So guys,I might have a chance to exchange my Desire HD for a Sensation(Plus some money of course),but I want to be sure before I set my eyes on the Sensation only.
To help me choose,could someone do some benchmarks for me?By benchmarks,I don't want stuff with stock rom or stock CPU speeds,but I mean some heavy benchmarking with full dual-core support(Mike's way or anyone else's),full CPU overclock(nothing less than 1.7GHz-Not even 2GHz would damage anyone's phone during ONE benchmark),GPU overclock(I read it's been done in some kernels-Wasn't possible on older Snapdragons) and generally everything that boosts performance.That would be my daily setup(Yes,I'm that mad ) and,also owning a Galaxy S 2,I won't be easily surprised.
So,the benchmarks I'd like to see are:
-Linpack's multi-thread test
-Nenamark 1 }I'd prefer Nenamark 2 but anyway.
-Nenamark 2 }
-CFBench
-Smartbench 2011
-Antutu benchmark
-Quadrant benchmark
If you could post your setup(Rom,CPU speed,GPU speed etc),I'd be deeply grateful too.
Many thanks in advance,I hope I'll be joining you soon.
Well I get 2500 normally on default CPU and GPU on android revolution hd .
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Just one thing: current overclock only works for one core. So what you'll see won't be the actual performance
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austendale9 said:
Well I get 2500 normally on default CPU and GPU on android revolution hd .
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Well,I clearly stated I do not care about stock settings that much but thanks for replying anyway.
idavid_ said:
Just one thing: current overclock only works for one core. So what you'll see won't be the actual performance
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Yes,I read about that,but I care more about graphics this time,as that was what disappointed me with my past HTC devices and made me switch to Samsung.Qualcomm's CPUs were always really good,no doubt about that so I don't exactly care about that.Synthetic benchmarks also don't mean ****,that's why specific benchmarks like Nenamark for GPU and Linpack for CPU are higher in my priority list.Also,in Smartbench,I care more about the gaming index score.
Thanks for pointing it out anyway.
Here are some benchmarks using Faux's 0.1.0 kernel at 1.7 min/Max and melvins beast rom.
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Here are some benchmarks using Faux's 0.1.0 kernel at 1.7 min/Max and melvins beast rom.
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Nice.. I need to do that
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Here are some benchmarks using Faux's 0.1.0 kernel at 1.7 min/Max and melvins beast rom.
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180ish Linpack?Holy shiznit.That makes me wanna see both cores enabled.
Also holy shiznit because I forgot to mention CFBench.Thanks for that too skyhigh2004!
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Nice.. I need to do that
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Yes my friend,you do.These phones(Sensation,Galaxy S 2) are very far from their true potential at stock.You should see my Galaxy S 2 stock vs my Galaxy S 2 running VillainRom and Ninphetamine kernel @1.6GHz.Night and day.And,unlike HTC,Samsung does a good job at not crippling their phones too much.
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180ish Linpack?Holy shiznit.That makes me wanna see both cores enabled.
Also holy shiznit because I forgot to mention CFBench.Thanks for that too skyhigh2004!
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Yeah that linpack was crazy high lol, ranked 173 overall lol.
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SGS2 = 950. Sensation = mid-700's. G2X = ?
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G2X running EB1.05 Froyo OC 1.5
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That's not even close to being right. I'm not overclocked and can't get over 775 and there is no way possible a OC to 1.5ghz can more than double that.
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Pretty cool benchmark....my score
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Running the exact same ROM as the guy above at the same clock speed, my score was 856.
Edit: by the guy above I meant the guy running EB1.05.
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775 running on stock Rom and 863 running EB 1.05
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maybe the new app is a little buggy
I dunno if this one is accurate.
got a 954 with cm nightly 74 and faux oc/uv at 1.1ghz, then got a 2230 with same rom/kernal at 1.5ghz
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I dunno if this one is accurate.
got a 954 with cm nightly 74 and faux oc/uv at 1.1ghz, then got a 2230 with same rom/kernal at 1.5ghz
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haha sounds a little buggy to me
844 running CM latest nightly no OC. Stock CM kernel.
832 running stock CM7 @ 190 density. No custom kernels.
My score was on par with what it said Sensations were. I've heard CM7 benchmarks are usually lower compared to straight stock roms.
This also seems to heavily rely on browser technology. I wonder if the SGS2 marks higher with its acceleration?
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832 running stock CM7 @ 190 density. No custom kernels.
My score was on par with what it said Sensations were. I've heard CM7 benchmarks are usually lower compared to straight stock roms.
This also seems to heavily rely on browser technology. I wonder if the SGS2 marks higher with its acceleration?
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Yea, the hardware accelerated browser definitely helps. Whether anyone likes Samsung or not, they are proving to be the biggest innovator in Android today. Not to mention, since the Hummingbird was introduced, they have always had some of the best processors.
By the way, as I said in my previous post on here, the best I got on the stock Rom was 775.
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Hmm. I think this benchmark has major issues. Under system info it claims the second cpu has zero as its speed but reads the first one correctly. I will try it out again after they fix dual core support.
Edit... looking a little closer explains the scores. It is a biased hack test produced by a rival chip maker.
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Hmm. I think this benchmark has major issues. Under system info it claims the second cpu has zero as its speed but reads the first one correctly. I will try it out again after they fix dual core support.
Edit... looking a little closer explains the scores. It is a biased hack test produced by a rival chip maker.
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Ummmm, duh? You didn't know who created the beanchmark until now? If its so biased then why does its rivals top the list? Samsung products.
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Edit... looking a little closer explains the scores. It is a biased hack test produced by a rival chip maker.
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Lol good one. He's got jokes. After digging into the innards of this Qualcomm app, I discovered it is made by Qualcomm. They are working in collusion with Samsung to make Nvidia look like ****. Enemy of my enemy, and all that...
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Ummmm, duh? You didn't know who created the beanchmark until now? If its so biased then why does its rivals top the list? Samsung products.
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Calm down everyone. It would not be the first time there was a bias in a benchmark. I played with it for three seconds, noticed it does not even recognize the second nvidia chip properly and said something about it. Now did Qualcomm just make a crappy benchmark or did they do it on purpose?
Why does it show zero for the speed of the second chip? That's all I wanted to know. Apparently you do not have the answer.
Rooted stock rom on my first run.
is it flawed? or i just have a magic tegra2
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Calm down everyone. It would not be the first time there was a bias in a benchmark. I played with it for three seconds, noticed it does not even recognize the second nvidia chip properly and said something about it. Now did Qualcomm just make a crappy benchmark or did they do it on purpose?
Why does it show zero for the speed of the second chip? That's all I wanted to know. Apparently you do not have the answer.
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Of course it's a flawed test. Scores are all over the place. By the way...Don't act like this is the only flawed test out there. There pretty much all flawed right now since most of them don't know how to use the Sensations processor correctly. It's the only CPU that throttles down to a single core and most of the benchmarks are only using one of it's cores.
Everything is stock , no overclocking or anything like that
Is that a surprise? isn't sensation better than Nexus? or am i wrong?
Benchmark tests don't always tell the truth.
Tired of those benchmark noobs.
ok, forget the benchmark...
I tried a galaxy nexus...is very very very laggy, is not even smooth or fast...
our sensation is the best smartphone of the dual core generation (we are switching now on quad generation), better than sgs2 too!....
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our sensation is the best smartphone of the dual core generation (we are switching now on quad generation), better than sgs2 too!....
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The Snapdragon S4 based phones disagree
Pikabat I axpected more from you =\ as you can see in the benchmark the nexus have much better CPU (the blue stat) and sensation only have better I/o (the green one) which is obvious why... So no, sensation isn't faster...
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k0zmic said:
The Snapdragon S4 based phones disagree
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I'm not saying that is the best dual core XD is just the best of the dual generation, (2011 production)...obviously now are coming out more performant cpu, but I'm talking about the 2011 phones...
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I'm not saying that is the best dual core XD is just the best of the dual generation, (2011 production)...obviously now are coming out more performant cpu, but I'm talking about the 2011 phones...
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Best dual core phone, in your opinion
It's not a fact.
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throcker said:
ok, forget the benchmark...
I tried a galaxy nexus...is very very very laggy, is not even smooth or fast...
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When did you use a Galaxy Nexus? It's never been laggy.
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this thread is so lol
first of all 2700 is low
second of all, that quadrant graph has not been updated since they added dual/quad core support
so thats galaxy nexus running 1 core test
check my screenshot for some sensation power, 1512mhz gets 3700 points
was with openSensation btw
My phone just sucks in benchmarks . Quadrant cant get over 3000 mark. Antutu usaly 6800+ on 1.5 ghz. But no lag in programs and in the interface, but seeing this score im thinking something is not ok with it.
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Lmao... I have bolth Sensation (my wife's) and the SGS 2.. and yes the pyramid is a good phone. It lacks a good bit in 3D performance ..
I know the 2 devices have the same S3 chip set but Sammy definitely did better implementing it.. Though I tend to not trust quadrant I score over 3200 with no overclock on my SGS 2.. just saying .. not to mention my buddy has a GNex and that shiz is fast...
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On ics 3D performance is deem good on sensation. Gta 3 max setting = no lag
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FreakyDR said:
Pikabat I axpected more from you =\ as you can see in the benchmark the nexus have much better CPU (the blue stat) and sensation only have better I/o (the green one) which is obvious why... So no, sensation isn't faster...
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Sorry to disappoint you bro
Believe it or not I prefer higher I/O because I deal with large file transfers.
Benchmark may not be accurate 100% but I used both devices and Sensation is faster. For me anyways
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Sorry to disappoint you bro
Believe it or not I prefer higher I/O because I deal with large file transfers.
Benchmark may not be accurate 100% but I used both devices and Sensation is faster. For me anyways
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Its inflation. Quadrant is notorious for this. R/RW speed between the current devicesis pretty much the same, especially when they are all on custom ext4 partitions .. Hence why you can run 4 benchmarks and get 4 different scores .. notice the CPU and graphics numbers don't really flux to much...
Hate to break it to you bro. But the Sensation will never be faster than a GNex or any SGS 2 version. Don't get me wrong I love the device. But it is what it is..
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ok, forget the benchmark...
I tried a galaxy nexus...is very very very laggy, is not even smooth or fast...
our sensation is the best smartphone of the dual core generation (we are switching now on quad generation), better than sgs2 too!....
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lol. My brother has a galaxy nexus and it's not how you describe. It's pretty fast and very smooth.
I m from europe but galaxy nexus what is in usa that lte version is lagy like hell. For many peopls
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Who gives a F**k.
We have what we have, be happy! Its not about the size of your e-penis, its the fleshy one that counts.
Enjoy
you all realize that quadrant is only good for comparing devices with the same screen resolution, right?
The Gnex is running at a much higher resolution and becuase of that the scores will be lower in Quadrant.
Quadrant runs at the phones native resolution so the gnex has to work harder... I cant believe people still use this as their proof....
Hey guys! Is there a Ice Cream Sandwich custom Kernel that's 1200 MHz??? I am sick and tired of my phone burning up! Please help! Or do I have to go back to stock Gingerbread to get 1200 MHz??? Thanks!
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Try Opensensation! todays build! Most bugs are fixed. Clocked at 1000 but u can change that in settings courtesy of cm9
But is there a dev that support 1200 ics kernel???
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But is there a dev that support 1200 ics kernel???
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use setCPU lower it down to 1.2
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use setCPU lower it down to 1.2
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Thanks, but this I know. I want to know if there are any around without having to use third party apps to clock it. You guys mean to tell me there is no T-Mobile dev kernels that's clocked to 1200 MHz???
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FWIW the manufacturer actually rates the Qualcomm 8260 as a 1.5 GHz processor..so technically HTC just underclocks it. 1.5 is perfectly normal, although I am a little concerned as well because I noticed my finger felt on fire the screen was so hot earlier today. Your best bet at this point might be stock, OC/UV, or bust sadly
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Thanks, but this I know. I want to know if there are any around without having to use third party apps to clock it. You guys mean to tell me there is no T-Mobile dev kernels that's clocked to 1200 MHz???
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Well if you really don't want third party apps then just install kernel via aroma installer and select something around 1200MHz I know you can at least do that with bricked kernel
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not really the answer you are looking for, but I just want to tell you that it makes no difference whether you underclock it to 1ghz yourself or if the original kernel is set at 1ghz. They will both consume the same amount of power. I think the best way to approach this is to underclock it yourself to 1ghz and UNDERVOLT with system tuner. my sensation is stable at 1.02ghz @ 937.50mV
Thanks guys for all of your help. I just went back to Gingerbread and I guess i'll just have to wait until official ICS...again, thanks.
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Thanks guys for all of your help. I just went back to Gingerbread and I guess i'll just have to wait until official ICS...again, thanks.
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It's much more of a hassle to go back to gb than any of the simple options provided above, but I guess to each his own... :facepalm:
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Sorry for a late reply, but ARHD6.6.3 has an option to run the stock (1.2ghz) kernel!!
I'm just curious does anyone have an educated guess as to what this CPU could be pushed too? I know with my G2 stock clock was 810 mhz and was easily doubled. Does this mean potentially pushing both cores to 3 GHZ ?
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You can't push a device from 1.5GHz to +3.0GHz I doubt it.
It'll just overheat if you attempt to.
1.8/1.9GHz will be fine.
Well i assumed as much, but if the stock clock is already this high i would assume we could get it to go quite a bit more
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What is the purpose of making it go that high?
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What is the purpose of making it go that high?
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That wasn't the question, and is completely irrelevant. I'm just curious as to what the theoretical peak frequency for the S4 CPU is.
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with the sensation (also snapdragon 1.5gz) it was safe to use at around 1.8ghz max...
I wouldnt push it much further than this as the risks triple. The last thing you want is a fried processor.
Thats if you feel you need OC anyway, I dont think this devices needs it at all. But hey, each to their own i guess
Good question. On my g2 I was able to go from 810mhz to 1.9ghz stable. I don't see why we wouldn't be able to push it up to there if the first gen spandragon could do it.
Also yeah, there isn't a point in doing so. Some people are overclockers for the pure hell of it. If you have to ask "what's the point" then you shouldn't even post on here anyway.
The dev that made setcpu posted his one x pc'd to 1.8ghz stable and said the script should soon be integrated into the app. Also commented it will be available for the one s too. It was on Twitter (forgot Twitter tag).
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Sensation was an older snapdragon, we could get more out of ours. It depends on if you want daily driver speed or pure power.
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I want to play with overclocked Krait A-15 before I left
I would want pure power for benchmarks and enough power for games and heavy processes. I would also love to undervolt and underclock for battery gains.
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I was getting close to 12000 on antutu on cm10 with no overclock, now I'm getting around 10000 on king kang m1 with 2ghz overclock.
Any ideas? Anyone else see this ?
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Benchmarks.Dont.Mean.S H I T
Yes, I know the mantra, but how can the benchmarks slow down with an overclock?
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Yes, I know the mantra, but how can the benchmarks slow down with an overclock?
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Maybe because king kang has more to it.. something bare bones (cm10) will usually be faster
Benchmarks also mean nothing for phones. As long as it runs fast, why does it matter?
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I was getting close to 12000 on antutu on cm10 with no overclock, now I'm getting around 10000 on king kang m1 with 2ghz overclock.
Any ideas? Anyone else see this ?
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I've read somewhere clocking the phone too high can be counter productive and reduce performance like you see
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Benchmarks.Dont.Mean.S H I T
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THANK YOU! This thread has no point.
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I've read somewhere clocking the phone too high can be counter productive and reduce performance like you see
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Yeah, I wanna understand why that is?
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Maybe because king kang has more to it.. something bare bones (cm10) will usually be faster
Benchmarks also mean nothing for phones. As long as it runs fast, why does it matter?
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yeah, I thought the same thing, that KK is all hopped up and feature rich with background processes, but I score almost identical scores with processor scaled back to stock 1.5 ghz.
And I know, I read it a millions times a day that benchmarks don't mean anything, but I like to have something quantifiable that the phone is executing instructions faster and not just a placebo effect because I'm overclocked.
I have all of my other devices overclocked, and they all score better on benchmarks. I've come across kernels that score lower and run smoother than overclocked kernels, but this is the first time I've encountered lower scores with an overclock.
In any event, like I asked in my initial post, I'm wondering how the overclock can garner the lower scores.
If you feel this thread has no point, you're free to not comment, and return to the questions forum.
Otherwise, I would like to discuss how overclocking produces slower benchmarks.
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Yeah, I wanna understand why that is?
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Because some devices cant run at a higher clock, that's why they are set at a stable speed across all CPUs
Try 1800, see if it improves. If so then you have a device with a weak CPU.
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Most likely tripping thermal switches in cpu or gpu and it auto scales down to prevent three mile island in your hand.
If you have a heavy thick case on phone expect worse results.
WR
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This is XDA, we don't run off of tangable, quantifiable data; we run off of placebo. Sorta like how aznrice's mods got so popular.
Anywho, it's probably not stable at those speeds so it's throttling during the benchmark. As said above role it back a tad and see what happens.
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Ohhhh yeah. That's right. I was looking at another oc kernel and there were some adb shell commands to alter thermald.conf to "stick" the oc at higher speeds.
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Because some devices cant run at a higher clock, that's why they are set at a stable speed across all CPUs
Try 1800, see if it improves. If so then you have a device with a weak CPU.
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In the past, I've just seen reboots if the frequency is too high. The I haven't had any reboots at 2 ghz. I'll try running at different frequencies shortly. Driving home ATM.
Edit: To clear, I was not posting while driving. I am about to drive.
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This truely is the worst phone to txt and drive with. Awkward to hold with one hand and impossible to type with without looking at the screen.
I used to be able to type full paragraphs on my Aria...
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WarRaven said:
Most likely tripping thermal switches in cpu or gpu and it auto scales down to prevent three mile island in your hand.
If you have a heavy thick case on phone expect worse results.
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This is likely what's happening.
Not familiar with CM10, but if there's a file /etc/thermald.conf you can raise the thresholds. But just do it a bit, the thermal limits are there to protect your phone from overheating.
Hmmm.. it only started running at the other frequency when I dialed them back. Could cpu spy not be reporting accurately?
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This truely is the worst phone to txt and drive with. Awkward to hold with one hand and impossible to type with without looking at the screen.
I used to be able to type full paragraphs on my Aria...
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I've never had a keyboard-less phone that I could type accurately without looking.
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Cpu spy is wrong in this case.
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