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ChevronWP7 and 7003

Could someone remind me: is ChevronWP7 unlock working on the 7003 build or I need 6541 or earlier builds?

Eh???
I think the 7004 is the true version come with all 1st gen Windows Phone, why you have 7003?
BTW, Chevron WP7 work with 7004 and 7008(pre-Nodo)

Strike_Eagle said:
Eh???
I think the 7004 is the true version come with all 1st gen Windows Phone, why you have 7003?
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Because I'm talking about Samsung Taylor (probably you are also never heard about). It's a free developer's phone sent by Microsoft last year August. Yep, it's 1-st gen but still good and useful phone (especially if you replaced stock 8Gb memory on micro-SD to 16 Gb, and bought extra-life battery. BTW, it stays with 7003 two or three times longer than my Focus with "advanced" battery It also have a ff cam but without drivers )
Unfortunately 7003 is a last firmware MS sent to us, developers (and nobody received update). By the rumors, some late Taylors was shipped with 7004, and some guys are able to update to Mango (however there is no such a thing like flsClean_7004.ffu exists on internet, all handsets was shipped with 7004 onboard).
This handset don't have (or may be I'm mistaken 'cause restore directly 7003 bits, not original or previous release) Diagnosis app so interop-unlock not possible. I've tried ChevronWP7 but w/o success (I can unregister easily but can't register), what's why I'm asking...
P.S. BTW, thanks for reply - if it works on 7004, it should work on 7003 (later MS closed that backdoor... ).

The No-Do Update is the Chevron Fix from Microsoft. People still have the chance to unlock it with Chevron till 7008, then they need to find the way to keep the unlock.
And yes, 7004 wasn't locked version. Give it a try agian.
And a new Zune Cilent is also a problem i think, because there are a lot of people can't use Chevron Unlock because they have the latest version of Zune Software.
Well, i think it is about time to have a real WP7 Phone man, Samsung FOCUS is not a bad choice.

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Well, i think it is about time to have a real WP7 Phone man, Samsung FOCUS is not a bad choice.
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You are inattentive reader, I already have a Focus (of course interop-unlocked, probably will update to Freedom ROM) Leme say, it's time for new, 2-nd gen phones (with ffcam etc.) but my contract will expire next May so I should wait (never paid even penny for handset). BTW, as for Taylor: some people has family members, for example ; also some people feel sorry for trashing working sophisticated electronic devices just because they one year old and 1-st gen

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You are inattentive reader, I already have a Focus (of course interop-unlocked, probably will update to Freedom ROM) Leme say, it's time for new, 2-nd gen phones (with ffcam etc.) but my contract will expire next May so I should wait (never paid even penny for handset). BTW, as for Taylor: some people has family members, for example ; also some people feel sorry for trashing working sophisticated electronic devices just because they one year old and 1-st gen
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LOL, i just read it and type the reply because i think you are just talking about the samsung taylor , lol.

[Q] Help regarding my first windows phone

I have been a symbian fanboy and I found windows phone very interesting.
I decided to buy a windowsphone.
What I found after following windowsphone for sometime is that this os has some restrictions.
some of those restrictions like bt file sharing,usb mass storage mode etc can be lifted if you can unlock your phone completely.
I decided to buy 2nd gen phones like lumia 800 so that I can unlock them using chevron labs.but there seems to be no more new tokens.
but as of now there is no way to jailbreak 2nd gen phones.
So I decided to go for samsung focus.
what I fear now is will it be upgraded to windowsphone 8 or not?
will there be any method coming in the future to unlock 2nd gen phones?
I like to mod and install unsigned apps .
please suggest me friends what to do?

Well, there are no promises in hacking. It seems you have done your research so you kinda answered your own questions as much as anyone else could. Nobody knows what devices will get WP8 since MS hasnt stated anything one way or the other offcially. Basically if you want to mod to the fullest extent you need a first gen htc or samsung, to a lesser extent a second gen samsung should do fine. If you want to be sure to get WP8 wait untill MS says what will and what won't get it.

So far, all Windows phones have gotten all of the signifficant updates. We'll see how long this holds true, but the (admittedly short) history of the OS says that even though some devices may be a bit later than others, everybody gets the major updates. Microsoft seems to have committed to this pretty strongly. My guess is that they'll ship updates for all phones sold within a two-year period of the update coming out, since that's where people will be in contracts (I know some places do three-year contracts, but at the rate tech advances, three years is a long time).
The Focus was still on sale just a few months ago. I fully expect it to get updates through at least Windows Phone 8.5 (late 2013, by the current twice-annual-significant-update schedule). No guarantees, of course, but that's my guess.
Additionally, you should be able to send updates via CAB files even if the phone falls out of official support. The firmware will get out of date, which might make some features of the new OSes less valuable (for example, Mango added the managed Compass API, but a firmware update was needed to make it usable). Bugfixes and major features will probably keep on coming, though. If nothing else, the Samsung gen1 phones have unlockable bootloaders, so you can install custom ROMs. The fact that you can run WP7 build 8107 on the HD2 - a phone that wasn't supposed to run WP7 at all - suggests that the Focus will probably be viable for quite some time.

I decided to go for samsung focus.
but I have a small doubt.
I havr read that windows break project does not work if firmware version is kk2.
so if I get focus with kk2 firmware,is there any way to downgrade to previous firmware and apply windows break?
if I get focus without mango(which might be the case in my country),after applying windows break and updating to mango,will focus be interop-locked again?
is the interop-unlock and bootloader unlock same?
if so how to unlock bootloader and install custom roms?
sorry for barrage of questions as iam a noob.
any help woukd be appreciated?

It's possible to downgrade the firmware, yes. Just flash an older (stock) ROM onto your phone.
Mango will reset your dev-unlock status, which probably means losing both interop-unlock and dev-unlock. However, you can interop-unlock after upgrading to Mango (interop-lock didn't even exist pre-Mango).
To avoid getting KK2 by accident, you should stop the update process as soon after getting Mango as you can. Then, use WindowBreak. You cna then install the remaining updates if you want to, I guess, but I'd suggest avoiding KK2 until a really good reason for it shows up.
Interop-unlock is completley different from bootloader unlock, though both are (indirectly) ways to get more access. Unlocking the bootloader is required for installing custom ROMs, which typically come "full-unlocked" and can do things not even possible with interop-unlock (at this time). Interop-unlock lets you install lots of homebrew apps, and lets you install homebrew apps that call into high-privilege drivers as a way to break out of the sandbox.
To look at it a different way, Interop-unlock is required in order to use an app like WP7 Root Tools. A custom ROM (requires an unlocked bootloader) has everything run as root, so WP7 Root Tools is hardly needed (though still useful just for the browser/editor tools).
For unlocking the bootloader and using custom ROMs, see the DFT threads on the Dev&Hacking sub-forum. In particular: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1485569

GoodDayToDie said:
It's possible to downgrade the firmware, yes. Just flash an older (stock) ROM onto your phone.
Mango will reset your dev-unlock status, which probably means losing both interop-unlock and dev-unlock. However, you can interop-unlock after upgrading to Mango (interop-lock didn't even exist pre-Mango).
To avoid getting KK2 by accident, you should stop the update process as soon after getting Mango as you can. Then, use WindowBreak. You cna then install the remaining updates if you want to, I guess, but I'd suggest avoiding KK2 until a really good reason for it shows up.
Interop-unlock is completley different from bootloader unlock, though both are (indirectly) ways to get more access. Unlocking the bootloader is required for installing custom ROMs, which typically come "full-unlocked" and can do things not even possible with interop-unlock (at this time). Interop-unlock lets you install lots of homebrew apps, and lets you install homebrew apps that call into high-privilege drivers as a way to break out of the sandbox.
To look at it a different way, Interop-unlock is required in order to use an app like WP7 Root Tools. A custom ROM (requires an unlocked bootloader) has everything run as root, so WP7 Root Tools is hardly needed (though still useful just for the browser/editor tools).
For unlocking the bootloader and using custom ROMs, see the DFT threads on the Dev&Hacking sub-forum. In particular: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1485569
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thanks mate you have been so helpful to me.
btw how to stop updation process just after mango so that kk2 fw wont be installed on my phone?
will kk2 be shown as separate update or does it come with mango?

I think most the chefs turn the auto update off. I could be wrong, but my phone has not auto updated. I am using Nextgen ROM.

Updates are installed in order. After each one, the Zune software will check for more updates. You can cancel the update process at any time except when the phone is actually being flashed. There's a cancel button on the Zune software, or you can even just pull the USB cable. Since the updating process involve multiple reboots of the phone, and each one takes some time, it should be pretty easy to catch if you're paying attention.
KK2 is usually, though not always, pushed with 8107. It should not be pushed with 7720, which came out many months before KK2. 7720 is the first release Mango build. I recommend stopping after 7720, though 7740 may also be OK.

subraj said:
I decided to go for samsung focus.
but I have a small doubt.
I havr read that windows break project does not work if firmware version is kk2.
so if I get focus with kk2 firmware,is there any way to downgrade to previous firmware and apply windows break?
if I get focus without mango(which might be the case in my country),after applying windows break and updating to mango,will focus be interop-locked again?
is the interop-unlock and bootloader unlock same?
if so how to unlock bootloader and install custom roms?
sorry for barrage of questions as iam a noob.
any help woukd be appreciated?
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Currently both Rogers and ATT have not pushed the KK2 firmware to the Focus, only the Omnia 7 has had the newest firmware pushed to it so you should be fine. If you plan on installing a custom ROM I DO suggest fully updating to 8107 via Zune to get the most upto date radio and then flashing the custom ROM to get the best battery/signal ect. (I suggest starting with the Rogers 7004 firmware since it updates all the way to 8107 via Zune where as the ATT one does not, as long as you have a v1.3 Focus it will flash fine on an ATT phone)
EDIT: also if you want a nice clean starting point to start you modding on your focus perhaps you might want to try my ROM posted in my sig below --v

confused
hey guys i am really confused i am thnking of buying either nokia lumia 710 or samsung omnia w
so heres why am confused
omina w basically for the hardware advantage like the front cam, glonass support, gyroscope and the super AMOLED display and the main one being omnia w can be hacked (i know about firmware limitation)
and lumia 710 basically coz its nokia i have always had a nokia phone and moreover nokia is partner with microsoft so it may get exclusive updates and other software support like nokia drive etc....
so i want to know that will omnia too will get such software support officially or maybe unofficailly like the nokia drive xap is available for other devices.....if in future nokia release some vital exclusive content will/can it be ported to other devices??????
plz rep soon am goin to buy either 1 this week....

goldsmit409 said:
hey guys i am really confused i am thnking of buying either nokia lumia 710 or samsung omnia w
so heres why am confused
omina w basically for the hardware advantage like the front cam, glonass support, gyroscope and the super AMOLED display and the main one being omnia w can be hacked (i know about firmware limitation)
and lumia 710 basically coz its nokia i have always had a nokia phone and moreover nokia is partner with microsoft so it may get exclusive updates and other software support like nokia drive etc....
so i want to know that will omnia too will get such software support officially or maybe unofficailly like the nokia drive xap is available for other devices.....if in future nokia release some vital exclusive content will/can it be ported to other devices??????
plz rep soon am goin to buy either 1 this week....
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I don't think that Nokia is getting exclusive features from microsoft. And there might be ways to port the nokia software but you never know. So if you're using your phone for navigation I would suggest you buying the nokia as this would give you a legal and good offline navi. Otherwise I'd go for the samsung for freedom reasons.

WP 7.8 Release?

Does anyone have any information on when WP7.8 will be available or if there is any source online to get our hands on it, so that porting may begin?
Here is an excellent article about the features one can expect in 7.8
Here's an Update wherein it is stated that RTM (Release to Manufacturing) is September while GA (General Availability) is November. ;-)

It will be released with the first WP8 devices.

They did mention that there will be a program that allows you access to the updates early. I'm not sure if Windows Phone 7.8 is included in that, or if its just Windows Phone 8 and higher.

Nokia lumia 900 gets WP7.8 for a couple of weeks, this is officialy confirmed by Nokia ana Microsoft .

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They did mention that there will be a program that allows you access to the updates early. I'm not sure if Windows Phone 7.8 is included in that, or if its just Windows Phone 8 and higher.
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During the Summit I have understood that this feature is only for WP8-updates and not for WP7.8 because this update is released by the carriers.... So, we will have to wait .... :-/

I understood that the new update route is one of those few new things that come with 7.8

WP 7.8 is for the 1st & 2nd gen of WP devices that could not upgrade to WP8, sort of consolation

Once Nokia releases the update for Windows Phone 7.8 for the Nokia Lumia 900 can we expect a port soon to other devices like the HD7 ? or do we have to wait till HTC or Tmobile officially announces it ? (which I do not wish for)

amirox said:
Does anyone have any information on when WP7.8 will be available or if there is any source online to get our hands on it, so that porting may begin?
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This is the Windows Phone 8 forum, not 7 :silly:

wp7.8 will be sent directly, not via providers. That means everybody should get this & get this the same date.

No, WP8 will receive subsequent updates 'over the air' but you have to have it to get that as I understand it!

AFAIK Nokia plans to release the Tango update (7.5) in the upcoming weeks, not the 7.8 update. We'll probably have to wait more especially given that MS is not very confident with the 7.8 performance as of now.
Our best bet is to wait for the Windows Phone 8 SDK coming late this summer. Chances are it will include a usable WP 7.8 build.

I don't understand why people are talking about "porting" 7.8 to older phones. Every phone that runs Mango will get the 7.8 update, regardless of age or carrier. They've said they're pushing this update out without carrier intervention.
Also, Nokia did say that the 7.8 update would be release "in the coming weeks." That could mean withing the next few weeks, or by the time Windows Phone 8 comes out. Those are both technically "in the coming weeks."

amirox said:
Does anyone have any information on when WP7.8 will be available or if there is any source online to get our hands on it, so that porting may begin?
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hey, according to multiple tech sites, the Windows Phone 7.8 will be released right after the WP8 has been outed in the market.

revxx14 said:
I don't understand why people are talking about "porting" 7.8 to older phones. Every phone that runs Mango will get the 7.8 update, regardless of age or carrier. They've said they're pushing this update out without carrier intervention.
Also, Nokia did say that the 7.8 update would be release "in the coming weeks." That could mean withing the next few weeks, or by the time Windows Phone 8 comes out. Those are both technically "in the coming weeks."
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Well, I for one have an old HD2 which of course is excluded of the luxury of official updates. Also I thought it'd be more fitting to put in here than in wp7 forum because of similarity.. sorry if I was wrong there. Happy with the outcome so far. I wanted to make a platform for discussion regarding 7.8 release and that we got; )
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Will WP 7.8 contain ?
DataSmart
IE10
Company Hub
Wallet
VOIP+Skype+VideoChat
all wp8 features that not need hardware changes

Dr.Mazika said:
Will WP 7.8 contain ?
DataSmart
IE10
Company Hub
Wallet
VOIP+Skype+VideoChat
all wp8 features that not need hardware changes
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No, this has been clearly said by Microsoft and followed up with big people who work with and are at Microsoft, you will ONLY get the new tile layout on the main page (to have the 3 size tiles) and nothing else.
Only other changes you could possably get will be in a App format(downloadable via the marketplace). Not a update. If you want more of the new stuff, you will have to BUY a WP8 device when it's released.
This has been said from Microsoft a few times now...
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revxx14 said:
I don't understand why people are talking about "porting" 7.8 to older phones. Every phone that runs Mango will get the 7.8 update, regardless of age or carrier. They've said they're pushing this update out without carrier intervention.
Also, Nokia did say that the 7.8 update would be release "in the coming weeks." That could mean withing the next few weeks, or by the time Windows Phone 8 comes out. Those are both technically "in the coming weeks."
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There was a update to that, they took it back.
https://twitter.com/NokiaUS/status/215627719155793922
That statement that you would get 7.8 on Nokia devices in a few weeks is INCORRECT, here is WPcentral's take on it...
http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-78-update-available-weeks
It's TBA... So no one knows at this point...
Trust me, I wish it was true because if Nokia got it, we'd all get it, as I am sure someone will rip it to work on any device...

I have a Samsung focus v1.3 running a custom ROM. Will I be able to update to 7.8 when it comes out?

amirox said:
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I currently run WP 7.8.

lseidman said:
I currently run WP 7.8.
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That is some kind of joke, isn´t it?!

[Q] Will 1st generation phones like my samsung focus get the 7.8 update?

Hello guys,
I'm wondering whether my samsung focus sgh-i917 will have the apollo update,
can any body give us official certified answer?
Thanks in advance

ihabsad said:
Hello guys,
I'm wondering whether my samsung focus sgh-i917 will have the apollo update,
can any body give us official certified answer?
Thanks in advance
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apollo is wp8, none of the current wp7 devices will be able to run apollo.
but ALL(!) will receive the wp7.8 update, which brings some lite-wp8-feeling.

roqstr said:
apollo is wp8, none of the current wp7 devices will be able to run apollo.
but ALL(!) will receive the wp7.8 update, which brings some lite-wp8-feeling.
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oookaay,
many thanks for the info,
I quess that but I needed confirmation
I think WP8 UI screen will be great an enough for me until I upgrade to a high end HTC WP8 devise

According to what I have been reading, 7.8 seems to be just a UI change so far (more details may come up later). Paul Thurott site says that it is an OTA update that will by bypassing the carriers. This too me indicates that it will go to all post-mango phones.

Any word on official launch date?

lsguntu said:
Any word on official launch date?
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Nothing yet
Nokia said something about their users getting it in a few weeks but, it was pulled back and though it was going to be Tango. No one is sure on that.
I bet we get it from here (XDA) before we get the offical one. I want it on my custom rom

Yes all existing windows phone device will get windows phone 7.8 according to microsoft.

WP 7.8

So, since Microsoft forgot to let us know when 7.8 will be available, have anyone heard any rumors?

In my country people from microsoft talked about January or February

WP7.8 official release?
I was also about to post this question
Now that MS has taken lid off WP8, they should also declare official availability of WP7.8 for us- owners of their legacy WP7 devices.

Is it possible the Lumia 610 will get his update?

andrews317 said:
Is it possible the Lumia 610 will get his update?
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Every Windows Phone 7.1 7.5 will get it. the only problem is how, some are saying it will be released from the manufacturers itself on new models which run 7.8 and then we can "port" them, and then somebody says if microsoft not push it to every and let it do the carriers 80% of the users can wait forever to get it. Some sources say after the launch of WP8 and couple of weeks after that you can go to your carrier and they will flash it for you. I have also seen an Nokia News twitter post where a user is upset why nobody has mentioned 7.8 in the presentation yesterday. and Nokia News responded on twitter with "news on wp 7.8 will be soon, stay tuned" or something like that... So it can only take to new year for 7.8 thats my thoughts.

http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-78-probably-coming-late
Windows Phone 8 is to be formally released in a few more hours. But guess a whole lot of us care more about its little brother: Windows Phone 7.8. For existing Windows Phone users who aren't buying a new device at this time, Windows Phone 7.8 is the real savior. There's bad news coming from Chinese site WPDang though: it'll be coming late.
Citing undisclosed sources, the site claims that Windows Phone 7.8 won't come through OTA update first. Instead, after a few weeks of Windows Phone 8 debut, version 7.8 will show up pre-loaded on new low-end devices. Afterward, OEMs will be pushing out OTA updates to older phones.
If true, this sounds awfully like what it was like with Windows Phone 7.5 (Mango): Fujitsu IS12T, Nokia Lumia 800, HTC Titan, then existing devices started to get the update gradually. Some OEMs might choose to update old phones in a manual way in retail stores, like what HTC did back then in Taiwan.
The good news is that, Windows Phone 8.0 and 7.8 are largely the same. Let's pray no one is left behind.
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I am not entirely sure if that article is correct.
According to Nokia, Lumia devices (610 through 900) will be getting the update first. There are no new 7.8 devices announced in the following months, so it is safe to assume that by the end of the year we will have 7.8

mcosmin222 said:
I am not entirely sure if that article is correct.
According to Nokia, Lumia devices (610 through 900) will be getting the update first. There are no new 7.8 devices announced in the following months, so it is safe to assume that by the end of the year we will have 7.8
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well, when ever it comes and to whatever device, lets get those cab files shared ASAP so we can all have a piece of the pie

http://www.gsmarena.com/_windows_phone_italys_facebook_page_reveals_wp78_features-news-5028.php
Whoever is managing the Windows Phone Italia Facebook page was more talkative, however, and answered a question from a fan, revealing the new features that v7.8 will bring. The response has been deleted since.
The list includes the new homescreen (which we already knew), something called 'Club', which we guess is Rooms, Xbox Music and SmartGlass.
Facebook is hardly a reliable source of info, but the features listed seem quite probable - we already know about the homescreen, Rooms and SmartGlass are available for other OSes too, so it's unlikely they will be excluded from WP7.8 and Xbox Music will bring the existing user base to Microsoft's new music service.
In case you don't know yet, Windows Phone 7.8 will be released for 7 and 7.5 devices, as the old hardware won't get updated to WP8.
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7.8 will bring about as much as windows phone 8 does. The only things we won't get in 7.8 is the things closely related to hardware like NFC, real multitasking (apparently dual core CPUs are needed for that) and directx support (so we won't be able to run some games).
That's pretty much all the differences.
And before you ask me how i know this, think about it...if it were only a few features, why not push the upgrade sooner? They actually take their time to implement stuff.

Windows Phone Italy said that it would be released 2 weeks after the WP8 launch (google it)