http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/1...:+DroidLife+(droid+life)&utm_content=FaceBook
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/1...:+DroidLife+(droid+life)&utm_content=FaceBook
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That looks like a dream come true, but I will stay awake until this happens. Thanks for the news mate.
I have heard similar stories, this is great news for those of us who aren't willing or can't spend $600 on a developer edition phone. I wonder how "soon" soon is ;-)
What are you confused about by the way?
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shimp208 said:
I have heard similar stories, this is great news for those of us who aren't willing or can't spend $600 on a developer edition phone. I wonder how "soon" soon is ;-)
What are you confused about by the way?
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I'm confused about: will they or won't they unlock it? I hope it's true...
Though some chats are very specific to the meaning behind unlock, I can't help but think that this means GSM unlock.
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Obviously I hope it's true but I severely doubt it. I mean, how often do low level customer service reps know info like that before we do? Out of the 6 people I talked to at vzw none even knew the phone was shipped early for pre orders...
Hopefully it's not a way to trick the masses into upgrading to block the way we get root now.
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Though some chats are very specific to the meaning behind unlock, I can't help but think that this means GSM unlock.
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This is what I'm thinking as they've been mentioning that specific unlock for some time as part of an early OTA update. I hope it's the bootloader that's really being discussed but I certainly have my doubts.
We can only wait and see.
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Not going to happen...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771335 (Read 2nd edit)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775707
maybe
Well, I don't believe it either, but there might be some light at the end of the tunnel. I went into chat and asked. I encourage as many people to do this just so verizon may realize there's a huge interest for it. To do this, just go to the verizon page and pretend you're buying the SIII. There's a button that says 'chat with rep', or just wait there for a minute and you will get a popup.
Here's my transcript... If you don't believe me, go do it yourself!
Please hold for a Verizon Wireless sales representative to assist you with your order. Thank you for your patience.
You are now chatting with 'Alesha'
Mike: Hi! I'm interested in the S III but don't like it having the locked bootloader. Will Verizon release an update to unlock the bootloader?
Alesha: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
Alesha: ?
Alesha: Yes
Mike: This isn't the GSM unlocker so you can use the phone wherever in the world, this is to unlock the bootloader to allow for developers, correct?
Alesha: Right
Mike: and is there an ETA on this?
Alesha: No information released
Mike: OK, well, thank you very much for the information!
Don't believe these Verizon reps for a second. Many of them can't think for themselves and only regurgitate what the higher ups tell them. I worked in their call center last year and most of my co-workers had no idea what rooting, roms, bootloaders, etc. were.
NOT happening.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/1...re-update-to-unlock-the-galaxy-s3-bootloader/
Not very optimistic:
Dear Alexander,
Thank you for taking the time to email in with regards to the Samsung Galaxy SIII. Alexander, my name is Nick. I hear you with regards to the locked bootloader situation. I too was hoping we would follow suit. Currently we will be offering the developers version of the SIII, which comes with a unlocked bootloader for our customers. I do hope that we make a change to the current model that is out, and that we unlock the bootloader, but currently there are no plans to do so. At the very least I hope that we at least consider selling the unlocked version in a subsidized manner with a contract, as opposed to selling it full retail through Samsung.
Your voices are being heard, and I hope we truly consider some other options for our customers in the development community. In the meantime, really, the only other option I can recommend is to maybe sell your SIII. I am sure you can find someone who may not be interested in the unlocked version, but would like to upgrade to that phone and not be under contract. Remember the 16 GB model starts at $599.99. Depending how much you paid, I would charge as much as possible for the phone since they are coming out on top without the contract, and use the money you get towards the unlocked version. It may not be ideal, but at least there are some options for now.
Thank you for being the best part of Verizon Wireless, Alexander. Take care and have a great week.
Sincerely,
Nick
Verizon Wireless
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Can't believe he told you to sell the device.
Yea, that was like a wtf moment. What I interpreted it as was "Buy device for $200, try to gamble it off for at least $400. Then go shell out another $200 and purchase the developer edition."
Not only does that void any chance of insurance but I would purchase the phone unsubsidized if I wanted a "Developer's Phone".
This is a new corporate low even their employees don't like their actions. I work for Apple, we would never tell our customers to do something like that.
EDIT: Just to clarify, no I am not an apple fanboy... I do not own an apple product. Not even an iPod. It's just my job to represent them.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/1...re-update-to-unlock-the-galaxy-s3-bootloader/
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First europe then asia then U.S but Europe and asia around the same time. According to twitter...
Wonder what that means for the US?
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according to samsungs uk twitter account there us no release date right now for the us. the link to that is floating around but I am guessing it will be out by christmas
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With something like a firmware upgrade why do these companies bother releasing it in different countries at different times? Why not do just one worldwide release for it?
ukulele_ninja said:
With something like a firmware upgrade why do these companies bother releasing it in different countries at different times? Why not do just one worldwide release for it?
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Why not US? Money.
The companies in the United States want money. Plain and simple. Most companies want money, that is true, however the ones here in the US want money more than anything else.
That's why.
How does releasing a firmware in the US later give a company more money? If the firmware has been created funds don't need to be allocated to R&D. I'm in your boat though, it's BS. Can we run UK releases on our our phones?
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I would agree with you 100% there, however...
Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint, and the worst one of all AT&T have to put their "finishing touches" on them, thus delaying not only the release of the update, but also making sure that funds ARE allocated to their R&D to make those releases possible for their repective services.
In other words, the telecom companies need to mess up the 2.2 release so we all here can go in and fix them.
That's how the Circle of Technology works. ^_^
Why do you say that AT&T is the worst when they were the first to release a Galaxy S device? Just curious.
I would infer that AT&T will be the first U.S. Galaxy S device to get Froyo......of course that could be wishful thinking since I have a Captivate.....
Griffspen said:
Why do you say that AT&T is the worst when they were the first to release a Galaxy S device? Just curious.
I would infer that AT&T will be the first U.S. Galaxy S device to get Froyo......of course that could be wishful thinking since I have a Captivate.....
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He's saying that the death star is the worst at branding their phones with crapware. Though I think verizon has done a good job with the galaxy S. My understanding is that they ripped out all google search stuff and replaced it with bing. go figure!
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Why do you say that AT&T is the worst when they were the first to release a Galaxy S device? Just curious.
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where did you come up with that info? T-Mobile had the Vibrant a week before we got the captivate on AT&T.
l7777 said:
Though I think verizon has done a good job with the galaxy S. My understanding is that they ripped out all google search stuff and replaced it with bing. go figure!
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Yes vzw removed google maps and search from the phone. had a customer call today to return the fascinate for just that reason
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Yggdrasil777 said:
I would agree with you 100% there, however...
Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint, and the worst one of all AT&T have to put their "finishing touches" on them, thus delaying not only the release of the update, but also making sure that funds ARE allocated to their R&D to make those releases possible for their repective services.
In other words, the telecom companies need to mess up the 2.2 release so we all here can go in and fix them.
That's how the Circle of Technology works. ^_^
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Have you taken a look at the Samsung firmware leaks. All of them are fully loaded with bloatware. Samsung is putting everything on themselves. AT&T will probably only test it on their network and then release it.
How do we let AT&T know to not slack on releasing the 2.2 upgrade
I have already wrote to Samsung through their website about releasing the upgrade on time. How do we let AT&T know.
konds said:
I have already wrote to Samsung through their website about releasing the upgrade on time. How do we let AT&T know.
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lol...not to rain on your parade, but I dont think it is in our hands.
Can someone link to this tweet? I am curious
It seems like to me that if indeed AT&T is incapable of doing OTA updates (dont know if this is true or not) then it would make sense to package the gps and froyo updates in just one flash and release rather than do it one at a time
Yggdrasil777 said:
Why not US? Money.
The companies in the United States want money. Plain and simple. Most companies want money, that is true, however the ones here in the US want money more than anything else.
That's why.
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If you are so against money (blaming others for wanting it), I'll give you an email address where you can paypal all that you have. Just get rid of it, lead by example....
EVERYONE who is in business is there for the purpose to make a profit. In Europe, Asia or US. However, attributing all the business decisions solely to greed is stupid at best.
Just put the european rom on your phone find it in captivate android dev section its a sticky called how to install I9000
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Yggdrasil777 said:
I would agree with you 100% there, however...
Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint, and the worst one of all AT&T have to put their "finishing touches" on them, thus delaying not only the release of the update, but also making sure that funds ARE allocated to their R&D to make those releases possible for their repective services.
In other words, the telecom companies need to mess up the 2.2 release so we all here can go in and fix them.
That's how the Circle of Technology works. ^_^
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AT&T isn't the worst... Verizon (The Evil Empire) is. Just look what they did to the Fascinate. Talk about raping a device.
konds said:
I have already wrote to Samsung through their website about releasing the upgrade on time. How do we let AT&T know.
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I have also written to Obama through his twitter account about giving me 1 million dollars. But how do I let the bank know?
mwxiao said:
I have also written to Obama through his twitter account about giving me 1 million dollars. But how do I let the bank know?
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LoL! Well played, Sir.
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where did you come up with that info? T-Mobile had the Vibrant a week before we got the captivate on AT&T.
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Not to mention the i9000 was released in Europe far before any of the US SGS phones.
To be honest, I'm content with my phone the way it is. I'd like Froyo (and the speed increases its bound to bring ^_^) but knowing that they will be coming, I've no problem waiting until they are released.
Today I wrote a complaint to AT&T for interfering with HTC's bootloader unlock and I received this response:
Dear Christopher,
Thank you for contacting AT&T about your wireless service. My name is
Daniel D., and I will be more than happy to assist you with your inquiry
regarding software updates/OS information today.
I apologize for any frustrations that this may have caused you. After
some research, I am happy to inform you that AT&T doesn't interfere with
the software updates that the phone manufacturers provide. The only
stipulation that AT&T would have would be to ensure that the OS would be
optimized for AT&T's network. Please be aware that AT&T doesn't make
software for phones and we would never prevent our customers from
getting a better software update or OS.
We are sorry to hear that you are considering canceling for something
that is out of our control. In this case we recommend that you speak to
the manufacturer of the device. HTC can be reached at 866-449-8358.
If you have any additional questions about this issue, please respond to
this e-mail. If you have a question about another issue, please send us
a new e-mail via the Contact Us link in the lower left-hand corner of
your myAT&T account. Thank you for choosing AT&T; we appreciate your
business.
Daniel D.
eCare Customer Service Specialist
AT&T Business Solutions Customer Care
Business Care: 611 or 1-800-331-0500
Online account management: att.com/myatt
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The CSR seems to be indicating that AT&T isn't meddling and that the decision is HTC's. It's vague, non-commital customer service speak and almost certainly not true. . . . He also refers to the bootloader unlock as a software update from the manufacturer, so perhaps he just has no idea what I'm talking about.
I've written back asking for clarification on AT&T's official policy.
I suggest anyone who is unhappy with AT&T's behavior write to customer service and let them know.
It can't hurt to formally let them know that you're not pleased. Even if you're hooked into a contract at the moment, they really do care if you're less willing to renew next time around.
czucker said:
Today I wrote a complaint to AT&T for interfering with HTC's bootloader unlock and I received this response:
The CSR seems to be indicating that AT&T isn't meddling and that the decision is HTC's. It's vague, non-commital customer service speak and almost certainly not true. . .
I've written back asking for clarification on AT&T's official policy.
I suggest anyone who is unhappy with AT&T's behavior write to customer service and let them know.
It can't hurt to formally let them know that you're not pleased. Even if you're hooked into a contract at the moment, they really do care if you're less willing to renew next time around.
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taht's a standard AT&T kiss off letter. They're saying they don't do anything to prevent HTC from sending updates to phones. Not That they aren't preventing the bootloader from being unlocked.
Big Bro does it again
Standard BS reply from the big bro... u know urself nothing in that letter is what they say it to be...
I sort of figured as much and edited my original post to reflect that. . .
It may not help, but I still reckon it doesn't hurt to write a letter or two.
To ensure a safe and consistent experience for our wireless customers, AT&T does not support unlocked bootloaders. I understand that this will not satisfy your complaint, but this is AT&T’s official response to your complaint and I’ve submitted this information as our response to the BBB.
Please contact me with any further questions or concerns.
Regards,
Keith Morrisette
Customer Appeals Manager, Executive Response
AT&T Business Solutions
Office: 952 703-2344
Wireless: 952 847-3709
Fax: 952 703-2307
This message, including any attachments, is the property of and may contain confidential information of AT&T. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender of the error and delete this message and any attachments.
this is what i got from my bbb complaint.
porkaysi said:
To ensure a safe and consistent experience for our wireless customers, AT&T does not support unlocked bootloaders. I understand that this will not satisfy your complaint, but this is AT&T’s official response to your complaint and I’ve submitted this information as our response to the BBB.
Please contact me with any further questions or concerns.
Regards,
Keith Morrisette
Customer Appeals Manager, Executive Response
AT&T Business Solutions
Office: 952 703-2344
Wireless: 952 847-3709
Fax: 952 703-2307
This message, including any attachments, is the property of and may contain confidential information of AT&T. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender of the error and delete this message and any attachments.
this is what i got from my bbb complaint.
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Me too almost to the letter.
I'll write in as well
porkaysi said:
To ensure a safe and consistent experience for our wireless customers, AT&T does not support unlocked bootloaders. I understand that this will not satisfy your complaint, but this is AT&T’s official response to your complaint and I’ve submitted this information as our response to the BBB.
Please contact me with any further questions or concerns.
Regards,
Keith Morrisette
Customer Appeals Manager, Executive Response
AT&T Business Solutions
Office: 952 703-2344
Wireless: 952 847-3709
Fax: 952 703-2307
This message, including any attachments, is the property of and may contain confidential information of AT&T. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender of the error and delete this message and any attachments.
this is what i got from my bbb complaint.
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SAFE? Gimme a break... Whatever AT&T keep the bootloaders locked! We will brick countless devices over and over until we find our exploit and you can foot the bill. Or you can let us unlock through HTCdev like the rest of the world and save yourself the time/money.
Oh no wait, that would be the smart thing to do, and you are all Morons.
Att reps have no idea what they're doing. This is a good example.
They basically said the exact same thing about the vivid when it was released. I didn't buy it then and don't know.
But thanks to the heat devs here we are able to unlock it anyway.
They can't stop the brilliant minds at work here.
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Dear Christopher,
Thank you for contacting AT&T about your wireless service. My name is
Daniel D., and I will be more than happy to assist you with your inquiry
regarding software updates/OS information today.
I apologize for any frustrations that this may have caused you. After
some research, I am happy to inform you that AT&T doesn't interfere with
the software updates that the phone manufacturers provide. The only
stipulation that AT&T would have would be to ensure that the OS would be
optimized for AT&T's network. Please be aware that AT&T doesn't make
software for phones and we would never prevent our customers from
getting a better software update or OS.
We are sorry to hear that you are considering canceling for something
that is out of our control. In this case we recommend that you speak to
the manufacturer of the device. HTC can be reached at 866-449-8358.
If you have any additional questions about this issue, please respond to
this e-mail. If you have a question about another issue, please send us
a new e-mail via the Contact Us link in the lower left-hand corner of
your myAT&T account. Thank you for choosing AT&T; we appreciate your
business.
Daniel D.
eCare Customer Service Specialist
AT&T Business Solutions Customer Care
Business Care: 611 or 1-800-331-0500
Online account management: att.com/myatt
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There was something wrong with this letter, but I fixed it.
The guy has no idea. He doesn't even know what BL Unlock is. And he doesn't realize that AT&T DOES in fact prevent a lot of customers from using different software.
All of this is happen before and all will happen again.
I purchased the vivid right when it came out and we when thru hell to get any development going. Letters were sent to AT&T and HTC and they just laughed in our faces.
We called Mr.Chou a lair openly in the Twitter and facebook pages and to this day, they still claim he was not lying about not locking the bootloaders.
They eventually allowed the unlocking of the bootloader and then we got s-off. It was about 3 moths after release.
By contrast, note the HOX had some holes we have now xploided the the vivid did not have. So I think we have an advantage.
This is XDA some things may be difficult but definitely not impossible.
Sent from my HTC One X
Went through this with the Evo 3D as well..HTC wouldn't unlock the bootloader and a month later we had S-Off and not to far after the HTC Unlock tool came about. I still have hope for this device
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carlosjcar said:
All of this is happen before and all will happen again.
I purchased the vivid right when it came out and we when thru hell to get any development going. Letters were sent to AT&T and HTC and they just laughed in our faces.
We called Mr.Chou a lair openly in the Twitter and facebook pages and to this day, they still claim he was not lying about not locking the bootloaders.
They eventually allowed the unlocking of the bootloader and then we got s-off. It was about 3 moths after release.
By contrast, note the HOX had some holes we have now xploided the the vivid did not have. So I think we have an advantage.
This is XDA some things may be difficult but definitely not impossible.
Sent from my HTC One X
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I wonder if they really know what a boot loader is and what the difference is between locked or unlocked. Also why would they say they don't lock the boot loader? If I was talking to him on the phone (or better yet, in person), I would tell him "Look, grab your HTC Vivid there. Hold down power and Volume down. It will boot into hboot. What do you see at the top?"
Doubt it would of helped though. And oh well. You know, you've just got to have some bumps in the road. We all need to have conversations with head guys over at AT&T every now and then. Laughter is good medicine. And you know what, if they are not cooperative... give them a link to the GFY page (some forums have a GFY button but this does not, defuq is up with that???), and do it yourself.
I do agree, difficult but not impossible. XDA Devs are awesome!
I wonder why this bootlader still isnt officialy unlockable? My new ATT OneX+ with cid CWS_001 is unlockable at HTC dev. I wasnt sure if you guys were aware of that. The plot thickens . Makes no sense to me.. Everyone sell your hox and get a hox+ lol. Bring Rom devs with you!
nugzo said:
I wonder why this bootlader still isnt officialy unlockable? My new ATT OneX+ with cid CWS_001 is unlockable at HTC dev. I wasnt sure if you guys were aware of that. The plot thickens . Makes no sense to me.. Everyone sell your hox and get a hox+ lol. Bring Rom devs with you!
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It is quite odd, but I'll wait until they release a Qualcomm quad core phone.
I've also read that the hox+ has a sub par screen compared to ours
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superchilpil said:
It is quite odd, but I'll wait until they release a Qualcomm quad core phone.
I've also read that the hox+ has a sub par screen compared to ours
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I haven't noticed any difference in the screen. JB is smooth, Gaming is awesome if you do that. The Hox+ stock feels as smooth as my tweaked Oc'd hox with custom roms. And i'm loving the 64gb! No regrets at all. Wish there was more development... but that'll come. I can test the screens side by side Monday. Left the hox at work. And yes it is ODD that the bootloader is unlockable at launch.
nugzo said:
I haven't noticed any difference in the screen. JB is smooth, Gaming is awesome if you do that. The Hox+ stock feels as smooth as my tweaked Oc'd hox with custom roms. And i'm loving the 64gb! No regrets at all. Wish there was more development... but that'll come. I can test the screens side by side Monday. Left the hox at work. And yes it is ODD that the bootloader is unlockable at launch.
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I'd love 64gb on the one x, never understood why they did that to this phone.
I guess they figure we are going to find out how unlock regardless so might as well give us what they promised in the first place
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HTC DNA for Verizon was supported on htcdev up until launch day. Then it got pulled so its not unlockable(out of box). So at this point I'm fairly confused as to which phones are not unlockable and why......... Doesn't really matter why, but its not knowing that makes it so interesting
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18th.abn said:
HTC DNA for Verizon was supported on htcdev up until launch day. Then it got pulled so its not unlockable(out of box). So at this point I'm fairly confused as to which phones are not unlockable and why......... Doesn't really matter why, but its not knowing that makes it so interesting
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I swear I saw that coming...they were all happy and all fair witha all the HTC elevate members and whoever got the phone before hand and let the bl process be there till the night before...that makes me wonder why!!! Why do they Care so much..Verizon made some really questionable decisions with that device sucks as 16 gb no menu remap(come on?) No sd slot(really?) ....i wish HTC weren't in such a slump right now...they make the best phones in my opinions but when they come to the see US the carriers have them by their balls
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-offer-hacker-friendly-developer-edition-galaxy-s-iii
Bit late for lots of folks and $599.
Immolate said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-offer-hacker-friendly-developer-edition-galaxy-s-iii
Bit late for lots of folks and $599.
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Three cheers for Samsung doing the right thing, about a month late.
A better choice would of been, a developer portal website, where we send you our IMEI, you mark our warranty as invalid should we brick our phone, and then give us a file to unlock our bootloader. I'd even pay a reasonable, less than $50 processing fee, for your effort.
Earlier on a conference call with Verizon and Samsung, the following happened.... ( For the Verizon and Samsung suits, the below is satire, if I got it right, it's a coincidence...)
Samsung: Verizon, we told you that you were going to piss off the tech influncers, they're going to badmouth the S3 on your network and people will consider other carriers. Your dumb ass move of locking the bootloader is now costing us support calls, as we try to explain your poor decision. The right thing to do, as we told you earlier was not to lock it.
Verizon: Heck no, we're not doing it. We don't want the warranty and support headaches, besides they're all just a bunch of hacker thieves who will destroy our network, break their phones and cry to us when they brick.
Samsung: Your dumb move is hurting our brand and your brand too. (Thinking: But you're too stupid to see it.) What if we made you a limited quantity of S3's of of the S3's on your network without locking the bootloader.did a developer phone. You could sell it to a limited customer base for a small up-charge and make everyone happy. This way you could limit the amount of so called "hacker thieves" while keeping the influncers happy and give us a consistent message where we don't have to lie.
Verizon: We're not selling it.
Samsung: You'd be able to make peace with the influencers, you know that group that is all excited about our products, and convinces their friends to get it on your network. They'd love you for it.
Verizon: We're too big to have a different process for the phone same phone. We'd have mass confusion everywhere, support, service, retail and we'd loose money on it.
Samsung: You need to do something about this. It's only going to get nastier as you deliver more phones. All the other carriers didn't lock, and you simply look stupid for doing it. Your confusing message sounds like paranoia mixed with PR lies. Nobody is believing you, and you make us look bad.
Verizon: We're big enough. We don't care. Let them whine, they'll quiet down in a while.
Samsung: We'll if you're not going to do anything at least let us do something. Let us build a model with an IMEI which you'll allow on your network, which doesn't have a locked bootloader. We'll sell it, support it, and handle warranty. We'll call it a developer phone.
Verizon: Grumble Grumble.... Fine. This issue is over and the last we'll talk about it. Goodbye. Click. Those Samsung guys need to grow a pair. <Laughter>
Samsung: What a bunch of morons in suits.
Well this is good for those who want to install roms and what not. It sucks for those who are trying to get the Sgs3 as an upgrade on Verizon.
this is awesome thanks! I woulda never though samsung would do this.
They also do not say if you are paying $599 to get the 16gb version or 32gb.
so its essentially the sprint version except it works on Verizon.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/28/atandts-garnet-red-galaxy-s-iii-for-vampires-we-go-hands-on/
So are there actual hardware differences in the Version S3 and the Developers version or is it just in the firmware ??
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So are there actual hardware differences in the Version S3 and the Developers version or is it just in the firmware ??
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I pray to God their isn't and we can just Odin their firmware.
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Taxing Developers?
So now verizon and samsung decide to tax us for being developers? No one needs to buy this. Kexec the verizon version untill we can crack the bootloader!
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At this point i doubt many people will be purchasing this phone. Had samsung released it a few weeks ago then i bet more people would have bought it, but they've waited too long now.
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At this point i doubt many people will be purchasing this phone. Had samsung released it a few weeks ago then i bet more people would have bought it, but they've waited too long now.
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yep is gonna be a failure. And the dev community is gonna be non existent cause no one will have it. All that is gonna be good for is hopefully we can steal their bootloader and such.
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yep is gonna be a failure. And the dev community is gonna be non existent cause no one will have it. All that is gonna be good for is hopefully we can steal their bootloader and such.
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if the bootloader on the dev phone is usable on the locked handsets...thus unlocking them....then the development for this phone will become bigger than ever....
I plan on buying one when it is released in spite of Verizon.
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I plan on buying one when it is released in spite of Verizon.
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When you do I hope you rip what we will need as a community for development.
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if the bootloader on the dev phone is usable on the locked handsets...thus unlocking them....then the development for this phone will become bigger than ever....
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When you do I hope you rip what we will need as a community for development.
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I hope to hell it's as easy as you guys are thinking it will be. Unfortunately I would NOT count on it.
haha that would be hilarious and so awesome at the same time if the whole unlocked bootloader stock image could just be flashed in odin to bypass everything else. I was sayin the devs in charge of the $3k in donations to the bounty for unlocked bootloader should just offer that money to somebody at Verizon...like somebody should email one of the execs, not CEO, but a little lower, execs are ALWAYS lookin to make some extra bucks. Or at Samsung, I'm sure there's some software that can unlock that they possess. I came from the OG and have only this for like 4 days, and I'm extremely missing the freedom I had. It's like moving to North Korea or Cuba, naw more like North Korea
^^you had me laughing at that!
....North Korea!
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yep is gonna be a failure. And the dev community is gonna be non existent cause no one will have it. All that is gonna be good for is hopefully we can steal their bootloader and such.
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We can use it to point out to the fcc that vzw's excuse for locking the bootloader on a block c device is bull crap.
They really are trying to tax us now. This prooves they only care about money, not improoving their products..
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I535MBDVZW
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The Evita has been available for nearly 3 months now. Is AT&T going to allow sanctioned bootloader unlocking? Was there any indication that after a period of time, the phone would be unlock able via HTC Dev? I'm considering selling my One X and never buying an At&T subsidized phone again, You are trying to come across as development friendly, but alas your flagship device sold in the United States is not unlock able.
Please advise without a canned response about carrier restrictions. I know all about that answer, I'd like a straight yes or no on this question please.
Lets see what I get in response
knowing the good folks at HTC you'll get the carrier crap...
heres to hoping tho
here's an idea, which is always fun. play the carrier against the manufacturer.
when they say its the carrier, go to the carrier and ask them, when each other blames it on each other, show them that's what going on. they hate.
Back when the phone launched I,along with a few other people filed complaints against AT&T with the BBB they went nowhere.
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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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Oh I did
I can per persistent as hell.
I just hate the thought of this awesome phone's dev community getting screwed without the benefit of even a reach around.
I'm in a very pissy mood today.
They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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I will say thanks for taking the plunge first ....I know I'm better off because of it ....
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They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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The a$$holes quit responding to me as well... I feel you gunny. I'm a lil worried about all this WP added everywhere .. they are sealing all our holes..
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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That is the truth. It's AT&T's fault. Start emailing them.
When I first got my phone and they gave me the generic customer satisfaction text I left negative feedback. If you leave below a certain score they will ask you why you wouldn't recommend the phone. I mentioned the bootloader and bloatware, as well as lack of Wallet support.
Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.
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Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.
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There may be more of us than you think. AT&T is about to give up on the added tethering plans for certain users. The new shared data family plans include tethering. You just pick your data cap and go.
Even though I've got grandfathered unlimited data, I may go for this when it's available. Adding up data totals for the three smartphones I'm paying for, we'll still save some money and get "free" tethering.
I feel the exact same way Gunny. My Nexus One was my first smart phone, and obviously, my first HTC. I had such a good experience, I went straight back to HTC for my next phone (this one) but it's clear now that the Nexus One was an anomaly in HTC's history. I'm thinking its going to be Nexus or Samsung devices only for me from now on. Not sure how much longer I can hold out with this device. If the damn camera wasn't so awesome I would have sold it months ago. =(
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HTC can't do anything, it's not their fault. You should be contacting AT&T, not HTC.
im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?
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im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?
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I have no idea. Either way it does affect yor warranty, so I'm not sure why others dont use the CID mod to unlock.
We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update
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We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update
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The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.
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The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.
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Exactly
Ok, as of 4.4.x The device was unlock-able unless you pay some money to a Chinese website.
WARNING: You must legally own the device off contract for this to work!
Here are a few steps to try
1) https COLON SLASH SLASH motorola-global-portal DOT custhelp DOT com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Go through the sign in process, and follow the instructions it is very straight forward. IF This does not work, which it did not for me, move onto step 2.
2) Call Verizon Wireless 1 (800) 922-0204. Provide them with your IEMI AND OEM Boot Unlock Code, found by following steps in step 1. The process of unlocking the device from VZW contract status can take up to 48 hours. Once done, go to the step 1 and go through the process of getting your unlock code.
They lock the devices because people who usually purchase these phones get them on contract and it breaks the ToS to do this.
That's it! Don't pay a Chinese website to do what you can do for free WITH YOUR LEGALLY OWNED DEVICE. I cannot stress enough how this WILL void, contract, warranties, etc... even any insurance you buy on the device. Water insurance is voided by doing this. If you are on contract they will deny you access if you still owe money on the device. It needs a clean IEMI for this to work!
Any mod wanna sticky this? Any mod want to fix the link please, this is not spam in any way.
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I will have your thread moved to your device section. And threads must mature before being considered for a sticky.
Good luck!
Is this for real? This is how i unlocked my moto x back when it first came out didnt know this was an option...
Pls put the direct link pls
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Pls put the direct link pls
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Is the Verizon portion automated? This could be great news for a lot of people. Me, not so much since I upgraded to the Maxx back in Sept of this year. Lol
Proof that this worked?
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I think this only works on developer edition phone but I could be wrong as I have not tried yet.
Verizon does not unlock non Dev phones period. If they did everyone would be doing it. If you could buy a standard maxx and unlock what would be the point of a Dev edition.
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Verizon does not unlock non Dev phones period. If they did everyone would be doing it. If you could buy a standard maxx and unlock what would be the point of a Dev edition.
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True, the thing that threw me off is that his procedure includes calling Verizon which is unnecessary with the DE and the fact he says it only works with a phone that is not on contract. So he is implying that Verizon is willing to let the phone be unlocked under that condition which I also seriously doubt because Verizon doesn't want unlocked phones on their network period, if they can have it their way. I screwed up and now I'm using a Moto X DE as the daily driver and the Maxx as a backup. I almost want to buy a motherboard with 4.4 on it so I can unlock it but the seller on eBay knows this is doubled the price. Bastard.
Did somebody here buy that motherboard? Damnit!! I was waiting for the guy to lower the price. Lol. Oh well, I'm using the Maxx today and it is not bad. All I'm missing is WiFi tether but my iPad is the 4G version so I can just pull the Sim out of this phone and stick it in there and use all the data I want. Also found out that Verizon doesn't block the tethering capability of the iPad so I can setup a WiFi hotspot easily for the laptop without having to jailbreak, even though my iPad is jail broken... Currently blocking ads using Adguard which doesn't require root. All is good!
So, what exactly do you ask Verizon for? They can't supply the unlock code, that's from the Motorola site.
This guy started this thread 5 days ago and hasn't been back since to answer any ? I hate that don't start a thread with a ludicrous claim then abandon it. That's bull**** why start it at all.
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This guy started this thread 5 days ago and hasn't been back since to answer any ? I hate that don't start a thread with a ludicrous claim then abandon it. That's bull**** why start it at all.
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Thank you @bigv5150 , I totally agree with you and sure quite a few others do. There are a lot of people that depend on XDA for the newest info and break through. Yes some things don't end up being the "Holy Grail" or even usable solution, however there bits of that information end up inspiring some one to find that solution.
But this thread was like a 5 year old getting a huge beautifully wrapped box under the tree only to find out it was just a wrapped empty box, a gag gift. How cruel!
Agreed. This why I love XDA! Always looking for that next update is addicting, lol!
I agree the op is most likely a true troll & post is nonsense as well (but).
Has anyone tried out the OPs suggestion with Vzw?
My phone is still in the Edge plan.
My 4.4.4 Maxx is off contract, and I went through step one but of course being a non-dev version my "device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking".
But I'm with everyone else...what exactly do I ask Verizon tech support to do? How does one even hope to accurately dictate a 131 character code? Seems farfetched to think that Verizon has access to modify the Motorola databases...
Probably an idiot for going this far, don't want to look like a bigger idiot by calling Verizon. But damn, I'd love to unlock and root this thing.
I called to check with Verizon(Why not?), and according to level 2 tech support, they will not assist in bootloader unlocking or anything related to rooting. This is true even though my phone is entirely off contract(no edge either). So while there is a chance that asking the right way might have them help you, I highly doubt it. I got some sort of lecture about the fact that they are a reseller of phones, and that this would somehow kill their deals with phone manufacturers.
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I called to check with Verizon(Why not?), and according to level 2 tech support, they will not assist in bootloader unlocking or anything related to rooting. This is true even though my phone is entirely off contract(no edge either). So while there is a chance that asking the right way might have them help you, I highly doubt it. I got some sort of lecture about the fact that they are a reseller of phones, and that this would somehow kill their deals with phone manufacturers.
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That's funny because they are the ones forcing the manufacturers to lock the bootloader.
The truth is, that they make money from bloatware developers, and do not want to allow the ability to uninstall those apps. If they did, it would devalue the cost they charge for bloatware.