Am going to pick up a SK4G in a little bit and was wondering from our community the general conscensus on how you guys feel about it?
I'm coming from a MT4G, which I am extremely happy with, the way I have it set-up. Any one also have both and maybe a comparison? (not the obvious of course like "the screen is smaller", etc., I've been around a bit, I know a tad about a couple things =] )
I've noticed it doesnt have as crazy as a following as some of the other androids, but that doesnt mean theres no good development going on!
Let me know if you dont mind.
I came from the mt3gs and a VM optimus v afterwards. I wanted the mt4g for the specs. But I couldn't do all touch typing. I found keyboards to help. But it's just not the same as a physical qwerty.
I'm the kind of guy who likes to buy phone 2-4x a year. Maybe not the kings of the hill. But mid to high range phones. Of course, it's expensive to do so. I decided to get a phone to last a whole two-year contract. I opted for the s4g. I was due for an upgrade and even waited until launch date for this over a g2 or mt4g.
What won me was obviously the keyboard. You don't see too many 5-rows available. Spec-wise, this phone is just average. Camera dept. is really lacking. Only 3mp. But lack of led flash was the killer. Still, the keyboard was winner. The physical design is nice. I especially liked the sliding mechanism. Half-phone sliders, like the mt3gs, just feel faulty and flimsy. You could pull the halves apart or slide past the closing stop point. Not that an average person would. But I like to conduct stress tests. This mechanism is sturdy. People have dropped plenty times and claim the mechanism is just as sturdy as it was at purchase.
Also, the screen tilt really makes a difference. Using my mt3gs after this makes it really apparent. It makes using a non-tilt screen really hard to adjust back to.
The phone does come with some bugs and issues, which you can read through the forums (I have a thread over at tmo forums and adroid central entitled "bug report and other issues".) However, rooting and getting custom rom Smooth Maximus GingerClone will make the phone a new phone. The speed is fast and lag hardy present. Only minute issues still remain, yet to be resolved.
Overall, especially if you need a physical keyboard, I would suggest this phone. It is highly recommended you get Smooth Maximus for its best value. If all-touch phones didn't bother me I would go for a mt4g, g2, or wait for the mt4gs. But for you, as a backup phone this is an awesome investment. I would wait for the mt4gs, though, just for its specs and future android development.
I would say don't. You will miss the MT4G. I did the same thing Saturday night. I got rid of it last night. The phone has a nice keyboard and stuff... but the performance of the phone lacks! I mean it has a 1ghz processor and all, but its nowhere near fast as a vibrant.
I would say don't. Because you will be disappointed. If you want a keyboard get the G2 or wait for the myTouch 4G Slide.
3 days after I got the SK4G I traded it immediately and got a Nexus S instead. That phone wouldn't send or receive texts and it also wouldn't call or receive calls until I restarted. But that might have been wifi callings issue though. And if you browse the web a lot then this is not your device since the screen is so small. The only thing I liked about the phone was Cloud Text and the phenomenal keyboard. Although, as all Samsung slider keyboards do, it tends to once in a while not register a key when typing.
The quality of the SK also lacks significantly compared to the myTouch....
Just my 2 cents.
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I would say don't. You will miss the MT4G. I did the same thing Saturday night. I got rid of it last night. The phone has a nice keyboard and stuff... but the performance of the phone lacks! I mean it has a 1ghz processor and all, but its nowhere near fast as a vibrant.
I would say don't. Because you will be disappointed. If you want a keyboard get the G2 or wait for the myTouch 4G Slide.
3 days after I got the SK4G I traded it immediately and got a Nexus S instead. That phone wouldn't send or receive texts and it also wouldn't call or receive calls until I restarted. But that might have been wifi callings issue though. And if you browse the web a lot then this is not your device since the screen is so small. The only thing I liked about the phone was Cloud Text and the phenomenal keyboard. Although, as all Samsung slider keyboards do, it tends to once in a while not register a key when typing.
The quality of the SK also lacks significantly compared to the myTouch....
Just my 2 cents.
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Listen , you should do a bit research before posting in this thread imo .
It's a 1GHz of course it lack's performance , the Galaxy & SK4G have the same processor & gut's & once you install a custom kernel & ROM you will be fine , there is no Wifi Calling issue & browsing the web is fine , Cloud Text & the keyboard is amazing .
I don't wanna be bias so I'll give my honest opinion. If you are a power user, don't get this phone. Though it runs a lot more smoothly on a custom root setup, it still has tiny lag, as enoch pointed out it doesn't register all button keyboard presses. The only reason you should get the sk4g is for the keyboard alone. If not then a more powerful phone may satisfy your needs.
If you are a power user, don't get this phone. If you're getting a phone just cause, you can consider this. I love the phone and haven't put it down since. But if this is a main phone for two years on contract, you can get something better.
Lol, I don't mean to contradict my earlier post. I'm not as bias with this one.
i would recommend the sk4g. coming from all-touch smartphones like the nexus one and hd2 running android and the hd7, i am happy with the sidekick 4g. i generally avoided android phones with qwerty keyboards because most are sliders and i hate phones with too much movement.
the droid pro was my dream form factor for an android phone but since i am happy with tmo there was no way i would switch to verizon just for that phone. plus the resolution on the droid pros smaller screen was a turnoff.
the slider on the sidekick 4g is pretty sturdy. the keyboard is awesome. i use my phone a lot for business and the sidekick 4g was the last smartphone on my list. but after comparing to other qwerty androids out there the skg4 seemed to be one of the better.
the camera is only 3m and no led flash. but the quality of the pictures is pretty good for being 3m. depending on what rom i had on my hd2, the sk4g's cam took pics just as good.
the speakerphone is pretty good. better than any htc ive had.(g1, mytouch 3g, hd2, hd7, nexus one).
even though its mostly made of plastic, its pretty durable and not as 'cheap' feeling as some claim it to be. i actually think its one of the more better built phones ive had(besides the hd2).
as for performance, even though it has the same 1GHz hummingbird processor as the galaxy s, tab, etc... it doesnt feel as smooth. most of the lag can be noticed while unlocking, navigating through any custom ui, and switching back to home screen from some apps. but once you are inside of an app it feels just as smooth and snappy as other 1GHz smartphones.
if i were you i'd probably wait until the mytouch 4g slide comes out.. its not too long. im not really digging the mytouch4g/slide's front looks and not liking how the touchscreen is fully exposed on all sides as opposed to the sk4g's screen/slider is protected on two sides.
I know my phones. I know it technically has the same guts as any Galaxy S phone. But I can tell you any Galaxy S phone feels so much more faster than this phone does. I mean I was shocked that the phone didn't perform like a 1ghz device should! I did install Bali with voodoo enabled and that didn't make much difference. While on the vibrant the difference was almost night and day.
And yes I pointed out that Cloud Text and the keyboard are Amazing!
But the phone is just sluggish.
If he is a power user, he needs to look elsewhere because this phone won't suffice your need of power. I mean I found my self restarting the phone every few hours while on my myTouch 4G I never had to restart.
Another thing I should also point out is that battery life isn't the greatest. The phone wasn't lasting me even 8 hours a day (I'm more of a power user). While the myTouch would last me 22+ hours on the Virtuous Unity ROM or 18+ hours on stock. The phone with a keyboard that lasted the longest that I ever owned (android) was the G2 I was getting a solid 36+ hours of use. It was Stunning!!
My suggestion would be wait a few weeks and you can get the myTouch 4G Slide.
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Listen , you should do a bit research before posting in this thread imo .
It's a 1GHz of course it lack's performance , the Galaxy & SK4G have the same processor & gut's & once you install a custom kernel & ROM you will be fine , there is no Wifi Calling issue & browsing the web is fine , Cloud Text & the keyboard is amazing .
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I'm trading my sidekick for a nexus one next week. Unless I change my mind.
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I would recommend this phone if you are a hardcore qwerty user like myself. I came from the MT4G and I got this phone through craigslist and I have been satisfied. Is it a high end phone? Maybe if this came out last summer but it does not stop this from being a good phone. Even though the development is not as great as other phones ( I do appreciate the support!) There is not much wrong with this phone. 3 MP is weak for a camera nowadays but it does its job. Is the phone sluggish at times? Sometimes but with the gingerclone rom and bali kernal it has decreased. With more roms in kernals in the future it should change indeed. As for the battery I let the battery die and let it charge completely and no lie got 24+ hours of battery life which consisted of playing Chrono Trigger on my phone (keyboard controller ftw) but as everyone else has been saying if you want value and a 5 row keyboard then sk4g, if you wanna throw some more money and wanna be that suave guy with a fancy phone then please get the mt4gs and tell me how it is ;-)
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Not a good trade. I wouldn't do it.
Try to see if you can get a Nexus S instead.
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I'm trading my sidekick for a nexus one next week. Unless I change my mind.
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most people who are all hardcore with buying the latest and greatest may disagree. My point of contention is, when your a guy like me who has to keep up with multiple females at any given moment there is no better phone. Simply put, *****es love texting. The only competition we have as far as touch screen texting is the Droid boomerang. I forget the model designation but the thing is ****ing retarded huge. Next up we have the blackberry, but the closed source OS was the major boner killer for me.
With all that said, if you **** *****es, like lots of *****es. There is no better phone. All the other ************s struggle to keep up. I don't know how, but all the females I know get at least 45 WPM out of those ****ing dinosaur Nokia bricks. I can't do that ****, but I do know that with a SK4G I can get 45 WPM+ with nearly 100% accuracy.
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most people who are all hardcore with buying the latest and greatest may disagree. My point of contention is, when your a guy like me who has to keep up with multiple females at any given moment there is no better phone. Simply put, *****es love texting. The only competition we have as far as touch screen texting is the Droid boomerang. I forget the model designation but the thing is ****ing retarded huge. Next up we have the blackberry, but the closed source OS was the major boner killer for me.
With all that said, if you **** *****es, like lots of *****es. There is no better phone. All the other ************s struggle to keep up. I don't know how, but all the females I know get at least 45 WPM out of those ****ing dinosaur Nokia bricks. I can't do that ****, but I do know that with a SK4G I can get 45 WPM+ with nearly 100% accuracy.
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Lol... you say some dumb **** bro...
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Just wait for the 4g slide
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As the title says it, should i trade it for desire z? ive read some stuff online, like i know captivate has an amazing screen, looks good, bigger screen , samoled, but the thing is it sells for less like 350$ if your lucky.. should i do it?
Should i wear the Blue Shirt or the Green Shirt?
green btw b honest lol .
I, personally, would take the trade. I prefer the look and feel of the Desire Z (though the keys are a bit small), and being an HTC device, it tends to have a much larger community following/support (like cyanogenmod and the like)... but that's just my opinion on it
inital rooting and stuff is a bit more in-depth than captivate but it is totally doable and had many of the same options. i originally was going to get the Z because it has keyboard too. after looking into the extra crap i was kind of releaved. check out the XDA wiki on that phone for more info
I like the desire z, I'm partial to HTC products and the use of adb tools mainly because I have zero formal training in any computer training. Using adb to root has a certain wow factor for me. However I had the inspire for a week and returned it after bringing it back to stock form. I just couldn't justify paying the full retail price for it. So, now I'm back to the captivate using cog 4 and have a new renowned love for this phone. Ultimately its up to you. I personally think the captivate is a great device especially with a base froyo and GPS being fixed. Build quality would go to HTC though. I hope this helped as its a long rant.
I was really not impressed with the inspire, or sense for that matter.
After messing around with the inspire for two days and seeing how much stuff sense adds in it actually makes me feel less bad about t-wiz. With touch wiz after you delete the launcher and some samsung apk's, alls that's left is twframework which besides adding some small cosmetic stuff adds the shortcuts to the pull down menu, which I like. The inspire had more htc apks than almost the total amount of apks in my rom. There was almost 60 framework files before deodexing the inspire. The inspire is generally quick as far as cpu stuff, like app to qr. I use this app sometimes for a real life cpu task tests when testing kernels and whatnot. The inspire will generate the apps 2-3 times faster than the captivate. Despite this, the captivate just feels waaaaaay smoother and LESS laggy mostly I guess because the GPU is so much better.
i have been using my HTC Vision (Tmob G2) unlocked with my ATT card (most of my time is spent on wifi anyway) and while i absolutely love the battery life i get with the DesireZ rom on it, i hate the keyboard. i have been trying to force myself to use it more and more, but i keep wanting to go back to one of my captivates and swype....i feel the trial period wont last long now...my cappies are calling my name
Dilli, my exact feeling. That's why when I had ilthe inspire I removed sense completely. Its a beautiful fast phone with launcherpro minus the tiny battery but I could not justify the full retail price.
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Dilli, my exact feeling. That's why when I had ilthe inspire I removed sense completely. Its a beautiful fast phone with launcherpro minus the tiny battery but I could not justify the full retail price.
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Yup I did the same thing. Instead of wasting my early upgrade on a phone that's hardware is gonna be outdated very(if not already) soon when it seems like this year is gonna bring some crazy phones and cpus and whatnot. I paid the full 450 for it, returned it about a week later and bought the atrix for 400. Despite the whole bootloader issue, the atrix IS without a doubt the fastest phone I've ever used, even if the system is not fully utilizing its dual core yet, which I kinda hope its not cause when it does, its gonna be insane. And running app to qr on the atrix is even almost twice as fast as the inspire, probably 4 times faster than the captivate, plus so far is buttery smooth. The inspire was almost a tradeoff for a little bit of speed but greatly reduced smoothness. Atrix so far has both, plus I actually like the screen a lot.
wow damn, but if anything i can always sell it for more, in canada desire z sells for 400$ plus, captivate.. barley sells and its furstrating since captivate is better in aspects of screen weight and stuff and battery is better!! Inspire is the Desire HD in canada? seriously you guys didnt like that/ that looks like a sick device, anyways might go for a red torch xD sell it and add about 100$ and buy a new iphone4 front facing camera <3
I would take a captivate or an inspire for that matter any day of the week over an iphone 4. Had one of those too, along with every other iphone and was very involved in the jailbreak scene, up until I tried android. There's no way ill EVER go back to ios. This is my opinion, but ios completely sucks compared to android. You'll be bored with it in a week, even if you jailbreak. I would literally rather have a captivate on stock 2.1 than a jailbroken iphone 4
really? dont get me wrong android is nice, but i like to have that GPS option working on an iphone than not workin on a captivate + i personally dont like the touch buttons prefer the one form i9000
Well as the title says it... Are there any SGS4G ex owners in here?
If so what are some of the things you like about the G2x than the SGS4G?
Also what do you miss about the SGS4G?
I'm really debating on buying the G2x, I haven't seen one or played with one first hand so that's why I ask... I did see the video review on engadget.com ...
And yes I was hating on this phone about 2 weeks ago but the last couple of days my SGS4G is pissing me off... the whole thing started when I read the Apple vs Samsung deal and yes this things feels like a knock off iPhone and then yesterday when my mom saw my phone and said is that the new iPhone I was like hell no... then this phone is nice and light but feels cheap compare to my brothers EVO or my old HTC Pro 2... the nice screen is not cutting it no more... makes me wish o should of stayed with my iPhone for a bit more till the G2x came out...
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Well, i personally think that the g2x is a great improvement going from the sgs4g. I made that jump, and i regret nothing. The g2x is just so much faster and more reliable...plus it'll get gingerbread much sooner lol
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Well as the title says it... Are there any SGS4G ex owners in here?
If so what are some of the things you like about the G2x than the SGS4G?
Also what do you miss about the SGS4G?
I'm really debating on buying the G2x, I haven't seen one or played with one first hand so that's why I ask... I did see the video review on engadget.com ...
And yes I was hating on this phone about 2 weeks ago but the last couple of days my SGS4G is pissing me off... the whole thing started when I read the Apple vs Samsung deal and yes this things feels like a knock off iPhone and then yesterday when my mom saw my phone and said is that the new iPhone I was like hell no... then this phone is nice and light but feels cheap compare to my brothers EVO or my old HTC Pro 2... the nice screen is not cutting it no more... makes me wish o should of stayed with my iPhone for a bit more till the G2x came out...
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Former SGS4G here. It's worth the switch. The only thing I wish it had is a SAMOLED screen. I do miss the vibrant colors and contrast of the SGS4G.
As for the whole iphone / samsung thing, do keep in mind that iphone totally copied LG in its design and that the iphone is made by Samsung and LG. 90% of it's parts. Most people don't know this.
I like the Galaxy S line...the plastic back cover is why some are perceiving it as being cheap, but it's not. If it had a metal cover it would have felt more solid.
I was thankful for the light weight and sure glad it was light when I dropped my Galaxy S a few times. It held up very well. If you were to drop an iphone it'd be toast.
"The bigger and heavier it is, the harder it'll fall."
I'm coming from the Galaxy S 4G and I don't regret a bit switching to this phone
First thing I see as a huge advantage over the SGS4G is Dev support. Team Whiskey already got one and Cyanogen already got one too plus many more others, CWM is already working and it's only been a few days since release.
I like how the G2x runs, way smoother than SGS4G because of the Dual Core, Web-Browsing is super smooth.
Anything I am missing from my SGS4G?
Well, SGS4G was less buggy than this first release of a Dual-Core but other than that, I don't miss anything. btw, SGS4G was buggy too but less than this. I am sure that with the much bigger dev community for G2x those bugs should go away pretty fast
Bugs that I have found so far?
-4G turning on when WiFi is supposely "On"
-4G disconnects too much
-4G is not as fast as i would expect
-Randomly changing to 2G in same area with 4G
-Battery draining fast due to this connection glitches
-One freeze and reboot so far but not really an issue. Happened many more times with my SGS4G
That is it for now
ex GS4G. No regrets.
Thinks I like
A. LED Flash
B. Even though the specs say different. It seems easier to hold, not as wide. But it could be my imagination.
C. Speed - Really effect programs, flash, browsing.
D. Video quality
E. Almost stock
F. No memory issues, GS4G ran out of internal member until you deleted the fota files, but even then you only go 200mb. After installing all my software I am showing 1.15 GB left
G. The Speaker is nice and loud
Thinks I don't Like
A. The recessed earpiece is the same as the EVO and I hated it. Being on the phone for a while bothers me. The Galaxy was smooth.
B. Battery is a little better on the Samsung, but I was rooted. Before I start removing things, I want to give the phone time. I really have no need to root right now. Bloatware is a minimum and it has tethering
C. Some elements of touchwiz,, I liked (no stoning please)
D. Wifi Calling seems to be a little better on the Galaxy and connected faster.
E. Weird drop outs on the LG.
F. Noled notifications were nice. I have LED notification on the g2x but they are generic (but good)
Was out today and thought I'd stop by and check out the infuse...
I spent about 5 minutes goin over it...
The screen looks awesome....
Touchwiz looks cheap...
GPS could not lock on my location..but the Atrix and the Inspire on display had no trouble at all..
I may be a little jealous if the display and battery size of the infuse...otherwise I'm stickin with the inspire...
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good there really isn't a plus from other galaxy s phones. Sure there's a better camera, bigger screen, ffc, and a better screen but what's hardware without software?
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I messed with one for five minutes as well. Salesman was really hyping it up how it was the best phone on at&t right now. I agree the screen is nice but I still prefer the inspire.
I feel just like that whenever I look at my wife’s Galaxy Captivate’s bright screen, until I try to navigate that damn Touchwiz. Grass will always be greener on the other side when it comes to technical toys. But with all the things I can do with my Inspire 4G, I can do without the faster CPU, front facing camera, and the extra .2 inches of high def screen until next Inspire (something comparable to) comes out.
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I messed with one for five minutes as well. Salesman was really hyping it up how it was the best phone on at&t right now. I agree the screen is nice but I still prefer the inspire.
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if we sell enough of them, samsung gives us goodies, we win points that we can redeem for electronics and such...
so you're damn right its the best phone we have at AT&T right now..
(i still use my inspire and i think its way better than both infuse and atrix, much more solid built etc)
but yea.. when the next phone comes out that gives us salesmen something good in return, guess what.. it's gonna be the best phone you can buy for your money!! i guarantee it!! *wink*
The Infuse looks very interesting to me.
I checked out a non-working demo unit at Costco and it's about the same size as the Inspire and the screen was noticeably bigger. Bravo Samsung for coming out with a 4.5" screen phone and using as much real estate on the front of the phone as possible.
The GPS lock problem... hmmm... gee Samsung... haven't you learned?
As far as the UI: Come on... most of us hate TouchWiz. That's a given. Just replace it with LauncherPro or ADWLauncher. I bet half of the Inspire users here don't use Sense (though I do and actually like Sense).
Would I trade in my Inspire for the Infuse (I bought from Costco): No. I'm still pissed off at Samsung over the Captivate GPS issues... but if the Infuse turns out to have 100% working hardware and features as advertised it'd be a step in the right direction winning me back. I would recommend it to non-phone obsessed friends who don't care about quick OS updates.
We'll be hearing about any defects or problems within a week if there are any.
I played with one too. Reminded me of my captivate just bigger. kinda cool, but eh. I still prefer my Inspire!
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The Infuse looks very interesting to me.
I checked out a non-working demo unit at Costco and it's about the same size as the Inspire and the screen was noticeably bigger. Bravo Samsung for coming out with a 4.5" screen phone and using as much real estate on the front of the phone as possible.
The GPS lock problem... hmmm... gee Samsung... haven't you learned?
As far as the UI: Come on... most of us hate TouchWiz. That's a given. Just replace it with LauncherPro or ADWLauncher. I bet half of the Inspire users here don't use Sense (though I do and actually like Sense).
Would I trade in my Inspire for the Infuse (I bought from Costco): No. I'm still pissed off at Samsung over the Captivate GPS issues... but if the Infuse turns out to have 100% working hardware and features as advertised it'd be a step in the right direction winning me back. I would recommend it to non-phone obsessed friends who don't care about quick OS updates.
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I love sense, and when I had my captivated, everything about it was HTC. notification bar, battery meter, signal meter, app icons, etc. I wasn't phone obsessed as far as updates until I got into Android. So that may change for them.
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Samsung's hardware is tempting, but I'll never forget the garbage I (we) went through with the Captivate. Dying earpiece and external speakers (both happened to me on different handsets), sleep death, no GPS, the OTA update that bricked stock phones...all of this and more, and the phone hasn't even been out for a year.
Not only that, but Samsung insulted us by releasing a GPS "fix" app in the market that "restored the GPS to factory settings"...you know, the ones that didn't work in the first place?
I'm not a fanboy and won't spend my money buying products from a company that is all to happy to ass-rape me for giving them business. Apple has the luxury for rabid fanboyism, so no matter what they do, people will still buy their products. Samsung doesn't have that, they just think they do for some reason.
The good side of the Infuse is his unlocked bootloader.
My wife has a Inspire and I have a captivate, I have to say the captivate is really easier to unlock. But I agree with most of you about the captivate, a stock captivate is really not perfect, but I'm running my cappy with Contiuuum 5.4.1 (Android 2.3.3) and I can say bye bye to all the problems, my gps is a dream and my battery time is amazing.
I have a SE Xperia X10 and I'm in the market for a new phone, so I went to my local AT&T store for the Sunday release of the Infuse. I played with it, and with the Inspire, for about an hour.
I came away from the experience thinking my next phone will be an HTC...now if I can only hold out for the upcoming "Holiday." hee hee. Here's why-
1. I have owned Samsungs before, including a brief stint with the Captivate, and I'm unimpressed with the company as far as updates and support.
2. The HTC aluminum unibody case just says "build quality" to me. The infuse felt just like the Captivate in the hand - like flimsy, cheap plastic that should not be used for high-end phones. I know some people want light weight, but come on - few extra grams won't kill ya and it just might save your phone if you're a little rough with it.
3. The Infuse's screen was way too color over-saturated for me. It's bright and clear, but looks surreal to me. I would tire of that in hurry.
4. I could detect no speed or smoothness advantage for the Infuse. Heck, I could load up a custom rom on the Inspire, overclock it conservatively and just beat the snot out of the Infuse... which leads me to....
5. There seems to be a whole lot more developer time and interest in the HTC devices, which means loads more fun for me.
I have both phones with me right now and here are my quick observations between the two phones (Inspire running current version of LeeDroid 2.3.3):
Web browsing: Inspire – Seems to load pages faster and better scrolling.
Camera: Infuse – For some reason the pictures from my Inspire produce a redish look and are too soft, almost out of focus.
Build quality: Inspire – HTC = solid. I don’t notice much difference when carrying them in my pocket as the Infuse is lighter.
Screen: Infuse - However the Inspire is not bad. I could live with both. After looking at the Infuse I do notice a little bit of softness to the Inspire’s text.
Call quality/Handset speaker: Infuse – I have always had an issue with the call quality of HTC devices for my taste. I have to say that the Infuse has one of the best sounding speakers. I would rate it on par with the iPhone 4 or better.
GPS: Infuse – I get a lock in about 10 seconds. Inspire takes about 1 minute with current ROM/Radio.
Battery life: Infuse – But not by much (10 to 15% better).
Speedtests: Infuse – Speed tests seam consistently higher using Speedtest.net (between 4-5 download and 1.5-2 upload).
Battery charging: Inspire – for some reason the Infuse (and most Samsung phones) take forever to fully charge.
Reception: Still need a few more days with the phone but did have an issue with it the very first call. Called AT&T to make a change to my account and dropped the call five times. The lady at AT&T apologized and said that her land line has been dropping a lot of calls lately (WTF?!?!). I should have a conclusion within the next few days.
I’m not going to get into Touchwiz vs. Sense as there are several write-ups on this but based upon the above, I’m leaning towards the Infuse. Call quality is fantastic on my side as well as the other side. I travel a lot so being in airports and cars this is very important for me. The other item is camera quality. Images may be a little oversaturated by they look sharp and I’m no longer to grabbing my wife’s iPhone 4 to take pictures or videos.
Hope this helps anyone looking at both of these devices and let me know if you have any questions.
I may have to reconsider. I spent another day playing with the phones at the ATT shop. I loaded up speedtest on the Inspire, Attrix and Infuse and ran it on each phone about five times. The Infuse consistently beat the others on download and upload. It was close with the Attrix, but the Inspire got its clock cleaned every time.
The screen on the Infuse started to grow on me when I got out of the start screen and its surreal, over the top background and icon colors. When you look at web pages, movies and snapped pictures, it looks amazingly good. The blacks are so very black, even way off axis.
I also played around with the cameras and I have to say that the Infuse is outstanding. Very fast focus and snap and consistently better looking shots...well, could have been the better screen making them appear to be better.
With all the apps coming out now that utilize video chat with the front camera, I don't know if I could go another year or so without one and of course the Infuse has a nice one.
The only down side I had with the Infuse was the build quality. Now that I think about it, it was really the "feel" and the super light weight. Then it dawned on me...duh!...I'm going to put a case on it, so that can be easily corrected.
So now the only thing that I have left to quibble about is the lack of notification lights on the Infuse.....and yet, something tells me that there will be an app or fix that converts some of those other front lights to message notifications. And then of course there's the relative lack of developer input on Samsung devices.
Ok, so do you think I am talking myself into the Infuse?....maybe, just maybe.
Lmao u diss the infuse then come back and suddenly its way better? Little lost in denial
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Every Samsung phone I have seen / had my hands on felt poorly made and cheap. Felt like if I touched it the wrong way I would break it! Plus it doesn't have a dual core CPU so I am not seeing the benefit to switching to it and paying $100 more than the Inspire.
Yes indeed. This inspire has fallen off the back of the car and bounced and slid a goodways before realizing that on this narrow road here in mesquite. I picked it up after backtracking and had dust on the screen that's it. And even had it.upstairs and my nephew dropped the phone 1.5 stories and not one crack nor scratch. Btw had a platinum series casing on the whole time.
NO INSPIRES WERE HURT THRU THESE HORRID TIMES
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Every Samsung phone I have seen / had my hands on felt poorly made and cheap. Felt like if I touched it the wrong way I would break it! Plus it doesn't have a dual core CPU so I am not seeing the benefit to switching to it and paying $100 more than the Inspire.
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If I wanted a Captivate, I would buy a Captivate. The Infuse is just a stupid phone in my opinion. It's not bad, I'm sure, but it doesn't make sense to buy one with the Holiday and Ma Bell's version of the Galaxy S II right around the corner.
Coredroid Inspire 4G
I am going out on a limb here and share my deepest feelings with all of you.
I LOVE my g2x!
There, I said it. I feel a little vulnerable right now... may need a hug.
There is so much anti g2x here and it makes me sad. This is a great phone. Nay, a great big beast of s phone. It has it foibles(bet you don't hear that often) but they will be worked out. I had a troubled phone for a while... reboots, battery heat up, etc... didn't return it, but I kept fiddling with it, removed some apps, messed with settings, trolled the forums and I haven't had a reboot in a week! Runs as smooth as aloe vera lotion now.
I think that people are jumping ship too early, and for the Sensation?!? Really?? That phone is also having issues with reboots and stuff not working... PLUS it is slower, has an iffy screen and runs Sense!
So if you do trade down for that other phone... just go, and stop telling us about it.
Good luck and we'll see you when you come back...
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+1 for foibles
Its a gorgeous piece of hardware, with a really solid cameras, and I'm loving having the speakers in another place than laid flat on the back.
Not being satisfied with the dev support, which is kind of more a privilege than most people here realize, made me realize that having a phone that works more often than not is worth running on Stock(with root and a few choice mods).
Having been around since 1.5 dropped, I thought about what I needed in custom roms then vs what I need now. The G1 needed severe performance boosts to operate like the current crop does on its worst days, apps2sd and keeping an ext partition for caching on was important. I got my power control widget and navigation in 1.6 (I was a big fan of SuperD roms) and I was ecstatic.
Fast forward and I get damn near most of that right out the box. do i need the miscelleaneous features of cm7, like notificationbar power controls? Nope, I can go back to living like I did with my eclair Nexus One(and then with CM6) or my G1.
So comparing the current offerings to just stock, I dont feel like im at a total loss. It's just the way this phones lifespan panned out, and really you cant win them all.
And I am definitely not impressed with the Sensation and Sense3.0. My boss broke the volume key on the store demo the day he opened the box. Dropped it once and the rocker snapped out in the worst way. weird design choices all over that phone.
I really think the dev support will happen when GB drops. Then we can find the new things we didn't know we couldn't live without.
God, remember 1.5? Seems like so long ago... I remember way back when jesusfreke was showing us the what was possible, and when cyan got his cease and desist letter from google... my G1 will always have a special place in my heart...
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I love using the G2X and I'm glad I get to keep her. She will be my hacking/gaming phone. Both the G2X and the Sensation have there own problems like you said. I was just lucky enough to get two bug free devices. As said in my review, I think the G2X has a smoother UI and is very responsive. That being said, the. Sensation doesn't even come close until you disable all of those silly animations on Sense. Some games run better on the G2X and some run better on the Sensation. Homerun Hartford 3D for example runs smoother and looks better on the Sensation but dungeon defenders runs smoother on the G2X. Everyone just needs to start making there own decissions and stop making posts like "Bellow Sensation. Bye G2X". I picked the Sensation as my daily driver due to the larger display without being bigger that the G2X. The colors are sharper and appear to pop more on the Sensation but the blacks on the G2X a great. When both devices are sitting right next to each other its unbelievable how muck crisper and clearer the text on the Sensation is. I also use the camera a lot and the Sensation takes much better photos and HD video. Both devices are great but I would say to someone who puts gaming at the top of there smart phone list, get the G2X. If your priority is emailing, web browsing, RSS, ebooks and taking pictures then get the Sensation.
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I love using the G2X and I'm glad I get to keep her. She will be my hacking/gaming phone. Both the G2X and the Sensation have there own problems like you said. I was just lucky enough to get two bug free devices. As said in my review, I think the G2X has a smoother UI and is very responsive. That being said, the. Sensation doesn't even come close until you disable all of those silly animations on Sense. Some games run better on the G2X and some run better on the Sensation. Homerun Hartford 3D for example runs smoother and looks better on the Sensation but dungeon defenders runs smoother on the G2X. Everyone just needs to start making there own decissions and stop making posts like "Bellow Sensation. Bye G2X". I picked the Sensation as my daily driver due to the larger display without being bigger that the G2X. The colors are sharper and appear to pop more on the Sensation but the blacks on the G2X a great. When both devices are sitting right next to each other its unbelievable how muck crisper and clearer the text on the Sensation is. I also use the camera a lot and the Sensation takes much better photos and HD video. Both devices are great but I would say to someone who puts gaming at the top of there smart phone list, get the G2X. If your priority is emailing, web browsing, RSS, ebooks and taking pictures then get the Sensation.
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My priorities are the second block but im still keeping the g2x that sensation just feels like a toy cant be havin that imma business man.
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i'm still a fresh new owner of my G2x (got it yesterday). but i've already thrown on 3 custom roms and have decided to stick w/the mcr GB leak (2.3.3) since its more vanilla than CM7. CM7 is just WAY to much extras i don't care for; i wish they had a kitchen sink option like paul's MCR roms do. i love being able to pick and choose what items and tweaks.
anywho, i've been an android owner since the N1 dropped and must say that it almost seems like its more people tinkering with an OS and parts they shouldn't be or don't understand. permission changes on a system file can cause your phone to do some crazy things, i've done it a few times myself (get in a boot loop by renaming a system sound or font, etc)
the G2x's hardware specs made me drop the full off contract price on it. i'm just hoping we see the GB roms mature even more, hopefully once the official GB hits; we'll still have some devs w/one that will update their roms.
sure would love to see a Honeycomb port. this thing has the specs.
yea i cant say enough about my g2x, i really have no problems other then minimal screen bleed and it dont bother me cuz i cant see it in everyday use!....i have no random reboots or sod, i absolutely love the power of this phone, **** the other day i was playing with my wifes mytouch 4g and remember that thing was fast and held its own, i remember when i had one i thought damn this is fast....the other day when i was done playing with it i gave it back to her, and thought to myself damn hun your phone is a turd compared to mine lol....my point being the mytouch 4g was a very fast phone and this phone just digs in its ass! i love everything about it i will definitely say it is the best phone i ever had and i aint going nowhere.....
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yea i cant say enough about my g2x, i really have no problems other then minimal screen bleed and it dont bother me cuz i cant see it in everyday use!....i have no random reboots or sod, i absolutely love the power of this phone, **** the other day i was playing with my wifes mytouch 4g and remember that thing was fast and held its own, i remember when i had one i thought damn this is fast....the other day when i was done playing with it i gave it back to her, and thought to myself damn hun your phone is a turd compared to mine lol....my point being the mytouch 4g was a very fast phone and this phone just digs in its ass! i love everything about it i will definitely say it is the best phone i ever had and i aint going nowhere.....
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cyan got his cease and desist letter from google...
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dark times for everyone
Another satisfied G2X owner right here. Got mine off some guy on Craigslist before I'd read about all the issues people were having. I think I only kept it stock for maybe 1 day before rooting it and flashing roms on it. I've been using it for over a month now and I haven't once regretted buying it.
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+1 for foibles
Its a gorgeous piece of hardware, with a really solid cameras, and I'm loving having the speakers in another place than laid flat on the back.
Not being satisfied with the dev support, which is kind of more a privilege than most people here realize, made me realize that having a phone that works more often than not is worth running on Stock(with root and a few choice mods)
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Have you tried the Ultimate G2X rom?
It has been my daily driver for a couple of weeks now and I have had absolutely no issues with it. It's based on Froyo so all of the hardware works as it should (no wonky battery issues, HDMI works, GPS works, etc). It has a very nice dark theme to it (I never liked the light colored stock Froyo), and is very snappy and responsive.
It's a very nice rom indeed. Very fast. Very stable. And everything works.
FWIW
Very satisfied G2x owner here. All around the best cellphone i have ever owned.
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Have you tried the Ultimate G2X rom?
It has been my daily driver for a couple of weeks now and I have had absolutely no issues with it. It's based on Froyo so all of the hardware works as it should (no wonky battery issues, HDMI works, GPS works, etc). It has a very nice dark theme to it (I never liked the light colored stock Froyo), and is very snappy and responsive.
It's a very nice rom indeed. Very fast. Very stable. And everything works.
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+1 for the Ultimate Rom. I've been using it since the day it was released with zero issues. But...Faux's Rom is starting to look VERY interesting...
I've been a pretty vocal complainer about this phone. I've gotten four. But my complaints have mostly been about the lack of real support and communication. It sucks that LG and Tmo put us all in this position.
I'm getting the Sensation tomorrow. I got the upgrade price. But I'm only considering it a bridge phone until the bugs get worked out of the G2X. When I thought I only had the option of one phone, I HAD to leave for the Sensation. In my case I initially chose the G2X knowing about and comparing it to the Sensation. Sensy is indeed a great phone, but side by side, we all know the G2X is just.....well, better!
But my cell phone is my primary communication device, I don't have a wired home phone. I've had reception issues and it has been too buggy to use the basic features. Not having a choice I was forced to move to the Sensy.
But being in this position, with both phones, changes the equasion. I get the luxury of waiting for the update. I've now decided to request a fifth one after all.....just because the screen bleed IS definatively worse on this fourth one. But if they refuse, I still feel like the screen bleed is a non issue in everyday use. But it appsolutely screams at me when I turn the phone on....
I truly believe that all the other issues will be fixed with the updates(s).
I've spent the last two days putting the phone back where is was before my reset last weekend. I've had no reboots all week, but my data has been giving me fits. I've missed not playing with it this week, so couldn't resist putting it all back. Supposed to get Sensy tommorrow.....have such mixed feelings. This sucks....got two beautiful phones and so conflicted and angst-ridden. I guess I can think of worse positions to be in LOL.
Happy Fathers day to my fellow fathers. And all you mothers for putting up with us!
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I've been a pretty vocal complainer about this phone. I've gotten four. But my complaints have mostly been about the lack of real support and communication. It sucks that LG and Tmo put us all in this position.
I'm getting the Sensation tomorrow. I got the upgrade price. But I'm only considering it a bridge phone until the bugs get worked out of the G2X. When I thought I only had the option of one phone, I HAD to leave for the Sensation. In my case I initially chose the G2X knowing about and comparing it to the Sensation. Sensy is indeed a great phone, but side by side, we all know the G2X is just.....well, better!
But my cell phone is my primary communication device, I don't have a wired home phone. I've had reception issues and it has been too buggy to use the basic features. Not having a choice I was forced to move to the Sensy.
But being in this position, with both phones, changes the equasion. I get the luxury of waiting for the update. I've now decided to request a fifth one after all.....just because the screen bleed IS definatively worse on this fourth one. But if they refuse, I still feel like the screen bleed is a non issue in everyday use. But it appsolutely screams at me when I turn the phone on....
I truly believe that all the other issues will be fixed with the updates(s).
I've spent the last two days putting the phone back where is was before my reset last weekend. I've had no reboots all week, but my data has been giving me fits. I've missed not playing with it this week, so couldn't resist putting it all back. Supposed to get Sensy tommorrow.....have such mixed feelings. This sucks....got two beautiful phones and so conflicted and angst-ridden. I guess I can think of worse positions to be in LOL.
Happy Fathers day to my fellow fathers. And all you mothers for putting up with us!
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There is no doubt in my mind that the G2X is snappier and more responsive than the Sensation within the UI but in my mind there is plenty of other things that go into making a phone better. Yes, I care about speed and power but when the ONLY difference in speed I see is in the UI, it's not a big deal in my opinion. The G2X's display does have better blacks but the Sensation has better colors, sharper text, bigger display and a brighter screen. When both phones are in direct sunlight, it's not even a close race. The Sensation wins hands down.
Applications run just as fast, if not faster on the Sensation. One of the only games I play religiously is HomeRun Battle 3D and it is in fact smoother plus looks a lot better on the Sensation.
When you finally get to use the Sensation you will realize that the only thing the G2X does better is a speedy UI. Everything from the camera to the contacts app is inferior.
In the end, I wish I liked the G2X better since I paid retail price for it and even though mine barely had any bugs, the Sensation is still the all around better phone.
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There is no doubt in my mind that the G2X is snappier and more responsive than the Sensation within the UI but in my mind there is plenty of other things that go into making a phone better. Yes, I care about speed and power but when the ONLY difference in speed I see is in the UI, it's not a big deal in my opinion. The G2X's display does have better blacks but the Sensation has better colors, sharper text, bigger display and a brighter screen. When both phones are in direct sunlight, it's not even a close race. The Sensation wins hands down.
Applications run just as fast, if not faster on the Sensation. One of the only games I play religiously is HomeRun Battle 3D and it is in fact smoother plus looks a lot better on the Sensation.
When you finally get to use the Sensation you will realize that the only thing the G2X does better is a speedy UI. Everything from the camera to the contacts app is inferior.
In the end, I wish I liked the G2X better since I paid retail price for it and even though mine barely had any bugs, the Sensation is still the all around better phone.
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I can't speak to the differences in the screen because I've only used the G2X in everyday situations. I do know that I have no trouble reading my screen in sunlight.
As for the different UI and different camera, etc that you mentioned, I think you're overlooking the fantastic hardware that makes up the G2X. I'm not knocking the Sensation because it may be a better solution for some. But I am very very satisfied with the G2X. Many of the roms that are out now have ironed most of the issues and made this phone extremely reliable. I don't have any issues with mine. And I can flash any camera, homescreen app, etc I want and customize to my hearts content.
My point is its a great piece of hardware that has some buggy software from the factory. Iron out the bugs and this thing flies.
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I have had my phone for about a month now, hated it at first but have slowly gotten it to the point of stable and fast.
Running CM7 builds for two weeks now (since the bugs have slowly gotten worked out). No reboots or issues, data is fast, battery life is good and everything is just "snappy".
I have given up on LG support for this phone, I won't be buying another LG phone again. Rushing this product to market and abandoning it shows that they hold the consumer in contempt. Hardware and build quality this phone is amazing, software support is terrible.
If LG was smart they would release their source for the phone and allow the true experts (rom cookers) to have their way with perfecting it, LG's software team isn't worth the paper their over sized paychecks are printed on.
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I can't speak to the differences in the screen because I've only used the G2X in everyday situations. I do know that I have no trouble reading my screen in sunlight.
As for the different UI and different camera, etc that you mentioned, I think you're overlooking the fantastic hardware that makes up the G2X. I'm not knocking the Sensation because it may be a better solution for some. But I am very very satisfied with the G2X. Many of the roms that are out now have ironed most of the issues and made this phone extremely reliable. I don't have any issues with mine. And I can flash any camera, homescreen app, etc I want and customize to my hearts content.
My point is its a great piece of hardware that has some buggy software from the factory. Iron out the bugs and this thing flies.
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Flashing all the camera apps in the world won't change the actually camera. When I said camera, I meant it as in hardware, not software. If you want to talk software than I can tell you, I think the G2X camera app is better than the Sensations. By the way. My G2X really didn't have any bugs at all except for some minor screen bleed. I thought it was a pretty reliable phone if you ask me. I know I'm keeping mine for a little bit so I have something to hack until HTC unlocks the Sensations bootloader. Lastly, I didn't really have any problems reading my G2X in sunlight either but it doesn't mean something else can't look better.
BobbyDukes707 said:
I really think the dev support will happen when GB drops. Then we can find the new things we didn't know we couldn't live without.
God, remember 1.5? Seems like so long ago... I remember way back when jesusfreke was showing us the what was possible, and when cyan got his cease and desist letter from google... my G1 will always have a special place in my heart...
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Ah, yeah. I remember fiddling with my G1, when JesusFreake and Haykuro were the kings. Those were the days..
</nostalgia>
My main phone, I had to switch to my backup G2 for the next few months. I can't go back my g2x for the time being, its complicated to explain.
Its now 2 weeks since the switch and I miss my G2x, just snappier, faster, and just better overall device. Turns out some of the things I complained about followed me on the G2. Its the email syncs I always complain about. Its a CM7 issue and I believe the memory gets so used up by my other apps that the android email just crashes. Saw the same symptoms on my G2. Maybe its the 500mb of ram. Owned a mytouch 4g and didn't have that, but I digress.
The things I miss:
The big screen. 3.7 inches isn't enough for my fat fingers. I make so many mistakes.
The snalpier a.d faster reaction. Of course
better reception and signal. It handles 4g signal better
Physical keyboards just overrated.
The only thing that does surprise me is just how well the G2 holds its charge. Moderate use and lots of texting, I really survive 8 plus hours on the G2. And still have juice left like 45%
I wanna go back to G2x but now its my media device at home while the G2 serves as my main phone. It just handles better.
Just wanted to share my thoughts. I miss this phone as my main device.
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My main phone, I had to switch to my backup G2 for the next few months. I can't go back my g2x for the time being, its complicated to explain.
Its now 2 weeks since the switch and I miss my G2x, just snappier, faster, and just better overall device. Turns out some of the things I complained about followed me on the G2. Its the email syncs I always complain about. Its a CM7 issue and I believe the memory gets so used up by my other apps that the android email just crashes. Saw the same symptoms on my G2. Maybe its the 500mb of ram. Owned a mytouch 4g and didn't have that, but I digress.
The things I miss:
The big screen. 3.7 inches isn't enough for my fat fingers. I make so many mistakes.
The snalpier a.d faster reaction. Of course
better reception and signal. It handles 4g signal better
Physical keyboards just overrated.
The only thing that does surprise me is just how well the G2 holds its charge. Moderate use and lots of texting, I really survive 8 plus hours on the G2. And still have juice left like 45%
I wanna go back to G2x but now its my media device at home while the G2 serves as my main phone. It just handles better.
Just wanted to share my thoughts. I miss this phone as my main device.
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tl;dr. I get over a days battery life on my G2x. Two of veeery light use.
going team crackberry for a while till gn drops in price. saw it awesome. meanwhile selling my g2x im only using it as a portable media device anyways... im sure i can hold on for like 2-3 months on ****ty crackberry
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going team crackberry for a while till gn drops in price. saw it awesome. meanwhile selling my g2x im only using it as a portable media device anyways... im sure i can hold on for like 2-3 months on ****ty crackberry
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Wait for something else. GN gpu is bad. I would wait for the Galaxy S2 HD version to come to the states (or get it from outside of the states).
Please think about the T-Mobile GS2. It rocks my socks. Biggest screen you could want without being obnoxious, and also a pretty nice dev community, especially with ICS coming.
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GBGamer said:
Please think about the T-Mobile GS2. It rocks my socks. Biggest screen you could want without being obnoxious, and also a pretty nice dev community, especially with ICS coming.
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Agreed. GNex is a great phone but SGSII is planning to habitually refresh their product line. Attention to consumers gets major brownie points in my book.
cough LG cough