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So I went and played around just for a few min with the captivate, and i was blown away by that screen.. but didnt care much for the app drawer and a few other samsung tweeks.. but it seems most can now be eliminated by CM6 so the question for all of you.. pros and cons of the captivate vs the evo?
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So I went and played around just for a few min with the captivate, and i was blown away by that screen.. but didnt care much for the app drawer and a few other samsung tweeks.. but it seems most can now be eliminated by CM6 so the question for all of you.. pros and cons of the captivate vs the evo?
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Biggest Pro to the captivate is no 4 G up charge also No HTC Sense.
Captivate. My cousin who has the EVO is jealous, especially of the AMOLED screen.
I faced the same decision. I code the captivate. I thought the evo was very un-smooth. Everything seemed jerky. I've read numerous reviews saying the battery will die in less than a day, even if you never turn the screen on. I thought the screen looked very dull, even by lcd standards. I don't know if htc sorted it out yet, but the screen was separating from the body of the phone for just about everyone. If you play games that require quick dragging, the phone has enough touch lag to be very irritating. The phone has dust-under-the screen issues and it's not even from the corner that separates from the body.
The captivate has problems too, but as long as the gps is fixed, I'll be happy with my decision.
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So I went and played around just for a few min with the captivate, and i was blown away by that screen.. but didnt care much for the app drawer and a few other samsung tweeks.. but it seems most can now be eliminated by CM6 so the question for all of you.. pros and cons of the captivate vs the evo?
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Hmmmm on the Captivate forum, you think anyone will recommend the Evo?
Also there is no CM6 for the Captivate right now - someone is working on a Vanilla port, but it is not finished.
Then there is the issue of network coverage - Sprint vs. AT&T and just try taking your Evo outside North America - it won't make phone calls.
HTC doesn't have a great track record for rock solid hardware either.
I wonder if the Galaxy S phones wouldve been more popular (and better for the android brand) if Sammy hadnt actually bothered with touch wiz?
Hmmm...point to ponder
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Hmmmm on the Captivate forum, you think anyone will recommend the Evo?
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I figured in this forum there might be some ppl who switched and they could tell me why.
I think im going to go buy the captivate today.. i just wish the usb port were on the bottom so it could have a normal dock...
EVO with everything turned off: 4G, GPS, WiFi, email and other automatic updates,etc. I still got maybe 9 hours before having to recharge. When you work a 12 hour shift as ER Nurse one doesn't have opportunity to be without their drug and medical reference source while it's recharging. I don't sit down much!
Have owned a new HTC WinMo device each of the last five years, but despite quality issues they were the only real game in town. Now they aren't, and like Steve Jobs they better wake their arrogant arses up!
EVO has too many issues: screen delaminates(fixed), LED light bleeding everywhere, bright/hot spots, power buttons commonly crack as well as the protruding camera lens cracks since it takes impacts everytime one places it down on flat surface, etc. and depending on who you speak to at Sprint most consider these abuses and won't warranty them.
I don't want to jinx it, but my 3 week old Captivate's battery life kicks a** and can go 36 hours before absolutely having to recharge, plus main reason why I haven't taken final step to try JH3.
I plug it in everynight though, but aside from the hopefully repairable GPS issue it's awesome.
Updated EVO to Froyo 2.2 and noticed improvements immediately soo I can't wait. I'll miss animated Sense widget cause app version just isn't same though.
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I wonder if the Galaxy S phones wouldve been more popular (and better for the android brand) if Sammy hadnt actually bothered with touch wiz?
Hmmm...point to ponder
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I like everything about touch wiz that can't be replaced by launcher pro. I like all the small stuff peppered throughout the os.
touch wiz flat out sucks.........i don't know what gave samsung the idea that it was good.
At least for HTC Sense, it's pretty, good looking, and includes things like the weather clock widget plus full weather animations that stock doesn't have, plus the Sense keyboard is good from what i've heard.
I would take Sense over touch wiz.........but yea anyways, vanilla is still better than any.
As for Cyanogenmod.....it's coming. They said there will be CM on the Galaxy S phone, you can go check out who was put on that job.
Edit: i forgot to answer the thread.........i would get the Captivate. Superior performance, better screen, slim, but less screen real estate. 4 inches IMO is just about the sweetspot for a phone. Hummingbird and PowerVR SGX540 are beast though, they will last you until your upgrade if not longer, Captivate has the best GPU in a mobile phone right now and no other phone has it yet. OMAP doesn't plan on putting it in their phones until their multi-core cpu's come out which is like the end of 2011 from what i've heard.
Go for the Captivate....snapdragon is also slow in 3D apps which means the Evo will be
I actually like the Touchwiz features - the slide to call on the contacts screen, the app drawer, widgets....
The top USB port is so your phone can lay sideways and dock - it slides into a samsung dock with plug on the side.
Some of the down sides are Samsungs email and calendar apps - but this is not really touchwiz fault - but samsung app fault. The lag issues are also not touchwiz, but Samsungs other decisions.
But you are correct in the notion that all can be fixed by a 3rd party or vanilla rom.
If you have that option, why not wait for the Epic?
4G, front facing camera, flash, slide out keyboard, SuperAMOLED screen. I wish I had Sprint. I am very happy with my Captivate though, overall.
Definitely the Galaxy S over the EVO. The EVO screen looks incredibly washed out to me now.
Plus if you're into customizing your phone at all the HTC Sense crap is very unfriendly.
EVO to Captivate
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I figured in this forum there might be some ppl who switched and they could tell me why.
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I did. Had the EVO for a month, and returned it. Primary issues
- horrible battery life, even with 4g, wifi etc turned off when not used. Couldn't get past 5PM.
- 4G connectivity is spotty at best. Doesn't work while indoors. Plus, when you have 1 bar of 4G, the phone tries to get the data thru 4G waits for a min or two, before giving up and reconnecting to 3G. All this time, I was waiting for an app to get data.
- Build quality - Light leakage at the bottom of the screen, battery door doesn't line up with the rest of the body, recessed ear piece would collect dust and so on. Expected more from a seasoned player like htc.
I didn't really mind the $10 fee for 4G, because overall Sprint's plan is cheaper than VZ's or ATT's anyway. But, the phone isn't good enough. Of course, people in EVO forums wouldn't agree
They are both great phones. Galaxy is a more powerful phone, so I think it will stay relevant longer. I have a friend with droid x and a acquaintance with evo and both screens just don't compare. Especially the droid, its just, really washed out. I am really happy with the phone, and touchwiz, but this is my first android phone. But I think samsung did an excellent job adding contrast throughout the interface to take advantage of the amoled screen. Like messaging for example. I have excellent battery life and no lag complaints, so I've never bothered with lag fix (and as an adderall fueled college student I think any lag would annoy the hell out of me)
Gps very broken though
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I have a evo and captivate. I have had a really hard time deciding what to keep. If you are a gamer I would say captivate but if gaming on your phone is not a big deal to you then I would go with the evo. They perform pretty close in all aspects but gaming is 2x to 3x better on the captivate. The captivate screen has better colors but has blue tint in whites. You cant tell unless you compare to evo side by side on Google's home page. The Sense vs touchwiz is personal preference. I like touchwiz app menu better then my evo's but sense has better UI and widgets.
Some videos I made evo vs captiavte with and without lag fix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKsAUR61ByM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji49qFNxC4c
If you turn auto sync off and gps off when your not using it, with moderate web use and a god bit of texting I got two days before battery went to red. Very happy.
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took the plunge. came home with the captivate today.. THANKS everybody for your opinions and info.. this screen is super sexy
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took the plunge. came home with the captivate today.. THANKS everybody for your opinions and info.. this screen is super sexy
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Ha ha told my wife the same thing, never said an electronic device was sexy before I got this thing. You'll be happy.
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Was out today and thought I'd stop by and check out the infuse...
I spent about 5 minutes goin over it...
The screen looks awesome....
Touchwiz looks cheap...
GPS could not lock on my location..but the Atrix and the Inspire on display had no trouble at all..
I may be a little jealous if the display and battery size of the infuse...otherwise I'm stickin with the inspire...
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good there really isn't a plus from other galaxy s phones. Sure there's a better camera, bigger screen, ffc, and a better screen but what's hardware without software?
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I messed with one for five minutes as well. Salesman was really hyping it up how it was the best phone on at&t right now. I agree the screen is nice but I still prefer the inspire.
I feel just like that whenever I look at my wife’s Galaxy Captivate’s bright screen, until I try to navigate that damn Touchwiz. Grass will always be greener on the other side when it comes to technical toys. But with all the things I can do with my Inspire 4G, I can do without the faster CPU, front facing camera, and the extra .2 inches of high def screen until next Inspire (something comparable to) comes out.
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I messed with one for five minutes as well. Salesman was really hyping it up how it was the best phone on at&t right now. I agree the screen is nice but I still prefer the inspire.
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if we sell enough of them, samsung gives us goodies, we win points that we can redeem for electronics and such...
so you're damn right its the best phone we have at AT&T right now..
(i still use my inspire and i think its way better than both infuse and atrix, much more solid built etc)
but yea.. when the next phone comes out that gives us salesmen something good in return, guess what.. it's gonna be the best phone you can buy for your money!! i guarantee it!! *wink*
The Infuse looks very interesting to me.
I checked out a non-working demo unit at Costco and it's about the same size as the Inspire and the screen was noticeably bigger. Bravo Samsung for coming out with a 4.5" screen phone and using as much real estate on the front of the phone as possible.
The GPS lock problem... hmmm... gee Samsung... haven't you learned?
As far as the UI: Come on... most of us hate TouchWiz. That's a given. Just replace it with LauncherPro or ADWLauncher. I bet half of the Inspire users here don't use Sense (though I do and actually like Sense).
Would I trade in my Inspire for the Infuse (I bought from Costco): No. I'm still pissed off at Samsung over the Captivate GPS issues... but if the Infuse turns out to have 100% working hardware and features as advertised it'd be a step in the right direction winning me back. I would recommend it to non-phone obsessed friends who don't care about quick OS updates.
We'll be hearing about any defects or problems within a week if there are any.
I played with one too. Reminded me of my captivate just bigger. kinda cool, but eh. I still prefer my Inspire!
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The Infuse looks very interesting to me.
I checked out a non-working demo unit at Costco and it's about the same size as the Inspire and the screen was noticeably bigger. Bravo Samsung for coming out with a 4.5" screen phone and using as much real estate on the front of the phone as possible.
The GPS lock problem... hmmm... gee Samsung... haven't you learned?
As far as the UI: Come on... most of us hate TouchWiz. That's a given. Just replace it with LauncherPro or ADWLauncher. I bet half of the Inspire users here don't use Sense (though I do and actually like Sense).
Would I trade in my Inspire for the Infuse (I bought from Costco): No. I'm still pissed off at Samsung over the Captivate GPS issues... but if the Infuse turns out to have 100% working hardware and features as advertised it'd be a step in the right direction winning me back. I would recommend it to non-phone obsessed friends who don't care about quick OS updates.
We'll be hearing about any defects or problems within a week if there are any.
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I love sense, and when I had my captivated, everything about it was HTC. notification bar, battery meter, signal meter, app icons, etc. I wasn't phone obsessed as far as updates until I got into Android. So that may change for them.
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Samsung's hardware is tempting, but I'll never forget the garbage I (we) went through with the Captivate. Dying earpiece and external speakers (both happened to me on different handsets), sleep death, no GPS, the OTA update that bricked stock phones...all of this and more, and the phone hasn't even been out for a year.
Not only that, but Samsung insulted us by releasing a GPS "fix" app in the market that "restored the GPS to factory settings"...you know, the ones that didn't work in the first place?
I'm not a fanboy and won't spend my money buying products from a company that is all to happy to ass-rape me for giving them business. Apple has the luxury for rabid fanboyism, so no matter what they do, people will still buy their products. Samsung doesn't have that, they just think they do for some reason.
The good side of the Infuse is his unlocked bootloader.
My wife has a Inspire and I have a captivate, I have to say the captivate is really easier to unlock. But I agree with most of you about the captivate, a stock captivate is really not perfect, but I'm running my cappy with Contiuuum 5.4.1 (Android 2.3.3) and I can say bye bye to all the problems, my gps is a dream and my battery time is amazing.
I have a SE Xperia X10 and I'm in the market for a new phone, so I went to my local AT&T store for the Sunday release of the Infuse. I played with it, and with the Inspire, for about an hour.
I came away from the experience thinking my next phone will be an HTC...now if I can only hold out for the upcoming "Holiday." hee hee. Here's why-
1. I have owned Samsungs before, including a brief stint with the Captivate, and I'm unimpressed with the company as far as updates and support.
2. The HTC aluminum unibody case just says "build quality" to me. The infuse felt just like the Captivate in the hand - like flimsy, cheap plastic that should not be used for high-end phones. I know some people want light weight, but come on - few extra grams won't kill ya and it just might save your phone if you're a little rough with it.
3. The Infuse's screen was way too color over-saturated for me. It's bright and clear, but looks surreal to me. I would tire of that in hurry.
4. I could detect no speed or smoothness advantage for the Infuse. Heck, I could load up a custom rom on the Inspire, overclock it conservatively and just beat the snot out of the Infuse... which leads me to....
5. There seems to be a whole lot more developer time and interest in the HTC devices, which means loads more fun for me.
I have both phones with me right now and here are my quick observations between the two phones (Inspire running current version of LeeDroid 2.3.3):
Web browsing: Inspire – Seems to load pages faster and better scrolling.
Camera: Infuse – For some reason the pictures from my Inspire produce a redish look and are too soft, almost out of focus.
Build quality: Inspire – HTC = solid. I don’t notice much difference when carrying them in my pocket as the Infuse is lighter.
Screen: Infuse - However the Inspire is not bad. I could live with both. After looking at the Infuse I do notice a little bit of softness to the Inspire’s text.
Call quality/Handset speaker: Infuse – I have always had an issue with the call quality of HTC devices for my taste. I have to say that the Infuse has one of the best sounding speakers. I would rate it on par with the iPhone 4 or better.
GPS: Infuse – I get a lock in about 10 seconds. Inspire takes about 1 minute with current ROM/Radio.
Battery life: Infuse – But not by much (10 to 15% better).
Speedtests: Infuse – Speed tests seam consistently higher using Speedtest.net (between 4-5 download and 1.5-2 upload).
Battery charging: Inspire – for some reason the Infuse (and most Samsung phones) take forever to fully charge.
Reception: Still need a few more days with the phone but did have an issue with it the very first call. Called AT&T to make a change to my account and dropped the call five times. The lady at AT&T apologized and said that her land line has been dropping a lot of calls lately (WTF?!?!). I should have a conclusion within the next few days.
I’m not going to get into Touchwiz vs. Sense as there are several write-ups on this but based upon the above, I’m leaning towards the Infuse. Call quality is fantastic on my side as well as the other side. I travel a lot so being in airports and cars this is very important for me. The other item is camera quality. Images may be a little oversaturated by they look sharp and I’m no longer to grabbing my wife’s iPhone 4 to take pictures or videos.
Hope this helps anyone looking at both of these devices and let me know if you have any questions.
I may have to reconsider. I spent another day playing with the phones at the ATT shop. I loaded up speedtest on the Inspire, Attrix and Infuse and ran it on each phone about five times. The Infuse consistently beat the others on download and upload. It was close with the Attrix, but the Inspire got its clock cleaned every time.
The screen on the Infuse started to grow on me when I got out of the start screen and its surreal, over the top background and icon colors. When you look at web pages, movies and snapped pictures, it looks amazingly good. The blacks are so very black, even way off axis.
I also played around with the cameras and I have to say that the Infuse is outstanding. Very fast focus and snap and consistently better looking shots...well, could have been the better screen making them appear to be better.
With all the apps coming out now that utilize video chat with the front camera, I don't know if I could go another year or so without one and of course the Infuse has a nice one.
The only down side I had with the Infuse was the build quality. Now that I think about it, it was really the "feel" and the super light weight. Then it dawned on me...duh!...I'm going to put a case on it, so that can be easily corrected.
So now the only thing that I have left to quibble about is the lack of notification lights on the Infuse.....and yet, something tells me that there will be an app or fix that converts some of those other front lights to message notifications. And then of course there's the relative lack of developer input on Samsung devices.
Ok, so do you think I am talking myself into the Infuse?....maybe, just maybe.
Lmao u diss the infuse then come back and suddenly its way better? Little lost in denial
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Every Samsung phone I have seen / had my hands on felt poorly made and cheap. Felt like if I touched it the wrong way I would break it! Plus it doesn't have a dual core CPU so I am not seeing the benefit to switching to it and paying $100 more than the Inspire.
Yes indeed. This inspire has fallen off the back of the car and bounced and slid a goodways before realizing that on this narrow road here in mesquite. I picked it up after backtracking and had dust on the screen that's it. And even had it.upstairs and my nephew dropped the phone 1.5 stories and not one crack nor scratch. Btw had a platinum series casing on the whole time.
NO INSPIRES WERE HURT THRU THESE HORRID TIMES
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Every Samsung phone I have seen / had my hands on felt poorly made and cheap. Felt like if I touched it the wrong way I would break it! Plus it doesn't have a dual core CPU so I am not seeing the benefit to switching to it and paying $100 more than the Inspire.
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If I wanted a Captivate, I would buy a Captivate. The Infuse is just a stupid phone in my opinion. It's not bad, I'm sure, but it doesn't make sense to buy one with the Holiday and Ma Bell's version of the Galaxy S II right around the corner.
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Am going to pick up a SK4G in a little bit and was wondering from our community the general conscensus on how you guys feel about it?
I'm coming from a MT4G, which I am extremely happy with, the way I have it set-up. Any one also have both and maybe a comparison? (not the obvious of course like "the screen is smaller", etc., I've been around a bit, I know a tad about a couple things =] )
I've noticed it doesnt have as crazy as a following as some of the other androids, but that doesnt mean theres no good development going on!
Let me know if you dont mind.
I came from the mt3gs and a VM optimus v afterwards. I wanted the mt4g for the specs. But I couldn't do all touch typing. I found keyboards to help. But it's just not the same as a physical qwerty.
I'm the kind of guy who likes to buy phone 2-4x a year. Maybe not the kings of the hill. But mid to high range phones. Of course, it's expensive to do so. I decided to get a phone to last a whole two-year contract. I opted for the s4g. I was due for an upgrade and even waited until launch date for this over a g2 or mt4g.
What won me was obviously the keyboard. You don't see too many 5-rows available. Spec-wise, this phone is just average. Camera dept. is really lacking. Only 3mp. But lack of led flash was the killer. Still, the keyboard was winner. The physical design is nice. I especially liked the sliding mechanism. Half-phone sliders, like the mt3gs, just feel faulty and flimsy. You could pull the halves apart or slide past the closing stop point. Not that an average person would. But I like to conduct stress tests. This mechanism is sturdy. People have dropped plenty times and claim the mechanism is just as sturdy as it was at purchase.
Also, the screen tilt really makes a difference. Using my mt3gs after this makes it really apparent. It makes using a non-tilt screen really hard to adjust back to.
The phone does come with some bugs and issues, which you can read through the forums (I have a thread over at tmo forums and adroid central entitled "bug report and other issues".) However, rooting and getting custom rom Smooth Maximus GingerClone will make the phone a new phone. The speed is fast and lag hardy present. Only minute issues still remain, yet to be resolved.
Overall, especially if you need a physical keyboard, I would suggest this phone. It is highly recommended you get Smooth Maximus for its best value. If all-touch phones didn't bother me I would go for a mt4g, g2, or wait for the mt4gs. But for you, as a backup phone this is an awesome investment. I would wait for the mt4gs, though, just for its specs and future android development.
I would say don't. You will miss the MT4G. I did the same thing Saturday night. I got rid of it last night. The phone has a nice keyboard and stuff... but the performance of the phone lacks! I mean it has a 1ghz processor and all, but its nowhere near fast as a vibrant.
I would say don't. Because you will be disappointed. If you want a keyboard get the G2 or wait for the myTouch 4G Slide.
3 days after I got the SK4G I traded it immediately and got a Nexus S instead. That phone wouldn't send or receive texts and it also wouldn't call or receive calls until I restarted. But that might have been wifi callings issue though. And if you browse the web a lot then this is not your device since the screen is so small. The only thing I liked about the phone was Cloud Text and the phenomenal keyboard. Although, as all Samsung slider keyboards do, it tends to once in a while not register a key when typing.
The quality of the SK also lacks significantly compared to the myTouch....
Just my 2 cents.
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I would say don't. You will miss the MT4G. I did the same thing Saturday night. I got rid of it last night. The phone has a nice keyboard and stuff... but the performance of the phone lacks! I mean it has a 1ghz processor and all, but its nowhere near fast as a vibrant.
I would say don't. Because you will be disappointed. If you want a keyboard get the G2 or wait for the myTouch 4G Slide.
3 days after I got the SK4G I traded it immediately and got a Nexus S instead. That phone wouldn't send or receive texts and it also wouldn't call or receive calls until I restarted. But that might have been wifi callings issue though. And if you browse the web a lot then this is not your device since the screen is so small. The only thing I liked about the phone was Cloud Text and the phenomenal keyboard. Although, as all Samsung slider keyboards do, it tends to once in a while not register a key when typing.
The quality of the SK also lacks significantly compared to the myTouch....
Just my 2 cents.
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Listen , you should do a bit research before posting in this thread imo .
It's a 1GHz of course it lack's performance , the Galaxy & SK4G have the same processor & gut's & once you install a custom kernel & ROM you will be fine , there is no Wifi Calling issue & browsing the web is fine , Cloud Text & the keyboard is amazing .
I don't wanna be bias so I'll give my honest opinion. If you are a power user, don't get this phone. Though it runs a lot more smoothly on a custom root setup, it still has tiny lag, as enoch pointed out it doesn't register all button keyboard presses. The only reason you should get the sk4g is for the keyboard alone. If not then a more powerful phone may satisfy your needs.
If you are a power user, don't get this phone. If you're getting a phone just cause, you can consider this. I love the phone and haven't put it down since. But if this is a main phone for two years on contract, you can get something better.
Lol, I don't mean to contradict my earlier post. I'm not as bias with this one.
i would recommend the sk4g. coming from all-touch smartphones like the nexus one and hd2 running android and the hd7, i am happy with the sidekick 4g. i generally avoided android phones with qwerty keyboards because most are sliders and i hate phones with too much movement.
the droid pro was my dream form factor for an android phone but since i am happy with tmo there was no way i would switch to verizon just for that phone. plus the resolution on the droid pros smaller screen was a turnoff.
the slider on the sidekick 4g is pretty sturdy. the keyboard is awesome. i use my phone a lot for business and the sidekick 4g was the last smartphone on my list. but after comparing to other qwerty androids out there the skg4 seemed to be one of the better.
the camera is only 3m and no led flash. but the quality of the pictures is pretty good for being 3m. depending on what rom i had on my hd2, the sk4g's cam took pics just as good.
the speakerphone is pretty good. better than any htc ive had.(g1, mytouch 3g, hd2, hd7, nexus one).
even though its mostly made of plastic, its pretty durable and not as 'cheap' feeling as some claim it to be. i actually think its one of the more better built phones ive had(besides the hd2).
as for performance, even though it has the same 1GHz hummingbird processor as the galaxy s, tab, etc... it doesnt feel as smooth. most of the lag can be noticed while unlocking, navigating through any custom ui, and switching back to home screen from some apps. but once you are inside of an app it feels just as smooth and snappy as other 1GHz smartphones.
if i were you i'd probably wait until the mytouch 4g slide comes out.. its not too long. im not really digging the mytouch4g/slide's front looks and not liking how the touchscreen is fully exposed on all sides as opposed to the sk4g's screen/slider is protected on two sides.
I know my phones. I know it technically has the same guts as any Galaxy S phone. But I can tell you any Galaxy S phone feels so much more faster than this phone does. I mean I was shocked that the phone didn't perform like a 1ghz device should! I did install Bali with voodoo enabled and that didn't make much difference. While on the vibrant the difference was almost night and day.
And yes I pointed out that Cloud Text and the keyboard are Amazing!
But the phone is just sluggish.
If he is a power user, he needs to look elsewhere because this phone won't suffice your need of power. I mean I found my self restarting the phone every few hours while on my myTouch 4G I never had to restart.
Another thing I should also point out is that battery life isn't the greatest. The phone wasn't lasting me even 8 hours a day (I'm more of a power user). While the myTouch would last me 22+ hours on the Virtuous Unity ROM or 18+ hours on stock. The phone with a keyboard that lasted the longest that I ever owned (android) was the G2 I was getting a solid 36+ hours of use. It was Stunning!!
My suggestion would be wait a few weeks and you can get the myTouch 4G Slide.
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Listen , you should do a bit research before posting in this thread imo .
It's a 1GHz of course it lack's performance , the Galaxy & SK4G have the same processor & gut's & once you install a custom kernel & ROM you will be fine , there is no Wifi Calling issue & browsing the web is fine , Cloud Text & the keyboard is amazing .
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I'm trading my sidekick for a nexus one next week. Unless I change my mind.
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I would recommend this phone if you are a hardcore qwerty user like myself. I came from the MT4G and I got this phone through craigslist and I have been satisfied. Is it a high end phone? Maybe if this came out last summer but it does not stop this from being a good phone. Even though the development is not as great as other phones ( I do appreciate the support!) There is not much wrong with this phone. 3 MP is weak for a camera nowadays but it does its job. Is the phone sluggish at times? Sometimes but with the gingerclone rom and bali kernal it has decreased. With more roms in kernals in the future it should change indeed. As for the battery I let the battery die and let it charge completely and no lie got 24+ hours of battery life which consisted of playing Chrono Trigger on my phone (keyboard controller ftw) but as everyone else has been saying if you want value and a 5 row keyboard then sk4g, if you wanna throw some more money and wanna be that suave guy with a fancy phone then please get the mt4gs and tell me how it is ;-)
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Not a good trade. I wouldn't do it.
Try to see if you can get a Nexus S instead.
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I'm trading my sidekick for a nexus one next week. Unless I change my mind.
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most people who are all hardcore with buying the latest and greatest may disagree. My point of contention is, when your a guy like me who has to keep up with multiple females at any given moment there is no better phone. Simply put, *****es love texting. The only competition we have as far as touch screen texting is the Droid boomerang. I forget the model designation but the thing is ****ing retarded huge. Next up we have the blackberry, but the closed source OS was the major boner killer for me.
With all that said, if you **** *****es, like lots of *****es. There is no better phone. All the other ************s struggle to keep up. I don't know how, but all the females I know get at least 45 WPM out of those ****ing dinosaur Nokia bricks. I can't do that ****, but I do know that with a SK4G I can get 45 WPM+ with nearly 100% accuracy.
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most people who are all hardcore with buying the latest and greatest may disagree. My point of contention is, when your a guy like me who has to keep up with multiple females at any given moment there is no better phone. Simply put, *****es love texting. The only competition we have as far as touch screen texting is the Droid boomerang. I forget the model designation but the thing is ****ing retarded huge. Next up we have the blackberry, but the closed source OS was the major boner killer for me.
With all that said, if you **** *****es, like lots of *****es. There is no better phone. All the other ************s struggle to keep up. I don't know how, but all the females I know get at least 45 WPM out of those ****ing dinosaur Nokia bricks. I can't do that ****, but I do know that with a SK4G I can get 45 WPM+ with nearly 100% accuracy.
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Lol... you say some dumb **** bro...
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Just wait for the 4g slide
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I used my upgrade almost a month ago (coming from an infuse 4g) and initally i was wondering if i did the right thing. The SR is faster, has LTE (i dont live in an LTE area) however adding on another 2 years to my contract seemed questionable for such a small upgrade (at least from the Infuse). Ive been here for 3 weeks now and was thinking (just like some of you are) of switching to the SGS II simply because of the lack of dev support the SR seemes to have. Well 3 days ago i got an SGS II. I used it for about a day,did some tests, and i can now say with confidence that compared the the Skyrocket the SGS II doesnt even feel like it should be a part of the Galaxy family. The problems i had with it.
1. Build quality - The build quality was terrible! the back cover felt like a thin piece of cardboard, the speaker was horrible and it had that same ugly bump at the bottom of the phone my infuse and most other samsung phones have. It felt like if i dropped it that would be it. Not to mention the terrible backlighting of the capcative buttons on the front. The Skyrocket has the LED backlit... SGS II looks yellowish and just plain ugly
2. Network speed - I live in a crappy area. An hour north of fresno CA. With the Skyrocket i get about 3-7MBPS on "4g non LTE". With the SGS II in the same area same bars same everything i only could pull at the most 1-2.5mbps... Terrible!
3. Last years technology! - I purchased my Infuse 4g on launch day. I can honestaly say without a shadow of a doubt the SGS II feels and looks JUST LIKE the Infuse 4g. The only real difference is the Infuse 4g has a single core processor and a slightly larger screen. If im going to be under contract for another two years why would i want the same technology i could have gotten almost a year ago?
All in all NOW i can say im happy with my SR. It may not be a huge upgrade but its a hell of a lot better than the Infuse 4g/SGS II. The SGS II feels like something is missing, as if it were rushed to the market and compared to the Skyrocket is just feels plain slow in every aspect (browsing, gaming, daily tasks,) It felt just like the Infuse 4g!!! I dont look at it as the Galaxy S II. I look at it as a smaller Infuse 4g or a slightly upgraded Infuse. Please if your considering jumping ship make sure your thuroughly spend your time with that phone first. Glad I did.
I beg to differ. There are a few things i dislike about the skyrocket, but they are not enough to send me back the SGS2.
1. The screen is crap. The extra .2" is nice, but the color calibration and the line/blob issue makes everything look terrible. Compare the skyrocket to an SGS2 or an Infuse and you will see exactly what i'm talking about.
2. I'm not a big fan of the rounded corners on the Skyrocket. I wish samsung would had made the phone similar to the infuse with different internals. Also, I wish the battery cover was a textured finish. The smooth finish IMHO feels cheap.
3. Developer support. The sgs2 is virtually the same exact phone as the european version and that means it gets the latest roms quicker. It is something i definitely miss after moving to the skyrocket.
The reason I won't go back to the SGS2 is I want LTE. But I do agree on the buttons on the SGS2. They are yellow and ugly.
Hopefully samsung will fix the skyrocket's screen defects and then I have no reservations in keeping it.
The lines/ blob are only visible on low brightness and on dark grey background. Manually set the brightness and you'll forget is there. There's nothing wrong with the screen is beautiful.
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Nice comments... I was wondering if there was support and development of rom, manly to ICS dev to this sgs II lte, because I have the sgs I9000 and there is a lot of support, for example, I am running ICS already.
In resume, SGS II LTE there's a great hardware but poor support, am I correct?
How are your thoughts right now?
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The lines/ blob are only visible on low brightness and on dark grey background. Manually set the brightness and you'll forget is there. There's nothing wrong with the screen is beautiful.
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This is far from the truth. I was using the same wallpaper on the gs2 as I was on the skyrocket, the chroma ICS wallpaper, and the first thing I noticed when I booted up the skyrocket is how horrible the wallpaper looked. Colors were not blended well and the black parts looked blotchy.
And who wants to keep their brightness up all the time. I like having a battery that lasts all day and to do that I need to keep the brightness down. Regardless the screen quality on the skyrocket is not even close to the skyrocket.
Glad to see I'm not the only one having trouble deciding between these phones. I actually have both, and find myself swapping between the two.
1. I think the GSII is probably the best feeling phone in my hand. love the textured back, perfectly thin. I agree that the rounded corners on the SR piss me off. I've dropped this phone 3 times because it slid out of my carpenter pocket. I have never dropped the GSII in this manner and I attribute it to this design. I also prefer the power button on the GSII (location, click-feel). Petty, I know, but when you can hold and play with both for weeks at a time, you notice these things.
2. Apps. I'm actually liking the stock feel (for now) and noticed that the GSII has better apps. I get a kick out of the Voice Command/Talk App on the GSII (I want to port it over), the movie edit app, little things, ya know?
3. I do love the screen, the extra .2" makes a difference. Colors seems a bit on the washy side, but side to side I believe it is because the SR tends to be brighter than the SGII. i'm sure I could manually adjust it, but then I lose the AutoBrightness, but it still looks gorgeous. I'd give the SGII a 10, and the SR a 9.5, very negligible.
4. LTE, that's it. This is probably the only reason I bought the SR. It was faster, cheaper, and LTE is so close to my market I can smell it.
I don't think I'll ever settle until either LTE is in my market, or the wife steals the GSII from me.
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the extra .2" makes a difference
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That's what she said. Sorry I just had to.
OMG...
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I beg to differ. There are a few things i dislike about the skyrocket, but they are not enough to send me back the SGS2.
1. The screen is crap. The extra .2" is nice, but the color calibration and the line/blob issue makes everything look terrible. Compare the skyrocket to an SGS2 or an Infuse and you will see exactly what i'm talking about.
2. I'm not a big fan of the rounded corners on the Skyrocket. I wish samsung would had made the phone similar to the infuse with different internals. Also, I wish the battery cover was a textured finish. The smooth finish IMHO feels cheap.
3. Developer support. The sgs2 is virtually the same exact phone as the european version and that means it gets the latest roms quicker. It is something i definitely miss after moving to the skyrocket.
The reason I won't go back to the SGS2 is I want LTE. But I do agree on the buttons on the SGS2. They are yellow and ugly.
Hopefully samsung will fix the skyrocket's screen defects and then I have no reservations in keeping it.
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Screen/color calibration has been beaten to death, give it a rest. If you got blobs, take it back and get it replaced. My SGSII had the lines issue, but AT&T was totally understanding when I was able to reproduce the problem. Then I took the leap because most of North Texas AT&T is LTE and went for the Skyrocket. I will NOT go back. The potential of a blisteringly fast phone is much more realistic with this phone, and I can wait for CM9 or MIUI or one of the others to show up to play with. And face it, that is what we are talking about.. PLAYING with the phone.This is my daily phone and I travel all over a four county region repairing computer hardware, and, the GPS in this under 2.3.6 syncs sooo much quicker than any other phones I have used. It just is not a contest PERIOD.
Give the devs a chance, be very nice if you even mention download location and alpha in the same sentence, and, be very grateful when they roll one out. If I had the time, I would love to try my hand at it, but, I really need to get up to speed on the basics first..
Or, if you are still in AT&T buyer's remorse program, you can always swap it for the 4s and a pink rhinestone incrusted case...
BTW: Does anyone really plan to use the phone without some sort of case protection? I just ordered the Otterbox and was told give them about another week and it will be out the door. The iMoshi washable screen protector is great, but, it is not exactly correct, and iMoshi is replacing it for free as soon as the next shipment with correct specs hits.
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BTW: Does anyone really plan to use the phone without some sort of case protection? I just ordered the Otterbox and was told give them about another week and it will be out the door. The iMoshi washable screen protector is great, but, it is not exactly correct, and iMoshi is replacing it for free as soon as the next shipment with correct specs hits.
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What is wrong with your Moshi screen protector, do you mean the circles not lining up? How are you getting Moshi to replace it? Did you buy it from their website or the att store? I have heard nothing about this.. lol
I had the Infuse and it frustrated the hell out of me. It seemed like it wanted to be a fast and functional phone, but it faceplanted daily. I moved to the HTC Vivid and I am not at all a Sense friend. It's a fast hone and has great features, but that seems like everything it can offer. I miss the screen on the Samsung phones already. What I really want to know is how well does the SR stand up to everyday use? I use Touchdown all day for work email, text a ton and use GPS daily as well. My kids watch movies on the phone when we travel and love to play games (shoot the apple is the latest.. try it!).
I don't care about a smooth back, it's getting cased. Is the camera as good as ppl say? How about the video? I've seen it skip and look choppy in some reviews when panning as cars drive by. Is it worth the 2yr extension? I've got 21 days left out of my 30 day return policy.
ROM wise, we wil get them, I've learned patience since I had my old Magic
Thought I would share my thoughts on the new gs2 after coming from the captivate for those thinking of upgrading.
Ok, So Ive been waiting for some time, impatiently, to upgrade to gs2, I do like waiting till phones are at or near free, so when I found out I could trade in my captivate at tartget for 60 bucks credit and get the gs2 in my hands right there for 40 more I jumped at it. 40 is cheap enough
So first thing I noticed was that screen seemed quite a bit more vivid. I mean the colors jump out at you. I love this screen. Coupled with gorilla glass, you just cant beat it. Retina what?
Next thing i realized, is I have small thumbs. This screen is a bit bigger, and i found it uncomfartable to reach much of the sceen with my not so flexable thumbs. I almost have to use 2 hands to use this phone. Not the phones fault, as Im sure those blessed with long nimble thumbs have no problem.
the phone is quite a bit faster than the captivate, but not so much that I want to do backflips or anything. Scrolling is mostly smooth, but I do still notice a stutter here and there. Games play perfectly, plenty of power for even the most demanding games like ShadowGun-as expected.
Phone call quality is decent. However, if you use your gs2 with a case, you may want to do some research before buying one. I bought a case day1. people kept telling me I sounded muffled, and there was an echo for them. I heard them just fine. So I started searching the internets and come to find out, its a common problem. A design flaw. When you remove the case all is fine. But with it on problem comes back. Some case are worse. some are better.
I am running a custom rom, however the Roms arent yet on par with captivate ones. On the positive side, you dont have to choose between Audience chip support or more features. However, there is no stock ics roms yet only ported with soft keys mapped to touchscreen as work around for missing support for them. The GB roms run great, but have less features than captivate roms such as exra lockscreens or extra extended power menu options.
I like the camera, but I cant seem to figure out how to zoom in. The rom Im running has modded the camera so that thevolume rocker takes picture.
Battery life for me has not been super great, but thats probably because I cant keep my hands off it.
Gps is one of the two main reasons i wanted to upgrade, and man I tell you it works 1000 times better than the captivate. I mean it actually works.
The other reason(excuse) for upgrading was the flash. It works very well. It boggles my mind that a phone can be such a good camera. And now I even have flash. Beautiful.
Not only is the flash useful for taking pics, but with a custom rom, I have a notification toggle to turn on the flash light to see in the dark and WOW is it bright.
Im definatly going to keep this thing. The positives way outnumber the negatives. Im really liking it especially the screen. For the hell of it I put an aquarium live walpaper on and the colors are so crisp and vivid I just sit there staring at it. I want to show every1, especially iphone users
I hope this review helps anyone thinking of making the switch.
Thanks I still have to wait till November to upgrade, by then I will be looking at the galaxy s 3!
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Thought I would share my thoughts on the new gs2 after coming from the captivate for those thinking of upgrading.
Ok, So Ive been waiting for some time, impatiently, to upgrade to gs2, I do like waiting till phones are at or near free, so when I found out I could trade in my captivate at tartget for 60 bucks credit and get the gs2 in my hands right there for 40 more I jumped at it. 40 is cheap enough
So first thing I noticed was that screen seemed quite a bit more vivid. I mean the colors jump out at you. I love this screen. Coupled with gorilla glass, you just cant beat it. Retina what?
Next thing i realized, is I have small thumbs. This screen is a bit bigger, and i found it uncomfartable to reach much of the sceen with my not so flexable thumbs. I almost have to use 2 hands to use this phone. Not the phones fault, as Im sure those blessed with long nimble thumbs have no problem.
the phone is quite a bit faster than the captivate, but not so much that I want to do backflips or anything. Scrolling is mostly smooth, but I do still notice a stutter here and there. Games play perfectly, plenty of power for even the most demanding games like ShadowGun-as expected.
Phone call quality is decent. However, if you use your gs2 with a case, you may want to do some research before buying one. I bought a case day1. people kept telling me I sounded muffled, and there was an echo for them. I heard them just fine. So I started searching the internets and come to find out, its a common problem. A design flaw. When you remove the case all is fine. But with it on problem comes back. Some case are worse. some are better.
I am running a custom rom, however the Roms arent yet on par with captivate ones. On the positive side, you dont have to choose between Audience chip support or more features. However, there is no stock ics roms yet only ported with soft keys mapped to touchscreen as work around for missing support for them. The GB roms run great, but have less features than captivate roms such as exra lockscreens or extra extended power menu options.
I like the camera, but I cant seem to figure out how to zoom in. The rom Im running has modded the camera so that thevolume rocker takes picture.
Battery life for me has not been super great, but thats probably because I cant keep my hands off it.
Gps is one of the two main reasons i wanted to upgrade, and man I tell you it works 1000 times better than the captivate. I mean it actually works.
The other reason(excuse) for upgrading was the flash. It works very well. It boggles my mind that a phone can be such a good camera. And now I even have flash. Beautiful.
Not only is the flash useful for taking pics, but with a custom rom, I have a notification toggle to turn on the flash light to see in the dark and WOW is it bright.
Im definatly going to keep this thing. The positives way outnumber the negatives. Im really liking it especially the screen. For the hell of it I put an aquarium live walpaper on and the colors are so crisp and vivid I just sit there staring at it. I want to show every1, especially iphone users
I hope this review helps anyone thinking of making the switch.
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I just got my sgs2 as well and I love it. It amazes me that the phone is barely wider than the captivate. Having a big hand, its easy for me to hold and use.
This is probably better to ask over there but what rom and modem did you use? I found kk6 people sound muffled but KH7 sounds great.
I picked up a TPU case for 10 bucks that fits the phone like a glove just like otter box on the captivate, only thing I had to do was widen the USB area so I can plug on USB cable easier. No issues with the mic and no complaints from callers.
Battery life has been superb for me. My captivate on cm9 with anker battery was the only way to compete. I get typically 3 hours of screen and two hours of calls before draining.
Pinch to zoom in the camera if your using a modded camera. Stock uses the volume rocker.
I love the sgs2, I was waiting for sgs3 announcement but I'm glad I got this phone in the mean time.
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you have to pinch to zoom on the screen when taking pictures to get it to zoom.
Ha! Thanks for the zoom tip! Awesome.
And I'm shostock ROM and beforeI found out that it was my case causing my issues, I flashed kh7 from kk6 no problems so far.
Using entropys latest kernel.
Funny thing is when I got the phone I decided I wasn't going to flash a ROM for at least a week just to see how stock feels. I didn't even make it 24 hours
One other thing to note that is obvious is that the back cover is not metal like on the captivate and there's no latching Mechanism like on the captivate. When the covers on it feels very sturdy no problems there. Taking it on and off , it feels a little bit cheap. It seems like it may wear out in time so if you're using an extra battery that may be a problem.
Rock out with your Shostock out
Great review! I am finally up for a new phone and was thinking of switching the the SGS2.
It's either the SGS2 or Asus Padfone (I'm really hoping this comes out for ATT).
Thanks to your review I will most likely get the SGS2 if the Padfone doesn't come out to ATT.
thanks for the review...id love an sgs2 but since i am with rogers canada they have the skyrocket....and from what ive read its not quite on par with the sgs2 from att/bell/telus. im either waiting on the sgs3 or maybe the razr maxx if rogers gets it.
heres hopin! rockin the cappy for a few more months anyway!
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Funny thing is when I got the phone I decided I wasn't going to flash a ROM for at least a week just to see how stock feels. I didn't even make it 24 hours
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I wanted to run stock when my phone first arrived just to get a feel for it... that lasted maybe 5 minutes before it was rooted and bloat removed. So I thought after that, I'll see how stock runs... 20 minutes later I was on SHOstock! Running UnOriginal last few days and it has been great!
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I wanted to run stock when my phone first arrived just to get a feel for it... that lasted maybe 5 minutes before it was rooted and bloat removed. So I thought after that, I'll see how stock runs... 20 minutes later I was on SHOstock! Running UnOriginal last few days and it has been great!
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I've been looking at unoriginal and ultimatum. Think I might try one. I like shostock, but I wish it had jkay mod
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I just got my SGS2 today, bought it from Ebay to replace my dear captivate... It's an amazing phone to say the least.
I'm really satisfied with my purchase, this phone flies and it's classy as heck.
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Agreed the sgs2 is an awesome phone. The captivate was great in its day and still is in my opinion. I have both and i must say the sgs2 picked up where the captivate was lacking in every aspect. The only thing i miss is the development is not yet mature like it is here. But it is getting better by the day.
One last thing, the sgs2 is durable. Mine has taken several hard drops and one dunk in the tub. Its sill alive an good as new.
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Get a protective case, man!
Get a protective case, man!
My Captivate fallen numerous times, I carry it in the pocket with my keys and it still looks like new.
I only have screen protector to avoid scratches.
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One last thing, the sgs2 is durable. Mine has taken several hard drops and one dunk in the tub. Its sill alive an good as new.
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Nice input... I'm upgrading in July and am torn between the note and the s2
Thanks for the review. Im actually up for an upgrade in less than a month. I am only considering the SGS2 (not the skyrocket). However, with the SGS3 seeming to be so close, is it worth it to wait for it? When it releases will we have to wait 4 months till ATT bakes their stuff in? I am torn between waiting for SGS3 and just flashing ICS on my cappy or just going for the SGS2
ICS kernel source dropped for the i9100 this morning so more roms for the SGS2 should be out soon in ICS flavor. Plus we have expanded and have two different forums for development now, Original development and ported development. Original is for roms created from stock source and ported for anything hellraised or ported manually from a i9100. The i9100 international version and i777 att SGS2 are even closer related than the comparison between i9000 and i897. With the hell raiser from Entropy ANYONE can easily port a i9100 Rom onto a i777.
Now onto whether to wait for the SGS3 is a question only each individual can answer. But the SGS2 is a very kickass phone and wont disappoint. It has everything our cappies were missing plus any/most all roms are super stable and speeds even at the stock 1.2 seem faster and smoother than my cappy at 1.2, 1.4, or 1.6ghz. Just a well made phone with great battery life, great camera, cannot think of one thing that really is bad. Oh ha gps works great too.
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I had been wanting to upgrade to the SGS2 for a long time now (since it first came out on Rogers), but my next upgrade won't be until this November.
Should be plenty of time for Rogers to get the SGS3, right?
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I work right next door to a rogers store. If I hear word of the sgIII. You'll be seeing a post here. I would consider the switch. For now the captivate has been an incredible phone.
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Thanks for the review. Im actually up for an upgrade in less than a month. I am only considering the SGS2 (not the skyrocket). However, with the SGS3 seeming to be so close, is it worth it to wait for it? When it releases will we have to wait 4 months till ATT bakes their stuff in? I am torn between waiting for SGS3 and just flashing ICS on my cappy or just going for the SGS2
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Ok well here's my advice (take it with a grain of salt if you will but this is what I would do if I was in your shoes):
Install CM9 on my Cappy w/ Glitch B5 and overclock it to 1.4Ghz. Then I'd just hold it out until the GS3 comes out.
Problem solved! Patience is a virtue, my friend
In case anyone's planning on giving up on the GS3 and go with the 2, AT&T has them for $9.99 now... personally, I'm planning on waiting it out a bit and see what comes available in the next couple of months. Should be completely out of my contact by then and will be able to switch carriers if there's a better deal to be had somewhere else.
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