion automated? This could be great news for a lot of people. Me, not so much since I upgraded to the Maxx back in Sept of this year. Lol

Proof that this worked?
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I think this only works on developer edition phone but I could be wrong as I have not tried yet.

Verizon does not unlock non Dev phones period. If they did everyone would be doing it. If you could buy a standard maxx and unlock what would be the point of a Dev edition.
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Verizon does not unlock non Dev phones period. If they did everyone would be doing it. If you could buy a standard maxx and unlock what would be the point of a Dev edition.
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True, the thing that threw me off is that his procedure includes calling Verizon which is unnecessary with the DE and the fact he says it only works with a phone that is not on contract. So he is implying that Verizon is willing to let the phone be unlocked under that condition which I also seriously doubt because Verizon doesn't want unlocked phones on their network period, if they can have it their way. I screwed up and now I'm using a Moto X DE as the daily driver and the Maxx as a backup. I almost want to buy a motherboard with 4.4 on it so I can unlock it but the seller on eBay knows this is doubled the price. Bastard.

Did somebody here buy that motherboard? Damnit!! I was waiting for the guy to lower the price. Lol. Oh well, I'm using the Maxx today and it is not bad. All I'm missing is WiFi tether but my iPad is the 4G version so I can just pull the Sim out of this phone and stick it in there and use all the data I want. Also found out that Verizon doesn't block the tethering capability of the iPad so I can setup a WiFi hotspot easily for the laptop without having to jailbreak, even though my iPad is jail broken... Currently blocking ads using Adguard which doesn't require root. All is good!

So, what exactly do you ask Verizon for? They can't supply the unlock code, that's from the Motorola site.

This guy started this thread 5 days ago and hasn't been back since to answer any ? I hate that don't start a thread with a ludicrous claim then abandon it. That's bull**** why start it at all.
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bigv5150 said:
This guy started this thread 5 days ago and hasn't been back since to answer any ? I hate that don't start a thread with a ludicrous claim then abandon it. That's bull**** why start it at all.
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Thank you @bigv5150 , I totally agree with you and sure quite a few others do. There are a lot of people that depend on XDA for the newest info and break through. Yes some things don't end up being the "Holy Grail" or even usable solution, however there bits of that information end up inspiring some one to find that solution.
But this thread was like a 5 year old getting a huge beautifully wrapped box under the tree only to find out it was just a wrapped empty box, a gag gift. How cruel!

Agreed. This why I love XDA! Always looking for that next update is addicting, lol!

I agree the op is most likely a true troll & post is nonsense as well (but).
Has anyone tried out the OPs suggestion with Vzw?
My phone is still in the Edge plan.

My 4.4.4 Maxx is off contract, and I went through step one but of course being a non-dev version my "device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking".
But I'm with everyone else...what exactly do I ask Verizon tech support to do? How does one even hope to accurately dictate a 131 character code? Seems farfetched to think that Verizon has access to modify the Motorola databases...
Probably an idiot for going this far, don't want to look like a bigger idiot by calling Verizon. But damn, I'd love to unlock and root this thing.

I called to check with Verizon(Why not?), and according to level 2 tech support, they will not assist in bootloader unlocking or anything related to rooting. This is true even though my phone is entirely off contract(no edge either). So while there is a chance that asking the right way might have them help you, I highly doubt it. I got some sort of lecture about the fact that they are a reseller of phones, and that this would somehow kill their deals with phone manufacturers.

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I called to check with Verizon(Why not?), and according to level 2 tech support, they will not assist in bootloader unlocking or anything related to rooting. This is true even though my phone is entirely off contract(no edge either). So while there is a chance that asking the right way might have them help you, I highly doubt it. I got some sort of lecture about the fact that they are a reseller of phones, and that this would somehow kill their deals with phone manufacturers.
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That's funny because they are the ones forcing the manufacturers to lock the bootloader.

The truth is, that they make money from bloatware developers, and do not want to allow the ability to uninstall those apps. If they did, it would devalue the cost they charge for bloatware.