As the title says it, should i trade it for desire z? ive read some stuff online, like i know captivate has an amazing screen, looks good, bigger screen , samoled, but the thing is it sells for less like 350$ if your lucky.. should i do it?
Should i wear the Blue Shirt or the Green Shirt?
green btw b honest lol .
I, personally, would take the trade. I prefer the look and feel of the Desire Z (though the keys are a bit small), and being an HTC device, it tends to have a much larger community following/support (like cyanogenmod and the like)... but that's just my opinion on it
inital rooting and stuff is a bit more in-depth than captivate but it is totally doable and had many of the same options. i originally was going to get the Z because it has keyboard too. after looking into the extra crap i was kind of releaved. check out the XDA wiki on that phone for more info
I like the desire z, I'm partial to HTC products and the use of adb tools mainly because I have zero formal training in any computer training. Using adb to root has a certain wow factor for me. However I had the inspire for a week and returned it after bringing it back to stock form. I just couldn't justify paying the full retail price for it. So, now I'm back to the captivate using cog 4 and have a new renowned love for this phone. Ultimately its up to you. I personally think the captivate is a great device especially with a base froyo and GPS being fixed. Build quality would go to HTC though. I hope this helped as its a long rant.
I was really not impressed with the inspire, or sense for that matter.
After messing around with the inspire for two days and seeing how much stuff sense adds in it actually makes me feel less bad about t-wiz. With touch wiz after you delete the launcher and some samsung apk's, alls that's left is twframework which besides adding some small cosmetic stuff adds the shortcuts to the pull down menu, which I like. The inspire had more htc apks than almost the total amount of apks in my rom. There was almost 60 framework files before deodexing the inspire. The inspire is generally quick as far as cpu stuff, like app to qr. I use this app sometimes for a real life cpu task tests when testing kernels and whatnot. The inspire will generate the apps 2-3 times faster than the captivate. Despite this, the captivate just feels waaaaaay smoother and LESS laggy mostly I guess because the GPU is so much better.
i have been using my HTC Vision (Tmob G2) unlocked with my ATT card (most of my time is spent on wifi anyway) and while i absolutely love the battery life i get with the DesireZ rom on it, i hate the keyboard. i have been trying to force myself to use it more and more, but i keep wanting to go back to one of my captivates and swype....i feel the trial period wont last long now...my cappies are calling my name
Dilli, my exact feeling. That's why when I had ilthe inspire I removed sense completely. Its a beautiful fast phone with launcherpro minus the tiny battery but I could not justify the full retail price.
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Dilli, my exact feeling. That's why when I had ilthe inspire I removed sense completely. Its a beautiful fast phone with launcherpro minus the tiny battery but I could not justify the full retail price.
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Yup I did the same thing. Instead of wasting my early upgrade on a phone that's hardware is gonna be outdated very(if not already) soon when it seems like this year is gonna bring some crazy phones and cpus and whatnot. I paid the full 450 for it, returned it about a week later and bought the atrix for 400. Despite the whole bootloader issue, the atrix IS without a doubt the fastest phone I've ever used, even if the system is not fully utilizing its dual core yet, which I kinda hope its not cause when it does, its gonna be insane. And running app to qr on the atrix is even almost twice as fast as the inspire, probably 4 times faster than the captivate, plus so far is buttery smooth. The inspire was almost a tradeoff for a little bit of speed but greatly reduced smoothness. Atrix so far has both, plus I actually like the screen a lot.
wow damn, but if anything i can always sell it for more, in canada desire z sells for 400$ plus, captivate.. barley sells and its furstrating since captivate is better in aspects of screen weight and stuff and battery is better!! Inspire is the Desire HD in canada? seriously you guys didnt like that/ that looks like a sick device, anyways might go for a red torch xD sell it and add about 100$ and buy a new iphone4 front facing camera <3
I would take a captivate or an inspire for that matter any day of the week over an iphone 4. Had one of those too, along with every other iphone and was very involved in the jailbreak scene, up until I tried android. There's no way ill EVER go back to ios. This is my opinion, but ios completely sucks compared to android. You'll be bored with it in a week, even if you jailbreak. I would literally rather have a captivate on stock 2.1 than a jailbroken iphone 4
really? dont get me wrong android is nice, but i like to have that GPS option working on an iphone than not workin on a captivate + i personally dont like the touch buttons prefer the one form i9000
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About a week ago I decided that it's time to give up iPhone and try something new. I was checking the HTC Wildfire and thought that it would be an okay first Android phone, and also I can buy a brand new one when I've sold my iPhone 3GS 32GB. But then I started to look at auctions and such, and I saw that ppl actually want to trade their HTC Desires and Nexus Ones for a iPhone 3GS. And now I don't know if I should, once again, get something used or if I should for once buy something brand new. I also like that the Wildfire is a tad smaller than the iPhone, but the screen and power on the Desire seems a lot better. The Nexus One seems pretty decent, too.
I'm also afraid that the response on the screen of the Wildfire will be lower since it will be a budget phone. And in my understanding the Desire seems like a updated knock-off of the Nexus One?
So I would appreciate some help with this, since I have no experience with Android phones. Never even held one.
And if I was to get a Desire or N1, then I could get it tomorrow or so.
Thanks!
HTC Desire! The desire is not a knock off of the Nexus One, the Nexus One was handled by Google and HTC. The Desire is handled by HTC's own design team, and own interface, and its own support. IMO it loks better then the nexus one because of the trackpad.
Yeah, the Desire is looking more and more interesting. And since people really want to trade without any money in between, it doesn't seem like such a bad deal.
Plus, it has Sense UI.
The Desire is very appealing but I think I'm holding out for the HTC Vision ( a Desire with a hardware slide out keyboard) , hopefully it will have a better camera though.
I could end up waiting forever if I'm always wanting something slightly better than what is available. Tis lucky I'm still happy with my Hero, still will be for the next 3 - 6 months I reckon.
You've already made the best decision by going with Android.
A friend told me to buy HTC Legend, but I think he only likes the name. Is it any good?
Nexus 1 is freedom. And the optical pad isn't nearly as nice on the desire that I had on my xperia x1.
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Nexus 1 is freedom. And the optical pad isn't nearly as nice on the desire that I had on my xperia x1.
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So with a Nexus One I can pretty much do what I want?
EDIT: Oh, and how about the battery life? That is something I really hate with the iPhone. I'm a frequent user of my phone and the iPhone barely lasts a day (read around 16hrs).
Evo battery life blows
If you don't like bad batteries, you should stay away from the Evo. I unfortunately don't live in a 4G network, but my battery still gets drained. It's probably because I'm playing with the phone so much though. I've gotten about 10-11 hours of battery using some wi-fi, messing around with apps, sending lots of texts, taking some pics, playing back media, and streaming some stuff (but never for long periods of time, more like just showing a ton of people the different features).
I have a suspicion there's no way around a bad battery when you have a gorgeous, HUGE screen to power up.
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I have a suspicion there's no way around a bad battery when you have a gorgeous, HUGE screen to power up.
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Yeah, that is probably true. My gf's iPhone 3G lasts about 2-3 days, but she barely touches it except when she's listening to music on her 10 minute walk to school. Also she has roaming and such turned off.
EDIT: And it looks like I've found someone willing to trade their HTC Desire for my iPhone. :O Maybe even give me a few pounds since the device had some scratches on a corner.
This is a very easy debate and can be solved by 1 word only.
Froyo.
The nexus one has it, no one else does.
Also the Sense UI is very will known to slow down your phone. Personally I also do not like the look over it and prefer the stock UI of android.
like jz said, the nexus one is Google's baby. Google makes android. Therefore its safe to say the N1 will always be out front of any android device, and will likely have less bugs. I have the htc hero and while I do love it, I wish I researched first and got T-Mobile and the N1.
the evo for sprint
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This is a very easy debate and can be solved by 1 word only.
Froyo.
The nexus one has it, no one else does.
Also the Sense UI is very will known to slow down your phone. Personally I also do not like the look over it and prefer the stock UI of android.
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+1 The Nexus & Froyo is a powerful combo!
Got a Desire yesterday. Even got £20 (guess I could've gotten more) between.
And i'm happy with the device so far.
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Right now... get the Galaxy S
for android... get the EVO !
Just had a play with the Desire - wow is simply the way to describe it.
Leaves the other phones for dead and makes the current Iphone look sick imo.
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Got a Desire yesterday. Even got £20 (guess I could've gotten more) between.
And i'm happy with the device so far.
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Would be interested to hear how you get on, am thinking the same, have an Iphone....can we have a fair, honest review on your change from Iphone to Desire ?
I'm not really good at writing reviews, but I'll write something short and then you can ask questions!
I've now had the Desire for two days and I'm starting to get the hang of it. It's really different from an iPhone (no ****). I think it would have been easier/better to have a PC for this Device (or any other Android I guess) since there seem to bee some problem connecting it with the macbook. But maybe I just haven't found the best software yet.
The phone is very nice. I like the big screen and how clear it looks. The touch is working better than expected. But I think I need to recalibrate the touch since I need to click a bit higher than I would want to on buttons at the top of the screen. Otherwise it's probably as good at touch as the iPhone. Don't really feel any real difference.
I had some problem with the phone unlocking in my pocket, but I put in a lock combination to prevent that.
The battery life is about the same as the iPhone. I think at least. Hard to tell since I've been using the phone a lot these two days.
Hmm... what else? Oh, I like the keyboard better. But that's probably because of the bigger screen, thus the bigger keyboard.
And of course the Android Market doesn't have the quality of the App Store. But that's understandable.
Ask questions! It's much easier two answer than to write reviews.
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Hey guys,
As the battery on my HTC Diamond is dying, I'm in the market for a new phone, and I am down to either htc Desire or Samsung Captivate ...
Why HTC Desire?
- Love HTC phones, my last 4 phones were all HTC's
- Love Sense, hate TouchWhiz
- Slightly smaller, so it would fit a little better in jeans pocket
- Availability of development and cooked ROMs
- Captivate seems to be somewhat buggy? With self shutdown problems, GPS can't lock and alarm won't pop up / go off ... little quirks.
Why Captivate?
- S-AMOLED screen is the best screen available now
- Hummingbird > Snapdragon
- 4.0" screen is better than 3.7"
- Have concern about Desire's battery life ... vastly disappointed with Diamond's battery though I know 1400mAh > 900, but many people still complain about Desire's battery life
- Captivate seems to be better at video playback, smoother, more vivid colour
- Captivate seems to be snappier with web browsing
What do you guys think? Anything else I should know about these phones?
Like I said, the biggest appeal of the Desire is Sense ... I think it's a great UI and I'm almost temped to pick the phone just for its UI. That said, I have concern about Desire's battery life. The Captivate's S-AMOLED screen is also something you fall in love with.
Any suggestion or advices is welcome!
Motorola Atrix.
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Hey guys,
As the battery on my HTC Diamond is dying, I'm in the market for a new phone, and I am down to either htc Desire or Samsung Captivate ...
Why HTC Desire?
- Love HTC phones, my last 4 phones were all HTC's
- Love Sense, hate TouchWhiz
- Slightly smaller, so it would fit a little better in jeans pocket
- Availability of development and cooked ROMs
- Captivate seems to be somewhat buggy? With self shutdown problems, GPS can't lock and alarm won't pop up / go off ... little quirks.
Why Captivate?
- S-AMOLED screen is the best screen available now
- Hummingbird > Snapdragon
- 4.0" screen is better than 3.7"
- Have concern about Desire's battery life ... vastly disappointed with Diamond's battery though I know 1400mAh > 900, but many people still complain about Desire's battery life
- Captivate seems to be better at video playback, smoother, more vivid colour
- Captivate seems to be snappier with web browsing
What do you guys think? Anything else I should know about these phones?
Like I said, the biggest appeal of the Desire is Sense ... I think it's a great UI and I'm almost temped to pick the phone just for its UI. That said, I have concern about Desire's battery life. The Captivate's S-AMOLED screen is also something you fall in love with.
Any suggestion or advices is welcome!
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what ever you do, if you want your phone to run the latest software, have a gps working, lagless UI, do not, I REPEAT, DO NOT BUY A SAMSUNG PHONE
get a desire or wait for the motorola atrix
If you do buy the Captivate, make sure you get the newest hardware build which is 1012 I believe?
Either way it has the gps, shutdown issues fixed.
I've never heard about the alarm issue.
I don't recommend samsung smartphones. worst manufacturer when it comes to upgrading latest android updates.
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Thanks guys ... from the sound of it, despite superior hardware the Captivate is pretty buggy and there are plenty of small little quirks? (I don't call occasional self power-down as "small" quick neither)
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Thanks guys ... from the sound of it, despite superior hardware the Captivate is pretty buggy and there are plenty of small little quirks? (I don't call occasional self power-down as "small" quick neither)
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Before you make a final decision, I suggest you ask this exact same question (if you havent already) on the HTC Desire forums and see what they say. Right now, many people on the captivate forums are frustrated with the lack of official updates, gps issues, shutdown issues, etc and will point out the negative aspects of this device. People who are frustrated tend to speak "louder" than people who are happy, its just human nature.
See what responses you get from the HTC Desire forums, research what people have been saying about it, go to the store and play with both, then make a decision.
I too am frustrated with the Captivate at times and even my girlfriends HTC Aria looks better and better.
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Before you make a final decision, I suggest you ask this exact same question (if you havent already) on the HTC Desire forums and see what they say. Right now, many people on the captivate forums are frustrated with the lack of official updates, gps issues, shutdown issues, etc and will point out the negative aspects of this device. People who are frustrated tend to speak "louder" than people who are happy, its just human nature.
See what responses you get from the HTC Desire forums, research what people have been saying about it, go to the store and play with both, then make a decision.
I too am frustrated with the Captivate at times and even my girlfriends HTC Aria looks better and better.
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+1
But looks like the GPS and shutdown issues are fixed in newer captivates.
But wait for 2 months. Couple better phones are "currently" set to be released by end of first quarter.
Thanks! Yes, I do have a similar thread over at the Desire forum (nobody's posted to it yet ... either it means there's no serious issue or it's a phone people have kindda lost interest in? )
I do believe in general, htc phones are free of major problems. I'm on my 4th htc phone and I've been pretty happy with each of them ... except maybe the battery life.
It's just Galaxy S has a GREAT screen (I think it's the best screen available today, bar none) that I started considering it.
If you are planing on flashing roms I think the better hardware wins in the long run.
I agree I would check out the Moto forums sense some think the 1.2ghz Processor is worth moto putting in a locked bootloader so might be a long while till you see any roms for it if at all
I agree better hardware wins in the long run, and I do plan to flash with cooked ROMs ... that said, I do want a phone that's reasonably bug-free in the meantime. I don't know when Samsung can iron out its problems, and that also has an impact on cooked ROM's.
I think the new dual core processors are interesting, but my budget won't allow me to get one of the newest phones. I think given my budget, my best choices are the Desire and the Captivate.
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I agree better hardware wins in the long run, and I do plan to flash with cooked ROMs ... that said, I do want a phone that's reasonably bug-free in the meantime. I don't know when Samsung can iron out its problems, and that also has an impact on cooked ROM's.
I think the new dual core processors are interesting, but my budget won't allow me to get one of the newest phones. I think given my budget, my best choices are the Desire and the Captivate.
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To tell the truth the Desire HD is my next device unless HTC comes out with something before I get the cash together. When it comes to PPC I have learned that now that while hardware is great samsung just doesnt have the CS that I would like and Motorola tries everything they can to lock up the bootloader to prevent custom roms.
I am somewhat of a noob when it comes to flashing roms. I do work in IT though and love messing around with gadgets. I just want to say I love my captivate. The gps does take a while to lock, but once it locks it works fine. I have no shutdown issues. I'm running Perception 10.1 with the Firebird 2 kernel and it rocks. Videos do look crisp on this phone as well. I have no experience with the Desire, but I bought a refurb Captivate and I am very happy with it.
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Motorola Atrix.
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Not so fast, as much as i love the specs on the atrix looks like motorola will be locking the bootloader damn shame.
Just get the nexus S when it comes out. I have a captivate and have no problems with it, very fasy, great screen and best thing.... got all my iphone freinds jelous lol
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Just get the nexus S when it comes out. I have a captivate and have no problems with it, very fasy, great screen and best thing.... got all my iphone freinds jelous lol
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Isn't Nexus S already out since last November?
Love my Captivate
Well, i have the Captivate since October and I guess I have been one of the lucky ones because it works great for me. Shortly after I got the phone an update came out and fixed the GPS issue. I use it quite a lot and I have not rooted or updated the ROM a of yet. I have been waiting for Froyo as we all have but the phone does everything i want it to do and more.
I also came from the HTC world, my last phone was an HTC Fuze. I am so glad that I got this phone. Battery life is rather low but overall I just keep a charger around with me and in the car. My phone does a lot. I use it every other day as a GPS when I bike ride 5-10 miles a day. When in the car I stream music with either Pandora or Audiogalaxy. I send text and email messages regularly. Browse the Web and read my Kindle books as well as my Bible.
Just remember if you are going to use the phone a lot you are going to need to have the ability to charge it more often.
It is rather frustrating that AT&T has not released FROYO and that the battery life is not as good as some other phones but for me the pluses out way the minuses.
My brother owned an iPhone 4 an after seeing how my phone worked and looked he bought a Captivate for about $275. He was tired of the dropped calls and smaller screen and just overall functionality. He has been using the iPhone type phones for about 3 years. He has only had it for about 3 days and is loving it!!!
So whether you should buy the Captivate or not you really need to make the choice yourself. Every phone is going to have an issue one way or another. The question is can you live with those issues. Change is always hard and uncomfortable. But in the end you have to make that decision.
Someone suggested that you may want to hold off as the newer phones are on the horizon. That may not be a bad idea. In the end, remember, it is just a phone!!! Most of the heavy lifting is going to be done on your PC!!!
Good luck!!!
I'd say go captivate.
I have the i896 and the gps works perfectly, locks on in about ten seconds or less. I haven't had any problems with random shut downs or my alarm. As for the updates, as long as you are capable of rooting and installing custom roms you'll have 'updates' asap.
Regarding the screen it's absolutely no comparison; I'd say that's enough to buy the phone.
Again, there's no comparison between the hummingbird and the last gen snapdragon, especially with custom roms/kernals this phone demolishes the desire. Me and a friends have done some speed tests with my captivate with phoenix rom, and desire with a custom rom (can't remember the name, wasn't oc though) and in about every test we did the captivate was the winner.
My major complaint with this phone is the build quality, it feels kind of flimsy, especially compared to htc.
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Looks like motorola is backtracking a bit on that bootloader comment.
Is it me or there really isnt that much of a difference coming from my Cyanogen N1 to the inspire. I really cant see that much of a difference on the speed. The only thing that i can see is the bigger screen. Ohh well i do like sence ui, its nice compared to Launcher Pro...anyone else see more then i can see...im trying to justify keeping my inspire...thanks in advanced....
I'm keeping the Inspire basically for the screen size and brightness especially under bright daylight.
Don't get me wrong, the N1 is a great phone but for my old peepers, good screen size and clarity is a must. :-(
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Well the nexus is using the less battery efficient first gen snapdragon, that's one major difference.
Inspire (rooted)
Leedroid v2.0.0
Stock kernel w/r34p3rex audio fix
AOSP Lockscreen
You are comparing a CM N1 with a stock Inspire... Imagine the potential of running CM7 and overclocking the Inspire
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heres a huge difference, you can hit your capacitive buttons where they are supposed to be hit without guessing. I hated that about the 3 nexus ones I owned.
Thanks for all the quick replies, i needed some feedback to the pro of the inspire...im switching back and forth between devices...and im gonna be really confussed when my Atrix comes in on monday...decisions, decisions, decisions...
I know that the support for roms and rooting for the atrix is going to be very limited...and as for the HTC devices, skies the limit...
^^ That's the number one reason I chose the Inspire over the Atrix. The larger screen doesn't hurt either.
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I'm taking my Inspire back to the retail store this evening after work. I have played with it for a week and decided that it's not enough of an improvement over my Nexus One to justify extending my contract another two years. I have lusted for the Desire HD since it's release. Sadly, it has fallen short of my own expectations.
I have decided that I actually prefer the smaller screen of the Nexus One. Also, that the Inspire's larger screen is not coupled with a higher resolution was a bigger disappointment than I expected. The Inspire certainly benchmarks better than the N1, but when I can not perceive the difference in actual daily use it means nothing to me. I was also pretty disappointed by the audio of the Inspire; ringtones and notifications seem much softer to me.
The on thing this past week with the Inspire has given me is a renewed appreciation of my Nexus One. YMMV, of course.
I just jumped over to an Inspire 4G from a Nexus One and this is my opinion on the change.
(Note: I was using stock android 2.2 on my N1)
Pros:
+ Larger Screen
+ Better GPU (I can actually play Dungeon Defenders now)
+ Capacitive buttons actually work, and work very well
+ 3G/4G service has worked without fail. From time to time I would have full 3G bars on my N1 and nothing would send/recieve
- Battery life is half that of the N1 (Currently working on extending it in different ways)
- The phone is really big and doesn't want to fit in my pocket like my N1 did (I understand that's a sacrifice I must make for the giant screen)
- No trackball
- Sideloading apps is a pain
- I'm not a fan of HTC Sense so I've installed LauncherPro to get a more "Vanilla" experience out of the phone
That's all I got as I've only had it for roughly 5 days.
Well i have been trying to live with my inspire theses past few days...and well this is what i like...
The SCREEN for some reason is really crisp, over my N1 and over the Atrix. It might be that due to the larger screen...
The SPEED, is really quick...i mean opening apps and so fourth...
SENCE UI, im begining to like it a bit...
CAMERA, gotta love HTC's camera, that point to focus is awesome...
now my dislikes....
SIZE, it kind of feels a bit funny in hand...i guess i have to get used to it....
BATTERY, it sucks...pain and simple...but i have been getting better batt life since i installeda taks manager...
Well im picking up my ATRIX today and will compair them all and see which ones to keep...lol...will keep you all posted...
Am going to pick up a SK4G in a little bit and was wondering from our community the general conscensus on how you guys feel about it?
I'm coming from a MT4G, which I am extremely happy with, the way I have it set-up. Any one also have both and maybe a comparison? (not the obvious of course like "the screen is smaller", etc., I've been around a bit, I know a tad about a couple things =] )
I've noticed it doesnt have as crazy as a following as some of the other androids, but that doesnt mean theres no good development going on!
Let me know if you dont mind.
I came from the mt3gs and a VM optimus v afterwards. I wanted the mt4g for the specs. But I couldn't do all touch typing. I found keyboards to help. But it's just not the same as a physical qwerty.
I'm the kind of guy who likes to buy phone 2-4x a year. Maybe not the kings of the hill. But mid to high range phones. Of course, it's expensive to do so. I decided to get a phone to last a whole two-year contract. I opted for the s4g. I was due for an upgrade and even waited until launch date for this over a g2 or mt4g.
What won me was obviously the keyboard. You don't see too many 5-rows available. Spec-wise, this phone is just average. Camera dept. is really lacking. Only 3mp. But lack of led flash was the killer. Still, the keyboard was winner. The physical design is nice. I especially liked the sliding mechanism. Half-phone sliders, like the mt3gs, just feel faulty and flimsy. You could pull the halves apart or slide past the closing stop point. Not that an average person would. But I like to conduct stress tests. This mechanism is sturdy. People have dropped plenty times and claim the mechanism is just as sturdy as it was at purchase.
Also, the screen tilt really makes a difference. Using my mt3gs after this makes it really apparent. It makes using a non-tilt screen really hard to adjust back to.
The phone does come with some bugs and issues, which you can read through the forums (I have a thread over at tmo forums and adroid central entitled "bug report and other issues".) However, rooting and getting custom rom Smooth Maximus GingerClone will make the phone a new phone. The speed is fast and lag hardy present. Only minute issues still remain, yet to be resolved.
Overall, especially if you need a physical keyboard, I would suggest this phone. It is highly recommended you get Smooth Maximus for its best value. If all-touch phones didn't bother me I would go for a mt4g, g2, or wait for the mt4gs. But for you, as a backup phone this is an awesome investment. I would wait for the mt4gs, though, just for its specs and future android development.
I would say don't. You will miss the MT4G. I did the same thing Saturday night. I got rid of it last night. The phone has a nice keyboard and stuff... but the performance of the phone lacks! I mean it has a 1ghz processor and all, but its nowhere near fast as a vibrant.
I would say don't. Because you will be disappointed. If you want a keyboard get the G2 or wait for the myTouch 4G Slide.
3 days after I got the SK4G I traded it immediately and got a Nexus S instead. That phone wouldn't send or receive texts and it also wouldn't call or receive calls until I restarted. But that might have been wifi callings issue though. And if you browse the web a lot then this is not your device since the screen is so small. The only thing I liked about the phone was Cloud Text and the phenomenal keyboard. Although, as all Samsung slider keyboards do, it tends to once in a while not register a key when typing.
The quality of the SK also lacks significantly compared to the myTouch....
Just my 2 cents.
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I would say don't. You will miss the MT4G. I did the same thing Saturday night. I got rid of it last night. The phone has a nice keyboard and stuff... but the performance of the phone lacks! I mean it has a 1ghz processor and all, but its nowhere near fast as a vibrant.
I would say don't. Because you will be disappointed. If you want a keyboard get the G2 or wait for the myTouch 4G Slide.
3 days after I got the SK4G I traded it immediately and got a Nexus S instead. That phone wouldn't send or receive texts and it also wouldn't call or receive calls until I restarted. But that might have been wifi callings issue though. And if you browse the web a lot then this is not your device since the screen is so small. The only thing I liked about the phone was Cloud Text and the phenomenal keyboard. Although, as all Samsung slider keyboards do, it tends to once in a while not register a key when typing.
The quality of the SK also lacks significantly compared to the myTouch....
Just my 2 cents.
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Listen , you should do a bit research before posting in this thread imo .
It's a 1GHz of course it lack's performance , the Galaxy & SK4G have the same processor & gut's & once you install a custom kernel & ROM you will be fine , there is no Wifi Calling issue & browsing the web is fine , Cloud Text & the keyboard is amazing .
I don't wanna be bias so I'll give my honest opinion. If you are a power user, don't get this phone. Though it runs a lot more smoothly on a custom root setup, it still has tiny lag, as enoch pointed out it doesn't register all button keyboard presses. The only reason you should get the sk4g is for the keyboard alone. If not then a more powerful phone may satisfy your needs.
If you are a power user, don't get this phone. If you're getting a phone just cause, you can consider this. I love the phone and haven't put it down since. But if this is a main phone for two years on contract, you can get something better.
Lol, I don't mean to contradict my earlier post. I'm not as bias with this one.
i would recommend the sk4g. coming from all-touch smartphones like the nexus one and hd2 running android and the hd7, i am happy with the sidekick 4g. i generally avoided android phones with qwerty keyboards because most are sliders and i hate phones with too much movement.
the droid pro was my dream form factor for an android phone but since i am happy with tmo there was no way i would switch to verizon just for that phone. plus the resolution on the droid pros smaller screen was a turnoff.
the slider on the sidekick 4g is pretty sturdy. the keyboard is awesome. i use my phone a lot for business and the sidekick 4g was the last smartphone on my list. but after comparing to other qwerty androids out there the skg4 seemed to be one of the better.
the camera is only 3m and no led flash. but the quality of the pictures is pretty good for being 3m. depending on what rom i had on my hd2, the sk4g's cam took pics just as good.
the speakerphone is pretty good. better than any htc ive had.(g1, mytouch 3g, hd2, hd7, nexus one).
even though its mostly made of plastic, its pretty durable and not as 'cheap' feeling as some claim it to be. i actually think its one of the more better built phones ive had(besides the hd2).
as for performance, even though it has the same 1GHz hummingbird processor as the galaxy s, tab, etc... it doesnt feel as smooth. most of the lag can be noticed while unlocking, navigating through any custom ui, and switching back to home screen from some apps. but once you are inside of an app it feels just as smooth and snappy as other 1GHz smartphones.
if i were you i'd probably wait until the mytouch 4g slide comes out.. its not too long. im not really digging the mytouch4g/slide's front looks and not liking how the touchscreen is fully exposed on all sides as opposed to the sk4g's screen/slider is protected on two sides.
I know my phones. I know it technically has the same guts as any Galaxy S phone. But I can tell you any Galaxy S phone feels so much more faster than this phone does. I mean I was shocked that the phone didn't perform like a 1ghz device should! I did install Bali with voodoo enabled and that didn't make much difference. While on the vibrant the difference was almost night and day.
And yes I pointed out that Cloud Text and the keyboard are Amazing!
But the phone is just sluggish.
If he is a power user, he needs to look elsewhere because this phone won't suffice your need of power. I mean I found my self restarting the phone every few hours while on my myTouch 4G I never had to restart.
Another thing I should also point out is that battery life isn't the greatest. The phone wasn't lasting me even 8 hours a day (I'm more of a power user). While the myTouch would last me 22+ hours on the Virtuous Unity ROM or 18+ hours on stock. The phone with a keyboard that lasted the longest that I ever owned (android) was the G2 I was getting a solid 36+ hours of use. It was Stunning!!
My suggestion would be wait a few weeks and you can get the myTouch 4G Slide.
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Listen , you should do a bit research before posting in this thread imo .
It's a 1GHz of course it lack's performance , the Galaxy & SK4G have the same processor & gut's & once you install a custom kernel & ROM you will be fine , there is no Wifi Calling issue & browsing the web is fine , Cloud Text & the keyboard is amazing .
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I'm trading my sidekick for a nexus one next week. Unless I change my mind.
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I would recommend this phone if you are a hardcore qwerty user like myself. I came from the MT4G and I got this phone through craigslist and I have been satisfied. Is it a high end phone? Maybe if this came out last summer but it does not stop this from being a good phone. Even though the development is not as great as other phones ( I do appreciate the support!) There is not much wrong with this phone. 3 MP is weak for a camera nowadays but it does its job. Is the phone sluggish at times? Sometimes but with the gingerclone rom and bali kernal it has decreased. With more roms in kernals in the future it should change indeed. As for the battery I let the battery die and let it charge completely and no lie got 24+ hours of battery life which consisted of playing Chrono Trigger on my phone (keyboard controller ftw) but as everyone else has been saying if you want value and a 5 row keyboard then sk4g, if you wanna throw some more money and wanna be that suave guy with a fancy phone then please get the mt4gs and tell me how it is ;-)
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Not a good trade. I wouldn't do it.
Try to see if you can get a Nexus S instead.
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I'm trading my sidekick for a nexus one next week. Unless I change my mind.
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most people who are all hardcore with buying the latest and greatest may disagree. My point of contention is, when your a guy like me who has to keep up with multiple females at any given moment there is no better phone. Simply put, *****es love texting. The only competition we have as far as touch screen texting is the Droid boomerang. I forget the model designation but the thing is ****ing retarded huge. Next up we have the blackberry, but the closed source OS was the major boner killer for me.
With all that said, if you **** *****es, like lots of *****es. There is no better phone. All the other ************s struggle to keep up. I don't know how, but all the females I know get at least 45 WPM out of those ****ing dinosaur Nokia bricks. I can't do that ****, but I do know that with a SK4G I can get 45 WPM+ with nearly 100% accuracy.
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most people who are all hardcore with buying the latest and greatest may disagree. My point of contention is, when your a guy like me who has to keep up with multiple females at any given moment there is no better phone. Simply put, *****es love texting. The only competition we have as far as touch screen texting is the Droid boomerang. I forget the model designation but the thing is ****ing retarded huge. Next up we have the blackberry, but the closed source OS was the major boner killer for me.
With all that said, if you **** *****es, like lots of *****es. There is no better phone. All the other ************s struggle to keep up. I don't know how, but all the females I know get at least 45 WPM out of those ****ing dinosaur Nokia bricks. I can't do that ****, but I do know that with a SK4G I can get 45 WPM+ with nearly 100% accuracy.
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Lol... you say some dumb **** bro...
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Just wait for the 4g slide
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Long story short, I lost my Samsung Vibrant (my previous upgrade 5 months ago) or it was stolen and T-mobile offered me a Free phone if I extend our lines for 2 years. (couldn't get the deal in the future or I would have waited for the Galaxy 2 probably) Which overall wasn't a big deal as we have been with them for 5 years and everything works out well. (plus we can still downgrade/upgrade our plan)
Anyway,
I chose the Sensation and had a few questions.
Will I like it? It seems very promising and I loved my G1.
More importantly, can I root it and throw on the roms I see floating around? Some people In reviews said the boot loader is locked? But not on newer versions?
the phone is GREAT. rooting and s-off is very easy. go into android developement and there will be the thread for it. the roms are all mostly sense roms. cm7 is out but still in beta but its pretty stable. so is MIUI, a iphoneish not really rom. only things wrong with miui is wifi calling and bluetooth. i think so with cm7 too.
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the phone is GREAT. rooting and s-off is very easy. go into android developement and there will be the thread for it. the roms are all mostly sense roms. cm7 is out but still in beta but its pretty stable. so is MIUI, a iphoneish not really rom. only things wrong with miui is wifi calling and bluetooth. i think so with cm7 too.
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Have you noticed any signal issues? I've read a few but the majority of the people didn't have it.
I'm excited. HTC is awesome build quality. Should be plenty even with the slower dual core compared to the galaxy.
Only thing I was really worried about was screen but it seems this one is pretty good.
Also, is the Zagg shield worth it? I really want a decent screen protector but hate trying to put them on.
about the screen,
maybe it's not as beautiful as I-PHONE, but I think the quality is very good already.
It's a good phone, I like it very much
so~~~many things here, you can discover to modify you phone, and improve it performance.
Don;t worry, just check it out ~XD
I think you'll love it. I used to have an iPhone4 and love this phone. The build quality is real good. The speaker seems a little on the quiet side. I'd recommend rooting it ASAP and installing CM7. Yes, it's in the alpha phase right now, but it's real fast and CM is so nice imho of course.
So yeah, the Sensation has a great screen, a good feel, and is pretty quick. Much faster than a stock SGSII if you install a modded ROM and overclock it ;-)
I will for sure root it and put a rom on it. Not so sure I will overclock it.
Can you comment on call quality and speed? My vibrant only had 3g so looking forward to 4g.
I'm almost thinking of downgrading my data plan too. The last 4 months of use on my Vibrant I did maybe 350MB's total out of 5GB.
Any comments on a Zagg screen? that or is there something easy to put on it off Amazon? ( i have 2 day shipping)
Any clue when t-mobile will get the Galaxy s2? That's the only other phone I would have wanted but, I had to go with one today as I couldn't get the deal again.
im not really a big fan of screen protectors so i really cant recomend one. i do know that the zagg sheild is a good screen protector. i have used one in the past and i liked how it feels. its really solid and thick so you will get the feeling that nothin will scratch it unlike any of the other screen protectors out there. tmobile sells one as well. but i had one on my hd2 but i didnt like it cause it has a matte finnish to prevent smudges and it just felt awkward whenever i move my thumb around. you can always look around on ebay for a really cheap one. but like i said i really dont use them. i buy them and i wind up removin them a few weeks later. idk y its just the way i am. and i never had a problem with scracthes. with the exception of the hd2 but i had that phone for over a year before i got that scratch and you really cant see it plus i replaced it with the sensation a week later.
as far as the galaxy s ii i believe it comes out sometime next month. most likely at the end. anyone can correct me if im wrong here.
i for one love htc phones just becuase of build quality and sense ui. but some people dont like sense so its really up to the user on that. just go to the store and play around with the sensation and the galaxy s ( i know its not the s ii but its close to it.) and see for yourself. i think youll love the htc sensation.
edit: get the zagg sheild. i think its the best bang for your buck
I'm much in the same boat guys, going to be coming from an iPhone 4.
I've had a Nexus S and an Atrix, but didn't like the Atrix due to the screen and motoblur (at the time development was slow), and the Nexus S build quality was appalling.
I just want good battery life and great build quality, good screen and fast.
Will I like it do you guys reckon ?
Wingzer said:
I'm much in the same boat guys, going to be coming from an iPhone 4.
I've had a Nexus S and an Atrix, but didn't like the Atrix due to the screen and motoblur (at the time development was slow), and the Nexus S build quality was appalling.
I just want good battery life and great build quality, good screen and fast.
Will I like it do you guys reckon ?
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Yup, go for it
Tbh I can't tell much different between the quality of this screen and the iphone 4. Except that ours is bigger of course.
I love this phone. Now that I am sense free with cyanogenmod its easily the fastest phone I've ever seen.
The only real ***** is the usual one with htc phones. Htc always put **** external speaker in their phones. Its still useable but compared to some of the other smart phones out there it could be better.
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dr.m0x said:
Tbh I can't tell much different between the quality of this screen and the iphone 4. Except that ours is bigger of course.
I love this phone. Now that I am sense free with cyanogenmod its easily the fastest phone I've ever seen.
The only real ***** is the usual one with htc phones. Htc always put **** external speaker in their phones. Its still useable but compared to some of the other smart phones out there it could be better.
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+1
When you hear that DONG on blackberry, there is that real feel to it, on Sensation it's more like donk
Fitztang said:
about the screen,
maybe it's not as beautiful as I-PHONE, but I think the quality is very good already.
It's a good phone, I like it very much
so~~~many things here, you can discover to modify you phone, and improve it performance.
Don;t worry, just check it out ~XD
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I came from an Iphone and I think I actually prefer the sensations screen... im not sure why!