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Nexus S or MyTouch 4G?

Im currently using a MyTouch 4G and my return period is about to end. On Dec 3. So i can't keep one and wait for the other.
Should i return it for a Nexus S, which is said to release on Dec 6, or should i keep it.
For this post im assuming the rumors of the Orion processor are true
I bet many of you have this question in mind,
A RAM-filled, Expresso Machine
-OR-
A Dual-Core, Stock God
The main reason im considering comparing the two is because the MyTouch has a very nice build quality, and the pics of the Nexus S suggest that it is a plasticy feel.
Some things i will lay out for you
Screen (Quality & Size)
Nexus > MyTouch
Overall Feel
Nexus < MyTouch
I would appreciate some advice, and thx in advanced
PS: Im waiting to root till i have made my decision

C.
put in a little O/T at work and have them both

agentaaron said:
C.
put in a little O/T at work and have them both
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If only i could
btw im a student, so studies first, then work

Based on the rumors, the Nexus S appears to be very similar to a Samsung Vibrant, except for the dual-core processor and vanilla Android. As a prior Vibrant owner (we all know about the Galaxy S fiasco), I won't be purchasing any more Samsung phones, regardless of what their specs are rumored to be. HTC, on the other hand, definitely makes solid phones. Even Motorola has produced some impressive offerings over the course of the year (Droid X, Droid 2).
If you're really considering the Nexus S, I highly suggest considering Samsung's reputation and basing your decision on their past missteps. After the disaster with Behold II and Galaxy S, what's to say they won't release another lemon?

kgbkny said:
Based on the rumors, the Nexus S appears to be very similar to a Samsung Vibrant, except for the dual-core processor and vanilla Android. As a prior Vibrant owner (we all know about the Galaxy S fiasco), I won't be purchasing any more Samsung phones, regardless of what their specs are rumored to be. HTC, on the other hand, definitely makes solid phones. Even Motorola has produced some impressive offerings over the course of the year (Droid X, Droid 2).
If you're really considering the Nexus S, I highly suggest considering Samsung's reputation and basing your decision on their past missteps. After the disaster with Behold II and Galaxy S, what's to say they won't release another lemon?
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Thx for this informative post.
This really is one thing i should consider

I like the MT4G, but it seems to be lacking dev support. I was not happy with the vibrant (lag, gps, battery life, etc.) therefore I have mixed feelings regarding the nexus s just and a little weary because samsung is making it.
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The MyTouch 4G has great hardware, but lacking the awesome dev support

I'm currently in the same dilemma. I've got until wednesday to remorse my mytouch out. So far, I've been quite happy with the mytouch. I feel like I'd be happy keeping this phone, but I also feel like I'll always be thinking "what if"in the back of my mind.
Anyway, I keep reading that the nexus s will only be sold in stores like best buy.. I'm sure it's too early to tell, but does anyone have any ideas as to how the pricing for the nexus will work.
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I'm in the same boat but my remorse period starts tomorrow.
I love this phone but I've yet to get one without some kind of minor or major defect.
My g1 was perfect, but returned four vibrants and on my fourth my touch. Despite that I think this is a much better phone.
I wish the phone had more dev support, I remember the vibrant ramping up much faster.
The hardware in the sammy should be great, but the bad gps in the galaxy s line scares me. I actually like slcd better for everyday stuff. Next to the my touch, I can really see the blue hue on the samoled screen and the screen door text kills my eyes. Plus, though the blacks are the best, I hate having to have everything black themed to get any battery life on it.
I would say screw waiting on the nexus, but the thought of that amazing hardware paired with google dev support is hard to pass up. It's hard too believe that it will suck since it will be a dev phone. I missed the nexus 1 boat last time. Probably means android will finally be optimized for samsung s guts, instead of just htc, and sammy reduced to brute forcing for performance.
Another thing that makes me want it is that it will be the first of the next gen of phones if it truly has orion in it. From what I read about it, might make tegra 2 obsolete before it comes out.
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i have had used a nexus one and that was the only reason i was comparing the nexus s. But ya like all of you have said earlier, samsung cant make 100% solid devices, but the quality of HTC devices r worth trusting

For me, it's all about connectivity... if the Nexus S doesn't have HSPA+, I'm keeping the MT4G.

Even if the no HSPA+ radio is true, I honestly don't see that being a deal-breaker. I live in an HSPA+ area and I average about 2.5-3mbps which is the exact same as a non HSPA+ T-Mo phone in the same area. The only difference is the non HSPA+ phones won't go above 7.2 mbps but so far neither can I so that's a non-issue for me.
Coming from an Evo, I agree with the comments about the dev scene being scarcer than other phones (but the few we do have are really stepping up).
I am taking the stance that I am keeping my MT4G thru remorse, and waiting to see what people's response to the Nexus S after its out for a couple weeks is. At that point I can still ebay/craigslist my MT4G for most of what it's worth right now anyway and get the Nexus S if it ends up being the end all be all.
At this point I would rather know I have a reliable, awesome phone that might be a tad light on the dev side than a potentially big samsung flop phone.

Zoltair Wright said:
For me, it's all about connectivity... if the Nexus S doesn't have HSPA+, I'm keeping the MT4G.
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Ditto.
I love this phone! Had the G1, skipped the G2 for this (wanted front cam).
I LOVE the build of this phone and hopefully the dev will come soon.
I think I'm going to stick with the MT4G.

I loved my nexus one!!!!! but i love my MT4G better cause of the front facing camara...but i did like the look and feel of the my samsung vibrant....so i just might have to go with the Nexus S.

Something to consider:
With all of the purported hardware improvements, and state-of-the-art inclusions, haven't they still seen fit to omit an led for notifications, and a trackball/track pad, for navigating through text and so forth?
It would be a shame if you had a Ferrari of a phone, that had to rely on NoLED to let you know when you had a missed call or text.
Just my .02

The Mytouch 4G is an excellent piece of hardware. I have good reception, no problems with the GPS, the screen is very responsive and the battery life is amazing. I could care less about Gingerbread too. What do you want with the newest Android version when your phone may have severe hardware flaws. I don't trust Samsung neither their hardware nor their software. I had an HTC N1 the newest android version couldn't help covering the several hardware flaws this device had. I am glad that I found a good piece of hardware.

Mine (MT4) is on the way and I am supposed to receive it in 2 days.
I go for MT4 this time because I need the trackpad and wifi calling, and I may get NS 3 months later.

Jayrod1980 said:
The hardware in the sammy should be great, but the bad gps in the galaxy s line scares me.
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It looks like the GPS issues were addressed:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/28/samsung-nexus-s-reappears-at-the-fcc-with-a-pair-of-new-antennas/
I think the Nexus S has enough potential that I would wait to see the end result before committing to the MT4G (or any other phone for that matter). You have to remember that Google is probably closely involved in the project which may result in more quality control than usual (see antenna replacement for example). I'm also intrigued by the Near Field Communication chip. If the Nexus S ends up living up to it's hype the dev support will probably be awesome. If it doesn't you can always go back to your phone of choice.
I ended up returning my MT4G before the end of my remorse period (which is 30 days if you buy it full price from a t-mobile store and not online). For those who can't go back to your old phones just remember that BestBuy and RadioShack both have 30 day return policies with no restocking fees

I will most likely get the Nexus S even though I've had the worse experience with Sammy and the Vibrant, simply because I cant say no to the 2nd generation, of the best phone ever made running on dual core.
I just ordered the MyTouch 4g today though, while I wait for reviews on the Nexus. I just had enough of this not so very MOD/DEV friendly phone they call the Vibrant. aka (My Piece of Shyet Phone) lol
Although I love the SAMOLED, the size, camera, and the look of the Vibrant. The software side, the random freezes and the need for Lag and GPS fix (That never really worked) just made it a BIG disappointment.
I know it might be wishful thinking with Sammy being the maker of the Nexus S, but since it will be a Google flagship device, I could only hope for better support and quicker updates than the Galaxy S series.

Kienz said:
Something to consider:
It would be a shame if you had a Ferrari of a phone, that had to rely on NoLED to let you know when you had a missed call or text.
Just my .02
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Maybe a little premature to assume this?

Google ... another mess???

I was really excited when I heard the rumours about the nexus S along with 2.3.
Now it's been released I am extremely disappointed. It is no different from the Samsung galaxy S, which in my opinion was not a good device to start with, with it's cheap plastic design, lag problems and GPS issues etc. They even dropped the SD card slot which was the final nail in the coffin for me. Didnt implement hspa+ and dropped the bluetooth 3.0.
So for now i'll be sticking to my HTC desire with a custom 2.3 rom when it becomes available.
I suppose 2.3 comes with some welcomed features but we will have to wait till honeycomb to see the full UI update i guess.
What are your thoughts? Will the nexus S be your next device?
Let me know what you think.

I don't know but HTC is also full of problems too, i hope people realize that HTC uses cheap crap into their phones, the nexus one's awful touch screen, tiny speakers, dust under the screen, power button problems. I don't understand why people praise HTC so much i mean their warranty isn't stellar, having to send your phone for 3 weeks isn't very appealing.
Galaxy S to start with is already a better phone than the nexus one, the GPS works and everything works in the vibrant.
Your comment seems like from just another misinformed user.

dhiral.v said:
What are your thoughts?
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My thoughts are that people who complain about Google not releasing the phone of their dreams have missed the point of the Nexus S

I think:
No SD card= no problem, It's a phone after all guys, if you need music I would get an iPod, I use Pandora or groove shark anyways...I can't even fill my 8Gb card as it is!
Plastic Build= This is not a problem for me either because it's googles phone, i bet it will feel solid after all and I like the classy black gloss look so im biased anyways...
No HSPA+ = I don;t think many people are actually getting up to the 7mb anyways, but in the near future I think T mobile will be updating it to a whopping 21Mb so this is a bit upsetting but I only get edge at my house anyways so I'm okay with this too
This is the ONLY fully supported GOOGLE PHONE as of now remember. The nexus one is slowly dying
That's why I will have mine on the 16th!

Not sure why so many people complain about the Galaxy S line of phones. I have the Fascinate and I am not getting lag, the plastic case is plenty durable, my GPS also works fine.

tekkitan said:
Not sure why so many people complain about the Galaxy S line of phones. I have the Fascinate and I am not getting lag, the plastic case is plenty durable, my GPS also works fine.
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EXACTLY i held a fascinate and it felt so solid! I just don't understand it....and HSPA+? You can still get up to 7.2 MB, but that isn't good enough? I mean that flies on my Nexus one already! I dont need any more speed.

I think you should read the first post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867112

Why, I think Google ****ed up.....having Best Buy Launch it

irishrally said:
I think you should read the first post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867112
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Love it
It's amazing to me how Google could come out with "the best android phone to date" (Endgadget's verdict) and yet people still complain

slowz3r said:
Why, I think Google ****ed up.....having Best Buy Launch it
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would you have perferred WalMart?
lets keep it real, GOOGLE missed on the N1 because you couldnt walk into a national retailer, touch it, feel it, try it.
Best Buy Mobile is one of the best places to get a smartphone if not the best, they certainly have the most and best prices. rebates anyone? any retailer is going to have idiots who dont know what theyre talking about...trust me it would be worst in a WalMart, Shack, or Target for example.

greenstuffs said:
I don't know but HTC is also full of problems too, i hope people realize that HTC uses cheap crap into their phones, the nexus one's awful touch screen, tiny speakers, dust under the screen, power button problems. I don't understand why people praise HTC so much i mean their warranty isn't stellar, having to send your phone for 3 weeks isn't very appealing.
Galaxy S to start with is already a better phone than the nexus one, the GPS works and everything works in the vibrant.
Your comment seems like from just another misinformed user.
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I'm not praising HTC at all. I don't agree that HTC uses cheap crap in their phones. HTC's design and build quality is one of the best in the industry. I do agree no phone is perfect, Some HTC's do have problems like the lack of a good quality speaker and the multi-touch issues on the N1. However the new HTC line up looks promising such as the G2/desire z and desire HD etc.
When I was playing on my friends galaxy S I did notice the lag issue and GPS problems. To me the actual build quality seemed cheap. However I will say, great processor and internal hardware, with that gorgeous AMOLED screen. That's just my experience of the device.
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My thoughts are that people who complain about Google not releasing the phone of their dreams have missed the point of the Nexus S
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I think you might be missing the point I am trying to make.
I wasn't expecting the phone of my dreams, far from it. My point is that the specs are almost identical to that of the galaxy S. With exception to the NFC and gyro of course.
The reason why expandable memory is a deal breaker for me, amongst other things, is the fact they are removing a feature, I know for some people this will be fine, but it reminds me of the iphone and how apple removes basic features, in their closed system.
The nexus S could have been great, but it was rushed for release just for the Christmas season.
Above all that here in the UK its going to cost a whopping £550 on launch day!
I think the nexus S will be fine for most, but there's nothing revolutionary about it.

The last I heard about a "revolutionary" phone was from steve job's mouth. Just sayin. I don't think google is saying this is a revolutionary device. Nexus named phone just means its Google's baby.
Some people just have too much expectation.
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I don't agree on making a general comment like HTC rocks and Samsung sucks or vice versa.In gadgets world, you have to take each product and review it as it is. About build quality , I have a cheap Samsung slide phone and it has been taking some awful falls for a while, on hard floors and streets and although it's fully made of plastic, it amazed me how it's still holding up with just scratches and it's performing just like the first day I got it. There is no one device that can fit all people, everyone has something to look for in his phone. For me, NS fits me the most now. You might have some other specifications that you are looking for too, so this might not be your phone.

Couple of key points for me...
Not realy '****ed' up per se, just dropped the ball on a couple of points:
NO HSPA+= No purchase for me, my next phone has to have it (currently with HD2)
No HD video recording. WTF!? I'm sure someone will unleash it in a custom ROM or hack, but off the bat, just plain doopid!
I was almost there until I found out those 2 points. I'd rather get a MyTouch 4G.
Cyph

google probably said "screw u htc for trying to make it harder to root"
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Madcypher said:
NO HSPA+= No purchase for me, my next phone has to have it (currently with HD2)
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What do you think you're going to do with speeds above 7mbps?

No 4G, No HD Video, No SD Slot. These are staples in current cell phones. Is it that hard for google to put in a phone? NO PURCHASE.

j.bruha said:
What do you think you're going to do with speeds above 7mbps?
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ever heard of tethering?

donniestarko said:
No 4G, No HD Video, No SD Slot. These are staples in current cell phones. Is it that hard for google to put in a phone? NO PURCHASE.
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Ever heard of trolling?

donniestarko said:
No 4G, No HD Video, No SD Slot. These are staples in current cell phones. Is it that hard for google to put in a phone? NO PURCHASE.
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My point exactly, why remove features??? And wasn't the fact that android phones have expandable storage, differentiated it from the iphone...

[Q] Nexus one versus Nexus S

Do you really think the Nexus S will make half the splash in the phone world that the Nexus One did? I am no longer an android fanboy as I feel android has passed it's prime but I do want to pose this question. I mean the Nexus S seems good on paper but really all it is is another galaxy S device with a front facing camera. The processor is still the same which will likely lead to the same buffer issues that caused lag on the other devices (though some blamed this on touchwiz) and it still feels very cheap and plasticky. I think the majority like at least a little heft with their phones, not a paperweight but enough so you know that if you drop it it wont break like an egg. I wanted to find out the opinion of the XDA community

z33dev33l said:
Do you really think the Nexus S will make half the splash in the phone world that the Nexus One did? I am no longer an android fanboy as I feel android has passed it's prime but I do want to pose this question. I mean the Nexus S seems good on paper but really all it is is another galaxy S device with a front facing camera. The processor is still the same which will likely lead to the same buffer issues that caused lag on the other devices (though some blamed this on touchwiz) and it still feels very cheap and plasticky. I think the majority like at least a little heft with their phones, not a paperweight but enough so you know that if you drop it it wont break like an egg. I wanted to find out the opinion of the XDA community
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I'm thinking quite of the opposite: I think the Nexus S will have a bigger impact on the phone world, since you're able to buy it from real stores and more places than just online without a contract. Most people who buy cellphones don't want to put down the whole $$$ right then.
And what I'd be curious of: Have you held one in your hand and tested it on beeing "cheap and plasticky"? I have a Galaxy S and I'm pretty happy with it, I don't need any type of metal to ruin my reception.

Unfortunately it is a little "plasticy." I'm afraid to set my Nexus down on any surface that might possibly scratch plastic, and when it's hot my hand gets VERY sweaty on the plastic backing. It's also an ungodly fingerprint magnet. One of the prime reasons I'm switching to a G2. Why have a "super sexy" phone if it's only "super sexy" after I scrub it with a microfiber cloth and set it on my desk without touching it?

* no led notification
* no expandable memory
* made by Samsung
These are big disappointments for me. I don't want an " i " like device so stupid how Samsung is trying to model after it. Wish HTC made the successor to the nexus, at least updates with them are reasonable.

magicriggs said:
* no led notification
* no expandable memory
* made by Samsung
These are big disappointments for me. I don't want an " i " like device so stupid how Samsung is trying to model after it. Wish HTC made the successor to the nexus, at least updates with them are reasonable.
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To be fair, the updates with the Nexus S are handled by Google and therefore basically instant.

magicriggs said:
* no led notification
* no expandable memory
* made by Samsung
These are big disappointments for me. I don't want an " i " like device so stupid how Samsung is trying to model after it. Wish HTC made the successor to the nexus, at least updates with them are reasonable.
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Unfortunately it is a little "plasticy." I'm afraid to set my Nexus down on any surface that might possibly scratch plastic, and when it's hot my hand gets VERY sweaty on the plastic backing. It's also an ungodly fingerprint magnet. One of the prime reasons I'm switching to a G2. Why have a "super sexy" phone if it's only "super sexy" after I scrub it with a microfiber cloth and set it on my desk without touching it?
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You actually said quite everything I was thinking about this phone. I had one for 30mins and I actually prefer my x10 to it since I'm waiting for a phone that is REALLY better to change.

TheBiles said:
To be fair, the updates with the Nexus S are handled by Google and therefore basically instant.
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Really didn't know that my experience with Samsung was based off the fascinate and Samsung support was lack there of. But it makes sense it's a Google phone so it will get the updates quicker..duh. lol wasn't thinking.

I think the Nexus S will make a very little splash compared with the Nexus One. When the N1 came out it featured hardware many had never seen before (One of the first phones with a 1ghz processor, I believe the only one that came before it was the HD2 in Europe). The Nexus S is laughable by comparison and I will tell you why.
-It has the nearly same specs as Galaxy S devices
It it bad enough that this phone did not live up to expectations by using the same hardware that existing phones already have, it makes the situtation worst when every major U.S. carrier ALREADY has a variant of nearly the same hardware.
-No Micro SD card slot
I feel this will be the future but there is a small problem with this. The Galaxy S line has 16gb of onboard storage AND a Micro SD slot, why take something away?
-No Notification Light
On my phone when I recieve and SMS or E-Mail my notification light starts blinking to let me know I have something to check. On this device (as well as SGS variants) you have no Notification Light so you must hit the power button just to check to see if you have a notification.
-It only uses T-Mobile's 3g band (in the US)
With Google's advertising campaign they are obviously taking a page out of Apple's playbook (If you have seen the commercial you know what I am talking about). The Nexus One was available on At&t so it provided users an alternative to getting an iPhone to get the best hardware and software Android has to offer (at the time of the initial launch anyway). If the first Nexus device had At&t 3g bands then surely Google would want to compete with Apple again right, wrong! Why take an Apple-esque approach to an Ad campaign and not compete on the same carrier?
-No HSPA+
We have already addressed this only has 3g on T-Mobile. T-Mobile has been rolling out HSPA+ pretty aggressively as of late to try to compete with WiMax and the soon to be LTE devices. You would think Google's premier device would be rocking the new 4g data speeds but surprising it isn't. The G2 and MyTouch 4G take advantage of HSPA+ but the supposed "Pure Google" device doesn't, horrible.
The selling points of the Nexus S aren't very strong to the average consumer. NFC is nearly useless right now outside of scanning Google provided material. "Pure Google" is probably the worst niche of all. The majority of consumers that buy Android devices do not know the advantages of Pure Google or know the difference betweens Eclair, Froyo, and Gingerbread. To make matters worst the consumers who do know the advantages of a "Pure Google" experience stray away from the Nexus S because they realize the hardware isn't much better than their existing devices. At&t, Sprint, and Verizon customers aren't going to switch because they have a similar device without switching carriers and T-Mobile customers will get the more mainstream, HSPA+ touting MyTouch 4g. I think the Nexus One should have been the device sold in stores and the Nexus S should have been the device sold online only.
Rant, Fin.

Will Motorola X on Google I\O hang S4 sales?

Let's make some predictions:
- End April\May is when stores begin to receive first-S4's
- Past 15 days, on 15May is google I\0 where it is expected be presented the Motorola X
In July is expected to begin sells of Motorola X
Assuming that some main specifications expected to be realized on Motorola X:
- Snapdragon 800 2.3GHz
- 4000mah Battery
- Display Shapphire Glass 3
- Carbon Materials
My point is, for consumers who are confused whether they should buy the S4\S600 or S4\Exynos, knowing S4's that only be for sale at the same time the expected presentation of Motorola X, culd be in doubt to what extent Motorola X will not give up their tendencies to S4.
Then we still have to rely on consumers who will wait another 1-2 months for the current S4 price calm down a bit.
As I said earlier, Samsung made ​​a serious mistake in launching two S4 variants totally different, and with aggravating circumstance of not be clear whether the question if will have a variant with LTE Exynos or not.
So if the Motorola X is indeed presented at Google I\0 and have specs which are expected might slightly spoil the S4 sales.
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If it comes without sd card slot and fixed battery - > NO CONTEST!
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harise100 said:
If it comes without sd card slot and fixed battery - > NO CONTEST!
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If it comes with 4000mAh can consider that are equal, will do well for a full day of heavy use ..... Although it is also important to know if future replacement is easy.
SD slot for me is not so important if comes at least with 32GB.
The most important is S800, which is expected spend much less battery.

harise100 said:
If it comes without sd card slot and fixed battery - > NO CONTEST!
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A few months ago I would have said the same then I got my n4 as a spare phone, temporarily my main, and realised that for me it wasn't necessary, that's not to diss your view in anyway just carrying on the conversation.
To the question I hope so, it'll be good for Android and the consumer plus Samsung should pay a price for this release.

Honestly only people who frequent sites and forums like this care about anything you just mentioned. I'd be surprised if 10% of Galaxy S4 buyers even knew whether their phone has a Snapdragon or Exynos processor, and appreciated the difference. The S4 is going to have a monster advertising campaign behind it, and it's going to break sales records, certainly for an Android phone and possibly for smartphones period. If Google wants its X Phone to do well it's going to need a similarly strong marketing effort, and features that can grab the attention of a mainstream consumer (air gestures! eye scrolling!). Simply sticking some upgraded hardware specs in it is not going to do the trick in today's smartphone market.

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The extra battery is necessary because I tend to forget charging my phone. Fortunately there is a full battery in the charger on my desk
I like to have my personal data on a physically separate partition, so I can carelessly do a wipe every now and then.
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It could, but it really depends. Being competitive on the technical front is only the first part. Though there will probably be fairly comparably specced phones out later this year and maybe even as early as summer (maybe).
Marketing the sucker is the second. Samsung has done a good job in making Galaxy the go to name for android phones... even surpassing Droid marketing imo. The amount of Galaxy related ads I see is several times that of what I see from the Nexus line.

snapple232 said:
Honestly only people who frequent sites and forums like this care about anything you just mentioned. I'd be surprised if 10% of Galaxy S4 buyers even knew whether their phone has a Snapdragon or Exynos processor, and appreciated the difference. The S4 is going to have a monster advertising campaign behind it, and it's going to break sales records, certainly for an Android phone and possibly for smartphones period. If Google wants its X Phone to do well it's going to need a similarly strong marketing effort, and features that can grab the attention of a mainstream consumer (air gestures! eye scrolling!). Simply sticking some upgraded hardware specs in it is not going to do the trick in today's smartphone market.
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Yes to ordinary consumer will not make any difference, i was referring more to people like us who always want the best.
harise100 said:
The extra battery is necessary because I tend to forget charging my phone. Fortunately there is a full battery in the charger on my desk
I like to have my personal data on a physically separate partition, so I can carelessly do a wipe every now and then.
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Yes, it is precisely the fact that the S4 have removable battery that is on my options.
But we must also agree if Motorola X comes with 4000mAh is a lot of energy, and the fact don't comes with removable battery is no longer so important.
Now if one day we have to change it, if disassembly is like ONE that is really terrible. I would never buy a phone like this, that can't disassemble it to put a new battery. The ONE disappointed me greatly in this respect is all glued....arrhhhhh
Zaegun said:
It could, but it really depends. Being competitive on the technical front is only the first part. Though there will probably be fairly comparably specced phones out later this year and maybe even as early as summer (maybe).
Marketing the sucker is the second. Samsung has done a good job in making Galaxy the go to name for android phones... even surpassing Droid marketing imo. The amount of Galaxy related ads I see is several times that of what I see from the Nexus line.
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If S4 had already come with the Exynos with LTE i even not would place this question ...... the problem is that comes two versions and the better one dont have LTE.
So if gona wait, other options like Motorola X will appear soon.

Man even if Google came out with a killer X phone they don't know how to distribute it and market it properly, just look at the N4 ...
On the other hand, since Samsung doesn't give a damn about what Google tells them to do with phones, UI etc, i think Google will probably try to get a killer out at a lower price point.
But they won't be able, nor will they want to, market it as much as samsung will with the S4. I mean samsung got it all right when they launched the S1 when the iphone was crushing competition --> mass mass mass marketing, it just works when the device follows up. two/three years later look where they are...

Lot of speculation, nothing final. And wait till we have the final product. X-phone name doesn't mean it's made for X-men!
And google/motorola are yet to prove that they can handle distribution and sales properly. None of their previous products have sold close to what iPhones/Galaxies sell. A good product isn't enough to be a blockbuster hit in present market.
X-phone/Nexus just doesn't have even even the 10% brand recognition of iPhone and Galaxy S. Marketing and promotion is something which only Apple and Samsung is able to do at this moment. Let's wait and see.

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If it comes without sd card slot and fixed battery - > NO CONTEST!
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If the battery is massive I wouldn't mind and it needs at least 32GB and USB OTG and then that is fine
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Most of these specs are fantasies. Sapphire Glass is insanely expensive and there wont be a massive battery either

The truth is Samsung doesn't put us THE S4 on the table. What Sam brought was a S4 Poll and many doubts about LTE Exynos. Some countries have one anothers other, and some both.
These threads were not supposed to exist after S4 public presentation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2210468
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2211855&page=2
As for X users informed as we just have to wait 15 days after we actually can buy one S4 to know what is.
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The leaked /rumored specs are impressive but will it have smart stay, smart scroll, air gesture, ir, etc etc etc? No... Never
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Based on a quick google search the motorla x doesn't seem to be a super phone anymore and that those super hardware specs are being saved for the next nexus...
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bala_gamer said:
The leaked /rumored specs are impressive but will it have smart stay, smart scroll, air gesture, ir, etc etc etc? No... Never
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I hope you are so wrong! :banghead:
I want to have "Multi windows" and a pen for my Nexus 7 or it's successors.
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My point is, for consumers who are confused whether they should buy the S4\S600 or S4\Exynos, knowing S4's that only be for sale at the same time the expected presentation of Motorola X, culd be in doubt to what extent Motorola X will not give up their tendencies to S4.
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I guess it all comes down to what consumers want. Nexus/AOSP phones have appealed more to enthusiasts than the mainstream consumer (the GN only sold 750K units when sold alongside the SGS2/3) when offered at the same price. So with Samsung going even further over the top with s/w on the SGS4 it'll be interesting to see how they react to a "pure Google" Motorola phone. Google wants consumers to think "pure" is better but based on how well phones with overlays sell in comparison you have to wonder what consumer's think. If Motorola was smart they'd offer Phone X as a dual-boot in to either AOSP or an overlay that's got features like Samsung and LG are both pushing. That would at least hedge their bets. My prediction is if the Phone X is AOSP it's not going to dent the SGS4 because Samsung's trained people that s/w features are important (even if they're not).

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I really like AOSP.
You can have the best Android device. Because the S3 and coming S4 ROMs will never be 100% bug free.
On my Nexus 7 I am not aware of any bug in Android. The ROM developers fixed what google forgot.
The hardware sucks for a phone. :banghead:
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On my Nexus 7 I am not aware of any bug in Android. The ROM developers fixed what google forgot.
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Nothing is perfect. I will say that nothing is even close to perfect.

It will be business as usual for the average joe as people savage for the S4.
But sales will halt for Enthusiasts like us as we await Google I/O.
There's no doubt KLP will be released.
However, I have a feeling that there will definitely be a new high-end phone here
and Google keeping the Nexus 4 as a low cost alternative.

I don't feel the need of getting the next samsung device, what are your opinions?

Its all the same, nevertheless. I find nexus 6P more elegant and unique, thus the reason buying it because theres so many people with samsung devices, even low class people which just filters out its uniqueness and its price tag making it look worthless outside. What are your opinions? If your on Samsung S6/Edge/+, would you have the need to upgrade to an device such as Samsung S7?
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I've posted an explanation as to what low class in this instance means. forgive me if it had you in any way, i was never trying to make any of you owners sad, its just that for so many, they have this phone and it just gets rid of its status 'elegant'. Elegant is ment to be beautiful, stylish. But when everyone has this 'elegant' phone, where does the definition exist of being stylish?
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I love the samsung edge because its invention of curve screen. I've even had friends give them to me to try for an hour or so. The thing is that, i don't like people having the same phone as me. I was about to get the nexus 5x but one of my friends got it, so i went ahead with nexus 6p. But that doesnt mean that i would get another new phone if someone else has the same phone as me because that would be regarded as wasting money.

I agree I'm in a bond my Samsung smartphone if I should get the new one must have something waw and cool and interesting

I got my Galaxy S phone to be different from everybody else.
Then I got my Galaxy S4/S5 because they were simply the best.
Samsung is neither unique or the best anymore so...

Nexus6p stands strong in Android market . I hope Samsung won't compete to beat n6P with bloatware and bla bla. Hail nexus6p

After living with the LG G4 for a couple weeks, I'll be sticking with Samsung, if for no other reason that I FAR prefer the Home/capacative buttons that Samsung offers compared to the on screen buttons that all the other major makers use. Plus, I like Samsung's screens the best, & they are always at or near the top in camera, performance, etc. Custom ROMs take care of the bloat. Now, Samsung isn't perfect, & I am very disappointed by their removal of SD & replaceable battery, which is why I'm still hanging in there with my S4, which I had planned to replace with the S6. It looks like the SD is coming back, which will be probably be enough for me to go with the S7. If the S7 had replaceable battery, it would be a slam dunk for me. Despite the G4 having those features, it's size & button arrangement (including the power & volume) made it an overall less preferable unit to me than my aging S4.

I agree with the OP, my next device will be a Nexus one.

Not going to upgrade/downgrade from the note 4. But it will interesting to see if Samsung has learned something and if they will put the removable battery and a micro sd card back into their phones.
But yeah real buttons will always beat out in screen ones

So no one have an issue with this person stating even "low class" people have a Samsung?...Obviously not.
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If you can afford it buy Galaxy S7 or just buy some chinese Android phone.
But I definitely like to have microSD card back on Galaxy S7

You sound pretentious and terrible. Just because a company sells their product successfully does not make them worse. They're still using top of the line, listening to consumers by reinstating the microSD slot. You're not special because you have money to buy better products. If you wanna be so "different" go buy an iPhone. You have the same mindset as an apple fanboy.

Like most phones, upgrading every year isn't very appealing because there's only so much that can be improved. I wouldn't upgrade from a Galaxy S6. But I certainly will from my S5 Sport!

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Really, low class? Well you are the Messiah so I guess everyone is low class to you.

I agree with some of you, I don't seen the point of upgrading every year, there isn't a big enough difference between each years models. I don't mind iPhone once they are jailbroken, I have an iPhone 4 that has been through hell and back with me and still kicking. I have been through a kyocera slide I got stuck in boot loop and bricked a HTC desire. Now have an LG G3 that I love and haven't had any problems. If your going from a device that that is a couple models older and is going obsolete then upgrade, but most of us don't have the money laying around to to by a new phone every year.
Have they even set a release date for the Galaxy D7 yet?

By low class, you have to understand that i am not defining those who have samsung as lower class. its your choice to have it or not. but the thing is that wherever i go, everywhere! people have got either samsung or apple in their hands and to me it feels like its just too many. it just destroys its elegancy and its price tag. i don't know how to explain but I hope i cleared some misconceptions

Not usually one to post, but you're not helping yourself any with your explanation. You still come off as elitist, shallow, and rather petty to be honest.
Who cares how many people have a phone? Are you going to tell me an iPhone isn't nice because millions of people have one? Or that the Galaxy series is suddenly not one of the best phones, simply because more people have it?
I dunno if this is going to be breaking news to you, but with contract subsidies and pricing offers and various discounts, even the most expensive of smartphones are a relatively cheap luxury item. With the modern reliance on cellphones, and mobile data, of course having a good phone is going to be something most people will spend a few extra dollars on. Is it really a newsflash that people want the best? Or did you not consider that most people are flocking to the Galaxy series, and the iPhone lineup, because they have a longstanding legacy of being two of the best, powerhouse smartphones available.
Furthermore.. elegance? Really? They're phones, not watches. They're consumption devices that have increasingly more and more uses.. not just little gadgets people get, to show off how rich or awesome they are. Only the geekiest of the geeks have a nerdgasm about how much more elegant their phone is than the average person. The rest of us standard model geeks would rather just enjoy our phones as the tools that they are, and try to find the one that works best for us.

Well done, ThePheonixChameleon. I totally agree, although what do I know, I'm an inelegant, low-class owner of a Galaxy S4, no less.

There is no need to get a Samsung devuce, because there is OnePlus out there...
I was a great fan of Samsung devices, and I'm still are. But now I have two OnePlus devices and I'm very satisfied with them. So I won't get any other device for now and the near future. :beer:

hella356 said:
Well done, ThePheonixChameleon. I totally agree, although what do I know, I'm an inelegant, low-class owner of a Galaxy S4, no less.
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Ehh, I just picked up my fourth rooted Galaxy S3 off Swappa. Still clinging to that antique, cliche phone.. with it's plastic case and inelegant awesomeness that made it the only phone anyone wanted of it's generation.

I currently own a Galaxy S5 Sport. Great phone, but the first thing I did was flash CM12.1, waiting for CM13. Touchwiz is a piece of ****. Samsung phones are so much better than one would think if you get rid of the garbage stock ROM. I'm not just speaking aesthetically, the performance is atrocious. It's so smooth and never hangs up now, also doesn't force close when trying to do something intensive and the RAM management is much better!

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'm not just speaking aesthetically, the performance is atrocious. It's so smooth and never hangs up now, also doesn't force close when trying to do something intensive and the RAM management is much better!
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Totally agree. I also had a SGS5 before I exchanged it with the OnePlus Two. I tried a lot of different Rom's. The very best I flashed on it was AICP. I was very satisfied with that Rom. Maybe you will try it out. :thumbup: