Related
So guys,I might have a chance to exchange my Desire HD for a Sensation(Plus some money of course),but I want to be sure before I set my eyes on the Sensation only.
To help me choose,could someone do some benchmarks for me?By benchmarks,I don't want stuff with stock rom or stock CPU speeds,but I mean some heavy benchmarking with full dual-core support(Mike's way or anyone else's),full CPU overclock(nothing less than 1.7GHz-Not even 2GHz would damage anyone's phone during ONE benchmark),GPU overclock(I read it's been done in some kernels-Wasn't possible on older Snapdragons) and generally everything that boosts performance.That would be my daily setup(Yes,I'm that mad ) and,also owning a Galaxy S 2,I won't be easily surprised.
So,the benchmarks I'd like to see are:
-Linpack's multi-thread test
-Nenamark 1 }I'd prefer Nenamark 2 but anyway.
-Nenamark 2 }
-CFBench
-Smartbench 2011
-Antutu benchmark
-Quadrant benchmark
If you could post your setup(Rom,CPU speed,GPU speed etc),I'd be deeply grateful too.
Many thanks in advance,I hope I'll be joining you soon.
Well I get 2500 normally on default CPU and GPU on android revolution hd .
Quaderent
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
Just one thing: current overclock only works for one core. So what you'll see won't be the actual performance
¤Violets are red,
Roses are blue,
Wait, what?
I have no idea what I'm saying,
But you lost the game¤
austendale9 said:
Well I get 2500 normally on default CPU and GPU on android revolution hd .
Quaderent
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well,I clearly stated I do not care about stock settings that much but thanks for replying anyway.
idavid_ said:
Just one thing: current overclock only works for one core. So what you'll see won't be the actual performance
¤Violets are red,
Roses are blue,
Wait, what?
I have no idea what I'm saying,
But you lost the game¤
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes,I read about that,but I care more about graphics this time,as that was what disappointed me with my past HTC devices and made me switch to Samsung.Qualcomm's CPUs were always really good,no doubt about that so I don't exactly care about that.Synthetic benchmarks also don't mean ****,that's why specific benchmarks like Nenamark for GPU and Linpack for CPU are higher in my priority list.Also,in Smartbench,I care more about the gaming index score.
Thanks for pointing it out anyway.
Here are some benchmarks using Faux's 0.1.0 kernel at 1.7 min/Max and melvins beast rom.
Sent from my Sensation 4G
skyhigh2004 said:
Here are some benchmarks using Faux's 0.1.0 kernel at 1.7 min/Max and melvins beast rom.
Sent from my Sensation 4G
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nice.. I need to do that
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
skyhigh2004 said:
Here are some benchmarks using Faux's 0.1.0 kernel at 1.7 min/Max and melvins beast rom.
Sent from my Sensation 4G
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
180ish Linpack?Holy shiznit.That makes me wanna see both cores enabled.
Also holy shiznit because I forgot to mention CFBench.Thanks for that too skyhigh2004!
austendale9 said:
Nice.. I need to do that
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes my friend,you do.These phones(Sensation,Galaxy S 2) are very far from their true potential at stock.You should see my Galaxy S 2 stock vs my Galaxy S 2 running VillainRom and Ninphetamine kernel @1.6GHz.Night and day.And,unlike HTC,Samsung does a good job at not crippling their phones too much.
tolis626 said:
180ish Linpack?Holy shiznit.That makes me wanna see both cores enabled.
Also holy shiznit because I forgot to mention CFBench.Thanks for that too skyhigh2004!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah that linpack was crazy high lol, ranked 173 overall lol.
Sent from my Sensation 4G
Everything is stock , no overclocking or anything like that
Is that a surprise? isn't sensation better than Nexus? or am i wrong?
Benchmark tests don't always tell the truth.
Tired of those benchmark noobs.
ok, forget the benchmark...
I tried a galaxy nexus...is very very very laggy, is not even smooth or fast...
our sensation is the best smartphone of the dual core generation (we are switching now on quad generation), better than sgs2 too!....
throcker said:
our sensation is the best smartphone of the dual core generation (we are switching now on quad generation), better than sgs2 too!....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Snapdragon S4 based phones disagree
Pikabat I axpected more from you =\ as you can see in the benchmark the nexus have much better CPU (the blue stat) and sensation only have better I/o (the green one) which is obvious why... So no, sensation isn't faster...
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA
k0zmic said:
The Snapdragon S4 based phones disagree
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not saying that is the best dual core XD is just the best of the dual generation, (2011 production)...obviously now are coming out more performant cpu, but I'm talking about the 2011 phones...
throcker said:
I'm not saying that is the best dual core XD is just the best of the dual generation, (2011 production)...obviously now are coming out more performant cpu, but I'm talking about the 2011 phones...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Best dual core phone, in your opinion
It's not a fact.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
throcker said:
ok, forget the benchmark...
I tried a galaxy nexus...is very very very laggy, is not even smooth or fast...
..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When did you use a Galaxy Nexus? It's never been laggy.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
this thread is so lol
first of all 2700 is low
second of all, that quadrant graph has not been updated since they added dual/quad core support
so thats galaxy nexus running 1 core test
check my screenshot for some sensation power, 1512mhz gets 3700 points
was with openSensation btw
My phone just sucks in benchmarks . Quadrant cant get over 3000 mark. Antutu usaly 6800+ on 1.5 ghz. But no lag in programs and in the interface, but seeing this score im thinking something is not ok with it.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
Lmao... I have bolth Sensation (my wife's) and the SGS 2.. and yes the pyramid is a good phone. It lacks a good bit in 3D performance ..
I know the 2 devices have the same S3 chip set but Sammy definitely did better implementing it.. Though I tend to not trust quadrant I score over 3200 with no overclock on my SGS 2.. just saying .. not to mention my buddy has a GNex and that shiz is fast...
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA
On ics 3D performance is deem good on sensation. Gta 3 max setting = no lag
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
FreakyDR said:
Pikabat I axpected more from you =\ as you can see in the benchmark the nexus have much better CPU (the blue stat) and sensation only have better I/o (the green one) which is obvious why... So no, sensation isn't faster...
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry to disappoint you bro
Believe it or not I prefer higher I/O because I deal with large file transfers.
Benchmark may not be accurate 100% but I used both devices and Sensation is faster. For me anyways
Pikabat said:
Sorry to disappoint you bro
Believe it or not I prefer higher I/O because I deal with large file transfers.
Benchmark may not be accurate 100% but I used both devices and Sensation is faster. For me anyways
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its inflation. Quadrant is notorious for this. R/RW speed between the current devicesis pretty much the same, especially when they are all on custom ext4 partitions .. Hence why you can run 4 benchmarks and get 4 different scores .. notice the CPU and graphics numbers don't really flux to much...
Hate to break it to you bro. But the Sensation will never be faster than a GNex or any SGS 2 version. Don't get me wrong I love the device. But it is what it is..
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA
throcker said:
ok, forget the benchmark...
I tried a galaxy nexus...is very very very laggy, is not even smooth or fast...
our sensation is the best smartphone of the dual core generation (we are switching now on quad generation), better than sgs2 too!....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol. My brother has a galaxy nexus and it's not how you describe. It's pretty fast and very smooth.
I m from europe but galaxy nexus what is in usa that lte version is lagy like hell. For many peopls
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
Who gives a F**k.
We have what we have, be happy! Its not about the size of your e-penis, its the fleshy one that counts.
Enjoy
you all realize that quadrant is only good for comparing devices with the same screen resolution, right?
The Gnex is running at a much higher resolution and becuase of that the scores will be lower in Quadrant.
Quadrant runs at the phones native resolution so the gnex has to work harder... I cant believe people still use this as their proof....
Hey guys! Is there a Ice Cream Sandwich custom Kernel that's 1200 MHz??? I am sick and tired of my phone burning up! Please help! Or do I have to go back to stock Gingerbread to get 1200 MHz??? Thanks!
Sent from my Sensation 4G using xda premium
Try Opensensation! todays build! Most bugs are fixed. Clocked at 1000 but u can change that in settings courtesy of cm9
But is there a dev that support 1200 ics kernel???
Sent from my Sensation 4G using xda premium
jalyn02 said:
But is there a dev that support 1200 ics kernel???
Sent from my Sensation 4G using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
use setCPU lower it down to 1.2
Longevite said:
use setCPU lower it down to 1.2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, but this I know. I want to know if there are any around without having to use third party apps to clock it. You guys mean to tell me there is no T-Mobile dev kernels that's clocked to 1200 MHz???
Sent from my Sensation 4G using xda premium
FWIW the manufacturer actually rates the Qualcomm 8260 as a 1.5 GHz processor..so technically HTC just underclocks it. 1.5 is perfectly normal, although I am a little concerned as well because I noticed my finger felt on fire the screen was so hot earlier today. Your best bet at this point might be stock, OC/UV, or bust sadly
Sent from my Sensation 4G using XDA
jalyn02 said:
Thanks, but this I know. I want to know if there are any around without having to use third party apps to clock it. You guys mean to tell me there is no T-Mobile dev kernels that's clocked to 1200 MHz???
Sent from my Sensation 4G using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well if you really don't want third party apps then just install kernel via aroma installer and select something around 1200MHz I know you can at least do that with bricked kernel
Sent from my sensational sensation 4g
not really the answer you are looking for, but I just want to tell you that it makes no difference whether you underclock it to 1ghz yourself or if the original kernel is set at 1ghz. They will both consume the same amount of power. I think the best way to approach this is to underclock it yourself to 1ghz and UNDERVOLT with system tuner. my sensation is stable at 1.02ghz @ 937.50mV
Thanks guys for all of your help. I just went back to Gingerbread and I guess i'll just have to wait until official ICS...again, thanks.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
jalyn02 said:
Thanks guys for all of your help. I just went back to Gingerbread and I guess i'll just have to wait until official ICS...again, thanks.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's much more of a hassle to go back to gb than any of the simple options provided above, but I guess to each his own... :facepalm:
Sent from my sensational sensation 4g
Sorry for a late reply, but ARHD6.6.3 has an option to run the stock (1.2ghz) kernel!!
Hey guys,
Had a question regarding overclocking. I have root n installed setCPU. The max limit is 1500Mhz. However with max settings the performance is the same. Is there a way to go above this limit with root + stock Rom?
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
Do you really need to overclock it? It's the most powerful phone out there, with a processor that is ridiculously fast as is. What do you expect to get out of overclocking?
I am jus looking to see the phone operate at max capabilities. And also the responsiveness is really good after setting it to max values currently so just a bit of curiosity as to how far can I stretch the limit of the phone
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
Have you tried the dual core mod? I have noticed an increase in responsiveness after flashing it. Right up your alley methinks.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
FYI
Until we get custom kernel overclocking isn't really an option even with the mode that OC's you to 1.8ghz there's little to no difference. Cheers.
This may be off topic but why 1.8? Was that value chosen arbitrarily?
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
The overclock speed is determined by what voltage we can get the CPU up to safely without burning it.
1809mhz (1.809ghz) is the fastest we can go right now though this could easily change with the kernel source.
And 1.8 does feel faster, but it really isn't necessary. I haven't come acorss something yet that makes this phone skip a beat.
Yes but how did you decide that this was a safe value? Is it from stress testing and monitoring the temperature? Or is it like in the HTC Aria where the CPU in the phone was actually spec'ed to run 200Mhz higher than what the phone shipped with? Or something else?
fluxgfx said:
FYI
Until we get custom kernel overclocking isn't really an option even with the mode that OC's you to 1.8ghz there's little to no difference. Cheers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Little to no difference? It's either overclocked or not. The heat parameters are one thing but it is overclocked.
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda premium
From what I've read about the CPU and the archetecture the processor should run 2.5Ghz I dunno at what voltage. Also can handle 64gb memory and 2gb ddr2. Personally I'd never run the CPU to 2.5Ghz seeing how that'd result in about 1.75x the amount of Mv's the chip is getting at stock and no internal cooler.
They designed the CPU to run at 2.5Ghz btw. But a phone doesn't need to hit that.. a laptop yeah. Tablet maybe? A phone, no, to small. Also not every phone will hit the same overclock no two dies are the same. The closer you get to the center of the silicon the more stable chip. The very out side chips aren't as stable so also 1.5-2.0ghz seems the best trade off for this variance.
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda premium
dkirchik said:
From what I've read about the CPU and the archetecture the processor should run 2.5Ghz I dunno at what voltage. Also can handle 64gb memory and 2gb ddr2. Personally I'd never run the CPU to 2.5Ghz seeing how that'd result in about 1.75x the amount of Mv's the chip is getting at stock and no internal cooler.
They designed the CPU to run at 2.5Ghz btw. But a phone doesn't need to hit that.. a laptop yeah. Tablet maybe? A phone, no, to small. Also not every phone will hit the same overclock no two dies are the same. The closer you get to the center of the silicon the more stable chip. The very out side chips aren't as stable so also 1.5-2.0ghz seems the best trade off for this variance.
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Very true, my Xooms tegra2 can hit 1.7GHz no problem whereas my Atrix never hit 1.3GHz without crashing. Both use the same chip set.
Hail Cobra!
Can you imagine 2.5GHz tho :O
I'd do it, run linpack, take screenshot and then never do it again lol
Hail Cobra!
As of right now 1.8GHz is extremely snappy, I would love a 2.0GHz module just to say my phone can clock the same as a desktop computer.
dkirchik said:
They designed the CPU to run at 2.5Ghz btw. But a phone doesn't need to hit that.. a laptop yeah. Tablet maybe? A phone, no, to small. Also not every phone will hit the same overclock no two dies are the same. The closer you get to the center of the silicon the more stable chip. The very out side chips aren't as stable so also 1.5-2.0ghz seems the best trade off for this variance.
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My chip was from dead center of the silicon, the ultimate in stable overclockability. Other chips fought hard to reach the center of the silicon, but 'twas my chip that prevailed. Just thought you should know that.
_MetalHead_ said:
My chip was from dead center of the silicon, the ultimate in stable overclockability. Other chips fought hard to reach the center of the silicon, but 'twas my chip that prevailed. Just thought you should know that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nuh uh, mine is the most overclockable in the whole wide world!
Hail Cobra!
ChongoDroid said:
Nuh uh, mine is the most overclockable in the whole wide world!
Hail Cobra!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Listen here buddy, I will put my chip up against your chip ANY DAY OF THE WEEK
_MetalHead_ said:
Listen here buddy, I will put my chip up against your chip ANY DAY OF THE WEEK
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just found out I have a stuck pixel... we'll have to postpone as I will be crying and madly swearing at the sky all week.
Sent from my Xoom using xda premium
ChongoDroid said:
I just found out I have a stuck pixel... we'll have to postpone as I will be crying and madly swearing at the sky all week.
Sent from my Xoom using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Shouldn't have run that LCD tester app huh? I've got dust under my screen right where the beats audio logo is, making it an imperfect circle. I think it adds character.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
ECEXCURSION said:
Shouldn't have run that LCD tester app huh? I've got dust under my screen right where the beats audio logo is, making it an imperfect circle. I think it adds character.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Every real Android device has one fault at least
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
hate to ressurect an old thread.. but im running 1.8ghz currently
wondering.. what is a SAFE TEMP for these north american One X cpu's and batterys??
I was getting close to 12000 on antutu on cm10 with no overclock, now I'm getting around 10000 on king kang m1 with 2ghz overclock.
Any ideas? Anyone else see this ?
Sent from my HTC One X+ using xda app-developers app
Benchmarks.Dont.Mean.S H I T
Yes, I know the mantra, but how can the benchmarks slow down with an overclock?
Sent from my HTC One X+ using xda app-developers app
nespid said:
Yes, I know the mantra, but how can the benchmarks slow down with an overclock?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
jags_the1 said:
Benchmarks.Dont.Mean.S H I T
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my VENOMized HoxL
Maybe because king kang has more to it.. something bare bones (cm10) will usually be faster
Benchmarks also mean nothing for phones. As long as it runs fast, why does it matter?
nespid said:
I was getting close to 12000 on antutu on cm10 with no overclock, now I'm getting around 10000 on king kang m1 with 2ghz overclock.
Any ideas? Anyone else see this ?
Sent from my HTC One X+ using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've read somewhere clocking the phone too high can be counter productive and reduce performance like you see
Slithered from my HTC One X+
jags_the1 said:
Benchmarks.Dont.Mean.S H I T
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
THANK YOU! This thread has no point.
Sent from my HTC One XL using Tapatalk 2
superchilpil said:
I've read somewhere clocking the phone too high can be counter productive and reduce performance like you see
Slithered from my HTC One X+
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I wanna understand why that is?
Sent from my HTC One X+ using xda app-developers app
absolutelygrim said:
Maybe because king kang has more to it.. something bare bones (cm10) will usually be faster
Benchmarks also mean nothing for phones. As long as it runs fast, why does it matter?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah, I thought the same thing, that KK is all hopped up and feature rich with background processes, but I score almost identical scores with processor scaled back to stock 1.5 ghz.
And I know, I read it a millions times a day that benchmarks don't mean anything, but I like to have something quantifiable that the phone is executing instructions faster and not just a placebo effect because I'm overclocked.
I have all of my other devices overclocked, and they all score better on benchmarks. I've come across kernels that score lower and run smoother than overclocked kernels, but this is the first time I've encountered lower scores with an overclock.
In any event, like I asked in my initial post, I'm wondering how the overclock can garner the lower scores.
If you feel this thread has no point, you're free to not comment, and return to the questions forum.
Otherwise, I would like to discuss how overclocking produces slower benchmarks.
nespid said:
Yeah, I wanna understand why that is?
Sent from my HTC One X+ using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because some devices cant run at a higher clock, that's why they are set at a stable speed across all CPUs
Try 1800, see if it improves. If so then you have a device with a weak CPU.
Slithered from my HTC One X+
Most likely tripping thermal switches in cpu or gpu and it auto scales down to prevent three mile island in your hand.
If you have a heavy thick case on phone expect worse results.
WR
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda app-developers app
This is XDA, we don't run off of tangable, quantifiable data; we run off of placebo. Sorta like how aznrice's mods got so popular.
Anywho, it's probably not stable at those speeds so it's throttling during the benchmark. As said above role it back a tad and see what happens.
Sent from my HTC One XL
Ohhhh yeah. That's right. I was looking at another oc kernel and there were some adb shell commands to alter thermald.conf to "stick" the oc at higher speeds.
Sent from my HTC One X+ using xda app-developers app
superchilpil said:
Because some devices cant run at a higher clock, that's why they are set at a stable speed across all CPUs
Try 1800, see if it improves. If so then you have a device with a weak CPU.
Slithered from my HTC One X+
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In the past, I've just seen reboots if the frequency is too high. The I haven't had any reboots at 2 ghz. I'll try running at different frequencies shortly. Driving home ATM.
Edit: To clear, I was not posting while driving. I am about to drive.
Sent from my HTC One X+ using xda app-developers app
This truely is the worst phone to txt and drive with. Awkward to hold with one hand and impossible to type with without looking at the screen.
I used to be able to type full paragraphs on my Aria...
Sent from my HTC One XL
WarRaven said:
Most likely tripping thermal switches in cpu or gpu and it auto scales down to prevent three mile island in your hand.
If you have a heavy thick case on phone expect worse results.
WR
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is likely what's happening.
Not familiar with CM10, but if there's a file /etc/thermald.conf you can raise the thresholds. But just do it a bit, the thermal limits are there to protect your phone from overheating.
Hmmm.. it only started running at the other frequency when I dialed them back. Could cpu spy not be reporting accurately?
Sent from my HTC One X+ using xda app-developers app
ECEXCURSION said:
This truely is the worst phone to txt and drive with. Awkward to hold with one hand and impossible to type with without looking at the screen.
I used to be able to type full paragraphs on my Aria...
Sent from my HTC One XL
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've never had a keyboard-less phone that I could type accurately without looking.
Sent from my HTC One X+ using xda app-developers app
Cpu spy is wrong in this case.
WR
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda app-developers app