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Best Buy Cell Phone Salesmen: Integrity Optional

So I went into Best Buy yesterday and wanted to see if they had a G2 to play with. I've noticed that there cell phone sales presence has become much more prevalent lately, but I hadn't dealt with any of the salesmen at this point.
I'll say as a side note, that the salespeople at T-Mobile stores have generally been helpful and informative. Unfortunately, few in my area have a live G2.
Within seconds of getting over to the counter, strong cologne alerted me to the presence of the salesman before the **** eating grin.
I asked if he had a live G2 or a Vibrant, and he had neither. I mentioned that I had done a lot of research and mostly wanted a little more face time with each phone prior to buying. I brought up Android 2.2 as a major consideration for me and the salesman very quickly told me "Oh, you didn't hear? Froyo is out now for the Vibrant. My phone downloaded it this morning (10/15)."
"Really? You have Froyo on your Vibrant? As of this morning?" I asked.
"Yup, I got the update this morning, it's awesome."
At this point, his cohort had come by. The competing fogs of Aqua di Gio and Hollister California were starting to make my eyes water. I can only assume the second monkey's fake sky blue contact lenses were there to protect his eyes from the flammable air.
"So I overheard you asking about Froyo on the Vibrant? He just got it on his phone this morning. It really screams on the Vibrant's dual core CPU." said monkey number two.
"Well," I said, "would you mind if I took a look at your phone then? See how Android is?"
"Sure, go for it!" said monkey number one.
Opened the browser, went to streetfire.net, and pulled up a Top Gear video, something that I know works on the G2 and displays the little Flash alert pane on the Vibrant. Shockingly, the video didn't play.
"So how's the battery holding up for you?" I asked.
"Oh, it's awesome. I haven't charged it for a day and a half and it's still at 35%. An that's with people playing with it at the store all day long."
"Wow, that's pretty amazing. I think I'll sleep on it, but maybe I'll be by tomorrow" (at this point I hadn't heard about the Froyo push in Norway and wanted to learn more)
"Cool, can I give you a call tomorrow to follow up?"
"Sure" (I proceeded to give him my @home number so he could sit there and leave voicemails all day if he wanted)
I really enjoyed how the two of them could just stand there lying their asses off after I told them I had done a significant amount of research already.
Anyway, enjoy; I found it amusing.

Yeah, that's corporate business for ya. People will do whatever they have to just to make a sale. Well, most people at least. But I agree, it's hilarious! For two reasons:
1.) Dual core? Really?! That isn't on any smart phone yet.
2.) For someone to boldly lie to their customers face is just ridiculous and shows ya that their are actually people out there that buy this crap.
I mean, would you constantly lie to people if you knew that your lies wouldn't be believed? I wouldn't. So that goes to show you how gullible some people are and how much they actually need to you the great searching tools that the internet has given us.

They probably went from alphabetizing dvd's to selling phones in a week.
I hope you made no mention of xda. For our sakes.
good day.

Wow, I went to future shop( its like best buy but Canadian) I asked for the HTC desire and he didn't even know what it was, plus it was right behind him LOL
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I'm returning my MT4G for the 6th time...

Just kidding, the phone is great. Merry Christmas all!

Seriously, some of the people on here are fvckin retarded.

Sorry, but I have to totally disagree with you. When you pay $300+ for a phone you better be getting one that isn't defective or full of issues. Luckily the only issue I've experienced on mine is the creaking buttons, and they've been freaking loud as hell. Not just something you barely hear, it's just flat out f'n annoying. No way in hell should something like that have ever passed HTC's QC process. If you're fine with buttons that make noise every time you press on them, then good for you.
Merry Christmas.

dustrho said:
Sorry, but I have to totally disagree with you. When you pay $300+ for a phone you better be getting one that isn't defective or full of issues. Luckily the only issue I've experienced on mine is the creaking buttons, and they've been freaking loud as hell. Not just something you barely hear, it's just flat out f'n annoying. No way in hell should something like that have ever passed HTC's QC process. If you're fine with buttons that make noise every time you press on them, then good for you.
Merry Christmas.
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Mine hardly even make a noise.
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Arcadia310 said:
What's wrong with people on these forums? I bet if half of you never read any forums you wouldn't have returned your phones nearly as many times as you have. Sure, I can understand if your screen looks terrible, but constantly exchanging your phone because the FFC is off by 1 millimeter is ridiculous.
So many people here have returned their phone 5+ times, what's the point! If you really have to return it 5 times you might as well get a dumb phone because you'll never be happy. Even if you get a good screen and everything is good, you might complain that an application you installed forced closed and you're going to return it. The **** people complain about is really annoying.
I've owned several android phones and I've NEVER had such a problem with any where I felt I had to exchange it 5+ times. myTouch Slide, perfect out of the box. Vibrant, perfect out of the box, even after I dropped it twice on concrete without a case. G2, perfect out of the box. MT4G, perfect out of the box! Yes my back button creaks a little but I can only hear it when I'm somewhere where it's completely silent, I mean not even a sound. Otherwise I can't hear it, ever.
With every phone I've had there's just been people complaining and complaining about the silliest things. If you have to go through 5+ phones then the issue is with you, not the phone. I've dropped my MT4G about 3 times without a case where the battery just flew out. Guess what, its still perfect! At a party last night some little kid came by and punched it out of my hand onto some rocks, battery flew out and everything but it's still running perfectly.
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Luckily you got a good MT4G out of the box, but some (many) weren't has lucky. And if you think they should only return their phone once and if it isn't a good screen either just settle for it because they are returning the phone too many times then you are mistaken. The place you need to put the blame is squarely on HTC and the QC of the out going phones. A phone with this magnitude of issues should not pass the QC. And the fact that people (and it's not just one or two people, it's tons of us) continually find issues with the phones points to an issue with the phone manufacturing process, not the consumers. I paid full price for this phone, I want a that phone to be free of manufacturing defects.

Magnitude of issues???? I have the SH screen and hardly think it is "defective" - my back button occasionally makes a creak, but not enough to warrant the trouble to return it. Should I have a real issue, I will warranty the phone. But to clog the system by returning your phone 3,4,5 times for a off center FFC or just trying to game the best display is ludicrous.

larryg2k3 said:
But to clog the system by returning your phone 3,4,5 times for a off center FFC or just trying to game the best display is ludicrous.
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Yeah, we're the problem here, not HTC. That totally makes sense. You know, since we're the ones shipping phones with defective buttons, off-centered FFCs and washed out displays.

Even more annoying are the people who come here to complaint about other people because they haven't been lucky enough to get a good one right out of the box. I'm on my third one...all with terrible washed out looking screens.
If you are happy with what you have why don't just enjoy it and stay out of the threads about the physical issues regarding this phone. Nobody is forcing you to read about it right? The simple remedy for you...stay away and save yourself from being annoyed.
Merry Christmas, champ!
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What surprises me is the one who started this thread. Great videos on his YouTube page that are helpful and informative, and then he starts a thread that is only going to start a heated discussion.
And to call people retarded for simply wanting a phone free of defects is total bullsh1t.
Happy New Year.

C'mon guys its Christmas! All I can say is, if ur happy with the phone you have right even with defects, keep it. If not return it and get a new one till your satisfied with the quality. Wat im really trying to say is, it all comes down to self preferences, cuz everyones opinion may not be the same. Some people expect there phones to be great quality because of wat they paid for.
And Some peepz dont give rats ass. As long there phones works. So there u go guys. Theres no sense to keep dis heated disscussion going on. No bashing before u end up being banned by the mods. Lol
Merry Christmas guys.

Ok yes I did return my phone because of the camera and screen because it was off pretty bad and the touch pad hardly ever worked. This phone the touch pad works great but it is not only worse on the ffc but now I'm having serious issues with connecting to the network. This is the first phone ive had where the issues bug me. All my other ones are perfect out of the box. So yes I will return it but when it works correctly yes I will keep it.
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how do i tell if the ffc is off center?
sorry to hijack.

blancoisgod said:
how do i tell if the ffc is off center?
sorry to hijack.
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Look at it, is it out of the middle of the hole? If not its off center. Simple.
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thanks.Yeah mine is off center.

jjjackson56 said:
Look at it, is it out of the middle of the hole? If not its off center. Simple.
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wrong. FFC off center means when you use the FFC and you have to tilt the hpone to get yo face in the center.
well... i guess a lot of people returned it because of that too..

Hmmm washed out screen, off center ffc, creaky buttons. Looks like POS HTC QC failed again, WTF did these phone even get though? Is HTC/TMo still denying it? Looks like ill hold on ordering MT4G but as everyday passes I do miss my HD2
BTW did anyone get to order MT4G via TMobile website? All I see is when I pick the device is with 2year contract with discount, I mean WTF do you order the phone and pay full price? They don't expect me to walk in to TMobile store to just buy a phone now do they? WTF even have online shopping then if you can't order that POS.
Also WTF is up with the plans? Last time I checked EM+ 500Talk unlimited text/web was $59.99 and now thats changed to 200MB/month and if you want unlimited web thats $30? WTF? I remember $29.99 for 500min, $10 for unlimited text, $20 for unlimited web. But now they want $79.99? All these bull**** makes me want to keep my TMo account suspended and move to Sprint.

HyperNode said:
Hmmm washed out screen, off center ffc, creaky buttons. Looks like POS HTC QC failed again, WTF did these phone even get though? Is HTC/TMo still denying it? Looks like ill hold on ordering MT4G but as everyday passes I do miss my HD2
BTW did anyone get to order MT4G via TMobile website? All I see is when I pick the device is with 2year contract with discount, I mean WTF do you order the phone and pay full price? They don't expect me to walk in to TMobile store to just buy a phone now do they? WTF even have online shopping then if you can't order that POS.
Also WTF is up with the plans? Last time I checked EM+ 500Talk unlimited text/web was $59.99 and now thats changed to 200MB/month and if you want unlimited web thats $30? WTF? I remember $29.99 for 500min, $10 for unlimited text, $20 for unlimited web. But now they want $79.99? All these bull**** makes me want to keep my TMo account suspended and move to Sprint.
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My phone has none of those problems. Go to Sprint then, I'm sure the Evo gets fantastic battery life. For the same plan on Sprint you pay $80 because of the $10 "data fee" they charge on all 4G devices.
HTC Glacier Running CyanogenMod 6.2

eunkipark92 said:
wrong. FFC off center means when you use the FFC and you have to tilt the hpone to get yo face in the center.
well... i guess a lot of people returned it because of that too..
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Right I understand that but usually that's a good sign that it will be aimed over your shoulder
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Arcadia310 said:
My phone has none of those problems. Go to Sprint then, I'm sure the Evo gets fantastic battery life. For the same plan on Sprint you pay $80 because of the $10 "data fee" they charge on all 4G devices.
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What are you TMobile-Fanboy? I was just pointing out there sneaky tactics, thats all. So level with me here so you can see what I see thus be enlightened with logic.
Before: Even More Plus Smartphone Unlimited Web - $19.99
After: Even More Plus Smartphone Unlimited Web - $39.99
So what can you see here? the price went up x2.
Alternative: Even More Plus webConnect® 200MB - $24.99
And what does this say? This is +$5 on old unlimited web plan with 200MB/month bandwidth cap.
Unless you think bandwidth is getting expensive, which is not the case as its going down. The only reason for them to do this is to milk it for whats it worth. Competition is a good thing to bad I can't say the same about actual Teleco/Cableco ISP MPLS.

HyperNode said:
What are you TMobile-Fanboy? I was just pointing out there sneaky tactics, thats all. So level with me here so you can see what I see thus be enlightened with logic.
Before: Even More Plus Smartphone Unlimited Web - $19.99
After: Even More Plus Smartphone Unlimited Web - $39.99
So what can you see here? the price went up x2.
Alternative: Even More Plus webConnect® 200MB - $24.99
And what does this say? This is +$5 on old unlimited web plan with 200MB/month bandwidth cap.
Unless you think bandwidth is getting expensive, which is not the case as its going down. The only reason for them to do this is to milk it for whats it worth. Competition is a good thing to bad I can't say the same about actual Teleco/Cableco ISP MPLS.
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Of course they charge more money for the data plan you want (HSPA+ 4G data network that is). They invested billions in a 4G network to MAKE money, not lose it.
My favorite part, "Unless you think bandwidth is getting expensive, which is not the case as its going down". Really? Who is REDUCING prices for their services on cell sites? I'm not even sure what went through your head when you posted that. Do you think all of the required equipment and man hours it took to install the equipment in T-Mobile's cell sites was free? Do you think the required data back haul to provide the 4G speeds is free? Maybe next time you think before just randomly typing complete BS on the website.

G2X well built

Saturday I took a chance and called local TMO store and asked if they had a g2x and the guy said yes but I have to come in and specifically ask to see it. So I did and I don't know what I was expecting but g2x is a solid phone.
I'm currently rolling w/ a Nexus One so I'm used to a phone feeling like a phone. When I held the G2x I was sold right then and there.I've played with my Wife's Galay S 4g, vibrant, captivate, and Epic; reason why I bring that up is because I was trying to decide whether to get g2x or GalaxyS2. If you ever held a motorola droid 1or2 or X the G2x feels like that. I wanted to throw that out there for ppl that were wondering. I'm gonna throw an otter box on that g2x and its gonna be a beast.

agreed!
the phone has a bulky(GOOD) feeling too it... i have owned mostly Samsung phone's and they all feel delicate/plastic like..... almost like if it drops its done for... this phone is almost like a solid piece of metal!

wondercoolguy said:
Saturday I took a chance and called local TMO store and asked if they had a g2x and the guy said yes but I have to come in and specifically ask to see it. So I did and I don't know what I was expecting but g2x is a solid phone.
I'm currently rolling w/ a Nexus One so I'm used to a phone feeling like a phone. When I held the G2x I was sold right then and there.I've played with my Wife's Galay S 4g, vibrant, captivate, and Epic; reason why I bring that up is because I was trying to decide whether to get g2x or GalaxyS2. If you ever held a motorola droid 1or2 or X the G2x feels like that. I wanted to throw that out there for ppl that were wondering. I'm gonna throw an otter box on that g2x and its gonna be a beast.
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I agree with you. I went into I T-mobile last Friday and played with their G2x, and was impressed with it's feel. I can't stand any of the Galaxy series phones because of their plasticy feel. One of the reasons I prefer HTC over the majority of brands is because their phones are built tough. I prefer a phone with some weight.
I feel like a little kid waiting for Santa Claus to come. I've been waiting for UPS to show up since 8am with my G2x.

WorldWide60 said:
I feel like a little kid waiting for Santa Claus to come. I've been waiting for UPS to show up since 8am with my G2x.
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Dang you I'm playing Mr. Patient because I know amazon, wirefly, or radio shack will throw the phone on sale for 199 or 149 with NO mail in rebates. I've been waiting since Oct for a phone to replace my beloved Nexus one whats a few more days AHHHHHH!

Just came back from a T-Mobile store. I have to say, this phone is VERY well built and VERY light.

Just got back from T Mobile store and after having played with a G2X for about a half an hour I am IMPRESSED!!!!!!!!!!!! Very Very solid built(felt as good or better than my Nexus One) This phone flies out of the box. I have a Vibrant which is rooted and has a custom rom and is running an OC 1.4ghz kernel and I thought it was fast but the G2X is just so smooth and fast!! Actually faster than my Oc Vibrant with no tweaking. It just feels so good in the hand and the weight to me is just perfet. I am to receive mine tomorrow and I am anxiously awaiting.

tenbeau said:
Just got back from T Mobile store and after having played with a G2X for about a half an hour I am IMPRESSED!!!!!!!!!!!! Very Very solid built(felt as good or better than my Nexus One) This phone flies out of the box. I have a Vibrant which is rooted and has a custom rom and is running an OC 1.4ghz kernel and I thought it was fast but the G2X is just so smooth and fast!! Actually faster than my Oc Vibrant with no tweaking. It just feels so good in the hand and the weight to me is just perfet. I am to receive mine tomorrow and I am anxiously awaiting.
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i am going to be watching out the window starting at 10am-8pm watching for every ups truck that drives by.... i might yell/chase them DEMANDING for my G2x lol

wondercoolguy said:
I'm gonna throw an otter box on that g2x and its gonna be a beast.
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i just emailed otterbox yesterday asking if they were going to be making cases for the g2x,like their defender series. the idiot that got back to me asked what color replacement i need and what style phone??? lol are they overseas? i had to send another mail out. maybe i should tell him i need a g2x replacement?

nate420 said:
i am going to be watching out the window starting at 10am-8pm watching for every ups truck that drives by.... i might yell/chase them DEMANDING for my G2x lol
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i have my ptz cameras aimed at my side door. i'll be able to see from my g1 if ups arrives while i'm at work. and i'll know if he drops it or not.

nate420 said:
i am going to be watching out the window starting at 10am-8pm watching for every ups truck that drives by.... i might yell/chase them DEMANDING for my G2x lol
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LOL!! I understand completely. I have been training my dog to chase Ups Drivers and trucks until they stop and give us our G2X

tenbeau said:
LOL!! I understand completely. I have been training my dog to chase Ups Drivers and trucks until they stop and give us our G2X
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i wish i could train my ball pythons to do that!
wouldnt be very effective tho

nate420 said:
agreed!
the phone has a bulky(GOOD) feeling too it... i have owned mostly Samsung phone's and they all feel delicate/plastic like..... almost like if it drops its done for... this phone is almost like a solid piece of metal!
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actually i had the vibrant for a month and dropped it 3-4 times. not scratches or anything. had the g2 for a month after that and the g2 felt sooo heavy compaired to the vibrant i was worried about it hitting the ground harder because it was heavy, with every drop i cringed. with the vibrant i just wasnt worried about it. I played soccer (football) for 8 years so whenever i accidentally drop something i end up catching it with my foot haha, its instinct now

zedklind said:
actually i had the vibrant for a month and dropped it 3-4 times. not scratches or anything. had the g2 for a month after that and the g2 felt sooo heavy compaired to the vibrant i was worried about it hitting the ground harder because it was heavy, with every drop i cringed. with the vibrant i just wasnt worried about it. I played soccer (football) for 8 years so whenever i accidentally drop something i end up catching it with my foot haha, its instinct now
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thats the thing. People think the vibrant feels cheap because the plastic back and its light. I actually wasnt too worried about mine falling either as its so light it was like it didnt fall hard. My other phones would bounce and just sound awful when they hit and had a big dent always... Vibrant is good build quaility imo. But the G2x just looks perfect build quality.

Very solid phone indeed. The only thing I was a little disappointed about was no LED notification

Radio shack will be selling it for $199 for new activations and $249 for upgrades.
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jlevy73 said:
Very solid phone indeed. The only thing I was a little disappointed about was no LED notification
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I've kind of got used to no LED after having the vibrant for a year. Hadn't even thought to check if the G2X had one.
This phone is going to be like having my G1 again. Can't believe I'm actually this excited for a phone. I can't wait to get it.
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I have gone down to the nearest tmobile store twice today just to play with the G2X. I am just amazed at how smooth and fast it is right out of the box. I tried the call quality and it was nice and loud and clear and the speakerphone was loud enough and clear enough. The build quality to me is just super!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They let me take it outside and I downloaded GPS test from the market to test the GPS and it took about a minute and a half the first time but it locked on 9 out of 9 to 9 ft accuracy. The bars on GPS test were all solid green and were the strongest I have ever seen on any phone I have handled. Looks like the GPS should be a real winner which is good news coming from my Vibrant. I am awaiting tomorrow like a child at Xmas. lol That is when my G2X will arrive(hopefully) Sold my Nexus One today and was a little uncertain until I went in and played with the G2X now I am glad I did it.

tomorrows the big day!!! i will be speeding home from work just seething with anticipation to hold this phone in my hands!!! get hype!!!!!

I am patient and I know I'm gonna see all these posts showing love to the G2X but I'll hold strong to nerves. I saw that Wirefly lets you use upgrade for g2x for 149.99 no rebates so I'm leaning that direction. I can't wait to put CM7 on this phone and love it as the day is long.

uploder said:
tomorrows the big day!!! i will be speeding home from work just seething with anticipation to hold this phone in my hands!!! get hype!!!!!
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It's a beast. I just got mine earlier today. You know you're a phone junkie when you open the door before the UPS driver knocks.

Amusing AT&T anecdote

(If this is the wrong place for this, Mods feel free to close, move or delete it.
It really only pertains to the Inspire 4G because I own and have modified one.)
It happened last night. My mom has decided that, finally, she wanted a smartphone. Not only a smartphone, but she had done some research and asked me what I thought about the HTC Aria and the LG Pheonix. I told her that the Aria is basically discontinued, so no need in getting that one; and the Pheonix, I didn't know enough about. She had read online that either phone was a good first-time, smartphone to have.
So we went to the AT&T store and looked around, found a Pheonix, messed around with it and I decided sure...it would be a great phone for my mom. For her needs it would do perfectly and well hell, it was running 2.2.1. (of course, I was already running through my mind how to root it and get into it.. )
The amusing part of the whole thing was that the saleslady came over and began to tell us the most off the wall stuff about Android. Of course, I had just got off work and didn't look as smart as I am, so I listened and waited patiently for her spiel...rolling my eyes at the appropriate time, sighing at the right moments and all that.
I noticed she (the saleslady) was getting irritated with me, when especially my mom would look over at me questioningly, as the saleslady would state the capabilities of the phone and I would nod yes or shake my head no.
I could tell the saleslady began to question her confidence at trying to make the sale and finally I said to her, "look we've already decided to get this phone. Its perfect for what she (my mom) needs."
So we went to the counter to finalize the deal and of course, the saleslady started in on "how you should consider getting the 2gb data plan, as with android its always on the internet checking for updates." "There's a lot of settings which are hard to turn off, so it's just easier to get the bigger plan."
I just looked at her..."I can turn them off." Stated simply...with no arrogance or sarcasm intended or noted. She looked at me and paused for a moment; then continued on like I hadn't said anything. She was trying really hard to make this sale and she kept on and on to the point I was getting irritated with her and said,
"look, by midnight tonight I can have that phone turned inside out and backwards...I know what it can do and I'm pretty sure I know its capabilities. Believe me when I say I can turn off the mobile data."
By then she was looking at me with a kinda of stunned expression, like nobody had ever challenged her. Probably didn't make it any better that there were other sales associates and customers standing around.
So she tried a different approach...by trying to sale my mom a case and car charger. I said mom, you can get one cheaper on line...to which the sales lady, in a desperate attempt, stated "you will void your warrenty using 3rd party chargers on your phone."
To which, I again, sighed and said with no malice or harm intended "no...it will void the warrenty if we fry the phone and you can prove we used a 3rd party charger."
By that time, I looked around and several of the other customers were watching our exchange, because it went back and forth for several minutes, like I was some kind of God or even a Demon. I dunno.
I could tell she was rattled and if nothing else I gave her a little learning not to assume that everybody who comes through the door is clueless. Maybe I was an ass/jerk but that really wasn't my intentions.

Your My Hero!
Haha, I hate listening to salespeople who have basically no clue what they are talking about and sometimes i throw out questions that I know for a fact that they cannot answer.
And wow, who would actually say using a third party charger will void your warranty... personally I would be embarrassed just to say that in my head.

Cool. Story. Bro.

ThEiiNoCeNT said:
Your My Hero!
Haha, I hate listening to salespeople who have basically no clue what they are talking about and sometimes i throw out questions that I know for a fact that they cannot answer.
And wow, who would actually say using a third party charger will void your warranty... personally I would be embarrassed just to say that in my head.
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I had heard that before, but I don't know how they could prove it.

Nice one. Thanks for starting my day with a smile.
I can recall when I went to look for Atrix how the salesperson was telling some other customer that Inspire was a dual core and had 1 GB RAM. I was like with a "?" on my face and told him, it didn't, and that he was confused between Atrix and Inspire specs.

i had the same type of exchange when i went in for my inspire. I think they should really inform the employees a little better, or at least a little!

Sales ppl suck. I always tell them, Nicely but firmly. "Thank you, but I will inform you when I am ready to purchase." If they continue I let them know that I have things in hand and am not requesting thier service at this time.
It usually works. Sometimes I have to tell them, Please excuse us, but I know more about electronics then you and do not apprecaite your miscomunication.

tweaked said:
Sales ppl suck. I always tell them, Nicely but firmly. "Thank you, but I will inform you when I am ready to purchase." If they continue I let them know that I have things in hand and am not requesting thier service at this time.
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Yep, that's a prime example between salespersons that work on commission, and those that do not.

Rofl- ya I usually shut them dudes up real quick. Start talking about bootloaders and kernels, they'll back off

di11igaf said:
Rofl- ya I usually shut them dudes up real quick. Start talking about bootloaders and kernels, they'll back off
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Funny story but remember the sales people need to make commission so they will try anything to make a sale. And they don't get the proper training as these phones are released I know because I used to be a sales rep for at&t therefore they look stupid to phone tech savvy people.
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Bootloader.... what you call my momma?

droe411 said:
Bootloader.... what you call my momma?
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Now that's funny, I don't care who you are!
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I do have to say that using a third party charger is not the best move. It won't void your warranty ( I work for ATT Corp.) but it does have a habit of destroying phones.
I usually say to people that you wouldn't want to run cheap wiring in your house so why would run cheap wiring from your car to your phone and risk frying both for something that is at most 20 bucks cheaper.
But that's just my 2cents.

There are differences in usb cables..... My wifes old Xperia X10 would burn up if I plugged in my Inspire's cable. Literally high temps and reboot.....

This is awesome! I feel the same exact way every time I go into that store. Last time I went in to upgrade my iPhone 3GS and I went in with it jailbroken and modded and themed to hell and the guy saw it and was like "WOAH! THATS SO COOL! WHAT IS THAT?" i told him it was an app as he proceeded to hand me the iPhone 4 lol

veritas2884 said:
I do have to say that using a third party charger is not the best move. It won't void your warranty ( I work for ATT Corp.) but it does have a habit of destroying phones.
I usually say to people that you wouldn't want to run cheap wiring in your house so why would run cheap wiring from your car to your phone and risk frying both for something that is at most 20 bucks cheaper.
But that's just my 2cents.
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Heh...well she shouldn't have assumed; I never stated we were ordering a 3rd party charger. I could have ordered a proprietary charger online...and perhaps a better price.

di11igaf said:
Rofl- ya I usually shut them dudes up real quick. Start talking about bootloaders and kernels, they'll back off
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+1 i bought an inspire may 23rd and since then my aunt, uncle, other aunt, and my father have bought the same phone. I was with them each sale, what a major mindnumbing experience.. Radioshack was worse though, at best go to best buy, haven't had any problems with them and they do price match...

The reps at my store are actually pretty cool. When I went to get my inspire,the only thing he said was "if you want eye candy,sturdyness,great support and cool customization's then the inspire is for you. If you want better battery life or a future proof phone,then I'd go for the attic,but I've learned the consumer usually knows what they want if they walk in,and go straight for the high end phones" those were the exact words lol. Then i told him I would flash a ROM on the inspire to improve battery life and he was like yeah,that would work too and told me how he did the same with his captivated. The. Got his store manager to whip out his inspire,to show me the custom ROM he was running LOL. The reps here are all cool and never push for you to get something different then what you laid eyes on when you walked in the store. But its different with the Verizon store here. Every time I go in to pay my laptop bill they always trying to get me to add a line,and then i tell them how I would only consider there incredible 2,but wouldn't get it due to boot loaders being locked,and they would be like huh? So I'd be like,uhh I wouldn't be able to hack it. And they a rep said "well ya know,Verizon phones usually come with the best software period and no hack/mod will make it any better" I looked around like,umm you do know verizon owns the worst phone ever....the Droid x,rite? They just laughed and I left. But anyways,at&t here is awsome
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veritas2884 said:
I do have to say that using a third party charger is not the best move. It won't void your warranty ( I work for ATT Corp.) but it does have a habit of destroying phones.
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If the charger doesn't have HTC written all over it, it's a 3rd party charger. The one I bought from AT&T has a USB port on it and the AT&T deathstar glows when plugged in. I do believe that's a "3rd party" charger.
There may be quality differences in construction of chargers but they're not that complicated since the phone is actually doing all the charging and battery monitoring.

T_T

I was so happy with my G2x, not only did I invest in a hundred dollar battery, screen protector, headphones etc. and just updated to ginger bread, I was so enthusiastic to go out and play with my gadget, then bam! While looking at the screen under the sunlight, there our was, starting me in the face, a tiny white speck of dust under the screen! Aaaaaarrrrrggghhhh! FML.
I'm at church now....more important things in life...God please give me peace.

And if your eyes are anything like my eyes, it's probably 18'" across! Feelin' your pain bro!
I wonder if it is worth getting a can of compressed air from a camera shop? It got in, maybe you can force it out or away from the screen?

Hmmm...that would give me precisely the excuse I needed to embark on this mission: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15538625#post15538625
But then again, I'm kinda crazy.

Ok mass just finished, and coincidentally the sermon from the priest was what is your treasure? The priest is a professor at Loyola university, and he told a story about how his students treasured material things. Really strange because the moral of the story was all this is temporary.
I'm enjoy this g2x for the time I have it, flaws and all.

"Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven... " muwahahaha...
Seriously though, 100$ for a battery? ?? Is you crazy? Hope that thing gives good head to.
Personally I'm leary of afermarket batteries but hey more power to ya.
So its like a 5k mah?? What could possibly make this bat worth a hundo?
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maybe god is punishing you LOOLOLO
DO'H!
then again some dont have one to be punished by!