I was getting close to 12000 on antutu on cm10 with no overclock, now I'm getting around 10000 on king kang m1 with 2ghz overclock.
Any ideas? Anyone else see this ?
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Benchmarks.Dont.Mean.S H I T
Yes, I know the mantra, but how can the benchmarks slow down with an overclock?
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nespid said:
Yes, I know the mantra, but how can the benchmarks slow down with an overclock?
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Maybe because king kang has more to it.. something bare bones (cm10) will usually be faster
Benchmarks also mean nothing for phones. As long as it runs fast, why does it matter?
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I was getting close to 12000 on antutu on cm10 with no overclock, now I'm getting around 10000 on king kang m1 with 2ghz overclock.
Any ideas? Anyone else see this ?
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I've read somewhere clocking the phone too high can be counter productive and reduce performance like you see
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THANK YOU! This thread has no point.
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I've read somewhere clocking the phone too high can be counter productive and reduce performance like you see
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Yeah, I wanna understand why that is?
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absolutelygrim said:
Maybe because king kang has more to it.. something bare bones (cm10) will usually be faster
Benchmarks also mean nothing for phones. As long as it runs fast, why does it matter?
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yeah, I thought the same thing, that KK is all hopped up and feature rich with background processes, but I score almost identical scores with processor scaled back to stock 1.5 ghz.
And I know, I read it a millions times a day that benchmarks don't mean anything, but I like to have something quantifiable that the phone is executing instructions faster and not just a placebo effect because I'm overclocked.
I have all of my other devices overclocked, and they all score better on benchmarks. I've come across kernels that score lower and run smoother than overclocked kernels, but this is the first time I've encountered lower scores with an overclock.
In any event, like I asked in my initial post, I'm wondering how the overclock can garner the lower scores.
If you feel this thread has no point, you're free to not comment, and return to the questions forum.
Otherwise, I would like to discuss how overclocking produces slower benchmarks.
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Yeah, I wanna understand why that is?
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Because some devices cant run at a higher clock, that's why they are set at a stable speed across all CPUs
Try 1800, see if it improves. If so then you have a device with a weak CPU.
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Most likely tripping thermal switches in cpu or gpu and it auto scales down to prevent three mile island in your hand.
If you have a heavy thick case on phone expect worse results.
WR
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This is XDA, we don't run off of tangable, quantifiable data; we run off of placebo. Sorta like how aznrice's mods got so popular.
Anywho, it's probably not stable at those speeds so it's throttling during the benchmark. As said above role it back a tad and see what happens.
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Ohhhh yeah. That's right. I was looking at another oc kernel and there were some adb shell commands to alter thermald.conf to "stick" the oc at higher speeds.
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Because some devices cant run at a higher clock, that's why they are set at a stable speed across all CPUs
Try 1800, see if it improves. If so then you have a device with a weak CPU.
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In the past, I've just seen reboots if the frequency is too high. The I haven't had any reboots at 2 ghz. I'll try running at different frequencies shortly. Driving home ATM.
Edit: To clear, I was not posting while driving. I am about to drive.
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This truely is the worst phone to txt and drive with. Awkward to hold with one hand and impossible to type with without looking at the screen.
I used to be able to type full paragraphs on my Aria...
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Most likely tripping thermal switches in cpu or gpu and it auto scales down to prevent three mile island in your hand.
If you have a heavy thick case on phone expect worse results.
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This is likely what's happening.
Not familiar with CM10, but if there's a file /etc/thermald.conf you can raise the thresholds. But just do it a bit, the thermal limits are there to protect your phone from overheating.
Hmmm.. it only started running at the other frequency when I dialed them back. Could cpu spy not be reporting accurately?
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This truely is the worst phone to txt and drive with. Awkward to hold with one hand and impossible to type with without looking at the screen.
I used to be able to type full paragraphs on my Aria...
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I've never had a keyboard-less phone that I could type accurately without looking.
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Cpu spy is wrong in this case.
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So guys,I might have a chance to exchange my Desire HD for a Sensation(Plus some money of course),but I want to be sure before I set my eyes on the Sensation only.
To help me choose,could someone do some benchmarks for me?By benchmarks,I don't want stuff with stock rom or stock CPU speeds,but I mean some heavy benchmarking with full dual-core support(Mike's way or anyone else's),full CPU overclock(nothing less than 1.7GHz-Not even 2GHz would damage anyone's phone during ONE benchmark),GPU overclock(I read it's been done in some kernels-Wasn't possible on older Snapdragons) and generally everything that boosts performance.That would be my daily setup(Yes,I'm that mad ) and,also owning a Galaxy S 2,I won't be easily surprised.
So,the benchmarks I'd like to see are:
-Linpack's multi-thread test
-Nenamark 1 }I'd prefer Nenamark 2 but anyway.
-Nenamark 2 }
-CFBench
-Smartbench 2011
-Antutu benchmark
-Quadrant benchmark
If you could post your setup(Rom,CPU speed,GPU speed etc),I'd be deeply grateful too.
Many thanks in advance,I hope I'll be joining you soon.
Well I get 2500 normally on default CPU and GPU on android revolution hd .
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Just one thing: current overclock only works for one core. So what you'll see won't be the actual performance
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Well I get 2500 normally on default CPU and GPU on android revolution hd .
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Well,I clearly stated I do not care about stock settings that much but thanks for replying anyway.
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Just one thing: current overclock only works for one core. So what you'll see won't be the actual performance
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Yes,I read about that,but I care more about graphics this time,as that was what disappointed me with my past HTC devices and made me switch to Samsung.Qualcomm's CPUs were always really good,no doubt about that so I don't exactly care about that.Synthetic benchmarks also don't mean ****,that's why specific benchmarks like Nenamark for GPU and Linpack for CPU are higher in my priority list.Also,in Smartbench,I care more about the gaming index score.
Thanks for pointing it out anyway.
Here are some benchmarks using Faux's 0.1.0 kernel at 1.7 min/Max and melvins beast rom.
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Here are some benchmarks using Faux's 0.1.0 kernel at 1.7 min/Max and melvins beast rom.
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Nice.. I need to do that
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Here are some benchmarks using Faux's 0.1.0 kernel at 1.7 min/Max and melvins beast rom.
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180ish Linpack?Holy shiznit.That makes me wanna see both cores enabled.
Also holy shiznit because I forgot to mention CFBench.Thanks for that too skyhigh2004!
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Nice.. I need to do that
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Yes my friend,you do.These phones(Sensation,Galaxy S 2) are very far from their true potential at stock.You should see my Galaxy S 2 stock vs my Galaxy S 2 running VillainRom and Ninphetamine kernel @1.6GHz.Night and day.And,unlike HTC,Samsung does a good job at not crippling their phones too much.
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180ish Linpack?Holy shiznit.That makes me wanna see both cores enabled.
Also holy shiznit because I forgot to mention CFBench.Thanks for that too skyhigh2004!
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Yeah that linpack was crazy high lol, ranked 173 overall lol.
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I'm just curious does anyone have an educated guess as to what this CPU could be pushed too? I know with my G2 stock clock was 810 mhz and was easily doubled. Does this mean potentially pushing both cores to 3 GHZ ?
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You can't push a device from 1.5GHz to +3.0GHz I doubt it.
It'll just overheat if you attempt to.
1.8/1.9GHz will be fine.
Well i assumed as much, but if the stock clock is already this high i would assume we could get it to go quite a bit more
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What is the purpose of making it go that high?
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What is the purpose of making it go that high?
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That wasn't the question, and is completely irrelevant. I'm just curious as to what the theoretical peak frequency for the S4 CPU is.
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with the sensation (also snapdragon 1.5gz) it was safe to use at around 1.8ghz max...
I wouldnt push it much further than this as the risks triple. The last thing you want is a fried processor.
Thats if you feel you need OC anyway, I dont think this devices needs it at all. But hey, each to their own i guess
Good question. On my g2 I was able to go from 810mhz to 1.9ghz stable. I don't see why we wouldn't be able to push it up to there if the first gen spandragon could do it.
Also yeah, there isn't a point in doing so. Some people are overclockers for the pure hell of it. If you have to ask "what's the point" then you shouldn't even post on here anyway.
The dev that made setcpu posted his one x pc'd to 1.8ghz stable and said the script should soon be integrated into the app. Also commented it will be available for the one s too. It was on Twitter (forgot Twitter tag).
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Sensation was an older snapdragon, we could get more out of ours. It depends on if you want daily driver speed or pure power.
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I want to play with overclocked Krait A-15 before I left
I would want pure power for benchmarks and enough power for games and heavy processes. I would also love to undervolt and underclock for battery gains.
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Score:4626
I'm running Magnolia X ROM w/ Unlocked Bootloader and CWM Installed.
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bro I hut 5200 stock
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5012 on stock 1.73 after removing bunch of use-less but harm-ful apks ! I have also tweaked the build prop and doubled the cash values in it.
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bro I hut 5200 stock
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Pics or it didn't happen.
I used to get in the 5000s, but it dropped for some reason.. I was then getting low 4000s constantly. So this is a big improvement for me. I might look like a dumbass here but, this is the highest score I've gotten in a while.
Here is stock
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I just got 4656 on 1.85 Leak. No root, Nothing.
Stock rooted. Guess what? It means absolutely nothing.
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Yay, you have a bloated memory score As long as phone is running smoothly, benchies dont matter.
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Here is stock
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I get around 4600 but every phone performs differently even if it's the same model (this applies to CPU's as well)
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bro I hut 5200 stock
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Same here. I ran quadrant after unboxing and hit high 5100's a few times. Now I can't get more than mid 4900
I get an awesome score of 4456 fml.
I hit 5000-5149 every time.
Here's. mine
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Red5 said:
I hit 5000-5149 every time.
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Me to almost every time I run
Drew301 said:
Pics or it didn't happen.
I used to get in the 5000s, but it dropped for some reason.. I was then getting low 4000s constantly. So this is a big improvement for me. I might look like a dumbass here but, this is the highest score I've gotten in a while.
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So you used to get in the 5000's....but your title claims your "highest score yet" is 4626.
If the phone runs smooth that's all that matters. Android Central talks all the time about how these benchmark tests are a bunch of bull crap. My HOX is running the Clean Rom 2.0 and is smoother than ever, but scores lower than when I first got the phone.
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You guy's notice your cpu score?
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Drew301 said:
Pics or it didn't happen.
I used to get in the 5000s, but it dropped for some reason.. I was then getting low 4000s constantly. So this is a big improvement for me. I might look like a dumbass here but, this is the highest score I've gotten in a while.
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I guess you got some of the pics showing higher than you thought.
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Stock. No root. The more tests I run consecutivelly it lowers, or if phone is already warm. So my advice, if a high number is uber important to you, test as cool as you can.
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You guy's notice your cpu score?
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I'm assuming the one listed there under my device is the quad core international, therefore it makes sense it'd be lower then the listed HOX, I guess hah.
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Stock 1.73 gets at or above 5000 but later updates have brought scores down to around 4500-4600. Not sure why.
Hey guys,
Had a question regarding overclocking. I have root n installed setCPU. The max limit is 1500Mhz. However with max settings the performance is the same. Is there a way to go above this limit with root + stock Rom?
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Do you really need to overclock it? It's the most powerful phone out there, with a processor that is ridiculously fast as is. What do you expect to get out of overclocking?
I am jus looking to see the phone operate at max capabilities. And also the responsiveness is really good after setting it to max values currently so just a bit of curiosity as to how far can I stretch the limit of the phone
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Have you tried the dual core mod? I have noticed an increase in responsiveness after flashing it. Right up your alley methinks.
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FYI
Until we get custom kernel overclocking isn't really an option even with the mode that OC's you to 1.8ghz there's little to no difference. Cheers.
This may be off topic but why 1.8? Was that value chosen arbitrarily?
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The overclock speed is determined by what voltage we can get the CPU up to safely without burning it.
1809mhz (1.809ghz) is the fastest we can go right now though this could easily change with the kernel source.
And 1.8 does feel faster, but it really isn't necessary. I haven't come acorss something yet that makes this phone skip a beat.
Yes but how did you decide that this was a safe value? Is it from stress testing and monitoring the temperature? Or is it like in the HTC Aria where the CPU in the phone was actually spec'ed to run 200Mhz higher than what the phone shipped with? Or something else?
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Until we get custom kernel overclocking isn't really an option even with the mode that OC's you to 1.8ghz there's little to no difference. Cheers.
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Little to no difference? It's either overclocked or not. The heat parameters are one thing but it is overclocked.
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From what I've read about the CPU and the archetecture the processor should run 2.5Ghz I dunno at what voltage. Also can handle 64gb memory and 2gb ddr2. Personally I'd never run the CPU to 2.5Ghz seeing how that'd result in about 1.75x the amount of Mv's the chip is getting at stock and no internal cooler.
They designed the CPU to run at 2.5Ghz btw. But a phone doesn't need to hit that.. a laptop yeah. Tablet maybe? A phone, no, to small. Also not every phone will hit the same overclock no two dies are the same. The closer you get to the center of the silicon the more stable chip. The very out side chips aren't as stable so also 1.5-2.0ghz seems the best trade off for this variance.
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From what I've read about the CPU and the archetecture the processor should run 2.5Ghz I dunno at what voltage. Also can handle 64gb memory and 2gb ddr2. Personally I'd never run the CPU to 2.5Ghz seeing how that'd result in about 1.75x the amount of Mv's the chip is getting at stock and no internal cooler.
They designed the CPU to run at 2.5Ghz btw. But a phone doesn't need to hit that.. a laptop yeah. Tablet maybe? A phone, no, to small. Also not every phone will hit the same overclock no two dies are the same. The closer you get to the center of the silicon the more stable chip. The very out side chips aren't as stable so also 1.5-2.0ghz seems the best trade off for this variance.
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Very true, my Xooms tegra2 can hit 1.7GHz no problem whereas my Atrix never hit 1.3GHz without crashing. Both use the same chip set.
Hail Cobra!
Can you imagine 2.5GHz tho :O
I'd do it, run linpack, take screenshot and then never do it again lol
Hail Cobra!
As of right now 1.8GHz is extremely snappy, I would love a 2.0GHz module just to say my phone can clock the same as a desktop computer.
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They designed the CPU to run at 2.5Ghz btw. But a phone doesn't need to hit that.. a laptop yeah. Tablet maybe? A phone, no, to small. Also not every phone will hit the same overclock no two dies are the same. The closer you get to the center of the silicon the more stable chip. The very out side chips aren't as stable so also 1.5-2.0ghz seems the best trade off for this variance.
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My chip was from dead center of the silicon, the ultimate in stable overclockability. Other chips fought hard to reach the center of the silicon, but 'twas my chip that prevailed. Just thought you should know that.
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My chip was from dead center of the silicon, the ultimate in stable overclockability. Other chips fought hard to reach the center of the silicon, but 'twas my chip that prevailed. Just thought you should know that.
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Nuh uh, mine is the most overclockable in the whole wide world!
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Nuh uh, mine is the most overclockable in the whole wide world!
Hail Cobra!
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Listen here buddy, I will put my chip up against your chip ANY DAY OF THE WEEK
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Listen here buddy, I will put my chip up against your chip ANY DAY OF THE WEEK
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I just found out I have a stuck pixel... we'll have to postpone as I will be crying and madly swearing at the sky all week.
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I just found out I have a stuck pixel... we'll have to postpone as I will be crying and madly swearing at the sky all week.
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Shouldn't have run that LCD tester app huh? I've got dust under my screen right where the beats audio logo is, making it an imperfect circle. I think it adds character.
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Shouldn't have run that LCD tester app huh? I've got dust under my screen right where the beats audio logo is, making it an imperfect circle. I think it adds character.
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Every real Android device has one fault at least
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hate to ressurect an old thread.. but im running 1.8ghz currently
wondering.. what is a SAFE TEMP for these north american One X cpu's and batterys??
Running viper xl with elementalx. Seems sluggish at times was wondering how high you guys have overclocked without issues? Would love to have this build flawless
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Running viper xl with elementalx. Seems sluggish at times was wondering how high you guys have overclocked without issues? Would love to have this build flawless
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wrong forum and wrong section, this is for international one x.
tomascus said:
wrong forum and wrong section, this is for international one x.
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No it's not....
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Jdunca10 said:
Running viper xl with elementalx. Seems sluggish at times was wondering how high you guys have overclocked without issues? Would love to have this build flawless
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Trial and error all phones handle overclock speeds different. All phones are not created equal
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tomascus said:
wrong forum and wrong section, this is for international one x.
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You are in wrong thread, this is not international this is Evita
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Personally I wouldnt go over 1.7 or 1.8
-Sugardaddy
Like overclocking a pc. Trial and error. Small increments. Pay close attention to heat as damage can be done with heat output before the phone actually becomes unstable.
On a side note, overclocking yields very little, if any at all, real world performance increase and can be dangerous if you aren't too sure what you're doing.
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Haha, sorry guys.
Can't tell the difference on XDA app
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Like overclocking a pc. Trial and error. Small increments. Pay close attention to heat as damage can be done with heat output before the phone actually becomes unstable.
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Phone monitors temperature, and will shut itself off well before a temp is reached that can cause damage.
That said, anyone asking "what is a safe overclock" obviously does not understand the fundamental concept of overclocking; and probably should not be doing it at all, without further research and learning.
By definition, every individual CPU is capable of a different overclock. Trial and error is the only way, as exad mentioned. Raise the clock speed slightly, then test for stability. Repeat until instability is observed, or until the desired clock speed is achieved.
Internal Tempurature monitoring is never ever something to rely on. I would still pay close attention to heat output. Better to be safe than sorry I always say.
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