I am going out on a limb here and share my deepest feelings with all of you.
I LOVE my g2x!
There, I said it. I feel a little vulnerable right now... may need a hug.
There is so much anti g2x here and it makes me sad. This is a great phone. Nay, a great big beast of s phone. It has it foibles(bet you don't hear that often) but they will be worked out. I had a troubled phone for a while... reboots, battery heat up, etc... didn't return it, but I kept fiddling with it, removed some apps, messed with settings, trolled the forums and I haven't had a reboot in a week! Runs as smooth as aloe vera lotion now.
I think that people are jumping ship too early, and for the Sensation?!? Really?? That phone is also having issues with reboots and stuff not working... PLUS it is slower, has an iffy screen and runs Sense!
So if you do trade down for that other phone... just go, and stop telling us about it.
Good luck and we'll see you when you come back...
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+1 for foibles
Its a gorgeous piece of hardware, with a really solid cameras, and I'm loving having the speakers in another place than laid flat on the back.
Not being satisfied with the dev support, which is kind of more a privilege than most people here realize, made me realize that having a phone that works more often than not is worth running on Stock(with root and a few choice mods).
Having been around since 1.5 dropped, I thought about what I needed in custom roms then vs what I need now. The G1 needed severe performance boosts to operate like the current crop does on its worst days, apps2sd and keeping an ext partition for caching on was important. I got my power control widget and navigation in 1.6 (I was a big fan of SuperD roms) and I was ecstatic.
Fast forward and I get damn near most of that right out the box. do i need the miscelleaneous features of cm7, like notificationbar power controls? Nope, I can go back to living like I did with my eclair Nexus One(and then with CM6) or my G1.
So comparing the current offerings to just stock, I dont feel like im at a total loss. It's just the way this phones lifespan panned out, and really you cant win them all.
And I am definitely not impressed with the Sensation and Sense3.0. My boss broke the volume key on the store demo the day he opened the box. Dropped it once and the rocker snapped out in the worst way. weird design choices all over that phone.
I really think the dev support will happen when GB drops. Then we can find the new things we didn't know we couldn't live without.
God, remember 1.5? Seems like so long ago... I remember way back when jesusfreke was showing us the what was possible, and when cyan got his cease and desist letter from google... my G1 will always have a special place in my heart...
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I love using the G2X and I'm glad I get to keep her. She will be my hacking/gaming phone. Both the G2X and the Sensation have there own problems like you said. I was just lucky enough to get two bug free devices. As said in my review, I think the G2X has a smoother UI and is very responsive. That being said, the. Sensation doesn't even come close until you disable all of those silly animations on Sense. Some games run better on the G2X and some run better on the Sensation. Homerun Hartford 3D for example runs smoother and looks better on the Sensation but dungeon defenders runs smoother on the G2X. Everyone just needs to start making there own decissions and stop making posts like "Bellow Sensation. Bye G2X". I picked the Sensation as my daily driver due to the larger display without being bigger that the G2X. The colors are sharper and appear to pop more on the Sensation but the blacks on the G2X a great. When both devices are sitting right next to each other its unbelievable how muck crisper and clearer the text on the Sensation is. I also use the camera a lot and the Sensation takes much better photos and HD video. Both devices are great but I would say to someone who puts gaming at the top of there smart phone list, get the G2X. If your priority is emailing, web browsing, RSS, ebooks and taking pictures then get the Sensation.
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I love using the G2X and I'm glad I get to keep her. She will be my hacking/gaming phone. Both the G2X and the Sensation have there own problems like you said. I was just lucky enough to get two bug free devices. As said in my review, I think the G2X has a smoother UI and is very responsive. That being said, the. Sensation doesn't even come close until you disable all of those silly animations on Sense. Some games run better on the G2X and some run better on the Sensation. Homerun Hartford 3D for example runs smoother and looks better on the Sensation but dungeon defenders runs smoother on the G2X. Everyone just needs to start making there own decissions and stop making posts like "Bellow Sensation. Bye G2X". I picked the Sensation as my daily driver due to the larger display without being bigger that the G2X. The colors are sharper and appear to pop more on the Sensation but the blacks on the G2X a great. When both devices are sitting right next to each other its unbelievable how muck crisper and clearer the text on the Sensation is. I also use the camera a lot and the Sensation takes much better photos and HD video. Both devices are great but I would say to someone who puts gaming at the top of there smart phone list, get the G2X. If your priority is emailing, web browsing, RSS, ebooks and taking pictures then get the Sensation.
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My priorities are the second block but im still keeping the g2x that sensation just feels like a toy cant be havin that imma business man.
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i'm still a fresh new owner of my G2x (got it yesterday). but i've already thrown on 3 custom roms and have decided to stick w/the mcr GB leak (2.3.3) since its more vanilla than CM7. CM7 is just WAY to much extras i don't care for; i wish they had a kitchen sink option like paul's MCR roms do. i love being able to pick and choose what items and tweaks.
anywho, i've been an android owner since the N1 dropped and must say that it almost seems like its more people tinkering with an OS and parts they shouldn't be or don't understand. permission changes on a system file can cause your phone to do some crazy things, i've done it a few times myself (get in a boot loop by renaming a system sound or font, etc)
the G2x's hardware specs made me drop the full off contract price on it. i'm just hoping we see the GB roms mature even more, hopefully once the official GB hits; we'll still have some devs w/one that will update their roms.
sure would love to see a Honeycomb port. this thing has the specs.
yea i cant say enough about my g2x, i really have no problems other then minimal screen bleed and it dont bother me cuz i cant see it in everyday use!....i have no random reboots or sod, i absolutely love the power of this phone, **** the other day i was playing with my wifes mytouch 4g and remember that thing was fast and held its own, i remember when i had one i thought damn this is fast....the other day when i was done playing with it i gave it back to her, and thought to myself damn hun your phone is a turd compared to mine lol....my point being the mytouch 4g was a very fast phone and this phone just digs in its ass! i love everything about it i will definitely say it is the best phone i ever had and i aint going nowhere.....
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yea i cant say enough about my g2x, i really have no problems other then minimal screen bleed and it dont bother me cuz i cant see it in everyday use!....i have no random reboots or sod, i absolutely love the power of this phone, **** the other day i was playing with my wifes mytouch 4g and remember that thing was fast and held its own, i remember when i had one i thought damn this is fast....the other day when i was done playing with it i gave it back to her, and thought to myself damn hun your phone is a turd compared to mine lol....my point being the mytouch 4g was a very fast phone and this phone just digs in its ass! i love everything about it i will definitely say it is the best phone i ever had and i aint going nowhere.....
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cyan got his cease and desist letter from google...
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Another satisfied G2X owner right here. Got mine off some guy on Craigslist before I'd read about all the issues people were having. I think I only kept it stock for maybe 1 day before rooting it and flashing roms on it. I've been using it for over a month now and I haven't once regretted buying it.
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+1 for foibles
Its a gorgeous piece of hardware, with a really solid cameras, and I'm loving having the speakers in another place than laid flat on the back.
Not being satisfied with the dev support, which is kind of more a privilege than most people here realize, made me realize that having a phone that works more often than not is worth running on Stock(with root and a few choice mods)
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Have you tried the Ultimate G2X rom?
It has been my daily driver for a couple of weeks now and I have had absolutely no issues with it. It's based on Froyo so all of the hardware works as it should (no wonky battery issues, HDMI works, GPS works, etc). It has a very nice dark theme to it (I never liked the light colored stock Froyo), and is very snappy and responsive.
It's a very nice rom indeed. Very fast. Very stable. And everything works.
FWIW
Very satisfied G2x owner here. All around the best cellphone i have ever owned.
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Have you tried the Ultimate G2X rom?
It has been my daily driver for a couple of weeks now and I have had absolutely no issues with it. It's based on Froyo so all of the hardware works as it should (no wonky battery issues, HDMI works, GPS works, etc). It has a very nice dark theme to it (I never liked the light colored stock Froyo), and is very snappy and responsive.
It's a very nice rom indeed. Very fast. Very stable. And everything works.
FWIW
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+1 for the Ultimate Rom. I've been using it since the day it was released with zero issues. But...Faux's Rom is starting to look VERY interesting...
I've been a pretty vocal complainer about this phone. I've gotten four. But my complaints have mostly been about the lack of real support and communication. It sucks that LG and Tmo put us all in this position.
I'm getting the Sensation tomorrow. I got the upgrade price. But I'm only considering it a bridge phone until the bugs get worked out of the G2X. When I thought I only had the option of one phone, I HAD to leave for the Sensation. In my case I initially chose the G2X knowing about and comparing it to the Sensation. Sensy is indeed a great phone, but side by side, we all know the G2X is just.....well, better!
But my cell phone is my primary communication device, I don't have a wired home phone. I've had reception issues and it has been too buggy to use the basic features. Not having a choice I was forced to move to the Sensy.
But being in this position, with both phones, changes the equasion. I get the luxury of waiting for the update. I've now decided to request a fifth one after all.....just because the screen bleed IS definatively worse on this fourth one. But if they refuse, I still feel like the screen bleed is a non issue in everyday use. But it appsolutely screams at me when I turn the phone on....
I truly believe that all the other issues will be fixed with the updates(s).
I've spent the last two days putting the phone back where is was before my reset last weekend. I've had no reboots all week, but my data has been giving me fits. I've missed not playing with it this week, so couldn't resist putting it all back. Supposed to get Sensy tommorrow.....have such mixed feelings. This sucks....got two beautiful phones and so conflicted and angst-ridden. I guess I can think of worse positions to be in LOL.
Happy Fathers day to my fellow fathers. And all you mothers for putting up with us!
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I've been a pretty vocal complainer about this phone. I've gotten four. But my complaints have mostly been about the lack of real support and communication. It sucks that LG and Tmo put us all in this position.
I'm getting the Sensation tomorrow. I got the upgrade price. But I'm only considering it a bridge phone until the bugs get worked out of the G2X. When I thought I only had the option of one phone, I HAD to leave for the Sensation. In my case I initially chose the G2X knowing about and comparing it to the Sensation. Sensy is indeed a great phone, but side by side, we all know the G2X is just.....well, better!
But my cell phone is my primary communication device, I don't have a wired home phone. I've had reception issues and it has been too buggy to use the basic features. Not having a choice I was forced to move to the Sensy.
But being in this position, with both phones, changes the equasion. I get the luxury of waiting for the update. I've now decided to request a fifth one after all.....just because the screen bleed IS definatively worse on this fourth one. But if they refuse, I still feel like the screen bleed is a non issue in everyday use. But it appsolutely screams at me when I turn the phone on....
I truly believe that all the other issues will be fixed with the updates(s).
I've spent the last two days putting the phone back where is was before my reset last weekend. I've had no reboots all week, but my data has been giving me fits. I've missed not playing with it this week, so couldn't resist putting it all back. Supposed to get Sensy tommorrow.....have such mixed feelings. This sucks....got two beautiful phones and so conflicted and angst-ridden. I guess I can think of worse positions to be in LOL.
Happy Fathers day to my fellow fathers. And all you mothers for putting up with us!
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There is no doubt in my mind that the G2X is snappier and more responsive than the Sensation within the UI but in my mind there is plenty of other things that go into making a phone better. Yes, I care about speed and power but when the ONLY difference in speed I see is in the UI, it's not a big deal in my opinion. The G2X's display does have better blacks but the Sensation has better colors, sharper text, bigger display and a brighter screen. When both phones are in direct sunlight, it's not even a close race. The Sensation wins hands down.
Applications run just as fast, if not faster on the Sensation. One of the only games I play religiously is HomeRun Battle 3D and it is in fact smoother plus looks a lot better on the Sensation.
When you finally get to use the Sensation you will realize that the only thing the G2X does better is a speedy UI. Everything from the camera to the contacts app is inferior.
In the end, I wish I liked the G2X better since I paid retail price for it and even though mine barely had any bugs, the Sensation is still the all around better phone.
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There is no doubt in my mind that the G2X is snappier and more responsive than the Sensation within the UI but in my mind there is plenty of other things that go into making a phone better. Yes, I care about speed and power but when the ONLY difference in speed I see is in the UI, it's not a big deal in my opinion. The G2X's display does have better blacks but the Sensation has better colors, sharper text, bigger display and a brighter screen. When both phones are in direct sunlight, it's not even a close race. The Sensation wins hands down.
Applications run just as fast, if not faster on the Sensation. One of the only games I play religiously is HomeRun Battle 3D and it is in fact smoother plus looks a lot better on the Sensation.
When you finally get to use the Sensation you will realize that the only thing the G2X does better is a speedy UI. Everything from the camera to the contacts app is inferior.
In the end, I wish I liked the G2X better since I paid retail price for it and even though mine barely had any bugs, the Sensation is still the all around better phone.
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I can't speak to the differences in the screen because I've only used the G2X in everyday situations. I do know that I have no trouble reading my screen in sunlight.
As for the different UI and different camera, etc that you mentioned, I think you're overlooking the fantastic hardware that makes up the G2X. I'm not knocking the Sensation because it may be a better solution for some. But I am very very satisfied with the G2X. Many of the roms that are out now have ironed most of the issues and made this phone extremely reliable. I don't have any issues with mine. And I can flash any camera, homescreen app, etc I want and customize to my hearts content.
My point is its a great piece of hardware that has some buggy software from the factory. Iron out the bugs and this thing flies.
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I have had my phone for about a month now, hated it at first but have slowly gotten it to the point of stable and fast.
Running CM7 builds for two weeks now (since the bugs have slowly gotten worked out). No reboots or issues, data is fast, battery life is good and everything is just "snappy".
I have given up on LG support for this phone, I won't be buying another LG phone again. Rushing this product to market and abandoning it shows that they hold the consumer in contempt. Hardware and build quality this phone is amazing, software support is terrible.
If LG was smart they would release their source for the phone and allow the true experts (rom cookers) to have their way with perfecting it, LG's software team isn't worth the paper their over sized paychecks are printed on.
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I can't speak to the differences in the screen because I've only used the G2X in everyday situations. I do know that I have no trouble reading my screen in sunlight.
As for the different UI and different camera, etc that you mentioned, I think you're overlooking the fantastic hardware that makes up the G2X. I'm not knocking the Sensation because it may be a better solution for some. But I am very very satisfied with the G2X. Many of the roms that are out now have ironed most of the issues and made this phone extremely reliable. I don't have any issues with mine. And I can flash any camera, homescreen app, etc I want and customize to my hearts content.
My point is its a great piece of hardware that has some buggy software from the factory. Iron out the bugs and this thing flies.
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Flashing all the camera apps in the world won't change the actually camera. When I said camera, I meant it as in hardware, not software. If you want to talk software than I can tell you, I think the G2X camera app is better than the Sensations. By the way. My G2X really didn't have any bugs at all except for some minor screen bleed. I thought it was a pretty reliable phone if you ask me. I know I'm keeping mine for a little bit so I have something to hack until HTC unlocks the Sensations bootloader. Lastly, I didn't really have any problems reading my G2X in sunlight either but it doesn't mean something else can't look better.
BobbyDukes707 said:
I really think the dev support will happen when GB drops. Then we can find the new things we didn't know we couldn't live without.
God, remember 1.5? Seems like so long ago... I remember way back when jesusfreke was showing us the what was possible, and when cyan got his cease and desist letter from google... my G1 will always have a special place in my heart...
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Ah, yeah. I remember fiddling with my G1, when JesusFreake and Haykuro were the kings. Those were the days..
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This is for those on the fence about whether to get this phone or wait for something else, because I was one of those people up until earlier today.
The screen is GORGEOUS! The qHD resolution is heaven-sent.. and I don't even go to church! You will appreciate the extra real estate as soon as you visit any webpage and definitely if you read on the Kindle app. After seeing how amazing this qHD display has proven in only a day's use, I could never see myself going back to a smaller resolution screen.
Videos play flawlessly and the detail is more crystal clear than your eye can see. I really don't know how to better describe it. I am still literally in awe.
The phone's build quality is simply superb. No creaking anywhere.. Anywhere! ..and it doesn't feel as big as you might think. It's about the same size as my MT4G, yet it has a screen half an inch bigger!
The external speaker finally reminds me of the one on the SGS. It's really good. I was pleasantly surprised.
Only place I'm not impressed is with the camera. I just don't see much of a difference, if any at all, between the Sensation's 8mp camera quality and those from the MT4G's 5mp camera :-!
Overall, I am very satisfied. (Coming from a MT4G which was a great phone too).. I am surprised at the people returning it because they felt underwhelmed. What more do you expect from a phone? I say get this phone -- it is the best on the market right now.
Edit- I forgot to mention the wifi-n capability. I get a full wifi signal now where I used to get a weak signal with the MT4G. Whatever it is, it's a welcome addition.
Also pinch to zoom on webpages is smooooooooth
Couldn't agree with you more. I just exchanged my G2X for this today.
It's a fantastic display and for me is much much better for messaging and typing in general as well. The G2X was a beast, but there were so many people with screen bleed, including myself. I thought I could live with it, but it really did wash out the top part of the screen way way too much. I thought about living with that display for 2 years and the decision was easy.....qHD super LCD FTW
Sense is sexy in many ways....laggy in others.
LED notification is great to have again.
But again...you're absolutely right....the display is just gorgeous!
The dust under the screen that some people have is beyond bizzare for a high end device maker. Hope I don't get any. So far, no dust, no dead pixels.
Oh, one more huge thing for me was the fact that this does 1080p @ 30fps as opposed to 24fps on the G2X.
Ohhhh....Ive also found that the Sensation resizes text better than I've ever seen a touchscreen device do with pinch to zoom. Don't know if its Sense or Gingerbread or what, buts its a wonderful web experience on this here beauty.
Love it!
Yea, the text its soo crisp it's crazy! Are you planning on getting a screen protector for yours? It's soo beautiful I would cry if the screen was scathed in any way lol.. I do trust the Gorilla Glass as it held up perfectly when I had the N1 and SGS though.
Also, have you seen any trailers on the HTC Watch app? O... M... G... The quality seems like 1080p video on a LED tv =O I'm still shocked at how clear this display is!
hm.... not really being a$$ or an apple fanboy, but your impression on the qHD screen really makes me wonder about ur opinions towards iphone4's retina resolution.
qHD is definitely nice, but heaven-sent? come on
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hm.... not really being a$$ or an apple fanboy, but your impression on the qHD screen really makes me wonder about ur opinions towards iphone4's retina resolution.
qHD is definitely nice, but heaven-sent? come on
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I returned the sensation and kept g2x. I also thought the g2x screen is nicer :/
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I returned the sensation and kept g2x. I also thought the g2x screen is nicer :/
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Man this is a tough choice, both are really good phones. Each have their pros and cons. I do think the screen on the sensation is a little bit nicer but not enough that it makes that much of a difference. I do like the fact that with qhd screen you can see more text. Decisions, decisions...
I picked up the HTC sensation and I own the G2X as well and love both! Only problem is locked bootloader
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So far so good wit the sensation. No randoom reboots, phone hangs up when press end to end phone calls, no light bleeding issues. These are a few of the issues of the g2x right out of the box. Comparing to the Sensation which is just superb straight out of the box. Good riddance to the g2x which is a close 2nd to the hd2 as the worst phone I have ever owned. These are my opinions. By the way i went through 6 g2x phones and they all had the same problems. Bottom line the phone (sensation) WORKS!!!!
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So far so good wit the sensation. No randoom reboots, phone hangs up when press end to end phone calls, no light bleeding issues. These are a few of the issues of the g2x right out of the box. Comparing to the Sensation which is just superb straight out of the box. Good riddance to the g2x which is a close 2nd to the hd2 as the worst phone I have ever owned. These are my opinions. By the way i went through 6 g2x phones and they all had the same problems. Bottom line the phone (sensation) WORKS!!!!
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funny how peoples experiences are different... The sensation is awesome, but other than minimal screen bleed the g2x has been awesome, and I had 3 total, all awesome... Again sensation is awesome too, just weird how different our experiences were...
Coming from a Samsung Vibrant, I appreciate the added resolution, awesome build quality, and screen size, but I miss the awesomeness that was the AMOLED screen.
For me it comes down to reliability. The Sensation is way more stable than the G2X. And let's be honest, the update that they are saying is on the way..they are hoping it fixes the problems it has. Let's be real, I'm sure they didn't plan to have the problems they have now, just like they don't plan to have anymore problems after the update. There's no guarantee that the update will fix what ails the G2X. That alone is enough reason for me to stick with the Sensation. I've had the Sensation now for about 8 days now and I have yet to have my phone freeze or crash...same can't be said about the G2X. That makes the decision easy for me.
What really erks me is that we spend, like in my case full price for a device that should be ready or close to ready out of the box to be a functional stable phone. The one thing that g2x owners have in common is that we all returned several g2x's back because they were defective. The bottom line is reliability, which the g2x does not have and thats why I have a sensation.
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hm.... not really being a$$ or an apple fanboy, but your impression on the qHD screen really makes me wonder about ur opinions towards iphone4's retina resolution.
qHD is definitely nice, but heaven-sent? come on
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Yea the retina display is nice.. but it's way too small for my liking.. and yes heaven-sent lol.. It is just soo much easier/ faster to navigate pages and I find myself scrolling a lot less. That was one of the issues I had with things like reading the NYTimes site on previous phones -- too much scrolling.
It may not be an issue for others, but I do a lot of reading and writing papers for school on my phone, on the train, for example. Seeing so much more on the screen without having to scroll definitely makes it easier for me
Btw, I was at a TMobile store minutes after they opened, on the G2X launch date, but I wasn't sold on it mainly because of the hype of the Sensation and the GSII made me want to wait for those instead. So the phone felt underwhelming and I wasn't really blown away by anything it had over my then MT4G, to justify spending $500. I even went back twice, but resisted buying it. I'm so glad I waited for this instead.
What really sold me here over the G2X is the slimness and style of this phone. The Sensation and G2X are about the same size! Yet, the screen on here is about 1/3" bigger and with the better resolution too. I hated all of that that empty space at the bottom of the G2X and how the buttons seem so huge. And after seeing comparison reviews and videos, I held out for this one.
But if you guys prefer the G2X better, I'm not hating. Enjoy it. I just honestly don't see any areas where it has an advantage over this phone.
Couldn't Agree More
Just my two cents (I finally created an XDA profile just to get a post out there about my Sensation experience so far!):
The people on this forum really dampened my expectations on his phone. All the talk about benchmarks, comparisons to the GS2, etc. are quite discouraging to folks on here... Almost to the point where I considered changing carriers or waiting another N months for the next set of phones to come out.
However... I am so happy that I didn't go that route. This may be because I'm coming from a myTouch 3G / HTC Magic that was almost inoperable at the time of my Sensation purchase, but I am extremely impressed with this phone. You really gotta go mess around with one if you're on the fence - the form factor is sooo sleek, the screen beautiful, and the UI seems snappy as hell to me. Being a developer, and concerned with performance, I do hope it's rooted soon, but I'm enjoying Sense 3.0 much more than I expected to.
Cheers!
Matt
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Just my two cents (I finally created an XDA profile just to get a post out there about my Sensation experience so far!):
The people on this forum really dampened my expectations on his phone. All the talk about benchmarks, comparisons to the GS2, etc. are quite discouraging to folks on here... Almost to the point where I considered changing carriers or waiting another N months for the next set of phones to come out.
However... I am so happy that I didn't go that route. This may be because I'm coming from a myTouch 3G / HTC Magic that was almost inoperable at the time of my Sensation purchase, but I am extremely impressed with this phone. You really gotta go mess around with one if you're on the fence - the form factor is sooo sleek, the screen beautiful, and the UI seems snappy as hell to me. Being a developer, and concerned with performance, I do hope it's rooted soon, but I'm enjoying Sense 3.0 much more than I expected to.
Cheers!
Matt
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I can understand what you mean. There are a lot of anal retentive people on this site who have nothing else going on so they nitpick any phone they purchase. I don't understand the logic of a person that looks for problems. For example, I saw a thread on here a few days ago from a person who's thread said something to the effect of, "hey I just got a Sensation..what problems should I look for?" Now when I saw that I'm thinking, why the hell would you be looking for problems? Just use the phone, and if there's a problem you will notice it. I saw another thread yesterday, where the poster was saying that he was concerned about the lens inside of the front-facing not being perfectly centered inside the hole....It's always something with these guys. Try not to let them damper your enthusiasm for any phone because they will if you allow them to. Some of these people on here would find fault if Jesus released a phone...
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I picked up the HTC sensation and I own the G2X as well and love both! Only problem is locked bootloader
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Just so you know the sensation is getting updated (along with all newer HTC devices) to get unlocked boot loaders!
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Just so you know the sensation is getting updated (along with all newer HTC devices) to get unlocked boot loaders!
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Do you have a link to HTC specifically mentioning the Sensation will get an update like this?
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Mattmanx said:
Just my two cents (I finally created an XDA profile just to get a post out there about my Sensation experience so far!):
The people on this forum really dampened my expectations on his phone. All the talk about benchmarks, comparisons to the GS2, etc. are quite discouraging to folks on here... Almost to the point where I considered changing carriers or waiting another N months for the next set of phones to come out.
However... I am so happy that I didn't go that route. This may be because I'm coming from a myTouch 3G / HTC Magic that was almost inoperable at the time of my Sensation purchase, but I am extremely impressed with this phone. You really gotta go mess around with one if you're on the fence - the form factor is sooo sleek, the screen beautiful, and the UI seems snappy as hell to me. Being a developer, and concerned with performance, I do hope it's rooted soon, but I'm enjoying Sense 3.0 much more than I expected to.
Cheers!
Matt
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+10. The nitpicking in this forum is ridiculous. You might assume from reading countless threads that the handset is faulty. Not even close. The G2X complaints were valid, but not with the Sensation. Pick it up and you'll immediately understand why they called it the Sensation. It really is that nice. The build, screen, and all around feel is absolutely stellar. Really couldn't understand the disconnect between these threads and the actual device. Benchmark junkies please help keep these forums clean and move on to a new device.
For those always worried about benchmarks (I don't care about benchmarks), I heard that the benchmark apps aren't updated to read the 2nd core yet (or something like that).
I know another one of these threads but im super torn between the two. I've read through the forums and done my research on both even though the sensation is new and the locked boot loader we don't know its true potential yet
I know the issues with the g2x ie. screen bleed, battery drain, overheating and random freezes. The sensation with the bad angle and high contrast washed out screen, the death grip and some minor touchscreen issues.
I guess what it comes down to is i want a fast phone and the scores show that the g2x is faster but reliability is a key issue with the g2x maybe GB will fix it (hope so) but don't know. With sense vs stock vanilla do you think that’s the reason why the HTC sensation has a low quad score compared to g2x? I know people say it’s the screen size but if they both were running stock do you still think the 1.2ghz snap vs 1ghz tegra would still be in favor of the g2x?
I was leaning towards the g2x just the fact that it has a unlocked boot loader which is definitely a big plus for me because i definitely want to mod the phone. Now that HTC has said they will unlock the boot loader which phone would have the most developers behind it?
Sigh, so torn between the two the lag between apps is a pet peeve of mine and i believe there are currently more developers backing up the tegra nvidia chip so it kind of leans me towards the g2x but the sensation does have a neat screen and really is untapped potential I think.
Let me know what you guys think.. what phone I should go for!!?!
THANKS
P.S. if GB fixed the random reboots and battery issue would u still give it up for the sensation? Seems most people are giving up the g2x for the reliability of the sensation
I'm in the same boat as you. I think the safe thing to do, and what I'm thinking about doing, is waiting for an update for the g2x. If nothing comes out soon, I'll end up getting a nexus or even a mytouch 4g.
Oh, if only people weren't complaining about the g2x, it would be a no-brainer.
I believe that the tegra 2 chipset has new architecture compared to the snapdragon. Also, it seems that game developers are really supporting tegra 2 fully because tegra has their own games store. If gaming on your phone is something that appeals to you, definitely go for the G2x, you will not be disappointed. I recently played Riptide GP, a tegra optimized game and I was blown away to say the least.
I don't really know much about the sensation, but if you do end up buying the G2x, I would suggest buying a used one in excellent condition from ebay, rather than a new one because you never know if it will have problems. I personally bought from gazelle store (30 day return period) and like the description said, it was in excellent condition, not a single scratch and no issues such as battery drain or rebooting.
If you like taking pictures a lot though, I heard that the sensation's "instant capture" is pretty awesome to take quick photos, not that the G2x's camera is slow, just not instant
Just personal taste...
I had the G2X.
As soon as I laid my eyes on the 4.3 qhd display, I was sold.
The amazing thing is that it truly does not feel or look like a 4.3 display. The 16:9 aspect ratio + the thin bevels around the screen make it "seem" smaller.
Truly a fantastic...crisp display. I knew it's what I wanted for the next 2 years of my contract +/-. I don't have the money to buy a new device every 6 months
Also keep in mind the Sensation records audio in STEREO. The G2X and GS2 only record audio in MONO. Something to consider that most people might not think about.
Either way in real world use...it's had to wrong with either one. Just make sure ya get a G2X with no screen bleed and a Sensation with no dust under the sceen...
My G2X had a good battery and didn't reboot a single time in the 2 months I used it. I gave it up for the Sensation because in my OPINION, the Sensation is the all around better phone. If you want a speedy UI, go with the G2X. Some things are faster on the Sensation while others are faster on the G2X. The only game I play (HomeRun Battle 3D) is smoother and looks better on the Sensation.
You have to make up your own mind. My advice would be to use both devices for a couple hours a piece and then make your decision.
Vertiginouz said:
I believe that the tegra 2 chipset has new architecture compared to the snapdragon. Also, it seems that game developers are really supporting tegra 2 fully because tegra has their own games store. If gaming on your phone is something that appeals to you, definitely go for the G2x, you will not be disappointed. I recently played Riptide GP, a tegra optimized game and I was blown away to say the least.
I don't really know much about the sensation, but if you do end up buying the G2x, I would suggest buying a used one in excellent condition from ebay, rather than a new one because you never know if it will have problems. I personally bought from gazelle store (30 day return period) and like the description said, it was in excellent condition, not a single scratch and no issues such as battery drain or rebooting.
If you like taking pictures a lot though, I heard that the sensation's "instant capture" is pretty awesome to take quick photos, not that the G2x's camera is slow, just not instant
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QFT about the gaming aspect. I think the Tegra store has some cool games, especially Riptide GP like you mentioned. To the OP. If gaming is important to you then go with the G2X like this guy said.
That being said. The only game I play which is Home Run Battle 3D runs smoother and looks better on the Sensation. I guess it has to do with the game getting along better with the Snapdragon processor over the Tegra processor but I'm not to sure.
Neither phone is truly gonna reach its potential until ice cream sandwich
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Neither phone is truly gonna reach its potential until ice cream sandwich
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This. As of now you may as well get a Nexus S as that is the only phone guaranteed to get Ice Cream Sandwich.
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I know another one of these threads but im super torn between the two. I've read through the forums and done my research on both even though the sensation is new and the locked boot loader we don't know its true potential yet
I know the issues with the g2x ie. screen bleed, battery drain, overheating and random freezes. The sensation with the bad angle and high contrast washed out screen, the death grip and some minor touchscreen issues.
I guess what it comes down to is i want a fast phone and the scores show that the g2x is faster but reliability is a key issue with the g2x maybe GB will fix it (hope so) but don't know. With sense vs stock vanilla do you think that’s the reason why the HTC sensation has a low quad score compared to g2x? I know people say it’s the screen size but if they both were running stock do you still think the 1.2ghz snap vs 1ghz tegra would still be in favor of the g2x?
I was leaning towards the g2x just the fact that it has a unlocked boot loader which is definitely a big plus for me because i definitely want to mod the phone. Now that HTC has said they will unlock the boot loader which phone would have the most developers behind it?
Sigh, so torn between the two the lag between apps is a pet peeve of mine and i believe there are currently more developers backing up the tegra nvidia chip so it kind of leans me towards the g2x but the sensation does have a neat screen and really is untapped potential I think.
Let me know what you guys think.. what phone I should go for!!?!
THANKS
P.S. if GB fixed the random reboots and battery issue would u still give it up for the sensation? Seems most people are giving up the g2x for the reliability of the sensation
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I had mentioned in an earlier thread that my son purchased a Sensation on Thursday afternoon. He came to visit today for Fathers Day, so we had the opportunity to have them side by side.
Both phones are pretty. The Sensation is wider and heavier. The Sense overlay is nice to look at and the unlock ring is cute. The Sense worked fairly well after I got used to it. I've always liked my stuff plain, and my son likes to customize to the max.
Performance wise, holding them side by side, the G2x was faster in some things...The Sensation in others. Browsing the web....it was a toss up.
The sound, the Sensation sounded better. Not only did I prefer the HTC ringtones, they just sounded better.
Intangibles....things like practical settings...were almost the same for both devices. G2x had some settings the Sensation did not. Nothing critical though.
Signal strength....side by side, the G2x carried a better 'visual' signal. where is hit 4g, he only had 2g. Switched on WiFi, the Sensation aquired the signal faster, but the G2x appeared to have more bars of strength. Speedtest was relatively the same.
Battery....this is the big one. He walked into the house at 100%. In less than 30 minutes he was looking at 81%. He did NOT have GPS on. But did have LIve Wallpaper. The rest was default actions. During this same period..same amount of browsing, same amount texts, my G2x lost about 5%.
Both phones are nice. Both feel good, both look good. The Sensation is a bit wider and a bit more bulky....but his hands are bigger than mine. In my mind the edge is slightly to the G2x. In his mind its the Sensation. I think the devices are that close. If he wanted to trade with me, neither of us would be disappointed.
I think this battle comes down to how those intangibles work for you. How it balances in your hand, how you view movies or games, or websites. Its that close....so the choice is personal.. Like someone said earlier....get the phone in your hands...they out. Your choice will become evident.
I agree with everything the above poster said. It really comes down to personal preference between the two.
@alodar1...Your son might have a defective battery because even if I am playing HomeRun Battle 3D for 30 minutes straight online against someone in match up mode, my battery doesn't even drain 10%. I thought my battery on my G2X was pretty good but without a doubt, my Sensation lasts a couple hours longer. I would get a easy 12 hours from my G2X on moderate use but I get over 15 hours on my Sensation with moderate use. There's actually quite a few people who own both devices and say they get longer life from the Sensation and here's why. The Sensations CPU can throttle back to one core but the G2X's CPU cannot so it is constantly running 2 cores. That's just wasted power and poor design. Maybe an update can fix it.
Ok... I just sold my G2x for the sensation, and I'm not looking back.
The g2x was nice, then 1 week ago I started getting 3 day reboots , I'm sick of waiting for fixes and gb. Yes the sensation has It's issues but is a better device...
I sold my G2x for 340 just to sell it quick. I then used my upgrade to get the sensation. Spent 268 on sensation, then get a 50$ rebate.. so I made it with like 120$ and a sensation...
Just can't wait for fixes, reboots made me want to leave, everyone going to the sensation made up my mind.... Htc updates ...
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Ok... I just sold my G2x for the sensation, and I'm not looking back.
The g2x was nice, then 1 week ago I started getting 3 day reboots , I'm sick of waiting for fixes and gb. Yes the sensation has It's issues but is a better device...
I sold my G2x for 340 just to sell it quick. I then used my upgrade to get the sensation. Spent 268 on sensation, then get a 50$ rebate.. so I made it with like 120$ and a sensation...
Just can't wait for fixes, reboots made me want to leave, everyone going to the sensation made up my mind.... Htc updates ...
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Bad decision bubba.. I'll letcha know when everyone jumps off the bridge u can go jump too lol
Yea I think so too.
CM7 just fixed the battery driver, enabled the dual radio (doubled cellular speeds), and has kernel-based LED notifications enabled in #54.
This beast just got beastier!
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Ok... I just sold my G2x for the sensation, and I'm not looking back.
The g2x was nice, then 1 week ago I started getting 3 day reboots , I'm sick of waiting for fixes and gb. Yes the sensation has It's issues but is a better device...
I sold my G2x for 340 just to sell it quick. I then used my upgrade to get the sensation. Spent 268 on sensation, then get a 50$ rebate.. so I made it with like 120$ and a sensation...
Just can't wait for fixes, reboots made me want to leave, everyone going to the sensation made up my mind.... Htc updates ...
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bro what happened?? didnt u start the never again lg thread? thought u were fighting for the g2x not leaving it, lol idk whatever makes u happy, so do u like?
Don't do sensation... the internal memory is so small it can never reach it's full potential. With everything on an SD card, you have no hard wired storage. Its like your operating drive in a computer being already full, it slows everything down. I think ill ask for a replacement when Gb comes out if my phone doesn't fully fix itself. I'm afraid of HTC, always seems like a hard case with poor tech inside.
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I have zero loyalty to any brand...just came from a BlackBerry 3 weeks ago....which I hated for the last 2 years. It worked as a phone and that was good enough.
I had the G2X for 13 days before I exchanged it for a Sensation.
I'm sooooo happy I made the switch.
I could not live with the screen bleed at the top corners of the G2X.
Then I started looking at the specs that matter to me most.....
The biggest one being the (imo) gorgeous qHD display and far better resolution. There really is no comparison.....the Sensations display is beautiful and I knew its the one I wanted to look at everyday for the next 2 years of my contract. Also it doesn't feel any bigger than the G2X....with its 16:9 aspect ratio and super thin bevels around the display...it doesn't feel or look too big....its just perfect.
What seems to be a sticking point for some people is the internal memory. Personally, I could care less about internal storage as I will never have the need to put hundreds and hundreds of apps on it. I would think that It is a very small % of users who would ever have more than a gig of apps on their device. Right now I have about 30 apps and still have exactly 1 gig of internal mem.
The other really big thing for me wanting to switch was when I discovered that the G2X only records in MONO. The Sensation records audio in STEREO. If having an HD camcorder is at all a selling point for you...you really should consider that.
Also, I guess I'm one of the people that like eye candy and Sense 3.0 is gorgeous and ultra quick enough for me.
That's my humble opinion
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bro what happened?? didnt u start the never again lg thread? thought u were fighting for the g2x not leaving it, lol idk whatever makes u happy, so do u like?
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I know man. lol I was gonna fight for it, but then I though about the vibrant, and how I just dont want to any more, and not to mention I started to get reboots after a month of perfection and didnt do anything different, any rom.
With the sensation there is no need to fight. It just works.
So, yes the sensation is better, My first one was weird, and I had to return in, had this weird piece of something, like dust, dead pixel line or something. lol I think the rep didnt like me and game me the defective one purposefully, so I went today and exchanged it..
speed, just as fast as g2x, just turn off animations and dump the widgets. The shortcuts in the drop down are nice, the extra stuff on sense is really nice also.
screen, face on the sensation is awesome, slight angle, it gets washed out. I give screen to g2x.
battery: I had good battery on my g2x but the sensation does a lil better.
build: about a tie, but the design of how the back cover is, is awesome IMO. Like taking half the phone apart. lol looks sweet. So Im giving hardware to HTC.
GPS: sensation is fast as ****, g2x would need like 1 min to lock, sensation like 4 seconds. My tracks were dead on. Almost like gps got worse on the g2x.
call quality is a tie: they both sound great.
I dont know what else, that dont sound much, but its just a all around nicer device, I dont want to wait it out for LG to come up with something, when the sensation has it already.
Have a good g2x no issues besides not being able to use cyanogen mod because data doesn't work .
Using gb update zip, very smooth and no issues as of yet. Phone is nice but battery is a killer for me, barley lasting 6 hours , of moderate to heavy use. Tempted to sell and wait for the nexus to come out or an iphone if on tmobile. Have offer of $200 plus a mytouch 4g for the g2x.
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Take a gander over at the Sensation thread....way more concerns than the G2x.
1. Death Grip.
2. Assembly issues.
3. Screen not being sealed, dust getting in, joints not connected.
4. Switching automatically into Silent mode.
5. Two screen manufacturers one with very bad viewing angles SHARP....AUO seemly the better one....jury still out.
6. Speaker and microphone problems.
7. Touchscreen problems.
I am pretty sure some threads will be started about how TMOnews is saying the Sensation is being pulled. Some earnest posters will soon be saying they want to do a class action for their 1 week old phone, instead of just returning it outright.
Basically everything is always greener on the phone that is yet to be released. At least with LG you actually will get a screen made by LG. HTC is kinda like the Vizio of cell phones.
Remember: Doing a full system rebuild reset (clearing out everything and reset option) will cool down your phone, and extend battery length. Something about recognizing the battery size properly is thought to be reason. Its the first thing to do on a new phone. Accessed through the menus
Come on Tom. I am happy with my G2X but I am sure that the Sensation will not be pulled from stores for a month without any word from HTC and T-mobile . I'm also sure that folks that have them don't have to go through 3 of them to get a working one or flash a custom rom to keep it from rebooting. AGAIN . I love my G2X but at least the sensation shipped with gingerbread .
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Take a gander over at the Sensation thread....way more concerns than the G2x.
1. Death Grip.
2. Assembly issues.
3. Screen not being sealed, dust getting in, joints not connected.
4. Switching automatically into Silent mode.
5. Two screen manufacturers one with very bad viewing angles SHARP....AUO seemly the better one....jury still out.
6. Speaker and microphone problems.
7. Touchscreen problems.
I am pretty sure some threads will be started about how TMOnews is saying the Sensation is being pulled. Some earnest posters will soon be saying they want to do a class action for their 1 week old phone, instead of just returning it outright.
Basically everything is always greener on the phone that is yet to be released. At least with LG you actually will get a screen made by LG. HTC is kinda like the Vizio of cell phones.
Remember: Doing a full system rebuild reset (clearing out everything and reset option) will cool down your phone, and extend battery length. Something about recognizing the battery size properly is thought to be reason. Its the first thing to do on a new phone. Accessed through the menus
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Lets not be jealous of what other people have.
I had the G2x from day one till a week ago. Had so many issues, with bleeding, with phone rebooting, with EVERYTHING. My brother and my girlfriend also had the same issues with the G2x. I got the sensation, and I have had 0 issues so far.
Yes, the only thing is death grip, but guess what.. the G2x has it too. Every phone has it. But when do you get it ? Only when you put the phone in the palm of your hand, and cover it completely.
If someone holds the phone like that - they are probably not supposed to have a phone in the first time.
So please dont go talking **** about the Sensation, just by looking at what the noobs are saying about it.
Like every other phone - there are a few issues with it, as some people get dust and whatnot, but guess what - they get a replacement and it works.
I got 3 G2x replacements - all had the same issues as the previous. Constant rebooting or freezing, horrible HORRIBLE backlight bleeding.. NO THANK YOU! I use my phone for business and can not afford using a phone that will randomly just freeze and not work at all.
Again, I have had 0 issues with my sensation, other than the fact that it has no root so far. But we are getting there. And not just me - I got 3 phones, they all work perfectly fine.
Go ahead, get yourself a sensation, feel it, see it, play with it - and then say that the G2x is better.
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Take a gander over at the Sensation thread....way more concerns than the G2x.
1. Death Grip.
2. Assembly issues.
3. Screen not being sealed, dust getting in, joints not connected.
4. Switching automatically into Silent mode.
5. Two screen manufacturers one with very bad viewing angles SHARP....AUO seemly the better one....jury still out.
6. Speaker and microphone problems.
7. Touchscreen problems.
I am pretty sure some threads will be started about how TMOnews is saying the Sensation is being pulled. Some earnest posters will soon be saying they want to do a class action for their 1 week old phone, instead of just returning it outright.
Basically everything is always greener on the phone that is yet to be released. At least with LG you actually will get a screen made by LG. HTC is kinda like the Vizio of cell phones.
Remember: Doing a full system rebuild reset (clearing out everything and reset option) will cool down your phone, and extend battery length. Something about recognizing the battery size properly is thought to be reason. Its the first thing to do on a new phone. Accessed through the menus
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I have both the phones with me. Below are the things i found in my usage.
1) I tried to play some games on sensation and I just couldn't. The games i am talking about are NANO PANDA, JENGA, KONAS CRATE, PEGGLE. I could load them and play for only 10 mins max. It was really really slow. But G2X was treating these games like piece of cake. So fast and easy to load. On top of that when i try to play these kind of games and then go back home on sensation, the sense would do a soft reset itself because of memory issue or whatever it may be.
2) Whenever i restart my phone, i loose the icons from my home of the apps which are on SD card. Time to Time i also have to delete widgets from home screen and add them back on, otherwise i get jagged lines on the widgets.
3) on the same wifi network g2x was able to pull 10mbps down, 3 mbps up. At the same time sensation was able to pull 4mbps down and 2.5mbps up. STRANGE.
4) Stability wise still sensation is a little bit better than G2X. But when you use sensation for 1 week straight and do not touch G2X. And after that week when you play with G2X, my GODDDD, you will feel the speed. G2X is so so so much faster and fluid than sensation.
NOTE TO PPL WHO ARE CONSIDERING SENSATION:-
its a good phone, but its nowhere near g2x imo. wait for the g2x patch, i am sure that would resolve all the software related issues. do not rush and get sensation. trust me, you are just getting one hell of a laggy but beautiful phone.
Well the G2x is pretty sound hardware wise... it just shipped with crappy software. At least it was unlocked and able to allow the Devs here to fix them.
Hardware problems are different. The Sensations touchscreen issues could be resolved via drivers... or they could just have a crappy digitizer like we had on the Nexus One (fake multitouch). These are things that make the phone kinda crappy because it could turn into a real issue that is unresolvable.
I don't know but lets be real, every phone I've had I run custom roms. If a custom rom is a good fix to solve pretty much all the problems of a new phone... wouldn't it make sense to go that route instead of just enduring the issues?
The Sensation is currently locked down so no devs are able to try and fix those issues. Your forced to stick it out until either HTC sends out an updated rom (months) or they unlock the bootloader (maybe never, but probably eventually).
Those are some crappy odds. I'd much rather take the much more powerful G2x, load a custom CM7 rom, and have the best of both worlds. I have a newer version of Android on my G2x then the Sensation has (2.3.4 vs 2.3.3), it is super fast, solid, and more powerful. Why would anyone not want that?
Just my two cents. I ended up with the sensation. I still own my g2x. I feel so far the sensation is a better phone. I can't play my purchased tegra games which sucks. But I have a 50" tv with ps3 and 360 for all that nonsense. I need my phone to work and not be a pain in the as! I had a love hate relation with my g2x. Seems the bottom line is that the phone was a great idea but ended up a failure! Am very happy (so far) with the sensation, does what it is suppose to do. Haven't seen any dust or had any issues. Fingers crossed! I will be selling my g2x.
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Lets not be jealous of what other people have.
I had the G2x from day one till a week ago. Had so many issues, with bleeding, with phone rebooting, with EVERYTHING. My brother and my girlfriend also had the same issues with the G2x. I got the sensation, and I have had 0 issues so far.
Yes, the only thing is death grip, but guess what.. the G2x has it too. Every phone has it. But when do you get it ? Only when you put the phone in the palm of your hand, and cover it completely.
If someone holds the phone like that - they are probably not supposed to have a phone in the first time.
So please dont go talking **** about the Sensation, just by looking at what the noobs are saying about it.
Like every other phone - there are a few issues with it, as some people get dust and whatnot, but guess what - they get a replacement and it works.
I got 3 G2x replacements - all had the same issues as the previous. Constant rebooting or freezing, horrible HORRIBLE backlight bleeding.. NO THANK YOU! I use my phone for business and can not afford using a phone that will randomly just freeze and not work at all.
Again, I have had 0 issues with my sensation, other than the fact that it has no root so far. But we are getting there. And not just me - I got 3 phones, they all work perfectly fine.
Go ahead, get yourself a sensation, feel it, see it, play with it - and then say that the G2x is better.
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My sentiments exactly. I've had no issues with my sensation at all, and when compared to the issues I had with the G2X it isn't close. I'm at 17 days now with the Sensation and I have not had a single crash or reboot. Deathgrip is a non-issue and there is no screen bleed. While I do like G2X I feel like my Sensation is much more stable and reliable than it is. That may possibly change with a G2X update, but for the time being at least the grass is definitely greener for me. OP I agree with t0ny0, your posts definitely sounds like you've got a bit of jealousy going there.
yo if you have a sensation why you still in this forum ?!
90teggy said:
Just my two cents. I ended up with the sensation. I still own my g2x. I feel so far the sensation is a better phone. I can't play my purchased tegra games which sucks. But I have a 50" tv with ps3 and 360 for all that nonsense. I need my phone to work and not be a pain in the as! I had a love hate relation with my g2x. Seems the bottom line is that the phone was a great idea but ended up a failure! Am very happy (so far) with the sensation, does what it is suppose to do. Haven't seen any dust or had any issues. Fingers crossed! I will be selling my g2x.
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I have to disagree about the g2x being a failure.
360? Red Rings? WHAT?!
mysterioustko said:
My sentiments exactly. I've had no issues with my sensation at all, and when compared to the issues I had with the G2X it isn't close. I'm at 17 days now with the Sensation and I have not had a single crash or reboot. Deathgrip is a non-issue and there is no screen bleed. While I do like G2X I feel like my Sensation is much more stable and reliable than it is. That may possibly change with a G2X update, but for the time being at least the grass is definitely greener for me. OP I agree with t0ny0, your posts definitely sounds like you've got a bit of jealousy going there.
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Jealously? Not really, though I would surely like that Samsung Inspire with its 4.5 super Amoled Plus screen. If Jealously is not the name of an Android phone yet....it surely will be soon.
I was trying to be "ironical" with the posting....actually I would say from the threads it looks to be about the same amount of issues....saying greater was an overstep. The grass is greener on the phone yet to be released is the basic point.
I do think that the G2x shipped earlier than it should have....it got to be the first dual on Android by that....it should have shipped with 2.3 by all rights. I sorta think the 2.3 release will be the first release.
I get throughput to my phone in good areas of 9000 mbps...I am wanting better reception in bad areas, but being new to TM and without the ability to use other phones, I am not sure if I am better or worse....I see some comments on reception on the Sensation being better....but not enough to be sure either way.
I like the Sensation as a phone, as with the G2x...too switch phones at this point is gonna be hard, unless I throw a tantrum. I had the ability inside of 30 to get the Sensation, so I was closely following it. I think they both have advantages....but what is keeping with the G2x is raw horsepower, which should be strong enough to run all the future Androids in the next two years or more.
I also like the real H-IPS screen, its near as good color wise as the Super Amoled+, much better than the Sensation on color and off angle viewing, and better for small text than the Amoled+, though its getting very close now with the +. The GF has Ip4, which is the best screen still, with zero bleed fwiw too.
SUPER-LCD is just a marketing term, its not any technology besides for being the most current and best TN technology for LCDs. Its TN still. Samsungs new PLS type is different from PVA though.
Besides the irony posting for the sensation awaiting the Sensation....I fully understand and can not fault either anyone who prefers one to the other. They are peer level phones, with physical advantages over each other. It a taste thing.....I would prefer the samsung Inspire 4.5 super amoled + over either....as a pure piece of hardware, nothing is close to the Iphone 4, glass on both sides, metal all the way around, lovely little brick....all wasted and nullified as soon as its put into an Otter. Most form factor stuff besides screen size is moot once its put in a case.
but I digress...I must be jealous, but I don't have enough commitment to be jealous of anything in particular, for long.
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Jealously? Not really, though I would surely like that Samsung Inspire with its 4.5 super Amoled Plus screen. If Jealously is not the name of an Android phone yet....it surely will be soon.
I was trying to be "ironical" with the posting....actually I would say from the threads it looks to be about the same amount of issues....saying greater was an overstep. The grass is greener on the phone yet to be released is the basic point.
I do think that the G2x shipped earlier than it should have....it got to be the first dual on Android by that....it should have shipped with 2.3 by all rights. I sorta think the 2.3 release will be the first release.
I get throughput to my phone in good areas of 9000 mbps...I am wanting better reception in bad areas, but being new to TM and without the ability to use other phones, I am not sure if I am better or worse....I see some comments on reception on the Sensation being better....but not enough to be sure either way.
I like the Sensation as a phone, as with the G2x...too switch phones at this point is gonna be hard, unless I throw a tantrum. I had the ability inside of 30 to get the Sensation, so I was closely following it. I think they both have advantages....but what is keeping with the G2x is raw horsepower, which should be strong enough to run all the future Androids in the next two years or more.
I also like the real H-IPS screen, its near as good color wise as the Super Amoled+, much better than the Sensation on color and off angle viewing, and better for small text than the Amoled+, though its getting very close now with the +. The GF has Ip4, which is the best screen still, with zero bleed fwiw too.
SUPER-LCD is just a marketing term, its not any technology besides for being the most current and best TN technology for LCDs. Its TN still. Samsungs new PLS type is different from PVA though.
Besides the irony posting for the sensation awaiting the Sensation....I fully understand and can not fault either anyone who prefers one to the other. They are peer level phones, with physical advantages over each other. It a taste thing.....I would prefer the samsung Inspire 4.5 super amoled + over either....as a pure piece of hardware, nothing is close to the Iphone 4, glass on both sides, metal all the way around, lovely little brick....all wasted and nullified as soon as its put into an Otter. Most form factor stuff besides screen size is moot once its put in a case.
but I digress...I must be jealous, but I don't have enough commitment to be jealous of anything in particular, for long.
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Oh yeah...you're jealous no doubt !!! I had a long reply written up and my brand new kitten stepped on my keyboard. Suffice to say, as owner of both, its a personal choice with both having merits. Both have issues too, as do all phones. Live and let die...buy what makes you happy...Stay thirsty my friend...so whatever they say on the TV.
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...Stay thirsty my friend...
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I usually don't drink.. but when i do, i drink dos equis.
These things amaze me. Many people just to prove their point or for whatever reason say that they use their phone for business or for taking videos and pictures of their child's first time doing something. who in their right mind would use g2x or sensation or any other smart phone for so important stuff like these? I don't use anything except landline for my work and for taking pictures or videos I don't use anything but my digital slr camera and handy cam. And I guess that's true for most people who are in their right mind. If you want to work, you need a landline and a computer. If you want to take pictures and videos there are devices specially for that. Smartphones are just to help you so that you can stay connected and don't miss on certain things not for hardcore work.
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These things amaze me. Many people just to prove their point or for whatever reason say that they use their phone for business or for taking videos and pictures of their child's first time doing something. who in their right mind would use g2x or sensation or any other smart phone for so important stuff like these? I don't use anything except landline for my work and for taking pictures or videos I don't use anything but my digital slr camera and handy cam. And I guess that's true for most people who are in their right mind. If you want to work, you need a landline and a computer. If you want to take pictures and videos there are devices specially for that. Smartphones are just to help you so that you can stay connected and don't miss on certain things not for hardcore work.
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You, sir or ma'am, are still living in another era.
jalshah05 said:
These things amaze me. Many people just to prove their point or for whatever reason say that they use their phone for business or for taking videos and pictures of their child's first time doing something. who in their right mind would use g2x or sensation or any other smart phone for so important stuff like these? I don't use anything except landline for my work and for taking pictures or videos I don't use anything but my digital slr camera and handy cam. And I guess that's true for most people who are in their right mind. If you want to work, you need a landline and a computer. If you want to take pictures and videos there are devices specially for that. Smartphones are just to help you so that you can stay connected and don't miss on certain things not for hardcore work.
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phburks said:
You, sir or ma'am, are still living in another era.
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Just in case you have a flux capacitor handy, try jumping back into the 21st Century. I'll see if I can get Doc Brown to help you out
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Just in case you have a flux capacitor handy, try jumping back into the 21st Century. I'll see if I can get Doc Brown to help you out
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Lol thank God I always keep one handy.
jeffreynew23 said:
I love my G2X but at least the sensation shipped with gingerbread .
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think of it this way, no matter what a phone was shipped with, it will have flaws and SW updates will be required...so no matter what we are updating the device
I had a G2X....switched to a Sensation. Happy I did...but of course, to each their own.
I wanted the 4.3 qHD 16:9 display + 1080p @ 30fps in stereo.
Simple choice for me.
Silly how people say mine is best, mine is best. As soon as you get your next device the G2X will suck? Right?
Personal preference.
Both devices have their respective issues. Both devices outshine the other in different areas.
Come back to reality OP
No sir I am sure I am living in the current era and that's the reason I have house full of gadgets and also sensation and g2x. But I also like photography and I also like to work without thinking about dying battery or network outage. Have you ever seen any professional photographer taking pictures with his cell phone? Or have you seen any company putting out smart phone out on your desk? I wonder why. If I want to look at the photographs of my wedding or my honeymoon or my baby taking his first step or even outing with my friends I want them to be crispy clear. And no phone camera has ever taken pictures even close to even any entry level slr camera.
Phones and these gadgets are my hobby for which my work pays. But with these gadgets nobody can do any real world 8-10 hours job.
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First off this isn't another comparison to the G2x thread, but more of a Thank God I switched for the sensation thread.
The sensation Is gorgeous. At first it looked funny to me, but then, it started to look and feel like my old N1 (the back anyways). I love the design. The shell that completely cases the screen is awesome. The way their back is half the phone is incredible. Only thing id change is id put speakers on the bottom, I loved that about the G2x.
Speed is awesome. Yes its not as wham bamm boom boom like the g2x fast, but it is consistent in speed and its plenty fast enough considering the amount of recources the phone is using,( I.E. Sense and bloat). Like someone else mentioned also, its almost as if the apps on the sensation load faster, respond faster, etc. That could be due to the extra .2 ghz i guess.
Camera completely destroys the G2x. If camera was your strong point on the g2x, well the sensation has just as good of app for the camera and takes a pic a hell of a lot faster than the g2x. Although I think the G2x FFC is light years ahead of the grainy Sensation FFC. G2x actually took sweet FFC pics.
The Video camera is great. I love how if you get out of focus at any point, just touch the screen and let it refocus. the g2x wouldn't refocus worth a turd.
GPS is also better than the G2x. At first g2x was good, but then it just started taking longer to get locks.. Pissed me off. The sensation so far is a steady 5 seconds.. My tracks was also very nice. SO happy
Battery. Honestly Ive never really seen a difference in any of my phones.lol From the Htc touch, tp1, tp2, n1, vibrant, hd2 etc. They all seem to have the same general heavy use time (constant) but so far IMO its about the same is my G2x, but I was one with great battery on the g2x so that's saying the sensation has it good.
screen is awesome as well. WE all know there are 2 types and honestly I could really care which I get. Its not the selling point to me in the phone. Anyways its nice. The 4.3 really don't feel that big from the way they cut down on surrounding material beyond the screen. They fit it very nice into a little for factor and IMO the design of the back is how they achieved this.
This is my first sense device. Ive never been a fan cause it was to bloated and just wow. Sense 3.0 seems nice. Theres a lot to customize, but things are very organized and laid out nicely. Im still kinda learning the ropes, but all around I think its a darn stinking good UI, YETTTTT is a little hard on the battery.
Damn Damn Damn, Did I say Damn? I wish we had root. I need Screen shots, remove bloat, and download some of those cool apps that I didn't know even took root, until I re downloaded them and it denied me access. lol Who knew root was so important. lol. Although Im getting along without it.
Reception is good. My g2x struggled here and my sensation does much better. So 2 thumbs up for that shiat stew.
General bugs i've noticed are Just a ****ass piece of dust under the screen like 5, but honestly there so small that most people wouldn't (I read the smallest line at doctors that they dont even use on the test, just did if for ****s and giggles) see it and trying to get it replaced would be dumb since they probably wouldn't see it and Ive got all together a flawless device. I also never see them, period. Unless I'm in the sun and got all the other dust off (which is hard cause it instantly comes back, and even then, if you screen has em on em anyways, who cares about a few underneath unless it grows) and searching I cant see em. There is the Wifi bug, but I never experience it. you literally need to block the back, but it wont just do it anytime, its only when signal is weak for me. Almost like they got the DB vs Bars wrong, (if wifi uses even DB). Other than that. I have nothing wrong with mine.
The g2x man. Started out ok. GO to market place while on wifi, and it kicks you off wifi although still shows the wifi bars. Basically it just switched to data until you toggled back. I hated how the browser barely scrolled, to go down a long page you had to finger fuk the **** out of the screen. The camera was not the best for a 8 mp, and the video was pretty choppy. Then theres the screen bleed that at first didn't bug me, then it just was noticeable. My phone was solid though other than those issues, no reboots, until about 5 weeks later. Then it would happen probably every 2 days.
All in all if anyone is on the fence. Don't be. I was, I wanted to think my G2x was the **** and a software update would make it all better, But why wait? That still may not even fix the issue anyways. If your looking for the better phone by far all around? Then the sensation it is. EASY
Its actually nice to have a nice reliable phone. SENSATION FTMFWWWWWWWWWWWW
SORRY FOR MISSPELLINGS, PUNCTUATION, ETC. Im no college grad
I know a couple ass holes over in the G2X forum who won't appreciate this. As you know, I have both devices as well and prefer the Sensation over the G2X. There are a couple guys over in the G2X forum that will defend that thing until it blows up. They don't want to admit something else is better than the phone there stuck with for a couple years.
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I know a couple ass holes over in the G2X forum who won't appreciate this. As you know, I have both devices as well and prefer the Sensation over the G2X. There are a couple guys over in the G2X forum that will defend that thing until it blows up. They don't want to admit something else is better than the phone there stuck with for a couple years.
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Yes, I do know you have both. Actually your Posts helped me decide to get a sensation. Thanks again. Thank god im rid that G2x. It was nice at first. Just got crappy after a bit. Heated up a lot etc. This is great man. Yes, they will defend it to the end. lmfaoooo hell tegra can run on other devices not using Chainfire 3d so meh. No reason to keep a G2x.
Id love to link this in the g2x forum...lol make em mad.
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Yes, I do know you have both. Actually your Posts helped me decide to get a sensation. Thanks again. Thank god im rid that G2x. It was nice at first. Just got crappy after a bit. Heated up a lot etc. This is great man. Yes, they will defend it to the end. lmfaoooo hell tegra can run on other devices not using Chainfire 3d so meh. No reason to keep a G2x.
Id love to link this in the g2x forum...lol make em mad.
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I would link it there just to show them that there are many people who switched to the Sensation who thinks it's the all around better device.
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I would link it there just to show them that there are many people who switched to the Sensation who thinks it's the all around better device.
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hehe should cause a stir... Here we go. lol
And as JRwin knows I also have the g2x. I havent been able to do a side by side comparison yet because I traded one of my G2x's for the sensation and the other one LG had for repair. It's on the fed ex truck today. I do notice though that the g2x was a lot faster but to be fair it's running vanilla android and it was overclocked. I kind of do miss my G2x though and am looking forward to getting it back from LG today. The only issue I really had with my G2x was screen bleeding. It was acceptable on one (the one I traded) and really bad on the other that I sent to LG for repair. I think they are both great phones(if you get a g2x that doesnt have tons of issues which seems to be rare)
I really do love both phones. The guy from phone dog I think put it best. The G2x is a Ferrari that looks like an ugly car and the sensation is like a BMW 5 series, really nice looking and also a good performer but not as fast as the Ferrari
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I would link it there just to show them that there are many people who switched to the Sensation who thinks it's the all around better device.
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+1 and not looking back...this thing is SO much better.
graffixnyc said:
And as JRwin knows I also have the g2x. I havent been able to do a side by side comparison yet because I traded one of my G2x's for the sensation and the other one LG had for repair. It's on the fed ex truck today. I do notice though that the g2x was a lot faster but to be fair it's running vanilla android and it was overclocked. I kind of do miss my G2x though and am looking forward to getting it back from LG today. The only issue I really had with my G2x was screen bleeding. It was acceptable on one (the one I traded) and really bad on the other that I sent to LG for repair. I think they are both great phones(if you get a g2x that doesnt have tons of issues which seems to be rare)
I really do love both phones. The guy from phone dog I think put it best. The G2x is a Ferrari that looks like an ugly car and the sensation is like a BMW 5 series, really nice looking and also a good performer but not as fast as the Ferrari
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Maybe once you go back to the G2x you will realize sensation ftw? or maybe thats just your experience. Either way, great post. I also said to a lot of people before that guy said that, " the g2x is a muscle car with no bells and whistles and the sensation is a luxury car with bells and whistles just not as fast as the muscle car". lol
very true?
Also I think the route you go is great. Send in for repair instead of waist another store device and it will probably have a issue as well. My sensation is issue free other than a couple specs of dust so if I ever get bothered or it gets worse. Im doing that. Sending it in. I want this phone. lol
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I wanted to think my G2x was the **** and a software update would make it all better, But why wait?
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Because the G2x + CM7 >>>>>>>>>> Sensation
Once they ship the G2x with GB stock, the Sensation will be old news.
player911 said:
Because the G2x + CM7 >>>>>>>>>> Sensation
Once they ship the G2x with GB stock, the Sensation will be old news.
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lol you must have rated that thread a 1 star. lmaoooo
Ive tried cm7 up to build 55 before dumping that DUMP. CM7 was buggy shiznit. Brightness cant even be changed. lol Gps bad, in landscape screen sensitivity crap, and lets not mention the 20% off battery meter even after it was apparently fixed.
GB on the G2x will not be released for a while, and will bring more bugs.
For real, go in landscape, and try and touch the bottom of the bottom letters. lol they dont respond. Something wack with that phone.
I've been using the Verizon Fascinate (Galaxy S) since launch. When the G2x came out, I got that on launch day to check out T-Mobile and a potentially awesome phone. The G2x was okay, but it didn't feel like a full step up from my Galaxy S series phone. Then it got a little buggy and I didn't have confidence in it. I returned it and cancelled at the end of the 14-day window, because I felt the Sensation may give me the step up I was looking for.
I received my Sensation in the mail yesterday. Honestly, I'm ready to tell them to port my number NOW and cancel Verizon, but it hasn't even been 24 hours yet. I'll be patient and see what issues arise over the next few days as I know some issues take a while to surface (based on what I've read). Even so, the Sensation really is an awesome phone. As already written, I wish the speaker was somewhere else like on the G2x, but that's a design flaw most phones seem to have nowadays for some reason.
I also didn't imagine all the issues LG/T-Mobile are having with the G2x. Things have been real shady since the phone was launched. I'm real glad I jumped off that boat when I had the chance. There doesn't need to be any hate between any phone users - even if they use an iPhone. You have every right to love your device and dislike another. That being said, the Sensation definitely feels like a winner... but it is too soon to tell for sure.
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lol you must have rated that thread a 1 star. lmaoooo
Ive tried cm7 up to build 55 before dumping that DUMP. CM7 was buggy shiznit. Brightness cant even be changed. lol Gps bad, in landscape screen sensitivity crap, and lets not mention the 20% off battery meter even after it was apparently fixed.
GB on the G2x will not be released for a while, and will bring more bugs.
For real, go in landscape, and try and touch the bottom of the bottom letters. lol they dont respond. Something wack with that phone.
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Yeah, I have to agree about CM7. I didnt have too many issues with CM7 but being a CM7 user on other devices I could tell for sure CM7 on the GX2 still had a long way to go. I was actually running Faux's rom the last week or so I had it and it seemed the most stable for my daily use than any other G2X GB rom.
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Everyone that defends the G2X always does so with caveats. A phone should just work. Every high-end phone's going to have quirks because of all the crap that's crammed in to them. But at a minimum a phone should:
- Only turn off and on when the user wants it to
- Dial and receive calls consistently
- Bluetooth should allow you to store profiles, connect automatically to paired devices, and provide consistent sound output
- Wi-Fi should accurately find locations, connect to them quickly, remember them, and connect again automatically
- Allow you to switch between 2/3/4G and Wi-Fi without issue
- GPS should work consistently
The O2X/G2X have problems in all the above areas (except for the seven seemingly perfect phones all the apologists own). I don't care if a phone has eight-cores clocked at 3.0ghz if it can't do the above well its speed is useless. The O2X/G2X will be remembered much like the Yugo and original Hyundai Excel when all is said and done.
The O2X was released with the same issues the G2X is suffering. LG's had six months to develop fixes. The same people that broke it are the ones trying to fix it. I hope for all its fans sake LG eventually gets it right but based on their track record I'd bet against in Vegas if I could.
Samsung's been monitoring issues with the SGS2 and has so far rolled out three updates to the ROM and four updates to the camera firmware in six weeks time. I'd guess from history HTC will be just as attentitive. Why would/should it take LG six months of customers begging and being inconvenienced to get a fix out? Their competency has to be questioned.
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lol you must have rated that thread a 1 star. lmaoooo
Ive tried cm7 up to build 55 before dumping that DUMP. CM7 was buggy shiznit. Brightness cant even be changed. lol Gps bad, in landscape screen sensitivity crap, and lets not mention the 20% off battery meter even after it was apparently fixed.
GB on the G2x will not be released for a while, and will bring more bugs.
For real, go in landscape, and try and touch the bottom of the bottom letters. lol they dont respond. Something wack with that phone.
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I'm 24hrs in to my Sensation. I have both yes. I got the Sensation because my son has it. It looked like it was worth the try.
I can't say I'm as impressed with the Sensation as you are. I probably won't keep it. But, that does not mean its not a good phone. It's impressive in its own right. Some things are better than the G2x...other things, not so much. I like Sense. I like the Camera speed, I like the stupid locking ring. I like the snappy performance, after setup. And the thing I liked the best, when going to a web page, I could read it right off...without the resizing required in the G2x.
Locked or unlocked bootloaders hold no important place for me. The Chefs on XDA are great. They do wonders with everything. Unlocked bootloaders are their domain. When the Sensation is unlocked...they will jump to it.
To me the Sensation feels off. I was a Nexus One fan and this does not feel like that. Close...but enough difference.
Right now there are enough good things between both phones to make everyone happy. If people feel they cannot wait for the fixes and updates on the G2x, the Sensation is a great choice. I can't blame them for wanting to have a phone that equals most of the expectations they had when they paid good money.
To each their own. I refuse to belittle anyone for 'jumping ship'. Its only natural to defend your own choice. Its also natural to ridicule those that do not agree with your choice. Both phones are good. It's like arguing which playmate of the month is better....Miss/Mr. January or Miss/Mr. February. For me, Don't worry, you be happy....ok?
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Everyone that defends the G2X always does so with caveats. A phone should just work. Every high-end phone's going to have quirks because of all the crap that's crammed in to them. But at a minimum a phone should:
- Only turn off and on when the user wants it to
- Dial and receive calls consistently
- Bluetooth should allow you to store profiles, connect automatically to paired devices, and provide consistent sound output
- Wi-Fi should accurately find locations, connect to them quickly, remember them, and connect again automatically
- Allow you to switch between 2/3/4G and Wi-Fi without issue
- GPS should work consistently
The O2X/G2X have problems in all the above areas (except for the seven seemingly perfect phones all the apologists own). I don't care if a phone has eight-cores clocked at 3.0ghz if it can't do the above well its speed is useless. The O2X/G2X will be remembered much like the Yugo and original Hyundai Excel when all is said and done.
The O2X was released with the same issues the G2X is suffering. LG's had six months to develop fixes. The same people that broke it are the ones trying to fix it. I hope for all its fans sake LG eventually gets it right but based on their track record I'd bet against in Vegas if I could.
Samsung's been monitoring issues with the SGS2 and has so far rolled out three updates to the ROM and four updates to the camera firmware in six weeks time. I'd guess from history HTC will be just as attentitive. Why would/should it take LG six months of customers begging and being inconvenienced to get a fix out? Their competency has to be questioned.
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This is an excellent post. I expect my phone to work like my Desktop or Laptop computer, turn it on and everything works, with the G2x it has been hit and miss!
WOW.. So I sent in my g2x because this one had really bad screen bleeding. The other 2 I had (one mine, one my daughter's) didnt have it nearly as bad as the one.. anyway.. I got it back today. On the repair form it said cause: scratch, action: replaced case (housing)
umm the phone didnt have a single scratch on it(it was brand new!) so they did a repair that didnt need to be done, and my issue still remains. I call them, he gets the repair facility on the line and they tell him screen bleeding is normal with TFT displays. I tell them I have two others and while they have it and it's acceptable, the one I sent them was very severe and protruded to the middle of the screen, not just the corners. Plus if you hold it on an angle you can see a white light bar across the top(which was not present on the other two) He gave me a supervisor who is now trying to get a supervisor from the repair facility to see if there is anything they can do in this case, but she doesnt think there is anything that can be done.. really LG?? really?? First and last LG smartphone I buy..
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First and last LG smartphone I buy..
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I feel exactly the same way. The horrifying thing is that Google's deciding between LG and HTC for production of the Nexus 4G this Fall. I hope folks from Google read XDA. The O2X is selling for 20% less than the SGS2, Sensation, and Atrix in Europe. I wonder why?
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Everyone that defends the G2X always does so with caveats. A phone should just work. Every high-end phone's going to have quirks because of all the crap that's crammed in to them. But at a minimum a phone should:
- Only turn off and on when the user wants it to
- Dial and receive calls consistently
- Bluetooth should allow you to store profiles, connect automatically to paired devices, and provide consistent sound output
- Wi-Fi should accurately find locations, connect to them quickly, remember them, and connect again automatically
- Allow you to switch between 2/3/4G and Wi-Fi without issue
- GPS should work consistently
The O2X/G2X have problems in all the above areas (except for the seven seemingly perfect phones all the apologists own). I don't care if a phone has eight-cores clocked at 3.0ghz if it can't do the above well its speed is useless. The O2X/G2X will be remembered much like the Yugo and original Hyundai Excel when all is said and done.
The O2X was released with the same issues the G2X is suffering. LG's had six months to develop fixes. The same people that broke it are the ones trying to fix it. I hope for all its fans sake LG eventually gets it right but based on their track record I'd bet against in Vegas if I could.
Samsung's been monitoring issues with the SGS2 and has so far rolled out three updates to the ROM and four updates to the camera firmware in six weeks time. I'd guess from history HTC will be just as attentitive. Why would/should it take LG six months of customers begging and being inconvenienced to get a fix out? Their competency has to be questioned.
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All good points. It really doesn't matter if someone does or does not have those issues. If you do, its important to you. Period. Only you can judge just how important it is.
Stop with the caveats....like it or not....move on...or not. Period.
alodar1 said:
I'm 24hrs in to my Sensation. I have both yes. I got the Sensation because my son has it. It looked like it was worth the try.
I can't say I'm as impressed with the Sensation as you are. I probably won't keep it. But, that does not mean its not a good phone. It's impressive in its own right. Some things are better than the G2x...other things, not so much. I like Sense. I like the Camera speed, I like the stupid locking ring. I like the snappy performance, after setup. And the thing I liked the best, when going to a web page, I could read it right off...without the resizing required in the G2x.
Locked or unlocked bootloaders hold no important place for me. The Chefs on XDA are great. They do wonders with everything. Unlocked bootloaders are their domain. When the Sensation is unlocked...they will jump to it.
To me the Sensation feels off. I was a Nexus One fan and this does not feel like that. Close...but enough difference.
Right now there are enough good things between both phones to make everyone happy. If people feel they cannot wait for the fixes and updates on the G2x, the Sensation is a great choice. I can't blame them for wanting to have a phone that equals most of the expectations they had when they paid good money.
To each their own. I refuse to belittle anyone for 'jumping ship'. Its only natural to defend your own choice. Its also natural to ridicule those that do not agree with your choice. Both phones are good. It's like arguing which playmate of the month is better....Miss/Mr. January or Miss/Mr. February. For me, Don't worry, you be happy....ok?
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alodar1 said:
All good points. It really doesn't matter if someone does or does not have those issues. If you do, its important to you. Period. Only you can judge just how important it is.
Stop with the caveats....like it or not....move on...or not. Period.
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I ask this purely out of curiosity, not to be antagonistic. How do you use your phone that any or all of the above would be acceptable? I'm starting to think there are two different groups of phone users here: 1) phone as a workhorse, and 2) phone as a hobby. I consider myself a part of the first group and my G2X became history (at great expense) when it rebooted itself in the middle of a conference call to Asia. As a hobby, I could see where the idiosyncrasies of the G2X would actually make it fun but as a device to depend on, not so much. To each their own I guess.
Am going to pick up a SK4G in a little bit and was wondering from our community the general conscensus on how you guys feel about it?
I'm coming from a MT4G, which I am extremely happy with, the way I have it set-up. Any one also have both and maybe a comparison? (not the obvious of course like "the screen is smaller", etc., I've been around a bit, I know a tad about a couple things =] )
I've noticed it doesnt have as crazy as a following as some of the other androids, but that doesnt mean theres no good development going on!
Let me know if you dont mind.
I came from the mt3gs and a VM optimus v afterwards. I wanted the mt4g for the specs. But I couldn't do all touch typing. I found keyboards to help. But it's just not the same as a physical qwerty.
I'm the kind of guy who likes to buy phone 2-4x a year. Maybe not the kings of the hill. But mid to high range phones. Of course, it's expensive to do so. I decided to get a phone to last a whole two-year contract. I opted for the s4g. I was due for an upgrade and even waited until launch date for this over a g2 or mt4g.
What won me was obviously the keyboard. You don't see too many 5-rows available. Spec-wise, this phone is just average. Camera dept. is really lacking. Only 3mp. But lack of led flash was the killer. Still, the keyboard was winner. The physical design is nice. I especially liked the sliding mechanism. Half-phone sliders, like the mt3gs, just feel faulty and flimsy. You could pull the halves apart or slide past the closing stop point. Not that an average person would. But I like to conduct stress tests. This mechanism is sturdy. People have dropped plenty times and claim the mechanism is just as sturdy as it was at purchase.
Also, the screen tilt really makes a difference. Using my mt3gs after this makes it really apparent. It makes using a non-tilt screen really hard to adjust back to.
The phone does come with some bugs and issues, which you can read through the forums (I have a thread over at tmo forums and adroid central entitled "bug report and other issues".) However, rooting and getting custom rom Smooth Maximus GingerClone will make the phone a new phone. The speed is fast and lag hardy present. Only minute issues still remain, yet to be resolved.
Overall, especially if you need a physical keyboard, I would suggest this phone. It is highly recommended you get Smooth Maximus for its best value. If all-touch phones didn't bother me I would go for a mt4g, g2, or wait for the mt4gs. But for you, as a backup phone this is an awesome investment. I would wait for the mt4gs, though, just for its specs and future android development.
I would say don't. You will miss the MT4G. I did the same thing Saturday night. I got rid of it last night. The phone has a nice keyboard and stuff... but the performance of the phone lacks! I mean it has a 1ghz processor and all, but its nowhere near fast as a vibrant.
I would say don't. Because you will be disappointed. If you want a keyboard get the G2 or wait for the myTouch 4G Slide.
3 days after I got the SK4G I traded it immediately and got a Nexus S instead. That phone wouldn't send or receive texts and it also wouldn't call or receive calls until I restarted. But that might have been wifi callings issue though. And if you browse the web a lot then this is not your device since the screen is so small. The only thing I liked about the phone was Cloud Text and the phenomenal keyboard. Although, as all Samsung slider keyboards do, it tends to once in a while not register a key when typing.
The quality of the SK also lacks significantly compared to the myTouch....
Just my 2 cents.
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I would say don't. You will miss the MT4G. I did the same thing Saturday night. I got rid of it last night. The phone has a nice keyboard and stuff... but the performance of the phone lacks! I mean it has a 1ghz processor and all, but its nowhere near fast as a vibrant.
I would say don't. Because you will be disappointed. If you want a keyboard get the G2 or wait for the myTouch 4G Slide.
3 days after I got the SK4G I traded it immediately and got a Nexus S instead. That phone wouldn't send or receive texts and it also wouldn't call or receive calls until I restarted. But that might have been wifi callings issue though. And if you browse the web a lot then this is not your device since the screen is so small. The only thing I liked about the phone was Cloud Text and the phenomenal keyboard. Although, as all Samsung slider keyboards do, it tends to once in a while not register a key when typing.
The quality of the SK also lacks significantly compared to the myTouch....
Just my 2 cents.
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Listen , you should do a bit research before posting in this thread imo .
It's a 1GHz of course it lack's performance , the Galaxy & SK4G have the same processor & gut's & once you install a custom kernel & ROM you will be fine , there is no Wifi Calling issue & browsing the web is fine , Cloud Text & the keyboard is amazing .
I don't wanna be bias so I'll give my honest opinion. If you are a power user, don't get this phone. Though it runs a lot more smoothly on a custom root setup, it still has tiny lag, as enoch pointed out it doesn't register all button keyboard presses. The only reason you should get the sk4g is for the keyboard alone. If not then a more powerful phone may satisfy your needs.
If you are a power user, don't get this phone. If you're getting a phone just cause, you can consider this. I love the phone and haven't put it down since. But if this is a main phone for two years on contract, you can get something better.
Lol, I don't mean to contradict my earlier post. I'm not as bias with this one.
i would recommend the sk4g. coming from all-touch smartphones like the nexus one and hd2 running android and the hd7, i am happy with the sidekick 4g. i generally avoided android phones with qwerty keyboards because most are sliders and i hate phones with too much movement.
the droid pro was my dream form factor for an android phone but since i am happy with tmo there was no way i would switch to verizon just for that phone. plus the resolution on the droid pros smaller screen was a turnoff.
the slider on the sidekick 4g is pretty sturdy. the keyboard is awesome. i use my phone a lot for business and the sidekick 4g was the last smartphone on my list. but after comparing to other qwerty androids out there the skg4 seemed to be one of the better.
the camera is only 3m and no led flash. but the quality of the pictures is pretty good for being 3m. depending on what rom i had on my hd2, the sk4g's cam took pics just as good.
the speakerphone is pretty good. better than any htc ive had.(g1, mytouch 3g, hd2, hd7, nexus one).
even though its mostly made of plastic, its pretty durable and not as 'cheap' feeling as some claim it to be. i actually think its one of the more better built phones ive had(besides the hd2).
as for performance, even though it has the same 1GHz hummingbird processor as the galaxy s, tab, etc... it doesnt feel as smooth. most of the lag can be noticed while unlocking, navigating through any custom ui, and switching back to home screen from some apps. but once you are inside of an app it feels just as smooth and snappy as other 1GHz smartphones.
if i were you i'd probably wait until the mytouch 4g slide comes out.. its not too long. im not really digging the mytouch4g/slide's front looks and not liking how the touchscreen is fully exposed on all sides as opposed to the sk4g's screen/slider is protected on two sides.
I know my phones. I know it technically has the same guts as any Galaxy S phone. But I can tell you any Galaxy S phone feels so much more faster than this phone does. I mean I was shocked that the phone didn't perform like a 1ghz device should! I did install Bali with voodoo enabled and that didn't make much difference. While on the vibrant the difference was almost night and day.
And yes I pointed out that Cloud Text and the keyboard are Amazing!
But the phone is just sluggish.
If he is a power user, he needs to look elsewhere because this phone won't suffice your need of power. I mean I found my self restarting the phone every few hours while on my myTouch 4G I never had to restart.
Another thing I should also point out is that battery life isn't the greatest. The phone wasn't lasting me even 8 hours a day (I'm more of a power user). While the myTouch would last me 22+ hours on the Virtuous Unity ROM or 18+ hours on stock. The phone with a keyboard that lasted the longest that I ever owned (android) was the G2 I was getting a solid 36+ hours of use. It was Stunning!!
My suggestion would be wait a few weeks and you can get the myTouch 4G Slide.
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Listen , you should do a bit research before posting in this thread imo .
It's a 1GHz of course it lack's performance , the Galaxy & SK4G have the same processor & gut's & once you install a custom kernel & ROM you will be fine , there is no Wifi Calling issue & browsing the web is fine , Cloud Text & the keyboard is amazing .
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I'm trading my sidekick for a nexus one next week. Unless I change my mind.
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I would recommend this phone if you are a hardcore qwerty user like myself. I came from the MT4G and I got this phone through craigslist and I have been satisfied. Is it a high end phone? Maybe if this came out last summer but it does not stop this from being a good phone. Even though the development is not as great as other phones ( I do appreciate the support!) There is not much wrong with this phone. 3 MP is weak for a camera nowadays but it does its job. Is the phone sluggish at times? Sometimes but with the gingerclone rom and bali kernal it has decreased. With more roms in kernals in the future it should change indeed. As for the battery I let the battery die and let it charge completely and no lie got 24+ hours of battery life which consisted of playing Chrono Trigger on my phone (keyboard controller ftw) but as everyone else has been saying if you want value and a 5 row keyboard then sk4g, if you wanna throw some more money and wanna be that suave guy with a fancy phone then please get the mt4gs and tell me how it is ;-)
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Not a good trade. I wouldn't do it.
Try to see if you can get a Nexus S instead.
bburke88 said:
I'm trading my sidekick for a nexus one next week. Unless I change my mind.
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most people who are all hardcore with buying the latest and greatest may disagree. My point of contention is, when your a guy like me who has to keep up with multiple females at any given moment there is no better phone. Simply put, *****es love texting. The only competition we have as far as touch screen texting is the Droid boomerang. I forget the model designation but the thing is ****ing retarded huge. Next up we have the blackberry, but the closed source OS was the major boner killer for me.
With all that said, if you **** *****es, like lots of *****es. There is no better phone. All the other ************s struggle to keep up. I don't know how, but all the females I know get at least 45 WPM out of those ****ing dinosaur Nokia bricks. I can't do that ****, but I do know that with a SK4G I can get 45 WPM+ with nearly 100% accuracy.
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most people who are all hardcore with buying the latest and greatest may disagree. My point of contention is, when your a guy like me who has to keep up with multiple females at any given moment there is no better phone. Simply put, *****es love texting. The only competition we have as far as touch screen texting is the Droid boomerang. I forget the model designation but the thing is ****ing retarded huge. Next up we have the blackberry, but the closed source OS was the major boner killer for me.
With all that said, if you **** *****es, like lots of *****es. There is no better phone. All the other ************s struggle to keep up. I don't know how, but all the females I know get at least 45 WPM out of those ****ing dinosaur Nokia bricks. I can't do that ****, but I do know that with a SK4G I can get 45 WPM+ with nearly 100% accuracy.
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Lol... you say some dumb **** bro...
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Just wait for the 4g slide
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