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HTC HD2 UK Release on US 3g

Topic 1:
I've been searching and doing some research over the past few days, but I'm still learning. I contacted eXpansis about purchasing a HD2 on release and asked them if it would work on a the us 3g (at&t) system. They promptly said no. This is where my confusion sets in. In reviewing the bands that are supported by the phone:
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It shows the bands that at&t uses for 3g 850 and 1900. But in the specs listed in the screenie the 850 and 1900 are listed under GSM, What I need is the 850 and 1900 bands listed under HSPA/WCDMA correct? So the phone would function for voice calls etc, but data would be null or extremely limited correct?
Also this is a hardware requirement, not rom upgradable?
Topic 2: I may start a new thread for this as others have probably gone before me.
It seems the HD2 is destined for TMOUSA in q1 of 2010. Can I port this phone to at&t services? This would require the sim unlock,SPL (not sure what this is) unlock and a radio rom flash?
Thanks for putting up with my questions, it's making me loose my hair even faster.

crackmonke said:
Topic 1:
I've been searching and doing some research over the past few days, but I'm still learning. I contacted eXpansis about purchasing a HD2 on release and asked them if it would work on a the us 3g (at&t) system. They promptly said no. This is where my confusion sets in. In reviewing the bands that are supported by the phone:
It shows the bands that at&t uses for 3g 850 and 1900. But in the specs listed in the screenie the 850 and 1900 are listed under GSM, What I need is the 850 and 1900 bands listed under HSPA/WCDMA correct? So the phone would function for voice calls etc, but data would be null or extremely limited correct?
Also this is a hardware requirement, not rom upgradable?
Topic 2: I may start a new thread for this as others have probably gone before me.
It seems the HD2 is destined for TMOUSA in q1 of 2010. Can I port this phone to at&t services? This would require the sim unlock,SPL (not sure what this is) unlock and a radio rom flash?
Thanks for putting up with my questions, it's making me loose my hair even faster.
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First: the unlocked HD2 will still get AT&T data on EDGE speeds. that's what the GSM is. it'll pick up EDGE on all 4 of those bands. you're right, you need the 850/1900 bands under the HSPA/WCDMA bands. so therefore, the Euro unlocked HD2 won't get 3G on AT&T's network here.
Second: you could get the phone unlocked from T-MO USA, and you'd only have to SIM unlock it. it's your choice if you wanna flash a HARD SPL and a new radio and ROM. all you need to do in order to use it on AT&T's network is get it SIM unlocked. but you still won't get 3G on AT&T, since T-Mo and AT&T use different 3G bands.

Excellent reply. I was able to find this other post which helped, but definately not as much as your reply. Thank you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=568613
So on to the second plan since plan one is out, and the second plan is limited , damn so plan 3? ha...I need 3g+ for tethering. I'm concerned with T-MO USA because I have never used them. After reviewing the coverage information over at GSM World,
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.shtml
TMOUSA shows no 3g, only GSM 1900, where at&t mobility show 3G 850/1900. So 3g is possible over GSM1900? I'm seeing a max rate of 9.6kbits/s on GSM can this be correct? Are faster speeds available?

crackmonke said:
Excellent reply. I was able to find this other post which helped, but definately not as much as your reply. Thank you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=568613
So on to the second plan since plan one is out, and the second plan is limited , damn so plan 3? ha...I need 3g+ for tethering. I'm concerned with T-MO USA because I have never used them. After reviewing the coverage information over at GSM World,
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.shtml
TMOUSA shows no 3g, only GSM 1900, where at&t mobility show 3G 850/1900. So 3g is possible over GSM1900? I'm seeing a max rate of 9.6kbits/s on GSM can this be correct? Are faster speeds available?
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I'm not too familiar with the exact speeds, but I know that EDGE speeds definitely won't be fast enough for tethering. the main reason why I wouldn't go to T-MO is because of their lack of 3G coverage.
and yes, 3G is possible over the 1900 bandwidth. T-Mo uses the 2100 band, but only because that was the only band available to them when they opened their 3G network. T-MO USA is was the last major US carrier to adopt 3G, and are therefore way behind in their development of it. while AT&T, Sprint and VZW are already beginning to develop their 4G networks, T-Mo is still trying to broaden their 3G coverage

poppinpengawen said:
I'm not too familiar with the exact speeds, but I know that EDGE speeds definitely won't be fast enough for tethering. the main reason why I wouldn't go to T-MO is because of their lack of 3G coverage.
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Well frak me with a wooden spoon. at&t will never get the hd2. Too much iphone up the a$$ne$$. I guess I'm going to end up with the TP2 with sense on it, damn it seems so dated already.
Poppin, thank for the help, and guidance.

crackmonke said:
Well frak me with a wooden spoon. at&t will never get the hd2. Too much iphone up the a$$ne$$. I guess I'm going to end up with the TP2 with sense on it, damn it seems so dated already.
Poppin, thank for the help, and guidance.
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hey man don't worry about it. and it's not really for sure that AT&T won't get it. they lose exclusive rights to the iPhone next year (I think. could be 2011 too tho...) but there's always a chance that they could pick up the HD2. I didn't jump the AT&T ship for the tp2, but if AT&T doesn't get it then I might actually leave.

Ok new information, I've got the TP2 for at&t ready for purchase on sunday, but I just found this information. Could someone take a look at it for me? It looks like the 3 bands
HD2 info from phone arena:
Network Type GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS dual-band European/Asian 3G (900/2100 MHz)
Tilt2 band information from At&t official site:
Wireless Technology
GSM/GPRS850/900/1800/1900 MHz 3G850/1900/2100 MHz EDGE high speed data networkBLUETOOTH® technology2.1
Do you see where the 2100 mhz bands match up? Is the difference the UMTS vs 3g? Are they not the same technology?

crackmonke said:
Ok new information, I've got the TP2 for at&t ready for purchase on sunday, but I just found this information. Could someone take a look at it for me? It looks like the 3 bands
HD2 info from phone arena:
Network Type GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS dual-band European/Asian 3G (900/2100 MHz)
Tilt2 band information from At&t official site:
Wireless Technology
GSM/GPRS850/900/1800/1900 MHz 3G850/1900/2100 MHz EDGE high speed data networkBLUETOOTH® technology2.1
Do you see where the 2100 mhz bands match up? Is the difference the UMTS vs 3g? Are they not the same technology?
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you're right, UMTS and 3G are the same thing. UMTS is basically normal 3G, while HSDPA is actually more along the lines of 3.5G.
I'm not too sure about what you're asking, but if you're wondering if, since the AT&T Tilt2 utilizes tri-band UMTS (850/1900/2100), will the HD2 be able to run AT&T's 3G, then the answer, sadly, is no. this is simply because AT&T does not use the 2100 band, only the 850/1900 bands. the reason they usually make their phones with tri-band 3G frequencies is so that their subscribers can get some 3G coverage when they travel abroad (whether it's to another state or out of the country.) adding another 3G band allows their subscribers to have more 3G coverage, particularly if they travel out of the country. it all depends on whether the state/country they go to utilizes the 2100 band.
whew, that was a bit of typing. hope I was of some help.

poppinpengawen said:
...will the HD2 be able to run AT&T's 3G, then the answer, sadly, is no...
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Neither by flashing the proper ROM? Is that a hardware limitation?

pckshd said:
Neither by flashing the proper ROM? Is that a hardware limitation?
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rom won't help, since it's a hardware antenna (and software) limitation.

HTC Sensation 3G 850/1900!

Vodafone has a HTC Sensation for sale and lists the 3G MHz has 850/1900/2100
I would like to purchase the HTC Sensation but want to know if this is a typo.
If I purchase this phone from vodafone do you think it will be possible to unlock it? I've been looking for a new phone with 3G that will work on ATT.
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phone/htc-sensation

its unlock already

west2cool said:
its unlock already
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Yep! They're SIM free.

I think their website is wrong. If you watch some of the unboxing videos for the Vodafone Sensation, the box lists AWS and not 1900. I have only the videos to go by though. Wait for the T–mobile US version to come out though. It may have the right frequencies for AT&T, or so I've heard.

Paten said:
I think their website is wrong. If you watch some of the unboxing videos for the Vodafone Sensation, the box lists AWS and not 1900. I have only the videos to go by though. Wait for the T–mobile US version to come out though. It may have the right frequencies for AT&T, or so I've heard.
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Where have you heard the TMO US Sensation will have 850 3G?

samnada said:
Where have you heard the TMO US Sensation will have 850 3G?
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I have a t-mobile (US) version, however it came in a generic box. Is there a way to tell what frequencies it supports?

Looking at the Gallery for an article at TmoNews, a picture of the box showed the frequencies available on the Sensation 4G.
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/t-mobile-branded-htc-sensation-4g-in-the-wild/
The box shows UMTS frequencies are 1700, 2100 and 1900. Isn't 1900 AT&T?
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AT&T uses 850 and 1900 3G. Unless the TMO US Sensation has 850 it won't fly 3G on AT&t.

Walkamo said:
I have a t-mobile (US) version, however it came in a generic box. Is there a way to tell what frequencies it supports?
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There are some special codes you can dial to display service menus that include the frequencies in use. Don't know them for HTC. Some Googling might turn up the answer.

It was my understanding that you can use 850 or 1900 for 3G on AT&T but didn't necessarily have to have both. But this is just something I vaguely remember hearing somewhere and don't have any personal experience to back it up.

Paten said:
It was my understanding that you can use 850 or 1900 for 3G on AT&T but didn't necessarily have to have both. But this is just something I vaguely remember hearing somewhere and don't have any personal experience to back it up.
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Yeah you don't need both. I used to rock a phone with only 1900, but you only get 3g in some areas and not others. And if I remember correctly att was/is actively moving all 3g onto the 850 band, so really I think the 850 band is more important of the two. Really did suck when everyone else had 3g and I was on edge because it was a 850 zone for 3g.

kaiserkannon said:
Yeah you don't need both. I used to rock a phone with only 1900, but you only get 3g in some areas and not others. And if I remember correctly att was/is actively moving all 3g onto the 850 band, so really I think the 850 band is more important of the two. Really did suck when everyone else had 3g and I was on edge because it was a 850 zone for 3g.
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That's my understanding as well, 850 and 1900 currently required on ATT to get 3G everywhere.

Walkamo said:
I have a t-mobile (US) version, however it came in a generic box. Is there a way to tell what frequencies it supports?
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How did you get at US version Sensation, if I may ask?

Paten said:
I think their website is wrong. If you watch some of the unboxing videos for the Vodafone Sensation, the box lists AWS and not 1900. I have only the videos to go by though. Wait for the T–mobile US version to come out though. It may have the right frequencies for AT&T, or so I've heard.
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What is AWS? I assume its not a code name for 850 lol

milestonedude said:
What is AWS? I assume its not a code name for 850 lol
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AWS advanced wireless services 1700

If some one needs sensation with 850/2100 for 3G, will have to wait till sensation is released for canada ( Rogers/telus/bell) . however it does not look near

drgopoos said:
If some one needs sensation with 850/2100 for 3G, will have to wait till sensation is released for canada ( Rogers/telus/bell) . however it does not look near
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Never, ever, EVER look forward to a Canadian release. We get **** MONTHS after the UK and US if we're lucky!!!
When it comes to new phones, just keep the word "Canada" out of the discussion unless you're emo and look forward to disappointment lol. The thought of acquiring a Canadian version of the Sensation never even crossed my mind. All my phones have always been imported.
The only thing I use carrier upgrades for with my actual service here is so I can sell the phone which makes the most money so I can import a new one. The wireless industry in Canada is way behind even the poorest third world nations.
/rant

unfortuantely there is no other place that has 850 spectrum for 3g

drgopoos said:
unfortuantely there is no other place that has 850 spectrum for 3g
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Isn't the Vodafone UK version UTMS/HSPA 850/1900/2100?

drgopoos said:
unfortuantely there is no other place that has 850 spectrum for 3g
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Not quite true if this listing is accurate:
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
But it certainly is limited.

European Sensation works on USA T-Mobile?

On the Engadget Mobile podcast this weekend, Myriam stated that the European Sensation works on T-Mobile USA 3G.
Is this true?
Looking at the bands, that is not correct...
Is she mistaken?

Paul22000 said:
On the Engadget Mobile podcast this weekend, Myriam stated that the European Sensation works on T-Mobile USA 3G.
Is this true?
Looking at the bands, that is not correct...
Is she mistaken?
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According to these published specs it may be true:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/sensation/specification.html
Network (5)
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia/T-Mobile US: 900/AWS/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
5. Network bands in regions other than Europe and Asia Pacific may be different, depending on the mobile operator and your location. Please check with your mobile operator.
What's not perfectly clear is whether the European models actually include AWS. Given the recent fiasco with the G2x we won't really know until someone actually tries it.

Well, Myriam tried it and it works. What else do you need?

Paten said:
Well, Myriam tried it and it works. What else do you need?
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Didn't know that. Based my comment on the OP question, which implied it hadn't been tested.

Peter Rojas at gdgt.com is also testing the European HTC Sensation and he said he is getting HSPA speeds on his T-mobile sim.
http://gdgt.com/discuss/got-the-htc-sensation-any-questions-about-it-dkf/

samnada is right, HTC put the AWS frequencies in all versions of the Sensation
I've never listened to the engadget mobile podcast before. that does not sound like a girls voice.

Peter Rojas also said that his AT&T SIM is only giving him EDGE. I was hoping the international version would also have the 1900 MHz band at the least (like the Tmo Vibrant).

xnifex said:
I've never listened to the engadget mobile podcast before. that does not sound like a girls voice.
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Engadget bio describes her as a "tomboy".
http://www.engadget.com/editor/myriam-joire

Paten said:
Well, Myriam tried it and it works. What else do you need?
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I thought she may have misspoken or perhaps it's only on Edge and she didn't realize.
I just wanted to make sure because I thought T-Mobile needed 1700 MHz which isn't on the list of supported frequencies.

xnifex said:
I've never listened to the engadget mobile podcast before. that does not sound like a girls voice.
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Yes Myriam is a female. Though check out samnada's link and you'll see why she doesn't sound like you might expect. She sometimes speaks about her "spouse" on the show as well, without saying husband etc.

Paten said:
Peter Rojas at gdgt.com is also testing the European HTC Sensation and he said he is getting HSPA speeds on his T-mobile sim.
http://gdgt.com/discuss/got-the-htc-sensation-any-questions-about-it-dkf/
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Thanks for the link.
So then is there any reason to wait for the Sensation to be released in the US if we just want to buy it outright?
Or will the two devices be exactly the same with just different packaging?
(For example, what about the charger cable -- will it be a European plug?)

Paul22000 said:
I thought she may have misspoken or perhaps it's only on Edge and she didn't realize.
I just wanted to make sure because I thought T-Mobile needed 1700 MHz which isn't on the list of supported frequencies.
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TMO AWS uses 1700/2100. So, it actually is listed, just in the shorthand notation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Wireless_Services

Paul22000 said:
Thanks for the link.
So then is there any reason to wait for the Sensation to be released in the US if we just want to buy it outright?
Or will the two devices be exactly the same with just different packaging?
(For example, what about the charger cable -- will it be a European plug?)
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My biggest hesitation is wanting a US warranty. I'd rather wait another week to get that. I would expect the charger to have a European plug, but adapters are dirt cheap, so not a big deal on that.

Paul22000 said:
Thanks for the link.
So then is there any reason to wait for the Sensation to be released in the US if we just want to buy it outright?
Or will the two devices be exactly the same with just different packaging?
(For example, what about the charger cable -- will it be a European plug?)
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If you don't mind paying the extra couple of hundred dollars to buy the imported European model, then go ahead and buy it now. I think it might be worth saving your money and just buying it from T-mobile when it comes out next week.

GSMArena has GSM 850/900/1800/1900 and HSDPA 900/2100 on the European Sensation and GSM 850/900/1800/1900 and HSDPA 900/1700/2100 on the 4G.
HTC Sensation --> http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation-3875.php
HTC Sensation 4G --> http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation_4g-3922.php

giorgisp said:
GSMArena has GSM 850/900/1800/1900 and HSDPA 900/2100 on the European Sensation and GSM 850/900/1800/1900 and HSDPA 900/1700/2100 on the 4G.[/url]
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Why go to gsmarena when htc has it listed on both their worldwide & uk sites as:
Network
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia/T-Mobile US: 900/AWS/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
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http://www.htc.com/www/product/sensation/specification.html
uk
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/sensation/specification.html

This unboxing video shows the specs on the box of the European HTC Sensation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqM2lZqivds
It shows the HSPA/WCDMA 900/AWS/2100 Mhz frequencies.
This image from TmoNews shows the specs for the HTC Sensation 4G on the back of the box.
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It shows UMTS 1700,2100,1900
So I believe GSMArena is mistaken with their posted specs for these phones.

Paten said:
This unboxing video shows the specs on the box of the European HTC Sensation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqM2lZqivds
It shows the HSPA/WCDMA 900/AWS/2100 Mhz frequencies.
This image from TmoNews shows the specs for the HTC Sensation 4G on the back of the box.
It shows UMTS 1700,2100,1900
So I believe GSMArena is mistaken with their posted specs for these phones.
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Whoa, wait a tick. Is that right? UTMS 1900 MHz? Is that the US Tmo version? If so, it should work on AT&T's 3G for those who have coverage in that band. Chicago certainly does. This is why the Vibrant works on AT&T's 3G.

It is the box for the Sensation 4G. As far as I know T-Mobile US is the only company calling it that. According to what the box says, it should work on AT&T's 1900MHz band for 3G once the phone is carrier unlocked. If the box has bad information on it, then it might not work. Once the phone is actually released and tested, hopefully we will know for sure at that point.

On the previous page it states someone tried an ATT sin card and only got edge.
Sent From My Rooted HTC Glacier- It Just Makes SENSE

[Q] Will the Unlocked One S support T-Mobile AWS?

From what I've read, I believe the answer is "close but no cigar." Am I right? Or should we expect this device to work pretty well at grabbing onto HSDPA signals, but with a little higher battery drain, since the radio would have to work harder?
I have been considering pre-ordering an unlocked, black HTC One S (MAO model) from either Negri Electronics or Expansys, but I don't want to waste my time & money if this phone is, quite literally, a non-starter on the T-Mobile US network.
I'm a former CDMA subscriber and I've only been with TMo for 8-9 months. This would also be my first unlocked phone purchase, so thanks in advance for any insight you guys can offer.

I'm just going to wait and buy it from T-Mobile. Yeah I'll pay full retail but I'll sell my old phone to cover most of the cost; that's kind of how I do my upgrades! I just don't want to worry about it not working. I think it needs 1700 and 2100 bands for 3G/4G to work.

@unclespoon - I hear you, but I'm interested in the black model, which is "micro arc oxidized." I understand that TMoUS is only selling the gradient anodized model. We shall see.
Anyone else with an idea about the likely performance of that unlocked international model on TMo AWS?

Here's the answer to my question from Myriam Joire (@tnkgrl) of @Engadget, via Twitter:
"@malcontent510 the Euro version won't. The US version will. Both are tri-band, one without AWS."​

malcontent510 said:
Here's the answer to my question from Myriam Joire (@tnkgrl) of @Engadget, via Twitter:
"@malcontent510 the Euro version won't. The US version will. Both are tri-band, one without AWS."​
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I don't see any reason why the International version will not support AWS band. Both phones have the same qualcomm chip.
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NardVa said:
I don't see any reason why the International version will not support AWS band. Both phones have the same qualcomm chip.
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it would be silly. The only difference should be the tmobile branding and bloatware. I thought the idea of only three models is to reduce the number of phones you have out there.

TWO different models of the One S: PJ40110 / PJ58100
I am hoping that there is no difference, but I was just quoting what Myriam from Engadget told me. I have since learned on Wikipedia that T-Mobile's HSDPA frequencies (namely "1700 MHz/2100 MHz UMTS AWS") are not specifically listed as covered by the antenna in the international version. The appropriate frequencies may, in fact still be covered, but according to both Negri Electronics and GSM Arena, the unlocked international version does not list them.
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100​
I hope this is either not the case or not a show-stopper.
Edit: I now see a 3/12/2012 article from Engadget which indicates there are actually TWO distinctly different ONE S models:
HTC PJ40110
HTC PJ58100
WTF?

So if I buy a One S from the UK, will I only get edge? Or 3G? Thanks! Hoping to buy this phone in December when I'm due for an upgrade
Sent from my Sense 3.6 Glacier using XDA Premium.

@invasion2 - that is what I've been asking and which seems to remain an open question. Other than Myriam's tweet (above), no one has attempted to directly answer that question.
HTC Sensation / Tapatalk / Oakland

malcontent510 said:
@unclespoon - I hear you, but I'm interested in the black model, which is "micro arc oxidized." I understand that TMoUS is only selling the gradient anodized model. We shall see.
Anyone else with an idea about the likely performance of that unlocked international model on TMo AWS?
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Ok, sorry for going off topic a tad here but, can you (malcontent510 or anyone who knows of this) link your source for that info...for if it is true then I now have to go back to the drawing board for my idea on which phone I will be getting soon.

malcontent510 said:
@unclespoon - I hear you, but I'm interested in the black model, which is "micro arc oxidized." I understand that TMoUS is only selling the gradient anodized model. We shall see.
Anyone else with an idea about the likely performance of that unlocked international model on TMo AWS?
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kaeruil said:
Ok, sorry for going off topic a tad here but, can you (malcontent510 or anyone who knows of this) link your source for that info...for if it is true then I now have to go back to the drawing board for my idea on which phone I will be getting soon.
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@kaeruil - I based my assumption on the HTC website, here:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htcones-tmobile
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FWIW, I also refer you to the gradient anodized model which was featured in the leaked video of 3/27/2012 from a YouTube poster who said his unbranded [pre-release] phone was a T-Mobile model.

malcontent510 said:
@invasion2 - that is what I've been asking and which seems to remain an open question. Other than Myriam's tweet (above), no one has attempted to directly answer that question.
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Haha thanks. Don't know why no one is answering
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@malcontent510 - thanks, now that you pointed it out, don't know how I didn't notice that...guess I need some new glasses as well as a new cell

malcontent510 said:
I am hoping that there is no difference, but I was just quoting what Myriam from Engadget told me. I have since learned on Wikipedia that T-Mobile's HSDPA frequencies (namely "1700 MHz/2100 MHz UMTS AWS") are not specifically listed as covered by the antenna in the international version. The appropriate frequencies may, in fact still be covered, but according to both Negri Electronics and GSM Arena, the unlocked international version does not list them.
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100​
I hope this is either not the case or not a show-stopper.
Edit: I now see a 3/12/2012 article from Engadget which indicates there are actually TWO distinctly different ONE S models:
HTC PJ40110
HTC PJ58100
WTF?
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The version the clove is selling does support them http://www.clove.co.uk/htc-one-s

TramainM said:
The version the clove is selling does support them http://www.clove.co.uk/htc-one-s
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No. Unfortunately, the international model (including the one mentioned above) sold by Clove does not cover the 1700MHz frequency -- the TMobile US AWS frequency. The end result being that this phone would not support HSPA on TMo.

OK sorry for being off topic, but I'm a bit confused. The One S will or will not support SD/SIM Cards? Because isn't the SD/SIM your phone number? That confuses me. And is there even a difference between SD and SIMs? Thanks! Again, sorry for the off topic. If you want me to I will create my own topic.

So. I may be leaving Sprint and my Evo 3D behind to go to T-mo. I was planning on grabbing an unlocked ONE S. I am not experienced with unlocked gsm phones coming from Sprint and all...
Expansys shows 850/900/1900/2100.
If I understand correctly, t mobile 3g is on the 1700 band. 4g is on the 1900 band. So we would get 4g (hspa+) but not any 3g...
I was planning on the gradient metal version. I don't want to get stuck with a ceramic blue version from T-MOBILE...
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invasion2 said:
OK sorry for being off topic, but I'm a bit confused. The One S will or will not support SD/SIM Cards? Because isn't the SD/SIM your phone number? That confuses me. And is there even a difference between SD and SIMs? Thanks! Again, sorry for the off topic. If you want me to I will create my own topic.
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SIM and SD is not the same thing at all. SD cards (in this case micro SD) are for storage.
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malcontent510 said:
No. Unfortunately, the international model (including the one mentioned above) sold by Clove does not cover the 1700MHz frequency -- the TMobile US AWS frequency. The end result being that this phone would not support HSPA on TMo.
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That's interesting considering the international model and US model carry the same Qualcomm chip. In theory both phones should support the same bands.
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Just got off phone with expansys, they confirmed that it is NOT compatible with T-MOBILE 3G.
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[Q] No HSDPA 900mhz on Evita

Hi everyone!
I just buy a HTC One XL (Gray model) 16gb. The specs says this phone supports HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 but my carrier (DIGITEL Venezuela) is 900 and the phone only works in 2G.
Another important issue (i think) is when i go to the testing area (*#*#4636#*#*), in phone information, when i go to the menu and select select radio band there is only 2 options, automatic and USA Bands. (probabilly i need JAPAN Bands o Europe Bands)
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Any have this problem? A radio update can solve my problem (i use ATT, Telstra and Vodafone Radios,but without luck)?
I search the forum, but i cannot find any thread with this same issue.

alexyomar said:
Hi everyone!
I just buy a HTC One XL (Gray model) 16gb. The specs says this phone supports HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 but my carrier (DIGITEL Venezuela) is 900 and the phone only works in 2G.
Another important issue (i think) is when i go to the testing area (*#*#4636#*#*), in phone information, when i go to the menu and select select radio band there is only 2 options, automatic and USA Bands. (probabilly i need JAPAN Bands o Europe Bands)
Any have this problem? A radio update can solve my problem (i use ATT, Telstra and Vodafone Radios,but without luck)?
I search the forum, but i cannot find any thread with this same issue.
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Did you happen to buy the at&t version? If so, that might be why, because the at&t version only supports 850/1900/2100 for HSDPA. You can see the differences in their spec sheets.
HTC One XL
AT&T One X
If you didn't buy the at&t variant, it might just be a case of having the wrong APN settings entered in the device.
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timmaaa said:
Did you happen to buy the at&t version? If so, that might be why, because the at&t version only supports 850/1900/2100 for HSDPA. You can see the differences in their spec sheets.
HTC One XL
AT&T One X
If you didn't buy the at&t variant, it might just be a case of having the wrong APN settings entered in the device.
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Thanks for reply timmaaa.
How I can identify the model? In the box say HTC One XL. This might be help:

alexyomar said:
Thanks for reply timmaaa.
How I can identify the model? In the box say HTC One XL. This might be help:
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It isn't the at&t model, those have the at&t logo above the display instead of the HTC logo. I'd triple check your APN settings, call your carrier and make sure they're correct, and make sure they do use the right frequency.
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timmaaa said:
It isn't the at&t model, those have the at&t logo above the display instead son. the HTC logo. I'd triple check your APN settings, call your carrier and make sure they're correct, and make sure they do use the right frequency.
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I've checked APN settings. That not the problem. Before this phone, I use a Optimus 2x (works in 900 edge/hdspa) and took the APN settings from here.
I'm pretty sure is a radio issue.

I don't think the radio is the problem, the radio just makes use of the hardware, regardless of the carrier. For example, I can use an at&t radio and get great LTE speeds even though at&t use entirely different frequencies than my carrier.
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Well... if you see my first post, I can't have a option to select a radio different than USA Band, and my phone suppose is the international version.
if not a radio problem, is a hardware problem?
I test with another carrier (movistar 850mhz) and works in 2g and 3g
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That's normal, see my screenshot, I have the same options.
The difference being that the frequencies aren't listed for you. Have you contacted your carrier yet?
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Yes, i spoke with a support guy and he give me the same APN and the bands supported by the carrier (900 GSM/UTMS and 1800 LTE)
I feel stuck now...
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I personally think it's an issue at your carrier's end.
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timmaaa said:
I personally think it's an issue at your carrier's end.
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It's a issue in this particular phone? Could be a problem with the range of the band?
I have my old phone (LG Optimus 2x) and works in this band with this same carrier with the same simcard.

I really don't know then, short of the phone actually being the at&t model but having a retro-fitted standard case I'm out of ideas.
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