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The speed on my Vibrant (I'm within my remorse period) is not an issue and it has been working just fine for over a week now. No freezes and no amount of lag to complain about at all. I don't have a data service since I'm usually always around spots with WiFI so the data features on the MT4G are nice and MIGHT come in handy whenever I decide to add a data plan but not at this moment. I miss the LED indicator which the Vibrant does not have and I would love a FFC and LED flash but I'm in LOVE with the Vibrants display and I guess I can live without the LED/FFC although it would be nice to have. Opinions?
BTW, I paid 50 bucks for my Vibrant from T-Mobile. I'll be paying the same amount for the MT4G.
honestly i thought i would miss the display too but after about a day i forgot all about it
From someone who has a Vibrant and MT4G (I will eventually have to pick one, but have both for now), you will find the MT4G screen is absolutely garbage infront of the Vibrant's. The LCD on the MT4G looks washed out and low quality when compared to the SuperAMOLED on the Vibrant. So, the Vibrant has its fair share of problems (one of my biggest problems is terrible battery life) but the screen is unmatched and if you have used a Vibrant, you will feel like you are downgrading when using the MT4G (in regards to the screen).
Oh and the MT4G is noticeably heavier than the Vibrant. It isn't that the MT4G is "heavy", but rather it is that the Vibrant is light.
I actually like the MT4G's screen better. It displays text MUCH sharper. Text is very pixelated and blocky on the vibrant.
Anyway, the MT4G is the better phone. Faster all around and has many more features.
I personally don't get what all the hubub about the display is. Yes, it is incredibly nice. But it's not as though we had Nokia 6600 screens on our phones before the Vibrant. The screen on the MT4G seems to be just as nice to look at as the Nexus, Droid Incredible, Droid Eris, or any of a multitude of other phones out there, that people seem to be really happy about.
Why didn't we hear any of this back in the G1 days?
"Man, I like the G1. But I just can't give up the screen on my iPhone/3G."
or
"Man, the Nexus is really tight, and all, but after using the HD2, I just can't go back to a screen smaller than a PSP." (ok, that was hyperbole... but you get what I'm saying)
And I'm not accusing you of doing this. Thi sjust seems to be an argument that is made time and time again by hardcore Vibrant fans.
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I personally don't get what all the hubub about the display is. Yes, it is incredibly nice. But it's not as though we had Nokia 6600 screens on our phones before the Vibrant. The screen on the MT4G seems to be just as nice to look at as the Nexus, Droid Incredible, Droid Eris, or any of a multitude of other phones out there, that people seem to be really happy about.
Why didn't we hear any of this back in the G1 days?
"Man, I like the G1. But I just can't give up the screen on my iPhone/3G."
or
"Man, the Nexus is really tight, and all, but after using the HD2, I just can't go back to a screen smaller than a PSP." (ok, that was hyperbole... but you get what I'm saying)
And I'm not accusing you of doing this. Thi sjust seems to be an argument that is made time and time again by hardcore Vibrant fans.
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This is my biggest Issue, Will I miss the SAMOLED??
Ok, ask yourself this:
Do you have an HDTV? Is it 120Hz? 240? If so, does it make your stomache turn to look at a regular, or less-than-1080p tv? Do movies in theaters look like trash to you?
If not, then don't fall for the "This is the latest thing, and before you had this your life was meaningless" nonsense. Yes, if you read posts about how much better the screen is, on a daily basis, you will find yourself comparing the two. And, as such, you will probably start feeling as though you miss it. But were you really unhappy about your screen's display before you got the Vibrant? Did you find yourself longing for an S-Amoled screen, even though we had no idea what one would look like before seeing the Vibrant? Probably not.
I bet I can tell you what you WON'T miss, though.
A lack of led notifications.
A lack of Flash.
A lack of an FM radio.
A lack of pc sync. (Kies? Really?)
A data port/charging port that was brilliantly place on the top of the phone.
The drag-your-feet manner in which Samsung makes updates available to their customers.
The inexplicably convoluted RFS files system, which inevitibly causes lag on the phone.
And possibly a few other things. But, again, not trying to point fingers, or sound accusatory. Just sharing my opinion. And, by the way, I did love the display. But the only time I really miss it is when I read about how great it was.
My .02
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Ok, ask yourself this:
Do you have an HDTV? Is it 120Hz? 240? If so, does it make your stomache turn to look at a regular, or less-than-1080p tv? Do movies in theaters look like trash to you?
If not, then don't fall for the "This is the latest thing, and before you had this your life was meaningless" nonsense. Yes, if you read posts about how much better the screen is, on a daily basis, you will find yourself comparing the two. And, as such, you will probably start feeling as though you miss it. But were you really unhappy about your screen's display before you got the Vibrant? Did you find yourself longing for an S-Amoled screen, even though we had no idea what one would look like before seeing the Vibrant? Probably not.
I bet I can tell you what you WON'T miss, though.
A lack of led notifications.
A lack of Flash.
A lack of an FM radio.
A lack of pc sync. (Kies? Really?)
A data port/charging port that was brilliantly place on the top of the phone.
The drag-your-feet manner in which Samsung makes updates available to their customers.
The inexplicably convoluted RFS files system, which inevitibly causes lag on the phone.
And possibly a few other things. But, again, not trying to point fingers, or sound accusatory. Just sharing my opinion. And, by the way, I did love the display. But the only time I really miss it is when I read about how great it was.
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^ completely agree.
I'm coming from a Nexus One into G2 into the myTouch. When I first started using the myTouch, I couldn't help but frown as the screen didn't look as crisp or clear as the G2's. But this phone won me over with all it's other features and impressive hardware. That, and I actually like Sense whereas TouchWiz made me think I was playing with a toy.
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Ok, ask yourself this:
Do you have an HDTV? Is it 120Hz? 240? If so, does it make your stomache turn to look at a regular, or less-than-1080p tv? Do movies in theaters look like trash to you?
If not, then don't fall for the "This is the latest thing, and before you had this your life was meaningless" nonsense. Yes, if you read posts about how much better the screen is, on a daily basis, you will find yourself comparing the two. And, as such, you will probably start feeling as though you miss it. But were you really unhappy about your screen's display before you got the Vibrant? Did you find yourself longing for an S-Amoled screen, even though we had no idea what one would look like before seeing the Vibrant? Probably not.
I bet I can tell you what you WON'T miss, though.
A lack of led notifications.
A lack of Flash.
A lack of an FM radio.
A lack of pc sync. (Kies? Really?)
A data port/charging port that was brilliantly place on the top of the phone.
The drag-your-feet manner in which Samsung makes updates available to their customers.
The inexplicably convoluted RFS files system, which inevitibly causes lag on the phone.
And possibly a few other things. But, again, not trying to point fingers, or sound accusatory. Just sharing my opinion. And, by the way, I did love the display. But the only time I really miss it is when I read about how great it was.
My .02
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+1... and add to the list the HSDPA+, FFC (eventhough you won't use it, it's still better to know you have it in case you need it) and 256MB of extra RAM... phones are not meant for watching movies.. and it's not like movies are unwatchable on MT4G.. as it's still gorgeous! i think when it comes to phones, you have to look at the features and the sturdy feel on the device, which in my opinion the samsung lacks compared to MT4G.. now if you're comparing MT4G to DESIRE HD, now that's a different story.. that belongs to the other thread..
Coming from the Vibrant I must say how extremely happy I am. I had a totally modded Vibrant to get the speed that the MT4G has right out of the box. The battery life of the Vibrant is horrible. The MT4G is a beast............extremely happy to have my MT4G.....oh yea after 3 to 4 days you get used to the screen, I dont watch movies on it so not that big of a deal me.
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The speed on my Vibrant (I'm within my remorse period) is not an issue and it has been working just fine for over a week now. No freezes and no amount of lag to complain about at all. I don't have a data service since I'm usually always around spots with WiFI so the data features on the MT4G are nice and MIGHT come in handy whenever I decide to add a data plan but not at this moment. I miss the LED indicator which the Vibrant does not have and I would love a FFC and LED flash but I'm in LOVE with the Vibrants display and I guess I can live without the LED/FFC although it would be nice to have. Opinions?
BTW, I paid 50 bucks for my Vibrant from T-Mobile. I'll be paying the same amount for the MT4G.
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You posted the exact same thing on the t-mobile forums. How many times you going to post this? Looking for a dog to throw you a bone?
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTouch-4G/Was-just-offered-a-MT4G-or-Samsung-Vibrant/td-p/541416
Same ****, same story.
Couldn't agree with you more and btw, the setup I have now with my vibrant gives me tremendous battery life (check sig )
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From someone who has a Vibrant and MT4G (I will eventually have to pick one, but have both for now), you will find the MT4G screen is absolutely garbage infront of the Vibrant's. The LCD on the MT4G looks washed out and low quality when compared to the SuperAMOLED on the Vibrant. So, the Vibrant has its fair share of problems (one of my biggest problems is terrible battery life) but the screen is unmatched and if you have used a Vibrant, you will feel like you are downgrading when using the MT4G (in regards to the screen).
Oh and the MT4G is noticeably heavier than the Vibrant. It isn't that the MT4G is "heavy", but rather it is that the Vibrant is light.
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You posted the exact same thing on the t-mobile forums. How many times you going to post this? Looking for a dog to throw you a bone?
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTouch-4G/Was-just-offered-a-MT4G-or-Samsung-Vibrant/td-p/541416
Same ****, same story.
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Someone's parents didn't love them enough.
Note how the OP for both threads is the same, asking the same question. Now try to think why I would post the same answer.
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Someone's parents didn't love them enough.
Note how the OP for both threads is the same, asking the same question. Now try to think why I would post the same answer.
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Maybe I wanted opinions from different follks? Not everyone knows about XDA. My bad for being excited for my new 50 dollar device. =)
I came from the G2, I don't really notice the difference in the screen and I don't think you can unless you put them next to each other. I know the Vibrant has a better screen but all the new benefits and 4G and more RAM and now with root this is a great device. The feel is really good and the battery life is not better than the vibrant.
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Maybe I wanted opinions from different follks? Not everyone knows about XDA. My bad for being excited for my new 50 dollar device. =)
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Oh I don't blame you -- I understand why you did it. I probably would have done the same. I was simply replying to the guy *****ing about how I posted the same answer.
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Oh I don't blame you -- I understand why you did it. I probably would have done the same. I was simply replying to the guy *****ing about how I posted the same answer.
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I was actually replying to that guy. Guess I quoted the wrong post. Sorry about that!
BTW, how are you liking your MT4G?
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I was actually replying to that guy. Guess I quoted the wrong post. Sorry about that!
BTW, how are you liking your MT4G?
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I can't say, unfortunately. The one I got had dust underneath the screen so I returned it the next day, only playing with it for an hour or so. I am currently waiting on my replacement which should be here tomorrow (free express shipping ftw). There are advantages of ordering via retention, but the lead time on exchanges is not one of them.
That said, I was extremely disappointed in the screen of the first MT4G -- it looked very washed out and low quality. I hope it was a defective screen because otherwise I think I may just end up going back to the Vibrant.
Im currently using a MyTouch 4G and my return period is about to end. On Dec 3. So i can't keep one and wait for the other.
Should i return it for a Nexus S, which is said to release on Dec 6, or should i keep it.
For this post im assuming the rumors of the Orion processor are true
I bet many of you have this question in mind,
A RAM-filled, Expresso Machine
-OR-
A Dual-Core, Stock God
The main reason im considering comparing the two is because the MyTouch has a very nice build quality, and the pics of the Nexus S suggest that it is a plasticy feel.
Some things i will lay out for you
Screen (Quality & Size)
Nexus > MyTouch
Overall Feel
Nexus < MyTouch
I would appreciate some advice, and thx in advanced
PS: Im waiting to root till i have made my decision
C.
put in a little O/T at work and have them both
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C.
put in a little O/T at work and have them both
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If only i could
btw im a student, so studies first, then work
Based on the rumors, the Nexus S appears to be very similar to a Samsung Vibrant, except for the dual-core processor and vanilla Android. As a prior Vibrant owner (we all know about the Galaxy S fiasco), I won't be purchasing any more Samsung phones, regardless of what their specs are rumored to be. HTC, on the other hand, definitely makes solid phones. Even Motorola has produced some impressive offerings over the course of the year (Droid X, Droid 2).
If you're really considering the Nexus S, I highly suggest considering Samsung's reputation and basing your decision on their past missteps. After the disaster with Behold II and Galaxy S, what's to say they won't release another lemon?
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Based on the rumors, the Nexus S appears to be very similar to a Samsung Vibrant, except for the dual-core processor and vanilla Android. As a prior Vibrant owner (we all know about the Galaxy S fiasco), I won't be purchasing any more Samsung phones, regardless of what their specs are rumored to be. HTC, on the other hand, definitely makes solid phones. Even Motorola has produced some impressive offerings over the course of the year (Droid X, Droid 2).
If you're really considering the Nexus S, I highly suggest considering Samsung's reputation and basing your decision on their past missteps. After the disaster with Behold II and Galaxy S, what's to say they won't release another lemon?
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Thx for this informative post.
This really is one thing i should consider
I like the MT4G, but it seems to be lacking dev support. I was not happy with the vibrant (lag, gps, battery life, etc.) therefore I have mixed feelings regarding the nexus s just and a little weary because samsung is making it.
MT4G (HTC Glacier) using XDA app.
The MyTouch 4G has great hardware, but lacking the awesome dev support
I'm currently in the same dilemma. I've got until wednesday to remorse my mytouch out. So far, I've been quite happy with the mytouch. I feel like I'd be happy keeping this phone, but I also feel like I'll always be thinking "what if"in the back of my mind.
Anyway, I keep reading that the nexus s will only be sold in stores like best buy.. I'm sure it's too early to tell, but does anyone have any ideas as to how the pricing for the nexus will work.
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I'm in the same boat but my remorse period starts tomorrow.
I love this phone but I've yet to get one without some kind of minor or major defect.
My g1 was perfect, but returned four vibrants and on my fourth my touch. Despite that I think this is a much better phone.
I wish the phone had more dev support, I remember the vibrant ramping up much faster.
The hardware in the sammy should be great, but the bad gps in the galaxy s line scares me. I actually like slcd better for everyday stuff. Next to the my touch, I can really see the blue hue on the samoled screen and the screen door text kills my eyes. Plus, though the blacks are the best, I hate having to have everything black themed to get any battery life on it.
I would say screw waiting on the nexus, but the thought of that amazing hardware paired with google dev support is hard to pass up. It's hard too believe that it will suck since it will be a dev phone. I missed the nexus 1 boat last time. Probably means android will finally be optimized for samsung s guts, instead of just htc, and sammy reduced to brute forcing for performance.
Another thing that makes me want it is that it will be the first of the next gen of phones if it truly has orion in it. From what I read about it, might make tegra 2 obsolete before it comes out.
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i have had used a nexus one and that was the only reason i was comparing the nexus s. But ya like all of you have said earlier, samsung cant make 100% solid devices, but the quality of HTC devices r worth trusting
For me, it's all about connectivity... if the Nexus S doesn't have HSPA+, I'm keeping the MT4G.
Even if the no HSPA+ radio is true, I honestly don't see that being a deal-breaker. I live in an HSPA+ area and I average about 2.5-3mbps which is the exact same as a non HSPA+ T-Mo phone in the same area. The only difference is the non HSPA+ phones won't go above 7.2 mbps but so far neither can I so that's a non-issue for me.
Coming from an Evo, I agree with the comments about the dev scene being scarcer than other phones (but the few we do have are really stepping up).
I am taking the stance that I am keeping my MT4G thru remorse, and waiting to see what people's response to the Nexus S after its out for a couple weeks is. At that point I can still ebay/craigslist my MT4G for most of what it's worth right now anyway and get the Nexus S if it ends up being the end all be all.
At this point I would rather know I have a reliable, awesome phone that might be a tad light on the dev side than a potentially big samsung flop phone.
Zoltair Wright said:
For me, it's all about connectivity... if the Nexus S doesn't have HSPA+, I'm keeping the MT4G.
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Ditto.
I love this phone! Had the G1, skipped the G2 for this (wanted front cam).
I LOVE the build of this phone and hopefully the dev will come soon.
I think I'm going to stick with the MT4G.
I loved my nexus one!!!!! but i love my MT4G better cause of the front facing camara...but i did like the look and feel of the my samsung vibrant....so i just might have to go with the Nexus S.
Something to consider:
With all of the purported hardware improvements, and state-of-the-art inclusions, haven't they still seen fit to omit an led for notifications, and a trackball/track pad, for navigating through text and so forth?
It would be a shame if you had a Ferrari of a phone, that had to rely on NoLED to let you know when you had a missed call or text.
Just my .02
The Mytouch 4G is an excellent piece of hardware. I have good reception, no problems with the GPS, the screen is very responsive and the battery life is amazing. I could care less about Gingerbread too. What do you want with the newest Android version when your phone may have severe hardware flaws. I don't trust Samsung neither their hardware nor their software. I had an HTC N1 the newest android version couldn't help covering the several hardware flaws this device had. I am glad that I found a good piece of hardware.
Mine (MT4) is on the way and I am supposed to receive it in 2 days.
I go for MT4 this time because I need the trackpad and wifi calling, and I may get NS 3 months later.
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The hardware in the sammy should be great, but the bad gps in the galaxy s line scares me.
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It looks like the GPS issues were addressed:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/28/samsung-nexus-s-reappears-at-the-fcc-with-a-pair-of-new-antennas/
I think the Nexus S has enough potential that I would wait to see the end result before committing to the MT4G (or any other phone for that matter). You have to remember that Google is probably closely involved in the project which may result in more quality control than usual (see antenna replacement for example). I'm also intrigued by the Near Field Communication chip. If the Nexus S ends up living up to it's hype the dev support will probably be awesome. If it doesn't you can always go back to your phone of choice.
I ended up returning my MT4G before the end of my remorse period (which is 30 days if you buy it full price from a t-mobile store and not online). For those who can't go back to your old phones just remember that BestBuy and RadioShack both have 30 day return policies with no restocking fees
I will most likely get the Nexus S even though I've had the worse experience with Sammy and the Vibrant, simply because I cant say no to the 2nd generation, of the best phone ever made running on dual core.
I just ordered the MyTouch 4g today though, while I wait for reviews on the Nexus. I just had enough of this not so very MOD/DEV friendly phone they call the Vibrant. aka (My Piece of Shyet Phone) lol
Although I love the SAMOLED, the size, camera, and the look of the Vibrant. The software side, the random freezes and the need for Lag and GPS fix (That never really worked) just made it a BIG disappointment.
I know it might be wishful thinking with Sammy being the maker of the Nexus S, but since it will be a Google flagship device, I could only hope for better support and quicker updates than the Galaxy S series.
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Something to consider:
It would be a shame if you had a Ferrari of a phone, that had to rely on NoLED to let you know when you had a missed call or text.
Just my .02
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Maybe a little premature to assume this?
I was really excited when I heard the rumours about the nexus S along with 2.3.
Now it's been released I am extremely disappointed. It is no different from the Samsung galaxy S, which in my opinion was not a good device to start with, with it's cheap plastic design, lag problems and GPS issues etc. They even dropped the SD card slot which was the final nail in the coffin for me. Didnt implement hspa+ and dropped the bluetooth 3.0.
So for now i'll be sticking to my HTC desire with a custom 2.3 rom when it becomes available.
I suppose 2.3 comes with some welcomed features but we will have to wait till honeycomb to see the full UI update i guess.
What are your thoughts? Will the nexus S be your next device?
Let me know what you think.
I don't know but HTC is also full of problems too, i hope people realize that HTC uses cheap crap into their phones, the nexus one's awful touch screen, tiny speakers, dust under the screen, power button problems. I don't understand why people praise HTC so much i mean their warranty isn't stellar, having to send your phone for 3 weeks isn't very appealing.
Galaxy S to start with is already a better phone than the nexus one, the GPS works and everything works in the vibrant.
Your comment seems like from just another misinformed user.
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What are your thoughts?
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My thoughts are that people who complain about Google not releasing the phone of their dreams have missed the point of the Nexus S
I think:
No SD card= no problem, It's a phone after all guys, if you need music I would get an iPod, I use Pandora or groove shark anyways...I can't even fill my 8Gb card as it is!
Plastic Build= This is not a problem for me either because it's googles phone, i bet it will feel solid after all and I like the classy black gloss look so im biased anyways...
No HSPA+ = I don;t think many people are actually getting up to the 7mb anyways, but in the near future I think T mobile will be updating it to a whopping 21Mb so this is a bit upsetting but I only get edge at my house anyways so I'm okay with this too
This is the ONLY fully supported GOOGLE PHONE as of now remember. The nexus one is slowly dying
That's why I will have mine on the 16th!
Not sure why so many people complain about the Galaxy S line of phones. I have the Fascinate and I am not getting lag, the plastic case is plenty durable, my GPS also works fine.
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Not sure why so many people complain about the Galaxy S line of phones. I have the Fascinate and I am not getting lag, the plastic case is plenty durable, my GPS also works fine.
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EXACTLY i held a fascinate and it felt so solid! I just don't understand it....and HSPA+? You can still get up to 7.2 MB, but that isn't good enough? I mean that flies on my Nexus one already! I dont need any more speed.
I think you should read the first post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867112
Why, I think Google ****ed up.....having Best Buy Launch it
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I think you should read the first post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867112
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Love it
It's amazing to me how Google could come out with "the best android phone to date" (Endgadget's verdict) and yet people still complain
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Why, I think Google ****ed up.....having Best Buy Launch it
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would you have perferred WalMart?
lets keep it real, GOOGLE missed on the N1 because you couldnt walk into a national retailer, touch it, feel it, try it.
Best Buy Mobile is one of the best places to get a smartphone if not the best, they certainly have the most and best prices. rebates anyone? any retailer is going to have idiots who dont know what theyre talking about...trust me it would be worst in a WalMart, Shack, or Target for example.
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I don't know but HTC is also full of problems too, i hope people realize that HTC uses cheap crap into their phones, the nexus one's awful touch screen, tiny speakers, dust under the screen, power button problems. I don't understand why people praise HTC so much i mean their warranty isn't stellar, having to send your phone for 3 weeks isn't very appealing.
Galaxy S to start with is already a better phone than the nexus one, the GPS works and everything works in the vibrant.
Your comment seems like from just another misinformed user.
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I'm not praising HTC at all. I don't agree that HTC uses cheap crap in their phones. HTC's design and build quality is one of the best in the industry. I do agree no phone is perfect, Some HTC's do have problems like the lack of a good quality speaker and the multi-touch issues on the N1. However the new HTC line up looks promising such as the G2/desire z and desire HD etc.
When I was playing on my friends galaxy S I did notice the lag issue and GPS problems. To me the actual build quality seemed cheap. However I will say, great processor and internal hardware, with that gorgeous AMOLED screen. That's just my experience of the device.
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My thoughts are that people who complain about Google not releasing the phone of their dreams have missed the point of the Nexus S
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I think you might be missing the point I am trying to make.
I wasn't expecting the phone of my dreams, far from it. My point is that the specs are almost identical to that of the galaxy S. With exception to the NFC and gyro of course.
The reason why expandable memory is a deal breaker for me, amongst other things, is the fact they are removing a feature, I know for some people this will be fine, but it reminds me of the iphone and how apple removes basic features, in their closed system.
The nexus S could have been great, but it was rushed for release just for the Christmas season.
Above all that here in the UK its going to cost a whopping £550 on launch day!
I think the nexus S will be fine for most, but there's nothing revolutionary about it.
The last I heard about a "revolutionary" phone was from steve job's mouth. Just sayin. I don't think google is saying this is a revolutionary device. Nexus named phone just means its Google's baby.
Some people just have too much expectation.
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I don't agree on making a general comment like HTC rocks and Samsung sucks or vice versa.In gadgets world, you have to take each product and review it as it is. About build quality , I have a cheap Samsung slide phone and it has been taking some awful falls for a while, on hard floors and streets and although it's fully made of plastic, it amazed me how it's still holding up with just scratches and it's performing just like the first day I got it. There is no one device that can fit all people, everyone has something to look for in his phone. For me, NS fits me the most now. You might have some other specifications that you are looking for too, so this might not be your phone.
Couple of key points for me...
Not realy '****ed' up per se, just dropped the ball on a couple of points:
NO HSPA+= No purchase for me, my next phone has to have it (currently with HD2)
No HD video recording. WTF!? I'm sure someone will unleash it in a custom ROM or hack, but off the bat, just plain doopid!
I was almost there until I found out those 2 points. I'd rather get a MyTouch 4G.
Cyph
google probably said "screw u htc for trying to make it harder to root"
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NO HSPA+= No purchase for me, my next phone has to have it (currently with HD2)
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What do you think you're going to do with speeds above 7mbps?
No 4G, No HD Video, No SD Slot. These are staples in current cell phones. Is it that hard for google to put in a phone? NO PURCHASE.
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What do you think you're going to do with speeds above 7mbps?
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ever heard of tethering?
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No 4G, No HD Video, No SD Slot. These are staples in current cell phones. Is it that hard for google to put in a phone? NO PURCHASE.
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Ever heard of trolling?
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No 4G, No HD Video, No SD Slot. These are staples in current cell phones. Is it that hard for google to put in a phone? NO PURCHASE.
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My point exactly, why remove features??? And wasn't the fact that android phones have expandable storage, differentiated it from the iphone...
Am going to pick up a SK4G in a little bit and was wondering from our community the general conscensus on how you guys feel about it?
I'm coming from a MT4G, which I am extremely happy with, the way I have it set-up. Any one also have both and maybe a comparison? (not the obvious of course like "the screen is smaller", etc., I've been around a bit, I know a tad about a couple things =] )
I've noticed it doesnt have as crazy as a following as some of the other androids, but that doesnt mean theres no good development going on!
Let me know if you dont mind.
I came from the mt3gs and a VM optimus v afterwards. I wanted the mt4g for the specs. But I couldn't do all touch typing. I found keyboards to help. But it's just not the same as a physical qwerty.
I'm the kind of guy who likes to buy phone 2-4x a year. Maybe not the kings of the hill. But mid to high range phones. Of course, it's expensive to do so. I decided to get a phone to last a whole two-year contract. I opted for the s4g. I was due for an upgrade and even waited until launch date for this over a g2 or mt4g.
What won me was obviously the keyboard. You don't see too many 5-rows available. Spec-wise, this phone is just average. Camera dept. is really lacking. Only 3mp. But lack of led flash was the killer. Still, the keyboard was winner. The physical design is nice. I especially liked the sliding mechanism. Half-phone sliders, like the mt3gs, just feel faulty and flimsy. You could pull the halves apart or slide past the closing stop point. Not that an average person would. But I like to conduct stress tests. This mechanism is sturdy. People have dropped plenty times and claim the mechanism is just as sturdy as it was at purchase.
Also, the screen tilt really makes a difference. Using my mt3gs after this makes it really apparent. It makes using a non-tilt screen really hard to adjust back to.
The phone does come with some bugs and issues, which you can read through the forums (I have a thread over at tmo forums and adroid central entitled "bug report and other issues".) However, rooting and getting custom rom Smooth Maximus GingerClone will make the phone a new phone. The speed is fast and lag hardy present. Only minute issues still remain, yet to be resolved.
Overall, especially if you need a physical keyboard, I would suggest this phone. It is highly recommended you get Smooth Maximus for its best value. If all-touch phones didn't bother me I would go for a mt4g, g2, or wait for the mt4gs. But for you, as a backup phone this is an awesome investment. I would wait for the mt4gs, though, just for its specs and future android development.
I would say don't. You will miss the MT4G. I did the same thing Saturday night. I got rid of it last night. The phone has a nice keyboard and stuff... but the performance of the phone lacks! I mean it has a 1ghz processor and all, but its nowhere near fast as a vibrant.
I would say don't. Because you will be disappointed. If you want a keyboard get the G2 or wait for the myTouch 4G Slide.
3 days after I got the SK4G I traded it immediately and got a Nexus S instead. That phone wouldn't send or receive texts and it also wouldn't call or receive calls until I restarted. But that might have been wifi callings issue though. And if you browse the web a lot then this is not your device since the screen is so small. The only thing I liked about the phone was Cloud Text and the phenomenal keyboard. Although, as all Samsung slider keyboards do, it tends to once in a while not register a key when typing.
The quality of the SK also lacks significantly compared to the myTouch....
Just my 2 cents.
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I would say don't. You will miss the MT4G. I did the same thing Saturday night. I got rid of it last night. The phone has a nice keyboard and stuff... but the performance of the phone lacks! I mean it has a 1ghz processor and all, but its nowhere near fast as a vibrant.
I would say don't. Because you will be disappointed. If you want a keyboard get the G2 or wait for the myTouch 4G Slide.
3 days after I got the SK4G I traded it immediately and got a Nexus S instead. That phone wouldn't send or receive texts and it also wouldn't call or receive calls until I restarted. But that might have been wifi callings issue though. And if you browse the web a lot then this is not your device since the screen is so small. The only thing I liked about the phone was Cloud Text and the phenomenal keyboard. Although, as all Samsung slider keyboards do, it tends to once in a while not register a key when typing.
The quality of the SK also lacks significantly compared to the myTouch....
Just my 2 cents.
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Listen , you should do a bit research before posting in this thread imo .
It's a 1GHz of course it lack's performance , the Galaxy & SK4G have the same processor & gut's & once you install a custom kernel & ROM you will be fine , there is no Wifi Calling issue & browsing the web is fine , Cloud Text & the keyboard is amazing .
I don't wanna be bias so I'll give my honest opinion. If you are a power user, don't get this phone. Though it runs a lot more smoothly on a custom root setup, it still has tiny lag, as enoch pointed out it doesn't register all button keyboard presses. The only reason you should get the sk4g is for the keyboard alone. If not then a more powerful phone may satisfy your needs.
If you are a power user, don't get this phone. If you're getting a phone just cause, you can consider this. I love the phone and haven't put it down since. But if this is a main phone for two years on contract, you can get something better.
Lol, I don't mean to contradict my earlier post. I'm not as bias with this one.
i would recommend the sk4g. coming from all-touch smartphones like the nexus one and hd2 running android and the hd7, i am happy with the sidekick 4g. i generally avoided android phones with qwerty keyboards because most are sliders and i hate phones with too much movement.
the droid pro was my dream form factor for an android phone but since i am happy with tmo there was no way i would switch to verizon just for that phone. plus the resolution on the droid pros smaller screen was a turnoff.
the slider on the sidekick 4g is pretty sturdy. the keyboard is awesome. i use my phone a lot for business and the sidekick 4g was the last smartphone on my list. but after comparing to other qwerty androids out there the skg4 seemed to be one of the better.
the camera is only 3m and no led flash. but the quality of the pictures is pretty good for being 3m. depending on what rom i had on my hd2, the sk4g's cam took pics just as good.
the speakerphone is pretty good. better than any htc ive had.(g1, mytouch 3g, hd2, hd7, nexus one).
even though its mostly made of plastic, its pretty durable and not as 'cheap' feeling as some claim it to be. i actually think its one of the more better built phones ive had(besides the hd2).
as for performance, even though it has the same 1GHz hummingbird processor as the galaxy s, tab, etc... it doesnt feel as smooth. most of the lag can be noticed while unlocking, navigating through any custom ui, and switching back to home screen from some apps. but once you are inside of an app it feels just as smooth and snappy as other 1GHz smartphones.
if i were you i'd probably wait until the mytouch 4g slide comes out.. its not too long. im not really digging the mytouch4g/slide's front looks and not liking how the touchscreen is fully exposed on all sides as opposed to the sk4g's screen/slider is protected on two sides.
I know my phones. I know it technically has the same guts as any Galaxy S phone. But I can tell you any Galaxy S phone feels so much more faster than this phone does. I mean I was shocked that the phone didn't perform like a 1ghz device should! I did install Bali with voodoo enabled and that didn't make much difference. While on the vibrant the difference was almost night and day.
And yes I pointed out that Cloud Text and the keyboard are Amazing!
But the phone is just sluggish.
If he is a power user, he needs to look elsewhere because this phone won't suffice your need of power. I mean I found my self restarting the phone every few hours while on my myTouch 4G I never had to restart.
Another thing I should also point out is that battery life isn't the greatest. The phone wasn't lasting me even 8 hours a day (I'm more of a power user). While the myTouch would last me 22+ hours on the Virtuous Unity ROM or 18+ hours on stock. The phone with a keyboard that lasted the longest that I ever owned (android) was the G2 I was getting a solid 36+ hours of use. It was Stunning!!
My suggestion would be wait a few weeks and you can get the myTouch 4G Slide.
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Listen , you should do a bit research before posting in this thread imo .
It's a 1GHz of course it lack's performance , the Galaxy & SK4G have the same processor & gut's & once you install a custom kernel & ROM you will be fine , there is no Wifi Calling issue & browsing the web is fine , Cloud Text & the keyboard is amazing .
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I'm trading my sidekick for a nexus one next week. Unless I change my mind.
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I would recommend this phone if you are a hardcore qwerty user like myself. I came from the MT4G and I got this phone through craigslist and I have been satisfied. Is it a high end phone? Maybe if this came out last summer but it does not stop this from being a good phone. Even though the development is not as great as other phones ( I do appreciate the support!) There is not much wrong with this phone. 3 MP is weak for a camera nowadays but it does its job. Is the phone sluggish at times? Sometimes but with the gingerclone rom and bali kernal it has decreased. With more roms in kernals in the future it should change indeed. As for the battery I let the battery die and let it charge completely and no lie got 24+ hours of battery life which consisted of playing Chrono Trigger on my phone (keyboard controller ftw) but as everyone else has been saying if you want value and a 5 row keyboard then sk4g, if you wanna throw some more money and wanna be that suave guy with a fancy phone then please get the mt4gs and tell me how it is ;-)
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Not a good trade. I wouldn't do it.
Try to see if you can get a Nexus S instead.
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I'm trading my sidekick for a nexus one next week. Unless I change my mind.
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most people who are all hardcore with buying the latest and greatest may disagree. My point of contention is, when your a guy like me who has to keep up with multiple females at any given moment there is no better phone. Simply put, *****es love texting. The only competition we have as far as touch screen texting is the Droid boomerang. I forget the model designation but the thing is ****ing retarded huge. Next up we have the blackberry, but the closed source OS was the major boner killer for me.
With all that said, if you **** *****es, like lots of *****es. There is no better phone. All the other ************s struggle to keep up. I don't know how, but all the females I know get at least 45 WPM out of those ****ing dinosaur Nokia bricks. I can't do that ****, but I do know that with a SK4G I can get 45 WPM+ with nearly 100% accuracy.
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most people who are all hardcore with buying the latest and greatest may disagree. My point of contention is, when your a guy like me who has to keep up with multiple females at any given moment there is no better phone. Simply put, *****es love texting. The only competition we have as far as touch screen texting is the Droid boomerang. I forget the model designation but the thing is ****ing retarded huge. Next up we have the blackberry, but the closed source OS was the major boner killer for me.
With all that said, if you **** *****es, like lots of *****es. There is no better phone. All the other ************s struggle to keep up. I don't know how, but all the females I know get at least 45 WPM out of those ****ing dinosaur Nokia bricks. I can't do that ****, but I do know that with a SK4G I can get 45 WPM+ with nearly 100% accuracy.
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Lol... you say some dumb **** bro...
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Just wait for the 4g slide
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Well hey guys. I've been getting alot of questions on whether people should go and get a nexus or keep the sensation since i was an extremely early adopter of the sensation and a huge HTC Fan. To be honest, i like the nexus, probably 10 more times than i liked the sensation, and here's why.
NO OVERHEATING. As many of you know, the sensation likes to get all hot and bothered. But, it gets a little too hot. its gotten hot on me to the point it burned the inside of my gel case i bought for it. The nexus has YET to even start to get a LITTLE warm, and trust me i charged it exactly how i did the sensation. Probably one of the main reasons i like the nexus.
BUILD QUALITY.Personally i love the way both of these devices are built. But in the end i have to give it to the Nexus. Reason being i like that the device literally feels PERFECT in the hand to me. the perfect mix between not too light but not ridiculous like the razr. I've had alot of experience with the lte nexus since i work for verizon and i like the gsm version more because its more thin and light.
GPS. Now i don't understand why people hate samsung for their crappy gps from what i read. This is the first smartphone i've ever owned that picked up my location at my house DIRECTLY THE FIRST TIME. Not two houses over or a block. My exact home address. Every other phone put me somewhere else, including the sensation.
BATTERY LIFE! I've never, ever, EVER, EVER had a phone thats lasted longer than this nexus has. im on 1 day,3h,24 min on battery with 34 percent left! NEVER have i had battery life this good. Most will say "hey shaq, your not using the phone thats why its lasting so long.derp derp derp" You want to know what i say to that? " NO boy, i've been using this phone constantly especially since its new and i've only had it for two days. Silly ass. "
Besides the screen which obviously goes to the nexus, this is why im keeping it. I don't know if many of you will even care about this, but this is for those who were wondering thats all. This isn't a biased review AT ALL seeing as i never liked samsung, don't like the sgs2 or any of their devices (yes even the Nexus S) and this is the first samsung device i've ever bought, and i'm extremely impressed. Hope this helps those on the gate about this phone.
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Well hey guys. I've been getting alot of questions on whether people should go and get a nexus or keep the sensation since i was an extremely early adopter of the sensation and a huge HTC Fan. To be honest, i like the nexus, probably 10 more times than i liked the sensation, and here's why.
NO OVERHEATING. As many of you know, the sensation likes to get all hot and bothered. But, it gets a little too hot. its gotten hot on me to the point it burned the inside of my gel case i bought for it. The nexus has YET to even start to get a LITTLE warm, and trust me i charged it exactly how i did the sensation. Probably one of the main reasons i like the nexus.
No issues here.
BUILD QUALITY.Personally i love the way both of these devices are built. But in the end i have to give it to the Nexus. Reason being i like that the device literally feels PERFECT in the hand to me. the perfect mix between not too light but not ridiculous like the razr. I've had alot of experience with the lte nexus since i work for verizon and i like the gsm version more because its more thin and light.
Felt the nexus, ain't worth ****. Just like an LG Optimus 2x
GPS. Now i don't understand why people hate samsung for their crappy gps from what i read. This is the first smartphone i've ever owned that picked up my location at my house DIRECTLY THE FIRST TIME. Not two houses over or a block. My exact home address. Every other phone put me somewhere else, including the sensation.
Fast fix, here the same. Unrooted phone.
BATTERY LIFE! I've never, ever, EVER, EVER had a phone thats lasted longer than this nexus has. im on 1 day,3h,24 min on battery with 34 percent left! NEVER have i had battery life this good. Most will say "hey shaq, your not using the phone thats why its lasting so long.derp derp derp" You want to know what i say to that? " NO boy, i've been using this phone constantly especially since its new and i've only had it for two days. Silly ass. "
Got 2 days and 5 hours with standard rom, mediocore usage. Always 3G.
Besides the screen which obviously goes to the nexus, this is why im keeping it. I don't know if many of you will even care about this, but this is for those who were wondering thats all. This isn't a biased review AT ALL seeing as i never liked samsung, don't like the sgs2 or any of their devices (yes even the Nexus S) and this is the first samsung device i've ever bought, and i'm extremely impressed. Hope this helps those on the gate about this phone.
Guess you had a mondaymorning device
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Must say, the only reason I should use a Nexus is because of the Amoled. But since it ain't got sense.
It has nothing.
Not to forget.. It only has a 5mpixel camera aswell.
Redshark976 said:
Must say, the only reason I should use a Nexus is because of the Amoled. But since it ain't got sense.
It has nothing.
Not to forget.. It only has a 5mpixel camera aswell.
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Android 4.0 honestly destroys what sense ever was honestly if you gave it a try.
Samsung Actually makes cameras, their 5mp camera could easily be compared to a moto or htc camera and be on par or even beat it. It has one of the best camera sensors out on a phone. Megapixels don't determine how good the camera is . Trust me, i've done alot of tests against one another.
lol about the pyramid GPS, you're wrong, i tryed it at lobby of a big complex and it found my location in 30sec.
No microSD card slot.
No mass storage mode (so I can't use iTunes Agent)
No offline sync with PC for calendar and contacts (old fashioned I know, but I just don't want to sync with Google's sevrers).
No in-built DLNA app (Google really need to up their game with core functionality like this and implement full GUI mirroring to TVs/monitors via DLNA or wifi direct as standard so we can do more with our devices)
Other than that, I probably would've bought the Nexus too.
It would be nice if the Sensation didn't gently toast my backside when it's in my pocket ; )
Guys it looks like you are trying to change Shaqs mind. Don't, it will only lead to misunderstandings an flame wars.
@Shaq, thanks for sharing, you aren't the first person which said that he likes GN more than Sensation, but you are the first to explain why. While I disagree with heat issue (mine never got that hot) the rest of the point can be only understood by direct comparison (not possible in my case). Also, we don't know what HTC is going to come up with for the next Sense, but i have a feeling it's going to be rather yummy.
But all in all, possibility of me going to GED is higher and higher every day I use Android.
I would trade my sensation for a nexus in a heartbeat if it wasn't so. Damn big
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Android 4.0 honestly destroys what sense ever was honestly if you gave it a try.
Samsung Actually makes cameras, their 5mp camera could easily be compared to a moto or htc camera and be on par or even beat it. It has one of the best camera sensors out on a phone. Megapixels don't determine how good the camera is . Trust me, i've done alot of tests against one another.
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I've got to agree with you on both points, I'm a avid htc fan but from the leaked ICS sense roms htc have seriously messed it up and I'm not talking about the obvious lags as it is a leak, and yes Megapixels count for nothing its all about the sensor
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Nice nice! I've tho heard that the nexus have a rubbish battery life, but then it is better than the sensation, so that's good.
When I saw the nexus, I thought about buying it, too but the lack of SD card made me go nono ^^
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I don't know if many of you will even care about this, but this is for those who were wondering thats all.
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That would be me. I'm too strapped for cash right now to even consider getting a GN, but I did wonder how much better (or worse) it was compared to Sensation. So thanks for this.
Lack of SD card slot does kill me a little inside, but I'm sure the overall user experience makes you forget that. I had an iPhone previously, so I'm sure I could get over the lack of SD slot.
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I would trade my sensation for a nexus in a heartbeat if it wasn't so. Damn big
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It's not that big. Remember it has no hard keys so it's only marginally bigger than the Sensation.
The OP should have just said this:
I like the Nexus over the Sensation because I WORK FOR VERIZON
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GSM i9250 Galaxy nexus vs [INSERT ANY SMARTPHONE].. Why i kept the Nexus.
Its kinda surprising to see senior members troll. I understand you wanted to share your opinion really bad to justify your purchase but imo there is a better place to do that. I visit this forum to learn/discover something new about a device I own. I dont care why you choose GN or any other phone.
To the last two individuals, why did you read this post and comment? If you didnt care about this you wouldn't have commented..right? I dont quite understand the logic of you posting in my thread. If no one cared, people wouldnt have read nor commented this thread. Are you guys feeling good about yourselves posting such nonsense?
If i liked it because i work for verizon, i would have got the lte version.
As stated, this thread is for those who wanted to know why i liked it , silly troll.
Sorry folks, it made me giggle reading those comments.
My sensation is fine. Unless quad core phones start to come out now. The nexus got so many flaws and it's overwhelming too
That's just my opinion
you had yours too
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GSM i9250 Galaxy nexus vs [INSERT ANY SMARTPHONE].. Why i kept the Nexus.
Its kinda surprising to see senior members troll. I understand you wanted to share your opinion really bad to justify your purchase but imo there is a better place to do that. I visit this forum to learn/discover something new about a device I own. I dont care why you choose GN or any other phone.
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then dont come in the thread .... its nice to see some comparisons between phones
I just bought my GN from mobile daily steals. Hasn't been shipped yet. How much are mint condition sensations selling for at present?
Thank you for the short review.
I'm currently considering getting the Motorola RAZR or the Galaxy Nexus in white.
Just can't shake the feeling that it would prolly be stupid of me to buy now, when we got new flagship phones from HTC or Samsung just around the corner.
They'll prolly announce something new at CES, so let's see
Galaxy nexus all the way..
Typical response from Sensation owners who will call you a troll if you ever say any device is better than the Sensation. Ignore them, they are absolutely ignorant. I appreciate the honest review and it seems like the same things I would notice if I switched over to the GN.
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