Hi everyone!
I just buy a HTC One XL (Gray model) 16gb. The specs says this phone supports HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 but my carrier (DIGITEL Venezuela) is 900 and the phone only works in 2G.
Another important issue (i think) is when i go to the testing area (*#*#4636#*#*), in phone information, when i go to the menu and select select radio band there is only 2 options, automatic and USA Bands. (probabilly i need JAPAN Bands o Europe Bands)
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Any have this problem? A radio update can solve my problem (i use ATT, Telstra and Vodafone Radios,but without luck)?
I search the forum, but i cannot find any thread with this same issue.
alexyomar said:
Hi everyone!
I just buy a HTC One XL (Gray model) 16gb. The specs says this phone supports HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 but my carrier (DIGITEL Venezuela) is 900 and the phone only works in 2G.
Another important issue (i think) is when i go to the testing area (*#*#4636#*#*), in phone information, when i go to the menu and select select radio band there is only 2 options, automatic and USA Bands. (probabilly i need JAPAN Bands o Europe Bands)
Any have this problem? A radio update can solve my problem (i use ATT, Telstra and Vodafone Radios,but without luck)?
I search the forum, but i cannot find any thread with this same issue.
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Did you happen to buy the at&t version? If so, that might be why, because the at&t version only supports 850/1900/2100 for HSDPA. You can see the differences in their spec sheets.
HTC One XL
AT&T One X
If you didn't buy the at&t variant, it might just be a case of having the wrong APN settings entered in the device.
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timmaaa said:
Did you happen to buy the at&t version? If so, that might be why, because the at&t version only supports 850/1900/2100 for HSDPA. You can see the differences in their spec sheets.
HTC One XL
AT&T One X
If you didn't buy the at&t variant, it might just be a case of having the wrong APN settings entered in the device.
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Thanks for reply timmaaa.
How I can identify the model? In the box say HTC One XL. This might be help:
alexyomar said:
Thanks for reply timmaaa.
How I can identify the model? In the box say HTC One XL. This might be help:
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It isn't the at&t model, those have the at&t logo above the display instead of the HTC logo. I'd triple check your APN settings, call your carrier and make sure they're correct, and make sure they do use the right frequency.
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timmaaa said:
It isn't the at&t model, those have the at&t logo above the display instead son. the HTC logo. I'd triple check your APN settings, call your carrier and make sure they're correct, and make sure they do use the right frequency.
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I've checked APN settings. That not the problem. Before this phone, I use a Optimus 2x (works in 900 edge/hdspa) and took the APN settings from here.
I'm pretty sure is a radio issue.
I don't think the radio is the problem, the radio just makes use of the hardware, regardless of the carrier. For example, I can use an at&t radio and get great LTE speeds even though at&t use entirely different frequencies than my carrier.
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Well... if you see my first post, I can't have a option to select a radio different than USA Band, and my phone suppose is the international version.
if not a radio problem, is a hardware problem?
I test with another carrier (movistar 850mhz) and works in 2g and 3g
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That's normal, see my screenshot, I have the same options.
The difference being that the frequencies aren't listed for you. Have you contacted your carrier yet?
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Yes, i spoke with a support guy and he give me the same APN and the bands supported by the carrier (900 GSM/UTMS and 1800 LTE)
I feel stuck now...
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I personally think it's an issue at your carrier's end.
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I personally think it's an issue at your carrier's end.
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It's a issue in this particular phone? Could be a problem with the range of the band?
I have my old phone (LG Optimus 2x) and works in this band with this same carrier with the same simcard.
I really don't know then, short of the phone actually being the at&t model but having a retro-fitted standard case I'm out of ideas.
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Ill keep this short. There has been a lot of talk lately about tmo lying about the AT&T bands however I am here to prove that our phones are setup and enabled for AT&T . The option to enable is hidden. See below for proof.
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Suwheeeet! Thanks for posting this flak0
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Ill keep this short. There has been a lot of talk lately about tmo lying about the AT&T bands however I am here to prove that our phones are setup and enabled for AT&T . The option to enable is hidden. See below for proof.
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not so sweet. this is the fifth time this hidden menu method has been brought up in this forum. The rest are in the original thread regarding the lack of non AWS band support. THIS DOES NOT WORK. At least for now, until someone awesome makes it work.
People have been bringing this up over and over again.
Prove it by popping in an AT&T SIM in an unlocked G2x. If it does not work, then there is a lot more to it than a band selection window.
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not so sweet. this is the fifth time this hidden menu method has been brought up in this forum. The rest are in the original thread regarding the lack of non AWS band support. THIS DOES NOT WORK. At least for now, until someone awesome makes it work.
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My question is has anyone sim unlocked their g2x and attempted this ? Also *#*#4636#*#* should do the same under phone info
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Yes, a number of people have tried it and no go. The belief is that the bands are there but the radios may not even be able to see them or they are simply locked down and can be enabled. I have run into both those scenarios in the past. Whether the lock down comes from AT&T or from T-mo is unknown to my knowledge.
After more poking around the Hidden Menu, WCDMA doesn't seem to be supported for AT&T. Thoughts?
I'm unlocked and on AT&T now but only on 2G.
Guys, this is easy...
THE RADIO DOES NOT SUPPORT UMTS 850/1900 RIGHT NOW!
I can think of several examples (Atrix, Captivate, Inspire "4g") of phones that operate / are supposed to operate at certain speeds or frequencies. They can say on the box that it supports these bands because the hardware is capable of it... we just need the right radio / baseband image.
EG: My captivate gets about ~2mbps down / 1.5 up because I have a different radio image. I think it's the same thing we're looking at here.
RMGeren said:
Guys, this is easy...
THE RADIO DOES NOT SUPPORT UMTS 850/1900 RIGHT NOW!
I can think of several examples (Atrix, Captivate, Inspire "4g") of phones that operate / are supposed to operate at certain speeds or frequencies. They can say on the box that it supports these bands because the hardware is capable of it... we just need the right radio / baseband image.
EG: My captivate gets about ~2mbps down / 1.5 up because I have a different radio image. I think it's the same thing we're looking at here.
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Totally understand this. But, the question is: is it possible with an update? That's the point.
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Totally understand this. But, the question is: is it possible with an update? That's the point.
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Yeah, an update to the radio that unlocks those bands, that's if one is released.
flak0 said:
Ill keep this short. There has been a lot of talk lately about tmo lying about the AT&T bands however I am here to prove that our phones are setup and enabled for AT&T . The option to enable is hidden. See below for proof.
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Off topic, but how are you getting Linpack 49Mflops on the G2x ? I'm getting around 35 each time I run it.
the software displays the base bands but the radio does not receive the frequencies.
End of line.
My T-Mobile Nexus displayed that info so did my G2 and Vibrant 4G but the Frequencies are different and the radio will not get them.
death1246 said:
the software displays the base bands but the radio does not receive the frequencies.
End of line.
My T-Mobile Nexus displayed that info so did my G2 and Vibrant 4G but the Frequencies are different and the radio will not get them.
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My LG Optimus One from Telus has an identical band selection menu which includes bands that the phone does not support. The screenshot proves nothing. Could a moderator just close this thread before anyone else gets their hopes up?
cmstlist said:
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My LG Optimus One from Telus has an identical band selection menu which includes bands that the phone does not support. The screenshot proves nothing. Could a moderator just close this thread before anyone else gets their hopes up?
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Question does it have anything to do with correct apn settings?
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flak0 said:
Question does it have anything to do with correct apn settings?
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No.
Its just the menu that I'd there.
If the hardware doesn't support it it won't work.
You don't play golf with a hokey stick even though it looks like you can.
i find it amazing that none of the major sites have talked about this despite heavily promoting about its quad 4g-ness in many reviews. It is very irrresponsible.
Looking through the LG-P999 (optimus 2x/ g2x) service manual, which you can find it yourself on the interwebz:
Page 7:
Supporting Standard
Supporting Standard WCDMA(FDD1,4)/EGSM/GSM850/DCS1800/PCS1900
with seamless handover
Phase 2+(include AMR)
SIM Toolkit : Class 1, 2, 3, C-E
Frequency Range WCDMA(FDD1) TX : 1920 – 1980 MHz
WCDMA(FDD1) RX : 2110 – 2170 MHz
WCDMA(FDD4) TX : 1710 – 1755 MHz
WCDMA(FDD4) RX : 2110 – 2155 MHz
EGSM TX: 880 – 915 MHz
EGSM RX: 925 – 960 MHz
GSM850 TX: 824 – 849 MHz
GSM850 RX: 869 – 894 MHz
DCS1800 TX : 1710 – 1785 MHz
DCS1800 RX : 1805 – 1880 MHz
PCS1900 TX: 1850 – 1910 MHz
PCS1900 RX: 1930 – 1990 MHz
On Page 21:
"The LG-P999 supports UMTS-2100, UMTS-1700, GSM-850, GSM-900, DCS-1800, and PCS-1900 based GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS."
on Page 23:
GSM mode
"The GSM-850/GSM-1800, receiver inputs of PMB5703 are connected directly to the transceiver front-end Module. The GSM-900/GSM-1900 receiver inputs are using the Rx path with WCDMA1900 and WCDMA900 bands. The GSM-850, GSM-900, GSM-1800, and GSM-1900 receiver inputs use differential configurations to improve common-mode rejection and second-order non-linearity performance."
Now the thread can be closed.
Vodafone has a HTC Sensation for sale and lists the 3G MHz has 850/1900/2100
I would like to purchase the HTC Sensation but want to know if this is a typo.
If I purchase this phone from vodafone do you think it will be possible to unlock it? I've been looking for a new phone with 3G that will work on ATT.
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phone/htc-sensation
its unlock already
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its unlock already
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Yep! They're SIM free.
I think their website is wrong. If you watch some of the unboxing videos for the Vodafone Sensation, the box lists AWS and not 1900. I have only the videos to go by though. Wait for the T–mobile US version to come out though. It may have the right frequencies for AT&T, or so I've heard.
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I think their website is wrong. If you watch some of the unboxing videos for the Vodafone Sensation, the box lists AWS and not 1900. I have only the videos to go by though. Wait for the T–mobile US version to come out though. It may have the right frequencies for AT&T, or so I've heard.
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Where have you heard the TMO US Sensation will have 850 3G?
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Where have you heard the TMO US Sensation will have 850 3G?
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I have a t-mobile (US) version, however it came in a generic box. Is there a way to tell what frequencies it supports?
Looking at the Gallery for an article at TmoNews, a picture of the box showed the frequencies available on the Sensation 4G.
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/t-mobile-branded-htc-sensation-4g-in-the-wild/
The box shows UMTS frequencies are 1700, 2100 and 1900. Isn't 1900 AT&T?
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AT&T uses 850 and 1900 3G. Unless the TMO US Sensation has 850 it won't fly 3G on AT&t.
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I have a t-mobile (US) version, however it came in a generic box. Is there a way to tell what frequencies it supports?
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There are some special codes you can dial to display service menus that include the frequencies in use. Don't know them for HTC. Some Googling might turn up the answer.
It was my understanding that you can use 850 or 1900 for 3G on AT&T but didn't necessarily have to have both. But this is just something I vaguely remember hearing somewhere and don't have any personal experience to back it up.
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It was my understanding that you can use 850 or 1900 for 3G on AT&T but didn't necessarily have to have both. But this is just something I vaguely remember hearing somewhere and don't have any personal experience to back it up.
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Yeah you don't need both. I used to rock a phone with only 1900, but you only get 3g in some areas and not others. And if I remember correctly att was/is actively moving all 3g onto the 850 band, so really I think the 850 band is more important of the two. Really did suck when everyone else had 3g and I was on edge because it was a 850 zone for 3g.
kaiserkannon said:
Yeah you don't need both. I used to rock a phone with only 1900, but you only get 3g in some areas and not others. And if I remember correctly att was/is actively moving all 3g onto the 850 band, so really I think the 850 band is more important of the two. Really did suck when everyone else had 3g and I was on edge because it was a 850 zone for 3g.
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That's my understanding as well, 850 and 1900 currently required on ATT to get 3G everywhere.
Walkamo said:
I have a t-mobile (US) version, however it came in a generic box. Is there a way to tell what frequencies it supports?
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How did you get at US version Sensation, if I may ask?
Paten said:
I think their website is wrong. If you watch some of the unboxing videos for the Vodafone Sensation, the box lists AWS and not 1900. I have only the videos to go by though. Wait for the T–mobile US version to come out though. It may have the right frequencies for AT&T, or so I've heard.
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What is AWS? I assume its not a code name for 850 lol
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What is AWS? I assume its not a code name for 850 lol
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AWS advanced wireless services 1700
If some one needs sensation with 850/2100 for 3G, will have to wait till sensation is released for canada ( Rogers/telus/bell) . however it does not look near
drgopoos said:
If some one needs sensation with 850/2100 for 3G, will have to wait till sensation is released for canada ( Rogers/telus/bell) . however it does not look near
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Never, ever, EVER look forward to a Canadian release. We get **** MONTHS after the UK and US if we're lucky!!!
When it comes to new phones, just keep the word "Canada" out of the discussion unless you're emo and look forward to disappointment lol. The thought of acquiring a Canadian version of the Sensation never even crossed my mind. All my phones have always been imported.
The only thing I use carrier upgrades for with my actual service here is so I can sell the phone which makes the most money so I can import a new one. The wireless industry in Canada is way behind even the poorest third world nations.
/rant
unfortuantely there is no other place that has 850 spectrum for 3g
drgopoos said:
unfortuantely there is no other place that has 850 spectrum for 3g
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Isn't the Vodafone UK version UTMS/HSPA 850/1900/2100?
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unfortuantely there is no other place that has 850 spectrum for 3g
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Not quite true if this listing is accurate:
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
But it certainly is limited.
hello
how i know if my sensation is 4g ?
i bought a sensation on ebay saing is 4g, but i dont see it any where on the phone.
thanks
All tmo branded sensations are 4g.
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All tmo branded sensations are 4g.
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whats tmo ?
mine is unbranded
vladnosferatu said:
whats tmo ?
mine is unbranded
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Tmo is T-Mobile USA
Yours is NOT a 4G because it did not come from T-Mobile is what he was telling you. Same speeds though..Just different marketing used in the name.
So to answer your question, No you do not have a 4G.
vladnosferatu said:
hello
how i know if my sensation is 4g ?
i bought a sensation on ebay saing is 4g, but i dont see it any where on the phone.
thanks
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wow no 4g, so thats why its unbranded no biggy if you dont have a 4g data plan
phonegod said:
wow no 4g, so thats why its unbranded no biggy if you dont have a 4g data plan
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If he has a unbranded one its the same as T-Mobile's 4g one. They both have the same 3g/4g bands. T-Mobile's "4G" is just hspa+ I have an unbranded one and it works exactly the same as T-Mobile's except I don't have the Tmobile bloat. So there is no difference between his and the T-Mobile one. I think most of the international versions of the Sensation all have the tmo us bands. I think they might have released one so far that doesn't have the same bands.
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If he has a unbranded one its the same as T-Mobile's 4g one. They both have the same 3g/4g bands. T-Mobile's "4G" is just hspa+ I have an unbranded one and it works exactly the same as T-Mobile's except I don't have the Tmobile bloat. So there is no difference between his and the T-Mobile one. I think most of the international versions of the Sensation all have the tmo us bands. I think they might have released one so far that doesn't have the same bands.
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Thanks !!!!!!!!
tmobile version is the only version that is 4g. if its unbranded it will not be 4g, only 3g which all carriers carry.
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tmobile version is the only version that is 4g. if its unbranded it will not be 4g, only 3g which all carriers carry.
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Sorry to say but you are wrong. I have an unbranded asian sensation and it has the SAME exact 3g/4g bands as the TMO USA version. And T-mobiles version of "4G" really isnt 4G at all. It's HSPA+ which is not true 4G. There is no difference between the 2. In fact it seems that all Sensations released world wide so far have the same bands as TMO. You can confirm this by going to any country's HTC site and looking at the specs of the Sensation
Look at my box from my unbranded sensation under network it says
"Network: HSPA/WCDMA (900/AWS(this is TMOs 3g/4g Band)/2100)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900)
And it wouldnt work on any other US carrier's 3G network unless they use the same bands as TMO which there arent any except the carriers like simple who use tmo's network. So if you try to take your sensation and use it on ATT you will only get 2G speeds because tmo's 3g/4g network is different bands than other carrier's 3g/4g in the us
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Sorry to say but you are wrong. I have an unbranded asian sensation and it has the SAME exact 3g/4g bands as the TMO USA version. And T-mobiles version of "4G" really isnt 4G at all. It's HSPA+ which is not true 4G. There is no difference between the 2. In fact it seems that all Sensations released world wide so far have the same bands as TMO. You can confirm this by going to any country's HTC site and looking at the specs of the Sensation
Look at my box from my unbranded sensation under network it says
"Network: HSPA/WCDMA (900/AWS(this is TMOs 3g/4g Band)/2100)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900)
And it wouldnt work on any other US carrier's 3G network unless they use the same bands as TMO which there arent any except the carriers like simple who use tmo's network. So if you try to take your sensation and use it on ATT you will only get 2G speeds because tmo's 3g/4g network is different bands than other carrier's 3g/4g in the us
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Ok I bought mine from uk, is it 4g.its locked to tmobile as well.I noticed usa version says tmobile on the front of the handset next to htc logo.however uk tmobile version don't say tmobile anywere except when u turn it on.
From what I've read, I believe the answer is "close but no cigar." Am I right? Or should we expect this device to work pretty well at grabbing onto HSDPA signals, but with a little higher battery drain, since the radio would have to work harder?
I have been considering pre-ordering an unlocked, black HTC One S (MAO model) from either Negri Electronics or Expansys, but I don't want to waste my time & money if this phone is, quite literally, a non-starter on the T-Mobile US network.
I'm a former CDMA subscriber and I've only been with TMo for 8-9 months. This would also be my first unlocked phone purchase, so thanks in advance for any insight you guys can offer.
I'm just going to wait and buy it from T-Mobile. Yeah I'll pay full retail but I'll sell my old phone to cover most of the cost; that's kind of how I do my upgrades! I just don't want to worry about it not working. I think it needs 1700 and 2100 bands for 3G/4G to work.
@unclespoon - I hear you, but I'm interested in the black model, which is "micro arc oxidized." I understand that TMoUS is only selling the gradient anodized model. We shall see.
Anyone else with an idea about the likely performance of that unlocked international model on TMo AWS?
Here's the answer to my question from Myriam Joire (@tnkgrl) of @Engadget, via Twitter:
"@malcontent510 the Euro version won't. The US version will. Both are tri-band, one without AWS."
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Here's the answer to my question from Myriam Joire (@tnkgrl) of @Engadget, via Twitter:
"@malcontent510 the Euro version won't. The US version will. Both are tri-band, one without AWS."
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I don't see any reason why the International version will not support AWS band. Both phones have the same qualcomm chip.
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I don't see any reason why the International version will not support AWS band. Both phones have the same qualcomm chip.
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it would be silly. The only difference should be the tmobile branding and bloatware. I thought the idea of only three models is to reduce the number of phones you have out there.
TWO different models of the One S: PJ40110 / PJ58100
I am hoping that there is no difference, but I was just quoting what Myriam from Engadget told me. I have since learned on Wikipedia that T-Mobile's HSDPA frequencies (namely "1700 MHz/2100 MHz UMTS AWS") are not specifically listed as covered by the antenna in the international version. The appropriate frequencies may, in fact still be covered, but according to both Negri Electronics and GSM Arena, the unlocked international version does not list them.
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100
I hope this is either not the case or not a show-stopper.
Edit: I now see a 3/12/2012 article from Engadget which indicates there are actually TWO distinctly different ONE S models:
HTC PJ40110
HTC PJ58100
WTF?
So if I buy a One S from the UK, will I only get edge? Or 3G? Thanks! Hoping to buy this phone in December when I'm due for an upgrade
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@invasion2 - that is what I've been asking and which seems to remain an open question. Other than Myriam's tweet (above), no one has attempted to directly answer that question.
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malcontent510 said:
@unclespoon - I hear you, but I'm interested in the black model, which is "micro arc oxidized." I understand that TMoUS is only selling the gradient anodized model. We shall see.
Anyone else with an idea about the likely performance of that unlocked international model on TMo AWS?
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Ok, sorry for going off topic a tad here but, can you (malcontent510 or anyone who knows of this) link your source for that info...for if it is true then I now have to go back to the drawing board for my idea on which phone I will be getting soon.
malcontent510 said:
@unclespoon - I hear you, but I'm interested in the black model, which is "micro arc oxidized." I understand that TMoUS is only selling the gradient anodized model. We shall see.
Anyone else with an idea about the likely performance of that unlocked international model on TMo AWS?
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Ok, sorry for going off topic a tad here but, can you (malcontent510 or anyone who knows of this) link your source for that info...for if it is true then I now have to go back to the drawing board for my idea on which phone I will be getting soon.
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@kaeruil - I based my assumption on the HTC website, here:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htcones-tmobile
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FWIW, I also refer you to the gradient anodized model which was featured in the leaked video of 3/27/2012 from a YouTube poster who said his unbranded [pre-release] phone was a T-Mobile model.
malcontent510 said:
@invasion2 - that is what I've been asking and which seems to remain an open question. Other than Myriam's tweet (above), no one has attempted to directly answer that question.
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Haha thanks. Don't know why no one is answering
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@malcontent510 - thanks, now that you pointed it out, don't know how I didn't notice that...guess I need some new glasses as well as a new cell
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I am hoping that there is no difference, but I was just quoting what Myriam from Engadget told me. I have since learned on Wikipedia that T-Mobile's HSDPA frequencies (namely "1700 MHz/2100 MHz UMTS AWS") are not specifically listed as covered by the antenna in the international version. The appropriate frequencies may, in fact still be covered, but according to both Negri Electronics and GSM Arena, the unlocked international version does not list them.
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100
I hope this is either not the case or not a show-stopper.
Edit: I now see a 3/12/2012 article from Engadget which indicates there are actually TWO distinctly different ONE S models:
HTC PJ40110
HTC PJ58100
WTF?
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The version the clove is selling does support them http://www.clove.co.uk/htc-one-s
TramainM said:
The version the clove is selling does support them http://www.clove.co.uk/htc-one-s
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No. Unfortunately, the international model (including the one mentioned above) sold by Clove does not cover the 1700MHz frequency -- the TMobile US AWS frequency. The end result being that this phone would not support HSPA on TMo.
OK sorry for being off topic, but I'm a bit confused. The One S will or will not support SD/SIM Cards? Because isn't the SD/SIM your phone number? That confuses me. And is there even a difference between SD and SIMs? Thanks! Again, sorry for the off topic. If you want me to I will create my own topic.
So. I may be leaving Sprint and my Evo 3D behind to go to T-mo. I was planning on grabbing an unlocked ONE S. I am not experienced with unlocked gsm phones coming from Sprint and all...
Expansys shows 850/900/1900/2100.
If I understand correctly, t mobile 3g is on the 1700 band. 4g is on the 1900 band. So we would get 4g (hspa+) but not any 3g...
I was planning on the gradient metal version. I don't want to get stuck with a ceramic blue version from T-MOBILE...
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invasion2 said:
OK sorry for being off topic, but I'm a bit confused. The One S will or will not support SD/SIM Cards? Because isn't the SD/SIM your phone number? That confuses me. And is there even a difference between SD and SIMs? Thanks! Again, sorry for the off topic. If you want me to I will create my own topic.
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SIM and SD is not the same thing at all. SD cards (in this case micro SD) are for storage.
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malcontent510 said:
No. Unfortunately, the international model (including the one mentioned above) sold by Clove does not cover the 1700MHz frequency -- the TMobile US AWS frequency. The end result being that this phone would not support HSPA on TMo.
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That's interesting considering the international model and US model carry the same Qualcomm chip. In theory both phones should support the same bands.
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Just got off phone with expansys, they confirmed that it is NOT compatible with T-MOBILE 3G.
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So I did the radio hack using radio comm to enable the radio on the Maxx HD (XT926) to work with USA GSM carriers, I installed CM for XT925 on my XT926, I even put in a non working T-Mobile Sim in the phone and the phone displays the T-Mobile name in the navigation drawer and on the lock screen. I'm gonna go to a T-Mobile store close by me in NY today, now for my question : is there anything I gotta do in settings or anywhere else on the phone before I take it to the T-Mobile to activate the Sim card. I'm planning on going for there unlimited 4g $70 plan, will there 4g work with the phone? Also what do I tell the sales rep when I get there? Thanks
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Ok so i was able to do the whole process online and i activated the simcard and i now my phone is connected but i'm only receiving edge not 4G, i tried changing the settings to lte but all i get is edge, what can i to fix this?
Afaik, TMO uses different LTE band (frequencies) than Verizon so you can get GSM (GPRS/EDGE) or UMTS (HSDPA) depending of the coverage. In NYC most of the time UMTS is available.
OK, I understand that and I'm fine with just using HSPDA+ but the thing is that I'm not even able to use that. Anything In settings I have to toggle for it to work.
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One, regular way is from settings, more, mobile networks, preferred networks, select GSM/UMTS (probably you did that already). Second what you can try is to tap on select network and select UMTS only. Last option is type *#*#4636#*#*, phone information and set preferred network. Be careful with this hidden menu!
I don't get an option to set to gsm/umts I only get these options:
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Oh and I'm running the latest weekly build of SlimKat.
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Which software version do you have?
Try to select, 3G. That's UMTS (HSDPA(+))
Zeljko1234 said:
Which software version do you have?
Try to select, 3G. That's UMTS (HSDPA(+))
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I'm running the latest weekly build of SlimKat (4.4.2)
....... :'(
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Try what I wrote you. One more option, instead of network operator auto selection, try to search and select manually. Sometimes phone shows two options for the same operator, one GSM and one UMTS.
Btw, I'm in NYC right now, using TMO and connected to H+.
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Zeljko1234 said:
Try what I wrote you. One more option, instead of network operator auto selection, try to search and select manually. Sometimes phone shows two options for the same operator, one GSM and one UMTS.
Btw, I'm in NYC right now, using TMO and connected to H+.
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The only two options I get is T-Mobile & AT&T. I'm thinking that it's probably just where I live I'm gonna leave my neighborhood in a few so I'm gonna see if I'll get H+ in another area. What rom are you using by the way?
Update: I now have H+, the problem is only in my particular area. So happy. Here I thought I spent 70 bucks to connect the phone for nothing.
Thanks for the help.
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Wouldn't be for nothing, you still have GPRS/EDGE
Because I'm "lucky" with locked bootloader, I'm using stock JB rooted, hardly debloated by myself and Apex launcher.
True but you can barely do anything with edge. Why is it that 3g doesn't work with the phone is it because of the frequency bands are different?
Damn locked bootloader sucks, but hopefully someone will find and release an exploit once Motorola finally releases the 4.4 update.
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True but you can barely do anything with edge.
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You're right about EDGE. Have you ever tried GPRS?
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Why is it that 3g doesn't work with the phone is it because of the frequency bands are different?
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Do you mean 4G (LTE)? If you're asking why you cannot connect to 3G in your area, then is probably coverage problem. 3G usually works on higher radio frequency than 2g, so propagation is worse.
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Damn locked bootloader sucks, but hopefully someone will find and release an exploit once Motorola finally releases the 4.4 update.
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I don't have hope for that. 4.4 update could even prevent root. But, maybe Motorola (Verizon) will offer bootloader unlocking option for EOL phones. When warranty will expired anyway. That would be really nice move and bring a lot of good advertising.
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True but you can barely do anything with edge. Why is it that 3g doesn't work with the phone is it because of the frequency bands are different?
Damn locked bootloader sucks, but hopefully someone will find and release an exploit once Motorola finally releases the 4.4 update.
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The frequencies are different. Razr HD only supports 850/900/1900/2100
For HSDPA on T-Mobile you also need the 2100 AND the 1700 band. This is their largest coverage band. If you go to a major metropolitan area with a refarmed 2100 band coverage then you will get H+ on T-Mobile Otherwise, you're stuck on edge.
Sorry man, it's pure hardware...