So I went into Best Buy yesterday and wanted to see if they had a G2 to play with. I've noticed that there cell phone sales presence has become much more prevalent lately, but I hadn't dealt with any of the salesmen at this point.
I'll say as a side note, that the salespeople at T-Mobile stores have generally been helpful and informative. Unfortunately, few in my area have a live G2.
Within seconds of getting over to the counter, strong cologne alerted me to the presence of the salesman before the **** eating grin.
I asked if he had a live G2 or a Vibrant, and he had neither. I mentioned that I had done a lot of research and mostly wanted a little more face time with each phone prior to buying. I brought up Android 2.2 as a major consideration for me and the salesman very quickly told me "Oh, you didn't hear? Froyo is out now for the Vibrant. My phone downloaded it this morning (10/15)."
"Really? You have Froyo on your Vibrant? As of this morning?" I asked.
"Yup, I got the update this morning, it's awesome."
At this point, his cohort had come by. The competing fogs of Aqua di Gio and Hollister California were starting to make my eyes water. I can only assume the second monkey's fake sky blue contact lenses were there to protect his eyes from the flammable air.
"So I overheard you asking about Froyo on the Vibrant? He just got it on his phone this morning. It really screams on the Vibrant's dual core CPU." said monkey number two.
"Well," I said, "would you mind if I took a look at your phone then? See how Android is?"
"Sure, go for it!" said monkey number one.
Opened the browser, went to streetfire.net, and pulled up a Top Gear video, something that I know works on the G2 and displays the little Flash alert pane on the Vibrant. Shockingly, the video didn't play.
"So how's the battery holding up for you?" I asked.
"Oh, it's awesome. I haven't charged it for a day and a half and it's still at 35%. An that's with people playing with it at the store all day long."
"Wow, that's pretty amazing. I think I'll sleep on it, but maybe I'll be by tomorrow" (at this point I hadn't heard about the Froyo push in Norway and wanted to learn more)
"Cool, can I give you a call tomorrow to follow up?"
"Sure" (I proceeded to give him my @home number so he could sit there and leave voicemails all day if he wanted)
I really enjoyed how the two of them could just stand there lying their asses off after I told them I had done a significant amount of research already.
Anyway, enjoy; I found it amusing.
Yeah, that's corporate business for ya. People will do whatever they have to just to make a sale. Well, most people at least. But I agree, it's hilarious! For two reasons:
1.) Dual core? Really?! That isn't on any smart phone yet.
2.) For someone to boldly lie to their customers face is just ridiculous and shows ya that their are actually people out there that buy this crap.
I mean, would you constantly lie to people if you knew that your lies wouldn't be believed? I wouldn't. So that goes to show you how gullible some people are and how much they actually need to you the great searching tools that the internet has given us.
They probably went from alphabetizing dvd's to selling phones in a week.
I hope you made no mention of xda. For our sakes.
good day.
Wow, I went to future shop( its like best buy but Canadian) I asked for the HTC desire and he didn't even know what it was, plus it was right behind him LOL
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(If this is the wrong place for this, Mods feel free to close, move or delete it.
It really only pertains to the Inspire 4G because I own and have modified one.)
It happened last night. My mom has decided that, finally, she wanted a smartphone. Not only a smartphone, but she had done some research and asked me what I thought about the HTC Aria and the LG Pheonix. I told her that the Aria is basically discontinued, so no need in getting that one; and the Pheonix, I didn't know enough about. She had read online that either phone was a good first-time, smartphone to have.
So we went to the AT&T store and looked around, found a Pheonix, messed around with it and I decided sure...it would be a great phone for my mom. For her needs it would do perfectly and well hell, it was running 2.2.1. (of course, I was already running through my mind how to root it and get into it.. )
The amusing part of the whole thing was that the saleslady came over and began to tell us the most off the wall stuff about Android. Of course, I had just got off work and didn't look as smart as I am, so I listened and waited patiently for her spiel...rolling my eyes at the appropriate time, sighing at the right moments and all that.
I noticed she (the saleslady) was getting irritated with me, when especially my mom would look over at me questioningly, as the saleslady would state the capabilities of the phone and I would nod yes or shake my head no.
I could tell the saleslady began to question her confidence at trying to make the sale and finally I said to her, "look we've already decided to get this phone. Its perfect for what she (my mom) needs."
So we went to the counter to finalize the deal and of course, the saleslady started in on "how you should consider getting the 2gb data plan, as with android its always on the internet checking for updates." "There's a lot of settings which are hard to turn off, so it's just easier to get the bigger plan."
I just looked at her..."I can turn them off." Stated simply...with no arrogance or sarcasm intended or noted. She looked at me and paused for a moment; then continued on like I hadn't said anything. She was trying really hard to make this sale and she kept on and on to the point I was getting irritated with her and said,
"look, by midnight tonight I can have that phone turned inside out and backwards...I know what it can do and I'm pretty sure I know its capabilities. Believe me when I say I can turn off the mobile data."
By then she was looking at me with a kinda of stunned expression, like nobody had ever challenged her. Probably didn't make it any better that there were other sales associates and customers standing around.
So she tried a different approach...by trying to sale my mom a case and car charger. I said mom, you can get one cheaper on line...to which the sales lady, in a desperate attempt, stated "you will void your warrenty using 3rd party chargers on your phone."
To which, I again, sighed and said with no malice or harm intended "no...it will void the warrenty if we fry the phone and you can prove we used a 3rd party charger."
By that time, I looked around and several of the other customers were watching our exchange, because it went back and forth for several minutes, like I was some kind of God or even a Demon. I dunno.
I could tell she was rattled and if nothing else I gave her a little learning not to assume that everybody who comes through the door is clueless. Maybe I was an ass/jerk but that really wasn't my intentions.
Your My Hero!
Haha, I hate listening to salespeople who have basically no clue what they are talking about and sometimes i throw out questions that I know for a fact that they cannot answer.
And wow, who would actually say using a third party charger will void your warranty... personally I would be embarrassed just to say that in my head.
Cool. Story. Bro.
ThEiiNoCeNT said:
Your My Hero!
Haha, I hate listening to salespeople who have basically no clue what they are talking about and sometimes i throw out questions that I know for a fact that they cannot answer.
And wow, who would actually say using a third party charger will void your warranty... personally I would be embarrassed just to say that in my head.
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I had heard that before, but I don't know how they could prove it.
Nice one. Thanks for starting my day with a smile.
I can recall when I went to look for Atrix how the salesperson was telling some other customer that Inspire was a dual core and had 1 GB RAM. I was like with a "?" on my face and told him, it didn't, and that he was confused between Atrix and Inspire specs.
i had the same type of exchange when i went in for my inspire. I think they should really inform the employees a little better, or at least a little!
Sales ppl suck. I always tell them, Nicely but firmly. "Thank you, but I will inform you when I am ready to purchase." If they continue I let them know that I have things in hand and am not requesting thier service at this time.
It usually works. Sometimes I have to tell them, Please excuse us, but I know more about electronics then you and do not apprecaite your miscomunication.
tweaked said:
Sales ppl suck. I always tell them, Nicely but firmly. "Thank you, but I will inform you when I am ready to purchase." If they continue I let them know that I have things in hand and am not requesting thier service at this time.
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Yep, that's a prime example between salespersons that work on commission, and those that do not.
Rofl- ya I usually shut them dudes up real quick. Start talking about bootloaders and kernels, they'll back off
di11igaf said:
Rofl- ya I usually shut them dudes up real quick. Start talking about bootloaders and kernels, they'll back off
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Funny story but remember the sales people need to make commission so they will try anything to make a sale. And they don't get the proper training as these phones are released I know because I used to be a sales rep for at&t therefore they look stupid to phone tech savvy people.
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Bootloader.... what you call my momma?
droe411 said:
Bootloader.... what you call my momma?
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Now that's funny, I don't care who you are!
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I do have to say that using a third party charger is not the best move. It won't void your warranty ( I work for ATT Corp.) but it does have a habit of destroying phones.
I usually say to people that you wouldn't want to run cheap wiring in your house so why would run cheap wiring from your car to your phone and risk frying both for something that is at most 20 bucks cheaper.
But that's just my 2cents.
There are differences in usb cables..... My wifes old Xperia X10 would burn up if I plugged in my Inspire's cable. Literally high temps and reboot.....
This is awesome! I feel the same exact way every time I go into that store. Last time I went in to upgrade my iPhone 3GS and I went in with it jailbroken and modded and themed to hell and the guy saw it and was like "WOAH! THATS SO COOL! WHAT IS THAT?" i told him it was an app as he proceeded to hand me the iPhone 4 lol
veritas2884 said:
I do have to say that using a third party charger is not the best move. It won't void your warranty ( I work for ATT Corp.) but it does have a habit of destroying phones.
I usually say to people that you wouldn't want to run cheap wiring in your house so why would run cheap wiring from your car to your phone and risk frying both for something that is at most 20 bucks cheaper.
But that's just my 2cents.
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Heh...well she shouldn't have assumed; I never stated we were ordering a 3rd party charger. I could have ordered a proprietary charger online...and perhaps a better price.
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Rofl- ya I usually shut them dudes up real quick. Start talking about bootloaders and kernels, they'll back off
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+1 i bought an inspire may 23rd and since then my aunt, uncle, other aunt, and my father have bought the same phone. I was with them each sale, what a major mindnumbing experience.. Radioshack was worse though, at best go to best buy, haven't had any problems with them and they do price match...
The reps at my store are actually pretty cool. When I went to get my inspire,the only thing he said was "if you want eye candy,sturdyness,great support and cool customization's then the inspire is for you. If you want better battery life or a future proof phone,then I'd go for the attic,but I've learned the consumer usually knows what they want if they walk in,and go straight for the high end phones" those were the exact words lol. Then i told him I would flash a ROM on the inspire to improve battery life and he was like yeah,that would work too and told me how he did the same with his captivated. The. Got his store manager to whip out his inspire,to show me the custom ROM he was running LOL. The reps here are all cool and never push for you to get something different then what you laid eyes on when you walked in the store. But its different with the Verizon store here. Every time I go in to pay my laptop bill they always trying to get me to add a line,and then i tell them how I would only consider there incredible 2,but wouldn't get it due to boot loaders being locked,and they would be like huh? So I'd be like,uhh I wouldn't be able to hack it. And they a rep said "well ya know,Verizon phones usually come with the best software period and no hack/mod will make it any better" I looked around like,umm you do know verizon owns the worst phone ever....the Droid x,rite? They just laughed and I left. But anyways,at&t here is awsome
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I do have to say that using a third party charger is not the best move. It won't void your warranty ( I work for ATT Corp.) but it does have a habit of destroying phones.
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If the charger doesn't have HTC written all over it, it's a 3rd party charger. The one I bought from AT&T has a USB port on it and the AT&T deathstar glows when plugged in. I do believe that's a "3rd party" charger.
There may be quality differences in construction of chargers but they're not that complicated since the phone is actually doing all the charging and battery monitoring.
Well I had my phone stolen last night gutted to say the least. I used PlanB to track it down, but it went straight to the mafia district here in Vietnam! Trust me that's a place you don't want to be going at night, so I let it go!
Sadly the police here are a waste of time too, so that's bye-bye phone!
Luckily I guess there was nothing on the phone that I can't replace aside from my sms\txt messages but I can live without that. Everything else is backed up bar one or two recent photos. I hadn't even rooted it yet.
So I'm gonna be buying a new phone at the end of the month and now the dilemma is to replace with another sensation or look at the alternatives. EVO3D, maybe look at the galaxy but I'm not a real fan of Samsung, but it's a viable option.
Or see what else is coming REAL soon.
oh well some shopping to do I guess.
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Trust me that's a place you don't want to be going at night, so I let it go!
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So... go in the day with a gun?
Flippy125 said:
So... go in the day with a gun?
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...and leave in a body bag, or just plain disappear completely
as for getting a new phone, i recommend another sensation, as the prices have dropped just a bit...or get a janky POS phone to hold you of till nov/dec when the hercules or holiday come out
POST 420! too bad im at work
How exactly did it get stolen? Just curious...
Picked my pocket by two very cute girls who did a great distraction job on me, they walked into me and dropped some stuff. I stopped helped them pick it up and when I turned round I noticed a distinct lack of weight where phone had been. Realised what had happened immediately turned round to confront them only to see them climbing on a motorbike being ridden by another accomplice and take off sharpish!
Could've been worse just found out my CEO father in-law had his iphone snatched from his hand last evening as he was on the phone leaning against a wall. Two guys rode up, one jumped off pushed him and harrased him to grab the phone and rode off sharpish. Luckily he's not hurt.
PS the idea of taking a gun into mafia district is highly appealing, but just not worth it in the end. Outnumbered to say the least and as a westerner living here I'd be picked up within hours.
Friend of mine who's been here longer than me has lost 8 phones in 4years!
PPS ahhh 420... at the 420 in 'dam I miss them days...
I guess it would make sense to make all calls via a BT headset and keep the phone taped to your crotch or something.
GideonX said:
I guess it would make sense to make all calls via a BT headset and keep the phone taped to your crotch or something.
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Hahahahaha lol they might try to steal that aswell (the headset or ummm ur crotch ) lol jk
Damn Charlie robbed you...... Did those girl say.....me so horny, me luv you long time..... Haha
Sorry to hear that just goto mafia district and make a suicidal bomber vest with c4 and hold a grenade without the pin on the trigger and threaten everyone to surrender all the cellphones drugs and cash n weapons
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I heard vietnam is not a save country. Even for tourism. Their goverment should do something especially at the mafia area. We live in a melenium year, not 40s or 60s anymore!!
Sorry to hear what happen to you. And as for new phone, I think you definately not to use expensive phone over there. Better use plain old chip phone in such danger and high crime area.
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Damn Charlie robbed you...... Did those girl say.....me so horny, me luv you long time..... Haha
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That's just corny in this day and age.
TBH crime here isn't that bad and certainly no worse than London or other major cities I've been too. Majority of the time I feel pretty safe and as long as your aware of what's going on it's no biggie.
I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and got suckered by some fluttering eyes
but bonus time i bought the phone on my credit card (well paid off now) but means it's insured I had two days before it was out !!
This will probably be long a story so strap yourself in, it's going to be a bumpy ride.
My name is Ian, I have just turned 15 this Christmas and I have been in long term foster care for 8 years now and have been with the same family in the same village the whole time. I have 2 of the greatest friends I have ever had in my life. But for the past year I have begun to lose one of them to drugs. His name is Chris, his sister is called Eloise and I have been in love with her for the last three years I have known Chris. And for the past 4/5 months we have had been going out, now Eloise has anxiety and depression which I love about her because I wanted to impact her and help her to overcome these mental illnesses. I hate to see her cry so I always tried to make her smile by telling her funny stories or stupid jokes. Eloise's family do not have much money at the moment and her brother Chris used to joke about them being poor so to make Eloise smile I used to do this to but it really upset her which I was not aware of as I do not think before I speak. Things like this have been building up, me not being aware that I'm being rude towards her family when I'm trying to make her smile and tonight she broke up with me.
Recently it has been decided that I am to move foster homes as it is not working anymore and I'm not bored about leaving the family behind, I'm bothered about leaving my friends behind, they are the only people that get me and I don't want to leave Eloise behind either as my heart feels so connected to her still as we are still close friends. I cannot bring myself to leave all of this behind and I leave in a week.
Does anyone know what to do or has anyone gone through any similar situations and could give me some advice that would help me mentally as I feel like trash. I'm also a cutter so I may have to resort back to that if I'm not feeling better, I felt like I needed to get this out.
Thank you for reading this, if you read this all thank you. And if you can give any advice on how to cope through this then that would be very much appreciated thank you.
Well, it has come time to finally say good by to my beloved V20. I must say, there have been a lot of up's and down's with this phone. First when I bought the phone, I went into the purchase not knowing if we would ever get root, much less a custom ROM. I feel very greatful for @x86cpu for keeping us up to date and relevant with Leneage, @Omar-Avelar for the beautifully smooth kernel, @me2151 for bringing us root during Christmas via Dirty Santa while my little one was in the hospital post-op heart surgery. I'm sad to say goodbye to the V20 scene, but my poor phone has gone through enough, it has been dropped, stepped on, thrown by little one's hands, took a 40 foot falls from a roller-coaster, and just abused about as much as a phone can. Yes, I have rebuilt the phone multiple times, but it has finally take it last breath and the CPU has just about had it with all the pubg mobile it can take. I say farewell to those that are still on this endeavor and hope to see you in another forum.
Thank you all,
cmdmoto