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Am I crazy? I want to exchange for a Nexus One...

Captivate is a bigger, better-spec phone. And it's new! I just had it for a little bit over a month.
But I am thinking about exchanging it for a Nexus one... a used N1... Am I crazy?
My reasons...
1. Nexus one is beautiful! Whenever I look at my phone, I can't stop thinking it as a thinner and bigger Blackberry storm (which I don't like). It's just not as sexy as the other phone in the market.
2. Better support. Already on 2.2. Stock OS. No dealing with Samsung anymore. No stupid waiting anymore...
I am kinda serious. I actually look it up on craigslist and try to see if there is anything...

mwxiao said:
Captivate is a bigger, better-spec phone. And it's new! I just had it for a little bit over a month.
But I am thinking about exchanging it for a Nexus one... a used N1... Am I crazy?
My reasons...
1. Nexus one is beautiful! Whenever I look at my phone, I can't stop thinking it as a thinner and bigger Blackberry storm (which I don't like). It's just not as sexy as the other phone in the market.
2. Better support. Already on 2.2. Stock OS. No dealing with Samsung anymore. No stupid waiting anymore...
I am kinda serious. I actually look it up on craigslist and try to see if there is anything...
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From where? T-Mo? Ebay? Google isn't selling them anymore.

terrigan said:
From where? T-Mo? Ebay? Google isn't selling them anymore.
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He did say used. Inb4damove
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Well if he can find one, more power to him. And he can rock Cyanogenmod at least.

My friend has a Nexus One, and it's a great phone, but I wouldn't trade my Captivate for it. Our screens are nicer, our GPU is better, and I haven't had any issues with GPS. Just wished we had an optical track pad (don't think the trackball would match our phone). Both phones are great. If you really can't stand the BB Storm look, you're not gonna go wrong with the Nexus One.

I mean both are great phones and the luxury of first updates is nice and it does look fun in the nexus forum lol
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Short answer: Yes, you are crazy.
Long answer: Nothing against the Nexus One, I do like it, but I would never trade a captivate for it. Better processor, better screen, better multitouch, and I actually think the phone looks nice; several people have commented that they think it is sexiest phone ever and they want one (talking about Captivate in this sentence). I do not care much Samsung's support either, but I can wait for froyo.

You are pretty crazy, be a little patient for 2.2 + gps fix.
The epic is out, the fascinate is out tomorrow, and this phone is better in all ways.
Summary:
Galaxy s family dev support/share (captivate,vibrant,fascinate,epic)
Better screen, gpu/proccesor, and speed!
Captivate is the sexiest variant imo (not a fugly blackberry storm)
did I mention stock JH2 + sre = about 1900 quadrant w/o lagfix 0,o
can you imagine 2.2 (optimizations, all usage of ram, and the NEW lagfix that will make the whole phone ex2/4!?)
Yeah it'll be extreeeeeeemely fast

i wouldn't exchange my captivate for an n1, but i wouldn't mind owning one on the side to tinker with...

I have never understood why people get so hung up on what the hell their phone 'looks' like. Is it more important that someone sees you using a phone that looks pretty or the fact that you have a phone that does what you want and has the powerful hardware underneath to back it up? I really wish someone would explain it to me, lol!

Personally, have had the Nexus One and the Captivate. The screen (due to thinner glass layer) is sooooo much better on the SGS its not funny.
Never liked the trackball on the Nexus. I hated the power button which had a mind of its own so I would use No Lock from the market, which would get activated in my pocket by the trackball (lol)).
The SGS does have a better processor (that always helps I suppose). Froyo out of the gate is fantastic but how bad will you feel if the update comes along the day you change over?
Go with whatever you want as you ultimately will

ukulele_ninja said:
I have never understood why people get so hung up on what the hell their phone 'looks' like. Is it more important that someone sees you using a phone that looks pretty or the fact that you have a phone that does what you want and has the powerful hardware underneath to back it up? I really wish someone would explain it to me, lol!
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Well, it's because the "powerful hardware underneath (it)" is pretty much the same. All the high-end smartphones have quite similar specs. They are all more than capable to "back it up".
Besides, this is the tech world. "Powerful hardware" is always a relative term. Your powerful phone might be out in just a couple of months.
But the design could be very different. It's the thing you have to look at every day for the next 18 months.
Hope it explains to you.

Nesus S Specs Depressing...

So the specs were released for the Samsung Nexus S and I am very disappointed.
1GHz Cortex A8 (Hummingbird) processor
16GB iNAND flash memory
The AMOLED Screen should be nice, the only thing that is nice about this phone.
It is basically a Galaxy S with Gingerbread ROM. More internal memory.
It will be a nice phone, but I expected a dual core processor.
I hate non physical buttons as my N1 had lots of issues with them.
I honestly don't see myself upgrading to this phone...
No 4G, No Front Face Camera, and a Samsung built phone.
I will stick with my MyTouch4G and I think the rumors of developing for the G2/MT4G were gonna stop when the Nexus S was released were just that rumors. There will be development for it... but it will be to set up CM7 (Gingerbread) for older phones.

It has a front facing camera and has capabilities to run HSDPA

It does have the FFC, but no hsdpa+. I still think it fails. STILL NO LED NOTIFICATIONS EITHER!!

It does have a front facing camera. I was holding out on getting the MyTouch 4G for this phone. Now I'm still pretty torn on which I should get. This is really unsettling!

VDubLife said:
It has a front facing camera and has capabilities to run HSDPA
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Ya I was wrong about the FFC but still no HSPA+.... that sucks...

I am very disappointed in this phone, and in Gingerbread. I was expecting a lot of wow in both and I don't see it. I'm not saying it won't have major speed improvements, but I thought GB was supposed to be a UI gangster =D. Oh well there's always next year (HoneyComb).

The Nexus S is simply a US version of the Euro Galaxy S with stock Android on board, NFC chipset, downgraded Bluetooth connectivity, no 720p video capture and no removable storage (no SD card). Compared to the MT4G it has less RAM (mt4g = 768mb nexus = 512mb), no hspa+ capability. So in my opinion the only upside to the nexus S is stock Android w/ up to date OS upgrades from Google, and 16gb of on board storage.
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I really don't get why they fingered Samsung to build the Next Nexus device. Maybe because they build phones like Apple.... With trendy advertisement and the illusion of awe. Lol. Only Apple can sell millions of people a 10 in pad that does nothing more than the average smart phone out there..
Avatar helped, didn't it? HTC makes great devices and they opt for "Quietly Brilliant".

sicdroid said:
I really don't get why they fingered Samsung to build the Next Nexus device. Maybe because they build phones like Apple.... With trendy advertisement and the illusion of awe. Lol. Only Apple can sell millions of people a 10 in pad that does nothing more than the average smart phone out there..
Avatar helped, didn't it? HTC makes great devices and they opt for "Quietly Brilliant".
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I think they went with samsung cuz of the near field chip. Google is said to be pretty excited about it.

itmustbejj said:
I think they went with samsung cuz of the near field chip. Google is said to be pretty excited about it.
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Yeah, NFC is a nice piece of tech and an advancement for sure... I wish them luck, but I know there is going to be a lot of pissed developers, modders, and just plain device users not having an SD Card. The whole point of Android and Googles revolution is the open freedom. What is next???? A Unremovable battery?

sicdroid said:
I really don't get why they fingered Samsung to build the Next Nexus device. Maybe because they build phones like Apple.... With trendy advertisement and the illusion of awe. Lol. Only Apple can sell millions of people a 10 in pad that does nothing more than the average smart phone out there..
Avatar helped, didn't it? HTC makes great devices and they opt for "Quietly Brilliant".
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Most big business transactions are done via a sealed bid process. It's quite possible that Samsung had the lowest bid and won the contract.

kgbkny said:
Most big business transactions are done via a sealed bid process. It's quite possible that Samsung had the lowest bid and won the contract.
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No doubt money was the motivation, which does surprise me. Google is not afraid to spend money. You would think as open as google is with their VERY FAT wallet, they would have not chosen the cheaply made plastic device as opposed to the metal and durable devices for their very own Nexus Series. I guess I just dream of the solid build of metal and glass we ask love on our MT4G, with a 4.3 screen, and no physical buttons.
I understand their reasons for the choice, I just don't understand the reasons of their choices. Lol.

sicdroid said:
No doubt money was the motivation, which does surprise me. Google is not afraid to spend money. You would think as open as google is with their VERY FAT wallet, they would have not chosen the cheaply made plastic device as opposed to the metal and durable devices for their very own Nexus Series. I guess I just dream of the solid build of metal and glass we ask love on our MT4G, with a 4.3 screen, and no physical buttons.
I understand their reasons for the choice, I just don't understand the reasons of their choices. Lol.
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It's quite possible that Samsung used the success of the Galaxy S series to seal the deal with Google. We all know about the serious issues with Galaxy S phones. However, they sold millions of units worldwide and have established brand recognition. I'm certain that Google took that into consideration when awarding Samsung the Nexus contract.
Moreover, it appears that Samsung used a different GPS antenna in the Nexus S than in the Galaxy S, and got rid of the RFS system. It's quite possible that Google had a lot of say in it. In fact, the replacement of the GPS antenna clearly suggests that the faulty GPS in the Galaxy S phones is a hardware defect.

kgbkny said:
It's quite possible that Samsung used the success of the Galaxy S series to seal the deal with Google. We all know about the serious issues with Galaxy S phones. However, they sold millions of units worldwide and have established brand recognition. I'm certain that Google took that into consideration when awarding Samsung the Nexus contract.
Moreover, it appears that Samsung used a different GPS antenna in the Nexus S than in the Galaxy S, and got rid of the RFS system. It's quite possible that Google had a lot of say in it. In fact, the replacement of the GPS antenna clearly suggests that the faulty GPS in the Galaxy S phones is a hardware defect.
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Samsung has established brand recognition within the android community...and it is not good. Specifically within the developer crowd, so it seems counterproductive to make a developer phone from a company that most developers have sworn to stay away from.

I think I made a right decision getting MT4 after I heard NS won't have memory card support and AMOLED.

Not Having a SD will make it difficult to MOD/Hack
I'm sorry but I love Google I've had every developer phone hated to sell my nexus one but the Nexus S is not spiking my interest at all. It is lacking toooooo much. Plus the MT4G has been upgrading pretty quickly it's already rooted and I know CM won't let us down on Gingerbread GO ANDROID

itmustbejj said:
Samsung has established brand recognition within the android community...and it is not good. Specifically within the developer crowd, so it seems counterproductive to make a developer phone from a company that most developers have sworn to stay away from.
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Agreed. Chalk me up as a member of the Android community who will not be buying any more Samsung phones. However, money definitely talks, and I'm sure that factor definitely came into play.

Samsung is a powerful consumer name so there's "cred" there. Also, Google may well not have wanted to put too many eggs in the HTC basket. You get a LOT better support from your vendors if they know they are not single source. So it may have had a lot less to do with unit cost and a lot more to do with reminding HTC they are not the only game in town (my opinions differ but I have to use the device, not write contracts with the vendor).
Overall the Nexus S is better than I would have expected from Samsung. Their "cred" comes with a lot of "consumer grade" baggage; I generally avoid their products. It is probably unfair at this point to call Samsung "cheap junk", but no one is going to accuse them of building high end equipment either.
Comparison wise: I waited about 7 months for project emerald, driving everyone around me only somewhat more crazy than normal in the process. I got the Glacier on the release date and cannot say a single bad thing about it. It is a worthy example of the ultra-high quality I expect from HTC.

I bought a behold the day it came out and dealt with its problems. I had a stock vibrant for 4 days when it started with its problems. I will never buy samsung again. Can't believe google allowed a company known for defects to produce their next flagship. Ill stick to my mt4g till something that actually beats it comes out.
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The Nexus S is very ugly, average specs, Samsung made and I'm not happy. I will keep my Nexus One, never sell it and guess I'll keep the MyTouch 4G.
PS - No SD card, no HSPA+, I can not believe no sd card. I always rave about the Nexus One to anyone who will listen, because of that I wanted the Nexus S real bad but I am a real nut when it comes to cell phones. I will probably figure some way of buying that damn thing anyways.

HTC Sensation official - HTC London Live Event

Looks like the best choice for those looking to upgrade to native Android on a dual core beast
Think I'll be holding on to my HD2 for an extra month as my upgrade is middle of May but will be released in mid June on official carrier partners so fingers crossed O2.
Read the live blog now: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/12/live-from-htcs-april-12th-event/
Looks like a great phone to me and my ideal replacement.

Not impressed
I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. The Galaxy S 2 either matches or beats this phone in almost every respect. It's shorter, thinner and a lot lighter. It has 33% more RAM, and 16 times the onboard storage. The front camera has more than double the pixel count, and it has NFC support. While the HTC has a slightly higher screen resolution, it has a smaller screen area than the S2 because it has a higher aspect ratio (i.e. it's narrower).
It seems HTC can't even play catch-up very well now.

I think the Pyramid (I'm not keen on the new sensation name) is gonna be my next phone, though my upgrade isn't till next year so maybe something shinier will be around by then.
I have to admit the spec on the Galaxy S2 is impressive but i'm not feeling the looks. It honestly looks like a poorly executed iPhone4

Moandal said:
I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. The Galaxy S 2 either matches or beats this phone in almost every respect. It's shorter, thinner and a lot lighter. It has 33% more RAM, and 16 times the onboard storage. The front camera has more than double the pixel count, and it has NFC support. While the HTC has a slightly higher screen resolution, it has a smaller screen area than the S2 because it has a higher aspect ratio (i.e. it's narrower).
It seems HTC can't even play catch-up very well now.
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The samsung might be good on paper but living with them is a different story,ive had an i8910.looked great on paper at the time,great looking phone but build quility,a major let down,had 3 in total and gave up and got a htc hero at the time,htcs go on for years,much better built

I'm also not keen on the current Galaxy S's screen as comes across with a blue tint, the AMOLED screen doesn't seem to do white well at all. I'm guessing it'll be similar on the S2. Yeah it's smaller, lighter and thinner but I'm not keen on plastic phones tend to break easier, my HD2 has been dropped numerous times and survived with little evidence. I'm liking the Sensation alot regardless of paper comparisons.

Link to video
I had a samsung galaxy s and sold it with in 48 hours. I've had so many htc phones and really haven't had a complaint yet. plus htc just purchased cwm, so they care about our community here. And that's the most important to me.
On a side note. Tried the atrix and only liked the web top and hdmi out features. Sold it on the same day I got it. Still rocking the hd2.

Had my G1 up until about 3 months ago when i sold it for 150 and bought my brand new hd2. I am currently available for an upgrade on Tmobile. This will be my next new phone. I hope the 1500 ma battery can hang. I'm wondering if maybe the evo ed's 1750 ma battery will fit the sensation. If that is the case this is gonna be a great phone. It will be a great phone even if it doesnt fit. Since this is clearly a flagship phone I'm sure someone will make a case with the extra battery built in. I'm pumped for this phone. Congrats to me!

if you are claiming to be a high-end phone, and want to be acknowledged as such - and you don't have a freaking flash - you are immediately withdrawn from contention IMO. Therefore the Galaxy is not part of the discussion. I am tired of companies making phones they way they see fit and ignoring the basic needs of the consumers.
With that said, though I like what I am seeing, I am going to have to see what goes on with the AT& T merger. I can see them sneaking some language in there about having to roll over to AT&T if I get that particular phone. If T-mo DOES NOT merge this will be my next phone unless HTC or Motorola is coming out with a phone that sports Tegra for graphics/games.
Until then it will be me and my HD2.

The sensation will be my next phone for sure.
The biggest point for me is the qHD screen! I prefer the resolution over the SGS II as well as the body quality.
Doesn't hurt that there's dual mics for stereo recording of videos

My next phone. Period.
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steve austin said:
if you are claiming to be a high-end phone, and want to be acknowledged as such - and you don't have a freaking flash - you are immediately withdrawn from contention IMO. Therefore the Galaxy is not part of the discussion. I am tired of companies making phones they way they see fit and ignoring the basic needs of the consumers.
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What are you talking about? The Galaxy S 2 most certainly has Adobe Flash 10.1.

Moandal said:
What are you talking about? The Galaxy S 2 most certainly has Adobe Flash 10.1.
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excuse me, flash for the camera. most of the world, with cell phones, don't live where there is daylight 24/7. utilization of facebook and other social media sites are major factors when considering a phone. to not have a flash, in 2011, is beyond asinine - irrespective of other specs and features.

Moandal said:
What are you talking about? The Galaxy S 2 most certainly has Adobe Flash 10.1.
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He's talking about camera flash. I was going to get this phone, but I decide to get the evo 3d. Sexier looking and has 1gig compared to 768 of sensation

t-mo recently sent me a text about upgrading to the Galaxy. Essentially, giving me an early upgrade option. I hope they do that with this phone (barring any merger shenanigans)

mattfmartin said:
He's talking about camera flash. I was going to get this phone, but I decide to get the evo 3d. Sexier looking and has 1gig compared to 768 of sensation
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thank you.
On the EVO note. I am really going to compare the EVO 3d and the Sensation. That merger might give me the get out of jail free card I need.

steve austin said:
thank you.
On the EVO note. I am really going to compare the EVO 3d and the Sensation. That merger might give me the get out of jail free card I need.
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Exactly what I was thinking, with the whole merger that it's going to be going down in the future.

mattfmartin said:
He's talking about camera flash.
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But it's got that too, so I still don't understand.

DarkStone1337 said:
The sensation will be my next phone for sure.
The biggest point for me is the qHD screen! I prefer the resolution over the SGS II as well as the body quality.
Doesn't hurt that there's dual mics for stereo recording of videos
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I know that you said you probably wouldn't have time to cook anything again but I always held hope that you would return with another completely innovative idea. Sad to know that you won't even be in this section anymore. Maybe that means I'll have to by a Pyramid and keep hoping over there .

any ideas if telstra or any other att 3g compatible carrier will be getting this? if so it will be my next phone.

Sensation will be this years phone, and i ll buy it.
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Was reading over at the Sensation Thread... That new phone has ZERO issues, aww some

Take a gander over at the Sensation thread....way more concerns than the G2x.
1. Death Grip.
2. Assembly issues.
3. Screen not being sealed, dust getting in, joints not connected.
4. Switching automatically into Silent mode.
5. Two screen manufacturers one with very bad viewing angles SHARP....AUO seemly the better one....jury still out.
6. Speaker and microphone problems.
7. Touchscreen problems.
I am pretty sure some threads will be started about how TMOnews is saying the Sensation is being pulled. Some earnest posters will soon be saying they want to do a class action for their 1 week old phone, instead of just returning it outright.
Basically everything is always greener on the phone that is yet to be released. At least with LG you actually will get a screen made by LG. HTC is kinda like the Vizio of cell phones.
Remember: Doing a full system rebuild reset (clearing out everything and reset option) will cool down your phone, and extend battery length. Something about recognizing the battery size properly is thought to be reason. Its the first thing to do on a new phone. Accessed through the menus

Come on Tom. I am happy with my G2X but I am sure that the Sensation will not be pulled from stores for a month without any word from HTC and T-mobile . I'm also sure that folks that have them don't have to go through 3 of them to get a working one or flash a custom rom to keep it from rebooting. AGAIN . I love my G2X but at least the sensation shipped with gingerbread .
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tombaker1 said:
Take a gander over at the Sensation thread....way more concerns than the G2x.
1. Death Grip.
2. Assembly issues.
3. Screen not being sealed, dust getting in, joints not connected.
4. Switching automatically into Silent mode.
5. Two screen manufacturers one with very bad viewing angles SHARP....AUO seemly the better one....jury still out.
6. Speaker and microphone problems.
7. Touchscreen problems.
I am pretty sure some threads will be started about how TMOnews is saying the Sensation is being pulled. Some earnest posters will soon be saying they want to do a class action for their 1 week old phone, instead of just returning it outright.
Basically everything is always greener on the phone that is yet to be released. At least with LG you actually will get a screen made by LG. HTC is kinda like the Vizio of cell phones.
Remember: Doing a full system rebuild reset (clearing out everything and reset option) will cool down your phone, and extend battery length. Something about recognizing the battery size properly is thought to be reason. Its the first thing to do on a new phone. Accessed through the menus
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Lets not be jealous of what other people have.
I had the G2x from day one till a week ago. Had so many issues, with bleeding, with phone rebooting, with EVERYTHING. My brother and my girlfriend also had the same issues with the G2x. I got the sensation, and I have had 0 issues so far.
Yes, the only thing is death grip, but guess what.. the G2x has it too. Every phone has it. But when do you get it ? Only when you put the phone in the palm of your hand, and cover it completely.
If someone holds the phone like that - they are probably not supposed to have a phone in the first time.
So please dont go talking **** about the Sensation, just by looking at what the noobs are saying about it.
Like every other phone - there are a few issues with it, as some people get dust and whatnot, but guess what - they get a replacement and it works.
I got 3 G2x replacements - all had the same issues as the previous. Constant rebooting or freezing, horrible HORRIBLE backlight bleeding.. NO THANK YOU! I use my phone for business and can not afford using a phone that will randomly just freeze and not work at all.
Again, I have had 0 issues with my sensation, other than the fact that it has no root so far. But we are getting there. And not just me - I got 3 phones, they all work perfectly fine.
Go ahead, get yourself a sensation, feel it, see it, play with it - and then say that the G2x is better.

tombaker1 said:
Take a gander over at the Sensation thread....way more concerns than the G2x.
1. Death Grip.
2. Assembly issues.
3. Screen not being sealed, dust getting in, joints not connected.
4. Switching automatically into Silent mode.
5. Two screen manufacturers one with very bad viewing angles SHARP....AUO seemly the better one....jury still out.
6. Speaker and microphone problems.
7. Touchscreen problems.
I am pretty sure some threads will be started about how TMOnews is saying the Sensation is being pulled. Some earnest posters will soon be saying they want to do a class action for their 1 week old phone, instead of just returning it outright.
Basically everything is always greener on the phone that is yet to be released. At least with LG you actually will get a screen made by LG. HTC is kinda like the Vizio of cell phones.
Remember: Doing a full system rebuild reset (clearing out everything and reset option) will cool down your phone, and extend battery length. Something about recognizing the battery size properly is thought to be reason. Its the first thing to do on a new phone. Accessed through the menus
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I have both the phones with me. Below are the things i found in my usage.
1) I tried to play some games on sensation and I just couldn't. The games i am talking about are NANO PANDA, JENGA, KONAS CRATE, PEGGLE. I could load them and play for only 10 mins max. It was really really slow. But G2X was treating these games like piece of cake. So fast and easy to load. On top of that when i try to play these kind of games and then go back home on sensation, the sense would do a soft reset itself because of memory issue or whatever it may be.
2) Whenever i restart my phone, i loose the icons from my home of the apps which are on SD card. Time to Time i also have to delete widgets from home screen and add them back on, otherwise i get jagged lines on the widgets.
3) on the same wifi network g2x was able to pull 10mbps down, 3 mbps up. At the same time sensation was able to pull 4mbps down and 2.5mbps up. STRANGE.
4) Stability wise still sensation is a little bit better than G2X. But when you use sensation for 1 week straight and do not touch G2X. And after that week when you play with G2X, my GODDDD, you will feel the speed. G2X is so so so much faster and fluid than sensation.
NOTE TO PPL WHO ARE CONSIDERING SENSATION:-
its a good phone, but its nowhere near g2x imo. wait for the g2x patch, i am sure that would resolve all the software related issues. do not rush and get sensation. trust me, you are just getting one hell of a laggy but beautiful phone.

Well the G2x is pretty sound hardware wise... it just shipped with crappy software. At least it was unlocked and able to allow the Devs here to fix them.
Hardware problems are different. The Sensations touchscreen issues could be resolved via drivers... or they could just have a crappy digitizer like we had on the Nexus One (fake multitouch). These are things that make the phone kinda crappy because it could turn into a real issue that is unresolvable.
I don't know but lets be real, every phone I've had I run custom roms. If a custom rom is a good fix to solve pretty much all the problems of a new phone... wouldn't it make sense to go that route instead of just enduring the issues?
The Sensation is currently locked down so no devs are able to try and fix those issues. Your forced to stick it out until either HTC sends out an updated rom (months) or they unlock the bootloader (maybe never, but probably eventually).
Those are some crappy odds. I'd much rather take the much more powerful G2x, load a custom CM7 rom, and have the best of both worlds. I have a newer version of Android on my G2x then the Sensation has (2.3.4 vs 2.3.3), it is super fast, solid, and more powerful. Why would anyone not want that?

Just my two cents. I ended up with the sensation. I still own my g2x. I feel so far the sensation is a better phone. I can't play my purchased tegra games which sucks. But I have a 50" tv with ps3 and 360 for all that nonsense. I need my phone to work and not be a pain in the as! I had a love hate relation with my g2x. Seems the bottom line is that the phone was a great idea but ended up a failure! Am very happy (so far) with the sensation, does what it is suppose to do. Haven't seen any dust or had any issues. Fingers crossed! I will be selling my g2x.
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t0ny0 said:
Lets not be jealous of what other people have.
I had the G2x from day one till a week ago. Had so many issues, with bleeding, with phone rebooting, with EVERYTHING. My brother and my girlfriend also had the same issues with the G2x. I got the sensation, and I have had 0 issues so far.
Yes, the only thing is death grip, but guess what.. the G2x has it too. Every phone has it. But when do you get it ? Only when you put the phone in the palm of your hand, and cover it completely.
If someone holds the phone like that - they are probably not supposed to have a phone in the first time.
So please dont go talking **** about the Sensation, just by looking at what the noobs are saying about it.
Like every other phone - there are a few issues with it, as some people get dust and whatnot, but guess what - they get a replacement and it works.
I got 3 G2x replacements - all had the same issues as the previous. Constant rebooting or freezing, horrible HORRIBLE backlight bleeding.. NO THANK YOU! I use my phone for business and can not afford using a phone that will randomly just freeze and not work at all.
Again, I have had 0 issues with my sensation, other than the fact that it has no root so far. But we are getting there. And not just me - I got 3 phones, they all work perfectly fine.
Go ahead, get yourself a sensation, feel it, see it, play with it - and then say that the G2x is better.
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My sentiments exactly. I've had no issues with my sensation at all, and when compared to the issues I had with the G2X it isn't close. I'm at 17 days now with the Sensation and I have not had a single crash or reboot. Deathgrip is a non-issue and there is no screen bleed. While I do like G2X I feel like my Sensation is much more stable and reliable than it is. That may possibly change with a G2X update, but for the time being at least the grass is definitely greener for me. OP I agree with t0ny0, your posts definitely sounds like you've got a bit of jealousy going there.

yo if you have a sensation why you still in this forum ?!

90teggy said:
Just my two cents. I ended up with the sensation. I still own my g2x. I feel so far the sensation is a better phone. I can't play my purchased tegra games which sucks. But I have a 50" tv with ps3 and 360 for all that nonsense. I need my phone to work and not be a pain in the as! I had a love hate relation with my g2x. Seems the bottom line is that the phone was a great idea but ended up a failure! Am very happy (so far) with the sensation, does what it is suppose to do. Haven't seen any dust or had any issues. Fingers crossed! I will be selling my g2x.
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I have to disagree about the g2x being a failure.

360? Red Rings? WHAT?!

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My sentiments exactly. I've had no issues with my sensation at all, and when compared to the issues I had with the G2X it isn't close. I'm at 17 days now with the Sensation and I have not had a single crash or reboot. Deathgrip is a non-issue and there is no screen bleed. While I do like G2X I feel like my Sensation is much more stable and reliable than it is. That may possibly change with a G2X update, but for the time being at least the grass is definitely greener for me. OP I agree with t0ny0, your posts definitely sounds like you've got a bit of jealousy going there.
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Jealously? Not really, though I would surely like that Samsung Inspire with its 4.5 super Amoled Plus screen. If Jealously is not the name of an Android phone yet....it surely will be soon.
I was trying to be "ironical" with the posting....actually I would say from the threads it looks to be about the same amount of issues....saying greater was an overstep. The grass is greener on the phone yet to be released is the basic point.
I do think that the G2x shipped earlier than it should have....it got to be the first dual on Android by that....it should have shipped with 2.3 by all rights. I sorta think the 2.3 release will be the first release.
I get throughput to my phone in good areas of 9000 mbps...I am wanting better reception in bad areas, but being new to TM and without the ability to use other phones, I am not sure if I am better or worse....I see some comments on reception on the Sensation being better....but not enough to be sure either way.
I like the Sensation as a phone, as with the G2x...too switch phones at this point is gonna be hard, unless I throw a tantrum. I had the ability inside of 30 to get the Sensation, so I was closely following it. I think they both have advantages....but what is keeping with the G2x is raw horsepower, which should be strong enough to run all the future Androids in the next two years or more.
I also like the real H-IPS screen, its near as good color wise as the Super Amoled+, much better than the Sensation on color and off angle viewing, and better for small text than the Amoled+, though its getting very close now with the +. The GF has Ip4, which is the best screen still, with zero bleed fwiw too.
SUPER-LCD is just a marketing term, its not any technology besides for being the most current and best TN technology for LCDs. Its TN still. Samsungs new PLS type is different from PVA though.
Besides the irony posting for the sensation awaiting the Sensation....I fully understand and can not fault either anyone who prefers one to the other. They are peer level phones, with physical advantages over each other. It a taste thing.....I would prefer the samsung Inspire 4.5 super amoled + over either....as a pure piece of hardware, nothing is close to the Iphone 4, glass on both sides, metal all the way around, lovely little brick....all wasted and nullified as soon as its put into an Otter. Most form factor stuff besides screen size is moot once its put in a case.
but I digress...I must be jealous, but I don't have enough commitment to be jealous of anything in particular, for long.

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Jealously? Not really, though I would surely like that Samsung Inspire with its 4.5 super Amoled Plus screen. If Jealously is not the name of an Android phone yet....it surely will be soon.
I was trying to be "ironical" with the posting....actually I would say from the threads it looks to be about the same amount of issues....saying greater was an overstep. The grass is greener on the phone yet to be released is the basic point.
I do think that the G2x shipped earlier than it should have....it got to be the first dual on Android by that....it should have shipped with 2.3 by all rights. I sorta think the 2.3 release will be the first release.
I get throughput to my phone in good areas of 9000 mbps...I am wanting better reception in bad areas, but being new to TM and without the ability to use other phones, I am not sure if I am better or worse....I see some comments on reception on the Sensation being better....but not enough to be sure either way.
I like the Sensation as a phone, as with the G2x...too switch phones at this point is gonna be hard, unless I throw a tantrum. I had the ability inside of 30 to get the Sensation, so I was closely following it. I think they both have advantages....but what is keeping with the G2x is raw horsepower, which should be strong enough to run all the future Androids in the next two years or more.
I also like the real H-IPS screen, its near as good color wise as the Super Amoled+, much better than the Sensation on color and off angle viewing, and better for small text than the Amoled+, though its getting very close now with the +. The GF has Ip4, which is the best screen still, with zero bleed fwiw too.
SUPER-LCD is just a marketing term, its not any technology besides for being the most current and best TN technology for LCDs. Its TN still. Samsungs new PLS type is different from PVA though.
Besides the irony posting for the sensation awaiting the Sensation....I fully understand and can not fault either anyone who prefers one to the other. They are peer level phones, with physical advantages over each other. It a taste thing.....I would prefer the samsung Inspire 4.5 super amoled + over either....as a pure piece of hardware, nothing is close to the Iphone 4, glass on both sides, metal all the way around, lovely little brick....all wasted and nullified as soon as its put into an Otter. Most form factor stuff besides screen size is moot once its put in a case.
but I digress...I must be jealous, but I don't have enough commitment to be jealous of anything in particular, for long.
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Oh yeah...you're jealous no doubt !!! I had a long reply written up and my brand new kitten stepped on my keyboard. Suffice to say, as owner of both, its a personal choice with both having merits. Both have issues too, as do all phones. Live and let die...buy what makes you happy...Stay thirsty my friend...so whatever they say on the TV.

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...Stay thirsty my friend...
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I usually don't drink.. but when i do, i drink dos equis.

These things amaze me. Many people just to prove their point or for whatever reason say that they use their phone for business or for taking videos and pictures of their child's first time doing something. who in their right mind would use g2x or sensation or any other smart phone for so important stuff like these? I don't use anything except landline for my work and for taking pictures or videos I don't use anything but my digital slr camera and handy cam. And I guess that's true for most people who are in their right mind. If you want to work, you need a landline and a computer. If you want to take pictures and videos there are devices specially for that. Smartphones are just to help you so that you can stay connected and don't miss on certain things not for hardcore work.
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These things amaze me. Many people just to prove their point or for whatever reason say that they use their phone for business or for taking videos and pictures of their child's first time doing something. who in their right mind would use g2x or sensation or any other smart phone for so important stuff like these? I don't use anything except landline for my work and for taking pictures or videos I don't use anything but my digital slr camera and handy cam. And I guess that's true for most people who are in their right mind. If you want to work, you need a landline and a computer. If you want to take pictures and videos there are devices specially for that. Smartphones are just to help you so that you can stay connected and don't miss on certain things not for hardcore work.
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You, sir or ma'am, are still living in another era.

jalshah05 said:
These things amaze me. Many people just to prove their point or for whatever reason say that they use their phone for business or for taking videos and pictures of their child's first time doing something. who in their right mind would use g2x or sensation or any other smart phone for so important stuff like these? I don't use anything except landline for my work and for taking pictures or videos I don't use anything but my digital slr camera and handy cam. And I guess that's true for most people who are in their right mind. If you want to work, you need a landline and a computer. If you want to take pictures and videos there are devices specially for that. Smartphones are just to help you so that you can stay connected and don't miss on certain things not for hardcore work.
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phburks said:
You, sir or ma'am, are still living in another era.
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Just in case you have a flux capacitor handy, try jumping back into the 21st Century. I'll see if I can get Doc Brown to help you out

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Just in case you have a flux capacitor handy, try jumping back into the 21st Century. I'll see if I can get Doc Brown to help you out
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Lol thank God I always keep one handy.

jeffreynew23 said:
I love my G2X but at least the sensation shipped with gingerbread .
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think of it this way, no matter what a phone was shipped with, it will have flaws and SW updates will be required...so no matter what we are updating the device

I had a G2X....switched to a Sensation. Happy I did...but of course, to each their own.
I wanted the 4.3 qHD 16:9 display + 1080p @ 30fps in stereo.
Simple choice for me.
Silly how people say mine is best, mine is best. As soon as you get your next device the G2X will suck? Right?
Personal preference.
Both devices have their respective issues. Both devices outshine the other in different areas.
Come back to reality OP

No sir I am sure I am living in the current era and that's the reason I have house full of gadgets and also sensation and g2x. But I also like photography and I also like to work without thinking about dying battery or network outage. Have you ever seen any professional photographer taking pictures with his cell phone? Or have you seen any company putting out smart phone out on your desk? I wonder why. If I want to look at the photographs of my wedding or my honeymoon or my baby taking his first step or even outing with my friends I want them to be crispy clear. And no phone camera has ever taken pictures even close to even any entry level slr camera.
Phones and these gadgets are my hobby for which my work pays. But with these gadgets nobody can do any real world 8-10 hours job.
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GSM i9250 Galaxy nexus vs HTC Sensation.. Why i kept the Nexus.

Well hey guys. I've been getting alot of questions on whether people should go and get a nexus or keep the sensation since i was an extremely early adopter of the sensation and a huge HTC Fan. To be honest, i like the nexus, probably 10 more times than i liked the sensation, and here's why.
NO OVERHEATING. As many of you know, the sensation likes to get all hot and bothered. But, it gets a little too hot. its gotten hot on me to the point it burned the inside of my gel case i bought for it. The nexus has YET to even start to get a LITTLE warm, and trust me i charged it exactly how i did the sensation. Probably one of the main reasons i like the nexus.
BUILD QUALITY.Personally i love the way both of these devices are built. But in the end i have to give it to the Nexus. Reason being i like that the device literally feels PERFECT in the hand to me. the perfect mix between not too light but not ridiculous like the razr. I've had alot of experience with the lte nexus since i work for verizon and i like the gsm version more because its more thin and light.
GPS. Now i don't understand why people hate samsung for their crappy gps from what i read. This is the first smartphone i've ever owned that picked up my location at my house DIRECTLY THE FIRST TIME. Not two houses over or a block. My exact home address. Every other phone put me somewhere else, including the sensation.
BATTERY LIFE! I've never, ever, EVER, EVER had a phone thats lasted longer than this nexus has. im on 1 day,3h,24 min on battery with 34 percent left! NEVER have i had battery life this good. Most will say "hey shaq, your not using the phone thats why its lasting so long.derp derp derp" You want to know what i say to that? " NO boy, i've been using this phone constantly especially since its new and i've only had it for two days. Silly ass. "
Besides the screen which obviously goes to the nexus, this is why im keeping it. I don't know if many of you will even care about this, but this is for those who were wondering thats all. This isn't a biased review AT ALL seeing as i never liked samsung, don't like the sgs2 or any of their devices (yes even the Nexus S) and this is the first samsung device i've ever bought, and i'm extremely impressed. Hope this helps those on the gate about this phone.

Shaquiel Harris said:
Well hey guys. I've been getting alot of questions on whether people should go and get a nexus or keep the sensation since i was an extremely early adopter of the sensation and a huge HTC Fan. To be honest, i like the nexus, probably 10 more times than i liked the sensation, and here's why.
NO OVERHEATING. As many of you know, the sensation likes to get all hot and bothered. But, it gets a little too hot. its gotten hot on me to the point it burned the inside of my gel case i bought for it. The nexus has YET to even start to get a LITTLE warm, and trust me i charged it exactly how i did the sensation. Probably one of the main reasons i like the nexus.
No issues here.
BUILD QUALITY.Personally i love the way both of these devices are built. But in the end i have to give it to the Nexus. Reason being i like that the device literally feels PERFECT in the hand to me. the perfect mix between not too light but not ridiculous like the razr. I've had alot of experience with the lte nexus since i work for verizon and i like the gsm version more because its more thin and light.
Felt the nexus, ain't worth ****. Just like an LG Optimus 2x
GPS. Now i don't understand why people hate samsung for their crappy gps from what i read. This is the first smartphone i've ever owned that picked up my location at my house DIRECTLY THE FIRST TIME. Not two houses over or a block. My exact home address. Every other phone put me somewhere else, including the sensation.
Fast fix, here the same. Unrooted phone.
BATTERY LIFE! I've never, ever, EVER, EVER had a phone thats lasted longer than this nexus has. im on 1 day,3h,24 min on battery with 34 percent left! NEVER have i had battery life this good. Most will say "hey shaq, your not using the phone thats why its lasting so long.derp derp derp" You want to know what i say to that? " NO boy, i've been using this phone constantly especially since its new and i've only had it for two days. Silly ass. "
Got 2 days and 5 hours with standard rom, mediocore usage. Always 3G.
Besides the screen which obviously goes to the nexus, this is why im keeping it. I don't know if many of you will even care about this, but this is for those who were wondering thats all. This isn't a biased review AT ALL seeing as i never liked samsung, don't like the sgs2 or any of their devices (yes even the Nexus S) and this is the first samsung device i've ever bought, and i'm extremely impressed. Hope this helps those on the gate about this phone.
Guess you had a mondaymorning device
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Must say, the only reason I should use a Nexus is because of the Amoled. But since it ain't got sense.
It has nothing.
Not to forget.. It only has a 5mpixel camera aswell.

Redshark976 said:
Must say, the only reason I should use a Nexus is because of the Amoled. But since it ain't got sense.
It has nothing.
Not to forget.. It only has a 5mpixel camera aswell.
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Android 4.0 honestly destroys what sense ever was honestly if you gave it a try.
Samsung Actually makes cameras, their 5mp camera could easily be compared to a moto or htc camera and be on par or even beat it. It has one of the best camera sensors out on a phone. Megapixels don't determine how good the camera is . Trust me, i've done alot of tests against one another.

lol about the pyramid GPS, you're wrong, i tryed it at lobby of a big complex and it found my location in 30sec.

No microSD card slot.
No mass storage mode (so I can't use iTunes Agent)
No offline sync with PC for calendar and contacts (old fashioned I know, but I just don't want to sync with Google's sevrers).
No in-built DLNA app (Google really need to up their game with core functionality like this and implement full GUI mirroring to TVs/monitors via DLNA or wifi direct as standard so we can do more with our devices)
Other than that, I probably would've bought the Nexus too.
It would be nice if the Sensation didn't gently toast my backside when it's in my pocket ; )

Guys it looks like you are trying to change Shaqs mind. Don't, it will only lead to misunderstandings an flame wars.
@Shaq, thanks for sharing, you aren't the first person which said that he likes GN more than Sensation, but you are the first to explain why. While I disagree with heat issue (mine never got that hot) the rest of the point can be only understood by direct comparison (not possible in my case). Also, we don't know what HTC is going to come up with for the next Sense, but i have a feeling it's going to be rather yummy.
But all in all, possibility of me going to GED is higher and higher every day I use Android.

I would trade my sensation for a nexus in a heartbeat if it wasn't so. Damn big

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Android 4.0 honestly destroys what sense ever was honestly if you gave it a try.
Samsung Actually makes cameras, their 5mp camera could easily be compared to a moto or htc camera and be on par or even beat it. It has one of the best camera sensors out on a phone. Megapixels don't determine how good the camera is . Trust me, i've done alot of tests against one another.
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I've got to agree with you on both points, I'm a avid htc fan but from the leaked ICS sense roms htc have seriously messed it up and I'm not talking about the obvious lags as it is a leak, and yes Megapixels count for nothing its all about the sensor
Sent from a galaxy far far away

Nice nice! I've tho heard that the nexus have a rubbish battery life, but then it is better than the sensation, so that's good.
When I saw the nexus, I thought about buying it, too but the lack of SD card made me go nono ^^

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I don't know if many of you will even care about this, but this is for those who were wondering thats all.
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That would be me. I'm too strapped for cash right now to even consider getting a GN, but I did wonder how much better (or worse) it was compared to Sensation. So thanks for this.
Lack of SD card slot does kill me a little inside, but I'm sure the overall user experience makes you forget that. I had an iPhone previously, so I'm sure I could get over the lack of SD slot.

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I would trade my sensation for a nexus in a heartbeat if it wasn't so. Damn big
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It's not that big. Remember it has no hard keys so it's only marginally bigger than the Sensation.

The OP should have just said this:
I like the Nexus over the Sensation because I WORK FOR VERIZON
troll thread can be closed

GSM i9250 Galaxy nexus vs [INSERT ANY SMARTPHONE].. Why i kept the Nexus.
Its kinda surprising to see senior members troll. I understand you wanted to share your opinion really bad to justify your purchase but imo there is a better place to do that. I visit this forum to learn/discover something new about a device I own. I dont care why you choose GN or any other phone.

To the last two individuals, why did you read this post and comment? If you didnt care about this you wouldn't have commented..right? I dont quite understand the logic of you posting in my thread. If no one cared, people wouldnt have read nor commented this thread. Are you guys feeling good about yourselves posting such nonsense?
If i liked it because i work for verizon, i would have got the lte version.
As stated, this thread is for those who wanted to know why i liked it , silly troll.
Sorry folks, it made me giggle reading those comments.

My sensation is fine. Unless quad core phones start to come out now. The nexus got so many flaws and it's overwhelming too
That's just my opinion
you had yours too
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Pikabat said:
GSM i9250 Galaxy nexus vs [INSERT ANY SMARTPHONE].. Why i kept the Nexus.
Its kinda surprising to see senior members troll. I understand you wanted to share your opinion really bad to justify your purchase but imo there is a better place to do that. I visit this forum to learn/discover something new about a device I own. I dont care why you choose GN or any other phone.
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then dont come in the thread .... its nice to see some comparisons between phones

I just bought my GN from mobile daily steals. Hasn't been shipped yet. How much are mint condition sensations selling for at present?

Thank you for the short review.
I'm currently considering getting the Motorola RAZR or the Galaxy Nexus in white.
Just can't shake the feeling that it would prolly be stupid of me to buy now, when we got new flagship phones from HTC or Samsung just around the corner.
They'll prolly announce something new at CES, so let's see

Galaxy nexus all the way..

Typical response from Sensation owners who will call you a troll if you ever say any device is better than the Sensation. Ignore them, they are absolutely ignorant. I appreciate the honest review and it seems like the same things I would notice if I switched over to the GN.
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