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I was really excited when I heard the rumours about the nexus S along with 2.3.
Now it's been released I am extremely disappointed. It is no different from the Samsung galaxy S, which in my opinion was not a good device to start with, with it's cheap plastic design, lag problems and GPS issues etc. They even dropped the SD card slot which was the final nail in the coffin for me. Didnt implement hspa+ and dropped the bluetooth 3.0.
So for now i'll be sticking to my HTC desire with a custom 2.3 rom when it becomes available.
I suppose 2.3 comes with some welcomed features but we will have to wait till honeycomb to see the full UI update i guess.
What are your thoughts? Will the nexus S be your next device?
Let me know what you think.

I don't know but HTC is also full of problems too, i hope people realize that HTC uses cheap crap into their phones, the nexus one's awful touch screen, tiny speakers, dust under the screen, power button problems. I don't understand why people praise HTC so much i mean their warranty isn't stellar, having to send your phone for 3 weeks isn't very appealing.
Galaxy S to start with is already a better phone than the nexus one, the GPS works and everything works in the vibrant.
Your comment seems like from just another misinformed user.

dhiral.v said:
What are your thoughts?
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My thoughts are that people who complain about Google not releasing the phone of their dreams have missed the point of the Nexus S

I think:
No SD card= no problem, It's a phone after all guys, if you need music I would get an iPod, I use Pandora or groove shark anyways...I can't even fill my 8Gb card as it is!
Plastic Build= This is not a problem for me either because it's googles phone, i bet it will feel solid after all and I like the classy black gloss look so im biased anyways...
No HSPA+ = I don;t think many people are actually getting up to the 7mb anyways, but in the near future I think T mobile will be updating it to a whopping 21Mb so this is a bit upsetting but I only get edge at my house anyways so I'm okay with this too
This is the ONLY fully supported GOOGLE PHONE as of now remember. The nexus one is slowly dying
That's why I will have mine on the 16th!

Not sure why so many people complain about the Galaxy S line of phones. I have the Fascinate and I am not getting lag, the plastic case is plenty durable, my GPS also works fine.

tekkitan said:
Not sure why so many people complain about the Galaxy S line of phones. I have the Fascinate and I am not getting lag, the plastic case is plenty durable, my GPS also works fine.
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EXACTLY i held a fascinate and it felt so solid! I just don't understand it....and HSPA+? You can still get up to 7.2 MB, but that isn't good enough? I mean that flies on my Nexus one already! I dont need any more speed.

I think you should read the first post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867112

Why, I think Google ****ed up.....having Best Buy Launch it

irishrally said:
I think you should read the first post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867112
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Love it
It's amazing to me how Google could come out with "the best android phone to date" (Endgadget's verdict) and yet people still complain

slowz3r said:
Why, I think Google ****ed up.....having Best Buy Launch it
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would you have perferred WalMart?
lets keep it real, GOOGLE missed on the N1 because you couldnt walk into a national retailer, touch it, feel it, try it.
Best Buy Mobile is one of the best places to get a smartphone if not the best, they certainly have the most and best prices. rebates anyone? any retailer is going to have idiots who dont know what theyre talking about...trust me it would be worst in a WalMart, Shack, or Target for example.

greenstuffs said:
I don't know but HTC is also full of problems too, i hope people realize that HTC uses cheap crap into their phones, the nexus one's awful touch screen, tiny speakers, dust under the screen, power button problems. I don't understand why people praise HTC so much i mean their warranty isn't stellar, having to send your phone for 3 weeks isn't very appealing.
Galaxy S to start with is already a better phone than the nexus one, the GPS works and everything works in the vibrant.
Your comment seems like from just another misinformed user.
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I'm not praising HTC at all. I don't agree that HTC uses cheap crap in their phones. HTC's design and build quality is one of the best in the industry. I do agree no phone is perfect, Some HTC's do have problems like the lack of a good quality speaker and the multi-touch issues on the N1. However the new HTC line up looks promising such as the G2/desire z and desire HD etc.
When I was playing on my friends galaxy S I did notice the lag issue and GPS problems. To me the actual build quality seemed cheap. However I will say, great processor and internal hardware, with that gorgeous AMOLED screen. That's just my experience of the device.
ap3604 said:
My thoughts are that people who complain about Google not releasing the phone of their dreams have missed the point of the Nexus S
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I think you might be missing the point I am trying to make.
I wasn't expecting the phone of my dreams, far from it. My point is that the specs are almost identical to that of the galaxy S. With exception to the NFC and gyro of course.
The reason why expandable memory is a deal breaker for me, amongst other things, is the fact they are removing a feature, I know for some people this will be fine, but it reminds me of the iphone and how apple removes basic features, in their closed system.
The nexus S could have been great, but it was rushed for release just for the Christmas season.
Above all that here in the UK its going to cost a whopping £550 on launch day!
I think the nexus S will be fine for most, but there's nothing revolutionary about it.

The last I heard about a "revolutionary" phone was from steve job's mouth. Just sayin. I don't think google is saying this is a revolutionary device. Nexus named phone just means its Google's baby.
Some people just have too much expectation.
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I don't agree on making a general comment like HTC rocks and Samsung sucks or vice versa.In gadgets world, you have to take each product and review it as it is. About build quality , I have a cheap Samsung slide phone and it has been taking some awful falls for a while, on hard floors and streets and although it's fully made of plastic, it amazed me how it's still holding up with just scratches and it's performing just like the first day I got it. There is no one device that can fit all people, everyone has something to look for in his phone. For me, NS fits me the most now. You might have some other specifications that you are looking for too, so this might not be your phone.

Couple of key points for me...
Not realy '****ed' up per se, just dropped the ball on a couple of points:
NO HSPA+= No purchase for me, my next phone has to have it (currently with HD2)
No HD video recording. WTF!? I'm sure someone will unleash it in a custom ROM or hack, but off the bat, just plain doopid!
I was almost there until I found out those 2 points. I'd rather get a MyTouch 4G.
Cyph

google probably said "screw u htc for trying to make it harder to root"
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Madcypher said:
NO HSPA+= No purchase for me, my next phone has to have it (currently with HD2)
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What do you think you're going to do with speeds above 7mbps?

No 4G, No HD Video, No SD Slot. These are staples in current cell phones. Is it that hard for google to put in a phone? NO PURCHASE.

j.bruha said:
What do you think you're going to do with speeds above 7mbps?
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ever heard of tethering?

donniestarko said:
No 4G, No HD Video, No SD Slot. These are staples in current cell phones. Is it that hard for google to put in a phone? NO PURCHASE.
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Ever heard of trolling?

donniestarko said:
No 4G, No HD Video, No SD Slot. These are staples in current cell phones. Is it that hard for google to put in a phone? NO PURCHASE.
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My point exactly, why remove features??? And wasn't the fact that android phones have expandable storage, differentiated it from the iphone...

Leaving Verizon for the NS4G, questions I have them.

So after using a D1 since release day I finally got tired of it lack of ram and rom memory and upgraded to a Thunderbolt the day it came out. At first I was thrilled with it. Now.. not so much. Battery life is not so good and developer progress has been sort of slow with lots of hold ups. Not too mention the awful direction Verizon seems to be headed in bloating and locking down their devices. So I've been considering switching to Sprint. When I found out yesterday that turtle giving a $125 credit to new subscribers that port their old number.... well needless to say once I get back from this deployment in June I'm ditching my Thunderbolt and getting my fiancée and myself two NS4G's, the feat news being that it'll only be $40 more a month for both phones than it was for the one thunderbolt!
So anyway.. my questions.
I was blindsided by a few things on the thunderbolt and I'm not looking for a repeat exerience with the new phones.
I know the 4g isn't gorilla glass but is he screen very scratch resistant? I ran my d1 without a protector for 1 1/2 years without a single scratch. The Tbolt screen isn't so durable...
Screen technology... how many different kind of screens are there for the NS? which one(s) does the NS4G have?
Car mounts? I have bought one for each of my phones... I love them. Are there any OEM ones or really good ones for the NS4G?
Reviews indicate that battery life is pretty good? Does user experience back this up?
Pound for pound would you rather have the NS4G or the Thunderbolt? Also Sprint has 4g where I work and live... VZW not so much.
Ty in advance to any helpful replies or links. I've been sifting for info and haven't much specifically about the 4g and I apologize for all the questions. Just feel like I got burned one the thunderbolt and do t want to repeat that experience.

This isn't the answer to one of your questions, but be warned that Sprint's 3G coverage has degraded lately (they lost a roaming contract) and 4G isn't in all cities yet. Heck it isn't even in all major cities yet.

I love my ns4g. Came from an evo. sprint service isnt as good as the big v, but they have chepper plans. 4g is still a battery killer. but i get is light years above the evo and TB (my girl has one)
i always use zagg screan protectors so cant help you there

Even on 3g only the TB battery life sucks... and the notification light is so useless you might as well not even have one so getting a phone without one won't be so hard.
The only thing I know that is going to suck is soon the Nexus 3 will be out. I guess I just have to ensure I set enough money back to buy it at full price when it does Gonna keep digging thru the forum trying to figure stuff out on this phone in the meantime.
Do you highly recommend the ZAGG products? and how easy are they to install and not **** it up?

I actually sold my Thunderbolt and ditched Verizon for the NS4G. I have zero regrets. Yes, coverage(service) is not as good, although acceptable. The radio on the 4G is standard Samsung, meaning it doesnt get as good a signal as the HTC or MOTO devices(this is a topic of debate, some say its the AOSP that causes it, I disagree).Ive had a screen protector on it since I pulled it out of the box, so cant answer ya there. Battery life hasnt been great for me, I am rooted though and running a custom kernel, not oc'd though. My Bolt got a little better battery life. The NS4G is a very good fit in the hand, I felt the Bolt was just a tad to much in the hand, although I loved the screen.
Overall, the Pro's outweigh the Con's. If you get the NS4G, I doubt you will regret it. The Bolt is a great idea, poorly executed and rushed though. I found it buggy and a little overhyped pre-release.
This is just my 2 cents.

Off topic....
The title of the thread reads like Yoda to me.

mikeyinid said:
I actually sold my Thunderbolt and ditched Verizon for the NS4G. I have zero regrets. Yes, coverage(service) is not as good, although acceptable. The radio on the 4G is standard Samsung, meaning it doesnt get as good a signal as the HTC or MOTO devices(this is a topic of debate, some say its the AOSP that causes it, I disagree).Ive had a screen protector on it since I pulled it out of the box, so cant answer ya there. Battery life hasnt been great for me, I am rooted though and running a custom kernel, not oc'd though. My Bolt got a little better battery life. The NS4G is a very good fit in the hand, I felt the Bolt was just a tad to much in the hand, although I loved the screen.
Overall, the Pro's outweigh the Con's. If you get the NS4G, I doubt you will regret it. The Bolt is a great idea, poorly executed and rushed though. I found it buggy and a little overhyped pre-release.
This is just my 2 cents.
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According to sprints coverage made they have good 4g signal where I live and work... I'm just so sick and tired of waiting for android goodness too "trickle down" to me via a dev who has a life/job/kids. Nothing wrong with that and I love everything the community does but I can't take not getting the stuff that makes android cool without having to jump thru a million hoops.
Hopefully the service won't be too bad, and hey! If enough of us leave VZW's oppressive ways Sprint is bound to get better.. right?

DarkAgent said:
This isn't the answer to one of your questions, but be warned that Sprint's 3G coverage has degraded lately (they lost a roaming contract) and 4G isn't in all cities yet. Heck it isn't even in all major cities yet.
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so would this explain why even though I'm getting full bars 3g, it's so god dang slow?? sprint told me there were tower issues in my area and techs would look at it. but if the lost roaming contract is the cause of this, then i'm just gonna jump ship stats.
to the op, i came from an EVO to the dell streak. i actually missed the smaller screen bc i got tired of holding those big phones. the biggest advantage imo is that the nexus s has a perfect screen size for viewing and holding. feels great in the hand as the curves and the lighter weight allows your hand to better wrap around and grip the phone without fatigue or cramping.
most importantly, go for whatever service is best for you. sounds like sprint is a no-brainer. unfortunately in my area, sprint 4g is non-existant and 3g has seemingly gone down the hole.

I'll play on this. Coming from a evo, epic, g2, iphone 4, now back to sprint and got the NS4G. I finally feel like i have a phone that i dont "FEEL" The need to sell to get something better at this moment. Mainly because its a full google phone. No middle man, no waiting, and once more devs hop on this phone, your going to love it! Far as scratching i didnt even want to test it out i cop the full body zagg ASAP so i cant help you there. In all honestly the evo has messed me up about these other htc copies that are coming on other carriers. All may have better specs in some areas, but i still feel like its a evo copy cat IMO. Nothing to make me switch carriers for, or be like "Yea that's better than my evo" But if the service is good in your area and it doesnt gets on your nerves, then welcome to the nexus s family!

I had the Thunderbolt and am now using a Nexus S 4G.
I liked the Thunderbolt a lot. I have very good LTE coverage so speeds were blazing fast. The battery wasn't so good. I was using the extended battery and was getting about 20 hours of usage.
The phone was too big and heavy though, so when the Nexus S 4G came out I switched and am glad I did!
The form factor of the Nexus is a lot better. Battery is decent, got 10 hours today with 3 hours of screen time, and with 4G on all day.
I love the SAMOLED, mainly because of the blacks. I have a black theme on my phone and it looks amazing!
Downside is that the Nexus has less RAM. It has 512MB but it seems that only 350MB is accessible by apps. I have noticed some lag on it VS the Thunderbolt with 768MB of RAM.
I'm glad I made the switch. Gingerbread is awesome, and so is the google talk video chat.
For the car mount, check out the Kensington K39256US. It is made for the iPhone but works great with the Nexus S. It's cheap on amazon.

4G brute
Got a scratch on the screen and I'm really careful with my phones. Always in a dedicated pocket, maybe caught on a button while going in? Still, never scratched the front of my phone before. Hopefully not a sign, lets see what else happens within 30 days, then back to Best Buy!

Also, zagg is cool, but the price is high and the texture sucks. I use skinomi. Similar material, no orange peel, and only $16 shipped after a 25% coupon online. Its actually pretty simple to install given u follow directions and are patient with it.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk

hey in case you were planning on the ns4g soon, wirefly has a deal where its $99 on new contract, no activation/shipping charges, and no taxes. Thats $99 OTD, paying what the TMo guys are paying for theirs now on contract
I was thinking about picking up an at&t ns bc my sprint service is kinda slow here, but for $99, i'll stick with it. actually just ordered mine, and gonna take my current ns4g back to best buy where i payed $263 OTD...savings of $163

To the OP.. I would SERIOUSLY think of two things
Check your coverage.. Sprints coverage has been dramatically sliced recently: http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/281992#281992
#2... You know those 3G speeds you got on Verizon? Sprint calls that 4G.. 3G on Sprint is annoying to say the least since these coverage loses.

styckx said:
To the OP.. I would SERIOUSLY think of two things
Check your coverage.. Sprints coverage has been dramatically sliced recently: http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/281992#281992
#2... You know those 3G speeds you got on Verizon? Sprint calls that 4G.. 3G on Sprint is annoying to say the least since these coverage loses.
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The antenna issues I'm reading about are kinda scaring me as well....

Amusing AT&T anecdote

(If this is the wrong place for this, Mods feel free to close, move or delete it.
It really only pertains to the Inspire 4G because I own and have modified one.)
It happened last night. My mom has decided that, finally, she wanted a smartphone. Not only a smartphone, but she had done some research and asked me what I thought about the HTC Aria and the LG Pheonix. I told her that the Aria is basically discontinued, so no need in getting that one; and the Pheonix, I didn't know enough about. She had read online that either phone was a good first-time, smartphone to have.
So we went to the AT&T store and looked around, found a Pheonix, messed around with it and I decided sure...it would be a great phone for my mom. For her needs it would do perfectly and well hell, it was running 2.2.1. (of course, I was already running through my mind how to root it and get into it.. )
The amusing part of the whole thing was that the saleslady came over and began to tell us the most off the wall stuff about Android. Of course, I had just got off work and didn't look as smart as I am, so I listened and waited patiently for her spiel...rolling my eyes at the appropriate time, sighing at the right moments and all that.
I noticed she (the saleslady) was getting irritated with me, when especially my mom would look over at me questioningly, as the saleslady would state the capabilities of the phone and I would nod yes or shake my head no.
I could tell the saleslady began to question her confidence at trying to make the sale and finally I said to her, "look we've already decided to get this phone. Its perfect for what she (my mom) needs."
So we went to the counter to finalize the deal and of course, the saleslady started in on "how you should consider getting the 2gb data plan, as with android its always on the internet checking for updates." "There's a lot of settings which are hard to turn off, so it's just easier to get the bigger plan."
I just looked at her..."I can turn them off." Stated simply...with no arrogance or sarcasm intended or noted. She looked at me and paused for a moment; then continued on like I hadn't said anything. She was trying really hard to make this sale and she kept on and on to the point I was getting irritated with her and said,
"look, by midnight tonight I can have that phone turned inside out and backwards...I know what it can do and I'm pretty sure I know its capabilities. Believe me when I say I can turn off the mobile data."
By then she was looking at me with a kinda of stunned expression, like nobody had ever challenged her. Probably didn't make it any better that there were other sales associates and customers standing around.
So she tried a different approach...by trying to sale my mom a case and car charger. I said mom, you can get one cheaper on line...to which the sales lady, in a desperate attempt, stated "you will void your warrenty using 3rd party chargers on your phone."
To which, I again, sighed and said with no malice or harm intended "no...it will void the warrenty if we fry the phone and you can prove we used a 3rd party charger."
By that time, I looked around and several of the other customers were watching our exchange, because it went back and forth for several minutes, like I was some kind of God or even a Demon. I dunno.
I could tell she was rattled and if nothing else I gave her a little learning not to assume that everybody who comes through the door is clueless. Maybe I was an ass/jerk but that really wasn't my intentions.

Your My Hero!
Haha, I hate listening to salespeople who have basically no clue what they are talking about and sometimes i throw out questions that I know for a fact that they cannot answer.
And wow, who would actually say using a third party charger will void your warranty... personally I would be embarrassed just to say that in my head.

Cool. Story. Bro.

ThEiiNoCeNT said:
Your My Hero!
Haha, I hate listening to salespeople who have basically no clue what they are talking about and sometimes i throw out questions that I know for a fact that they cannot answer.
And wow, who would actually say using a third party charger will void your warranty... personally I would be embarrassed just to say that in my head.
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I had heard that before, but I don't know how they could prove it.

Nice one. Thanks for starting my day with a smile.
I can recall when I went to look for Atrix how the salesperson was telling some other customer that Inspire was a dual core and had 1 GB RAM. I was like with a "?" on my face and told him, it didn't, and that he was confused between Atrix and Inspire specs.

i had the same type of exchange when i went in for my inspire. I think they should really inform the employees a little better, or at least a little!

Sales ppl suck. I always tell them, Nicely but firmly. "Thank you, but I will inform you when I am ready to purchase." If they continue I let them know that I have things in hand and am not requesting thier service at this time.
It usually works. Sometimes I have to tell them, Please excuse us, but I know more about electronics then you and do not apprecaite your miscomunication.

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Sales ppl suck. I always tell them, Nicely but firmly. "Thank you, but I will inform you when I am ready to purchase." If they continue I let them know that I have things in hand and am not requesting thier service at this time.
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Yep, that's a prime example between salespersons that work on commission, and those that do not.

Rofl- ya I usually shut them dudes up real quick. Start talking about bootloaders and kernels, they'll back off

di11igaf said:
Rofl- ya I usually shut them dudes up real quick. Start talking about bootloaders and kernels, they'll back off
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Funny story but remember the sales people need to make commission so they will try anything to make a sale. And they don't get the proper training as these phones are released I know because I used to be a sales rep for at&t therefore they look stupid to phone tech savvy people.
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Bootloader.... what you call my momma?

droe411 said:
Bootloader.... what you call my momma?
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Now that's funny, I don't care who you are!
Sent from MY LeeDroid loaded Inspire

I do have to say that using a third party charger is not the best move. It won't void your warranty ( I work for ATT Corp.) but it does have a habit of destroying phones.
I usually say to people that you wouldn't want to run cheap wiring in your house so why would run cheap wiring from your car to your phone and risk frying both for something that is at most 20 bucks cheaper.
But that's just my 2cents.

There are differences in usb cables..... My wifes old Xperia X10 would burn up if I plugged in my Inspire's cable. Literally high temps and reboot.....

This is awesome! I feel the same exact way every time I go into that store. Last time I went in to upgrade my iPhone 3GS and I went in with it jailbroken and modded and themed to hell and the guy saw it and was like "WOAH! THATS SO COOL! WHAT IS THAT?" i told him it was an app as he proceeded to hand me the iPhone 4 lol

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I do have to say that using a third party charger is not the best move. It won't void your warranty ( I work for ATT Corp.) but it does have a habit of destroying phones.
I usually say to people that you wouldn't want to run cheap wiring in your house so why would run cheap wiring from your car to your phone and risk frying both for something that is at most 20 bucks cheaper.
But that's just my 2cents.
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Heh...well she shouldn't have assumed; I never stated we were ordering a 3rd party charger. I could have ordered a proprietary charger online...and perhaps a better price.

di11igaf said:
Rofl- ya I usually shut them dudes up real quick. Start talking about bootloaders and kernels, they'll back off
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+1 i bought an inspire may 23rd and since then my aunt, uncle, other aunt, and my father have bought the same phone. I was with them each sale, what a major mindnumbing experience.. Radioshack was worse though, at best go to best buy, haven't had any problems with them and they do price match...

The reps at my store are actually pretty cool. When I went to get my inspire,the only thing he said was "if you want eye candy,sturdyness,great support and cool customization's then the inspire is for you. If you want better battery life or a future proof phone,then I'd go for the attic,but I've learned the consumer usually knows what they want if they walk in,and go straight for the high end phones" those were the exact words lol. Then i told him I would flash a ROM on the inspire to improve battery life and he was like yeah,that would work too and told me how he did the same with his captivated. The. Got his store manager to whip out his inspire,to show me the custom ROM he was running LOL. The reps here are all cool and never push for you to get something different then what you laid eyes on when you walked in the store. But its different with the Verizon store here. Every time I go in to pay my laptop bill they always trying to get me to add a line,and then i tell them how I would only consider there incredible 2,but wouldn't get it due to boot loaders being locked,and they would be like huh? So I'd be like,uhh I wouldn't be able to hack it. And they a rep said "well ya know,Verizon phones usually come with the best software period and no hack/mod will make it any better" I looked around like,umm you do know verizon owns the worst phone ever....the Droid x,rite? They just laughed and I left. But anyways,at&t here is awsome
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veritas2884 said:
I do have to say that using a third party charger is not the best move. It won't void your warranty ( I work for ATT Corp.) but it does have a habit of destroying phones.
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If the charger doesn't have HTC written all over it, it's a 3rd party charger. The one I bought from AT&T has a USB port on it and the AT&T deathstar glows when plugged in. I do believe that's a "3rd party" charger.
There may be quality differences in construction of chargers but they're not that complicated since the phone is actually doing all the charging and battery monitoring.

Was reading over at the Sensation Thread... That new phone has ZERO issues, aww some

Take a gander over at the Sensation thread....way more concerns than the G2x.
1. Death Grip.
2. Assembly issues.
3. Screen not being sealed, dust getting in, joints not connected.
4. Switching automatically into Silent mode.
5. Two screen manufacturers one with very bad viewing angles SHARP....AUO seemly the better one....jury still out.
6. Speaker and microphone problems.
7. Touchscreen problems.
I am pretty sure some threads will be started about how TMOnews is saying the Sensation is being pulled. Some earnest posters will soon be saying they want to do a class action for their 1 week old phone, instead of just returning it outright.
Basically everything is always greener on the phone that is yet to be released. At least with LG you actually will get a screen made by LG. HTC is kinda like the Vizio of cell phones.
Remember: Doing a full system rebuild reset (clearing out everything and reset option) will cool down your phone, and extend battery length. Something about recognizing the battery size properly is thought to be reason. Its the first thing to do on a new phone. Accessed through the menus

Come on Tom. I am happy with my G2X but I am sure that the Sensation will not be pulled from stores for a month without any word from HTC and T-mobile . I'm also sure that folks that have them don't have to go through 3 of them to get a working one or flash a custom rom to keep it from rebooting. AGAIN . I love my G2X but at least the sensation shipped with gingerbread .
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Take a gander over at the Sensation thread....way more concerns than the G2x.
1. Death Grip.
2. Assembly issues.
3. Screen not being sealed, dust getting in, joints not connected.
4. Switching automatically into Silent mode.
5. Two screen manufacturers one with very bad viewing angles SHARP....AUO seemly the better one....jury still out.
6. Speaker and microphone problems.
7. Touchscreen problems.
I am pretty sure some threads will be started about how TMOnews is saying the Sensation is being pulled. Some earnest posters will soon be saying they want to do a class action for their 1 week old phone, instead of just returning it outright.
Basically everything is always greener on the phone that is yet to be released. At least with LG you actually will get a screen made by LG. HTC is kinda like the Vizio of cell phones.
Remember: Doing a full system rebuild reset (clearing out everything and reset option) will cool down your phone, and extend battery length. Something about recognizing the battery size properly is thought to be reason. Its the first thing to do on a new phone. Accessed through the menus
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Lets not be jealous of what other people have.
I had the G2x from day one till a week ago. Had so many issues, with bleeding, with phone rebooting, with EVERYTHING. My brother and my girlfriend also had the same issues with the G2x. I got the sensation, and I have had 0 issues so far.
Yes, the only thing is death grip, but guess what.. the G2x has it too. Every phone has it. But when do you get it ? Only when you put the phone in the palm of your hand, and cover it completely.
If someone holds the phone like that - they are probably not supposed to have a phone in the first time.
So please dont go talking **** about the Sensation, just by looking at what the noobs are saying about it.
Like every other phone - there are a few issues with it, as some people get dust and whatnot, but guess what - they get a replacement and it works.
I got 3 G2x replacements - all had the same issues as the previous. Constant rebooting or freezing, horrible HORRIBLE backlight bleeding.. NO THANK YOU! I use my phone for business and can not afford using a phone that will randomly just freeze and not work at all.
Again, I have had 0 issues with my sensation, other than the fact that it has no root so far. But we are getting there. And not just me - I got 3 phones, they all work perfectly fine.
Go ahead, get yourself a sensation, feel it, see it, play with it - and then say that the G2x is better.

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Take a gander over at the Sensation thread....way more concerns than the G2x.
1. Death Grip.
2. Assembly issues.
3. Screen not being sealed, dust getting in, joints not connected.
4. Switching automatically into Silent mode.
5. Two screen manufacturers one with very bad viewing angles SHARP....AUO seemly the better one....jury still out.
6. Speaker and microphone problems.
7. Touchscreen problems.
I am pretty sure some threads will be started about how TMOnews is saying the Sensation is being pulled. Some earnest posters will soon be saying they want to do a class action for their 1 week old phone, instead of just returning it outright.
Basically everything is always greener on the phone that is yet to be released. At least with LG you actually will get a screen made by LG. HTC is kinda like the Vizio of cell phones.
Remember: Doing a full system rebuild reset (clearing out everything and reset option) will cool down your phone, and extend battery length. Something about recognizing the battery size properly is thought to be reason. Its the first thing to do on a new phone. Accessed through the menus
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I have both the phones with me. Below are the things i found in my usage.
1) I tried to play some games on sensation and I just couldn't. The games i am talking about are NANO PANDA, JENGA, KONAS CRATE, PEGGLE. I could load them and play for only 10 mins max. It was really really slow. But G2X was treating these games like piece of cake. So fast and easy to load. On top of that when i try to play these kind of games and then go back home on sensation, the sense would do a soft reset itself because of memory issue or whatever it may be.
2) Whenever i restart my phone, i loose the icons from my home of the apps which are on SD card. Time to Time i also have to delete widgets from home screen and add them back on, otherwise i get jagged lines on the widgets.
3) on the same wifi network g2x was able to pull 10mbps down, 3 mbps up. At the same time sensation was able to pull 4mbps down and 2.5mbps up. STRANGE.
4) Stability wise still sensation is a little bit better than G2X. But when you use sensation for 1 week straight and do not touch G2X. And after that week when you play with G2X, my GODDDD, you will feel the speed. G2X is so so so much faster and fluid than sensation.
NOTE TO PPL WHO ARE CONSIDERING SENSATION:-
its a good phone, but its nowhere near g2x imo. wait for the g2x patch, i am sure that would resolve all the software related issues. do not rush and get sensation. trust me, you are just getting one hell of a laggy but beautiful phone.

Well the G2x is pretty sound hardware wise... it just shipped with crappy software. At least it was unlocked and able to allow the Devs here to fix them.
Hardware problems are different. The Sensations touchscreen issues could be resolved via drivers... or they could just have a crappy digitizer like we had on the Nexus One (fake multitouch). These are things that make the phone kinda crappy because it could turn into a real issue that is unresolvable.
I don't know but lets be real, every phone I've had I run custom roms. If a custom rom is a good fix to solve pretty much all the problems of a new phone... wouldn't it make sense to go that route instead of just enduring the issues?
The Sensation is currently locked down so no devs are able to try and fix those issues. Your forced to stick it out until either HTC sends out an updated rom (months) or they unlock the bootloader (maybe never, but probably eventually).
Those are some crappy odds. I'd much rather take the much more powerful G2x, load a custom CM7 rom, and have the best of both worlds. I have a newer version of Android on my G2x then the Sensation has (2.3.4 vs 2.3.3), it is super fast, solid, and more powerful. Why would anyone not want that?

Just my two cents. I ended up with the sensation. I still own my g2x. I feel so far the sensation is a better phone. I can't play my purchased tegra games which sucks. But I have a 50" tv with ps3 and 360 for all that nonsense. I need my phone to work and not be a pain in the as! I had a love hate relation with my g2x. Seems the bottom line is that the phone was a great idea but ended up a failure! Am very happy (so far) with the sensation, does what it is suppose to do. Haven't seen any dust or had any issues. Fingers crossed! I will be selling my g2x.
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t0ny0 said:
Lets not be jealous of what other people have.
I had the G2x from day one till a week ago. Had so many issues, with bleeding, with phone rebooting, with EVERYTHING. My brother and my girlfriend also had the same issues with the G2x. I got the sensation, and I have had 0 issues so far.
Yes, the only thing is death grip, but guess what.. the G2x has it too. Every phone has it. But when do you get it ? Only when you put the phone in the palm of your hand, and cover it completely.
If someone holds the phone like that - they are probably not supposed to have a phone in the first time.
So please dont go talking **** about the Sensation, just by looking at what the noobs are saying about it.
Like every other phone - there are a few issues with it, as some people get dust and whatnot, but guess what - they get a replacement and it works.
I got 3 G2x replacements - all had the same issues as the previous. Constant rebooting or freezing, horrible HORRIBLE backlight bleeding.. NO THANK YOU! I use my phone for business and can not afford using a phone that will randomly just freeze and not work at all.
Again, I have had 0 issues with my sensation, other than the fact that it has no root so far. But we are getting there. And not just me - I got 3 phones, they all work perfectly fine.
Go ahead, get yourself a sensation, feel it, see it, play with it - and then say that the G2x is better.
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My sentiments exactly. I've had no issues with my sensation at all, and when compared to the issues I had with the G2X it isn't close. I'm at 17 days now with the Sensation and I have not had a single crash or reboot. Deathgrip is a non-issue and there is no screen bleed. While I do like G2X I feel like my Sensation is much more stable and reliable than it is. That may possibly change with a G2X update, but for the time being at least the grass is definitely greener for me. OP I agree with t0ny0, your posts definitely sounds like you've got a bit of jealousy going there.

yo if you have a sensation why you still in this forum ?!

90teggy said:
Just my two cents. I ended up with the sensation. I still own my g2x. I feel so far the sensation is a better phone. I can't play my purchased tegra games which sucks. But I have a 50" tv with ps3 and 360 for all that nonsense. I need my phone to work and not be a pain in the as! I had a love hate relation with my g2x. Seems the bottom line is that the phone was a great idea but ended up a failure! Am very happy (so far) with the sensation, does what it is suppose to do. Haven't seen any dust or had any issues. Fingers crossed! I will be selling my g2x.
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I have to disagree about the g2x being a failure.

360? Red Rings? WHAT?!

mysterioustko said:
My sentiments exactly. I've had no issues with my sensation at all, and when compared to the issues I had with the G2X it isn't close. I'm at 17 days now with the Sensation and I have not had a single crash or reboot. Deathgrip is a non-issue and there is no screen bleed. While I do like G2X I feel like my Sensation is much more stable and reliable than it is. That may possibly change with a G2X update, but for the time being at least the grass is definitely greener for me. OP I agree with t0ny0, your posts definitely sounds like you've got a bit of jealousy going there.
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Jealously? Not really, though I would surely like that Samsung Inspire with its 4.5 super Amoled Plus screen. If Jealously is not the name of an Android phone yet....it surely will be soon.
I was trying to be "ironical" with the posting....actually I would say from the threads it looks to be about the same amount of issues....saying greater was an overstep. The grass is greener on the phone yet to be released is the basic point.
I do think that the G2x shipped earlier than it should have....it got to be the first dual on Android by that....it should have shipped with 2.3 by all rights. I sorta think the 2.3 release will be the first release.
I get throughput to my phone in good areas of 9000 mbps...I am wanting better reception in bad areas, but being new to TM and without the ability to use other phones, I am not sure if I am better or worse....I see some comments on reception on the Sensation being better....but not enough to be sure either way.
I like the Sensation as a phone, as with the G2x...too switch phones at this point is gonna be hard, unless I throw a tantrum. I had the ability inside of 30 to get the Sensation, so I was closely following it. I think they both have advantages....but what is keeping with the G2x is raw horsepower, which should be strong enough to run all the future Androids in the next two years or more.
I also like the real H-IPS screen, its near as good color wise as the Super Amoled+, much better than the Sensation on color and off angle viewing, and better for small text than the Amoled+, though its getting very close now with the +. The GF has Ip4, which is the best screen still, with zero bleed fwiw too.
SUPER-LCD is just a marketing term, its not any technology besides for being the most current and best TN technology for LCDs. Its TN still. Samsungs new PLS type is different from PVA though.
Besides the irony posting for the sensation awaiting the Sensation....I fully understand and can not fault either anyone who prefers one to the other. They are peer level phones, with physical advantages over each other. It a taste thing.....I would prefer the samsung Inspire 4.5 super amoled + over either....as a pure piece of hardware, nothing is close to the Iphone 4, glass on both sides, metal all the way around, lovely little brick....all wasted and nullified as soon as its put into an Otter. Most form factor stuff besides screen size is moot once its put in a case.
but I digress...I must be jealous, but I don't have enough commitment to be jealous of anything in particular, for long.

tombaker1 said:
Jealously? Not really, though I would surely like that Samsung Inspire with its 4.5 super Amoled Plus screen. If Jealously is not the name of an Android phone yet....it surely will be soon.
I was trying to be "ironical" with the posting....actually I would say from the threads it looks to be about the same amount of issues....saying greater was an overstep. The grass is greener on the phone yet to be released is the basic point.
I do think that the G2x shipped earlier than it should have....it got to be the first dual on Android by that....it should have shipped with 2.3 by all rights. I sorta think the 2.3 release will be the first release.
I get throughput to my phone in good areas of 9000 mbps...I am wanting better reception in bad areas, but being new to TM and without the ability to use other phones, I am not sure if I am better or worse....I see some comments on reception on the Sensation being better....but not enough to be sure either way.
I like the Sensation as a phone, as with the G2x...too switch phones at this point is gonna be hard, unless I throw a tantrum. I had the ability inside of 30 to get the Sensation, so I was closely following it. I think they both have advantages....but what is keeping with the G2x is raw horsepower, which should be strong enough to run all the future Androids in the next two years or more.
I also like the real H-IPS screen, its near as good color wise as the Super Amoled+, much better than the Sensation on color and off angle viewing, and better for small text than the Amoled+, though its getting very close now with the +. The GF has Ip4, which is the best screen still, with zero bleed fwiw too.
SUPER-LCD is just a marketing term, its not any technology besides for being the most current and best TN technology for LCDs. Its TN still. Samsungs new PLS type is different from PVA though.
Besides the irony posting for the sensation awaiting the Sensation....I fully understand and can not fault either anyone who prefers one to the other. They are peer level phones, with physical advantages over each other. It a taste thing.....I would prefer the samsung Inspire 4.5 super amoled + over either....as a pure piece of hardware, nothing is close to the Iphone 4, glass on both sides, metal all the way around, lovely little brick....all wasted and nullified as soon as its put into an Otter. Most form factor stuff besides screen size is moot once its put in a case.
but I digress...I must be jealous, but I don't have enough commitment to be jealous of anything in particular, for long.
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Oh yeah...you're jealous no doubt !!! I had a long reply written up and my brand new kitten stepped on my keyboard. Suffice to say, as owner of both, its a personal choice with both having merits. Both have issues too, as do all phones. Live and let die...buy what makes you happy...Stay thirsty my friend...so whatever they say on the TV.

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...Stay thirsty my friend...
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I usually don't drink.. but when i do, i drink dos equis.

These things amaze me. Many people just to prove their point or for whatever reason say that they use their phone for business or for taking videos and pictures of their child's first time doing something. who in their right mind would use g2x or sensation or any other smart phone for so important stuff like these? I don't use anything except landline for my work and for taking pictures or videos I don't use anything but my digital slr camera and handy cam. And I guess that's true for most people who are in their right mind. If you want to work, you need a landline and a computer. If you want to take pictures and videos there are devices specially for that. Smartphones are just to help you so that you can stay connected and don't miss on certain things not for hardcore work.
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jalshah05 said:
These things amaze me. Many people just to prove their point or for whatever reason say that they use their phone for business or for taking videos and pictures of their child's first time doing something. who in their right mind would use g2x or sensation or any other smart phone for so important stuff like these? I don't use anything except landline for my work and for taking pictures or videos I don't use anything but my digital slr camera and handy cam. And I guess that's true for most people who are in their right mind. If you want to work, you need a landline and a computer. If you want to take pictures and videos there are devices specially for that. Smartphones are just to help you so that you can stay connected and don't miss on certain things not for hardcore work.
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You, sir or ma'am, are still living in another era.

jalshah05 said:
These things amaze me. Many people just to prove their point or for whatever reason say that they use their phone for business or for taking videos and pictures of their child's first time doing something. who in their right mind would use g2x or sensation or any other smart phone for so important stuff like these? I don't use anything except landline for my work and for taking pictures or videos I don't use anything but my digital slr camera and handy cam. And I guess that's true for most people who are in their right mind. If you want to work, you need a landline and a computer. If you want to take pictures and videos there are devices specially for that. Smartphones are just to help you so that you can stay connected and don't miss on certain things not for hardcore work.
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phburks said:
You, sir or ma'am, are still living in another era.
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Just in case you have a flux capacitor handy, try jumping back into the 21st Century. I'll see if I can get Doc Brown to help you out

jlevy73 said:
Just in case you have a flux capacitor handy, try jumping back into the 21st Century. I'll see if I can get Doc Brown to help you out
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Lol thank God I always keep one handy.

jeffreynew23 said:
I love my G2X but at least the sensation shipped with gingerbread .
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think of it this way, no matter what a phone was shipped with, it will have flaws and SW updates will be required...so no matter what we are updating the device

I had a G2X....switched to a Sensation. Happy I did...but of course, to each their own.
I wanted the 4.3 qHD 16:9 display + 1080p @ 30fps in stereo.
Simple choice for me.
Silly how people say mine is best, mine is best. As soon as you get your next device the G2X will suck? Right?
Personal preference.
Both devices have their respective issues. Both devices outshine the other in different areas.
Come back to reality OP

No sir I am sure I am living in the current era and that's the reason I have house full of gadgets and also sensation and g2x. But I also like photography and I also like to work without thinking about dying battery or network outage. Have you ever seen any professional photographer taking pictures with his cell phone? Or have you seen any company putting out smart phone out on your desk? I wonder why. If I want to look at the photographs of my wedding or my honeymoon or my baby taking his first step or even outing with my friends I want them to be crispy clear. And no phone camera has ever taken pictures even close to even any entry level slr camera.
Phones and these gadgets are my hobby for which my work pays. But with these gadgets nobody can do any real world 8-10 hours job.
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Full Week review after owning the G2x first

First off this isn't another comparison to the G2x thread, but more of a Thank God I switched for the sensation thread.
The sensation Is gorgeous. At first it looked funny to me, but then, it started to look and feel like my old N1 (the back anyways). I love the design. The shell that completely cases the screen is awesome. The way their back is half the phone is incredible. Only thing id change is id put speakers on the bottom, I loved that about the G2x.
Speed is awesome. Yes its not as wham bamm boom boom like the g2x fast, but it is consistent in speed and its plenty fast enough considering the amount of recources the phone is using,( I.E. Sense and bloat). Like someone else mentioned also, its almost as if the apps on the sensation load faster, respond faster, etc. That could be due to the extra .2 ghz i guess.
Camera completely destroys the G2x. If camera was your strong point on the g2x, well the sensation has just as good of app for the camera and takes a pic a hell of a lot faster than the g2x. Although I think the G2x FFC is light years ahead of the grainy Sensation FFC. G2x actually took sweet FFC pics.
The Video camera is great. I love how if you get out of focus at any point, just touch the screen and let it refocus. the g2x wouldn't refocus worth a turd.
GPS is also better than the G2x. At first g2x was good, but then it just started taking longer to get locks.. Pissed me off. The sensation so far is a steady 5 seconds.. My tracks was also very nice. SO happy
Battery. Honestly Ive never really seen a difference in any of my phones.lol From the Htc touch, tp1, tp2, n1, vibrant, hd2 etc. They all seem to have the same general heavy use time (constant) but so far IMO its about the same is my G2x, but I was one with great battery on the g2x so that's saying the sensation has it good.
screen is awesome as well. WE all know there are 2 types and honestly I could really care which I get. Its not the selling point to me in the phone. Anyways its nice. The 4.3 really don't feel that big from the way they cut down on surrounding material beyond the screen. They fit it very nice into a little for factor and IMO the design of the back is how they achieved this.
This is my first sense device. Ive never been a fan cause it was to bloated and just wow. Sense 3.0 seems nice. Theres a lot to customize, but things are very organized and laid out nicely. Im still kinda learning the ropes, but all around I think its a darn stinking good UI, YETTTTT is a little hard on the battery.
Damn Damn Damn, Did I say Damn? I wish we had root. I need Screen shots, remove bloat, and download some of those cool apps that I didn't know even took root, until I re downloaded them and it denied me access. lol Who knew root was so important. lol. Although Im getting along without it.
Reception is good. My g2x struggled here and my sensation does much better. So 2 thumbs up for that shiat stew.
General bugs i've noticed are Just a ****ass piece of dust under the screen like 5, but honestly there so small that most people wouldn't (I read the smallest line at doctors that they dont even use on the test, just did if for ****s and giggles) see it and trying to get it replaced would be dumb since they probably wouldn't see it and Ive got all together a flawless device. I also never see them, period. Unless I'm in the sun and got all the other dust off (which is hard cause it instantly comes back, and even then, if you screen has em on em anyways, who cares about a few underneath unless it grows) and searching I cant see em. There is the Wifi bug, but I never experience it. you literally need to block the back, but it wont just do it anytime, its only when signal is weak for me. Almost like they got the DB vs Bars wrong, (if wifi uses even DB). Other than that. I have nothing wrong with mine.
The g2x man. Started out ok. GO to market place while on wifi, and it kicks you off wifi although still shows the wifi bars. Basically it just switched to data until you toggled back. I hated how the browser barely scrolled, to go down a long page you had to finger fuk the **** out of the screen. The camera was not the best for a 8 mp, and the video was pretty choppy. Then theres the screen bleed that at first didn't bug me, then it just was noticeable. My phone was solid though other than those issues, no reboots, until about 5 weeks later. Then it would happen probably every 2 days.
All in all if anyone is on the fence. Don't be. I was, I wanted to think my G2x was the **** and a software update would make it all better, But why wait? That still may not even fix the issue anyways. If your looking for the better phone by far all around? Then the sensation it is. EASY
Its actually nice to have a nice reliable phone. SENSATION FTMFWWWWWWWWWWWW
SORRY FOR MISSPELLINGS, PUNCTUATION, ETC. Im no college grad

I know a couple ass holes over in the G2X forum who won't appreciate this. As you know, I have both devices as well and prefer the Sensation over the G2X. There are a couple guys over in the G2X forum that will defend that thing until it blows up. They don't want to admit something else is better than the phone there stuck with for a couple years.

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I know a couple ass holes over in the G2X forum who won't appreciate this. As you know, I have both devices as well and prefer the Sensation over the G2X. There are a couple guys over in the G2X forum that will defend that thing until it blows up. They don't want to admit something else is better than the phone there stuck with for a couple years.
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Yes, I do know you have both. Actually your Posts helped me decide to get a sensation. Thanks again. Thank god im rid that G2x. It was nice at first. Just got crappy after a bit. Heated up a lot etc. This is great man. Yes, they will defend it to the end. lmfaoooo hell tegra can run on other devices not using Chainfire 3d so meh. No reason to keep a G2x.
Id love to link this in the g2x forum...lol make em mad.

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Yes, I do know you have both. Actually your Posts helped me decide to get a sensation. Thanks again. Thank god im rid that G2x. It was nice at first. Just got crappy after a bit. Heated up a lot etc. This is great man. Yes, they will defend it to the end. lmfaoooo hell tegra can run on other devices not using Chainfire 3d so meh. No reason to keep a G2x.
Id love to link this in the g2x forum...lol make em mad.
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I would link it there just to show them that there are many people who switched to the Sensation who thinks it's the all around better device.

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I would link it there just to show them that there are many people who switched to the Sensation who thinks it's the all around better device.
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hehe should cause a stir... Here we go. lol

And as JRwin knows I also have the g2x. I havent been able to do a side by side comparison yet because I traded one of my G2x's for the sensation and the other one LG had for repair. It's on the fed ex truck today. I do notice though that the g2x was a lot faster but to be fair it's running vanilla android and it was overclocked. I kind of do miss my G2x though and am looking forward to getting it back from LG today. The only issue I really had with my G2x was screen bleeding. It was acceptable on one (the one I traded) and really bad on the other that I sent to LG for repair. I think they are both great phones(if you get a g2x that doesnt have tons of issues which seems to be rare)
I really do love both phones. The guy from phone dog I think put it best. The G2x is a Ferrari that looks like an ugly car and the sensation is like a BMW 5 series, really nice looking and also a good performer but not as fast as the Ferrari

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I would link it there just to show them that there are many people who switched to the Sensation who thinks it's the all around better device.
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+1 and not looking back...this thing is SO much better.

graffixnyc said:
And as JRwin knows I also have the g2x. I havent been able to do a side by side comparison yet because I traded one of my G2x's for the sensation and the other one LG had for repair. It's on the fed ex truck today. I do notice though that the g2x was a lot faster but to be fair it's running vanilla android and it was overclocked. I kind of do miss my G2x though and am looking forward to getting it back from LG today. The only issue I really had with my G2x was screen bleeding. It was acceptable on one (the one I traded) and really bad on the other that I sent to LG for repair. I think they are both great phones(if you get a g2x that doesnt have tons of issues which seems to be rare)
I really do love both phones. The guy from phone dog I think put it best. The G2x is a Ferrari that looks like an ugly car and the sensation is like a BMW 5 series, really nice looking and also a good performer but not as fast as the Ferrari
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Maybe once you go back to the G2x you will realize sensation ftw? or maybe thats just your experience. Either way, great post. I also said to a lot of people before that guy said that, " the g2x is a muscle car with no bells and whistles and the sensation is a luxury car with bells and whistles just not as fast as the muscle car". lol
very true?
Also I think the route you go is great. Send in for repair instead of waist another store device and it will probably have a issue as well. My sensation is issue free other than a couple specs of dust so if I ever get bothered or it gets worse. Im doing that. Sending it in. I want this phone. lol

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I wanted to think my G2x was the **** and a software update would make it all better, But why wait?
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Because the G2x + CM7 >>>>>>>>>> Sensation
Once they ship the G2x with GB stock, the Sensation will be old news.

player911 said:
Because the G2x + CM7 >>>>>>>>>> Sensation
Once they ship the G2x with GB stock, the Sensation will be old news.
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lol you must have rated that thread a 1 star. lmaoooo
Ive tried cm7 up to build 55 before dumping that DUMP. CM7 was buggy shiznit. Brightness cant even be changed. lol Gps bad, in landscape screen sensitivity crap, and lets not mention the 20% off battery meter even after it was apparently fixed.
GB on the G2x will not be released for a while, and will bring more bugs.
For real, go in landscape, and try and touch the bottom of the bottom letters. lol they dont respond. Something wack with that phone.

I've been using the Verizon Fascinate (Galaxy S) since launch. When the G2x came out, I got that on launch day to check out T-Mobile and a potentially awesome phone. The G2x was okay, but it didn't feel like a full step up from my Galaxy S series phone. Then it got a little buggy and I didn't have confidence in it. I returned it and cancelled at the end of the 14-day window, because I felt the Sensation may give me the step up I was looking for.
I received my Sensation in the mail yesterday. Honestly, I'm ready to tell them to port my number NOW and cancel Verizon, but it hasn't even been 24 hours yet. I'll be patient and see what issues arise over the next few days as I know some issues take a while to surface (based on what I've read). Even so, the Sensation really is an awesome phone. As already written, I wish the speaker was somewhere else like on the G2x, but that's a design flaw most phones seem to have nowadays for some reason.
I also didn't imagine all the issues LG/T-Mobile are having with the G2x. Things have been real shady since the phone was launched. I'm real glad I jumped off that boat when I had the chance. There doesn't need to be any hate between any phone users - even if they use an iPhone. You have every right to love your device and dislike another. That being said, the Sensation definitely feels like a winner... but it is too soon to tell for sure.

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lol you must have rated that thread a 1 star. lmaoooo
Ive tried cm7 up to build 55 before dumping that DUMP. CM7 was buggy shiznit. Brightness cant even be changed. lol Gps bad, in landscape screen sensitivity crap, and lets not mention the 20% off battery meter even after it was apparently fixed.
GB on the G2x will not be released for a while, and will bring more bugs.
For real, go in landscape, and try and touch the bottom of the bottom letters. lol they dont respond. Something wack with that phone.
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Yeah, I have to agree about CM7. I didnt have too many issues with CM7 but being a CM7 user on other devices I could tell for sure CM7 on the GX2 still had a long way to go. I was actually running Faux's rom the last week or so I had it and it seemed the most stable for my daily use than any other G2X GB rom.

player911 said:
Once they ship the G2x with GB stock, the Sensation will be old news.
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Everyone that defends the G2X always does so with caveats. A phone should just work. Every high-end phone's going to have quirks because of all the crap that's crammed in to them. But at a minimum a phone should:
- Only turn off and on when the user wants it to
- Dial and receive calls consistently
- Bluetooth should allow you to store profiles, connect automatically to paired devices, and provide consistent sound output
- Wi-Fi should accurately find locations, connect to them quickly, remember them, and connect again automatically
- Allow you to switch between 2/3/4G and Wi-Fi without issue
- GPS should work consistently
The O2X/G2X have problems in all the above areas (except for the seven seemingly perfect phones all the apologists own). I don't care if a phone has eight-cores clocked at 3.0ghz if it can't do the above well its speed is useless. The O2X/G2X will be remembered much like the Yugo and original Hyundai Excel when all is said and done.
The O2X was released with the same issues the G2X is suffering. LG's had six months to develop fixes. The same people that broke it are the ones trying to fix it. I hope for all its fans sake LG eventually gets it right but based on their track record I'd bet against in Vegas if I could.
Samsung's been monitoring issues with the SGS2 and has so far rolled out three updates to the ROM and four updates to the camera firmware in six weeks time. I'd guess from history HTC will be just as attentitive. Why would/should it take LG six months of customers begging and being inconvenienced to get a fix out? Their competency has to be questioned.

smashpunks said:
lol you must have rated that thread a 1 star. lmaoooo
Ive tried cm7 up to build 55 before dumping that DUMP. CM7 was buggy shiznit. Brightness cant even be changed. lol Gps bad, in landscape screen sensitivity crap, and lets not mention the 20% off battery meter even after it was apparently fixed.
GB on the G2x will not be released for a while, and will bring more bugs.
For real, go in landscape, and try and touch the bottom of the bottom letters. lol they dont respond. Something wack with that phone.
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I'm 24hrs in to my Sensation. I have both yes. I got the Sensation because my son has it. It looked like it was worth the try.
I can't say I'm as impressed with the Sensation as you are. I probably won't keep it. But, that does not mean its not a good phone. It's impressive in its own right. Some things are better than the G2x...other things, not so much. I like Sense. I like the Camera speed, I like the stupid locking ring. I like the snappy performance, after setup. And the thing I liked the best, when going to a web page, I could read it right off...without the resizing required in the G2x.
Locked or unlocked bootloaders hold no important place for me. The Chefs on XDA are great. They do wonders with everything. Unlocked bootloaders are their domain. When the Sensation is unlocked...they will jump to it.
To me the Sensation feels off. I was a Nexus One fan and this does not feel like that. Close...but enough difference.
Right now there are enough good things between both phones to make everyone happy. If people feel they cannot wait for the fixes and updates on the G2x, the Sensation is a great choice. I can't blame them for wanting to have a phone that equals most of the expectations they had when they paid good money.
To each their own. I refuse to belittle anyone for 'jumping ship'. Its only natural to defend your own choice. Its also natural to ridicule those that do not agree with your choice. Both phones are good. It's like arguing which playmate of the month is better....Miss/Mr. January or Miss/Mr. February. For me, Don't worry, you be happy....ok?

BarryH_GEG said:
Everyone that defends the G2X always does so with caveats. A phone should just work. Every high-end phone's going to have quirks because of all the crap that's crammed in to them. But at a minimum a phone should:
- Only turn off and on when the user wants it to
- Dial and receive calls consistently
- Bluetooth should allow you to store profiles, connect automatically to paired devices, and provide consistent sound output
- Wi-Fi should accurately find locations, connect to them quickly, remember them, and connect again automatically
- Allow you to switch between 2/3/4G and Wi-Fi without issue
- GPS should work consistently
The O2X/G2X have problems in all the above areas (except for the seven seemingly perfect phones all the apologists own). I don't care if a phone has eight-cores clocked at 3.0ghz if it can't do the above well its speed is useless. The O2X/G2X will be remembered much like the Yugo and original Hyundai Excel when all is said and done.
The O2X was released with the same issues the G2X is suffering. LG's had six months to develop fixes. The same people that broke it are the ones trying to fix it. I hope for all its fans sake LG eventually gets it right but based on their track record I'd bet against in Vegas if I could.
Samsung's been monitoring issues with the SGS2 and has so far rolled out three updates to the ROM and four updates to the camera firmware in six weeks time. I'd guess from history HTC will be just as attentitive. Why would/should it take LG six months of customers begging and being inconvenienced to get a fix out? Their competency has to be questioned.
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This is an excellent post. I expect my phone to work like my Desktop or Laptop computer, turn it on and everything works, with the G2x it has been hit and miss!

WOW.. So I sent in my g2x because this one had really bad screen bleeding. The other 2 I had (one mine, one my daughter's) didnt have it nearly as bad as the one.. anyway.. I got it back today. On the repair form it said cause: scratch, action: replaced case (housing)
umm the phone didnt have a single scratch on it(it was brand new!) so they did a repair that didnt need to be done, and my issue still remains. I call them, he gets the repair facility on the line and they tell him screen bleeding is normal with TFT displays. I tell them I have two others and while they have it and it's acceptable, the one I sent them was very severe and protruded to the middle of the screen, not just the corners. Plus if you hold it on an angle you can see a white light bar across the top(which was not present on the other two) He gave me a supervisor who is now trying to get a supervisor from the repair facility to see if there is anything they can do in this case, but she doesnt think there is anything that can be done.. really LG?? really?? First and last LG smartphone I buy..

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First and last LG smartphone I buy..
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I feel exactly the same way. The horrifying thing is that Google's deciding between LG and HTC for production of the Nexus 4G this Fall. I hope folks from Google read XDA. The O2X is selling for 20% less than the SGS2, Sensation, and Atrix in Europe. I wonder why?

BarryH_GEG said:
Everyone that defends the G2X always does so with caveats. A phone should just work. Every high-end phone's going to have quirks because of all the crap that's crammed in to them. But at a minimum a phone should:
- Only turn off and on when the user wants it to
- Dial and receive calls consistently
- Bluetooth should allow you to store profiles, connect automatically to paired devices, and provide consistent sound output
- Wi-Fi should accurately find locations, connect to them quickly, remember them, and connect again automatically
- Allow you to switch between 2/3/4G and Wi-Fi without issue
- GPS should work consistently
The O2X/G2X have problems in all the above areas (except for the seven seemingly perfect phones all the apologists own). I don't care if a phone has eight-cores clocked at 3.0ghz if it can't do the above well its speed is useless. The O2X/G2X will be remembered much like the Yugo and original Hyundai Excel when all is said and done.
The O2X was released with the same issues the G2X is suffering. LG's had six months to develop fixes. The same people that broke it are the ones trying to fix it. I hope for all its fans sake LG eventually gets it right but based on their track record I'd bet against in Vegas if I could.
Samsung's been monitoring issues with the SGS2 and has so far rolled out three updates to the ROM and four updates to the camera firmware in six weeks time. I'd guess from history HTC will be just as attentitive. Why would/should it take LG six months of customers begging and being inconvenienced to get a fix out? Their competency has to be questioned.
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All good points. It really doesn't matter if someone does or does not have those issues. If you do, its important to you. Period. Only you can judge just how important it is.
Stop with the caveats....like it or not....move on...or not. Period.

alodar1 said:
I'm 24hrs in to my Sensation. I have both yes. I got the Sensation because my son has it. It looked like it was worth the try.
I can't say I'm as impressed with the Sensation as you are. I probably won't keep it. But, that does not mean its not a good phone. It's impressive in its own right. Some things are better than the G2x...other things, not so much. I like Sense. I like the Camera speed, I like the stupid locking ring. I like the snappy performance, after setup. And the thing I liked the best, when going to a web page, I could read it right off...without the resizing required in the G2x.
Locked or unlocked bootloaders hold no important place for me. The Chefs on XDA are great. They do wonders with everything. Unlocked bootloaders are their domain. When the Sensation is unlocked...they will jump to it.
To me the Sensation feels off. I was a Nexus One fan and this does not feel like that. Close...but enough difference.
Right now there are enough good things between both phones to make everyone happy. If people feel they cannot wait for the fixes and updates on the G2x, the Sensation is a great choice. I can't blame them for wanting to have a phone that equals most of the expectations they had when they paid good money.
To each their own. I refuse to belittle anyone for 'jumping ship'. Its only natural to defend your own choice. Its also natural to ridicule those that do not agree with your choice. Both phones are good. It's like arguing which playmate of the month is better....Miss/Mr. January or Miss/Mr. February. For me, Don't worry, you be happy....ok?
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well spoken...

alodar1 said:
All good points. It really doesn't matter if someone does or does not have those issues. If you do, its important to you. Period. Only you can judge just how important it is.
Stop with the caveats....like it or not....move on...or not. Period.
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I ask this purely out of curiosity, not to be antagonistic. How do you use your phone that any or all of the above would be acceptable? I'm starting to think there are two different groups of phone users here: 1) phone as a workhorse, and 2) phone as a hobby. I consider myself a part of the first group and my G2X became history (at great expense) when it rebooted itself in the middle of a conference call to Asia. As a hobby, I could see where the idiosyncrasies of the G2X would actually make it fun but as a device to depend on, not so much. To each their own I guess.